So the only thing I didn't like about the video was the comparison to jk, I don't think it was necessary, but about his voice I mostly agree. Jimin is my bias, and I'm saying this because I want to see him improve. I think the problem is not only jimin, but big hit too, like even when they record in studio, the producers and the ones who work there, they seem to give to ignore the mistakes he makes or how he struggles. I mean, if you see your artist having problems singing or using the wrong technique, you should tell him, it's not a bad thing, you only help him. Jimin didn't get the vocal lessons he needed, and it also seems that even the members give him some advices on how to sing, which shouldn't happen, like, if it's an advise on how to sing a verse ok, but on how to sing in general nope. It's like they ignore this problem, it's 2021 and, yes from the debut, he really improved, but not how someone should have improved in all those years. I'm sad sometimes, because when I see a performance, and jimin's it's coming, I always hope he doesn't make any mistakes. Usually no one talks about it, but there is one youtuber, I'm not going to say his name, who always says the truth, not only about jimin, but if he heard someone making mistakes, he is going to tell you. One last thing is that we had this covid pandemic and unfortunately that means, for them, no concerts or other things, and I'm not saying they didn't do anything during that period, because they did a lot of performances in various shows, but, as they said, their schedule was a little more lighter, so they had more time for themselves, and someone practiced and other things, and I'm wondering why during that time jimin didn't have any vocal lessons(or maybe he did, I don't know), like it was the perfect occasion, they had this kind of pause( more time), I really don't understand. I hope this "problem" is going to be fixed. I really want to see jimin more proud and secure about his voice, because he has such a beautiful and unique voice.
@@sabramohamed129 Finally someone who agrees with me, I don't want to make this a huge problem, but the fact that they didn't fix this situation yet, makes it a huge problem. I'm not saying jimin is old, but at his age and the fact that he's a singer(for like 8 years now), mean his voice should be "stable" already, like he has his sound and he knows how to use his voice.
@@김유리-p9b thank you🤝 I hate that is a taboo argument, ignoring all of this it's not going to make anything better, it's not like jimin is going to sing better just like that. And It's not like we're offending him saying those things, but I want him to be comfortable and confident when it comes to singing, I'm not saying that the other members sing better than him, but you can see the difference.
I totally agree with most of what you said but when you say that she/he should not compare the members with each other I do not agree comparison is a very important part when do an analysis and comparing the members between them is the most reliable comparison that we can make because they share the same musical background if we had compared him to a gospel singer like avery wilson yes, there it would have been problematic because they did not receive the same musical education and if we compared him to other k-idols it would also be badly advised because all the agencies do not train their singer in the same way and when bts was still in period of training Bighit really didn't had a lot of money to pay them the best voice coaches so even when they come from the same industry they do not all debut with the same advantage which will influence their ability to sing, dance in the futur BUT now that Bighit is rich enough to go buy three HUGE buildings and they also have more time with quarantine so they should had to work on that but sadly they didn’t.
Ok im here in 2024 coz i was missing them... And the fact that out of their 11 yr career, we could only find 2min of clips with mistakes 😂 proves how great they are. Ps: for haters who are saying that these aren't all of their bad clips, show me just 1hr or even just half an hour clips of them giving poor performance.
The literal truth. Some of these are when they are exhausted after performing and sick. BTS is also human. They are not perfect. But this video being of only two minutes can clearly say that they are near perfection. This video is made by a solo stan for sure.
@@SieMiezekatzeImagine being 10yrs into their career with thousands of live performance with complex choreos, doing them sick and with sound issues,insane schedule behind you and all of ur mistake can only add up to 3 MINUTES! This clrly shows how talented they are,only has 3/4 mistakes in 10+ yrs career!? Isn't it insane?And this vdo is made by a solo stan who clrly Didn't add the moment where jk was out of pitch or cracked(now dont tell me he didnt miss cz i've proof or go and search just like u searched bts can't sing to write hateful cmnt), who has no idea what vocals or vocals techniques are how they work! Before pointing ur fingers at them "just search ur fav voice crack/straining moment for once on yt" i hope then You'll will understand It's too normal for any artist to do any mistake! How inhuman you can be for declaring anyone unworthy just bcz of 3min mistake while they have 10+ live singing career with insane numbers of fanbase! WE'RE NOT BLIND!WE DEFINITELY NOT GONNA STAN AN ARTIST WHO DOESN'T HAVE TALENTS! Bts is still improving, still they are working hard to make themselves better, alas! We can't appreciate at their achievement...
Imagine being 10 years into your career with thousands of LIVE performances with very complex choreos, doing them sick and with sound issues, and insane schedules behind you, and all of your mistakes can only add up to 3 minutes! Of course this video is made by a solo stan who has no idea what vocals or vocal techniques are or how they work.
@@lalalopsy5966 oh I definitely have you clearly haven't not even close. BTS have the most relevant live performances of any group like tiny desk, and BBC radio aka shows only real vocalists get invited to. Jimin's vocals are preferred by many vocal coaches and professional artists like Ailee one of the best k-pop vocalists who said that his vocals are her favorite and she'd like to collaborate with him. People often describe his voice as angelic which is true. Just listen to the song let me know where he hit that difficult high note at the end so beautifully that it became the highlights of the song
@@sarahomar8351I'm not trying to hate here Fr, but those 'many vocal coaches and professional artists' prefer his studio vocals, not his live vocals. Yes he does sound fine on recorded songs, but live?... Oh well
@@bridgetgodwin7310 No they don't most of them commented on his vocal abilities live. Again if you've watched as many BTS live performances as I have you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. You could also check out the song "Let me know" that I suggested earlier and listen to his high note on it yourself as an example.
@@bridgetgodwin7310 No they don't most of them commented on his vocal abilities live. Again if you've watched as many BTS live performances as I have you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. You could also check out the song "Let me know" that I suggested earlier and listen to his high note on it yourself as an example.
That would make sense IF this person went through every performance over 11 years and could only find 2 minutes of content. But that is not what happened.
yeah i’ve seen ppl say that jimin was sick during that time too but idrk, they might have been tired and overworked who knows, but either way they probably gave their best
bro stop the denial, armys can really make a 1 hour compilation of bts singing being below mid, but nobody would watch that, nobody would click on an hour long video of ear torture
It seems kinda wrong to compare the members with Jk, they all have strengths and weaknesses but Jk is the main vocalist and the only member who actually auditioned to sing plus got good training
I agree with you, Jimin originally is a dancer.. It is hard for him to sing given he only trained for a year before debuting, thats for sure.. I remember one time he was so sad because of his voice and he cant help but compare himself to Jk.. Anyway, I do agree he needs to improve though especially during performance but he needs support.. Still I love Jimin's voice. 😍
Everyone does mistakes even Jk does it remember during euphoria he couldn't perform well in one of the part and was crying backstage but since the channel person is a solo Stan he/she won't show Jks mistakes Ik he is the most perfect members but that's the reason sometimes people say bitter things bout Jk and then others feel that army hates him These things shouldn't be done
i’m not even a singer, i play the drums, but i’ll let you know my stance on this video. i think that people forget that bts do so many performances and tour all over the world. like with any frequently performing groups, there will always be a few performances that aren’t performed as they were recorded on the tracks that we hear on spotify and stuff. whether this is the members’ intonation (pitch accuracy) their timbre/tone (the characteristics of their voice) or even their energy or enthusiasm, i feel that we should understand they are still only humans who aren’t computers that recreate sounds on command. just an example of this - no matter how amazing you are of a musician/dancer/performer, if you do 200 performances you are definitely going to have at least one that isn’t as amazing compared to the other 199 technique wise. i think it’s healthier for us as fans to be aware of this because if we don’t, it puts an unrealistic amount of pressure on the musicians we love, especially bts. also, i don’t know if it’s right of us to compare the members in such a way because as musicians and performers i can assure you they already criticise themselves and compare enough. i hope this communicates my view well, take care army and everyone else in this comment section💜
i’m sure there are more groups than bts, it’s just this is a video talking about bts so that’s why i was mainly talking about them. i think it’s safe to say that bts are the biggest kpop group in the world, so the group you referenced may be very very busy, but no kpop group has made it as big as bts - especially in global appeal and positive influence. so as a result im not quite sure that any other group has done as many performances and large venues internationally and such. that’s what i was saying in my initial comment and how that with as many performances as they have, there will always be ones that stand out as less fluent as others. that’s how music and performing works. i get what you mean that they should consider other careers, but if you are an engineer and designed three stable bridges, just because one of them was not as efficient as the rest doesn’t mean you should disregard your whole career and become a surgeon. bts are doing amazing things right now, and they are beyond just going to stages and singing and dancing aiming to be 100% accurate to the track and please people like you. they try their best always, as we all should but we can’t expect them to be perfect all the time and then go “but look at this other artist who had this one really stable performance of a completely different song” speaking of which, as cool as that video you linked is, i’m not familiar enough with bigbang’s work to fairly discuss this, but i don’t even have to. you’re showing one performance of many that sounds and making an assessment of the whole band based on that. also, if you think that the consequence of being an idol is touring the world and then having unstable vocals, you might not be fully aware of the genuine consequences of being an idol cos i think we can all agree there’s many more than that. maybe you can become a trainee and then be in the next biggest kpop group to get a better understanding of these things than what you have now. its not necessary to understand these things, but it would help. i’ve seen that you’ve left a lot of replies in this comment section as well criticising bts. you can have opinions on these musicians and idol groups but if you go into a comment second full of army defending the musicians they love and respect, i think ur gonna have a hard time persuading them by saying bts “cant sing without auto tune😝🙈”. i do wanna say i’m thankful for you sharing your opinion tho. it’s nice to discuss these differences in opinion so i can gain more understanding of others’ opinions. however i think this is something we do disagree on. but that’s completely fine lol it’s just music groups. ty for sharing
@@아피-h5s well you and i are just consumers of their music, we only see the finished product on not the work that goes into it, so how do we know they aren’t progressing and getting better when all you see is the finished product? i know many videos where jimin jin and v all sing just in a non-treated room and sound rather nice and controlled. i don’t think anyone is going to see things from ur point of view in this comment section until you get up on stages around the world and sing and dance like bts and bigbang do. if you can’t do that yourself, i’m not sure if it’s your job to go into comment sections and say silly things about these dudes who are literally just working their job and earning money like many other ppl in the world. i think it’s best we keep our mouths shut unless we can say something with respect, especially so you don’t get attacked by army who will stand up for these dudes until the day we die. good talk though.
@@아피-h5s to be honest i’m starting to lose track of what you’re trying to say, but i know people who have a similar stance to you and i get where ur coming from, i just can’t say i agree. ty for the discussion though :)
As a former singer, it’s not easy to maintain your voice when you constantly singing from one stage to another stage..and they are not only singing,but also dancing..it’s normal when you have days when you losing your voice especially when you have to hit high notes in almost every songs like Jimin and Jin..and there could be technical issues when your earphone didn’t work so you can’t really hear your voice…my advise,pls don’t judge someone unless you have experienced what they gone through..all bts vocal lines have unique vocal characters that compliments each others..every members worked hard for their group and their fans..there will be no bts without the vocal lines and rap lines..that’s all
True but they need vocal lessons they don't get any for example Exo a big kpop group they were always from stage to stage like literally every single day and their vocals never sound like this they always were spot on still to this day they take vocals lessons even tho their great singers and can do high notes no hate to BTS I love them and they work hard and need time to rest and work on their dances rap and singing they need that time like all artists do
Enough with the technical issue. You yourself said you are singer, surely along the way you develop your skill. it's been what ? Years since he debuted are you telling me that he didn't learn anything about his voice after so many years? Frank Sinatra sang even better when he aged and Whitney Houston lost her voice not because of old age but because of vices. There are even singers who ate at their 70 and still sound great. Have you heard tom Jones sing? Let's face it he is not a natural born singer and what makes it worst is that for someone who knows that he is not a natural born singer he doesn't even make an effort to improve. After all those years of training it's as if he did not learn anything at all
As a singer myself. I know that this is not the result of bad technique. firstly, In loud environments, its hard to sing in Pitch because there so much of chaos in the Background. its not bad technique. People who sing know that everyone has those days when they dont perform as well. I Salute Artists who Tour. its not easy to sing while moving or Dancing. You cannot Judge someones Singing Based on a Few clips of their Worst perfomances.
Haha, this is the problem of solo stans. Not a new thing, we know jungkook is so good, he's the main vocalist and has to work more for his singing but it doesn't mean other members are talentless. showing some videos of voice cracking and not in good condition doesn't prove that they're not good singers. it's not easy to sing live and also while dancing. But the problem is that you (so-called solo stan) can't understand how much they invest their time into singing and bcz of their diets and all they lack in singing. You are not at that stage to judge them. I have a suggestion for you to find their hard work, watch their best vocals Instead of praising one by showing others wrong. but no why would you watch their best vocals 🤣these videos can prove you wrong right!?🌝
😂😂😂you can imagine How many dislikes be on this video but sad RUclips remove the dislike count 🤣 anyway I think we should not waste our time on these dumb ass peoples.
I'm not a solo stan but it's quite clear that vocals is *not* the main focus of 3rd generation idols - instead it's hard choreographies and visuals. BTS CAN sing but they could DEFINITELY use more vocal training, especially Jimin (his vocal technique is not good at all, but he seems to be improving little by little). I am an OT7 Stan but it's quite clear (not from this video, but in general) that Jungkook and J-Hope have the best technique, especially J-Hope (the guy never sounds out of breath and always delivers amazing vocals 😲). For Taehyung, the keys of the songs are almost always too high for him, but he tries his best anyways. Jin has great vocals too, but HYBE does not have enough faith in him to trust him without autotune (which is quite sad, because he has a very beautiful voice). There is always room for improvement, guys. You can see the truth and love all 7 boys anyways. No need for animosity 💜
Jimin is my bias, and I do agree on parts that his voice is the one that easily gets strained especially when they are having world tour, in case you don’t know he talked about it already and it has something to do with his tonsils saying that its really bigger than the normal size which causing his voice to easily get strained, and recently he has been doing vocal lesson which I’m hoping that would help give him a better technique. His voice for me is really the most captivating unique and healing, besides being a genius performer on stage. He shines in everything he does these mistakes for me are just normal can’t even bring down on how great he is. Now that they are having solo projects I’m looking forward of what he can bring cause all of his songs are masterpiece. His charisma, stage presence, performance level, persona and passion will always be his strong points which can carry anysong given to him… looking forward to Park Jimin the performer only hyper critical, jealous, and bitter person will say he is not good and lacking. Park Jimin is more than enough.
📢JUST READ MY OPINION ONCE PLZ, A SINGER can't cope their vocals with every songs, You'll see some songs need special high or low tone,chest voices,adlibs,falsetto and so many breathing techniques..songs like On, boy with luv jimin's part,bs&t jimin's part, fake love,louder than bomb,lie black swan etc songs are very difficult, really very difficult.. Jin can't sing every song well,For example,You'll notice jin can sing 'take two' song very well,,he is even given more lines in that song...Jk or v or jimin can't be that much good like jin in those parts,i Don't remember in which songs but jk Once told "It's time to make jin main vocalist" why would he say that if jin were that bad? for V he is a baritone singer and has a raspy voice,You'll see in some vlive jk tried to sing V's song but Couldn't do it... I'll provide you link if you can't blv, for jimin obviously he Doesn't have that vocal training so his voice got strained i know,but his songs are really hard to sing,,in full group, i found jimin's part very difficult, he both has soft and high tone,listen butterfly jimin's part are so smooth, and i find jimin's pronouciation in singing a lot better in singing (like he sings in a smooth,hot way, i can't explain) his singing techniques are not good actually, serendipity is a song ONLY JIMIN CAN SING, in a live performance jimin's voice shaked cz he got nervous becz of a stage arrangement (he was in a bubble,he tried to blow it but Couldn't, so It's natural to become nervous) his voice shaked but Didn't miss the tone,here is the link: ruclips.net/user/shortsqP_urdU6Nrs?si=_LaW_bSW4xhGZBc2 And we all know jk is a born singer, he pushes himself so hard,he loves singing actually.. What I'm trying to say they are NOT BAD SINGER! THEY JUST CAN'T ADJUST WITH EVERY TONE THEY'RE GIVEN,, on,fake love,lie,serendipity, louder than bombs alot of songs has some part which are not in bts's capabilities... Still they tried..jin can sing very well, he practiced with V 'It's definitely you' song, check behind the scenes they both sang live! This type of song are easy to sing for them actually, they had done it very well! Did you listen V's solo song? Aren’t those songs are way too different than these grp songs!? Just answer me with honesty!!. Plz Don't discourage them,they have endured alot,they still are doing things which are not even their capabilities, we should appreciate them, You Don't appreciate when they do well but always criticise and give tons of hate when they do any mistakes,WHY???
@@aenabillera when you only want to hate them, what else can be expected!? At least they Don't lip sync like your fav,so obviously You'll defame most talented ones,, YOU ppl are real lifeless
I'm here in 2024 and wondering. Jimin, and in fact, most of BTS members were never meant to be singers and dancers. JK is the only original vocalist in the whole team. Jin and Jimin had to LEARN singing. RM, and Suga had to LEARN dance. Jhope had to LEARN rap. Literally all of them had to LEARN to be the magnificent all-rounders they are today. Hence, they are the biggest boy band in the world. So, I'll take your all of 2min of vocal mishaps because...11years later and they still remain on top.
fans have to change mindset about the idols, they are total package and not just best singer, best dancer...i completely stan JK but to compare his skills toward other BTS member is inappropriate, for me they shine all on their own ways. Aa a new army and a former local band vocalist, im not surprised that i immediately picked out JK among the rest but looking back, i cannot see any other member less deserving of the group fete since they all work very hard and as said contribute to the fame of BTS
Its not really about whose best singer or best dancer. Its just as a standard is set for idols, its not like if someone with not so good vocals is gonna blow and become famous or be sign to a lable on normal terms. Jimin is my bias for years but he does need some help like idk how ibighit didnt notice that
the last video is in the middle of the tour concert. jimin carried after that song because he was disappointed by himself. that season he was sick at throat. but jimin always tries to be improved himself. so Don't compare to JK
I'm a jk bias but i know jungkook is the main vocalist you know something jimin voice like a angel when he sing . Real army do not compare their voice each other
Its not really about whose best singer or best dancer or just comparing voices. Its just as a standard is set for idols, its not like if someone with not so good vocals is gonna blow and become famous or be sign to a lable on normal terms. Jimin is my bias for years but he does need some help like idk how ibighit didnt notice that. There are lead singers with stable voices even if their not on the level as main vocal hence the term lead vocal. For example Exo Lay, suho, xiumin or nct jaehyun, yuta(which for a lead his voice really good) and jungwoo. I get that we love these guys as there humans but its not alien to have expectations of "talent" from idols
I'm jk bias but I know jungkook is the main vocalist and do you know when jimin sings a song he's voice will be like an angel and don't do any comparison between that Seven Heros
Actually if just want to talk about the negatives ofcourse every one has. But jimins high notes are on another level he proved it in let me know and many other songs. Jin epiphany live and his falsetto was awsom. V his soulful voice is soo gud .so we should mention their talents too not just the negatives.
I am not an army but as a singer, I know how difficult is to sing in front of lots of people. Rather, they have such big concerts, there is so much pressure. You should not forget they're artists and doing their work with dedication. I respect them a lot not just because they are a very big boy band but because they inspire a lot of people, they're humble people, dedicated to their work, love their fans, and appreciate other artists as well. Not only one Quality can make someone famous they're good with others that's why people love them however they are their fans or any random viewers. This 2 min video doesn't prove anything. And don't compare artists to other artists. Respect everyone! I don't think you are capable to judge them like this 🙂
You have dhadak dp. And you know the female singer is Shreya Ghoshal. She can sing constantly for hours with pitch accuracy. Which includes Indian classical, sad songs, low note songs, pitchy songs , high note songs. That's what make her a legend not her look. If I go to a singing concert I would like to listen original vocals rather than he or she dance or not.
The content is all about singing and does want to point out things that the idols need improvement, you as a singer knows how music works. And most of the "fail attempts" are at the start of the song, they are still not dancing', if they are nervous or sick then they already do this kind of things for many years right? It's not an excuse if they want to sing properly. If YOU SAY I ONLY SEE THEM AS SINGING AND DANCING MACHINE, pls don't. Cause they want to perform their very best then they should show their fans the best' the practice for many hours right?
Please judge them as a singer not with how you point things based on what the society wanted you to do. You are not helping them YOU ARE TOLERATING THEM
You guys really don't know how talented and beautiful Jin's vocals are. And Jimin with his unique sultry voice in a song appropriate for him is remarkable. Taehyung with his baritone makes it difficult for him to keep up with the other three vocals with higher pitch. But still he is a talented singer.
@@elizaramsey9748 baritone singers have one of the lowest ranges my dear . Because of their deep voice they can't touch high notes like jk rosé baekhyun lily and other soprano singers . They are resistant to their born with range .
@RORA786 I'm a very experienced vocal coach of 30 years 'my dear' and know very well what a baritones range is. Taes range spans across all possible octaves for a male voice. Eg in Stigma and more. He has a deep sound in all areas. X
Let's be honest! I love listern to music, so this caught my eye. I can honestly keep a tune, sang in fine choirs right throughout school, and there are some days I sound flat and tired to myself. You don't always sound perfect. I once went to a mother / daughter tea event and the singer who is totally tallented went off too. We can all hit an off note. Sometimes even Demash Kudaibergen sounds a bit off in my ears. We all have natural boi-rhythms.
@@LexiD-zx6bf you are right. I never argued with any army. If they don't comment "BTS best vocalist, jungkook vocals are fire in we don't talk anymore , jimin has a angelic voice, etc etc" I listened 10 times that we don't talk anymore performance. But everytime I found something more common as average singers.
I sing (with professional lessons, a teacher, etc) and have to say that after some time your voice does slip or get cracks. It is normal, especially if you sing in a different key than your “normal” singing voice (like Jimin does). Through forcing it eventually hurts your throat. I mean, yes, they sometimes sound off-key but they’re singing live and giving their best so I think we are not in the position to say they are bad singers or can’t sing. 💜
@@afifahdiyah9903 that’s not really true, they can. However they probably always use support when they are performing on stage because you can’t really sing while jumping and spinning like crazy. So I think it‘s even more impressive when you hear them sing for real because one‘s voice tends to sound off key while doing fast moves.
@@afifahdiyah9903 Gosh, sure, sometimes even stars have voice cracks. But what to you want to proof? All I said is that it is normal to occasionally sound off key. Singing in an uncomfortable pitch for a longer period of time can make your throat sore and your voice crack. And the Jk clip where he recorded Euphoria? That’s *normal*. You try to get the right melody for a song a few times, even try a variation of the original melody. So it‘s not gonna sound like the final recording. I still think we, their fans, should not judge them in a disrespectful way but support them when they improve.
İt's because mostly bts use backup tracks with autotune on in their mics during live performance. These are the clips where the backup track was not there neither the autotune Just except it already except Jungkook neither of the vocalist can sing at a professional level.
@@filza_rashdi4955 Their concerts say otherwise. Just accept it. You're a lame hater with no life, sitting on your couch or wherever and hating on ppl with talent for their fails from their 11 years of experience. This vid is 2 mins. BTS can sing.
@@pooja3748really ? Go watch some other clips too... Why only hating on him after just these few clips ? They have performed at least ten thousand times... Jimin's voice is soo soothing and angelic. Jins voice is just a heaven. V's voices is praised and appreciated by a lot.... Y'all should just stop hating on them.
they have sing a THOUSAND times where they did amazing, yet this is a video with few moments. So, that means they still awesome. You don’t have to jump to conclusions for bad moments bc you are being unfair to their hard work. Let them make mistakes, let them be bad sometimes, after all, they are humans. We don’t want them to be perfect, bc it doesn’t exist. Plus, this channel is called “Jungkook Shining Solo”😭🤡 lmao
The problem that this video shows is how damaged the flow of their vocal become, especially in Jimin case. Yeah, mostly it's just videos where they have bad condition, but don't forget that there might be regression through out the years they have been singing. Bighit somehow put too much pressure on their shoulders, then in one moment they came to state were they have to force themselves to heat certain note It's not hate, I'm an army since 2015, it's the year when I fell in love with unique vocals of Jimin and Taehyung, but seeing them suffer because of lack of good vocal coaches in bighit makes me feel upset and disappointed. I'm still hopping to see them back in state, when they can get the flow naturally 😌
Yeah you're absolutely right How many songs and how many times they are performing they are also having health issues so it's a small mistake no need to spread this as theirs vocals are bad....
I am not a professionally trained vocal coach or anything but i am a lowkey singer Ngl if you have a good singing voice doesn't actually mean you would always sound like that Sometimes we lose stability and get voice cracks K pop idols does rigorous practice and it will certainly affect your voice when you sing for a long time Its just my opinion No hate no shade too the creator
The problem is that jimin wasn't even dancing in most of his horrible performances. There are more than what's in this video, so it's something consistent with him. There's a reason why people on TikTok joke that he has a goat voice. He is a very talented dancer but he lacks in singing. I don't hate BTS. I just hate it when people hype them so much as if they're the best there ever was. What makes it worse is when army comes to their defense and insist that he's just sick, or tired. There's another kpop group and one member's voice cracked when singing live. The fandom roasted him, but it's all good for everyone. That's how I would've wanted army to react in the first place.
I understand the comments saying its hard to sing live and whatnot, but they’re idols, its their job. They’ve been in the industry close to 10 years now ans have trained for longer. By this time they should’ve been proficient. But they aren’t, while many rookies are better. Thats the issue. Didn’t Jungkook say they haven’t had vocal lessons in years? yeah they need them, badly😭
Constructive criticism is good but it has become so these days that even if the person being criticized improves afterwards, the people can't accept the fact. They have improved a lot and these are just few moments..there are plenty of moments where they have sang beautifully and amazingly....u can search that on youtube too....😶 We can't ignore the fact that they actually have sung very well in live performances most of the times... these are just some times when they couldn't...yea that's it hehe ...am not shouting or u know throwing my opinion on u it's u and ur choice in the end anyways just told what I was feeling like 🪄❤
@@sydnistar they are idols that can make mistake but certainly not in singing. Can you tell me what the basic skill set should a singer have? Singing... It's a basic skills set and if you have trained for years and work several years after your training years as a professional singer you should already have mastered your voice. Would you even hire an engr that can't even use a meter stick correctly or hire a dentist whose can't even identify an incisor vs molar? I guess not right? So singer should sing and he/she should sing better than any average person.
@@onlyhyuk umm what about armys here? It's about bts here....😅...I guess I didn't understand what you were trying to ask ....can u please explain ur question if u don't mind...eh hehe 😅😅
your comment has sense, if you want to improve your skills, just learn how to do it, start doing it. But I don't feel like I want it to happen, I already like how they sing... :)
Reason is when dancing your chest is closed and that causes something called strain and it’s not that he sounds bad always this bitch just picked bad clips
1. You are not a professional singer you don't have any right to give "opinion" 2. He is a singer for reason and why people all over the world love him and why is his song at the top in billboard the reason? HIS VOICE
Jungkook voice always remian stable. Yeah he can miss lines but never miss the tune, beat . Whatever he sings hears to be heavenly. That's the main thing And it's okay not every performance has to go good. We stan bts we love them it's okay they do mistakes they are human being. Respect them
bts is one of my favorite bands but the reality is that after listening and seeing exo and btob sing and dance live I feel like there is no excuse. I used to think that they are very tired, etc. but the reality is that I feel that taking jk out, none of them are born singers, that is, they are people who learned to sing, so they have to constantly work on their voice.
so what is so great about being a born singer? That just means the talent was handed over to you without any effort from your side. This argument is pretty stupid. The video actually proves that Bts always sings live, even when they know their voice may crack. Look at the kpop nowadays. Hardly anybody sings live, cracks or not. And this video is just a few stages from the hundreds of live stages Bts has performed at, so it proves nothing except that Jimin needs to take care of his voice and stop straining it.
@@nida5536 you are talking things from ignorance, being born with the ability to sing doesn't take away any merit, they were simply born with that talent, their singing comes naturally to them, they know how to use their voice and because there is also an anatomical part of their vocal cords and capacity breathe that makes them great singers. Second, you are very wrong in saying that they don't make any effort, they also train with vocal coaches and they also make an effort just like any singer. The fact that a person needs to work more on their voice doesn't take credit away from someone who comes out more easily. A person who was born with that ability has the same merit as one who was not. Being a born singer means having a good vocal technique, nothing has to do with their voice cracking live, it happens to all singers. I give you the example of jimin, he is a born dancer and jin is not, but if I ask you who has the ability to dance naturally, surely you tell me that jimin but doesn't mean that Jin is a Bad dancer. In itself have a born talent is just that a talent, people have their own tastes, but for the person who has to carry out their ability with the voice or the body, it's important. If you are an army, you will know that Jimin suffered a lot with the sing theme, just as Jin suffered with the dance theme. that's why they have to train continuously simply because it isn't their strong point. Yeah in this generation there are few groups that sing live, why? for the same reason they are not singers, most are dancers and people who have learned to use their voice. And agencies don't waste their time letting idols take singing classes. But in 3 gen there are groups that singing in live. What the video is talking about is that they simply don't have a well-worked or strong vocal technique and that has nothing to do with them singing live. And i agree jimin needs to rest his voice but also work with a coach to help him because his voice will be damaged if he doesn't use it properly.
"On" encore stage on that music show was the most painful one to watch. From that video, I know how much JK carry BTS's vocal with his adlibs, harmonizing and hidden vocals in every BTS songs.
This comments are just embarrassing. Jimin has more than 7 years on the industry and he can't sing. Even if he didn't audition for that, he still is an idol and has the obligation to improve because he's out there labeled as a singer. And yet in the recent performances he still sounds awful . I'm a huge fan and he's my favorite 😍, but we gotta be real. They're humans and they have flaws we all agree, but there's no excuse for his lack of singing skills, when other members sound somewhat okay 👌 . They have resources, money ,time and they can hire the best coaches and still they don't do it .
Somebody ignored the the 200+ live stages where he sings pretty normal and the recent busan concert, and just chose to believe a barely 3 minute video😑 I'm amused, really
We all know bts is not on level of sm grp in vocals,but did you see their performances!? They are full package! Who Doesn't have voice crack moment for god sake? Even baekhyun has voice crack moments,, but that Doesn't make him bad singer, this vdo Didn't even have v's bad performance,, jin and jimin learned singing after joining bts,you expect them to be on sm level!? But the aura they hold in stage is just incredible! did you hear v's high note in stigma,raspy voice in mic drop, idol,boy in luv?jimin's high note in let me know,crystal snow,2!3!, adlibs in home, high note in autumn leaves,house of cards,lie,rain,Don't leave me,home,the truth untold, danger,hold me tight,tony montana,we are bulletproof pt 2..,,jk's high note in born singer,jin's triple high notes in epiphany,dinosys,crystal snow? Jin has given excellent performance in crystal snow,spring day,fake love,zero o clock,house of cards,epiphany,just one day etc,, In bts jimin hit most of the high notes,he has that voice that's why he could hit,he pulled off maximum difficult parts of their song like-blood,sweet and tears,,, danger,,louder Than bomb,house of card, and alot,,jin's voice brought me tears,if you have time plz watch their live performance on these songs i mentioned.i actually feel very bad why vocal lines of bts doesnt get proper recognition they deserve.... They might not be best,but they set a standard! Why their concert's tickets are sold out in a few min if they are bad in live performance!? Plz think before just bashing bts,why everyone wants to discredit them this much?
And on what basis are you making these claims??? This comment is an year old, and around the time his solo album came out. Yet to come concert Jimin's voice was BEAUTIFUL just like the others, there was nothing wrong and they did that goddamn concert for free. Many of his solo stages are also amazing. I dont understand how you can just broadly claim "in his recent performances he sounds awful" and not say which one you're talking about
Jimin has a sweet and angelic voice, I agree on that but he lacks consistency and technique (meaning about 70% of the time he either adds squeaks or growls and rarely sticks to the way the original is sung) . If only he could change his technique that would make him sing comfortably with ease, he would be almost as stable as jungkook and become better as a vocalist. This is my personal opinion (emphasis on PERSONAL).
Truth untold jimin was sick and they was messing about on the encore stage.... and no ones voice is going to be perfect when they perform as often as they do and they song live! You say theres been no improve yet dont post anything recent.... and there was many good performances of ON and all the songs you posted but you expect them to be perfect all the time.... definitely not an army
it was not only him among the BTS members that the voice cracks bit with this it’s all focus on him. Jimin haters. any way in a recent interview prior to his album, he stated that he took voice lessons and said he started from the basics and you can tell from his recent album
i don’t think it was a negative comparison but rather to show the difference between what strained vocal sounds like versus unstrained and clean. It was solely for demonstration and exemplary purposes only... not to say that jungkook is better but simply just to show the difference ... y’all make everything a problem lololol relax
@@jadefells8197 Jimin now knows how not to strain his voice but hit high notes at the same time. In the LA concert He showed his new vocal capabilities.
For me Jin's vocals is heaven and i never doubted his vocals and jimin's voice is so unique, you will definitely find mistakes there if gonna compare with jk but talking of jimin , he is the best dancer sometimes I got so overwhelmed and shocked of how much control he had on his body , the way he move is unreal❤
please dont compare jimin or any of the other members to each other cause they know whats best for there self's , and comparing them dosent make it any better for them.
I do agree that they especially jimin could improve vocals but most of the proof you used were not even from proper performances and some were just encore stages which don’t require serious singing
10 years since your favs are singing live Not like other kpop grps who wouldn't dare to on their microphones And got 2 voice cracks and he can't sing anymore You know Ariana Grande have voice cracks too Cause she sings live not like kpop bullish## of grps Jimin sings live in his entire career Two voice cracks are not making my boy a bad singer or doing anything at all a solo is telling me that he can't sing cause he can better then other kpop acts
The fact that both jimin and jin only learnt to sing from their trainee days ...and after a decade into this industry you can find hardly few mistakes, speaks a lot about theor hardwork and efforts....real legends ...😂😂😂...as an ot 7 i agree, jungkook is great...but so are the rest of the members, they all are equally good, everyone has a different tone & pitch, it doesn't mean Jung kook is the only best singer or they are less than jungkook!
What I am going to say is, as a army we need to understand not everyone is perfect. That's why bighit give them each role as a dancer and vocals. BTS is a very famous band and they always perform without rest than most of the kpop group. They are always on stage and performing without rest. Plus jimin have to dance and vocal too while jk is the main vocal. Plus from my experience dancing while singing is a very tiring job to do plus u have to go on multiple performances. As a jungkook solo stan you only knows about jungkook and didn't take a chance to understand more about the other members. As a fam we should stay in peace without pointing out others bias like that. You need to know as the bts saying not everyone is born to be perfect and each have a weakness.
@@jennierubyjane9321 i understand everyone kpop groups struggle but bts got into what they are now because they tried harder than anyone. We can see the amount of effort they put by watching how successful group they have become now
@@pua2504 For whom can survive to live only by someone's mistake is showing their quality life. Only miserable poeple like you! Be aware for Jimin's success then, coz you will rot! 😅🤣
Hey, I’m not a singer, I’m just a Jimin fan. I know he messes up sometimes. He knows he messes up sometimes. He’s said it on vlive that he’s going back to the basics and working on his vocals. Not trying to make excuses for him but I think the way he’s dieting and trying to stay so thin is affecting his stamina also. I actually feel so bad for him. But his voice is so unique and so beautiful (when he’s on point) it speaks to my soul. I instantly feel so peaceful when I listen to him. I’m so happy when I listen to him and to me that’s the only important thing.
So you can't tell your doctor that he messed up if he gave a misdiagnosis if you never went to medical school? Stupid logic. Are all armys as dumb as you?
(Please read it's reason). I've gone through a situation like jimin where I messed up ( I sing a lot cuz I'm good at it). The reason was that the music was way too loud and my voice literally couldn't be heard well, so I panicked and went too loud and my voice felt fking drained. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THE PERSON CAN'T SING, IT'S ABOUT TIMES AND ENVIRONMENT!
I agree that Jungkook has the most stable voice. And that sometimes Jimin's voice cracks. But still I prefer his voice personally in the vocal line. I find it more touching.
i feel bad bc most of these are jimin. in his minimoni interview abt muse, he explained that hes relearning how to use his voice bc it was damaged due to the intensity of their old songs. he also has more strain than other members bc hes the only vocalist who consistently sings in the higher register out of the vocal line. plus we also know that he didnt get proper vocal training before debut. despite this, he is still the lead vocalist with a unique vocal color. i think they can always improve, but all 4 of them are at the top of the industry. theyve proved that over the last 11 yrs.
guys it's perfectly okay for armys to still love bts but give criticism. at the end of the day it's all in hope of them improving. they're not hating on them 😭😭😭
The title of this statement is misleading, as BTS is indeed capable of singing. Having a crack in their voice or experiencing strain at times does not diminish their singing abilities. Even the greatest singers occasionally encounter such challenges. Labeling BTS as unable to sing based on these occasional occurrences is either ignorant or indicative of a biased perspective driven by negativity (i.e., being a hater). Every singer, regardless of their level of talent, can face vocal issues at times. Moreover, it's essential to recognize that while other idols may have technically better voices, BTS stands out because each member possesses a distinct and unique vocal style. This uniqueness sets them apart from others in the industry. Rather than having a common voice shared by many, each BTS vocalist has a signature quality that makes their performances exceptional. In conclusion, let's avoid making unfair judgments based on isolated instances and instead appreciate BTS for their individual vocal strengths and the remarkable artistry they bring to their music.
hunny calling the members voice off tune and strainy while calling jks voice relaxing is hating. think before u try to defend this mfs u call “army’s” 😂
This isn't cristism. On what bases are they saying this? Are they a professional singer? They took seokjin's, taehyung's and Jimin's mistakes from here and there and compared it with jungkook's? That ain't cristism, this is solo behavior lmao
this comment section failed the vibe check big time. This is why everyone hates armys cuz yall cant even take the SLIGHTEST criticism without being hurt. Gatekeeping isnt a sign of you being a good fan. She expressed her opinion of their singing which is true.
What kind of a vibe is this😂spreading hate We would have taken the criticism if it was put nice.ignoring jk’s mistakes and comparing the others with him??and did u see the title.it’s mot criticism but hate
Taehyung is a baritone and he has been forced to sing out of his comfort range for 11 years. This is only one of the rare occasions that he couldn't perform perfectly because again he has to reach the higher notes in 'ON'. But he's regarded as having the widest vocal range in the group and has been complimented by many vocal coaches. He is able to reach the lowest range while has to reach the highest note. Besides, he has done most of the growling part of the fast songs. We shouldn't forget his soulful rendition of Stigma. And if he sings jazz like It's Been Looking A Lot Like Christmas, he did this perfectly. Even the estate account of Bing Crosby fell in love with his voice. And not to forget that he could sing opera songs like a pro despite he's an amateur. Even musical directors have praised his singing.
CAUSE ITS 9 yrs now I believe and I’ve been army since 2015 and I have been noticing the strains and the voice crack since then and it been on going even till this day. Even though I say this I’m not hating on him, even though i know ur all gonna still call me a jimin hater. I’m saying this because it’s been so long since they have debuted and Jimins voice to me has always been having problems with strains, voice cracks and sometimes being unstable and some time also being off pitch when he performs. Like I said earlier it’s been 8-9yrs now and the fact he still has the problem it’s kind of concerning yeah I get people have off days but this has been a problem for more than a dozen times and to have debuted for so long I don’t think u should be having these problems which is why I think it’s very concerning. In my opinion out of all members I say jimin maybe has the weakest vocals skills, yes he could hit high notes but all of the vocalists in bts can do that and his voice is really really really high and most of the time the key in the notes are off. To the people that says it’s a technique or its unique ur obviously really biased, because of that so called “technique”, his vocal cords are gonna get damaged. Sorry but jimins vocal technique is not good. It’s obviously not all his fault cause u can tell he’s not getting the vocals treatment he needs from the vocal coaches at bighit cause when he performs with these mistakes it’s really obvious and u can hear it so idk why they haven’t done anything about it and teach him a new vocal technique. It honestly really suck cause I love his beautiful angelic voice but at time when I see his performances I just think how he’s gonna do cause yes I’m honestly really used to hearing his strained voice. I really hope he gets better vocals coaches to help him improve because i know that Jimin can sing and Ik he has his own sound and he for sure knows how to use his voice but his vocal technique needs a lot of help.
You are absolutely right! Others might think that this Video is targeting Jimin. But noo. He's got an angelic voice.. agreed! But he hasn't mastered the stability in his voice and It can really affect his vocal chords
For me his voice is angelic like literally not even kidding. Promise,serendipity and filter are living proof with many more. But I watched the online concert in which Minnie performs filter UK the recent one where he changes into stunning red and white outfits. .......the strains were even more strong there it almost felt like he was struggling... But the performance was good so it went well. I solely think he needs a vocal coach and no I'm not hating. I love him. It's not hating if you tell a person you love where they can improve.
I don't know what you three are smoking, but I haven't heard an angel sing (or even talk, or even see one) in my entire life. Jimin is a hella good dancer. That's it. He sounds like a goat giving birth when he sings. How do you know that he doesn't have any vocal coach? We don't. Maybe the talent isn't there, period. I don't stan bts but I acknowledge the fact that their rap line is good, jungkook is stable, but that's it. You'd say that this is a mere 2-minute compilation of their hundreds of performances, but I am willing to bet my brother and his girlfriend that if one would really invest some time, you'd find hundreds of bad live performances. BTS sings live? Yes, we know because they sound bad. They should consider lip-syncing because they sound THAT bad.
@@Melissa-gv4et tbh I actually do agree with you, there very popular with some good songs, but there vocal line skills is kinda lacking and there not as good as most male kpop groups today and back then. like I love BTS they what got me into kpop but it sucks for me to say that there vocal line isn’t that strong besides Jungkook and maybe Taehyung I feel like his vocal and voice is good considering he was supposed to be rapper and was trained to be a rapper but yk Jhope took his spot. Lol I always imagined what if Taehyung was part of the rap line so it would be 4 rappers instead lmao but I totally agree with what you say and there songs now is kinda ehh I hope there next comeback is in Korean cause I’m not feeling the English songs tbh. Yeah so I totally agree with you
I agree I’ve been an army since 2015 as well and jimin is and will forever be my bias however he does struggle a bit with his vocal range and strains and it’s not because he has a bad voice I think his voice is beautiful, however over the years it has gotten a bit higher so I believe he is probably struggling a bit to adjust to how his voice has changed
Guess what? Everyone has an "off" moment. BTS are humans. You give it a try. You get up in front of thousands of people when you're exhausted, stressed, sick, or injured... dance and sing for hours... for days... for weeks... on tour. See how you do.
Let me tell you ......bighit is lucky to have jimin's voice..... they don't need a girly voice in their songs as they have jimin's voice which can be hot,sexy,catchy at anytime anywhere
Although JK is overall the best singer, I prefer V and Jimin. V's baritone voice and ability to do falsettos (Sweet Night, Fix You, Love Me Again) is beautiful and interesting. When songs match his style, he's a very good singer, as seen in his Tiny Desk performance. Jimin, though not stable live, his voice is a treat in doses. Whenever his part comes on in BTS's songs, I get excited, especially when he combines his high pitch voice with a deeper tone. He contributed a lot to BTS, I think he has the second most lines in the group? Jin has a powerful voice but like JK's sounds a bit "normal".
See this performance, they are so stable! You can clrly hear their breathing sound,even the sound their outfits chain are making! ruclips.net/video/FeDBVm2uS9M/видео.htmlsi=Kflxzwz6DYztOGFN
I think this is kinda biased: 1. You just show 2 mins video with the latest performance is encore ON in Feb 2020. They have been improved much in pandemic era. 2. You have to show the good part of their vocals too. Even in another ON encore, they did great. So its not completely fair to only judge by one short clip. 3. I think its natural for singers who sing live to not always hit the right note. That's why theres always room for improvement. What sucks is singer who never show their raw vocal, always rely on backtrack or prerecorded.
Yeah coz Jimin is a dancer and got selected for his talent in dancing and he is perfect at it. Jin and V got selected for their visual , they didn't even intended to audition . Their visuals are perfect. Jimin V and Jin , they learnt to sing later. Imagine being able to sing like this in a short period of time.. And you JK solo stan , comparing them to Jk was unnecessary cause he is the main vocalist and got selected for his talent in singing , what did you expect? (No hate to Jk , I love all 7 of them equally so much) And these are few times when this happened We will never know if they were physically healthy while performing this coz they always hid their pain behind their smile and gifted perfect performances to us ARMYs as if nothing happened..
That was 7 years ago. In 7 years you must improve a lot if you have to sing, and Jimin sings a solo parts and even a solo songs. No matter what they were chosen for, now they are all singers of the number one group in k-pop industry. They can't stay where they were in 2013!
So, yk jimin solo album has already out and in episode of suchwita jimin was the guest and he talked about his voice he said that when he was recording his solo he saw a lot of mistakes clearly soo jimin said that I worked on my mistakes that he did in his vocal so while I was listening his solo I saw that he is very improved now unlike back then IDOLS ARE ALSO HUMAN, THEY CAN ALSO MAKE MISTAKE SOMETIMES DEFENDING YOUR IDOLS IS NOT GOOD IN SOME PLACES🙂
He hasn’t improved I just watched his solo encore stage 😑his vocals are trending for all the wrong reasons💁♀️and the thing is he has a vocal coach so why can’t he sing well???🤔can some people just not sing well or what🤷♀️
Cuz they spilled facts? Not shame to admit they need vocal help army shits on vocal techniques and make fun of them but this what happens when u don't have any
BTS definitely CAN sing (as everyone can sing), but they are NOT an excellent VOCALIST. Vocalist is a singer with a strong emphasis on singing techniques, which BTS vocal line lacks of (except JK). Their voices getting strained or cracked during live performances very often as they doesn't have a proper muscle and breath coordination to support their vocal cords resulting an unhealthy singing techniques. This needs to be fixed and they need more training. If this keeps happening, they may be able to damage their vocal cords completely on the long run. So, fans should really start giving concerns to them instead of always defending their mistakes. I know they are human and they are also tired, they must have been performing like tens or hundreds performances right? But what is the difference to some other K-Pop groups? There are a lot of groups who also performed a hundred times and can still sing their notes with ease without getting strained and cracked as often as BTS. This was because those singers of the groups are a healthy trained vocalist, so they know how to manage their voices and sing their lines/notes correctly with proper vocal cords support. So, even if they are tired or sick, they can still hold notes properly. Meanwhile, BTS can even get strained on a simple stages where they only sit or stand up and sing. I was a former ARMY for quite a long time and I have watched tons of their live performances so I know what I'm saying, and I'm not a hater, I'm simply being objective because I have been learning about vocal techniques. BTS vocals is also one of my reason why I unstan them because now I understand that there are a lot of groups are vocally better than them (I'm the kind of person who are interested on vocals so I stan groups with the better vocals). Even tho BTS is vocally weaker, their rap, lyric, and songs are actually really good - thus, I really respect Rap lines who produced/wrote most of their songs and each of them is also an outstanding rapper in K-Pop which is rare to find.
You are yg stan bit*h ask you girls to rap, dance and sing Cause these lack in everything they do Bruh riding on bts popularity was everything for them
@@veenasingh9837 This excuse of Jimin having the shortest training period is now old and lame. Jimin has said he began receiving vocal lessons during the pandemic. Get with the program and stop using a pre debut excuse.
@@BaibyDoll bro listen in simple words..he is not the best singer he says it himself...he is not only a singer..and mistakes happen with humans only n he is one n got more than needed critism now move on w ur life if u have one!:)
Another thing yall have to remember is all four members have their own "comfort range" which is what you'll most likely hear in their own solo songs. I personally feel that trying to get 4 members with completely different voices and comfort ranges to all sound good live 100% of the time is easier said than done.
In their 10 years u can onky find clip of 2 minutes proves how good they are😂 keep up it's actually proving their talent .... they are also humans and the best part they don't use autotunes like others learn how to repect gurl 👍🏻 armies Will always love them coz we know how precious and talented they are❤
Jin's vocals are amazing....idk why a lot people say that his vocals are bad.....for me its really comforting....i really love epiphany,awake,moon alot....so please don't compare them if you are a true army....
I think this vid is not mean to bash Jin. The one who made this just simply showcase to us that sometimes Jin is off key. But yes we still love him tho.
@@afiefswift5403 i wasn't talking only about this video....in most of the videos they do not include how powerful an angelic jin's voice is...that's what i meant
It's true that vocal lines sometimes go out of tune... But you can't say that BTS can't sing.. and you shouldn't compare them with Jungkook..I am JK stan and to me he is the bestest.. but it doesn't mean other members are not good enough... They sing pretty well.. we shouldn't compare between them.. some armies are disappointed on V for layover, I don't think he sang bad at all.. some got frustrated because Jungkook is doing so well.. duh! can't we just support them without spreading toxicity?!😪
You are saying right But one thing the army made this video "shining solo jk" Her name And you can understand her mentality nothing more to say....... Jungkook is able to perform just because of support of his hyungs And bts are shining cause they have golden maknae No one can deny this fact Every member is important they all have different roles apart from their stage performance and without each other support they can't do anything alone you can see
@@ArtistryCrafts yes it change for those people who stan bts and don't stan blackpink And also for Those who only see their favorites But let me tell you not all fans are like that
Who disappointed on layover . Only those who wanted him to be pushed again in a tenor note and sing a English note. I am really tired of people like you all you guys always just praise jk but hate v even tho they are of same level . Just cause v is a baritone . I am a 0T7 stan but atleast v has a organic sucess over his album . Jk is just overpromoted by hybe . They not even gave a quarter of jk promotion to all members combined
Most of this is because of their hard work and training plz don't hate jimin...😢they are so strained from their work......and most of idols who covers bts songs can't hit the pitch that jimin sings❤❤❤
This is toxicity at one of the highest level for someone claiming to be an army. Yall should remember that they are still people and they have the mistakes just like everyone. And personally im glad that they arent afraid of making mistakes in public where people like you can just takes those mistakes and exacerbate them cause at the end of the day they sit down and reflect on their performances so that the can fix whatever mistake they made. "thou who has no sin shall cast the first stone" the bible says.
@@filza_rashdi4955 hence i said im glad that they make those mistakes cz you cant learn if you have not made mistakes. you guys can back each other up to the very end but you also have mistakes ngayazshelo nje
So the only thing I didn't like about the video was the comparison to jk, I don't think it was necessary, but about his voice I mostly agree. Jimin is my bias, and I'm saying this because I want to see him improve. I think the problem is not only jimin, but big hit too, like even when they record in studio, the producers and the ones who work there, they seem to give to ignore the mistakes he makes or how he struggles. I mean, if you see your artist having problems singing or using the wrong technique, you should tell him, it's not a bad thing, you only help him. Jimin didn't get the vocal lessons he needed, and it also seems that even the members give him some advices on how to sing, which shouldn't happen, like, if it's an advise on how to sing a verse ok, but on how to sing in general nope. It's like they ignore this problem, it's 2021 and, yes from the debut, he really improved, but not how someone should have improved in all those years. I'm sad sometimes, because when I see a performance, and jimin's it's coming, I always hope he doesn't make any mistakes. Usually no one talks about it, but there is one youtuber, I'm not going to say his name, who always says the truth, not only about jimin, but if he heard someone making mistakes, he is going to tell you. One last thing is that we had this covid pandemic and unfortunately that means, for them, no concerts or other things, and I'm not saying they didn't do anything during that period, because they did a lot of performances in various shows, but, as they said, their schedule was a little more lighter, so they had more time for themselves, and someone practiced and other things, and I'm wondering why during that time jimin didn't have any vocal lessons(or maybe he did, I don't know), like it was the perfect occasion, they had this kind of pause( more time), I really don't understand. I hope this "problem" is going to be fixed. I really want to see jimin more proud and secure about his voice, because he has such a beautiful and unique voice.
I 100% AGREE WITH THIS
@@sabramohamed129 Finally someone who agrees with me, I don't want to make this a huge problem, but the fact that they didn't fix this situation yet, makes it a huge problem. I'm not saying jimin is old, but at his age and the fact that he's a singer(for like 8 years now), mean his voice should be "stable" already, like he has his sound and he knows how to use his voice.
I 100% agree with u
@@김유리-p9b thank you🤝 I hate that is a taboo argument, ignoring all of this it's not going to make anything better, it's not like jimin is going to sing better just like that. And It's not like we're offending him saying those things, but I want him to be comfortable and confident when it comes to singing, I'm not saying that the other members sing better than him, but you can see the difference.
I totally agree with most of what you said but when you say that she/he should not compare the members with each other
I do not agree comparison is a very important part when do an analysis and comparing the members between them is the most reliable comparison that we can make because they share the same musical background if we had compared him to a gospel singer like avery wilson yes, there it would have been problematic because they did not receive the same musical education and if we compared him to other k-idols it would also be badly advised because all the agencies do not train their singer in the same way and when bts was still in period of training Bighit really didn't had a lot of money to pay them the best voice coaches so even when they come from the same industry they do not all debut with the same advantage which will influence their ability to sing, dance in the futur BUT now that Bighit is rich enough to go buy three HUGE buildings and they also have more time with quarantine so they should had to work on that but sadly they didn’t.
Ok im here in 2024 coz i was missing them... And the fact that out of their 11 yr career, we could only find 2min of clips with mistakes 😂 proves how great they are.
Ps: for haters who are saying that these aren't all of their bad clips, show me just 1hr or even just half an hour clips of them giving poor performance.
The literal truth. Some of these are when they are exhausted after performing and sick. BTS is also human. They are not perfect. But this video being of only two minutes can clearly say that they are near perfection. This video is made by a solo stan for sure.
It is nearly 11 years
@@JINglebells871 we can not count that 1 yr coz of their military service
Sorry, but there are other clips not in this video. I can't believe y'all feel validated by this. Pathetic 😂
Then why didn't they add them
You know Youtube is not restricted about the time of the video right@lalalopsy5966
me who thought the title was being sarcastic 💀
Same bro
Same
They have bad singing technique, sucks cause they damaged their chords by singing
US😭
@@SieMiezekatzeImagine being 10yrs into their career with thousands of live performance with complex choreos, doing them sick and with sound issues,insane schedule behind you and all of ur mistake can only add up to 3 MINUTES! This clrly shows how talented they are,only has 3/4 mistakes in 10+ yrs career!? Isn't it insane?And this vdo is made by a solo stan who clrly Didn't add the moment where jk was out of pitch or cracked(now dont tell me he didnt miss cz i've proof or go and search just like u searched bts can't sing to write hateful cmnt), who has no idea what vocals or vocals techniques are how they work! Before pointing ur fingers at them "just search ur fav voice crack/straining moment for once on yt" i hope then You'll will understand It's too normal for any artist to do any mistake! How inhuman you can be for declaring anyone unworthy just bcz of 3min mistake while they have 10+ live singing career with insane numbers of fanbase! WE'RE NOT BLIND!WE DEFINITELY NOT GONNA STAN AN ARTIST WHO DOESN'T HAVE TALENTS! Bts is still improving, still they are working hard to make themselves better, alas! We can't appreciate at their achievement...
Imagine being 10 years into your career with thousands of LIVE performances with very complex choreos, doing them sick and with sound issues, and insane schedules behind you, and all of your mistakes can only add up to 3 minutes! Of course this video is made by a solo stan who has no idea what vocals or vocal techniques are or how they work.
No hun. You're army but you clearly haven't watched enough performance videos😂
@@lalalopsy5966 oh I definitely have you clearly haven't not even close. BTS have the most relevant live performances of any group like tiny desk, and BBC radio aka shows only real vocalists get invited to.
Jimin's vocals are preferred by many vocal coaches and professional artists like Ailee one of the best k-pop vocalists who said that his vocals are her favorite and she'd like to collaborate with him. People often describe his voice as angelic which is true. Just listen to the song let me know where he hit that difficult high note at the end so beautifully that it became the highlights of the song
@@sarahomar8351I'm not trying to hate here Fr, but those 'many vocal coaches and professional artists' prefer his studio vocals, not his live vocals.
Yes he does sound fine on recorded songs, but live?... Oh well
@@bridgetgodwin7310 No they don't most of them commented on his vocal abilities live. Again if you've watched as many BTS live performances as I have you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. You could also check out the song "Let me know" that I suggested earlier and listen to his high note on it yourself as an example.
@@bridgetgodwin7310 No they don't most of them commented on his vocal abilities live. Again if you've watched as many BTS live performances as I have you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. You could also check out the song "Let me know" that I suggested earlier and listen to his high note on it yourself as an example.
'BTS cant sing' is a crazy conclusion because the video is TWO MINUTES long and they exist for ELEVEN YEARS. Think again
Exactly
That would make sense IF this person went through every performance over 11 years and could only find 2 minutes of content. But that is not what happened.
yeah i’ve seen ppl say that jimin was sick during that time too but idrk, they might have been tired and overworked who knows, but either way they probably gave their best
right
bro stop the denial, armys can really make a 1 hour compilation of bts singing being below mid, but nobody would watch that, nobody would click on an hour long video of ear torture
Your channel's name explains your problem
no fr
It's literally not a problem-
@@euvphoia yes it is solo Stan’s are usually very toxic
fr like they all sing so well
@@brennathecatlover4360but all she said was a fact 😭
It seems kinda wrong to compare the members with Jk, they all have strengths and weaknesses but Jk is the main vocalist and the only member who actually auditioned to sing plus got good training
I agree with you, Jimin originally is a dancer.. It is hard for him to sing given he only trained for a year before debuting, thats for sure.. I remember one time he was so sad because of his voice and he cant help but compare himself to Jk.. Anyway, I do agree he needs to improve though especially during performance but he needs support.. Still I love Jimin's voice. 😍
Wtf? Only jungkook got good training before debut?
@@maryantics6784 he trained only 5 months* not a year so it’s worst
@@yoongishoba ohh okay tysm!!
Everyone does mistakes even Jk does it remember during euphoria he couldn't perform well in one of the part and was crying backstage but since the channel person is a solo Stan he/she won't show Jks mistakes Ik he is the most perfect members but that's the reason sometimes people say bitter things bout Jk and then others feel that army hates him
These things shouldn't be done
i’m not even a singer, i play the drums, but i’ll let you know my stance on this video. i think that people forget that bts do so many performances and tour all over the world. like with any frequently performing groups, there will always be a few performances that aren’t performed as they were recorded on the tracks that we hear on spotify and stuff. whether this is the members’ intonation (pitch accuracy) their timbre/tone (the characteristics of their voice) or even their energy or enthusiasm, i feel that we should understand they are still only humans who aren’t computers that recreate sounds on command. just an example of this - no matter how amazing you are of a musician/dancer/performer, if you do 200 performances you are definitely going to have at least one that isn’t as amazing compared to the other 199 technique wise. i think it’s healthier for us as fans to be aware of this because if we don’t, it puts an unrealistic amount of pressure on the musicians we love, especially bts. also, i don’t know if it’s right of us to compare the members in such a way because as musicians and performers i can assure you they already criticise themselves and compare enough.
i hope this communicates my view well, take care army and everyone else in this comment section💜
i’m sure there are more groups than bts, it’s just this is a video talking about bts so that’s why i was mainly talking about them. i think it’s safe to say that bts are the biggest kpop group in the world, so the group you referenced may be very very busy, but no kpop group has made it as big as bts - especially in global appeal and positive influence. so as a result im not quite sure that any other group has done as many performances and large venues internationally and such. that’s what i was saying in my initial comment and how that with as many performances as they have, there will always be ones that stand out as less fluent as others. that’s how music and performing works. i get what you mean that they should consider other careers, but if you are an engineer and designed three stable bridges, just because one of them was not as efficient as the rest doesn’t mean you should disregard your whole career and become a surgeon. bts are doing amazing things right now, and they are beyond just going to stages and singing and dancing aiming to be 100% accurate to the track and please people like you. they try their best always, as we all should but we can’t expect them to be perfect all the time and then go “but look at this other artist who had this one really stable performance of a completely different song”
speaking of which, as cool as that video you linked is, i’m not familiar enough with bigbang’s work to fairly discuss this, but i don’t even have to. you’re showing one performance of many that sounds and making an assessment of the whole band based on that. also, if you think that the consequence of being an idol is touring the world and then having unstable vocals, you might not be fully aware of the genuine consequences of being an idol cos i think we can all agree there’s many more than that. maybe you can become a trainee and then be in the next biggest kpop group to get a better understanding of these things than what you have now. its not necessary to understand these things, but it would help.
i’ve seen that you’ve left a lot of replies in this comment section as well criticising bts. you can have opinions on these musicians and idol groups but if you go into a comment second full of army defending the musicians they love and respect, i think ur gonna have a hard time persuading them by saying bts “cant sing without auto tune😝🙈”. i do wanna say i’m thankful for you sharing your opinion tho. it’s nice to discuss these differences in opinion so i can gain more understanding of others’ opinions. however i think this is something we do disagree on. but that’s completely fine lol it’s just music groups.
ty for sharing
@@아피-h5s well you and i are just consumers of their music, we only see the finished product on not the work that goes into it, so how do we know they aren’t progressing and getting better when all you see is the finished product? i know many videos where jimin jin and v all sing just in a non-treated room and sound rather nice and controlled. i don’t think anyone is going to see things from ur point of view in this comment section until you get up on stages around the world and sing and dance like bts and bigbang do. if you can’t do that yourself, i’m not sure if it’s your job to go into comment sections and say silly things about these dudes who are literally just working their job and earning money like many other ppl in the world. i think it’s best we keep our mouths shut unless we can say something with respect, especially so you don’t get attacked by army who will stand up for these dudes until the day we die. good talk though.
@@아피-h5s to be honest i’m starting to lose track of what you’re trying to say, but i know people who have a similar stance to you and i get where ur coming from, i just can’t say i agree. ty for the discussion though :)
Preach louder ❤🎉
May god bless you ❤
As a former singer, it’s not easy to maintain your voice when you constantly singing from one stage to another stage..and they are not only singing,but also dancing..it’s normal when you have days when you losing your voice especially when you have to hit high notes in almost every songs like Jimin and Jin..and there could be technical issues when your earphone didn’t work so you can’t really hear your voice…my advise,pls don’t judge someone unless you have experienced what they gone through..all bts vocal lines have unique vocal characters that compliments each others..every members worked hard for their group and their fans..there will be no bts without the vocal lines and rap lines..that’s all
Well, people judge each other all the time without experiencing what others have gone through. You don't have to. Deal with it.
True but they need vocal lessons they don't get any for example Exo a big kpop group they were always from stage to stage like literally every single day and their vocals never sound like this they always were spot on still to this day they take vocals lessons even tho their great singers and can do high notes no hate to BTS I love them and they work hard and need time to rest and work on their dances rap and singing they need that time like all artists do
You are making excuses. I can tell you are a former singer
i think this is what happened to him at encore performance, he received a lot of bashing😢
Enough with the technical issue. You yourself said you are singer, surely along the way you develop your skill. it's been what ? Years since he debuted are you telling me that he didn't learn anything about his voice after so many years? Frank Sinatra sang even better when he aged and Whitney Houston lost her voice not because of old age but because of vices. There are even singers who ate at their 70 and still sound great. Have you heard tom Jones sing? Let's face it he is not a natural born singer and what makes it worst is that for someone who knows that he is not a natural born singer he doesn't even make an effort to improve. After all those years of training it's as if he did not learn anything at all
As a singer myself. I know that this is not the result of bad technique.
firstly, In loud environments, its hard to sing in Pitch because there so much of chaos in the Background. its not bad technique.
People who sing know that everyone has those days when they dont perform as well.
I Salute Artists who Tour. its not easy to sing while moving or Dancing.
You cannot Judge someones Singing Based on a Few clips of their Worst perfomances.
In the performance with Charlie Puth their in-ears weren't working. That's why at some point Jk yanked his out.
@@raynatumbeva780 No wonder.
They have earpieces tho. I'm not sure if you're actually a singer or not
@@3racha799 Dude earpiece was not working as much asi know
@@3racha799 Bruhh those ear pieces can't cancel out so much of noise
Haha, this is the problem of solo stans. Not a new thing, we know jungkook is so good, he's the main vocalist and has to work more for his singing but it doesn't mean other members are talentless. showing some videos of voice cracking and not in good condition doesn't prove that they're not good singers. it's not easy to sing live and also while dancing. But the problem is that you (so-called solo stan) can't understand how much they invest their time into singing and bcz of their diets and all they lack in singing. You are not at that stage to judge them. I have a suggestion for you to find their hard work, watch their best vocals Instead of praising one by showing others wrong. but no why would you watch their best vocals 🤣these videos can prove you wrong right!?🌝
🤣🤣dude these bitches can't understand these things. They're blind af not only from eyes but from their empty mind.
Fuck them 🤣🤣✌we know our boys we don't need others' approval.
☺☺just ignore them. We know who is good or who is not. Those who say nonsense, they themselves now get their lesson.
😂😂😂you can imagine How many dislikes be on this video but sad RUclips remove the dislike count 🤣 anyway I think we should not waste our time on these dumb ass peoples.
I'm not a solo stan but it's quite clear that vocals is *not* the main focus of 3rd generation idols - instead it's hard choreographies and visuals. BTS CAN sing but they could DEFINITELY use more vocal training, especially Jimin (his vocal technique is not good at all, but he seems to be improving little by little).
I am an OT7 Stan but it's quite clear (not from this video, but in general) that Jungkook and J-Hope have the best technique, especially J-Hope (the guy never sounds out of breath and always delivers amazing vocals 😲). For Taehyung, the keys of the songs are almost always too high for him, but he tries his best anyways. Jin has great vocals too, but HYBE does not have enough faith in him to trust him without autotune (which is quite sad, because he has a very beautiful voice).
There is always room for improvement, guys. You can see the truth and love all 7 boys anyways. No need for animosity 💜
Jimin is my bias, and I do agree on parts that his voice is the one that easily gets strained especially when they are having world tour, in case you don’t know he talked about it already and it has something to do with his tonsils saying that its really bigger than the normal size which causing his voice to easily get strained, and recently he has been doing vocal lesson which I’m hoping that would help give him a better technique. His voice for me is really the most captivating unique and healing, besides being a genius performer on stage. He shines in everything he does these mistakes for me are just normal can’t even bring down on how great he is. Now that they are having solo projects I’m looking forward of what he can bring cause all of his songs are masterpiece. His charisma, stage presence, performance level, persona and passion will always be his strong points which can carry anysong given to him… looking forward to Park Jimin the performer only hyper critical, jealous, and bitter person will say he is not good and lacking. Park Jimin is more than enough.
preach 🙌🏽
Yup I agree knowing the fact his voice gets more fragile on high pitch
I smell another paragraph of EXCUSES
📢JUST READ MY OPINION ONCE PLZ,
A SINGER can't cope their vocals with every songs, You'll see some songs need special high or low tone,chest voices,adlibs,falsetto and so many breathing techniques..songs like On, boy with luv jimin's part,bs&t jimin's part, fake love,louder than bomb,lie black swan etc songs are very difficult, really very difficult.. Jin can't sing every song well,For example,You'll notice jin can sing 'take two' song very well,,he is even given more lines in that song...Jk or v or jimin can't be that much good like jin in those parts,i Don't remember in which songs but jk Once told "It's time to make jin main vocalist" why would he say that if jin were that bad? for V he is a baritone singer and has a raspy voice,You'll see in some vlive jk tried to sing V's song but Couldn't do it... I'll provide you link if you can't blv, for jimin obviously he Doesn't have that vocal training so his voice got strained i know,but his songs are really hard to sing,,in full group, i found jimin's part very difficult, he both has soft and high tone,listen butterfly jimin's part are so smooth, and i find jimin's pronouciation in singing a lot better in singing (like he sings in a smooth,hot way, i can't explain) his singing techniques are not good actually, serendipity is a song ONLY JIMIN CAN SING, in a live performance jimin's voice shaked cz he got nervous becz of a stage arrangement (he was in a bubble,he tried to blow it but Couldn't, so It's natural to become nervous) his voice shaked but Didn't miss the tone,here is the link:
ruclips.net/user/shortsqP_urdU6Nrs?si=_LaW_bSW4xhGZBc2
And we all know jk is a born singer, he pushes himself so hard,he loves singing actually.. What I'm trying to say they are NOT BAD SINGER! THEY JUST CAN'T ADJUST WITH EVERY TONE THEY'RE GIVEN,, on,fake love,lie,serendipity, louder than bombs alot of songs has some part which are not in bts's capabilities... Still they tried..jin can sing very well, he practiced with V 'It's definitely you' song, check behind the scenes they both sang live! This type of song are easy to sing for them actually, they had done it very well! Did you listen V's solo song? Aren’t those songs are way too different than these grp songs!? Just answer me with honesty!!.
Plz Don't discourage them,they have endured alot,they still are doing things which are not even their capabilities, we should appreciate them, You Don't appreciate when they do well but always criticise and give tons of hate when they do any mistakes,WHY???
@@aenabillera when you only want to hate them, what else can be expected!? At least they Don't lip sync like your fav,so obviously You'll defame most talented ones,, YOU ppl are real lifeless
I'm here in 2024 and wondering. Jimin, and in fact, most of BTS members were never meant to be singers and dancers. JK is the only original vocalist in the whole team. Jin and Jimin had to LEARN singing. RM, and Suga had to LEARN dance. Jhope had to LEARN rap. Literally all of them had to LEARN to be the magnificent all-rounders they are today. Hence, they are the biggest boy band in the world. So, I'll take your all of 2min of vocal mishaps because...11years later and they still remain on top.
Agreed
💯💯💯💯
fans have to change mindset about the idols, they are total package and not just best singer, best dancer...i completely stan JK but to compare his skills toward other BTS member is inappropriate, for me they shine all on their own ways. Aa a new army and a former local band vocalist, im not surprised that i immediately picked out JK among the rest but looking back, i cannot see any other member less deserving of the group fete since they all work very hard and as said contribute to the fame of BTS
Jungkook is talented... But I don't get why he is into emo looks these days
Its not really about whose best singer or best dancer. Its just as a standard is set for idols, its not like if someone with not so good vocals is gonna blow and become famous or be sign to a lable on normal terms. Jimin is my bias for years but he does need some help like idk how ibighit didnt notice that
the last video is in the middle of the tour concert. jimin carried after that song because he was disappointed by himself. that season he was sick at throat. but jimin always tries to be improved himself. so Don't compare to JK
@@leekyungmin7448 sensible person ✨💅
"im an army since debute" myyyyyyyyyyyy ass
Exactly
Exactly she is biased how can she except jimin to sing when is sick come on we call him angle only in words but he is a fucking human
Yes she/he is a hater!
@@baishalitamuli7650 NOPE MORE LIKE A SOLO STAN OF ONLY JUNGKOOK
Ikr
I'm a jk bias but i know jungkook is the main vocalist you know something jimin voice like a angel when he sing . Real army do not compare their voice each other
Its not really about whose best singer or best dancer or just comparing voices. Its just as a standard is set for idols, its not like if someone with not so good vocals is gonna blow and become famous or be sign to a lable on normal terms. Jimin is my bias for years but he does need some help like idk how ibighit didnt notice that. There are lead singers with stable voices even if their not on the level as main vocal hence the term lead vocal. For example Exo Lay, suho, xiumin or nct jaehyun, yuta(which for a lead his voice really good) and jungwoo. I get that we love these guys as there humans but its not alien to have expectations of "talent" from idols
Jimin is a terrible singer.
Real army with actual working will know difference between talent
2023 Encore jimin like Crazy...
I'm jk bias but I know jungkook is the main vocalist and do you know when jimin sings a song he's voice will be like an angel and don't do any comparison between that Seven Heros
Actually if just want to talk about the negatives ofcourse every one has. But jimins high notes are on another level he proved it in let me know and many other songs. Jin epiphany live and his falsetto was awsom. V his soulful voice is soo gud .so we should mention their talents too not just the negatives.
another level high note? is it like this? ruclips.net/user/shortsLuKVtUU8mwk?feature=share
Keep dreaming his cracked voice 😂. Jk is the only "Singer" in BTS. Yoongi, Rm are the only "Rappers" rest are backup dancers 😂 haha
@@bighit9508 so what if everyone have their own places including u and me 😂. I don't wanna crct u cuz I am confident in my thoughts 😂😂.
@@bighit9508 lmao you everywhere with the same comment...you don't have anyother thing to say that you are true lmao so like a kid
@@bighit9508 yeah but yoongi and suga are the same person yk 💀
I am not an army but as a singer, I know how difficult is to sing in front of lots of people. Rather, they have such big concerts, there is so much pressure. You should not forget they're artists and doing their work with dedication. I respect them a lot not just because they are a very big boy band but because they inspire a lot of people, they're humble people, dedicated to their work, love their fans, and appreciate other artists as well. Not only one Quality can make someone famous they're good with others that's why people love them however they are their fans or any random viewers. This 2 min video doesn't prove anything. And don't compare artists to other artists. Respect everyone! I don't think you are capable to judge them like this 🙂
You have dhadak dp.
And you know the female singer is Shreya Ghoshal.
She can sing constantly for hours with pitch accuracy. Which includes Indian classical, sad songs, low note songs, pitchy songs , high note songs. That's what make her a legend not her look. If I go to a singing concert I would like to listen original vocals rather than he or she dance or not.
He was sick 😃 how can they expect him to sing please
The content is all about singing and does want to point out things that the idols need improvement, you as a singer knows how music works. And most of the "fail attempts" are at the start of the song, they are still not dancing', if they are nervous or sick then they already do this kind of things for many years right? It's not an excuse if they want to sing properly. If YOU SAY I ONLY SEE THEM AS SINGING AND DANCING MACHINE, pls don't. Cause they want to perform their very best then they should show their fans the best' the practice for many hours right?
Please judge them as a singer not with how you point things based on what the society wanted you to do. You are not helping them YOU ARE TOLERATING THEM
You aren't a singer when you can't criticize others nor feel insecure, Don't be a saint. Cause you're not.
when the name of your channel just implies you are a solo stan
True
Lmao
True AF
So true
You just butthurt jk outdid your fav 💀
You guys really don't know how talented and beautiful Jin's vocals are. And Jimin with his unique sultry voice in a song appropriate for him is remarkable. Taehyung with his baritone makes it difficult for him to keep up with the other three vocals with higher pitch. But still he is a talented singer.
jungkook is still the best vocalist by far in the group
Yess like we don't have ears only you have 😂
Tae has a massive rang though! He's my unsung hero. (Excuse the pun). X
@@elizaramsey9748 baritone singers have one of the lowest ranges my dear . Because of their deep voice they can't touch high notes like jk rosé baekhyun lily and other soprano singers . They are resistant to their born with range .
@RORA786 I'm a very experienced vocal coach of 30 years 'my dear' and know very well what a baritones range is. Taes range spans across all possible octaves for a male voice. Eg in Stigma and more. He has a deep sound in all areas.
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Let's be honest! I love listern to music, so this caught my eye. I can honestly keep a tune, sang in fine choirs right throughout school, and there are some days I sound flat and tired to myself. You don't always sound perfect. I once went to a mother / daughter tea event and the singer who is totally tallented went off too. We can all hit an off note. Sometimes even Demash Kudaibergen sounds a bit off in my ears. We all have natural boi-rhythms.
Jungkook's vocals are so stable and his voice is damn soothing
Really stable! He could sing anything I reckon x
let's not lie
Jimin one also
@jinatjinat680 sorry I don't understand x
@@namjoonies_torn_Shirt are you deaf 🤣🤣
I'm proud of BTS for always trying their best in everything... Sometimes it works out but sometimes it doesn't and that's what I love about them💜💜💜
Period
Major cringe
yoc
@Yaya Coronada here comes the white knight to defend her waifus
@@LexiD-zx6bf you are right. I never argued with any army. If they don't comment "BTS best vocalist, jungkook vocals are fire in we don't talk anymore , jimin has a angelic voice, etc etc" I listened 10 times that we don't talk anymore performance. But everytime I found something more common as average singers.
I sing (with professional lessons, a teacher, etc) and have to say that after some time your voice does slip or get cracks. It is normal, especially if you sing in a different key than your “normal” singing voice (like Jimin does). Through forcing it eventually hurts your throat.
I mean, yes, they sometimes sound off-key but they’re singing live and giving their best so I think we are not in the position to say they are bad singers or can’t sing.
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@@afifahdiyah9903 that’s not really true, they can. However they probably always use support when they are performing on stage because you can’t really sing while jumping and spinning like crazy. So I think it‘s even more impressive when you hear them sing for real because one‘s voice tends to sound off key while doing fast moves.
@@afifahdiyah9903 Gosh, sure, sometimes even stars have voice cracks. But what to you want to proof? All I said is that it is normal to occasionally sound off key.
Singing in an uncomfortable pitch for a longer period of time can make your throat sore and your voice crack.
And the Jk clip where he recorded Euphoria? That’s *normal*. You try to get the right melody for a song a few times, even try a variation of the original melody. So it‘s not gonna sound like the final recording.
I still think we, their fans, should not judge them in a disrespectful way but support them when they improve.
Lol summing up their 9 years of performances into 2 minutes and saying that they can´t sing...
İt's because mostly bts use backup tracks with autotune on in their mics during live performance.
These are the clips where the backup track was not there neither the autotune
Just except it already except Jungkook neither of the vocalist can sing at a professional level.
@@아피-h5s well there fans include me too and i know the reality but i still love them
@@filza_rashdi4955 Their concerts say otherwise. Just accept it. You're a lame hater with no life, sitting on your couch or wherever and hating on ppl with talent for their fails from their 11 years of experience. This vid is 2 mins. BTS can sing.
@@filza_rashdi4955girl shut up
Ok? So you’re saying they can’t make mistakes they’re humans to everybody makes mistakes. Jimin has a beautiful voice actually all of them do..
No matter what they do their not good enough for people💜 namjoon is right ARMY is changing a lot😭
But they are in this singing career for a long time it's not like this is new for them 💀 even a newbie group can sing better at live
@@pooja3748Fr The only member that can sing Great live is JK
Rest of them doesn't have voice control
@@pooja3748really ?
Go watch some other clips too...
Why only hating on him after just these few clips ?
They have performed at least ten thousand times...
Jimin's voice is soo soothing and angelic.
Jins voice is just a heaven.
V's voices is praised and appreciated by a lot....
Y'all should just stop hating on them.
@@pooja3748 Its impossible to sing and dance(what they dance) perfectly at live
I am an Exo-L but this video is rude. Just respect them. They're actually good. And also its hard to sing in front of many people lols.
As an Army I really appreciate your comment and respect you
As an EXO-L, I respect BTS because they try so hard and hardwork is also respectable
As an exol, you should know EXO is LEAGUES above BTS as singers. There’s no excuse for BTS to sound as awful as they do
@@susysmilesalot awful??
@@susysmilesalot you want me to shade your exo? Believe me i can
And that too about the vocals
I love Jungkook voice
Without him, BTS would be total flop! 💯
Who said??
@@taestheworld2499 jk voice draw me to BTS
I love everything about Jungkook
@@taestheworld2499 General Public listens his song I think ask them!
@@meiko2164 Nonsense, then he should leave the group and let's see if the group will flop or not.
they have sing a THOUSAND times where they did amazing, yet this is a video with few moments. So, that means they still awesome. You don’t have to jump to conclusions for bad moments bc you are being unfair to their hard work. Let them make mistakes, let them be bad sometimes, after all, they are humans. We don’t want them to be perfect, bc it doesn’t exist. Plus, this channel is called “Jungkook Shining Solo”😭🤡 lmao
most of the time the vocals aren’t good, except jungkook. most of the time jungkooks vocals are good.
@@msterrific i suggest you to go and search for their amazing vocals. They are plenty and they are incredible.
@@dailymemedose69 exactly, this means nothing
The problem that this video shows is how damaged the flow of their vocal become, especially in Jimin case. Yeah, mostly it's just videos where they have bad condition, but don't forget that there might be regression through out the years they have been singing. Bighit somehow put too much pressure on their shoulders, then in one moment they came to state were they have to force themselves to heat certain note
It's not hate, I'm an army since 2015, it's the year when I fell in love with unique vocals of Jimin and Taehyung, but seeing them suffer because of lack of good vocal coaches in bighit makes me feel upset and disappointed. I'm still hopping to see them back in state, when they can get the flow naturally 😌
Yeah you're absolutely right
How many songs and how many times they are performing they are also having health issues so it's a small mistake no need to spread this as theirs vocals are bad....
I am not a professionally trained vocal coach or anything but i am a lowkey singer
Ngl if you have a good singing voice doesn't actually mean you would always sound like that
Sometimes we lose stability and get voice cracks
K pop idols does rigorous practice and it will certainly affect your voice when you sing for a long time
Its just my opinion
No hate no shade too the creator
The problem is that jimin wasn't even dancing in most of his horrible performances. There are more than what's in this video, so it's something consistent with him. There's a reason why people on TikTok joke that he has a goat voice. He is a very talented dancer but he lacks in singing. I don't hate BTS. I just hate it when people hype them so much as if they're the best there ever was. What makes it worse is when army comes to their defense and insist that he's just sick, or tired. There's another kpop group and one member's voice cracked when singing live. The fandom roasted him, but it's all good for everyone. That's how I would've wanted army to react in the first place.
@@dailymemedose69 nope still bad
@@dailymemedose69 yes go off tell em stupid solo stans
@@Melissa-gv4et well he was sick in truth untold live though it's a fact
It's also lack of confidence
I understand the comments saying its hard to sing live and whatnot, but they’re idols, its their job. They’ve been in the industry close to 10 years now ans have trained for longer. By this time they should’ve been proficient. But they aren’t, while many rookies are better. Thats the issue. Didn’t Jungkook say they haven’t had vocal lessons in years? yeah they need them, badly😭
Constructive criticism is good but it has become so these days that even if the person being criticized improves afterwards, the people can't accept the fact. They have improved a lot and these are just few moments..there are plenty of moments where they have sang beautifully and amazingly....u can search that on youtube too....😶
We can't ignore the fact that they actually have sung very well in live performances most of the times... these are just some times when they couldn't...yea that's it hehe ...am not shouting or u know throwing my opinion on u it's u and ur choice in the end anyways just told what I was feeling like 🪄❤
@@sydnistar they are idols that can make mistake but certainly not in singing. Can you tell me what the basic skill set should a singer have? Singing... It's a basic skills set and if you have trained for years and work several years after your training years as a professional singer you should already have mastered your voice. Would you even hire an engr that can't even use a meter stick correctly or hire a dentist whose can't even identify an incisor vs molar? I guess not right? So singer should sing and he/she should sing better than any average person.
@@cubiessugar8611 but when other army's do the same thing to other army's it's okay?
@@onlyhyuk umm what about armys here? It's about bts here....😅...I guess I didn't understand what you were trying to ask ....can u please explain ur question if u don't mind...eh hehe 😅😅
your comment has sense, if you want to improve your skills, just learn how to do it, start doing it.
But I don't feel like I want it to happen, I already like how they sing...
:)
i'm agree, Jimin need vocal coach. every singer can sing so it's so hard for me listening his voice.
Reason is when dancing your chest is closed and that causes something called strain and it’s not that he sounds bad always this bitch just picked bad clips
Then do not listen to it you fvcking moron
1. You are not a professional singer you don't have any right to give "opinion"
2. He is a singer for reason and why people all over the world love him and why is his song at the top in billboard the reason? HIS VOICE
@@parkchaeyun798 ain't no way you said this, but ok..... i guess if not professional it means people have no ears and brains to actually think
You don’t need to be a professional singer to know that he sings out of tune.
Jungkook voice always remian stable. Yeah he can miss lines but never miss the tune, beat . Whatever he sings hears to be heavenly. That's the main thing
And it's okay not every performance has to go good. We stan bts we love them it's okay they do mistakes they are human being. Respect them
Jk makes mistakes too
This video simply decided not to show them and disrespect others by comparing them to jk
bts is one of my favorite bands but the reality is that after listening and seeing exo and btob sing and dance live I feel like there is no excuse. I used to think that they are very tired, etc. but the reality is that I feel that taking jk out, none of them are born singers, that is, they are people who learned to sing, so they have to constantly work on their voice.
YES AGREED
Finally a normal army
@@asianworld2451 YES FINALLY
so what is so great about being a born singer? That just means the talent was handed over to you without any effort from your side. This argument is pretty stupid. The video actually proves that Bts always sings live, even when they know their voice may crack. Look at the kpop nowadays. Hardly anybody sings live, cracks or not. And this video is just a few stages from the hundreds of live stages Bts has performed at, so it proves nothing except that Jimin needs to take care of his voice and stop straining it.
@@nida5536 you are talking things from ignorance, being born with the ability to sing doesn't take away any merit, they were simply born with that talent, their singing comes naturally to them, they know how to use their voice and because there is also an anatomical part of their vocal cords and capacity breathe that makes them great singers. Second, you are very wrong in saying that they don't make any effort, they also train with vocal coaches and they also make an effort just like any singer. The fact that a person needs to work more on their voice doesn't take credit away from someone who comes out more easily. A person who was born with that ability has the same merit as one who was not. Being a born singer means having a good vocal technique, nothing has to do with their voice cracking live, it happens to all singers. I give you the example of jimin, he is a born dancer and jin is not, but if I ask you who has the ability to dance naturally, surely you tell me that jimin but doesn't mean that Jin is a Bad dancer. In itself have a born talent is just that a talent, people have their own tastes, but for the person who has to carry out their ability with the voice or the body, it's important. If you are an army, you will know that Jimin suffered a lot with the sing theme, just as Jin suffered with the dance theme. that's why they have to train continuously simply because it isn't their strong point. Yeah in this generation there are few groups that sing live, why? for the same reason they are not singers, most are dancers and people who have learned to use their voice. And agencies don't waste their time letting idols take singing classes. But in 3 gen there are groups that singing in live. What the video is talking about is that they simply don't have a well-worked or strong vocal technique and that has nothing to do with them singing live. And i agree jimin needs to rest his voice but also work with a coach to help him because his voice will be damaged if he doesn't use it properly.
If you have any doubt on jimin's voice so you can watch his set me free and like crazy perfomances.
@MR.BLINK_ aww just like you!
@gaynaIdo💀
"On" encore stage on that music show was the most painful one to watch. From that video, I know how much JK carry BTS's vocal with his adlibs, harmonizing and hidden vocals in every BTS songs.
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youre acting as if Jimin cant sing💀 he messes up once and then all of a sudden all of you come after him, get a better hobby honestly
@@ok-tl3sl Lmao only once 💀🤡 whatever lets you sleep at night
@@mynameisalice01 ewww not the solo stan talking 💀 he's not a robot babes, he's not going to sound perfect every single time he sings 🤡🤡
@@ok-tl3sl I guess jungkook is a robot then 🤨😌😌😌
This comments are just embarrassing.
Jimin has more than 7 years on the industry and he can't sing. Even if he didn't audition for that, he still is an idol and has the obligation to improve because he's out there labeled as a singer. And yet in the recent performances he still sounds awful . I'm a huge fan and he's my favorite 😍, but we gotta be real. They're humans and they have flaws we all agree, but there's no excuse for his lack of singing skills, when other members sound somewhat okay 👌 . They have resources, money ,time and they can hire the best coaches and still they don't do it .
Tell that to your army friends. They keep making excuses. Hope you don't get attacked as well by your comment. 😄
Somebody ignored the the 200+ live stages where he sings pretty normal and the recent busan concert, and just chose to believe a barely 3 minute video😑 I'm amused, really
We all know bts is not on level of sm grp in vocals,but did you see their performances!? They are full package! Who Doesn't have voice crack moment for god sake? Even baekhyun has voice crack moments,, but that Doesn't make him bad singer, this vdo Didn't even have v's bad performance,, jin and jimin learned singing after joining bts,you expect them to be on sm level!? But the aura they hold in stage is just incredible! did you hear v's high note in stigma,raspy voice in mic drop, idol,boy in luv?jimin's high note in let me know,crystal snow,2!3!, adlibs in home, high note in autumn leaves,house of cards,lie,rain,Don't leave me,home,the truth untold, danger,hold me tight,tony montana,we are bulletproof pt 2..,,jk's high note in born singer,jin's triple high notes in epiphany,dinosys,crystal snow? Jin has given excellent performance in crystal snow,spring day,fake love,zero o clock,house of cards,epiphany,just one day etc,, In bts jimin hit most of the high notes,he has that voice that's why he could hit,he pulled off maximum difficult parts of their song like-blood,sweet and tears,,, danger,,louder Than bomb,house of card, and alot,,jin's voice brought me tears,if you have time plz watch their live performance on these songs i mentioned.i actually feel very bad why vocal lines of bts doesnt get proper recognition they deserve.... They might not be best,but they set a standard! Why their concert's tickets are sold out in a few min if they are bad in live performance!? Plz think before just bashing bts,why everyone wants to discredit them this much?
And on what basis are you making these claims??? This comment is an year old, and around the time his solo album came out.
Yet to come concert Jimin's voice was BEAUTIFUL just like the others, there was nothing wrong and they did that goddamn concert for free. Many of his solo stages are also amazing. I dont understand how you can just broadly claim "in his recent performances he sounds awful" and not say which one you're talking about
@irritated performersupport_rpwp7
Jimin has a sweet and angelic voice, I agree on that but he lacks consistency and technique (meaning about 70% of the time he either adds squeaks or growls and rarely sticks to the way the original is sung) .
If only he could change his technique that would make him sing comfortably with ease, he would be almost as stable as jungkook and become better as a vocalist.
This is my personal opinion (emphasis on PERSONAL).
Truth untold jimin was sick and they was messing about on the encore stage.... and no ones voice is going to be perfect when they perform as often as they do and they song live! You say theres been no improve yet dont post anything recent.... and there was many good performances of ON and all the songs you posted but you expect them to be perfect all the time.... definitely not an army
it was not only him among the BTS members that the voice cracks bit with this it’s all focus on him. Jimin haters. any way in a recent interview prior to his album, he stated that he took voice lessons and said he started from the basics and you can tell from his recent album
2:05 why are you comparing Jimin with Jungkook? I'm sorry if I sound rude but you sound like a solo stan..
They are, that’s why they suck
They are a solo stan is what I meant, whoops I should have phrased it differently.
i don’t think it was a negative comparison but rather to show the difference between what strained vocal sounds like versus unstrained and clean. It was solely for demonstration and exemplary purposes only... not to say that jungkook is better but simply just to show the difference ... y’all make everything a problem lololol relax
@@jadefells8197 nah this persons an anti there ain’t no cover up
@@jadefells8197 Jimin now knows how not to strain his voice but hit high notes at the same time. In the LA concert He showed his new vocal capabilities.
For me Jin's vocals is heaven and i never doubted his vocals and jimin's voice is so unique, you will definitely find mistakes there if gonna compare with jk but talking of jimin , he is the best dancer sometimes I got so overwhelmed and shocked of how much control he had on his body , the way he move is unreal❤
please dont compare jimin or any of the other members to each other cause they know whats best for there self's , and comparing them dosent make it any better for them.
Not the solo stan criticizing the whole vocal line except their bias and then comparing them to their bias 🤣🤣…gotta love the solo stans *wipes tear*
I do agree that they especially jimin could improve vocals but most of the proof you used were not even from proper performances and some were just encore stages which don’t require serious singing
😂😂 what do you think the editor loves other members?? of course not she or he whatever is just a solo stan. Solo stans are sucks.
jiminsjams. Yes, Jimin has a sensitive type of voice so he gets a sore throat easily, he was sick in many clips
10 years since your favs are singing live
Not like other kpop grps who wouldn't dare to on their microphones
And got 2 voice cracks and he can't sing anymore
You know Ariana Grande have voice cracks too
Cause she sings live not like kpop bullish## of grps
Jimin sings live in his entire career
Two voice cracks are not making my boy a bad singer or doing anything at all
a solo is telling me that he can't sing cause he can better then other kpop acts
Jimin voice is the most angelic💜
Eww 👹🤮🤮
The fact that both jimin and jin only learnt to sing from their trainee days ...and after a decade into this industry you can find hardly few mistakes, speaks a lot about theor hardwork and efforts....real legends ...😂😂😂...as an ot 7 i agree, jungkook is great...but so are the rest of the members, they all are equally good, everyone has a different tone & pitch, it doesn't mean Jung kook is the only best singer or they are less than jungkook!
The fact that they made a 2 min vid out of there 10 yrs (almost 11 yrs) of stable vocals show how great they are
What I am going to say is, as a army we need to understand not everyone is perfect. That's why bighit give them each role as a dancer and vocals. BTS is a very famous band and they always perform without rest than most of the kpop group. They are always on stage and performing without rest. Plus jimin have to dance and vocal too while jk is the main vocal. Plus from my experience dancing while singing is a very tiring job to do plus u have to go on multiple performances. As a jungkook solo stan you only knows about jungkook and didn't take a chance to understand more about the other members. As a fam we should stay in peace without pointing out others bias like that. You need to know as the bts saying not everyone is born to be perfect and each have a weakness.
@@dailymemedose69 yes I truly agree
Yeah, and their weakness is not being able to sing for shit, how shameful
@@dailymemedose69 exactly 😌
So you think other bands just take rest and don't do dance performances!!!
@@jennierubyjane9321 i understand everyone kpop groups struggle but bts got into what they are now because they tried harder than anyone. We can see the amount of effort they put by watching how successful group they have become now
I just love BTS the way they are💜.
So you support 7 boys who can’t sing 🤨
@@namnation2984 they can sing well
@@namnation2984 For ppl like you, Everyone in the world can sing except bts, that's the truth 😂
@@namnation2984 your favs are no where to found even in their own country...
@@namnation2984 yes they can this 2 min vid dosent define their whole career
His encore made me come here 😂
It makes you to survive to live, doesnt it?
@@friede. Nah it just made us laugh
@@pua2504
For whom can survive to live only by someone's mistake is showing their quality life. Only miserable poeple like you!
Be aware for Jimin's success then, coz you will rot! 😅🤣
@@pua2504 Same way people will laugh at you and make mockery of you when you fail. For laughing at someone's down moment,Get ready to be disgraced.
@@BaibyDoll We expected a person who has "singer" as part of their job description to be able to sing well.
Hey, I’m not a singer, I’m just a Jimin fan. I know he messes up sometimes. He knows he messes up sometimes. He’s said it on vlive that he’s going back to the basics and working on his vocals. Not trying to make excuses for him but I think the way he’s dieting and trying to stay so thin is affecting his stamina also. I actually feel so bad for him. But his voice is so unique and so beautiful (when he’s on point) it speaks to my soul. I instantly feel so peaceful when I listen to him. I’m so happy when I listen to him and to me that’s the only important thing.
🤣🤣Those who may have hardly passed the exams are telling who needs to improve and who does not. Seriously???? 😝😝
🤣🤣bro 🔥
So you can't tell your doctor that he messed up if he gave a misdiagnosis if you never went to medical school? Stupid logic. Are all armys as dumb as you?
😅
(Please read it's reason). I've gone through a situation like jimin where I messed up ( I sing a lot cuz I'm good at it). The reason was that the music was way too loud and my voice literally couldn't be heard well, so I panicked and went too loud and my voice felt fking drained. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THE PERSON CAN'T SING, IT'S ABOUT TIMES AND ENVIRONMENT!
I agree that Jungkook has the most stable voice. And that sometimes Jimin's voice cracks. But still I prefer his voice personally in the vocal line. I find it more touching.
Sorry I prefer jk voice...
@@viviannancy9527 why sorry, it's a matter of taste.
I love jins
@payalmaurya8605he still cracks have you seen like crazy when he won it how he sing😴
i feel bad bc most of these are jimin. in his minimoni interview abt muse, he explained that hes relearning how to use his voice bc it was damaged due to the intensity of their old songs. he also has more strain than other members bc hes the only vocalist who consistently sings in the higher register out of the vocal line. plus we also know that he didnt get proper vocal training before debut. despite this, he is still the lead vocalist with a unique vocal color. i think they can always improve, but all 4 of them are at the top of the industry. theyve proved that over the last 11 yrs.
That's why Jungkook is main vocalist of BTS ❤
Lol he also has many crack moment 😂
But the video creator is JK akgae therefore he didn’t put his cracks moments 😏🤣🤣
He is bad lol
@@wise5746 send links🤣🤣
Sure you can't 😭😂
@@wise5746hey jk haters...!
@@SehansaPerera-gg3lo his jk antis,so thats why always spread hatred
My Jin❤ silver voice❤
guys it's perfectly okay for armys to still love bts but give criticism. at the end of the day it's all in hope of them
improving. they're not hating on them 😭😭😭
The title of this statement is misleading, as BTS is indeed capable of singing. Having a crack in their voice or experiencing strain at times does not diminish their singing abilities. Even the greatest singers occasionally encounter such challenges.
Labeling BTS as unable to sing based on these occasional occurrences is either ignorant or indicative of a biased perspective driven by negativity (i.e., being a hater). Every singer, regardless of their level of talent, can face vocal issues at times.
Moreover, it's essential to recognize that while other idols may have technically better voices, BTS stands out because each member possesses a distinct and unique vocal style. This uniqueness sets them apart from others in the industry. Rather than having a common voice shared by many, each BTS vocalist has a signature quality that makes their performances exceptional.
In conclusion, let's avoid making unfair judgments based on isolated instances and instead appreciate BTS for their individual vocal strengths and the remarkable artistry they bring to their music.
hunny calling the members voice off tune and strainy while calling jks voice relaxing is hating. think before u try to defend this mfs u call “army’s” 😂
This isn't cristism. On what bases are they saying this? Are they a professional singer?
They took seokjin's, taehyung's and Jimin's mistakes from here and there and compared it with jungkook's? That ain't cristism, this is solo behavior lmao
I want a full song cover from you rn!
I am sure u must be a better singer than Jimin!
To sum it up most of them have been "flattered beyond their own capabilities"
they're nothing without fandom power
@@misshandwrist jealous is not good for your health 💀
this comment section failed the vibe check big time. This is why everyone hates armys cuz yall cant even take the SLIGHTEST criticism without being hurt. Gatekeeping isnt a sign of you being a good fan. She expressed her opinion of their singing which is true.
finally someone who makes sense
What kind of a vibe is this😂spreading hate
We would have taken the criticism if it was put nice.ignoring jk’s mistakes and comparing the others with him??and did u see the title.it’s mot criticism but hate
Taehyung is a baritone and he has been forced to sing out of his comfort range for 11 years. This is only one of the rare occasions that he couldn't perform perfectly because again he has to reach the higher notes in 'ON'. But he's regarded as having the widest vocal range in the group and has been complimented by many vocal coaches. He is able to reach the lowest range while has to reach the highest note. Besides, he has done most of the growling part of the fast songs. We shouldn't forget his soulful rendition of Stigma. And if he sings jazz like It's Been Looking A Lot Like Christmas, he did this perfectly. Even the estate account of Bing Crosby fell in love with his voice. And not to forget that he could sing opera songs like a pro despite he's an amateur. Even musical directors have praised his singing.
True💜💜
Plz report this video!!
This jk akgae didn’t include JK’s crack voice moments just to degrade the other members!!
Yeah. There are so many videos like this. And comments shamelessly say we haven't seen any video of Jungkook's voice crack moments
@@wise5746 Obviously, this video is uploaded by a Jungkook solo stan to pull down the other members. Is she an Army?
@@anonymous_0281 exactly
My jimin has angelic voice ❤
Let me guess.... You all came here because you didn't believe that bts could have bad vocals
JK Biased & Jimin Jin anti 😂
CAUSE ITS 9 yrs now I believe and I’ve been army since 2015 and I have been noticing the strains and the voice crack since then and it been on going even till this day. Even though I say this I’m not hating on him, even though i know ur all gonna still call me a jimin hater. I’m saying this because it’s been so long since they have debuted and Jimins voice to me has always been having problems with strains, voice cracks and sometimes being unstable and some time also being off pitch when he performs. Like I said earlier it’s been 8-9yrs now and the fact he still has the problem it’s kind of concerning yeah I get people have off days but this has been a problem for more than a dozen times and to have debuted for so long I don’t think u should be having these problems which is why I think it’s very concerning. In my opinion out of all members I say jimin maybe has the weakest vocals skills, yes he could hit high notes but all of the vocalists in bts can do that and his voice is really really really high and most of the time the key in the notes are off. To the people that says it’s a technique or its unique ur obviously really biased, because of that so called “technique”, his vocal cords are gonna get damaged. Sorry but jimins vocal technique is not good. It’s obviously not all his fault cause u can tell he’s not getting the vocals treatment he needs from the vocal coaches at bighit cause when he performs with these mistakes it’s really obvious and u can hear it so idk why they haven’t done anything about it and teach him a new vocal technique. It honestly really suck cause I love his beautiful angelic voice but at time when I see his performances I just think how he’s gonna do cause yes I’m honestly really used to hearing his strained voice. I really hope he gets better vocals coaches to help him improve because i know that Jimin can sing and Ik he has his own sound and he for sure knows how to use his voice but his vocal technique needs a lot of help.
You are absolutely right! Others might think that this Video is targeting Jimin. But noo. He's got an angelic voice.. agreed! But he hasn't mastered the stability in his voice and It can really affect his vocal chords
For me his voice is angelic like literally not even kidding. Promise,serendipity and filter are living proof with many more. But I watched the online concert in which Minnie performs filter UK the recent one where he changes into stunning red and white outfits.
.......the strains were even more strong there it almost felt like he was struggling... But the performance was good so it went well. I solely think he needs a vocal coach and no I'm not hating. I love him. It's not hating if you tell a person you love where they can improve.
I don't know what you three are smoking, but I haven't heard an angel sing (or even talk, or even see one) in my entire life. Jimin is a hella good dancer. That's it. He sounds like a goat giving birth when he sings. How do you know that he doesn't have any vocal coach? We don't. Maybe the talent isn't there, period. I don't stan bts but I acknowledge the fact that their rap line is good, jungkook is stable, but that's it. You'd say that this is a mere 2-minute compilation of their hundreds of performances, but I am willing to bet my brother and his girlfriend that if one would really invest some time, you'd find hundreds of bad live performances. BTS sings live? Yes, we know because they sound bad. They should consider lip-syncing because they sound THAT bad.
@@Melissa-gv4et tbh I actually do agree with you, there very popular with some good songs, but there vocal line skills is kinda lacking and there not as good as most male kpop groups today and back then. like I love BTS they what got me into kpop but it sucks for me to say that there vocal line isn’t that strong besides Jungkook and maybe Taehyung I feel like his vocal and voice is good considering he was supposed to be rapper and was trained to be a rapper but yk Jhope took his spot. Lol I always imagined what if Taehyung was part of the rap line so it would be 4 rappers instead lmao but I totally agree with what you say and there songs now is kinda ehh I hope there next comeback is in Korean cause I’m not feeling the English songs tbh. Yeah so I totally agree with you
I agree I’ve been an army since 2015 as well and jimin is and will forever be my bias however he does struggle a bit with his vocal range and strains and it’s not because he has a bad voice I think his voice is beautiful, however over the years it has gotten a bit higher so I believe he is probably struggling a bit to adjust to how his voice has changed
Guess what? Everyone has an "off" moment. BTS are humans. You give it a try. You get up in front of thousands of people when you're exhausted, stressed, sick, or injured... dance and sing for hours... for days... for weeks... on tour. See how you do.
No shocker the channel is called "shining solo jk" this is a solo stan 💀
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Let me tell you ......bighit is lucky to have jimin's voice..... they don't need a girly voice in their songs as they have jimin's voice which can be hot,sexy,catchy at anytime anywhere
Although JK is overall the best singer, I prefer V and Jimin. V's baritone voice and ability to do falsettos (Sweet Night, Fix You, Love Me Again) is beautiful and interesting. When songs match his style, he's a very good singer, as seen in his Tiny Desk performance. Jimin, though not stable live, his voice is a treat in doses. Whenever his part comes on in BTS's songs, I get excited, especially when he combines his high pitch voice with a deeper tone. He contributed a lot to BTS, I think he has the second most lines in the group? Jin has a powerful voice but like JK's sounds a bit "normal".
See this performance, they are so stable! You can clrly hear their breathing sound,even the sound their outfits chain are making!
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Sorry but Jk is the best
@@mhaysantos4544for u
RM: all humans like us
Haters: but we don’t
Suga: he said HUMANS😂
I think this is kinda biased:
1. You just show 2 mins video with the latest performance is encore ON in Feb 2020. They have been improved much in pandemic era.
2. You have to show the good part of their vocals too. Even in another ON encore, they did great. So its not completely fair to only judge by one short clip.
3. I think its natural for singers who sing live to not always hit the right note. That's why theres always room for improvement. What sucks is singer who never show their raw vocal, always rely on backtrack or prerecorded.
Read the video title
Yeah coz Jimin is a dancer and got selected for his talent in dancing and he is perfect at it.
Jin and V got selected for their visual , they didn't even intended to audition . Their visuals are perfect.
Jimin V and Jin , they learnt to sing later. Imagine being able to sing like this in a short period of time..
And you JK solo stan , comparing them to Jk was unnecessary cause he is the main vocalist and got selected for his talent in singing , what did you expect? (No hate to Jk , I love all 7 of them equally so much)
And these are few times when this happened
We will never know if they were physically healthy while performing this coz they always hid their pain behind their smile and gifted perfect performances to us ARMYs as if nothing happened..
That was 7 years ago. In 7 years you must improve a lot if you have to sing, and Jimin sings a solo parts and even a solo songs. No matter what they were chosen for, now they are all singers of the number one group in k-pop industry. They can't stay where they were in 2013!
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That's true
Few times? LOL. This is just a few of the videos. I can easily find more. The best part is that it's not hard to find them.
@@SB-xi2lq look at these jimin solo stans so sad their baby waby can’t sing for shit
Wdym didn't audition? V did audition 🙄
So, yk jimin solo album has already out and in episode of suchwita jimin was the guest and he talked about his voice he said that when he was recording his solo he saw a lot of mistakes clearly soo jimin said that I worked on my mistakes that he did in his vocal so while I was listening his solo I saw that he is very improved now unlike back then
IDOLS ARE ALSO HUMAN, THEY CAN ALSO MAKE MISTAKE SOMETIMES DEFENDING YOUR IDOLS IS NOT GOOD IN SOME PLACES🙂
He hasn’t improved I just watched his solo encore stage 😑his vocals are trending for all the wrong reasons💁♀️and the thing is he has a vocal coach so why can’t he sing well???🤔can some people just not sing well or what🤷♀️
It was a fucking encore no sing seriously In the encore
The very reason I hate solos
Ikr
Cuz they spilled facts? Not shame to admit they need vocal help army shits on vocal techniques and make fun of them but this what happens when u don't have any
@@comein7958 true
@@comein7958his channel names says it all though
These toxic solo stans are worst than anties.
BTS definitely CAN sing (as everyone can sing), but they are NOT an excellent VOCALIST. Vocalist is a singer with a strong emphasis on singing techniques, which BTS vocal line lacks of (except JK). Their voices getting strained or cracked during live performances very often as they doesn't have a proper muscle and breath coordination to support their vocal cords resulting an unhealthy singing techniques. This needs to be fixed and they need more training. If this keeps happening, they may be able to damage their vocal cords completely on the long run. So, fans should really start giving concerns to them instead of always defending their mistakes.
I know they are human and they are also tired, they must have been performing like tens or hundreds performances right? But what is the difference to some other K-Pop groups? There are a lot of groups who also performed a hundred times and can still sing their notes with ease without getting strained and cracked as often as BTS. This was because those singers of the groups are a healthy trained vocalist, so they know how to manage their voices and sing their lines/notes correctly with proper vocal cords support. So, even if they are tired or sick, they can still hold notes properly. Meanwhile, BTS can even get strained on a simple stages where they only sit or stand up and sing.
I was a former ARMY for quite a long time and I have watched tons of their live performances so I know what I'm saying, and I'm not a hater, I'm simply being objective because I have been learning about vocal techniques. BTS vocals is also one of my reason why I unstan them because now I understand that there are a lot of groups are vocally better than them (I'm the kind of person who are interested on vocals so I stan groups with the better vocals). Even tho BTS is vocally weaker, their rap, lyric, and songs are actually really good - thus, I really respect Rap lines who produced/wrote most of their songs and each of them is also an outstanding rapper in K-Pop which is rare to find.
What do you mean by only jk .
You guys always forget v . He ha widest support in group
Now seokjin is super stable
Jimin and all other members are best, and always no. 1💜💜💜💜💜
Thank goodness somebody said the truth about our boy Jimin
Pls leave jimin alone..he had the shortest training period..he is so much better and improved now!
You are yg stan bit*h ask you girls to rap, dance and sing
Cause these lack in everything they do
Bruh riding on bts popularity was everything for them
@@veenasingh9837 This excuse of Jimin having the shortest training period is now old and lame.
Jimin has said he began receiving vocal lessons during the pandemic. Get with the program and stop using a pre debut excuse.
@@BaibyDoll bro listen in simple words..he is not the best singer he says it himself...he is not only a singer..and mistakes happen with humans only n he is one n got more than needed critism now move on w ur life if u have one!:)
Another thing yall have to remember is all four members have their own "comfort range" which is what you'll most likely hear in their own solo songs. I personally feel that trying to get 4 members with completely different voices and comfort ranges to all sound good live 100% of the time is easier said than done.
this is the only video I've seen that's sincere about their vocal problems, it's not like they can't improve but they haven't tried yet
Do you stalk them lol how do you know? Jin and v,s new solo songs came out they were amazing ..I can tell you don't keep up with them
JIN NOT SINGING HIS LINES PROPERLY IS THE MICS PROBLEM. HES LEGIT SINGING THE SONG THE MIC COULDNT CATCH IT BECAUSE OF BREATHING ANG CHOREOS
Solo stans before talking shit about members except their bias be like :
I've been a fan of this group for 10 years
all the paragraphs in these comments 😭😭
In their 10 years u can onky find clip of 2 minutes proves how good they are😂 keep up it's actually proving their talent .... they are also humans and the best part they don't use autotunes like others learn how to repect gurl 👍🏻 armies Will always love them coz we know how precious and talented they are❤
It's just JK whose voice is okay, the others are a bit lacking in my opinion :)
Istg
True tbh. Jk's voice>>>>>>>>>>>
Keep that opinion to yourself then
Jin's vocals are amazing....idk why a lot people say that his vocals are bad.....for me its really comforting....i really love epiphany,awake,moon alot....so please don't compare them if you are a true army....
I think this vid is not mean to bash Jin. The one who made this just simply showcase to us that sometimes Jin is off key. But yes we still love him tho.
@@afiefswift5403 i wasn't talking only about this video....in most of the videos they do not include how powerful an angelic jin's voice is...that's what i meant
hagjin vocals are tragic, let’s be real! 🤣💯
@@meiko2164get a job😂 such a loser you are to make fun of a successful man
@@afiefswift5403every idol goes off the key at some point
She is definitely a jungkook biased! Lol
Please don't compare members
They are perfect in there own
Nobody's perfect dear
Ya I didn't mean that I mean like no one play your roll better than you
@@snehapillai8306 oh sorry 💕
if jimin with that vocals -is already in its perfect form.. that sucks.
@@PatrickCruz85 have you ever heard park jimin's voice?
In 'ON' there must've been a feedback problem. There's no way all 3 of them performed oddly....
It's true that vocal lines sometimes go out of tune... But you can't say that BTS can't sing.. and you shouldn't compare them with Jungkook..I am JK stan and to me he is the bestest.. but it doesn't mean other members are not good enough... They sing pretty well.. we shouldn't compare between them.. some armies are disappointed on V for layover, I don't think he sang bad at all.. some got frustrated because Jungkook is doing so well.. duh! can't we just support them without spreading toxicity?!😪
You are saying right
But one thing the army made this video "shining solo jk" Her name
And you can understand her mentality nothing more to say.......
Jungkook is able to perform just because of support of his hyungs
And bts are shining cause they have golden maknae
No one can deny this fact
Every member is important they all have different roles apart from their stage performance and without each other support they can't do anything alone you can see
But it changes for you for black pink
@@ArtistryCrafts yes it change for those people who stan bts and don't stan blackpink
And also for
Those who only see their favorites
But let me tell you not all fans are like that
Who disappointed on layover . Only those who wanted him to be pushed again in a tenor note and sing a English note.
I am really tired of people like you all you guys always just praise jk but hate v even tho they are of same level . Just cause v is a baritone .
I am a 0T7 stan but atleast v has a organic sucess over his album . Jk is just overpromoted by hybe . They not even gave a quarter of jk promotion to all members combined
JK is just ok, have heard better vocals 😂
Most of this is because of their hard work and training plz don't hate jimin...😢they are so strained from their work......and most of idols who covers bts songs can't hit the pitch that jimin sings❤❤❤
Solo stan?
From which you can see
@@amnanafeesa4098 from channel name 👍
yeah basically bc she is crazy
Yes 🤮
Sadly, I think so 😒😒💀
BTS has great rappers....and only 1 real vocalist period....
others are just lucky (jimin jin and v)
No. Stop being over jk biased (no hate to our kookie). Even jungkook makes mistakes. You are not even a real army.
Imagine calling yourself a fan and being this toxic as if you could try and do the singing and dancing better than them, just let them be humans ffs 🙄
@@almilallimagine the group having only jk and rap line😂don’t be dumb
Joke of the year
This is toxicity at one of the highest level for someone claiming to be an army. Yall should remember that they are still people and they have the mistakes just like everyone. And personally im glad that they arent afraid of making mistakes in public where people like you can just takes those mistakes and exacerbate them cause at the end of the day they sit down and reflect on their performances so that the can fix whatever mistake they made. "thou who has no sin shall cast the first stone" the bible says.
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@@muharammhrm7778 inkinga yakho ukuthi uyaphapha nje and angeke ngiknake Mina🙂
@@zesuliwemathebula2613 english please 🤪
@@filza_rashdi4955 i agree with you 👌
@@filza_rashdi4955 hence i said im glad that they make those mistakes cz you cant learn if you have not made mistakes. you guys can back each other up to the very end but you also have mistakes ngayazshelo nje
I appreciate the positive criticism and I do agree, also I have to say thanks for being respectful as well it’s a rare thing to see nowadays.
This? Positive?