Yes..this is true, but we are not exploiting persons for clicks. Only those who believe there is a cause and effect dealing with the Triangle! Please give us advice as we did struggle over the thumb nail, what would you advise? Our primary goal is safety at sea. How was the rest of the content?
@@ministryofsailing The thumbnail is fine and the video is very informative. Everyone on youtube uses "click bait" it's the new norm. If you don't also use it then your videos will get less views. This video has integrity and the more people who view it the better. keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about the haters.
I don't know the details of the Farr 56 sailboat, but a lot of boat manufacturers today are using "pan construction", completely blocking access to parts of the hull. So I would add to this video the conclusion "Never go offshore in a boat where you don't have access to every single part of the hull". Again, no idea if Farr 56 is built this way or not, so it's not a dig at this boat.
I believe this was a pan built boat. And although this could have been a contributing factor, the water intrusion had a 45 minute head start. Depth of the water at that point made it difficult to see the inside of the hull. We recommend using a basic rubber mats for damage control. With a few strips of wood and screws, one can make significant progress in preventing intrusion of water. The mats also can mold around a pan rib if needed.
@@ministryofsailing We had a aluminum sailboat built in northern France, a Boréal 47 and sailed it around the European west coast into the Med, then the Canary Islands for Antigua... through the Caribbean, up into the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas... then covid struck and we high tailed it to Ft Lauderdale, packed up and had our sailboat shipped to Vancouver BC Canada in May of 2020.... been here since. Kinda messed up our adventure but nice having her here now exploring all the BC coast.
glad to hear all are safe. live and learn doesn't work if you can't manage the stay alive part of learning from mistakes. there is no safe substitute for experience at sea.
Correct this is possible now. We need to develop training around these devices as well. The problem is with many performance boats, (over 30 knots) there wont be a lot one can do to avoid.
Often, overseas they use other local channels. But it all worked out in the end. Remember, the throw of the radio is line of sight and a hand held on the deck has less of a throw.
The narration at 11:01 : ..... at the rate of 3,200 gallons per minute .... Even the fire brigade would have a problem with that standard :) And please, stop the nonsense about the Bermuda triangle.
We scrolled the word oops in there and corrected it with text, we are very happy that you watched this and we hope you found some of it useful. Sorry about the BT. We struggled with it, but figured that most people would understand it had nothing to do with it. Although, I saw Bigfoot last week…. It was the same day I saw a ufo!
The only thing that's unique to the Bermuda Triangle is that for the last 75 years there have been a few reports of clouds of millimeter sized bubbles rising upwards, possibly from the the ocean floor. A boat's weight might exceed the weight of the oxygenated water under it, and sink. But this probably can't explain the loud bang. One thing that can explain a loud bang is a collision with an object, even a log or a piece of wood that might have got torn off a dock during a storm, and this could even have some metal edges or nails protruding from it.
@@ministryofsailing For sure. Just recently it has been alleged that a family yacht was sunk by Orca's off the coast of Portugal. It's probably still on some YT channel, if you are interested.
Thank for so nicely explain it ,i wanted post such resume myself ,you did it better than,i am currently with 9 North Pacific yacht delivery,one florida to guam,one australia to japan ,150 deliveries within japanese waters ,numerous asia yacht deliveries,europe to japan ,and many more,i would say seen it all and storm trash at sea ,bad conditions yacht that no one would deliver i did it handle it ,etc etc ,one must always be prepared for the worse scenario.
but you said they had AIS running and could see other boats. Hitting the AIS distress on your AIS or plotter sends out an AIS distresss signal to the other boats. Has nothing to do with VHF.@@ministryofsailing
Another POV of the event : ruclips.net/video/YXL94oOkqvs/видео.htmlsi=eJHpLdWuOys58rvz Glad we there on time. Made such great friends on this occasion. Every time we make a stopover in Bermuda now it calls for a reunion with the EDCIV and Monterrey crew ;)
Max, I am so happy that you were there as well. The efforts we all make for safety can often go understated. Your teams' actions are truly heroic, and my hat goes off to you. I really like as you are approaching Monterey, you reminded you team to secure themselves first, before they help someone else. Its so important not to become the second victim. Then two years later we meet when I was on the V65 and we barged you at the start. I think I owe you a beer for that one. Thanks for your comment and following. Episode 103 will be a sad case we can all learn from.,, last tragedy from the Newport Bermuda.
Not really, I think there are shifts that people just get tired. But the speed of the vessel filling up was fast. She was gone in hours, for a 56 foot, that’s a lot of volume. Because of this incident, the OSR s require a 3200 gPH minimum now.
@@ministryofsailing or regulations, or not, pumps should always be sized for the size of the vessel, any jackass knows that. Blame the triangle if that's where you logic leads you. I blame the captain
Saying that The Bermuda Triangle caused this yacht to sink is nothing but click bait.
Hate the game not the player
Yes..this is true, but we are not exploiting persons for clicks. Only those who believe there is a cause and effect dealing with the Triangle! Please give us advice as we did struggle over the thumb nail, what would you advise? Our primary goal is safety at sea. How was the rest of the content?
Did you note the actual footage in the notes and card in the 9th minute?
@@ministryofsailing The thumbnail is fine and the video is very informative. Everyone on youtube uses "click bait" it's the new norm. If you don't also use it then your videos will get less views. This video has integrity and the more people who view it the better. keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about the haters.
jfc are you serious ? No rational person thinks that from the title.
Glad I found this channel.
Thanks… appreciate the subscription
There are adapters for many handheld VHF raidios to connect to your base's antenna. I used one at times doing SAR on land.
Thanks, Offshore Special Regulations have this as a requirement in some offshore races.
I don't know the details of the Farr 56 sailboat, but a lot of boat manufacturers today are using "pan construction", completely blocking access to parts of the hull.
So I would add to this video the conclusion "Never go offshore in a boat where you don't have access to every single part of the hull".
Again, no idea if Farr 56 is built this way or not, so it's not a dig at this boat.
I believe this was a pan built boat. And although this could have been a contributing factor, the water intrusion had a 45 minute head start. Depth of the water at that point made it difficult to see the inside of the hull. We recommend using a basic rubber mats for damage control. With a few strips of wood and screws, one can make significant progress in preventing intrusion of water. The mats also can mold around a pan rib if needed.
My guess is that they hit a semi-submerged shipping container. They are more common than you would think in that part of the sea.................
Difficult to say, but thanks for watching
One of the most likely causes
Another great video with excellent commentary.
We appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching. Our goal is safety. Where do you sail?
@@ministryofsailing We had a aluminum sailboat built in northern France, a Boréal 47 and sailed it around the European west coast into the Med, then the Canary Islands for Antigua... through the Caribbean, up into the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and the Bahamas... then covid struck and we high tailed it to Ft Lauderdale, packed up and had our sailboat shipped to Vancouver BC Canada in May of 2020.... been here since. Kinda messed up our adventure but nice having her here now exploring all the BC coast.
@@davidzaharik5408 sorry your dream was crushed.. keep sailing, it keeps you you g
@@ministryofsailing Thanks man
glad to hear all are safe. live and learn doesn't work if you can't manage the stay alive part of learning from mistakes. there is no safe substitute for experience at sea.
Thanks for the comment
Great video!!!
Thanks. It’s our hope that you can use this for you and those you sail with. Where do you sail?
There are always things to think about. Thanks…
Thanks
$100,000 worth of electronics and can't install a $100 bilge alarm.
How hard is it to have a bilge alarm high in the bilge?
Kind of
A forward facing sonar that alarms before you feel and hear the big bang could help also. Sounds like they hit a partially submerged container.
Correct this is possible now. We need to develop training around these devices as well. The problem is with many performance boats, (over 30 knots) there wont be a lot one can do to avoid.
On a vhf set, if you push the ch16 button, it automatically switches to high power.
Often, overseas they use other local channels. But it all worked out in the end. Remember, the throw of the radio is line of sight and a hand held on the deck has less of a throw.
Thank you, great vid.
Very welcome
Poor guys. Now that is a proper skipper 👍
Thanks for watching, your comment leads me to think you watched 101. I appreciate it.
@@ministryofsailing yes I had and man that “skipper” should be put in jail for being completely clueless😂
The narration at 11:01 : ..... at the rate of 3,200 gallons per minute ....
Even the fire brigade would have a problem with that standard :)
And please, stop the nonsense about the Bermuda triangle.
We scrolled the word oops in there and corrected it with text, we are very happy that you watched this and we hope you found some of it useful. Sorry about the BT. We struggled with it, but figured that most people would understand it had nothing to do with it. Although, I saw Bigfoot last week…. It was the same day I saw a ufo!
@@ministryofsailing
Thank you for the answer. The video was very interesting and I give it a thumb up, subscribed to your channel.
The only thing that's unique to the Bermuda Triangle is that for the last 75 years there have been a few reports of clouds of millimeter sized bubbles rising upwards, possibly from the the ocean floor. A boat's weight might exceed the weight of the oxygenated water under it, and sink. But this probably can't explain the loud bang.
One thing that can explain a loud bang is a collision with an object, even a log or a piece of wood that might have got torn off a dock during a storm, and this could even have some metal edges or nails protruding from it.
It could have been something biological too. Thanks for your comment.
@@ministryofsailing
For sure. Just recently it has been alleged that a family yacht was sunk by Orca's off the coast of Portugal.
It's probably still on some YT channel, if you are interested.
Thank for so nicely explain it ,i wanted post such resume myself ,you did it better than,i am currently with 9 North Pacific yacht delivery,one florida to guam,one australia to japan ,150 deliveries within japanese waters ,numerous asia yacht deliveries,europe to japan ,and many more,i would say seen it all and storm trash at sea ,bad conditions yacht that no one would deliver i did it handle it ,etc etc ,one must always be prepared for the worse scenario.
Do you have any idea what you ran into?
No idea
@ministryofsailing most likely be a sea container.
Why did they not use the AIS emergency button to alert the other boats?
The handheld did not have one.
but you said they had AIS running and could see other boats. Hitting the AIS distress on your AIS or plotter sends out an AIS distresss signal to the other boats. Has nothing to do with VHF.@@ministryofsailing
@@BobClements-wy7mc AIS transmitters and receivers can be different functions.
It's a bridge too Farr to conclusively solve this.
Correct.
Do they know what they hit?
No idea
Glitch at the 10:55 mark.
We saw that… working on an edit, but it’s difficult once posted.
Another POV of the event : ruclips.net/video/YXL94oOkqvs/видео.htmlsi=eJHpLdWuOys58rvz
Glad we there on time. Made such great friends on this occasion. Every time we make a stopover in Bermuda now it calls for a reunion with the EDCIV and Monterrey crew ;)
Max, I am so happy that you were there as well. The efforts we all make for safety can often go understated. Your teams' actions are truly heroic, and my hat goes off to you. I really like as you are approaching Monterey, you reminded you team to secure themselves first, before they help someone else. Its so important not to become the second victim. Then two years later we meet when I was on the V65 and we barged you at the start. I think I owe you a beer for that one. Thanks for your comment and following. Episode 103 will be a sad case we can all learn from.,, last tragedy from the Newport Bermuda.
Always a pleasure John ;) Looking forward to that beer and catching up on sailing.
@@ministryofsailing
It should read incompetence sinks boat in Bermuda triangle
Not really, I think there are shifts that people just get tired. But the speed of the vessel filling up was fast. She was gone in hours, for a 56 foot, that’s a lot of volume. Because of this incident, the OSR s require a 3200 gPH minimum now.
@@ministryofsailing or regulations, or not, pumps should always be sized for the size of the vessel, any jackass knows that. Blame the triangle if that's where you logic leads you. I blame the captain