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Are you just talking about Texan men? I live in New Jersey which as part of the tri-state area is more cosmopolitan and the men here aren’t that way. After living in the US for over 20 years I’ve found you can’t lump all Americans in as one, because it very much varies depending on the state they live in, almost as if each state is a separate country in a way.
Joel, you don’t have to give up your British citizenship, because Britain allows dual citizenship. American born citizens aren’t allowed dual citizenship, but if their parents are originally born in another country which allows dual citizenship they can apply for it. I know lots of Brits with dual citizenship. I also know lots of other people with dual citizenship here in the US. It’s all very confusing which is why I remain as a resident and keep my British passport as just like you I’d feel like a traitor to my Queen and country. 😆😍🇬🇧🏴
I'm a Southern American man. Generally speaking, we're taught to be very respectful and protective of women but not because they're fragile or incapable, but rather because they make the world go around with their generally selfless behavior and it's just out of respect and care. For me, it's not a feeling of women being inferior but out of gratitude and respect.
Nailed it ! My husband opens the car doors for me and my daughters and our son was taught to do the same ..also opening doors for elderly,, I’m glad we have this kind of respect for each other ❤
Right , you are trying to stop the door from slamming in their face. The only country I won’t hold a door as I am going thru is Germany because they act absolutely snotty about it.
@@TheMadeofhonor Me too. I'm an American woman from the south. My parents taught me to be polite to everyone. This includes holding the door for the person behind you. I've had people literally let go of the door right in front of my face and to me it's incredibly rude and thoughtless. I just wasn't raised that way. I'd get a spanking if I was rude to people, lol.
@@sarahmoran2636 Right. I've opened the door for men, ladies (especially up in age) and some children. I've taught my 6 boys to always open the door for a lady unless she says no. Respect is free to give.
American here, Californian to be exact. Men and women hold the door open for each other and members of the same sex. It's not just a gender role thing in the US. In a way it's sort of like apologizing for cutting someone off and getting to the door first. "After you!" and all is forgiven.
I will offer my seat to anyone that looks like they need it more than me (old people, someone with children, someone with packages, etc.). And I'll hold the door open for literally anyone (men, women, children, young, old lol)
Lol. I appreciate if a man ASKS if I need help. I can 100% take care of myself, but I think it’s nice if a man asks….except when they expect something. If it’s to be polite or kind….yes! You can help me.
I was raised to hold the door open for anyone who is entering after me no matter their gender…..It is just a sign of respect. We don’t think of you as incapable. As an American woman, it doesn’t even enter my mind that someone thinks me incapable because they hold the door for me or offer me their seat. That is so foreign to me lol
I'm British and a very rude woman once shouted at me for holding a door open for her. She said 'I don't need a man to hold a door open for me'. But I would (and do) hold a door open for anyone, man or woman. I'm very sorry being polite and for having good manners😂
dude, you robbed that statement from atleast 3 others on this subject. And it can get silly for the door being opened by anyone if they're off on timing. Too long, you've made a spectacle us which is embarrassing. And if youre making dead eye contact with it, well thats just creepy.
American guys holding a door, carrying a bag, offering your seat, and other things like that for women is not saying that they are incapable. We do it because women are special enough that they shouldn't have to do those things. It's a sign of respect. Putting the effort in for a woman because she's special enough that she shouldn't have to.
Us American men just grow up being very competitive in school, sports and life. Yes we have a feminine side but it us very subdued. British men from the ones I have met are very proper, kind and courteous but do nit have that hyper competitiveness. Us American men are more obnoxious but will help a person in need in a crisis. These are generalizations but they do fit. It all stems from childhood to be the best you can be in all things.
@@Joe-yz7qx they have that everywhere in the US because of father's that take their kids little league games too seriously. Even when I was a kid in the 90s I remember watching father's get kicked out of my leagues softball games 😂
I'd say Irish men have a huge masculinity side they try to live up to too. British men do come off [stereotypical & from observation] as whimper & delicate. I know they're still strong & can be manly.. this is just the perspective one outside of the UK sees & witnesses with our own eyes.
I prefer a “manly” man. It’s probably why I usually find Scots more attractive than English men. Or American men more attractive than English men. I want to be protected, I want the seat on the train, I want the door opened, etc. I can be strong in other ways.
5:59 I think the male masseuse asking the "husband" for permission was more about not offending the husband by crossing a boundary rather than asking because the woman is perceived to be incapable of making a decision. Some men could take exception to another man touching his wife in certain ways. If that were the case than I would suggest not going for a massage at all personally, but I believe he was trying to show respect to the "husband". Especially if he detected you were from a different country and may have different standards regarding things like this.
I think the masseuse thought the husband would know what the wife prefers, and I agree he might defer to the man to avoid any suspicion of being too familiar to the wife, since her husband is with her and can arrange everything for them both.
I’m very capable but I like being treated like a lady. I don’t want to do heavy lifting. I love doors opened for me. Old fashioned manners are the best!
Thank you so much. As an American man I thought this video was very thoughtful. I'd add that there are regional traits and differences between the cities and the countryside. I'd say masculinity in the cities is more like what Joel mentioned about norms in London. And I will agree that American boys are raised to be confident, independent, and generous. Attitudes toward women I think depend on your relationship with your mother. If your mother is more feminist then I think you grow to be a man with more progressive attitudes toward women. Also, many of us were raised by single mothers so that gives you experience of having a strong woman in your life which I think also influences your attitudes. Great vid.!
Yeah, there was a study on who thinks they can defeat a wild animal. Like squirrel, tiger, bear, etc. While there was a gender gap, UK males still lost to USA women.
Raised by a single mother and I agree 100%. Independence was so ingrained into my ethos that for many years I would not ask for help even to my detriment. Learned and somewhat unlearned that lesson well.
The English men I've talked to say that British men are not as willing to go to therapy. In the States more men have been open to therapy over the past 20 years. I find this particularly interesting.
Agreed, but I think even with US men in therapy they still are able to create/bring a much more masculine approach to daily life. Only now they're able to do it with a stronger open/caring/understanding thought process.
@@joshrees3413 I feel like you now have a touch of knowledge on therapy now & from there you can help the UK grow. You don't have to go to therapy yourself, but you could help spread the word if it ever came up in any future discussion that hey.. maybe therapy isn't a bad idea & if anyone you ever know laughs at the idea or thinks down on it educate them on what you've seen about it. Btw... does the UK military not push therapy for the troops? Here in America that's a TOP place where therapy is used. For everyone in the military and PTSD. Mental health is a huge topic of discussion in America & American Government as we fight for federal & state funding yearly for it.
Really? I'd think going to therapy would fall under the category of 'men talking about their feelings', which would be a rare occurrence. To me I would have a hard time believing that therapy couches in Idaho are filling up faster than Southern California. Although I am willing to be wrong.
@@fakereality96 well that's probably just one of the reasons Idaho & it's male citizens are looked at as the crazy state 😜 (different type of crazy from Florida).
I think American men adapt to their situations. I had a job where I only worked with women and I ended up being more sensitive, soft of speech, kinder perhaps, and gentle. I found myself asking for recipes and fashion tips! Never talked about sports or cars or lawncare once! Back with a mostly macho, male environment and I returned to my former ways. If you want to get along...males adapt and change their approach and speech.
You sound lovely. However, from my experience (as an American woman,) I believe American women (as for most women) do significantly more adapting than do men, generally speaking. Many women feel obligated to talk about sports just to fit in, even in gender-balanced workplaces. I can see that being the lone man or strongly outnumbered would have a higher probability of causing a man to adapt...but I don’t think the same would be the case in a 60 w/40 m environment 🤷♀️
I don't understand why insecure ppl have to ruin kindness for others. If a man offers a seat & u don't need it just freakin say No Thank You. It's really not that difficult. Ppl need to Stop saying the quiet parts out loud! If u think he thinks ur weak, just say no ty, turn away and roll ur eyes. But now ppl who Could use a seat won't be offered one because someone had to be bristly when no offense was ever meant. Sheesh! 🙄
Showing my age but when I grew up you unlocked and opened the car door for the woman you were dating, but expected for her to reach across and unlock the driver's side door. It was a way of both sides showing courtesy to each other. With automatic door locks, I think people have forgotten about the second half of this gesture.
I am married to an Englishman, I’m an American and I have struggled at times with how much more feminine he seems than the men I grew up with. I like men who are rugged, strong, will fight for what’s right and protect the vulnerable. I realized it was cultural and not that he would leave me for a man or something lol. I love my husband, he’s such a good man and I wouldn’t trade him! However, yes… I almost said “no” when he asked me to marry him because I wasn’t sure if I could get used to his mannerisms lol. He obviously, is not overly feminine otherwise I would not have had any attraction at all. I grew up with two older brothers, lots of guy friends, and I LOVE their masculinity! I really appreciate how different they are from me. My brothers were my protectors ( they also taught me how to fight) and of course my dad, male cousins and male friends. I honestly think too many American men are unfortunately closer to a “6” these days. What is “toxic “ about masculinity though? Sounds very judgmental. Just like saying “toxic femininity” to women. Who is deciding this? Lol. Men giving up their seat is a sign of respect, just as holding the door open. When we get mad about such things, you have to realize, we don’t have any real problems lol. Where I’m from, men will also hold open a door for a man that might be right behind him, likewise a woman for a man. Men just don’t really expect it here. Also, men are supposed to be respectful, polite but also masculine in our upbringing, which is so so so attractive to me. Anyway, not upset here, just sharing my thoughts on it. Much love. Please excuse typos! Multi tasking! Lol
My wife and I absolutely love England and I find it hard overcoming my American upbring when there. The hardest is when talking to an Englishman I reach out to shake their hand and they do not want that. Or when passing English people in general I was taught to look everyone in the eye and say hi, lol they do not.
As someone who absolutely loves strong dominant manly men, I feel compelled to say: masculinity is not inherently toxic but there ARE some general gender traits in the US that are absolutely toxic and damaging for both men and women. Toxic masculinity exists and toxic femininity also exists. Two examples: mansplaining and pick-me girls.
I think it's a generational thing. I think it's much rarer for a man who grew up during the Great Depression or before to be seen crying than it is for more recent generations.
I totally agree with the "girl boss" thing. I just said to myself the other day when I saw someone hashtag girlboss "ugh! Just be a BOSS! Why must I be a girl boss.. I'm just a boss!"
This is so funny considering that one of my favorite quotes about being a married man that I've ever heard came from Denis Thatcher, husband of The Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher. Someone once asked him if he wore the pants in the family, and he replied, "I most certainly do. I also wash and iron them." You don't have to be British or married to Margaret Thatcher to know what he meant. LOL
Toxic masculinity is definitely a big problem here in the U.S.. If I notice someone right behind me, I'll hold the door open for them without thinking if they're young, old, male, female, whatever. It's just good manners.
Ive literally held the door for other men and ive had men stop at the door and say "go" and im like "im holding the door" and they say something like "go, i got it" like wtf man. Just fucking walk in the damn building ajd go about your day
A Texan woman married to a Texan man for 24 years. I was raised in a home with a sister, a mom ,and a dad. Very strong female power vibes given to my sister and me from both my parents. My household is very traditional, and I love it. I love never being given a check, never mowing yards, fixing or painting anything. My very traditional husband has handled every unpleasant issue that has intruded into our household. I do every traditional female role in our house that involved raising 3 boys. Society might object that I love our arrangement, but I dictated I will never do any chores outside, vehicle, sewer, roof, garage, or hunting related. Right now, my husband is serving me my favorite cocktail.
To me that is female power. You had the option to decide what you would and wouldn't do. If you chose the traditional role then it's fine because you weren't bullied into it. I think most of us just want the freedom to choose which role we prefer and not made to do one or the other.
As a man, I don’t mind helping women, but I want them to also help me - if I’m struggling to carry groceries, please help. Chivalry can be both ways. I just despise when it is EXPECTED of me to help just because I’m a man.
Little bit has to do with regional attitudes. And how the person was raised. As a woman who would be considered a tomboy when young. I can change my own oil in my pickup but don't mind if a man would offer. It boils down how secure are you in your feminity/masculinity and how gracious a person you are. Though I am uncomfortable if a man cries more than me.
Grace being missing from many discussions about society gender rolls lately. What are we as a people turning into? Likewise a man should be gracious enough to accept help from a woman/lady from time to time.
There are lots of male vegetarians in the U S. they are just soft spoken people who live quietly instead of being loud and flamboyant. The unfortunate truth is that the obnoxious loudmouths in America are so easy to notice and the other, quieter people get overlooked.
Vegan American here. They really missed the boat with this video. This was, by far, Joel and Leah’s worst, most ridiculous video I’ve ever seen. This must be a joke.
American man here American men are viewed as more masculine because of the very competitive nature that we are brought up in! I drink whiskey and sometimes wine. I don’t always have to be the center of attention, I’m glad to give the spotlight to other people! I don’t want to pay all the time; feminist rejoice!
@@Simbecile Not always.. It shouldn't be.. Some mothers don't deserve respect*.. Some mothers weren't moms.. *i mean.. I think everyone deserves respect as a human being but not everyone deserves RESPECT..
@@Simbecile Lol.. I wasn't talking about my mother.. I was talking in general.. Some mothers are toxic and abusive.. Obviously if he is being disrespectful openly over something stupid/small then yeah.. But I was talking about people who have had it bad.. They exist.. And i said what I said.. It shouldn't always be a red flag until you know the reason.. As the saying goes.. "Respect is not given.. It's earned.." And that goes for parents too.. They aren't exempt from that just because they conceived you..
This is one of my favourite discussions I’ve watched you two have. I enjoy the fact that I don’t always agree with your views because it continues to keep my mind open. But the moments when I completely agree with you (as an American 43 year old whole lived in multiple counties was well as having had a drivers license in 5 states…I’ve moved a lot) bring me such joy. This is a great video!
You are so right about the man automatically being addressed in the US and the woman being ignored. It makes me absolutely crazy! If I ask a question, I expect the answer to be directed at me, not the man. It's rude.
See, I've never actually experienced that, and I've lived in 5 different states. most places I go in, they'll tend to address whoever comes in first, which makes total sense to me, so if my husband steps in ahead of me, he will be addressed first, or more typically, they will address us together, ie "How are you guys today?" If I ask a question, the person will address the answer to me. Maybe there are differences in different parts of the country, my experience has been mostly in the Midwest and South.
This happened to me just the other day. My brother and I went to the bank and I was talking trying to problem-solve with the bank manager, and every time he answered he would look directly at my brother. Oy vey!
I was taught that the person that does the inviting pays. Ask me to the movie, dinner or whatever you pay. I do the invite I pay. Or if you want to just get together for a while then say Dutch treat. So they know they pay their way.
My mom owned her own business and it annoyed/amused her that salespeople would come in and address whatever man was in the room-and not her. “Why do they always talk to the man?”
I love it when a man opens the door for me (I do for anyone)or helps me with something heavy. In the immortal words of Blanche Deveraux, “I don’t want to be treated like an equal, I want to be treated much better than you!” 😂
There are many multiple layers of American masculinity not only within the Country itself but also within the Regions and sub-regions of America. The American cultural South is as masculine as you can get within all of Western society as a broad Region and Southern Country Boys often refer to your average American Northern man or boy as little pansies. Southern Appalachia( West Virginia, Southwest Virginia. and far eastern Kentuckey and Tennesse) attempts to out do the rest of the Cultural South in Masculinity but just end up perverting the idea into hyper-aggression. I come from a German family and learned both English and German at the same time. Within the South as a whole I now naturally act, walk, and talk(When Speaking English) just like any other Southern American Man but I was thought of as a wimp in Appalachia because: I wouldn't continue to beat someone after knocking them unconscious in a fist fight, start a physical altercation over a passing verbal insult, defend the honor of a girl I went out on first date with by using violence(I would only curse the poor sap), never physically assaulted anyone at random out of boredom or prejudice, never did a date rape or an armed robbery to take what I wanted. I'm so thankful that I left the Appalachian hell hole that I was in!! Watch The Dancing Outlaw or The Wonderful Wild Whites of West Virginia if You All think that I am exaggerating the details. P.S. Americans, Germans, and Russians are also very blunt and direct compared to British People. My Russian wife almost got herself kicked out of some British restaurants in Essex for her "rude way of speaking" in the form of very direct English commands.
It is hard to know when someone is being generous instead of being condescending. I do enjoy as a woman when someone is kind enough to offer some help. However, I don't like it if the tone of voice implies that he needs to help me because I look totally weak and powerless. I can do things by myself if I have to.
I agree.. As a guy that grew up with basically nothing but a bunch of girls I have a greater respect and love for them and so i want to show that towards them but at the same time I don't want to come off as if I think they're less than.. That's the last thing I want.. But it is hard finding a balance that both sides are comfortable with..
but why should I struggle to do something that a guy could do for me way easier. Like yea I could eventually get a pickle jar open after banging on the lid with a knife, running it under hot water, trying to open with a towel etc but why go through all that when the guy can just open it easily in 2 seconds. There are just some things that guys are better at. Physical strength is one of them and I’m ok with admitting that and allowing a man to use his strength to help me instead of struggling to do it myself
@@princesskkay221 For me, the deciding factor is tone of voice. Does he offer to help in a nasty, offended voice or in a pleasant, calm voice? Does he treat me like a friend or an annoying burden? I'm not asking the nasty guy unless I am truly and completely desperate for help.
Yes. I once went on a date with a guy who essentially treated me like a sugar baby. He had this idea in his head that he was rich, successful and worldly, and I as the woman, was poor, desperate for money, naive and uneducated. He took me to Chili's (which was fine), but he treated it as if I were in one of those rags to riches Cinderella movies - as if I simply couldn't understand how to navigate a Chili's. Of course I thanked him for dinner, but he later got mad that I wasn't appreciative enough. He literally commented on how he gave me a once-in-a-lifetime experience and that I should be grateful to him for exposing me to a new way of life. At Chili's! I even tried explaining to him that I had been to Chili's probably 100 times, but of course he didn't listen. The funniest part of all of this was that I earned 3 times as much as he did. He just assumed I made less than him, and since I don't find it polite to mention my salary on a first date, I never corrected his assumption.
@@ekaski1 Wow.. Lol what.. Sometimes being a guy is embarrassing.. I just don't understand some of them/us.. lol I hope you didn't give him a second date.. If I had the money I would spoil/go all out cause that's just the person I am.. I would hope I'd never act like a douche with it (especially with a chili's 😂).. Sadly many guys have a god complex and think they're superior to not just women but everyone.. Alot of times that's just the way they were raised.. One time I asked a woman why her husband thinks and acts like men & father's are superior and she said "Cause they are.. The bible says they are.." and bout spit my drink across the room.. I was thinking "Wow.. So now I know why she lets her husband walk all over her and why one of her son's is a complete egotistical douche" smh
Things would be a lot better if how they did things in Texas was paid more attention to. Electricity is far less expensive in Texas than California which is why businesses are moving from California to Texas.
There is an American stereotype of men being overly masculine- and I think it is an accepted stereotype. My husband, however, is a sensitive, softie- and I love it! I think the red meat thing was because you were in Texas- there are many men who eat healthier- chicken, fish, more vegetarian.
As a woman, I have always been the main bread winner. My first husband, from Brazil, had no problem with it. My second husband, from Russia, struggled with it constantly and was always finding ways to demoralize me and dominate me in compensation.
I definitely lucked out with my husband. While he is a masculine American man, he also gets pedicures and such with me, watches garbage tv with me, doesn’t shy away from a girly cocktail, talks about his feelings…all while treating me like a Queen.
I was born in Middlesex England. My mother was British my Dad an American Air Force Serviceman. I was born on the Air Force Base. I have dual citizenship. I have an American and a British Passport. And both countries recognize my dual citizenship. I never had to chose.
My wife was from Canada. When she got her US citizenship in New Orleans they made her surrender her Canadian citizenship. She found out later that she only had to go back to Canada and they would reinstate her Canadian citizenship.
I think it's dumb to be insulted when someone offers help, regardless of gender. I've seen old men get really defensive when someone offered them their seat on the bus.
That’s so true that not all disabilities are visible. I am visually impaired and most people can’t tell I’m disabled. I don’t use any mobility aids or dark glasses, so there is no indication of my vision loss. I can pass as a abled person. Although if people watch me for long enough, they’ll see me holding someone’s shoulder, elbow or hand LOL.
I searched on “America bashing brits” and you two were at the top of the list. From what I’ve seen of you so far, you have definitely earned that spot. If you hate Americans so much, why do you constantly talk about us?
@@kellbing I don't know any men who don't eat meat. Everyone I know loves a good steak. My father would of mocked men who didn't eat beef and drink beer.
@@TheMelindaZombie Exactly! I'm in the Pennsylvania mountains, everyone loves a good steak, meat loaf, pot roast, all of it and Yes with potatoes. We all love it.
Funny story: I was raised in the South and now live on the west coast. I miss the chivalry of Southern men so much. I was in Atlanta visiting a friend and hadn't been in the south for over 10 years. I was walking in the parking lot toward a gym and this guy, who was further away from the door than I was, suddenly SPRINTED toward the door at top speed. I thought, "damn, this guy really wants to work out today and beat me to his favorite treadmill???" Turns out his sprint was so that I wouldn't have to touch the door handle to open it. He did it for me AND stood there until I arrived at the threshold. I nearly burst into tears, honestly. He was even older than I was, AND called me ma'am. My husband was raised mostly on the west coast of U.S. and doesn't hold doors open for me, which is ok. But without ever thinking about it, he's the one who takes our bikes off the bike rack on the car, and puts the bike rack in the garage. He's the one who always carries in the groceries even when I stand next to him waiting to carry a bag to the house. He's the one who will carry heavy things for me without asking. On the flip side: He's the one who also does all kitchen chores (cooking, dishes, food shopping/planning)---just because he enjoys those tasks of the household. I'm like you Lia, I like being treated like a "lady", but also know that I can do a traditional man's job just as well as he can. I also have been the breadwinner in my 18-yr marriage and make double what my husband earns. He has no problem with it. I do. I'd at least like him to earn the equivalent, but he's not as driven in his career as I am. I've come to accept that. Cheers, you two!
@@Rachel-rs7jn, based on passed comments Joel and Lia made, I think they will like Boston. It's very European in feel and it has a lot of culture which Joel has said he likes about Europe.
@@ProsperityClubEducation When you say that Boston seems very "European", are you referring to the strong Irish and Italian influence? Greetings from Sydney, Australia...
@@rebeccasimantov5476, no it was colonized by the English and they built the city by the English standards. Oldest historical buildings are found in the east coast especially Boston where the majority of American history began. Narrow windy streets. Walkable city. Actually I was a tour guide in Boston. I was known as Ms Beantown. Drive a huge green and orange bus while entertaining the tourists.
I can relate to your massage story. Men in America get more attention and respect than women EVERYWHERE like stores, professional offices etc. sad but true.
Try a different lens. Could the masseuse been asking him as a respect thing, as not to be touching his wife’s feet if it could be deemed offensive to either of them? Men talking to other men is sometimes simply so they don’t appear to be hitting on that persons loved one...has nothing to do with lacking respect for her or thinking she’s not capable of making her own decisions. I’m sure if you look again you will see most women talk to the female person in the couple more often than the man.
Idk about that... women get A LOT of attention in America. I'd say the only place I still have issues is crowded ass bars. I will say that's still a fucked up place that no matter where or who the bartender is.. male or female.. men get get waited on instantly over & over & women get cut in front of & ignore.
American man here. Preface, I have spent about two years in total in Europe..1 year at least in the UK. The idea of "Manhood" in America IS funny. By hook and crook our troublesome history aside, America is a country built by elbow grease and wild democracy! It's homespun and I think that has a lot to do with masculinity especially in the frontier states moving west! Masculinity is also a part or every assimilating culture in America from Black to White, Asian to Indigenous. I think It all really ties back to the Idea that no matter The Circumstances if you come to these shores you have to carve out a better country no matter the hardship or current iniquities. I know the video was about men but American women no matter their ethnicity are some of the hardest ball busting women on the planet! They are just as bootstrap and ingenious as any man, our current societal progression is a testament to that. I feel British people have a harder time grokking the American experience in a way Irish, Scottish and Australians may not. But that I a whole other conversation.
There's nothing "funny" about your analysis. It's exactly right. Men were taught to protect women and children. My parents told me that before the 1950's, if a man used swear words in front of a woman or child, the other men present would beat him up. You just didn't behave that way in public, and if you did, men would enforce proper behavior upon you--with their fists. As feminism became a thing in the 1960's and 1970's, men started saying to themselves, if women are going to act like men, then we'll start treating them like men. That's when men stopped holding doors for women and giving up their seats for women.
When I was a kid (1970s in US) I was often told as a guy, I need to open doors for females so as to treat them like a lady and ladies first. I don't hear that anymore, but yeah, when I was a kid that was a big thing adults would tell you to do.
It sounds like you're about a decade younger that me. I was told the same thing as you, and I saw it happen a lot when I was younger. That kind of behavior disappeared in the mid-1970's where I live. I suppose its disappearance wasn't uniform across America. I think a lot of what is discussed in this video may be less about differences betweek the UK and the USA, and more about differences between older and younger generations.
Hmm I'm 33 and I open doors for children, women, and elderly. I don't even think about it I just do it. I have had some rude looks for doing it as well but most of them smile
I’d say the opposite, in the UK I’ve noticed going to therapy and talking about your feelings isn’t considered manly nor is it common like it is in the US, therapy is openly talked about and accepted and men are encouraged to talk about their feelings it definitely seemed like the opposite in the UK.
Men going to therapy in the US is not common at all.... unfortunately. Alcohol/drug abuse and suicides (twice the rate of UK) are extremely high amongst men in the US. There's still a huge stigma attached to it.
@@brownjatt21 per capita alcoholism is lower in men in the US than the UK, you've also got to remember the US has 330 million people while the UK only has 68 million so nearly everything is bound to be higher.
@@kevinprzy4539 the numbers were based off of rate per 100k not just raw data, so it adjusts for population differences. UK was 7 suicides per 100k, US was 14. I think TV and movies might make it appear normalized but the attitude is similar to that of UKs for the vast majority of lads. Your soft, or weak for seeking therapy etc. My ex brother in law just died 2 days ago at the age of 34 from excessive alcohol and drug abuse over these past few years due to depression. Dude just wouldn't seek help, quit rehab multiple times and went back to his ways sadly. Even more personal my dad had a bipolar manic episode last year and would absolutely refuse to see a therapist (the only person who could legally diagnose and provide medication) he kept saying we were going to get him sent to a mental hospital that only crazy people go to therapy or something. It was hell for a few months at home while this was going on, he called the cops on me and tried to get me arrested for taking his car keys away cuz this dude was too nuts to be going out alone during this period. *Side note the video is very off, they were basing most of their stuff off of their visits to more conservative states like Texas and Florida where it's a little more old school and masculine in culture. There's no shortage of vegetarians and men who wear short shorts in the US how they making it seem lol.
@@soulja89 not according to the world pop review which has American males at 17% and UK males at 19% and no the top 10 countries with high alcoholism are almost all European countries (8/10 are european)
As an American, I’ve spent some time in England, France, and Italy. After my time there in Europe I really came to appreciate American men. They are more often chivalrous. I found British men to be similar, helping me with putting my bag up, opening doors, or letting me walk ahead of them. French men were more often into themselves, although I did find a couple notable exceptions. The culture in France just felt more neutral as far as gender roles, most people just looking out for themselves. The men I enjoyed the least were the Italian men. If you’re not a young beautiful woman they are trying to chase, then they completely ignore you. The men there also felt very expectant of the women to take care of them. I enjoy the traditional role of the man opening doors, paying for the date, etc. I expect to work and share in the household expenses, but I’m also ok with the man being the bread winner if we are married and in mutual agreement that I would be the one to take care of the kids and house and he will be the one to work, but we must both get to make our family and financial decisions together, with equal say. If one of us doesn’t stay home and we both continue to work when we have kids, then I expect us to both equally share the parenting and household roles as well. Too many woman in the generations before found themselves working full time, plus carrying all the responsibility for taking care of the kids and the house, while then man only had to worry about work and nothing else. That doesn’t seem fair at all… plus makes for a very exhausted and bitter wife.
When I visited London and was on the tube, I ALWAYS offered my seat to a woman if it was crowded. Maybe it’s me being a Southern American, but it’s just proper manners here in the south. And no women on the tube looked at me awkward or were insulted by the gesture.
I hold doors open for women because it's polite. I have no doubt that women can open a door. One time I was going into a restaurant and held to door for a woman in a very nice looking business outfit who was several steps behind me. She got up to me and said angrily "I can get it myself." As I was pulling out of the parking lot. I saw this same woman standing by a car and crying. I drove by and saw she had a flat tire. So I said to her. Normally I'd stop and change that for you. It would set my day but I'd still do it. But I'm sure you're capable of changing it yourself. And then drove.
I think it depends on how the boys are raised for the most part on how sensitive they may act. Like showing their feelings, crying, etc. My husband and I have our own accounts but we share the bills. I had a joint account with my ex-husband and he controlled everything. I couldn't spend anything without his permission. He legit went off on me for spending $1.25 getting photos of our son developed and told me I wasn't allowed to spend 25p without his permission. It's like... MY money that I earned is in there and I can spend MY money when I want. Ya, we split 2 1/2 years later for that and other reasons. I had a hard time getting used to my husband (when we were dating) to spend money on me all the time. I wasn't used to it after being with that controlling troll.
To me it sounds as if you weren't married to a man at all. Dude should have spent a few more years working on himself before asking someone else to share his life with. Hope all worked out in the end.
I have been married for 31 years and my husband and I only have one joint account. We only talk about amount spent if we want to spend a large amount. That goes both ways though. If either of us want to spend $100 or so we just do it.
Dana says- Same. I even share his RUclips account! Though that's because my memory stinks and I keep creating my own account and then forgetting the password. LOL
44 years here and joint account all the way. Once you have children there isn't much discretionary money, so why make it more complicated. This worked for us, I can see it not working for everyone.
As a man having grown up during the women's movement of the 70's, I have always thought of women as equals. I know that a woman is capable of the same things a man is. So I just naturally expect the same from either sex. And the same is true for men. Men have it in them to be nurturing and caring, some just have difficulty showing it.
@john wallace I don’t think you’re right and it’s insulting to me that you assume I do. And it’s offensive we’re having this conversation on someone else’s comment. But Ummm… are you aware there are military draft laws in the US that historically banned women from combat? Implemented in bygone years? Many women wanted to serve but weren’t allowed. Are you aware of mandatory female military service in Israel? Korean service? In any case… I’m done. Thanks, man, best to you.
@tony borelli Back in the '70s, they kept sending me that postcard every month when I turned 18. I never signed up. I guess they got tired of mailing it.
Grown men dressing like overgrown toddleers: It’s been one of my pet peeves for years but didn’t think about being an American thing. Good point. AND, I live in in the deep south of the US, know all about the meat thing! 😂
I don't understand that one. In the South men should be dressed. Before bed every night I had to iron my clothes, jeans and all, and my clothes were inspected by my parents to make sure I looked fantastic every day. So as an adult, I always ensure no man or woman is dressed better than me, even just going outside to get my mail. Where were the parents in these men's lives?
@@Bbabcock8 What you're describing is actually, whether you knew it or not, mostly a Southern thing. This "keeping up appearances" and dressing-up for everyday affairs. Sure, people do it elsewhere, but this is only a cultural thing in the South. It's unheard of in some other parts of the United States.
At first, I was like, "no we dont", then I looked down at my 45 year old body, wearing a t-shirt, jeans, and sneakers (That's trainers to you Brits) and had to kind of agree.
I can be Uncle Donnie since you are my niece and nephew's age. Joel, guy's shorts here in the US are getting shorter especially the younger generation. Remember, us older guys grew up with short shorts... look at old pictures of basketball stars.
Joel: Her Majesty would be devastated if HRH Prince Joel renounced his British passport! She relies on your videos to keep her spirits! Thanks for a fun video, guys!
@@ThoseTwoBrits1 Plus, if you take on US Citizenship you can never get rid of it. Plus there's the onerous tax returns Americans whether living at home or abroad have to file every year.
@@edwardmiessner6502 I'm not sure where you got this from. You can legally reject your American citizenship at any time. In fact, it's something that's regularly done in some countries that don't allow for dual citizenship, especially if you want to enter politics or something of the sort. Hundreds of (former) Americans make this decision every year.
Several years ago when going to shop for a car, they salesman kept talking to my male friend who came along with me. I didn’t get it. I was buying the car. I was the one with the money… (I’m American - this was in the US).
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Are you just talking about Texan men? I live in New Jersey which as part of the tri-state area is more cosmopolitan and the men here aren’t that way. After living in the US for over 20 years I’ve found you can’t lump all Americans in as one, because it very much varies depending on the state they live in, almost as if each state is a separate country in a way.
Joel, you don’t have to give up your British citizenship, because Britain allows dual citizenship. American born citizens aren’t allowed dual citizenship, but if their parents are originally born in another country which allows dual citizenship they can apply for it. I know lots of Brits with dual citizenship. I also know lots of other people with dual citizenship here in the US. It’s all very confusing which is why I remain as a resident and keep my British passport as just like you I’d feel like a traitor to my Queen and country. 😆😍🇬🇧🏴
American men do not wear shorts below the knee. Lol. That was a style for some.
I'm a Southern American man. Generally speaking, we're taught to be very respectful and protective of women but not because they're fragile or incapable, but rather because they make the world go around with their generally selfless behavior and it's just out of respect and care. For me, it's not a feeling of women being inferior but out of gratitude and respect.
Nailed it ! My husband opens the car doors for me and my daughters and our son was taught to do the same ..also opening doors for elderly,, I’m glad we have this kind of respect for each other ❤
If I am the first person to the door, I am going to hold it open for whoever is behind me. It has nothing to do with gender, it is just polite.
Absolutely! It's the American way.
Right , you are trying to stop the door from slamming in their face. The only country I won’t hold a door as I am going thru is Germany because they act absolutely snotty about it.
I too hold the door open for people and I'm a woman. It's just the polite thing to do.
@@TheMadeofhonor Me too. I'm an American woman from the south. My parents taught me to be polite to everyone. This includes holding the door for the person behind you. I've had people literally let go of the door right in front of my face and to me it's incredibly rude and thoughtless. I just wasn't raised that way. I'd get a spanking if I was rude to people, lol.
Holding a door open for a lady isn't saying that you think them incapable of opening a door, it's sign of respect.
It's also an excuse to check out her behind as she walks pass.
@@713TEX
WTF ⁉️
But its also a sign of respect for a woman to hold a door open for a man. Its just nice to be nice
@@sarahmoran2636
Right. I've opened the door for men, ladies (especially up in age) and some children. I've taught my 6 boys to always open the door for a lady unless she says no. Respect is free to give.
Exactly!! 100% ❤️
American here, Californian to be exact. Men and women hold the door open for each other and members of the same sex. It's not just a gender role thing in the US. In a way it's sort of like apologizing for cutting someone off and getting to the door first. "After you!" and all is forgiven.
Never mistake kindness for weakness.
Good comment
Exactly
"There's no male vegetarians in America?" Clearly you guys haven't been to LA in a while.
And I live in Iowa and there are 2 vegan restaurants in the smallish town I live in.
Those men in LA who are vegetarians are called “soy boys” or feminine men. They wouldn’t be considered manly in my state
Or Austin which is in Texas so HARD EYEROLL
There aren't many vegetarians in the US at all. It's in the single digits.
@@susanoakeshauf There are more than that in my family in Iowa.
I will offer my seat to anyone that looks like they need it more than me (old people, someone with children, someone with packages, etc.). And I'll hold the door open for literally anyone (men, women, children, young, old lol)
Same!!! As it should be!
Me too.
Yeah, don't most people hold the door for the next person coming along assuming they are fairly close?
Same. And I'm female.
Wow you are special.....
Lol. I appreciate if a man ASKS if I need help. I can 100% take care of myself, but I think it’s nice if a man asks….except when they expect something. If it’s to be polite or kind….yes! You can help me.
And the worst is wondering the intention behind the action, ugh...
@@RosheenQuynh Yet at the same time the intention is to simply be nice. Nothing more.
@@fakereality96 I mean, yeah but... sometimes the guy wants something in exchange for it. Thankfully, not all do
@@RosheenQuynh It is sad that in this day and age it seems to be the norm.
@@bradkeough8073 Indeed... 😩
I was raised to hold the door open for anyone who is entering after me no matter their gender…..It is just a sign of respect. We don’t think of you as incapable. As an American woman, it doesn’t even enter my mind that someone thinks me incapable because they hold the door for me or offer me their seat. That is so foreign to me lol
Why does the phrase, “he’s in touch with his feminine side” exist, however, you never hear, “she’s in touch with her masculine side”?
I think they used to be called manish women.
Loooooool
Because with girls we still say tomboy and in touch w/ feminine side is a euphemism because people used to say sissy or f slur
So true ! Why can’t they just be in touch with their humanity? We’re all sentient
Hang out with lesbians like I do.
I'm British and a very rude woman once shouted at me for holding a door open for her. She said 'I don't need a man to hold a door open for me'. But I would (and do) hold a door open for anyone, man or woman. I'm very sorry being polite and for having good manners😂
I would said oh it’s just the money you need From a man
dude, you robbed that statement from atleast 3 others on this subject.
And it can get silly for the door being opened by anyone if they're off on timing. Too long, you've made a spectacle us which is embarrassing. And if youre making dead eye contact with it, well thats just creepy.
@@gozimusable1 I didn't rob it from anyone, it happened about five years ago. Have a nice day and keep spreading positivity online 👍
Some people are just crazy
@@daveoliver8308 wiener
American men do cry (if their football team loses, HA)
Or if their baby girl gets married.
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...or their dog dies.
Or they have to pay alimony.
Or after sex, just me?
As far as loosing viewers, real American men are not so sensitive that they would stop watching because they disagree.
Real men can take criticism.
(That's a bit of tongue in cheek)
losing
😂
Losing not loosing.
@@fionagregory9376 I dunno, I feel looser after watching them.
My husband hates beer and is quiet. He doesn’t like the attention on him. A lot of times British people are viewed as snobby.
American guys holding a door, carrying a bag, offering your seat, and other things like that for women is not saying that they are incapable. We do it because women are special enough that they shouldn't have to do those things. It's a sign of respect. Putting the effort in for a woman because she's special enough that she shouldn't have to.
Us American men just grow up being very competitive in school, sports and life. Yes we have a feminine side but it us very subdued. British men from the ones I have met are very proper, kind and courteous but do nit have that hyper competitiveness. Us American men are more obnoxious but will help a person in need in a crisis.
These are generalizations but they do fit. It all stems from childhood to be the best you can be in all things.
Have you ever seen a British soccer match?? Or Rugby???
@@tonylarussa4046 have you been to a pee wee football game.
@@rickyks7232 Totally! There was a law passed in a city around here that refs can ban parents for life from their kids football games.
@@Joe-yz7qx they have that everywhere in the US because of father's that take their kids little league games too seriously. Even when I was a kid in the 90s I remember watching father's get kicked out of my leagues softball games 😂
I'd say Irish men have a huge masculinity side they try to live up to too. British men do come off [stereotypical & from observation] as whimper & delicate. I know they're still strong & can be manly.. this is just the perspective one outside of the UK sees & witnesses with our own eyes.
I usually prop doors open for people (no matter what gender) if they are within 5 ft behind me. It's nice and a kind thing to do.
I prefer a “manly” man. It’s probably why I usually find Scots more attractive than English men. Or American men more attractive than English men. I want to be protected, I want the seat on the train, I want the door opened, etc. I can be strong in other ways.
I don't blame you as irish & Scandinavia decent in the usa I dont blame and I 100% agree with you
I agree.
Women want men to be traditional while women can be whatever they want to be. "Traditionalism for thee, but not for me."
@@SpykerSpeed very true. We are somehow programmed this way. Over the years I’ve changed and now appreciate and embrace more traditional gender roles.
Honestly, probably the majority of women prefer masculine men.
5:59 I think the male masseuse asking the "husband" for permission was more about not offending the husband by crossing a boundary rather than asking because the woman is perceived to be incapable of making a decision. Some men could take exception to another man touching his wife in certain ways. If that were the case than I would suggest not going for a massage at all personally, but I believe he was trying to show respect to the "husband". Especially if he detected you were from a different country and may have different standards regarding things like this.
As a LMT this was a regular occurrence. In couples the men always kept an eye on the therapist if the it was a male. Sometimes it was weird.
@@sspiker that is so strange and would irritate me.
I think the masseuse thought the husband would know what the wife prefers, and I agree he might defer to the man to avoid any suspicion of being too familiar to the wife, since her husband is with her and can arrange everything for them both.
I still think it’s not appropriate to ask the man. He should have asked Lia only.
I’m very capable but I like being treated like a lady. I don’t want to do heavy lifting. I love doors opened for me. Old fashioned manners are the best!
Thank you so much. As an American man I thought this video was very thoughtful. I'd add that there are regional traits and differences between the cities and the countryside. I'd say masculinity in the cities is more like what Joel mentioned about norms in London. And I will agree that American boys are raised to be confident, independent, and generous. Attitudes toward women I think depend on your relationship with your mother. If your mother is more feminist then I think you grow to be a man with more progressive attitudes toward women. Also, many of us were raised by single mothers so that gives you experience of having a strong woman in your life which I think also influences your attitudes. Great vid.!
Yeah, there was a study on who thinks they can defeat a wild animal. Like squirrel, tiger, bear, etc. While there was a gender gap, UK males still lost to USA women.
Raised by a single mother and I agree 100%. Independence was so ingrained into my ethos that for many years I would not ask for help even to my detriment. Learned and somewhat unlearned that lesson well.
100/100👏
The English men I've talked to say that British men are not as willing to go to therapy. In the States more men have been open to therapy over the past 20 years. I find this particularly interesting.
Agreed, but I think even with US men in therapy they still are able to create/bring a much more masculine approach to daily life. Only now they're able to do it with a stronger open/caring/understanding thought process.
@@joshrees3413 I feel like you now have a touch of knowledge on therapy now & from there you can help the UK grow. You don't have to go to therapy yourself, but you could help spread the word if it ever came up in any future discussion that hey.. maybe therapy isn't a bad idea & if anyone you ever know laughs at the idea or thinks down on it educate them on what you've seen about it. Btw... does the UK military not push therapy for the troops? Here in America that's a TOP place where therapy is used. For everyone in the military and PTSD. Mental health is a huge topic of discussion in America & American Government as we fight for federal & state funding yearly for it.
Really? I'd think going to therapy would fall under the category of 'men talking about their feelings', which would be a rare occurrence. To me I would have a hard time believing that therapy couches in Idaho are filling up faster than Southern California. Although I am willing to be wrong.
@@fakereality96 well that's probably just one of the reasons Idaho & it's male citizens are looked at as the crazy state 😜 (different type of crazy from Florida).
@@mermaid1717 Florida Crazy. I like that! I'll have to save that one for 2024. Thanks!
Come to the west coast and you will find the vegan and vegetarian men.
😂 Yup
And not a single real man!
And the girly boys
@@Driver_022 lol
No thanks.
This divide is even further between conservative and liberal American men.
Americans (I can only speak for the South) generally will hold the door for others if they see someone approaching the door behind them.
I think American men adapt to their situations. I had a job where I only worked with women and I ended up being more sensitive, soft of speech, kinder perhaps, and gentle. I found myself asking for recipes and fashion tips! Never talked about sports or cars or lawncare once! Back with a mostly macho, male environment and I returned to my former ways. If you want to get along...males adapt and change their approach and speech.
You sound lovely. However, from my experience (as an American woman,) I believe American women (as for most women) do significantly more adapting than do men, generally speaking. Many women feel obligated to talk about sports just to fit in, even in gender-balanced workplaces. I can see that being the lone man or strongly outnumbered would have a higher probability of causing a man to adapt...but I don’t think the same would be the case in a 60 w/40 m environment 🤷♀️
@@goosebump801 Women do more adapting than men? If only you knew what goes down when the ladies aren't around.
Very true! I have done the same thing.
@@fakereality96 that’s a fact
@@fakereality96 SHARE!! What goes on?
I don't understand why insecure ppl have to ruin kindness for others. If a man offers a seat & u don't need it just freakin say No Thank You. It's really not that difficult. Ppl need to Stop saying the quiet parts out loud! If u think he thinks ur weak, just say no ty, turn away and roll ur eyes. But now ppl who Could use a seat won't be offered one because someone had to be bristly when no offense was ever meant. Sheesh! 🙄
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Yes !
Showing my age but when I grew up you unlocked and opened the car door for the woman you were dating, but expected for her to reach across and unlock the driver's side door. It was a way of both sides showing courtesy to each other. With automatic door locks, I think people have forgotten about the second half of this gesture.
Yes, it's out of respect and courtesy! Way to take it personal as a personal insult or something. Some people are just weird.
I am married to an Englishman, I’m an American and I have struggled at times with how much more feminine he seems than the men I grew up with. I like men who are rugged, strong, will fight for what’s right and protect the vulnerable. I realized it was cultural and not that he would leave me for a man or something lol. I love my husband, he’s such a good man and I wouldn’t trade him!
However, yes… I almost said “no” when he asked me to marry him because I wasn’t sure if I could get used to his mannerisms lol. He obviously, is not overly feminine otherwise I would not have had any attraction at all.
I grew up with two older brothers, lots of guy friends, and I LOVE their masculinity! I really appreciate how different they are from me. My brothers were my protectors ( they also taught me how to fight) and of course my dad, male cousins and male friends. I honestly think too many American men are unfortunately closer to a “6” these days. What is “toxic “ about masculinity though? Sounds very judgmental. Just like saying “toxic femininity” to women. Who is deciding this? Lol.
Men giving up their seat is a sign of respect, just as holding the door open. When we get mad about such things, you have to realize, we don’t have any real problems lol. Where I’m from, men will also hold open a door for a man that might be right behind him, likewise a woman for a man. Men just don’t really expect it here. Also, men are supposed to be respectful, polite but also masculine in our upbringing, which is so so so attractive to me.
Anyway, not upset here, just sharing my thoughts on it. Much love.
Please excuse typos! Multi tasking! Lol
I agree with you.
My wife and I absolutely love England and I find it hard overcoming my American upbring when there. The hardest is when talking to an Englishman I reach out to shake their hand and they do not want that. Or when passing English people in general I was taught to look everyone in the eye and say hi, lol they do not.
As someone who absolutely loves strong dominant manly men, I feel compelled to say: masculinity is not inherently toxic but there ARE some general gender traits in the US that are absolutely toxic and damaging for both men and women. Toxic masculinity exists and toxic femininity also exists. Two examples: mansplaining and pick-me girls.
Just because you like manly men and was raised so, doesn’t mean that it isn’t toxic.
@@alexylee3947 Please explain toxic masculinity.
what self-respecting man doesn’t hold the door open for another man as well?
I don't know any adult man that hasn't cried at one point or another. I think the statement that American men don't cry is a myth.
I think it's a generational thing. I think it's much rarer for a man who grew up during the Great Depression or before to be seen crying than it is for more recent generations.
I totally agree with the "girl boss" thing. I just said to myself the other day when I saw someone hashtag girlboss "ugh! Just be a BOSS! Why must I be a girl boss.. I'm just a boss!"
This is so funny considering that one of my favorite quotes about being a married man that I've ever heard came from Denis Thatcher, husband of The Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher. Someone once asked him if he wore the pants in the family, and he replied, "I most certainly do. I also wash and iron them." You don't have to be British or married to Margaret Thatcher to know what he meant. LOL
Lol. My mom went to school with Margaret Thatcher.
Toxic masculinity is definitely a big problem here in the U.S.. If I notice someone right behind me, I'll hold the door open for them without thinking if they're young, old, male, female, whatever. It's just good manners.
Ive literally held the door for other men and ive had men stop at the door and say "go" and im like "im holding the door" and they say something like "go, i got it" like wtf man. Just fucking walk in the damn building ajd go about your day
Feminism Feminazis are the problem.
@@KaentukiTheFuki Stop trying to control men
right. toxic masculinity is "you can't." healthy masculinity is "I can."
I agree, although I tend to go in first and hold the door open behind me.
A Texan woman married to a Texan man for 24 years. I was raised in a home with a sister, a mom ,and a dad. Very strong female power vibes given to my sister and me from both my parents. My household is very traditional, and I love it. I love never being given a check, never mowing yards, fixing or painting anything. My very traditional husband has handled every unpleasant issue that has intruded into our household. I do every traditional female role in our house that involved raising 3 boys. Society might object that I love our arrangement, but I dictated I will never do any chores outside, vehicle, sewer, roof, garage, or hunting related. Right now, my husband is serving me my favorite cocktail.
To me that is female power. You had the option to decide what you would and wouldn't do. If you chose the traditional role then it's fine because you weren't bullied into it. I think most of us just want the freedom to choose which role we prefer and not made to do one or the other.
As a man, I don’t mind helping women, but I want them to also help me - if I’m struggling to carry groceries, please help. Chivalry can be both ways. I just despise when it is EXPECTED of me to help just because I’m a man.
Little bit has to do with regional attitudes. And how the person was raised. As a woman who would be considered a tomboy when young. I can change my own oil in my pickup but don't mind if a man would offer. It boils down how secure are you in your feminity/masculinity and how gracious a person you are. Though I am uncomfortable if a man cries more than me.
Grace being missing from many discussions about society gender rolls lately. What are we as a people turning into? Likewise a man should be gracious enough to accept help from a woman/lady from time to time.
Men shouldn't cry.
@@Anon54387 women should pay for meals
There are lots of male vegetarians in the U S. they are just soft spoken people who live quietly instead of being loud and flamboyant.
The unfortunate truth is that the obnoxious loudmouths in America are so easy to notice and the other, quieter people get overlooked.
Vegan American here. They really missed the boat with this video. This was, by far, Joel and Leah’s worst, most ridiculous video I’ve ever seen. This must be a joke.
Joel needs to visit places other than Texas :-)
American man here
American men are viewed as more masculine because of the very competitive nature that we are brought up in!
I drink whiskey and sometimes wine.
I don’t always have to be the center of attention, I’m glad to give the spotlight to other people!
I don’t want to pay all the time; feminist rejoice!
@@jerseymetalmike5111 I totally agree that J & L need to visit more states than just Texas.
Texas is a poor barometer for the US
Men should always treat a woman with the same respect as he treats his mom.
Some men don't respect their mother
@@Simbecile Not always.. It shouldn't be.. Some mothers don't deserve respect*.. Some mothers weren't moms..
*i mean.. I think everyone deserves respect as a human being but not everyone deserves RESPECT..
@@Simbecile Lol.. I wasn't talking about my mother.. I was talking in general.. Some mothers are toxic and abusive.. Obviously if he is being disrespectful openly over something stupid/small then yeah.. But I was talking about people who have had it bad.. They exist.. And i said what I said.. It shouldn't always be a red flag until you know the reason.. As the saying goes.. "Respect is not given.. It's earned.." And that goes for parents too.. They aren't exempt from that just because they conceived you..
@@JoshGarciaJGG 100000%
@@rickyks7232 I'm not talking about those type of males. I am talking about "men"
REAL men are respectful.
I'm of latin descent, and we are raised to be respectful to women. Remember, there are no men without women
Joel, nobody would EVER accuse you of being like an American man!
This is one of my favourite discussions I’ve watched you two have.
I enjoy the fact that I don’t always agree with your views because it continues to keep my mind open. But the moments when I completely agree with you (as an American 43 year old whole lived in multiple counties was well as having had a drivers license in 5 states…I’ve moved a lot) bring me such joy.
This is a great video!
You are so right about the man automatically being addressed in the US and the woman being ignored. It makes me absolutely crazy! If I ask a question, I expect the answer to be directed at me, not the man. It's rude.
See, I've never actually experienced that, and I've lived in 5 different states.
most places I go in, they'll tend to address whoever comes in first, which makes total sense to me, so if my husband steps in ahead of me, he will be addressed first, or more typically, they will address us together, ie "How are you guys today?" If I ask a question, the person will address the answer to me. Maybe there are differences in different parts of the country, my experience has been mostly in the Midwest and South.
@@2Blessed Could be a regional thing. I live in the Northeast and people are rude in general.
Yikes!!!
This happened to me just the other day. My brother and I went to the bank and I was talking trying to problem-solve with the bank manager, and every time he answered he would look directly at my brother. Oy vey!
@@tans3015 It is so aggravating!!
I was taught that the person that does the inviting pays. Ask me to the movie, dinner or whatever you pay. I do the invite I pay. Or if you want to just get together for a while then say Dutch treat. So they know they pay their way.
My mom owned her own business and it annoyed/amused her that salespeople would come in and address whatever man was in the room-and not her. “Why do they always talk to the man?”
I always assumed men hold doors open because women used to wear massive, cumbersome dresses and just getting through the door was a genuine challenge.
Australian men seem very manly to me
I love it when a man opens the door for me (I do for anyone)or helps me with something heavy. In the immortal words of Blanche Deveraux, “I don’t want to be treated like an equal, I want to be treated much better than you!” 😂
No woman would say that, only a girl. And I would walk away from her very quickly.
To be fair,if someone's behind you,you keep the door open,basic manners.
You can still be an independent woman and also be treated like a lady. That’s how I like to be treated.
Hi Melinda! How’re you doing?
There are many multiple layers of American masculinity not only within the Country itself but also within the Regions and sub-regions of America. The American cultural South is as masculine as you can get within all of Western society as a broad Region and Southern Country Boys often refer to your average American Northern man or boy as little pansies. Southern Appalachia( West Virginia, Southwest Virginia. and far eastern Kentuckey and Tennesse) attempts to out do the rest of the Cultural South in Masculinity but just end up perverting the idea into hyper-aggression. I come from a German family and learned both English and German at the same time. Within the South as a whole I now naturally act, walk, and talk(When Speaking English) just like any other Southern American Man but I was thought of as a wimp in Appalachia because: I wouldn't continue to beat someone after knocking them unconscious in a fist fight, start a physical altercation over a passing verbal insult, defend the honor of a girl I went out on first date with by using violence(I would only curse the poor sap), never physically assaulted anyone at random out of boredom or prejudice, never did a date rape or an armed robbery to take what I wanted. I'm so thankful that I left the Appalachian hell hole that I was in!! Watch The Dancing Outlaw or The Wonderful Wild Whites of West Virginia if You All think that I am exaggerating the details.
P.S. Americans, Germans, and Russians are also very blunt and direct compared to British People. My Russian wife almost got herself kicked out of some British restaurants in Essex for her "rude way of speaking" in the form of very direct English commands.
I'm American and haven't heard of most of these things, sounds like propaganda honestly. Women also want a masculine man, universally.
It is hard to know when someone is being generous instead of being condescending. I do enjoy as a woman when someone is kind enough to offer some help. However, I don't like it if the tone of voice implies that he needs to help me because I look totally weak and powerless. I can do things by myself if I have to.
I agree.. As a guy that grew up with basically nothing but a bunch of girls I have a greater respect and love for them and so i want to show that towards them but at the same time I don't want to come off as if I think they're less than.. That's the last thing I want.. But it is hard finding a balance that both sides are comfortable with..
but why should I struggle to do something that a guy could do for me way easier. Like yea I could eventually get a pickle jar open after banging on the lid with a knife, running it under hot water, trying to open with a towel etc but why go through all that when the guy can just open it easily in 2 seconds. There are just some things that guys are better at. Physical strength is one of them and I’m ok with admitting that and allowing a man to use his strength to help me instead of struggling to do it myself
@@princesskkay221 For me, the deciding factor is tone of voice. Does he offer to help in a nasty, offended voice or in a pleasant, calm voice? Does he treat me like a friend or an annoying burden?
I'm not asking the nasty guy unless I am truly and completely desperate for help.
Yes. I once went on a date with a guy who essentially treated me like a sugar baby. He had this idea in his head that he was rich, successful and worldly, and I as the woman, was poor, desperate for money, naive and uneducated. He took me to Chili's (which was fine), but he treated it as if I were in one of those rags to riches Cinderella movies - as if I simply couldn't understand how to navigate a Chili's. Of course I thanked him for dinner, but he later got mad that I wasn't appreciative enough. He literally commented on how he gave me a once-in-a-lifetime experience and that I should be grateful to him for exposing me to a new way of life. At Chili's! I even tried explaining to him that I had been to Chili's probably 100 times, but of course he didn't listen. The funniest part of all of this was that I earned 3 times as much as he did. He just assumed I made less than him, and since I don't find it polite to mention my salary on a first date, I never corrected his assumption.
@@ekaski1 Wow.. Lol what.. Sometimes being a guy is embarrassing.. I just don't understand some of them/us.. lol I hope you didn't give him a second date..
If I had the money I would spoil/go all out cause that's just the person I am.. I would hope I'd never act like a douche with it (especially with a chili's 😂).. Sadly many guys have a god complex and think they're superior to not just women but everyone.. Alot of times that's just the way they were raised..
One time I asked a woman why her husband thinks and acts like men & father's are superior and she said "Cause they are.. The bible says they are.." and bout spit my drink across the room.. I was thinking "Wow.. So now I know why she lets her husband walk all over her and why one of her son's is a complete egotistical douche" smh
Per the shorts- we do kind of associate men with shorter shorts as “preppy, daddy’s trust find, frat boy” vibes lol.
Coming from a Texan, i hold the door open for everyone, just seems like common courtesy to me tbh.
No male vegetarians in America? No, that’s not a generalization. It’s simply incorrect - wildly incorrect.
Texas is the worst place for men who don't eat beef. The beef industry is HUGE there.
I believe you can be a legal resident in the US and still be a British citizen.
You can
Uhhh, don’t take as normal anything a Texan says. They’d love it if they spoke for all Americans, but they definitely do not.
Here here!
Thank God somebody pointed that out!
Things would be a lot better if how they did things in Texas was paid more attention to. Electricity is far less expensive in Texas than California which is why businesses are moving from California to Texas.
@@Anon54387 until there isn’t any electricity. Lol
There is an American stereotype of men being overly masculine- and I think it is an accepted stereotype. My husband, however, is a sensitive, softie- and I love it! I think the red meat thing was because you were in Texas- there are many men who eat healthier- chicken, fish, more vegetarian.
As a woman, I have always been the main bread winner. My first husband, from Brazil, had no problem with it. My second husband, from Russia, struggled with it constantly and was always finding ways to demoralize me and dominate me in compensation.
I definitely lucked out with my husband. While he is a masculine American man, he also gets pedicures and such with me, watches garbage tv with me, doesn’t shy away from a girly cocktail, talks about his feelings…all while treating me like a Queen.
I was born in Middlesex England. My mother was British my Dad an American Air Force Serviceman. I was born on the Air Force Base. I have dual citizenship. I have an American and a British Passport. And both countries recognize my dual citizenship. I never had to chose.
My wife was from Canada. When she got her US citizenship in New Orleans they made her surrender her Canadian citizenship. She found out later that she only had to go back to Canada and they would reinstate her Canadian citizenship.
@@oscarlinebaugh8930 Right-my daughter has dual citizenry (U.S/Canada)
I think it's dumb to be insulted when someone offers help, regardless of gender. I've seen old men get really defensive when someone offered them their seat on the bus.
Would either of you date a "disabled" person? Remember, not all disabilities can be seen with your eyes!
That’s so true that not all disabilities are visible. I am visually impaired and most people can’t tell I’m disabled. I don’t use any mobility aids or dark glasses, so there is no indication of my vision loss. I can pass as a abled person. Although if people watch me for long enough, they’ll see me holding someone’s shoulder, elbow or hand LOL.
My husband doesnt drink . He doesnt wear shorts. He does eat all meats..and he's straight...hugs from the USA.
I am female..fyi
I searched on “America bashing brits” and you two were at the top of the list. From what I’ve seen of you so far, you have definitely earned that spot. If you hate Americans so much, why do you constantly talk about us?
In the US, the custom is to pour wine for the person who ordered it. If Joel ordered the wine, the server would bring it to him first.
It is?? Since when?
If someone orders wine the waiter will pour it for everyone unless they say they want to pour themselves
The meat is definitely a Texas thing. Raising of cattle is their history n culture.
WHAT??? I'm from the NE and we all eat red meat and steaks.
@@thegreatest3371 But do you insult men who don't eat meat?
@@thegreatest3371 I agree! I’m in NC and we are huge meat eaters too! Meat & potatoes are one of my favorite foods.
@@kellbing I don't know any men who don't eat meat. Everyone I know loves a good steak. My father would of mocked men who didn't eat beef and drink beer.
@@TheMelindaZombie Exactly! I'm in the Pennsylvania mountains, everyone loves a good steak, meat loaf, pot roast, all of it and Yes with potatoes. We all love it.
I think it even applies to Latin/South America. Many facts mentioned in this video apply either way to men from there
machismo
Funny story: I was raised in the South and now live on the west coast. I miss the chivalry of Southern men so much. I was in Atlanta visiting a friend and hadn't been in the south for over 10 years. I was walking in the parking lot toward a gym and this guy, who was further away from the door than I was, suddenly SPRINTED toward the door at top speed. I thought, "damn, this guy really wants to work out today and beat me to his favorite treadmill???" Turns out his sprint was so that I wouldn't have to touch the door handle to open it. He did it for me AND stood there until I arrived at the threshold. I nearly burst into tears, honestly. He was even older than I was, AND called me ma'am.
My husband was raised mostly on the west coast of U.S. and doesn't hold doors open for me, which is ok. But without ever thinking about it, he's the one who takes our bikes off the bike rack on the car, and puts the bike rack in the garage. He's the one who always carries in the groceries even when I stand next to him waiting to carry a bag to the house. He's the one who will carry heavy things for me without asking. On the flip side: He's the one who also does all kitchen chores (cooking, dishes, food shopping/planning)---just because he enjoys those tasks of the household. I'm like you Lia, I like being treated like a "lady", but also know that I can do a traditional man's job just as well as he can.
I also have been the breadwinner in my 18-yr marriage and make double what my husband earns. He has no problem with it. I do. I'd at least like him to earn the equivalent, but he's not as driven in his career as I am. I've come to accept that. Cheers, you two!
I live in Oregon now and its a completely different culture from the south.
I'm from Boston and my 27 year old son is a vegan. Vegan for 7 years and he didn't drink alcohol at all. Beer is out of the question.
Yeah I was gonna tell them that when they take their Boston trip, no one will think twice if they don't want to order meat.
@@Rachel-rs7jn, based on passed comments Joel and Lia made, I think they will like Boston. It's very European in feel and it has a lot of culture which Joel has said he likes about Europe.
@@ProsperityClubEducation I agree! It's probably the most "European" American city, English in particular.
@@ProsperityClubEducation When you say that Boston seems very "European", are you referring to the strong Irish and Italian influence?
Greetings from Sydney, Australia...
@@rebeccasimantov5476, no it was colonized by the English and they built the city by the English standards. Oldest historical buildings are found in the east coast especially Boston where the majority of American history began. Narrow windy streets. Walkable city.
Actually I was a tour guide in Boston. I was known as Ms Beantown. Drive a huge green and orange bus while entertaining the tourists.
I can relate to your massage story. Men in America get more attention and respect than women EVERYWHERE like stores, professional offices etc. sad but true.
Try a different lens. Could the masseuse been asking him as a respect thing, as not to be touching his wife’s feet if it could be deemed offensive to either of them? Men talking to other men is sometimes simply so they don’t appear to be hitting on that persons loved one...has nothing to do with lacking respect for her or thinking she’s not capable of making her own decisions. I’m sure if you look again you will see most women talk to the female person in the couple more often than the man.
Idk about that... women get A LOT of attention in America. I'd say the only place I still have issues is crowded ass bars. I will say that's still a fucked up place that no matter where or who the bartender is.. male or female.. men get get waited on instantly over & over & women get cut in front of & ignore.
Here we go
Sometimes a door is so heavy that it takes my whole weight against it. It is nice to have a man open a door for you if it is exterior and heavy.
American man here. Preface, I have spent about two years in total in Europe..1 year at least in the UK. The idea of "Manhood" in America IS funny. By hook and crook our troublesome history aside, America is a country built by elbow grease and wild democracy! It's homespun and I think that has a lot to do with masculinity especially in the frontier states moving west! Masculinity is also a part or every assimilating culture in America from Black to White, Asian to Indigenous. I think It all really ties back to the Idea that no matter The Circumstances if you come to these shores you have to carve out a better country no matter the hardship or current iniquities. I know the video was about men but American women no matter their ethnicity are some of the hardest ball busting women on the planet! They are just as bootstrap and ingenious as any man, our current societal progression is a testament to that. I feel British people have a harder time grokking the American experience in a way Irish, Scottish and Australians may not. But that I a whole other conversation.
You can’t use Texas as the basis for any opinion on America. Texas is like America with 100 exclamation marks. Lol…
Older American men were brought up to protect and support women ( the eventual wife.) But I believe that's changed since the mid 20th century.
Oh that’s funny!
Yes ❤️
There's nothing "funny" about your analysis. It's exactly right. Men were taught to protect women and children. My parents told me that before the 1950's, if a man used swear words in front of a woman or child, the other men present would beat him up. You just didn't behave that way in public, and if you did, men would enforce proper behavior upon you--with their fists. As feminism became a thing in the 1960's and 1970's, men started saying to themselves, if women are going to act like men, then we'll start treating them like men. That's when men stopped holding doors for women and giving up their seats for women.
@@bigscarysteve Sounds like equal rights, equal fights to me.
@@bigscarysteve Fast forward to today, men and women are fighting over the last chicken wing.
When I was a kid (1970s in US) I was often told as a guy, I need to open doors for females so as to treat them like a lady and ladies first. I don't hear that anymore, but yeah, when I was a kid that was a big thing adults would tell you to do.
It sounds like you're about a decade younger that me. I was told the same thing as you, and I saw it happen a lot when I was younger. That kind of behavior disappeared in the mid-1970's where I live. I suppose its disappearance wasn't uniform across America. I think a lot of what is discussed in this video may be less about differences betweek the UK and the USA, and more about differences between older and younger generations.
@@ahermes11 If the younglings learn to be considerate of other people, I think that's a victory in and of itself.
Hmm I'm 33 and I open doors for children, women, and elderly. I don't even think about it I just do it. I have had some rude looks for doing it as well but most of them smile
@@ahermes11 I was taught to open doors for women and elders
I’d say the opposite, in the UK I’ve noticed going to therapy and talking about your feelings isn’t considered manly nor is it common like it is in the US, therapy is openly talked about and accepted and men are encouraged to talk about their feelings it definitely seemed like the opposite in the UK.
Men going to therapy in the US is not common at all.... unfortunately. Alcohol/drug abuse and suicides (twice the rate of UK) are extremely high amongst men in the US. There's still a huge stigma attached to it.
@@brownjatt21 per capita alcoholism is lower in men in the US than the UK, you've also got to remember the US has 330 million people while the UK only has 68 million so nearly everything is bound to be higher.
@@kevinprzy4539 the numbers were based off of rate per 100k not just raw data, so it adjusts for population differences. UK was 7 suicides per 100k, US was 14. I think TV and movies might make it appear normalized but the attitude is similar to that of UKs for the vast majority of lads. Your soft, or weak for seeking therapy etc. My ex brother in law just died 2 days ago at the age of 34 from excessive alcohol and drug abuse over these past few years due to depression. Dude just wouldn't seek help, quit rehab multiple times and went back to his ways sadly. Even more personal my dad had a bipolar manic episode last year and would absolutely refuse to see a therapist (the only person who could legally diagnose and provide medication) he kept saying we were going to get him sent to a mental hospital that only crazy people go to therapy or something. It was hell for a few months at home while this was going on, he called the cops on me and tried to get me arrested for taking his car keys away cuz this dude was too nuts to be going out alone during this period.
*Side note the video is very off, they were basing most of their stuff off of their visits to more conservative states like Texas and Florida where it's a little more old school and masculine in culture. There's no shortage of vegetarians and men who wear short shorts in the US how they making it seem lol.
@@kevinprzy4539 American males have higher alcoholism rates per capita then the uk, and majority of european countries for that matter.
@@soulja89 not according to the world pop review which has American males at 17% and UK males at 19% and no the top 10 countries with high alcoholism are almost all European countries (8/10 are european)
Because the US is obsessed with the UK, you can keep your British passport if you become a US citizen. My partner is a dual-citizen.
You’re not a hypocrite. We should be paid the same. But if something needs some heavy lifting or rough doing we(men) should take care of it.
It's not that serious people. Be nice and be happy when someone is nice to you.
And ALWAYS be polite and thank them if they open the door or help in some way! Common courtesy and being nice cost nothing, but go a long way!
As an American, I’ve spent some time in England, France, and Italy. After my time there in Europe I really came to appreciate American men. They are more often chivalrous. I found British men to be similar, helping me with putting my bag up, opening doors, or letting me walk ahead of them. French men were more often into themselves, although I did find a couple notable exceptions. The culture in France just felt more neutral as far as gender roles, most people just looking out for themselves. The men I enjoyed the least were the Italian men. If you’re not a young beautiful woman they are trying to chase, then they completely ignore you. The men there also felt very expectant of the women to take care of them.
I enjoy the traditional role of the man opening doors, paying for the date, etc. I expect to work and share in the household expenses, but I’m also ok with the man being the bread winner if we are married and in mutual agreement that I would be the one to take care of the kids and house and he will be the one to work, but we must both get to make our family and financial decisions together, with equal say. If one of us doesn’t stay home and we both continue to work when we have kids, then I expect us to both equally share the parenting and household roles as well. Too many woman in the generations before found themselves working full time, plus carrying all the responsibility for taking care of the kids and the house, while then man only had to worry about work and nothing else. That doesn’t seem fair at all… plus makes for a very exhausted and bitter wife.
And DIVORCE. Its a partnership.
When I visited London and was on the tube, I ALWAYS offered my seat to a woman if it was crowded. Maybe it’s me being a Southern American, but it’s just proper manners here in the south. And no women on the tube looked at me awkward or were insulted by the gesture.
God created men to be masculine and women to be feminine
I hold doors open for women because it's polite. I have no doubt that women can open a door. One time I was going into a restaurant and held to door for a woman in a very nice looking business outfit who was several steps behind me. She got up to me and said angrily "I can get it myself." As I was pulling out of the parking lot. I saw this same woman standing by a car and crying. I drove by and saw she had a flat tire. So I said to her. Normally I'd stop and change that for you. It would set my day but I'd still do it. But I'm sure you're capable of changing it yourself. And then drove.
"Having dated a few men... not very long... a few weeks..." JOEL IM SO SORRY BUT THATS HILARIOUS. Youll find love though someday
I think it depends on how the boys are raised for the most part on how sensitive they may act. Like showing their feelings, crying, etc. My husband and I have our own accounts but we share the bills. I had a joint account with my ex-husband and he controlled everything. I couldn't spend anything without his permission. He legit went off on me for spending $1.25 getting photos of our son developed and told me I wasn't allowed to spend 25p without his permission. It's like... MY money that I earned is in there and I can spend MY money when I want. Ya, we split 2 1/2 years later for that and other reasons. I had a hard time getting used to my husband (when we were dating) to spend money on me all the time. I wasn't used to it after being with that controlling troll.
To me it sounds as if you weren't married to a man at all. Dude should have spent a few more years working on himself before asking someone else to share his life with. Hope all worked out in the end.
I love this little heart t-shirt, Lia ♡
You can't understand typical American men without understanding typical American women.
Gosh, look like American guy is perfect for me, the way how treat woman, kind, genuine and much, much more
I have been married for 31 years and my husband and I only have one joint account. We only talk about amount spent if we want to spend a large amount. That goes both ways though. If either of us want to spend $100 or so we just do it.
We’ve been married for 23 years and we do our finances exactly the way you do...right down to the $100 purchases.
Dana says- Same. I even share his RUclips account! Though that's because my memory stinks and I keep creating my own account and then forgetting the password. LOL
That's the same as my husband and I. I'm also a military wife. Maybe that has something to do with it
44 years here and joint account all the way. Once you have children there isn't much discretionary money, so why make it more complicated. This worked for us, I can see it not working for everyone.
my husband and I have been 39 years and we do joint accounts and yes we discuss big purchases but not small ones.
As a man having grown up during the women's movement of the 70's, I have always thought of women as equals. I know that a woman is capable of the same things a man is. So I just naturally expect the same from either sex. And the same is true for men. Men have it in them to be nurturing and caring, some just have difficulty showing it.
@john wallace And that happens… on the Titanic???? ☹️
@john wallace I don’t think you’re right and it’s insulting to me that you assume I do. And it’s offensive we’re having this conversation on someone else’s comment. But Ummm… are you aware there are military draft laws in the US that historically banned women from combat? Implemented in bygone years? Many women wanted to serve but weren’t allowed. Are you aware of mandatory female military service in Israel? Korean service? In any case… I’m done. Thanks, man, best to you.
Sorry @Bob Linke 🤷♀️
Same here. My mom was an early feminist after my parents divorced. I also grew up with two older sisters. Thank God!
@tony borelli Back in the '70s, they kept sending me that postcard every month when I turned 18. I never signed up. I guess they got tired of mailing it.
Grown men dressing like overgrown toddleers: It’s been one of my pet peeves for years but didn’t think about being an American thing. Good point. AND, I live in in the deep south of the US, know all about the meat thing! 😂
I don't understand that one. In the South men should be dressed. Before bed every night I had to iron my clothes, jeans and all, and my clothes were inspected by my parents to make sure I looked fantastic every day. So as an adult, I always ensure no man or woman is dressed better than me, even just going outside to get my mail. Where were the parents in these men's lives?
@@Bbabcock8 What you're describing is actually, whether you knew it or not, mostly a Southern thing. This "keeping up appearances" and dressing-up for everyday affairs. Sure, people do it elsewhere, but this is only a cultural thing in the South. It's unheard of in some other parts of the United States.
@@Bbabcock8 If you want to judge me for my dress, you can buy my clothes
Methinks that only occurs at Wal-Mart.
At first, I was like, "no we dont", then I looked down at my 45 year old body, wearing a t-shirt, jeans, and sneakers (That's trainers to you Brits) and had to kind of agree.
In the South, not holding a door for someone, regardless of gender, is extremely rude.
Try buying a car as a single woman in the U.S. It’s a nightmare!
You guys are funny but you’re also out of your collective minds but I find it very entertaining
I can be Uncle Donnie since you are my niece and nephew's age. Joel, guy's shorts here in the US are getting shorter especially the younger generation. Remember, us older guys grew up with short shorts... look at old pictures of basketball stars.
In the 1970s our shorts were up to our balls.
@@thegreatest3371 and old people are annoyed that it's so hard to get shorts that aren't just slightly shorter.
Joel: Her Majesty would be devastated if HRH Prince Joel renounced his British passport! She relies on your videos to keep her spirits! Thanks for a fun video, guys!
I would certainly like to think so!!
Michael, I'm going to take a wild guess that YOU are the person they were referring to as a man who prefers wine over beer. 😅
@@gentlespiritjw4904 Yep! That would be me!! Good guess!!
@@ThoseTwoBrits1 Plus, if you take on US Citizenship you can never get rid of it. Plus there's the onerous tax returns Americans whether living at home or abroad have to file every year.
@@edwardmiessner6502 I'm not sure where you got this from. You can legally reject your American citizenship at any time. In fact, it's something that's regularly done in some countries that don't allow for dual citizenship, especially if you want to enter politics or something of the sort. Hundreds of (former) Americans make this decision every year.
Several years ago when going to shop for a car, they salesman kept talking to my male friend who came along with me. I didn’t get it. I was buying the car. I was the one with the money… (I’m American - this was in the US).