The last straw for me was learning about the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter. Christmas was my favorite holiday and I was lied to all my life about it. But what really got me was these people who love these holidays are the same ones to crap on paganism and new age practices. Hate yoga because of its origins but not your holidays with pagan origins? That didn’t stop me from seeking the Lord though. Then I started actually reading the whole Bible and then I realized this may not be as loving as I thought. I gaslighted myself about that God is still love. Lol and then I reread Job during the lowest points of my life and it made me angry. 😢
The people were my downfall. I too changed churches and denominations a few times. I went through a nasty divorce about 20 years ago and never went back to any church. I still believed, but the more I prayed, read my Bible and QUESTIONED EVERYTHING....it started making sense that the whole religious thing was a con filled with lies, pagan and plagerized stories adopted and repackaged. I saw the truth....and the truth set me free!
I really wish if God was real that God had given us a better BOOK! with the most simplest of basic instruction that no-one could possible misinterpret or get wrong! I mean would it have really been that hard! maybe he was exhausted after he made the universe and he decided to let his dumb ass kids write it instead lol
Nepotism and favoritism helped me realize the superficial pseudo characters that "run," the church. It's just a job, a source of income for preachers. They deceive the sheep unto believing we are all equal...
Our paths were similar. I left mainline church in 2012. I "became" Torah observant because I felt it to be more authentic and more--I dunno--visible or tangible of being set apart as one of my diffs with the church had been how it was the same as everybody else in the world. But since there wasn't any real congregation nearby, I relied on a group in PA and went to their feasts in the fall a couple of times. They were 100 miles away and I was caring for a terminally ill husband so I couldn't take that time every Shabbat. Being TO, the NT was pretty much a nix. The calendar thing was always a PIA. But then the real end came when I realized that god had commanded ritual male genital mutilation. I'm not young or male, but that just culminated the little "ouches along the way of the slavery, murder, all of that. I'd describe it as a cult of continuation. The traction and momentum seem unstoppable and there are too many people highly invested, at levels we commoners don't even understand, in its continuance. And then now today, much of the mainline has caved to those who understand that they have a very malleable voting bloc who will do what they are told and will throw money at whoever appears as a messiah.
Thanks for sharing…Don’t lose heart in Jesus. The Church has its problems….Apostle Paul fought with Peter in the past…why wouldn’t there be problems today. Shalom 😊
For me the last straw was looking at all the old testament prophecy's that were said to be fulfilled by jesus and seeing that all of them were not talking about jesus. Also the fact that we don't even know who wrote the gospel's and that they borrowed from greek and roman myths.
I walked away from "the church" in 2006. I had learned much of church history that I didn't want to be associated with it any longer. We had home fellowship for many years, but had enough of that in 2019 and began our deconstruction of Christianity altogether.
Same with JW, this group loves buildings too😂, my red flag was when they started to ask for donations of a New Video Studio😅I rather asked, why would a God need videos (internet)to let people believe about him nowadays. Why isn’t/wasn’t the book enough to let people believe and repent, if it’s the most trustworthy book.😅
I’m a believer in yeshua messiah 🙏 but I totally agree the word has been watered down sadly the church - body is falling away hold fast to what is true and toss the rest I have faith in what I can’t see but I truly believe in YHVH ♥️🙌
I looked up the etymology of the word church. I want absolutely nothing to do with that place. Anyway, I don't like being preached to. I'm part of a fellowship where we discuss together but no one singularly preaches to us. Before Christianity and I would say during Christianity the Roman church, the church was the place of human sacrifice. And I would argue it still is.
“And they will let go of the word of God and follow traditions of men”. “I came for the sick and the broken” 120+ denominations of one word of God is as broken as broken gets. They don’t understand the Bible as you or I do because they do not let scripture define itself, or hear it for what it is. They hear what they want to hear to fit there doctrine, what they need is a doctor. You! Christian truther
@@mikejones9030 But I _love_ flat earth Christianity! You guys are fantastic! Why have your numbers gone down a lot? We need to help reverse that trend. I want all of Christianity to proclaim the earth is *FLAT!* 😀👍
Maybe you were supposed to start your own ministry with your wife and come out from among her??? Jesus took me out of church in 2017 after my trip to Israel, and started me on a whole new journey!!! God taught me things that I couldn't get in church by His right hand!!! 🌈☝️✝️☝️🌈 sounds like Jesus has anointed your life so profoundly to go forth??!
Well even though our beliefs differ greatly, I can say I had some pretty similar experiences and have always sort of disliked American "Christianity" as a result. I did have much better experiences with Christians overseas in Asia because they were much less fake and so much less materialistic, but reformed baptists have been some of the worst and most narcissistic people I have met...they always talk about John Calvin and how they are so special because they are "elect", and how they are the only ones that know proper exegesis, etc.
If you’ve read your Bible, you know, Jesus said “the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church“. Your only problem is that you still cannot define the church.
The problem is that the Bible is just a book.... that's open to interpretation. There are all sorts of biblical interpretations and somehow or another, the all-powerful God who can do anything hasn't given any humans a better book to follow. That's the real problem and that's why the church is shrinking everyday.
Personally, I don't have a problem with churches as buildings. I have a problem with the Church as an institution. Molesters, Liars, Corrupt priests. Nope. Just Nope. 😢 Religions are man-made.
We don't care what somebody claimed decades later what a guy named Joshua said. "Jesus" the Anglicized name. You haven't given a credible reason we should care or listen to you. *QUESTION:* Does the 'Omnicient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent god', that _you want us to believe in…_ …KNOW who goes to heaven, and who goes to 'hell'… …BEFORE he "creates" each person? YES or NO? - I'll wait 🍿
@@maryjanegreen8687 : If there is a wise, loving, just, benevolent God, and he wanted to introduce himself to humanity, and leave us a parting message, he would have ensconced his name in the heavens, wrote his message across the skies, and placed the truth in the hearts and minds of all people everywhere. Anything short of this is priest-craft and religious works of fiction.
I have been checking this guy out lately. He seems like a really nice guy, but it seems that he has some mental problems that he tried to "self medicate" with religion and going all out with it. Then he decided that it was all a farce and now seems to have gone the opposite way and is "self medicating" again with being against religion and using RUclips as part of his medications. He has other problems that he needs to learn to deal with in order to go on with life in a somewhat normal way.
The last straw for me was learning about the pagan origins of Christmas and Easter. Christmas was my favorite holiday and I was lied to all my life about it. But what really got me was these people who love these holidays are the same ones to crap on paganism and new age practices. Hate yoga because of its origins but not your holidays with pagan origins? That didn’t stop me from seeking the Lord though. Then I started actually reading the whole Bible and then I realized this may not be as loving as I thought. I gaslighted myself about that God is still love. Lol and then I reread Job during the lowest points of my life and it made me angry. 😢
The people were my downfall.
I too changed churches and denominations a few times.
I went through a nasty divorce about 20 years ago and never went back to any church. I still believed, but the more I prayed, read my Bible and QUESTIONED EVERYTHING....it started making sense that the whole religious thing was a con filled with lies, pagan and plagerized stories adopted and repackaged.
I saw the truth....and the truth set me free!
Emphasis on pagan!!
I really wish if God was real that God had given us a better BOOK! with the most simplest of basic instruction that no-one could possible misinterpret or get wrong! I mean would it have really been that hard! maybe he was exhausted after he made the universe and he decided to let his dumb ass kids write it instead lol
😂💀😭
Exactly! Also why needed to waste so much time with ridiculous stories especially in OT to let he or his son come to earth!?
Nepotism and favoritism helped me realize the superficial pseudo characters that "run," the church. It's just a job, a source of income for preachers. They deceive the sheep unto believing we are all equal...
Our paths were similar. I left mainline church in 2012. I "became" Torah observant because I felt it to be more authentic and more--I dunno--visible or tangible of being set apart as one of my diffs with the church had been how it was the same as everybody else in the world. But since there wasn't any real congregation nearby, I relied on a group in PA and went to their feasts in the fall a couple of times. They were 100 miles away and I was caring for a terminally ill husband so I couldn't take that time every Shabbat. Being TO, the NT was pretty much a nix. The calendar thing was always a PIA. But then the real end came when I realized that god had commanded ritual male genital mutilation. I'm not young or male, but that just culminated the little "ouches along the way of the slavery, murder, all of that. I'd describe it as a cult of continuation. The traction and momentum seem unstoppable and there are too many people highly invested, at levels we commoners don't even understand, in its continuance. And then now today, much of the mainline has caved to those who understand that they have a very malleable voting bloc who will do what they are told and will throw money at whoever appears as a messiah.
Thanks for sharing…Don’t lose heart in Jesus. The Church has its problems….Apostle Paul fought with Peter in the past…why wouldn’t there be problems today.
Shalom 😊
For me the last straw was looking at all the old testament prophecy's that were said to be fulfilled by jesus and seeing that all of them were not talking about jesus. Also the fact that we don't even know who wrote the gospel's and that they borrowed from greek and roman myths.
Oh my god my wife and i did the exact same thing church jumping including torah churches lol what a trip
I walked away from "the church" in 2006. I had learned much of church history that I didn't want to be associated with it any longer. We had home fellowship for many years, but had enough of that in 2019 and began our deconstruction of Christianity altogether.
Same with JW, this group loves buildings too😂, my red flag was when they started to ask for donations of a New Video Studio😅I rather asked, why would a God need videos (internet)to let people believe about him nowadays. Why isn’t/wasn’t the book enough to let people believe and repent, if it’s the most trustworthy book.😅
Well said.
I’m a believer in yeshua messiah 🙏 but I totally agree the word has been watered down sadly the church - body is falling away hold fast to what is true and toss the rest I have faith in what I can’t see but I truly believe in YHVH ♥️🙌
you fell for Gnosticism.
I wish this video was longer ...
My final straw came when I read the old testament for myself and decided I really didn't like that god at all.
All the men women and children that were killed…. Were they humans or defiled hybrids created to taint the DNA for the coming Messiah?
I looked up the etymology of the word church. I want absolutely nothing to do with that place. Anyway, I don't like being preached to. I'm part of a fellowship where we discuss together but no one singularly preaches to us. Before Christianity and I would say during Christianity the Roman church, the church was the place of human sacrifice. And I would argue it still is.
“And they will let go of the word of God and follow traditions of men”. “I came for the sick and the broken” 120+ denominations of one word of God is as broken as broken gets. They don’t understand the Bible as you or I do because they do not let scripture define itself, or hear it for what it is. They hear what they want to hear to fit there doctrine, what they need is a doctor. You! Christian truther
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water
What we all want to know more than anything else is whether it is a flat earth or a ball earth. According to your present understanding.
Flat Earth Christianity contributes to the mockabke kookines and lack of trustworthiness of Christianity. I love flat earth Christianity!
So you're in the ball earth cult.
@@mikejones9030 But I _love_ flat earth Christianity! You guys are fantastic! Why have your numbers gone down a lot? We need to help reverse that trend. I want all of Christianity to proclaim the earth is *FLAT!* 😀👍
what must happen for a person to be on their way to heaven?
Maybe you were supposed to start your own ministry with your wife and come out from among her??? Jesus took me out of church in 2017 after my trip to Israel, and started me on a whole new journey!!! God taught me things that I couldn't get in church by His right hand!!! 🌈☝️✝️☝️🌈 sounds like Jesus has anointed your life so profoundly to go forth??!
Well even though our beliefs differ greatly, I can say I had some pretty similar experiences and have always sort of disliked American "Christianity" as a result. I did have much better experiences with Christians overseas in Asia because they were much less fake and so much less materialistic, but reformed baptists have been some of the worst and most narcissistic people I have met...they always talk about John Calvin and how they are so special because they are "elect", and how they are the only ones that know proper exegesis, etc.
If you’ve read your Bible, you know, Jesus said “the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church“. Your only problem is that you still cannot define the church.
The problem is that the Bible is just a book.... that's open to interpretation. There are all sorts of biblical interpretations and somehow or another, the all-powerful God who can do anything hasn't given any humans a better book to follow. That's the real problem and that's why the church is shrinking everyday.
Personally, I don't have a problem with churches as buildings.
I have a problem with the Church as an institution. Molesters, Liars, Corrupt priests. Nope. Just Nope. 😢
Religions are man-made.
@@maryjanegreen8687yes, we're forming quite an Exodus!! 🎉🎉
We don't care what somebody claimed decades later what a guy named Joshua said. "Jesus" the Anglicized name. You haven't given a credible reason we should care or listen to you.
*QUESTION:* Does the 'Omnicient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent god', that _you want us to believe in…_
…KNOW who goes to heaven, and who goes to 'hell'…
…BEFORE he "creates" each person?
YES or NO?
- I'll wait 🍿
@@maryjanegreen8687 : If there is a wise, loving, just, benevolent God, and he wanted to introduce himself to humanity, and leave us a parting message, he would have ensconced his name in the heavens, wrote his message across the skies, and placed the truth in the hearts and minds of all people everywhere. Anything short of this is priest-craft and religious works of fiction.
I have been checking this guy out lately. He seems like a really nice guy, but it seems that he has some mental problems that he tried to "self medicate" with religion and going all out with it. Then he decided that it was all a farce and now seems to have gone the opposite way and is "self medicating" again with being against religion and using RUclips as part of his medications. He has other problems that he needs to learn to deal with in order to go on with life in a somewhat normal way.