Decoding Ahriman, Satan & Lucifer - Explained By Rosicrucian Thinker Dr. Robert Gilbert
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- Rosicrucian thinker, Dr. Robert Gilbert, distinguishes between the energies of Ahriman, Satan, and Lucifer. He reveals how knowledge of these energies can sharpen our discretion and aid us on the spiritual path.
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I love Dr Robert Gilbert's brilliant and clear articulation of these complex concepts and levels of reality.. True wisdom and knowledge.
You mean there’s more than one baby Jesus, king of the Jews!?
I guess the definition of eloquence is dependant on the vocabulary & syntactical style of each individual social group.
And the definitions deemed correct, accurate and contextually tangible to each sector?
Which leaves the question….who makes the decision on definitions? If any one person at all, and how did they conclude their synopsis with generalised accuracy?
That there is always a book or system which came before, means as a person always comes second 😆; not that that is supposed to sound like a subjective sexist joke, but it does ask questions regarding the space each person requires to live in a modicum of comfort and free of distress. Whether there is something which needs to be found In oneself, or something which needs to be hidden?
I mean…how does one process ‘Rolling Stones gather no moss’, if they are themselves a rolling stone? And it’s not like it’s nearly Easter and the bored’s are waiting for the resurrection 🐣, or turning over the next century’s gravestones.
You have to be a bot.
There are several portions of the text that could be considered subjective, ambiguous, or word salad:
- Discussions of spiritual beings like Lucifer, Aramon, Christos, etc. make claims that cannot be objectively verified. Referring to them risks anthropomorphizing complex energetic phenomena.
- Descriptions of "thought forms in the mind of God," spiritual and causal planes, etc. use terminology that is not well-defined and open to various interpretations.
- Discussions of the "middle path" versus going to spiritual or materialistic "extremes" are subjective value judgments about spirituality and human evolution.
- Claims about temporal or geographical imbalances between Luciferic and Aramonic tendencies seem impossible to substantiate and risk overgeneralization.
- Discussions integrating concepts from varied belief systems like Egyptian, Greek, Jewish, Christianity without clarifying controversial translations/interpretations.
- Lengthy passages with complex nested terminology come across like "word salad" that may sound profound to insiders but will be ambiguous or confusing to outsiders.
The primary purpose seems to be discussing metaphysical/esoteric concepts using terminology familiar to those immersed in genres like mysticism, gnosticism, hermeticism, etc. However, the language is frequently ambiguous, anthropomorphic, and lacks precision, making many claims difficult to assess objectively. This type of language may be intentionally ambiguous to avoid dogmatism, allow for varied interpretations, or discuss ineffable spiritual phenomena. But it risks communicating little substantive information to outsiders.
Dr Gilbert IS THE MAN!!!!
Wow, incredible lecture, my decade long research into the esoteric knowledge has helped my understand 90% of this video. Divine thanks...
That's funny, because in contrast- I feel like the esoteric knowledge in this video has just helped me finally understand 90% of this past decade
I feel so much gratitude for my spiritual path Sri Vidya after 20 years of other sādhāna I have get this gift, everything this guy is explaining is exactly this tantra. ❤
Thank you Dr. Gilbert for your work! Thank you for your deep way of seeing and open up about. Thank you for making it all less complicated. I grew up with a balanced Waldorf group starting when pregnant with first child - and now after 35years (2 boys) only now I can understand by researching Consciousness (past 3years) how rich Steiner's messages are. Like Einstein and Nikolas Tesla have downloaded - you can feel if knowledge comes from a source connection. I never read him, but I was impressed at that time by the loving consciousness going through especially his PRACTICAL work he created - so rich - nobody I know of ever did. Steiner has bridged the shamanic esoteric spiritual knowledge! He created: A school-system. A Bio-dynamic agriculture. And once you know how it works - it is all to help us to grow into the Beings we are meant to be by helping to keep a connection to our inner Self. I just started to understand the depth!!!!!
1:09 That's the exact-same conclusion I came to.. Albeit from an Orthodox Christian background but it's good to see him elaborate on it, especially with alchemical terms..
Peace and Love to you all ♥️
You too
That was the best description of Lucifer and Ahriman paths. Thank you
What makes a person impose on themselves life as a narrative? Surely conversion and covert communication is the antithesis of spiritual health? The sublimation of self identification, to be part of a greater? That is not unity, but psychospiritual and cultural corrosion.
@@lucyhanks500pls explain in simpler terms?
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Are you sure you're using some of your words in the right context?
@@Apollyon-33What she's trying to say is that life is not a narrative. Narratives are able to be manipulated. But if you tell yourself that you can manipulate the narrative around the life you live, the balance of chaos and order will restore themselves and your narrative will tear at you piece by piece until you're reborn into a body that has no will or power. A smote of dust is all you can be amongst the vast bodies of consciousness that surround you.
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Amazing explanation of a rather difficult esoteric subject. He gave me an even deeper understanding of the 3 pillars. Such a great teacher!
Grateful 🙏
@ 22:21 THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this for ages!
Drummers do that since the beginning before we spoke. Right hand , left hand = 1 😮
Best description of Satan and Lucifer. West vs East
Satan and Lucifer are the same person. When Lucifer was cast out by Saint Michael, he became Satan. This despicable being wishes the worst to any of us.
But our Creator, the true living God wants us in Heaven, repentant and kind to one another. He can crush the ennemy easily anyday but His infinite wisdom has decided otherwise 🙏✝️🙏
@@doudsbassthis is not biblical. Not mentioned once in the Bible
24:56 Fixed relativelies within your life helps you to stay within the Christ-Effect-Flow in an Autopoietic way.
Examples of fixed stabilizers are:
Duty (Action)
Service (Action)
Meditation (Devotion)
Scripture (Knowledge)
Marriage (As a Way)
Brilliantly put, Robert!! Thank you Andre!
This is so fascinating and sooo well explained ! 🤩
This was a great talk today and it's appreciated. Kudos.
I have been studying Rudolf Steiner/Anthroposophy/Spiritual Science for 50 years. Know I was a Rosicrucian in the past. Interesting talk. Michael has ascended to an Archai and Vidar has moved into Michael's Archangel place. Michael is the Regent of Christ.
I love listening to Dr. Gilbert! Thanks for hosting a great show, and allowing us the learn more about these topics.
As a nga born in Compton growing up in hood settings... I should not understand this so well, but l am living proof! Thank you for this work.
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This was a great tutorial Thank You Thank You Thank You ! I've saw it before but I needed this again to enlighten the other things I've learned. DR. Gilbert is a Fantastic teacher sincerely Thank You ❤👏👍😊
3:19 yes even enemy (own negative thought gets a role= the contradiction =against, translates judgment, competes, dark matter translation .. very clear to understand this equazion.❤
Please dumb that down a bit so i can get it if possible
This was phenomenal
20:09 I find that acts of service without an attachment to a specific outcome, is a beautiful way to stir love as the potent active ingredient for harmony between the two.
Wow, powerful message. Dope video
The more positive I categorize my mind this present moment simotaniously fused with urs since we are one. My inspired thought = the cherry on top of the cake = the sun and ur emotions reflect
Ur
Emotions.. =‘my children’s =
✨ ❤❤❤ words are keys 🔑 bless
I'm struggling to wrap my mind around Lucifer being, effectively the good guy. But do remember reading that Jesus and Lucifer are the same.
Where did you read this? Is it a book?
@@theskepticjamaican7129 I've heard read this a couple of times over the years, I remember it simply because of the contradiction in my comprehension of the "facts"! Unfortunately I can't specifically remember where.
Yes, same archetype
Son of the Morning / Morningstar . ❤
I've known this for a long time .. I'm a Christian and I have a tattoo of Lucifer. Think more in terms of Prometheus and Jesus, not as in the new testament fallen Angel.
As someone who follows the Christian mystic path this talk is fascinating. I totally disagree with the majority of it, but still enjoyed listening to this man’s wisdom and interpretation.
Now the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,
Disagreed too with alot of it. He's very good at passing a Message though I'll give Him that
Isn't Arhiman same as Lucifer? What about Ahura Mazda??
Disagree with what...
Fantastik dr.Gilbert as always. Thank you.
Amazing conversation. Thank you. ❤
Wow. Incredible. Thank you.
Perfectly articulated. Thank you!
10:00 It's a push-pull between the Counterparts of Spirit and Matter. You cannot exclude one or the other. There's a time for Paradise Imagination and a time for Specific Calculation, within the process of Creation.
8:39 The Christ Force is the catalyst for Moral Technology... this Force expresses as Grace.
God is the Light of the heavens and the earth.
The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp,
The lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star,
Lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree,
Neither of the east nor of the west,
Whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire.
Light upon light.
God guides to His light whom He wills.
And God presents examples for the people,
and God is Knowing of all things.
The Verse of Light (Arabic: آیة النور) the 35th verse of the 24th surah of the Quran (Q24:35).
That was very good information. Thank you.
Great video! Thanks ❤
Wow. This is amazing. Thank you sir.
I was looking at some clips of the book of urantia just yesterday and they depict Lucifer In a fundamentalist way just like Robert said we shouldn't haha thanks for the clarification. I love your series on Gaia btw! Thanks
16:40 This is a beautiful explanation... thank you
Very powerful and uplifting knowledge
A brilliant human being. What a placer to listen his knowledge!
7:31 The relationship between Counterparts is stimulated and stirred in the Sacred Space between the two surfaces
Amazing explanation 💯
Thank you!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 so many need to hear this. I'm so happy I stumbled on this video. Blessings! 🙏
19:12 I'm totally digging this info
Wow i kept saying how some are so blinded by the light the refuse to see what's happening in the darkness which is enabling it to continue
Thank you 🌟
You’re a legend!
Everything is energy and energy in form and structure is information.
In form-at-ion means
(in form) & structure
( at )- a position
( ion ) an electrical charge.
This charge, is you, not complying...
This shape and structure is always one of three structures, a circle, triangle or a square. and yes, all energy is the definition of 3, plus-minus-Zero. An atom = electron, proton, neutron/ Earthe is a Sphere, a circle described by Radius- diameter-circumference/ North Pole, Equator, South Pole. Sun= plus - Moon= negative, Earth= zero.
Everything is NOT energy, you have energy frequencies and vibrations
The earth is “level” but I agree with everything else you said
OMG he knows everything!
No, that's Ken Wilber.
Thought forms from the whole.
Two polarities that cross over..
Also will form a whole where overlapping.
So they have a lil thought form too?
This made me think of james 1:17 😇 i say bravo 👏 the ones who say drink water dont see the purity of this message.... So much TRUTH keep it up leave them all awake in your wake 🗝️🦅
Watch a video titled.... KVOS Webster Reports.. The Extraordinary Equation of George Van Tassel.... Very Intriguing information
Thanks!
12:34 The Scale of Man image (as per my personal graphic design) assists well in teaching these Counterparts, without scaring the poop out of people.
I resonate with this. ❤🌹
Brilliant!
Das so faszinierende Luzifer / Ahriman Thema ganz wundervoll zusammengefasst - mit einer wohltuenden, angenehm ruhigen Stimme!
Vielen Dank, tut mir sehr gut ❤
The thing dr. Robert said about that the east part of the world is more influenced by lucifer reminded me of Rudolf Steiner, who taught about the human incarnation of lucifer in China in the third millennium b.c.
Very interesting and very well explained. Thanks a lot :)
@12:21 and I agree 100% so far.
2:43❤ as indescribable the words of keys =‘ur words become the pen artist not drawing the picture of the light knowledge =
In u…
up up. down down left right left right B A select start.
6:01 The 5 Koshas as per Vedic Science
I fell asleep abt 4 minutes in. Really good sleep video. Watch out Jason Stephenson!
Great ... Danke !
So we people say amen after prayers, could this actually be saying arihman a rendition of ahman rah?
Thanks
I wish i could master such knowledges !
As little as i know, live without eating animal blood !
The term maya or illusion it comes from the understanding that your avatar is here but your soul (real self) it just experience that. Like playing VR but when you are too long with the googles you might think theres nothing else outside of it
Thank you, my good brother🙏🏼🥳🤔 now I know why Christ called peters Satan😳🫡✌🏾🕎🧬💫👑🌞💪🏼⚖️🌎. 🖖🏼
Outstanding explanation of polar spiritual forces
Lucifer ( light) and Ahriman (materialism)
But who is Satan?
The adversary? Like in Job?
He told you in the video. Satan represents Ahrimanic forces.
@@ether23-23 The story of Satan actually comes from the annunaki myth which was repurposed in mythology, he was most likely an alien, Enki. You can make any theory out of any spiritual concept. He is wrong about Lucifer as well, he is not pure light, he is equal part light and dark, the black sun.
Lilith is she also the center in some beliefs?
So Satan is a form of Ahriman?
Knowledge action
Im not sure if Satan and Ahriman are the same entity. The modern satanism and materialism do not always go too well together theoretically. In addition, Steiner does mention Satan as a separate being at least once (when he classifies him as archai and talks about its relation to Michael).
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Ecc 8:17. then I saw all that God has done. No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all his efforts to search it out, man cannot discover its meaning. Even if a wise man claims he knows, he cannot really comprehend it.
We are on the Serpent's Path
Man I can identify so much with the complications surrounding trying to explain these concepts to others. It's so easy for me to forget that it took me years to truely understand it due to my conditioning. I rarely try anymore but I love hearing others explain it so precisely because it finally makes sense to me. Ty Dr Gilbert
Yes people will froth at the mouth with knee-jerk reactions when you say satan and Lucifer are not the same entity. Left Right Brain hemi sync. Head heart and hands / Thoughts Words and Actions in alignment ❤
According to Theosophy and Anthroposophy, Ahriman and Satan are also not the same entity at all.
Saturn is Satan dude
Of course they aren't. This man is very good with wording, which is how he hypnotizes everyone. He KNOWS things, but I feel like he distorts facts to keep deeper truths hidden. Ahriman and Satan are not the same, ''Luciferic'' spirits are not giving false-truths (they lead directly to the understanding of what you could call truth, but by using fantasy as a technique, because most people will not accept certain truths unless it is given to them in a way that resonate with their being) and angels are certainly not ascended masters, they are kabbalistic egregores based on ancient minor caananite deities (hence why their names end up in El).
Tie spirit to body through water. Now ascend the red heat. Adhuti opens when it is aroused.
In short, prepare mercury and heat. Yw.
Yay Steiner
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Codex Memory.
Christ Awareness
Yaad Pyar ...Love is Ultimatel Frequency ■☆♡
Blessings my Eternal Brother
God is Good.
God Speed
Om Shanti ◇
No not opposite beings:.. different beings.. yes
Lucifer is Feminine. NOT masculine.
Hence why he describes Ahriman as the material, and Lucy as the immaterial. Male and female, light and dark, 1 and 0.
Nothing but mythology and everyone here is praising this man's intellect. Too funny.
I always figured Satan was a ' Gnarled Being' 😊😊😊
Also in Persian there is Shaitan as the satan, I think.
No powerpoint?
So Ahriman is the Spirit behind Atheism and Materialism!🤘😈🤘😈🤘😈🤘😈🤘
1st Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,
That is exactly what it is, the teachings of demons.
So when I watch monty python, the crucifixion scene and the dude sings always look on the bright side of life lol was probably representing Lucifer lol. I have probably not knowingly when I done a song recently called The Bringer Of Light
This was very interesting. However, I do not agree with some of his points. My in-depth analysis of the Gospel of Thomas has revealed that Yeshua provides a gentle, uncomplicated yoke. My book is free from my website, it is also on Spotify as an audiobook. I bow to the divine in you 🙏🏼
I wish he would go on #TheFallenState
“Love is the force of attraction to merge back to the One” ❤
NOTICE his words of understanding are science, but description of Atma, Bliss, Nirvana are not experientially transmissible. This is much much easier than their understanding, which isn't required for the experience. Babies Bliss innately with zero understanding, the secret to its ease is getting the minds need to understand out of the way. This impulsive wave cascade is a recognizable feeling memory of familiarity that requires triggering. and there are phases to this caduscious cascade that culminate to a zero point. This feeling memory is your easy path to Soul Bliss. The mental understanding part of this prep are about your "right of passage ", your fundamental principles of Power that are applied and required for appropriate creation vs inappropriate
in his description, and I didn't listen to the whole video because he makes a huge assumption here that "there must be spiritual beings of both polarities" and there are, but we are that, the incarnated. The reason I stopped watching is because these "neg entities are not Real, they are constructs of our minds and will cease to be when we transcend them. The pos entities are us, are Consciousness that have transcended the need for that level of contrast. As stated in above comment, the minds need to understand is not clarity, clarity is Atma, Nirvana, Bliss, Soular embodiment, which the mind doesn't decide, it's revealed from that clear Soular view of Bliss, this reunified view is every Lifes initial purpose from incarnations forgetting. The mental gymnastics of traditions discipline is to only help you realize you don't need them to Bliss, to release the doubting mind for the memories recognition of your innate ability to unite yourSelf in Bliss, as you remember as a baby
I can say from experience that Ahriman and Set are two different beings. I received sight in May of 2021 and somehow was able to interact with these thought forms. Michael, Lucifer, Ahriman…. Many others. I can describe them in detail. Lucifer is a great dragon formed of red, white and blue energy… masculine and feminine energy. Ahriman is a great snake made of black fire geometry…. He’s enormous. I call home the black flame. Lucifer is of intense passion, but also to dominate. While Ahriman is of intense apathy, he is not evil at all. Both crave love but unable to find it themselves. Michael appeared to me in a bright shining light and is depicted as in many books, fair, blonde and blue eyed with wings. My favorite though is Metatron…. I know many won’t believe me … but anyway. Reach out if you’d like, I have much to tell.
You should post a video. Metatron is an intriguing character in the book of Enoch.
@@dddd-xj8ie hard to make a video. All I’d be able to do is describe my dream state and astral experiences. No, rather I’m writing a book. Let me know your thoughts or advice.
Hi I am a non human incarnate 😊
@@BlairSangeetC I hold the eyes of Anubis and bested Lilith when I was trapped in Lucifer’s staff. With the help of Abzu, Tiamat, Arch Angel Michael and the order of Melchizedek … Lucifer (actually Samayza) was banished from this Universe. Seeing into you is interesting…. I know of the symbol in your thumbnail. My number is 4; my letter is Y. I am of the Green Dragon. It would be interesting if you knew what Lucifer’s Staff looks like, do you? Mine was more like a series of alchemical transformations. Mainly of Sumerian and Egyptian. Osiris then a form of Amun Ra… Aamon. But there are layers. Or perhaps different planes of existence. I can only tell you what I experienced. I have no real knowledge as I had barely heard of such things before it happened.
Rudolph Steiners teachings are invaluable
Agreed. Steiner was a very learned spiritualist/philosopher. If you don’t already, you should listen to Manly P Hall’s lectures. I’ve gathered more wisdom from Hall regarding day to day living than I have from anyone else, including Steiner. Maybe Dr. Emmett Fox is a close second.
@kingofpentacles3213 it was Manly that led me towards Rudolph. Both their minds and teachings have altered my view on ancient teachings and practices. Should be taught in schools today.
just what I was thinking.....
Sure ... The guy who worked with Hitler and Madamn Blatzhecy
@@carlospar8057No, they shouldn't be taught in schools. Their foundation is white supremacy. Hell no. 😅
On Chessboard of Life 8×8 A+H+R+I+M+A+N (64) = Y+H+W+H (64) = Z+I+O+N (64) = I+S+R+A+E+L (64) with Latin letters as numbers of harmonic evaluation ...Archon...
LOL......the word "Satan" (Adversary) is a metaphor for the "CARNAL MIND" of man.
And the word "lucifer" refers to the carnal minded and prideful "intellect" of man......
the mind that seeks to exalt itself above the Wisdom of God .