I think the biggest issue was that last season everyone got use to Goku black as well as Survivors getting skills focused on fighting because of Broly + Goku black. A new raider seems to always stabilize the game's meta somewhat and right now it seems like the game will stay pretty stable so long as stupid decisions aren't made.
I'm still upset that every Raider is the same build. There is no variety with builds like Survivors. DBD let's you build the Killer as stealth, slowdown, or super aggro. Imagine a Frieza that could sneak up on you easier, a Buu that can lock down an area with gum, or a Cell that could IT.
only way to nerf dodge spam was to slow it down, but I thought they’d add .5 seconds not 2. there are still a dozen+ options for being hard to hit, so it’s not like survivor is unplayable or even that much different if you didn’t partake in the cheese (UC) also my brother in christ that civ is looking at a wall 21:25 you want to join the tuffles at that point 😭
For dodge they could just make it vanish, dash, vanish so it's still not as busted as constant vanishes but still gives enough I frames so you don't get dominated.
The dodge nerf was the most stupid change the game ever had. Completely ruined solo queue. Now playing without stress is only possible if you're in a premade. And I say more; premade with stuns will still kill the raider in like 15s. They nerfed a DEFENSE mechanism and let the most opressive OFENSE mechanism intact...
The wholeass community including stray: Survivors need a nerf! UC is too strong! Bandai: ok The wholeass community including stray: *surprised pikachu face*
Sup Stray! Miss the breakers content and seeing you in game but it is what it is and I get your reasoning. My feelings on season 6? Honestly new season so far has been pretty good but I just think its cause there's new content, not much new content, but new content nonetheless. Once the zeni boost is over and majority of the player base finish the event, the queue times will be back to how it was late last season which was pretty bad with my 3-4 stack. Obviously I don't like the dodge nerfs but it hasn't effected my games against Baby as much as I initially thought. Speaking of Baby, and its probably too early to feel this way, but I think he's fine raider to play against. First couple of games against Baby were rough, but the more people played the more people understood what to look out for while playing against him which is good. Dragon balls means he can't do Goku Black Lv2 strats which has clutched a couple games for me. The nerf to supplies is definitely felt against Goku Black doing Lv2 strats not so much the other raiders. The new vehicle Launch skill I've been having a lot of fun with since I made a vehicle build after getting Jaco's Ship last season. Outrunning raider's ki blasts and supers with Nimbus+Expert Driver[Speed Boost] is so fun and I can open boxes and stuff while still being on Nimbus is great. That being said I hate that there's two Launch skins with 1 new skill each that you have to use TP tokens for AND Bulla is just another Bulma skin. No new skin in the battle pass sucks. The season 6 survivors skins feel so much worse when compared to last season where Mai had 2 skills, Puar had 2 skills and Jaco had 1, but that 1 skill is really good. Resistance is also an amazing skill and Puar's skills are both pretty fun. TL;DR Season 6 is ok to ehh kinda bad. Wake me up when we get SSJ4 transpheres then I sleep until 2nd anniversary when it'll be easier to get the 5* skills I couldn't pull last season. Or even this season. Dragon Fist looks so sick but you know I ain't pulling that
I think that the dodge needs are alright and are over exaggerated because you can play just fine you just need to change up how you play a little to incorporate the new changes
I swear I have a love/hate relationship with this game lol on one hand trying to survive a powerful raider can be very fun even if you don't win. However, I end up having an issue in this game similar to xenoverse 2 online where it feels like stuff hits or misses when it really shouldn't. Like its one thing being a survivor that's weak against the raider, it's another when they handicap you even more and having difficulty finding good teammates without them already being your friend. Dont get me wrong , I still need alot to improve on skill wise but some aspects make me feel like Im getting kicked when I'm already down 🤣
Hey man, If you don't have fun playing the game, you should probably drop it and come back when you actually feel like playing it. Best of luck to you whatever you decide.
Folks always misconstrue what is said. I just wanted to enjoy playing the game as raider, not for survivors to be complete pushovers. Some nerfs are good and were needed (I personally enjoy the drink nerf) but some like the dodge nerf feel like they went a little overboard and kind of missed the mark. After all we got here mainly because of how broken some skills or builds can be. Again, I never liked the drink strat, there's nothing more annoying than fighting a surv, maybe wasting a minute or two on them in STM phase, only for them to transform as soon as their Dchange runs out. That however was at least survivors just being smart...then they rolled out MoB, and it just felt like they had designed that skill in a vacuum. How someone can look at a 30% increase with no drawbacks other than "uhoh raider must hit youuu" and think it's fair, is beyond me. It just feels like the devs had very little foresight when making skills in general. You can tell by how now they're churning out skills that can't be stacked (for example Sneeze is not affected by First Aid). That said, the general nerfs somewhat balance out against the offending skills. I just think they need to tweak some things before we can say S6 is balanced, lol.
Nah cuz the meta skills still help them out a lot. Survivors just randomly disappear after using either instant rise or descent and UFO is still super good.
Well stray is right they could have done something different. The reason they nerfed dodging is because the raiders still punching Air while wide open for attack. Instead of making raiders cancel out of it they just nerfed survivors dodge. 🤷♂️🤷♂️. Kinda justified if they can't fix that one issue
is your Monitor 4K? and are you running at 4K?? cause i have that problem when i'm on 4K my Monitor will just randomly keep going black and then come back. i fixed it by going 1440p and it hasn't happened since.
Funny story you guy's and gal's I got got by baby Vegeta when he was at level 1 as a civ and I didn't even notice him at first like I saw the civ but didn't think that was him until I left the building. 🤣😅 P.S. I will say that raiders having access to instant descent pretty cool in terms of being able to escape from survivors when you need to. 😎
Man, I've also tried to queue with friends and it just does not work, it sucks. I love this game but these devs really need to understand that region lock has been murdering the game since it was added on Season 4 and coast lock in Season 5 just made it worse.
Stray i see you play on PC, i was wanting this update to fix the problem ive been having with the fps not staying at 60, do u have problems with this as well or no?
Its not being negative there are always something to recognize that could've been better through your experiences and u understand to just deal with. Its only really complaining when one continues to say bad qualities bout something that'll never change as long it exists, for you not to wish to learn and adapt for the future situations ahead
great vid , nerfs in general were good , survivors really needed some , but they went a bit too far. Just hope the Team brings out like weekly patches to balance the game so it keeps the game balanced and fresh
Haven't played since Goku Blacks first week and if y'all are gonna keep complaining about Survivors I will NEVER return. This game was already Hell for solo-que Survivors and you wanna make it worse? Raiders already have around a 70% win rate at the highest rank but what you want even more wins? No you people just have to accept the fact that you're not always gonna have control over your matches and you're not gonna always have fun in your matches, get over it.
Where can I find the scrub players you fought? Every time I was raider I had to actually try my hardest to win. Against players whom didn't know what they were doing I had 90%. On players like coolmoeny/bubbles/kockz squads or even survivors that had braincells my winrate was probably 10%. Usually got stunlocked, Memories of Battle+Coming for you combo jumped or playing the chase game while their keyrushing/prepping up to battle me. Then in battle you either got Afterimage cancel to instant deathball , afterimage cancel into final explosion, or ol reliable SBC.
@@itsatentaquil3152 Scrub players? most of our matches are a bunch of 100's and above, Broly is too easy despite being called the worst raider since his debut
@@Budokaienjoyer NOW he is the best raider due to survivor nerfs, Back then?(season 4 and 5) You definitely fought scrubs. Premades(Z ranks or high survivor whom are 200+ usually) that have a smart ST user stalls Broly with Unconcious Control and if you ignored them once they follow you and attack you from there. If you attempted anything their teammates stun locked you and you died. You were also ki spam camped because Super Transpheres ki blasts reach further than Ultimate D Changes. It was absolutely LAME. Goku Black level 3 suffers same issue. If you think Broly was good that's how I knos you didn't fight a good ST user LOL
@@itsatentaquil3152 Didn't fight a good ST user? At one point I was locked In a fight with blue goku for over 3 mins then he came back as Gogeta to do the same thing they lost but to say I never fought a good ST user despite his win rates being the best in the game despite Ginyu being the previous raider before him is just cope
Devs nerf things based on wat the community needs not wants. imagine if Dead by Daylight devs nerfed/buffed everything the survivor players wanted. The game would be a shitshow and unfair
Notice that the survivor nerfs and raider buffs only applied to combat. Survivors are actually incentivized to hide and run from the raider, since tools like instant transmission and Jaco ship remained untouched. This is a good thing! The raider actually feels threatening now, meaning newer players will learn to evade the raider instead of throwing their D-change away and dying. Experienced raiders no longer have to worry about getting decimated in a single fight or being indefinitely stalled by a super transphere. I firmly believe that survivors still are, and always will be in the driver’s seat. The only difference is that the raider can actually do something about it now. Even if the content this season has been disappointing, I think the game itself is in a much better state.
Pretty huge agree, my only real gripe is that GB is still hugely overtuned especially now. Ki Sense PLUS rush down/mobility in this meta is awful to play against.
It’s kinda nice to see you back on Breakers, but there’s not really much reason to stay is there? I won’t blame you for returning to MHUR in maybe 4 videos lol. If this makes any sense, Breakers is the most “nothing” game I’ve played in a while. I came back to it, and neither can I really enjoy or hate it, it just kind of exists for me. Games usually aren’t close in the slightest and end up a full sweep on either side. Survivor nerfs were expected, but I miss playing like a lunatic and having an actual working escape plan. Think the worst thing coming back to Breakers is how slow it is, MHUR has you always doing something but MAN, Breakers just feels like it’s spending my time. I’ll probably play until I have the event items, but there’s not even a reason to do Dragon Tier this season.
@StrayStream If I ever picked this game up again, i'm getting it on Steam I because I was really, really, really fed up with how abusive the game is in the Is previous seasons and probably still is towards raiders
I think this is second-last season for the breakers, you can see it because the less effort they put in this season content, and sparking zero is close
Stray, what did they do to the game we love......
Sad that we probably wont get alot of Stray Breakers content this season :(
Unfortunately. I love watching breaker vids but unfortunately stray only listens to loud ultra rumble fans
@@Waaaaterrrrrr agreed
@@Waaaaterrrrrrdawg let him upload what he enjoys 🤦
@@bbxavier2137 I'm just sad that since he's lost interest in breakers that we won't be getting as much breakers content anymore
@Waaaaterrrrr mate he has given an understandable explanation as to why(and he didnt need to).
9:30 You were thinking the same thing 😂
I think the biggest issue was that last season everyone got use to Goku black as well as Survivors getting skills focused on fighting because of Broly + Goku black. A new raider seems to always stabilize the game's meta somewhat and right now it seems like the game will stay pretty stable so long as stupid decisions aren't made.
I'm still upset that every Raider is the same build. There is no variety with builds like Survivors. DBD let's you build the Killer as stealth, slowdown, or super aggro. Imagine a Frieza that could sneak up on you easier, a Buu that can lock down an area with gum, or a Cell that could IT.
only way to nerf dodge spam was to slow it down, but I thought they’d add .5 seconds not 2. there are still a dozen+ options for being hard to hit, so it’s not like survivor is unplayable or even that much different if you didn’t partake in the cheese (UC) also my brother in christ that civ is looking at a wall 21:25 you want to join the tuffles at that point 😭
"But I knew you were suspicious from the very beginning!"
"You know, that's a lot less convincing when you're talking to the *wall."*
For dodge they could just make it vanish, dash, vanish so it's still not as busted as constant vanishes but still gives enough I frames so you don't get dominated.
The dodge nerf was the most stupid change the game ever had. Completely ruined solo queue. Now playing without stress is only possible if you're in a premade. And I say more; premade with stuns will still kill the raider in like 15s. They nerfed a DEFENSE mechanism and let the most opressive OFENSE mechanism intact...
The wholeass community including stray: Survivors need a nerf! UC is too strong!
Bandai: ok
The wholeass community including stray: *surprised pikachu face*
Sup Stray! Miss the breakers content and seeing you in game but it is what it is and I get your reasoning. My feelings on season 6? Honestly new season so far has been pretty good but I just think its cause there's new content, not much new content, but new content nonetheless. Once the zeni boost is over and majority of the player base finish the event, the queue times will be back to how it was late last season which was pretty bad with my 3-4 stack. Obviously I don't like the dodge nerfs but it hasn't effected my games against Baby as much as I initially thought. Speaking of Baby, and its probably too early to feel this way, but I think he's fine raider to play against. First couple of games against Baby were rough, but the more people played the more people understood what to look out for while playing against him which is good. Dragon balls means he can't do Goku Black Lv2 strats which has clutched a couple games for me. The nerf to supplies is definitely felt against Goku Black doing Lv2 strats not so much the other raiders. The new vehicle Launch skill I've been having a lot of fun with since I made a vehicle build after getting Jaco's Ship last season. Outrunning raider's ki blasts and supers with Nimbus+Expert Driver[Speed Boost] is so fun and I can open boxes and stuff while still being on Nimbus is great. That being said I hate that there's two Launch skins with 1 new skill each that you have to use TP tokens for AND Bulla is just another Bulma skin. No new skin in the battle pass sucks. The season 6 survivors skins feel so much worse when compared to last season where Mai had 2 skills, Puar had 2 skills and Jaco had 1, but that 1 skill is really good. Resistance is also an amazing skill and Puar's skills are both pretty fun.
TL;DR Season 6 is ok to ehh kinda bad. Wake me up when we get SSJ4 transpheres then I sleep until 2nd anniversary when it'll be easier to get the 5* skills I couldn't pull last season. Or even this season. Dragon Fist looks so sick but you know I ain't pulling that
I think that the dodge needs are alright and are over exaggerated because you can play just fine you just need to change up how you play a little to incorporate the new changes
Stray i love this game tbh but the xbox wa community is so dry i havent into a match since the season began
on Xbox and i still can't find any matches either been playing with same players kinda dry community
These nerfs are too much, the dodge is crazy and the cool down thing too
21:26 I want to play just so I can troll like that 😂 that was hilarious especially when they stamped him afterwards
I swear I have a love/hate relationship with this game lol on one hand trying to survive a powerful raider can be very fun even if you don't win. However, I end up having an issue in this game similar to xenoverse 2 online where it feels like stuff hits or misses when it really shouldn't. Like its one thing being a survivor that's weak against the raider, it's another when they handicap you even more and having difficulty finding good teammates without them already being your friend.
Dont get me wrong , I still need alot to improve on skill wise but some aspects make me feel like Im getting kicked when I'm already down 🤣
Man its so fkn fun watching you play breakers again.
I really want to enjoy this game, but I feel like I need to play with 7 other friends just to have fun.
Also would getting everybody's dchange be better as a wish if hes lvl2 and 3 maybe 4?
Hey stray love the content I just got to ask what is that move where you got hit and went flying sorry I’m kinda new to the game
Hey man, If you don't have fun playing the game, you should probably drop it and come back when you actually feel like playing it.
Best of luck to you whatever you decide.
Folks always misconstrue what is said. I just wanted to enjoy playing the game as raider, not for survivors to be complete pushovers.
Some nerfs are good and were needed (I personally enjoy the drink nerf) but some like the dodge nerf feel like they went a little overboard and kind of missed the mark.
After all we got here mainly because of how broken some skills or builds can be.
Again, I never liked the drink strat, there's nothing more annoying than fighting a surv, maybe wasting a minute or two on them in STM phase, only for them to transform as soon as their Dchange runs out. That however was at least survivors just being smart...then they rolled out MoB, and it just felt like they had designed that skill in a vacuum.
How someone can look at a 30% increase with no drawbacks other than "uhoh raider must hit youuu" and think it's fair, is beyond me.
It just feels like the devs had very little foresight when making skills in general. You can tell by how now they're churning out skills that can't be stacked (for example Sneeze is not affected by First Aid).
That said, the general nerfs somewhat balance out against the offending skills. I just think they need to tweak some things before we can say S6 is balanced, lol.
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Nah cuz the meta skills still help them out a lot. Survivors just randomly disappear after using either instant rise or descent and UFO is still super good.
I started playing during mid-season 5, and from then to now, I don't feel the changes other than the vanish sometimes.
Well stray is right they could have done something different. The reason they nerfed dodging is because the raiders still punching Air while wide open for attack. Instead of making raiders cancel out of it they just nerfed survivors dodge. 🤷♂️🤷♂️. Kinda justified if they can't fix that one issue
Wait they took dodge away I haven’t played in a min ?
Level 2 Baby has a quick dash ability
is your Monitor 4K? and are you running at 4K?? cause i have that problem when i'm on 4K my Monitor will just randomly keep going black and then come back. i fixed it by going 1440p and it hasn't happened since.
You can use a CC break or transform to get out of a civillian grapple.
Remember that *you are marked* when a civillian grabs you.
I do think this season will be good once they fix the dodging. Whats good is while I dont exactly like playing MHA, ill fuck wirh your content anyways
Funny story you guy's and gal's I got got by baby Vegeta when he was at level 1 as a civ and I didn't even notice him at first like I saw the civ but didn't think that was him until I left the building. 🤣😅
P.S. I will say that raiders having access to instant descent pretty cool in terms of being able to escape from survivors when you need to. 😎
I was “ThisMansNotBlack” in that first game. That was my first game on that yesterday and we caught that W. It was a fun game lol.
My main two big issues is the nerf to drinking sodas while transformed and the dodging. Level one Baby needs to stop jump scaring me 😢
Man, I've also tried to queue with friends and it just does not work, it sucks. I love this game but these devs really need to understand that region lock has been murdering the game since it was added on Season 4 and coast lock in Season 5 just made it worse.
Stray i see you play on PC, i was wanting this update to fix the problem ive been having with the fps not staying at 60, do u have problems with this as well or no?
Its not being negative there are always something to recognize that could've been better through your experiences and u understand to just deal with. Its only really complaining when one continues to say bad qualities bout something that'll never change as long it exists, for you not to wish to learn and adapt for the future situations ahead
great vid , nerfs in general were good , survivors really needed some , but they went a bit too far. Just hope the Team brings out like weekly patches to balance the game so it keeps the game balanced and fresh
Haven't played since Goku Blacks first week and if y'all are gonna keep complaining about Survivors I will NEVER return. This game was already Hell for solo-que Survivors and you wanna make it worse? Raiders already have around a 70% win rate at the highest rank but what you want even more wins? No you people just have to accept the fact that you're not always gonna have control over your matches and you're not gonna always have fun in your matches, get over it.
Can you slide me those win rates please I wanna gloat about Broly to a friend
Where can I find the scrub players you fought? Every time I was raider I had to actually try my hardest to win. Against players whom didn't know what they were doing I had 90%.
On players like coolmoeny/bubbles/kockz squads or even survivors that had braincells my winrate was probably 10%.
Usually got stunlocked, Memories of Battle+Coming for you combo jumped or playing the chase game while their keyrushing/prepping up to battle me. Then in battle you either got Afterimage cancel to instant deathball , afterimage cancel into final explosion, or ol reliable SBC.
@@itsatentaquil3152 Scrub players? most of our matches are a bunch of 100's and above, Broly is too easy despite being called the worst raider since his debut
@@Budokaienjoyer NOW he is the best raider due to survivor nerfs, Back then?(season 4 and 5) You definitely fought scrubs. Premades(Z ranks or high survivor whom are 200+ usually) that have a smart ST user stalls Broly with Unconcious Control and if you ignored them once they follow you and attack you from there. If you attempted anything their teammates stun locked you and you died. You were also ki spam camped because Super Transpheres ki blasts reach further than Ultimate D Changes. It was absolutely LAME. Goku Black level 3 suffers same issue.
If you think Broly was good that's how I knos you didn't fight a good ST user LOL
@@itsatentaquil3152 Didn't fight a good ST user? At one point I was locked In a fight with blue goku for over 3 mins then he came back as Gogeta to do the same thing they lost but to say I never fought a good ST user despite his win rates being the best in the game despite Ginyu being the previous raider before him is just cope
Bro spent the entire last two videos complaining about winning
Im sorry for the information that was me.
For som reason it worked for me 2 games in a row so i commented.
😅
yeah on that corrupted Zamasu fight,
He has THREE CC breaks, if he really wanted to or knew what he was doing Stray would've died long ago
Zamasu is so overtuned man, no idea why they didn't nerf him this season
Baby shouldn't have pre infected civs
Can level1 baby destroy the time machine?
Baby hit stray with the oogile boogile 😂
hear me out, remove raider ki blast 😃😃
*SSJ3 INTENSIFIES*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Devs nerf things based on wat the community needs not wants. imagine if Dead by Daylight devs nerfed/buffed everything the survivor players wanted. The game would be a shitshow and unfair
Nah. Breakers players definitely have better understanding of the game than devs.
Dead by daylight has its own issues, i still remember the killer afk start that people did.
DbD is a poor example that game has always been an unfair shitshow ruclips.net/video/1Wc3lavznus/видео.html
Notice that the survivor nerfs and raider buffs only applied to combat. Survivors are actually incentivized to hide and run from the raider, since tools like instant transmission and Jaco ship remained untouched.
This is a good thing!
The raider actually feels threatening now, meaning newer players will learn to evade the raider instead of throwing their D-change away and dying. Experienced raiders no longer have to worry about getting decimated in a single fight or being indefinitely stalled by a super transphere.
I firmly believe that survivors still are, and always will be in the driver’s seat. The only difference is that the raider can actually do something about it now. Even if the content this season has been disappointing, I think the game itself is in a much better state.
Pretty huge agree, my only real gripe is that GB is still hugely overtuned especially now.
Ki Sense PLUS rush down/mobility in this meta is awful to play against.
It’s kinda nice to see you back on Breakers, but there’s not really much reason to stay is there? I won’t blame you for returning to MHUR in maybe 4 videos lol.
If this makes any sense, Breakers is the most “nothing” game I’ve played in a while. I came back to it, and neither can I really enjoy or hate it, it just kind of exists for me. Games usually aren’t close in the slightest and end up a full sweep on either side. Survivor nerfs were expected, but I miss playing like a lunatic and having an actual working escape plan.
Think the worst thing coming back to Breakers is how slow it is, MHUR has you always doing something but MAN, Breakers just feels like it’s spending my time. I’ll probably play until I have the event items, but there’s not even a reason to do Dragon Tier this season.
Am I the legendary first viewer?
Indeed 🎉
Yes
raiders op huh
we'll see haha
@StrayStream If I ever picked this game up again, i'm getting it on Steam I because I was really, really, really fed up with how abusive the game is in the Is previous seasons and probably still is towards raiders
Random question Stray, but do you have an agency in Ultra Rumble? If so what is it and what’s the ID? I’d love to join!
Its called straymentoss and its application only so you need to wait a bit before able to joining
I think this is second-last season for the breakers, you can see it because the less effort they put in this season content, and sparking zero is close