Can I just randomly say that *I really appreciate* what you guys do? I so look forward to these Mission briefings, that opening music and the alert of incoming transmission has become _so associated_ with relaxing and getting ready to talk about ships! You don't even know how important this is to so many people and I'm proud to have supported you guys in the past and hope to continue to do so in the future as much as I can, even though it's not much. *Thank you* guys for being a very bright spot, especially during some otherwise dark days. *You guys are awesome, RAD and of course **_SLEEK_* !
This fan created class is a LOT OLDER than 2010. I've seen this since before RUclips. Someone had one named the U.S.S. Nova Scotia. This was back in 1999.
I'm not the designer, but I was part of the ASDB group back when this was developed and I vaguely remember at least some of Lance's thinking process (and it was 2004, so forgive me for not remembering all that much!) First off a little background; the ASDB was a little group of fan designers formed by Bernd of 'Ex Astris' (I think? I was a bit of a late comer) with the intent of coming up with designs to match some of the named, but unseen ship classes in Trek canon at the time. For this one the canon reference was some Okudagram reference to an NX reg U.S.S. Bradbury undergoing engine tests or some such and IIRC Lance conceived it as some advanced warp engine prototype, with half an eye towards it being somewhat of a Sovereign precursor. So far as I recall the design inspiration was exactly what it appears to be: a Sovereign saucer with a couple of Excelsior secondary hulls bolted on. I remember Lance being very enamoured with the twin hull design and the look of the two deflector dishes. Personally, I would have gone with a much lower profile (I think I may even have mocked up some proposed alterations) but this was Lance's baby and he stuck to his guns! I think Kenny may have embellished the details here and there, or even improvised a bit since the 2D plans he was working off were very low resolution, even at the time (god knows what they look like on modern screens!) and I think there was a slight problem with the side view not quite matching up to the ventral & fore in a way they really made sense. Keep in mind, these things were all done for fun in people's spare time and we all had input and sounded off as to what each other were doing, often lending a hand where possible (I may have even done some of the image maps on this one for Kenny myself.) So a lot of them seem a little half arsed because they were almost never "finished" in the sense of a fully finalised, well thought out design. Most were just left having in conceptual limbo as people lost interest and moved onto other things.
The description hinted at the Bradbury being a design testbed, and reminded me of the Sovereign, but never actually said it was definitively. Thank you for confirming my head-canon that the USS Bradbury and her sister-ships such as the Nova Scotia were indeed precursors to the next generation of Heavy Cruisers.
I like this. Follows the proper rules as set forth by Rodenberry, while being creative and different. Nowhere does it say the Collectors have to be attached to the nacelles. EDIT: Okay, i just saw the bottom view. Wow .... that's ugly, but still, I like the idea of of the collectors being separate from the nacelles.
@Teakyards - Stuart, the bussard collectors work by attracting and filtering Free Hydrogen gas, the raw gas is collected and separated to contain 99% free Hydrogen, and the excess gasses can be vented in the usual manner. The Hydrogen gas is converted to duturium and anti- duturium and stored in the storage tanks for future use. The duturium can either be used for either used for the impulse system or to supplement the warp power system M/ARA reactors, port and starboard side engineering, YES the Bradbury has two warp cores and two engineering rooms.
wsi trek I absolutely love that impulse design and would like to see it in cluded in ships in the future. It even makes sense engineering wise to have the thrust at the rear of the nacelles. Cool!
I like the logic of it if not the execution. The nacelles are in the back where they need to be, the bussard collectors are in the front where they won't be obstructed. Only if the deflector dish was right upfront on the nose and the shuttle bay wasn't in between the nacelles, frying every approaching shuttle. Not sure I like the double engineering hulls either. Overall, needs a bit of fine tuning but good effort.
TNG windows - always bigger on the saucer than the stardrive. It's the angle of the hull. Thinking of those torpedo launchers, they might be early quantum torpedo launchers, large because the prototype was much larger than the photon.
I love that everything is _curved and smooth off_ , and that way it reminds me aesthetically of the design cues on the Excelsior, sleek and smooth and rounded. Not a fan of the bussards on the front of the saucer, but I really do love this as a smaller saucer with two engines like and updated but smaller Miranda. I particularly like the top and side views, I would refined the bottom hulls a bit, and fiddle with the scale. Just another pass for refinements and you have a true winner here. Great job to the artist!
Samuel, you *crack me up* so much, your reaction to Stuart talking about the pool at 9:15 is *SO FUNNY* ! "Ahhh! That would be COOOOOOL!" : D I love you guys' rapport and easy communication you guys have with each other. It really adds so much to the channel! Cheers!
What I recall on this ship (which was never among my favs): Canon fact: The Bradbury was referenced in TNG as being the ship that transported Wesley Crusher to Starfleet Academy (I think it was in "Final Mission", but not entirely sure). Fandom facts on this specific design (as far as I recall reading about them years ago. I don't recall where I read about them nor if I recall entirely correctly): - The Bradbury was an experimental design (I remember seeing first drawings of it with a NX-registry). - One of the experiments was featuring an all in-line propulsion system with the bussards at the front cowling of the saucer, capable of transfering collected hydrogen into the nacelles which featured impulse engines in their aft caps. The intention behind this was to build a ship that could operate for very extended periods of time at high-warp and long range missions without support from Starfleet facilities or support craft while reducing maintenance by on board crew to a minimum. Again, I don't know if I remember this straight. I never cared much for this ship because imho it is... not that great looking. No offense to the original designer.
I wasn't the primary designer, but I was involved in designing the ship. I can narrow its creation down to '96-'98. It was after First Contact but before I got my associate's degree in 98. L.M. Nutter had already decided on dual secondary hulls by the time I started working on it, and we both agreed early on to incorporate the nacelles similarly to how the Steamrunner incorporates them into the saucer. After that we considered only having one deflector mounted in the saucer, but we decided to just go ahead and have a fully redundant second deflector. We rationalized it as part of a series of redundancies that would allow the ship to operate with the utmost minimum of maintenance support. He and I designed it over a series of emails, and if I recall the positioning of the Bussard collectors was the result of a miscommunication, but we decided to run with it. Yes, what you guys described as being possibly a turret cannon is indeed just the fixed, forward and aft torpedo tubes. I wasn't involved in any of the 3D design, but I can tell you the secondary hulls were not so Excelsior-like in the 2D design. Instead of looking like a fat letter U from the front, each one looked more like a fat, slightly rounded off V from that angle. Trekships.org's Bradbury class section has a 2D drawing that would have come well earlier than any of the 3D versions. Every once in a while I Google the ship to see what's going on with the design, and I'm always amused by the comments, so I was laughing pretty hard at some of this. It's cool that the design has a life of its own. A RUclips video is great, but I've also found people making and selling 3D prints of it on Shapeways. We decidedly pursued unique design choices, so I was always aware some people would look at it and just go, "Huh." Sadly, I lost touch with L.M. Nutter, and I wouldn't want to modify the design without his approval, but I would probably keep the dual deflectors but mount them in two bulges port and starboard of a single secondary hull and look at some kind of split tail arrangement to mount the nacelles onto. If you have any other specific questions I could try to answer them, but as I said, I wasn't involved in the 3D work and it was over twenty years ago, so I may forget or remember incorrectly.
Avanced Starship Design Bureau website a long time ago, I'd say pre-2004, not saying this person designed it but its a much older design. The older 2004 idea was a larger ship, smaller than Galaxy class, and maybe smaller than Excelsior slightly even if it had Excelsior hulls.
Def pre-2004. The fleet comparisons on the ASDB site includes this image dated 2003, which includes the Bradbury: www.trekships.org/fleet_starfleet_2.gif
This was in ASDB Bernd Schneider's site a lot earlier than 2010. Maybe he knows who the designer was. This looks like a prototype drawing before he did the scaling.
I agree with the commander, the ship is out of scale with the kit-bashness of the ship. I do find it as a great inspiration for a new design architecture for Starfleet designs. With just a few mods you could really make this pop
When you say the easy curve, I see the Excelsior and Ent D and then pushing everything inward to come up with the smallest overall profile for the ship. Compact Brawny look, but easy on the eyes.
Though its visually appealing, the bussard location doesn't work. Would lose a lot of internal volume in an already small ship when you could have incorporated the bussards into the blisters on the front of the nacelles. Delete the double deflectors, single deflector inset in saucer above or below, slim down the ventral nacelles or make them weapon pods. Could make a potent escort.
Here's a thing about Torpedos I've never understood in Star Trek. They are self guided weapons, what difference does it make whether the launchers are fore, after, ventral or dorsal mounted, the torpedo still goes in the direction its programmed to?
Chief Jericho firing it in the wrong direction means the torpedo needs to make a big turn, which wastes valuable time and gives the target more time to deploy countermeasures.
Marvin, the Torpedo is capable of FTL. Turning isn't an issue any more than a ship turning in a battle is. In fact its less of an issue due to the substantially lower mass of the Torpedo compared to a ship. It's simply overlooked in designs and special effects.
Torpedoes also burn fuel, firing them towards the target means less fuel burned on manuevers, and more fuel for heading towards the target, thus giving them more range.
The “eyebrow” hatches are cargo doors. You see the same design on the D and Voayger. They both have a small circular elevated hatch with the larger cargo hatch right next to it. This seems to be an early version of that.
I kinda like this, The dual secondary hull idea is interesting, and I don't have an issue with using the excelsior secondary for it. I love that they loose the necks for the most part , but the primary really doesn't match the styling. If they had used an Excelsior B saucer and attached where the outer impulse engines are that would work. Alternatively, take an intrepid primary and section it so it's wide enough (slice it in 3 strips with the bridge in the center and fill in the spaces between the strips, with the bussard collectors in the front of the filler places, that would fix the scale of the windows & bridge, yet keep the grapefruit spoon post TNG look.
Xander Gallagher Not bottom perhaps, but the top and sides of the front of the nacelles would have worked. I really wish the pontoons weren't there though. Keep it simple. No secondary hull. Saucer with a deflector dish on the front and two nacelles on top and back. If you absolutely want to have bussards on the front and nacelles in the back, clearly show the path of the ducts that connect the two on the skin. Don't just put windows and a phaser strip there like it's business as usual.
this ship is an interesting concept, but I would have done a few things differently. first, the nacelles would be coming off the back edge of the saucer, so that they line up with the position of the bussards, next instead of having two secondary hulls, I would have a single one on top, flush against the hull and a little smaller. so the ship keeps its overall shape, its just more streamlined now.
I really like this ship and boy do I got a lot to say about it, especially since I've designed a couple ships just like it. I definitely think those two angled grey hatches on the bottom are cargo bay doors. I wish more designs had them. As for the square ones if the ship is as small as the saucer section suggests, they're probably external access to the machinery that synchronizes the warp cores, while doubling as an ejecting system for that machinery. You joke about the blue parts being water, but on the NX-class, the blue behind the deflector was actually the water storage tanks. Don't ask me why they glow blue, I don't know, but it is on the blueprints. Though I don't know that it's specifically said anywhere, I always assumed the water was up front because they were concerned about cosmic radiation getting through the deflector, and water is pretty good at blocking it. There could be radiation-sensitive components behind those tanks on this ship as well. Or, yannow, maybe they are pools. I wouldn't serve on a ship without a celestial swimming pool. Getting a closer look at the undermount turret, it's definitely a static torpedo launcher. My thought is that the circular shape is actually something like a drum magazine. Both launchers share a single, large magazine due to the small size of the ship, rather than multiple small magazines. That would give you significant burst in either direction, and the drum shape allows you to reload anywhere on the magazine manually.
The Hull pod windows imply it's gigantic - but the saucer windows imply it's tiny. I'm confused. === But yes Bussards run fairly cold - they might have a little waste heat in them as they compress the hydrogen into a slush form for storage some heat is generated by that - however - that heat could be retained and used to convert to battery power or pushed into the ship's life support functions. But they don't have to compress the hydrogen in the Bussard that can be done inside the ship's innards. A Manufacturing & repair ship would benefit from large bussards as would a ship with an excessive sublight operations role. I like how it's kinda implied that the hulls can come off and perhaps achieve warp on their own - though that would imply 2 warp cores. They'd only be emergency vessels as they'd lack an easy way to refuel - short of ducting small amounts of Hydrogen around the edges of the Deflector dishes. The joke about Bussards is that they don't even need to be on the engines at all as their feeds goes to storage tanks not into the nacelles. They could just as easily be on the ship's flanks. Heck if those large rectangular panels on the discovery are not sensors they'd serve as a decent place for larger Bussards. But if they are "sampling" devices they could do both I guess. The rectangular blocks could be passive harvesting devices and the cylinders on he nacelle caps could be the tractor field emitters for the fine control or harvesting of other materials. Or the field could be generated in the Nacelle caps and harvested in the "wings" - I suspect the Blue rectangles are just blue coloured sensors though. (like the Enterprise D and Excelsior have).
@ Stuart, great show man. I don’t know if you know but the ASDB has a full write up on this and Many other FAN design starships. Perhaps you could add ADSB to your footnotes and give them credit for the info. Might make your FAN ships more accurate with Speculation.
Scaling is totally off. Primary hull windows (with secondary hull windows as a reference) are about 15' tall. Bussards integrated that much into the hull would concern me. Aside from that, different design. Kinda cool.
Hey guys, as others have said, the Bradbury class design is from the Advanced Starship Design Bureau at www.trekships.org, and is associated with Bernd Schneider's excellent fan site Ex Astris Scientia (at www.ex-astris-scientia.org), and is well older than 2010. That being said, please look into more of their ships, as the Bradbury class certainly isn't the best design they have to offer. A couple, (their Renaissance and Mediterranean class designs) have even popped up in licensed comics. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on these designs that have been kicking around for years.
Wasn't the USS Bradbury (in canon) undergoing Warp Drive tests? It would make sense, when running an experimental high performance drive, to use multiple warp cores.
Strange how I missed this one! And that it was suggested after this weeks Disco review.....hmmmmm.....OH WELL! Has anyone noticed that everywhere on the registry number is seen on the "secondary-nac-hulls" (LOL), it's started with "NX" instead of the "NCC" like seen on the main dish/hull? That maybe the engine set ups are experimental? And why the assumption that these are precisely USS Excelsior secondary hulls just being repurposed? I don't see that at all at first look. They are made for another ship, yes, possibly. Has anyone spoken with the designer" It would be nice with these fan designs that we did get the exact answers AFTER the two of you use your knowledge to make logical guesses. I do like it.....a lot. I can see this coming after the Defiant to once again make a fast, adaptable, BORG killing machine. Oh yeah, the bridge module feels so protected and secure there where it's put.
I think this could a be a assault transport, to sit in orbit of a planet landing troops. Provide if fire support and the sensors on the bottom of the saucer providing command and control. In peace time it could be used has follow up survey ship after a new planet is discovered and charted. Carrying geologist and other sciences and launching probes
What if this ship was designed to be buoyant and float on the surface of large bodies of water like oceans? In which case it doesn't necessarily need landing struts.
Why do you assume, that windows have all the same size? And why do you assume, that the windows always align with a single deck / one deck one line of windows? (talk about scaling)
Would,ve been nice if you had given Advanced Starship Design Bureau some credit--also, if you're using ASDB and/or JoAT as source material, either site has waaayyyyyyy better designs.
Can I just randomly say that *I really appreciate* what you guys do? I so look forward to these Mission briefings, that opening music and the alert of incoming transmission has become _so associated_ with relaxing and getting ready to talk about ships!
You don't even know how important this is to so many people and I'm proud to have supported you guys in the past and hope to continue to do so in the future as much as I can, even though it's not much.
*Thank you* guys for being a very bright spot, especially during some otherwise dark days.
*You guys are awesome, RAD and of course **_SLEEK_* !
This fan created class is a LOT OLDER than 2010. I've seen this since before RUclips. Someone had one named the U.S.S. Nova Scotia. This was back in 1999.
I'm not the designer, but I was part of the ASDB group back when this was developed and I vaguely remember at least some of Lance's thinking process (and it was 2004, so forgive me for not remembering all that much!)
First off a little background; the ASDB was a little group of fan designers formed by Bernd of 'Ex Astris' (I think? I was a bit of a late comer) with the intent of coming up with designs to match some of the named, but unseen ship classes in Trek canon at the time. For this one the canon reference was some Okudagram reference to an NX reg U.S.S. Bradbury undergoing engine tests or some such and IIRC Lance conceived it as some advanced warp engine prototype, with half an eye towards it being somewhat of a Sovereign precursor.
So far as I recall the design inspiration was exactly what it appears to be: a Sovereign saucer with a couple of Excelsior secondary hulls bolted on. I remember Lance being very enamoured with the twin hull design and the look of the two deflector dishes. Personally, I would have gone with a much lower profile (I think I may even have mocked up some proposed alterations) but this was Lance's baby and he stuck to his guns!
I think Kenny may have embellished the details here and there, or even improvised a bit since the 2D plans he was working off were very low resolution, even at the time (god knows what they look like on modern screens!) and I think there was a slight problem with the side view not quite matching up to the ventral & fore in a way they really made sense.
Keep in mind, these things were all done for fun in people's spare time and we all had input and sounded off as to what each other were doing, often lending a hand where possible (I may have even done some of the image maps on this one for Kenny myself.) So a lot of them seem a little half arsed because they were almost never "finished" in the sense of a fully finalised, well thought out design. Most were just left having in conceptual limbo as people lost interest and moved onto other things.
The description hinted at the Bradbury being a design testbed, and reminded me of the Sovereign, but never actually said it was definitively. Thank you for confirming my head-canon that the USS Bradbury and her sister-ships such as the Nova Scotia were indeed precursors to the next generation of Heavy Cruisers.
I like this. Follows the proper rules as set forth by Rodenberry, while being creative and different. Nowhere does it say the Collectors have to be attached to the nacelles.
EDIT: Okay, i just saw the bottom view. Wow .... that's ugly, but still, I like the idea of of the collectors being separate from the nacelles.
@Teakyards - Stuart, the bussard collectors work by attracting and filtering Free Hydrogen gas, the raw gas is collected and separated to contain 99% free Hydrogen, and the excess gasses can be vented in the usual manner. The Hydrogen gas is converted to duturium and anti- duturium and stored in the storage tanks for future use. The duturium can either be used for either used for the impulse system or to supplement the warp power system M/ARA reactors, port and starboard side engineering, YES the Bradbury has two warp cores and two engineering rooms.
The impulse engines are behind the warp nacelles. It works, why not.
wsi trek I absolutely love that impulse design and would like to see it in cluded in ships in the future.
It even makes sense engineering wise to have the thrust at the rear of the nacelles.
Cool!
I like the logic of it if not the execution. The nacelles are in the back where they need to be, the bussard collectors are in the front where they won't be obstructed. Only if the deflector dish was right upfront on the nose and the shuttle bay wasn't in between the nacelles, frying every approaching shuttle. Not sure I like the double engineering hulls either. Overall, needs a bit of fine tuning but good effort.
TNG windows - always bigger on the saucer than the stardrive. It's the angle of the hull. Thinking of those torpedo launchers, they might be early quantum torpedo launchers, large because the prototype was much larger than the photon.
I like the design, two sec hulls with nacelles on the top. Good job.
I love that everything is _curved and smooth off_ , and that way it reminds me aesthetically of the design cues on the Excelsior, sleek and smooth and rounded. Not a fan of the bussards on the front of the saucer, but I really do love this as a smaller saucer with two engines like and updated but smaller Miranda.
I particularly like the top and side views, I would refined the bottom hulls a bit, and fiddle with the scale. Just another pass for refinements and you have a true winner here.
Great job to the artist!
Samuel, you *crack me up* so much, your reaction to Stuart talking about the pool at 9:15 is *SO FUNNY* !
"Ahhh! That would be COOOOOOL!" : D
I love you guys' rapport and easy communication you guys have with each other.
It really adds so much to the channel!
Cheers!
What I recall on this ship (which was never among my favs):
Canon fact: The Bradbury was referenced in TNG as being the ship that transported Wesley Crusher to Starfleet Academy (I think it was in "Final Mission", but not entirely sure).
Fandom facts on this specific design (as far as I recall reading about them years ago. I don't recall where I read about them nor if I recall entirely correctly):
- The Bradbury was an experimental design (I remember seeing first drawings of it with a NX-registry).
- One of the experiments was featuring an all in-line propulsion system with the bussards at the front cowling of the saucer, capable of transfering collected hydrogen into the nacelles which featured impulse engines in their aft caps. The intention behind this was to build a ship that could operate for very extended periods of time at high-warp and long range missions without support from Starfleet facilities or support craft while reducing maintenance by on board crew to a minimum.
Again, I don't know if I remember this straight. I never cared much for this ship because imho it is... not that great looking. No offense to the original designer.
I wasn't the primary designer, but I was involved in designing the ship. I can narrow its creation down to '96-'98. It was after First Contact but before I got my associate's degree in 98. L.M. Nutter had already decided on dual secondary hulls by the time I started working on it, and we both agreed early on to incorporate the nacelles similarly to how the Steamrunner incorporates them into the saucer. After that we considered only having one deflector mounted in the saucer, but we decided to just go ahead and have a fully redundant second deflector. We rationalized it as part of a series of redundancies that would allow the ship to operate with the utmost minimum of maintenance support. He and I designed it over a series of emails, and if I recall the positioning of the Bussard collectors was the result of a miscommunication, but we decided to run with it. Yes, what you guys described as being possibly a turret cannon is indeed just the fixed, forward and aft torpedo tubes.
I wasn't involved in any of the 3D design, but I can tell you the secondary hulls were not so Excelsior-like in the 2D design. Instead of looking like a fat letter U from the front, each one looked more like a fat, slightly rounded off V from that angle. Trekships.org's Bradbury class section has a 2D drawing that would have come well earlier than any of the 3D versions.
Every once in a while I Google the ship to see what's going on with the design, and I'm always amused by the comments, so I was laughing pretty hard at some of this. It's cool that the design has a life of its own. A RUclips video is great, but I've also found people making and selling 3D prints of it on Shapeways. We decidedly pursued unique design choices, so I was always aware some people would look at it and just go, "Huh." Sadly, I lost touch with L.M. Nutter, and I wouldn't want to modify the design without his approval, but I would probably keep the dual deflectors but mount them in two bulges port and starboard of a single secondary hull and look at some kind of split tail arrangement to mount the nacelles onto.
If you have any other specific questions I could try to answer them, but as I said, I wasn't involved in the 3D work and it was over twenty years ago, so I may forget or remember incorrectly.
Avanced Starship Design Bureau website a long time ago, I'd say pre-2004, not saying this person designed it but its a much older design. The older 2004 idea was a larger ship, smaller than Galaxy class, and maybe smaller than Excelsior slightly even if it had Excelsior hulls.
Def pre-2004. The fleet comparisons on the ASDB site includes this image dated 2003, which includes the Bradbury: www.trekships.org/fleet_starfleet_2.gif
Anyone notice the NX registry on the nacelles/pontoons
...yep.
Yeah. Then NCC on main hull.
This was in ASDB Bernd Schneider's site a lot earlier than 2010. Maybe he knows who the designer was. This looks like a prototype drawing before he did the scaling.
I agree with the commander, the ship is out of scale with the kit-bashness of the ship.
I do find it as a great inspiration for a new design architecture for Starfleet designs.
With just a few mods you could really make this pop
The USS Easter Bunny. Capt Wonka commanding with a Oompa Loompa crew.
When you say the easy curve, I see the Excelsior and Ent D and then pushing everything inward to come up with the smallest overall profile for the ship. Compact Brawny look, but easy on the eyes.
Jebus! The water park with a plasma ceiling, looking down into space... sign me up!
Maybe the blue fields on the primary and dual secondary hulls are magneto dynamic force arrays to replace archaic landing pad assemblies.
Looks like the Excelsior and a Soverign had a Baby with a two secondary hull abnormally.
Though its visually appealing, the bussard location doesn't work. Would lose a lot of internal volume in an already small ship when you could have incorporated the bussards into the blisters on the front of the nacelles.
Delete the double deflectors, single deflector inset in saucer above or below, slim down the ventral nacelles or make them weapon pods. Could make a potent escort.
USS Bradbury Cetacean Class, brilliant!
Here's a thing about Torpedos I've never understood in Star Trek. They are self guided weapons, what difference does it make whether the launchers are fore, after, ventral or dorsal mounted, the torpedo still goes in the direction its programmed to?
Chief Jericho firing it in the wrong direction means the torpedo needs to make a big turn, which wastes valuable time and gives the target more time to deploy countermeasures.
Marvin, the Torpedo is capable of FTL. Turning isn't an issue any more than a ship turning in a battle is. In fact its less of an issue due to the substantially lower mass of the Torpedo compared to a ship. It's simply overlooked in designs and special effects.
Chief Jericho FTL in a straight line.
sharp turns and warp don't work well together.
Torpedoes also burn fuel, firing them towards the target means less fuel burned on manuevers, and more fuel for heading towards the target, thus giving them more range.
This ship looks like the Federation contracted the people at the Pop action factory to build it.
2010?! I could've sworn this ship has been around longer than that... I remember having this ship as a mod in Star Trek: Armada.
Dates back to at least 2003, aye. www.trekships.org/bradbury.htm
3:42 I think its a design cue from the enterprise C
Scaling's a bit weird, but I actually really dig it.
those escape pods on the inward facing sections of secondary hull are probably going to have a bad time trying to get away quickly
The “eyebrow” hatches are cargo doors. You see the same design on the D and Voayger. They both have a small circular elevated hatch with the larger cargo hatch right next to it. This seems to be an early version of that.
I kinda like this, The dual secondary hull idea is interesting, and I don't have an issue with using the excelsior secondary for it.
I love that they loose the necks for the most part , but the primary really doesn't match the styling. If they had used an Excelsior B saucer and attached where the outer impulse engines are that would work.
Alternatively, take an intrepid primary and section it so it's wide enough (slice it in 3 strips with the bridge in the center and fill in the spaces between the strips, with the bussard collectors in the front of the filler places, that would fix the scale of the windows & bridge, yet keep the grapefruit spoon post TNG look.
I really don't like the placement of the bussard collectors, I would have had them on the top front of the engine/pontoons.
Doc Zolfer That would have been cool too.
What would you have thought if with rescaling of course, that the front top and bottom of the nacelles were the buzzard collectors.
well the bottom is the housing for the deflector dish, so no bussard on the underside.
Xander Gallagher Not bottom perhaps, but the top and sides of the front of the nacelles would have worked. I really wish the pontoons weren't there though. Keep it simple. No secondary hull. Saucer with a deflector dish on the front and two nacelles on top and back. If you absolutely want to have bussards on the front and nacelles in the back, clearly show the path of the ducts that connect the two on the skin. Don't just put windows and a phaser strip there like it's business as usual.
this ship is an interesting concept, but I would have done a few things differently. first, the nacelles would be coming off the back edge of the saucer, so that they line up with the position of the bussards, next instead of having two secondary hulls, I would have a single one on top, flush against the hull and a little smaller. so the ship keeps its overall shape, its just more streamlined now.
Whale space suits!! Awesome
It looks aquatic.
I didn't know Fisher-Price made Star Fleet ships.
Maybe the weird double hulls are just trying to look like Excelsior and are actually one third the size?
Looks like a TNG era Oberth Class. I feel like the ship would "work" better if it were scaled down quite a bit.
I really like this ship and boy do I got a lot to say about it, especially since I've designed a couple ships just like it.
I definitely think those two angled grey hatches on the bottom are cargo bay doors. I wish more designs had them. As for the square ones if the ship is as small as the saucer section suggests, they're probably external access to the machinery that synchronizes the warp cores, while doubling as an ejecting system for that machinery.
You joke about the blue parts being water, but on the NX-class, the blue behind the deflector was actually the water storage tanks. Don't ask me why they glow blue, I don't know, but it is on the blueprints. Though I don't know that it's specifically said anywhere, I always assumed the water was up front because they were concerned about cosmic radiation getting through the deflector, and water is pretty good at blocking it. There could be radiation-sensitive components behind those tanks on this ship as well.
Or, yannow, maybe they are pools. I wouldn't serve on a ship without a celestial swimming pool.
Getting a closer look at the undermount turret, it's definitely a static torpedo launcher. My thought is that the circular shape is actually something like a drum magazine. Both launchers share a single, large magazine due to the small size of the ship, rather than multiple small magazines. That would give you significant burst in either direction, and the drum shape allows you to reload anywhere on the magazine manually.
The Hull pod windows imply it's gigantic - but the saucer windows imply it's tiny.
I'm confused.
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But yes Bussards run fairly cold - they might have a little waste heat in them as they compress the hydrogen into a slush form for storage some heat is generated by that - however - that heat could be retained and used to convert to battery power or pushed into the ship's life support functions. But they don't have to compress the hydrogen in the Bussard that can be done inside the ship's innards.
A Manufacturing & repair ship would benefit from large bussards as would a ship with an excessive sublight operations role.
I like how it's kinda implied that the hulls can come off and perhaps achieve warp on their own - though that would imply 2 warp cores. They'd only be emergency vessels as they'd lack an easy way to refuel - short of ducting small amounts of Hydrogen around the edges of the Deflector dishes.
The joke about Bussards is that they don't even need to be on the engines at all as their feeds goes to storage tanks not into the nacelles. They could just as easily be on the ship's flanks.
Heck if those large rectangular panels on the discovery are not sensors they'd serve as a decent place for larger Bussards.
But if they are "sampling" devices they could do both I guess. The rectangular blocks could be passive harvesting devices and the cylinders on he nacelle caps could be the tractor field emitters for the fine control or harvesting of other materials. Or the field could be generated in the Nacelle caps and harvested in the "wings" - I suspect the Blue rectangles are just blue coloured sensors though. (like the Enterprise D and Excelsior have).
@ Stuart, great show man. I don’t know if you know but the ASDB has a full write up on this and Many other FAN design starships. Perhaps you could add ADSB to your footnotes and give them credit for the info. Might make your FAN ships more accurate with Speculation.
Scaling is totally off. Primary hull windows (with secondary hull windows as a reference) are about 15' tall. Bussards integrated that much into the hull would concern me. Aside from that, different design. Kinda cool.
You guys had too much fun doing that review.
I like these non-canon episodes because you guys get especially goofy.
Hey guys, as others have said, the Bradbury class design is from the Advanced Starship Design Bureau at www.trekships.org, and is associated with Bernd Schneider's excellent fan site Ex Astris Scientia (at www.ex-astris-scientia.org), and is well older than 2010.
That being said, please look into more of their ships, as the Bradbury class certainly isn't the best design they have to offer. A couple, (their Renaissance and Mediterranean class designs) have even popped up in licensed comics. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on these designs that have been kicking around for years.
But if you have to eject the nacelles for some reason, now you're left with just maneuvering thrusters to get you...back...home??
Gosh! Why on earth is this ... thing... blessed with a Trekyards episode?
I feel like the basics behind the design is interesting, but it seems to fall into the fan-material trap of "mine is bigger/better"...
Also, I believe f you're a Patreon supporter, you can request an episode about your ship.
Makes all sense. Well, people have different tastes after all.
Well, you can also just straight up commission them too!
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel...
The Basic idea hast a lot of potential. Tthe underside needs work, definitivly. Like they said, a good Mark one.
so there are crew rooms between the nacelle and the buzzards?
If its a fan design, its beem an old design, older than 2010!
I think this would be feirce with a series of turrets on a roll bar
If Fortnight did Startrek they would puke this up
Could it be a "collector ship" , mining gases via the front bussards and storing it in the dual drive sections?
Wasn't the USS Bradbury (in canon) undergoing Warp Drive tests?
It would make sense, when running an experimental high performance drive, to use multiple warp cores.
woe betide the man whose crew quarters are right next to that big red collector
Could the holes under the secondary hulls be warp core ejection ports?
Orutakawa Teng'a' but it shouldn't have two warp core
warrior 126 the Yamato class from Klingon Academy has two cores, the Prometheus has 3, 1 is an arbitrary number that is too rigid for space frames.
Looks good. Different for sure but Cool.
This is a funky looking ship.
The bussards of the nacelles are attached inside of the saucer...
*_DEATH BY RADIATION POISONING INTENSIFIES_*
Strange how I missed this one! And that it was suggested after this weeks Disco review.....hmmmmm.....OH WELL!
Has anyone noticed that everywhere on the registry number is seen on the "secondary-nac-hulls" (LOL), it's started with "NX" instead of the "NCC" like seen on the main dish/hull? That maybe the engine set ups are experimental?
And why the assumption that these are precisely USS Excelsior secondary hulls just being repurposed? I don't see that at all at first look. They are made for another ship, yes, possibly.
Has anyone spoken with the designer" It would be nice with these fan designs that we did get the exact answers AFTER the two of you use your knowledge to make logical guesses.
I do like it.....a lot. I can see this coming after the Defiant to once again make a fast, adaptable, BORG killing machine.
Oh yeah, the bridge module feels so protected and secure there where it's put.
I think this could a be a assault transport, to sit in orbit of a planet landing troops. Provide if fire support and the sensors on the bottom of the saucer providing command and control. In peace time it could be used has follow up survey ship after a new planet is discovered and charted. Carrying geologist and other sciences and launching probes
What if this ship was designed to be buoyant and float on the surface of large bodies of water like oceans? In which case it doesn't necessarily need landing struts.
I like it, it's creative, but...it needs a lot of work.
Flip it upside down and it looks much better in my opinion.
Yes, how does bussard collectors work?
Why do you assume, that windows have all the same size? And why do you assume, that the windows always align with a single deck / one deck one line of windows? (talk about scaling)
This ship doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It does try to be something different and I do appreciate that aspect of it.
its a harpoon gun. hunt the whales, not enclose them. (joke)
Would,ve been nice if you had given Advanced Starship Design Bureau some credit--also, if you're using ASDB and/or JoAT as source material, either site has waaayyyyyyy better designs.
Off topic but have you guys seen the ST:Discovery news?
yes, cant get away from it haha!
That's an.....interesting design. smh
Ship specs can be found here - www.trekships.org/bradbury.htm
Now why name a ship after him when he turned down writing for star trek back then more than 50 year's ago
Would of been way better with a single Hull not unlike the sovereign.
I would describe this ship as....chubby
The U.S.S. Trisomy 21
looks like something from ROGER RABBIT or a turd from BSG
Weird kitbash.
this ship might be dangerous to operate its engineering principals are too screwy for me
Don’t see any Impulse engines .... Movement between the ‘pontoons’ is awkward
Oh, there they are.. works for me then.
It's like the 2001 Ford Crown Victoria, just a big, gentle bubble. 2/10
Interesting = wtf at 0:43 and 1:03
More info on her... www.trekships.org/bradbury.htm
I like it :D
I don't like when nacelles are connected to the rest of the ship this way. Not a fan of this design.
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That is one ugly ship!
Probably the worse ship ever
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Sorry but I don't like it at all. It makes no sense to me. It is not pretty. Even considering it as not in the Star Trek universe it is ugly
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I'm sorry but thats an ugly ship in my opinion