EXCLUSIVE : Sam Bankman-Fried Interviewed Hours Before Arrest
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried speaks to Forbes Digital Assets Director of Research Steven Ehrlich from the Bahamas.
Looking more tired and disheveled than usual, and without his trademark FTX T-shirt, Bankman-Fried sat down to try and explain what happened, who was at fault and whether anything could have stopped the sudden collapse of his exchange, whose valuation reached $32 billion.
If I ever commit a serious crime I want this guy as my interviewer.
If you ever commit a serious crime, the last thing you should be doing is interviews, no matter how easy the questions.
@@jgreen802are you saying didn’t commit a crime?
He paid a lot for his media cronies
I want to know if the interviewer was paid by SBF
@@FITLIVEX Way to miss the point!
shame on forbes for enabling this criminal
Joke's on you - they never had any shame to begin with.
My thoughts exactly
Really he didn’t even press him on any of his bs just let him spin his narrative
Most people in Forbes are criminals😂 they are just being consistent.
@@FightTheByte_ ur a moron if you believe that’s there motive… there will be an investigation that will tell way more then whatever bs he spins and since when has the media cared about anything but themselves
Should’ve had Coffeezilla do this interview.
He’s tried 3 times on spaces and Sammy boy gets stressed out as soon as coffee turns up!…
@@jaimel2037 100%
It blows my mind how RUclipsrs do better jobs than actual journalists it crazy.
The one true financial journalist, he actually presses SBF
He did... The video has over 1M views by now 😂
Why is this happening? Why are you giving a fraudster a platform to try and damage control this situation. Would you do this for Madoff? Your integrity is taking a major hit.
I’ve noticed they’ve been interviewing a lot of TikTokers… Forbes is starting to look like a joke.
Let him incriminate himself. This is good work interviewing him. Maybe soft questions but now he can talk himself into a corner.
"Your integrity is taking a major hit."
Tell that to all their Hype articles about Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos), Maddoff, and SBF.
As if these people were Gods.
@@MLSFlatFeeRealty exactly. I think SBF is creating a lot of content that can be mined in legal discovery by prosecutors. SBF is skilled in manipulating the crypto media and regulatory bodies that regulate crypto but he is fallible. You definitely can’t take what he says at face value but the more he talks the more he will slip up.
They no longer have any integrity. You're correct, would they have given Madoff the platform after it fell apart? Holmes when the tech was exposed as a fraud? SBF is getting treated with kid glove. Something really stinks here, this guy sould be doing the perp walk.
This guy is literally playing a video game while saying absolutely nothing. … phenomenal. This interview alone will destroy All Forbes credibility.
I actually think he is lol
@@casanova0102on the interview sam did before this, the interviewer asked if he was playing a game and he said yes, eldin ring . The interviewer said that was rude and Sam told him to continue to the next question…. Real shjt ! Check unsuals whales interview
Forbes has credibility still?!
Not rly
They getting SBF to do interviews while he still talking. He gonna go catatonic soon.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you.... the scammer of the decade
A big serving of word salad. Really no content here, but a lesson in how to speak while saying nothing.
Exactly
And he just cant help himself, can he? Demonstration of his complete lack of impulse control.
Millennia 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait wait. You mean her wasn’t a budding Buddhist? Mr I live to give????
I stole a kit kat when I was 13 and the amount of trouble I got into was enormous. Fast forward 2022, this kids stole billions and he is on TV on a victory lap. Something is seriously wrong here.
As long as you are going to steal then steal big.
No. You guys are wrong. Before you do something illegal, buy all the politicians.
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@@LOADING...o.o.o 😂😂 exactly. He sent $40 million to the GOP and Democratic Party and was like “ok now let me get started on my scam since I’m safe now”🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ he knows he’s never going to jail
@@BiancaVienah, he def going
SBF knew exactly what was going on.
But I sleep on a bean bag and donate more than anyone to the democrats and don't shower and I'm.stupid but I have 5 billion on a secret accounts hey what can I say I don't shower
@@michaelgoodall1825 he donated three times as much to republicans
@@JTScott1988 he also stole billions of dollars tf is your point?
@@JTScott1988do you have a source or did you just imagine that up by yourself? He said he donated about the same to both. There is no way to confirm any contributions to republicans but that’s what he said.
@@edwinchenoweth4251 he himself said it. He promotes his dems giving but he was ashamed to say publicly he donated to rePUGlicans too
I feel like he thinks he’s talking to his parents about scratching their car. This is mind blowing! How did anyone think this man was intelligent and worth investing in?
Because of where he comes from, who his parents are, where he went to school and his family's contacts.
No other reason.
He is a con man. This is part of his schtick.
@@StotheEtotheB I don't see how your post responds to mine.
All I did was put forth a theory as to why people believed in him.
His cushy Silicon Valley, Ivy League school background and connected family.
I agree that people should have picked up the fact that he was an incompetent scammer from early on.
I never heard of him or heard him talk before the bankruptcy but from what I have seen now, no way I would believe that guy could be trusted with my hard earned money.
@@thenowchurch6419 You play different characters at different stages of the con. This is his dumb act. I'm sure he used a very different demeanor when getting investors.
Exactly. I’m literally shell shocked watching this.
Warms my heart to see all these people see SBF and Forbes for what they are
Frauds...bought and paid for
Boom! 💪✌️
Whats wrong with Forbes?
Good to know the system protects members of the tribe from responsibility and accountability. Sadly, we already knew this but certain religious groups submit to their real masters like good g∅yïm always do.
Pure sociopath. No guilt, extremely manipulative. It's safe to say EVERYTHING he does (e.g. this interview) is designed to free Sam from paying for his crimes.
No matter what he says, nothing will free him from life in prison
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"WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED?" This is your first question? LAME!!!
I'm sorry for the foul language but how the media is sucking his d*ck is just unfathomable to me. Completely agree with you.
I wish i could stay out of jail if i just said ill learn next time.....US is so corrupt
This is proof of class privilege. If he didn’t come from his background, he would have been dragged for his practices. But there is a glorification on him because of his parents, his education, his means.
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There’s no way he would have ever gotten to his position on just grit and smarts alone. His connections had to do with everything.
@@MsFlamingFlamer Given that FTX gave large contributions to the Democratic and Republican parties, it's safe to say that the authorities knew all this, and covered him up.
No. The thing is if interviewer was going to drag him, he could have easily left the interview. You can't force him for the interview.
@@SurajSinghTomarArya he’s not talking about the interviewer. He’s talking about the entire machine that put him in that position.
People with money and political connections live by a different set of rules in America than people in the middle and lower classes. If I had done this I would be extradited from the Bahamas and put in jail until my trial years later because I couldn't afford bail. I would be forced into taking a plea deal that goes against my best interest because I couldn't afford the millions to hire top defense lawyers. Completely different set of circumstances and results in our justice system based on the amount of money someone has whether they're guilty or not.
he's working for the government... all make sense now?
Do you realize how much taxes the US treasury pulled in off of this "scam"? I think it was over $1 trillion in 2021.
"People with money and political connections live by a different set of rules in America than people in the middle and lower classes."
It's called Neoliberalism, and Forbes is neoliberal.
Well said 👏
And rich Americans can come and kill English people in their own country and escape justice too.
He just got arrested and is soon to be extradited
@M O 👏👏👏 happy to see it.. I wonder if he'll get bail? He used his two extra weeks wisely, trying to influence the public and getting his legal team in place. Now he'll spend 2ish years and millions of dollars preparing for trial with the best lawyers his money can buy.
Don't doubt the whole thing just because some fools like FTX failed us. We are right in time with the rainbow chart and right in time with closing this downhill for good and the catalyst to that is also there now that Amazon went ahead to announce AMO5000X
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Is the $ any safer than BTC?
Forbes has deliberately given SBF a public platform to make it difficult to prosecute later. It is important to note that Forbes have through the structured approach to these questions enabled a false narrative to be presented. Elements of this rehearsed public message such as:
- allowing SBF to criticise the existing Executive and legal team with no challenge or push back on 'Sam why do you think you'd be trusted to fix this when you allowed monies to be paid out to local investors or when SBF allowed a backdoor to be created so Alameda could short markets'
- allowing SBF to criticise Caroline and Alameda with no chance for her to comment - which is standard journalistic practice.
- allowing SBF to suggest that CZ played FTX without referring to SBF''s contrived engagement with regulators to centralise crypto whilst securing a commercial advantage
- avoiding the now publicly reported Substantial payments to MSM sources to tank specific coins.
- allowing SBF to even suggest he could possible come back into the crypto sector.
Forbes showing it has lost its understanding of journalism and is just part of the bought MSM.
This is such a softball interview, it even sounds like SBF provided the guidelines for the interview, disgusting reporting.
Doing interviews make it much easier to prosecute him not harder. This media tour he's been on will come back to haunt him, there's a reason why the first advice you get from any lawyer is to stfu.
The idea that the public talking he's been doing will make it more difficult to prosecute is a bizarre one. You have that backward- wildly so
You have made a ridiculous claim about prosecution. 😂
They need to interview coffeezilla, idk why SBF keeps getting these interviews. And has he even been charged yet? This is insane that companies are giving him an outlet to spew his fake regrets
He’s in Bahamas
Its called gathering evidence
Cause he paid Forbes and coffee doesn't.
Best thing about all of his interviews is that he’s giving tons of intel to federal prosecutors. The interviews will really come in handy for his fraud trial. Looking forward to watching him spend the next ten years in federal court before he begins to serve his sentence.
Ten years! LMFAO 🤣 this is 100x Bernie Madoff! He deserves to fry for this 💩
He is not going to trial and he never was.
@@PoppysGuitar He may not be going to trial but he’s going to prison for life.
He’s not going to though. He’s already out on house arrest. Probably the best $40 million to the GOP and Democratic Party this guy ever spent. He will probably never see the inside of a prison sadly enough
@@BiancaVie If you really believe he won’t spend years in prison, you’re seriously misguided. Even if he pleads guilty and the prosecution offers him a plea deal, he’ll spend at least 10 years in prison. He’s already facing a max of 150 years so there’s no way he gets off without any prison time. Also, the Democrats were the ones who got 40 million in illegal campaign donations. Republicans got 18 million and I don’t see any of them rushing to give it back even though it is stolen money. Typical politicians. They’re all corrupt, especially Democrats cause they can get away with it considering our 2 tier justice system that only prosecutes republicans.
Well guess what we just had FTX crashing and now we have the new giant. Just few hours ago Amazons AMO5000X asset hit the roads. I think they have a better chance to run these things since their funds are pretty much unlimited?
End of the year finally some hints of revival. I thought we go 10k or lower and now this is 17k and we can jump 20k for real
Markets are already reacting, SPX, AMZN and anything on CMC
I'm out Amazon is ripping of the world enough already
Strong upwards movement here
I believe it is better than XRP
I’ve never seen someone so blatantly play a video game while giving an interview apologizing for doing just that.
Right!!! He’s like a teenage boy. It’s sickening
Is that what the flashing lights are amd his darting eyes? 😅
Interview should have immediately ended. This is disgusting.
He keeps saying I screwed it up I messed etc NO YOU STOLE AND SCAMMED PEOPLE the fact he’s so comfortable lately prior to his conveniently timed arrest shows the level of narcissism and ignorance
Forbes is complicit and should get jail time, this video only serves as proof!
this guy is insane
What did he do actually could fill me in please??
@@Ryt333 Everyone knows he committed a crime and he still did 20+ interviews against the advice of his lawyers, including this one. Need I to say more?
@@CancerArpegius Nope dude that's enough
His interviews remind me of when you watch First 48 and the suspect doesn’t ask for a lawyer and instead tries to explain their way out of the situation
Most Defs do and unless there is no case there from the beginning "telling the truth" is rarely helpful. A lot depends on whether you have co conspirators and how big a crime you committed. Sometimes tho if the def really is innocent or there are applicable valid defenses "talking" can be helpful. BUT the officer has to be fair and really record what suspect says. It isn't bad at trial if the Def's statement to police is something like, "He charged at me with a huge knife, I thought he was going to kill me so I shot him".
@@PoppysGuitar Seemingly simple innocuous “truths” can trip you up and put you in trouble - and it’s worse when dealing with a seasoned interviewer looking for something.
@@mrgatsinzi I agree but bc people invariably speak when they shouldn't I am always hopeful that there statements to police are somewhat helpful. I try to look on the bright side when they tell me they spoke to the police. Oddly enough and stupidly enough they confess to the wrongdoing and then offer an explanation that incriminates them even more.
SBF is such a child. He thinks by saying he's sorry---all will go away.
I'm happy that Forbes has FINALLY become the Comedy Channel they've been this whole time 👊.. Appreciate the laughter Forbes 😂🤣😅🤣😂🤣😜😂🤣✌️😂🤣😜🤣😂
it is surreal how calm is SBF like if it is not a big deal and everything will be ok
Detached sociopath
I think he thinks he is genuinely innocent, done a few things wrong but they are not serious enough for him to go to jail.
Good to see his screen flashing away while he plays a video game during the interview, clearly he is taking this very seriously and is VERY remorseful
Because he has been assured by democrats that nothing will happen to him. He did, afterall, funnel millions of dollars to them.
@@Cypher84X like can you even think about something without it devolving into a left/right/blue/red dichotomy? SBF gave the SAME AMOUNT to republicans but he did it other the table because he knew saps like you on "both sides" would eat it up. Grifters do not have a political ideology my friend
@Marshall Eisenberg see my other comments. He donated to RINOs that we all know are corrupt establishment tyrants that push the same agendas as the democrat party. The McConnells, Pelosis, McCarthys, Grahams, Schumers and Waters type of politicians.
@Eminent Bishop I'm not being right/left about it. I clearly said he donated to the DNC AND uniparty RINOs like McConnell, Graham, McCarthy and others. They all have the same agenda as the DNC
@@Cypher84X he gave three times more than that to republicans
I told everybody my goal was to be richer than Sam bank-man fried in 10 years and I succeeded before the end of the year!! 😆
LOL
Lmaooo
Funny how that works huh?
Now, beware of not being successful in getting more jail time than him.
@@pierre-yveschauvet5136 😆
playing LoL while doing an interview before being arrested is something you could see in movies
I was thinking the same thing. He is literally a teenaged boy who takes 0 responsibility for his actions. He’s playing the game and saying ‘tommy did it ,not me’ and we’re supposed to buy this bs
Looks like Forbes was payed for this interview
This was a fraud from the very beginning. Customer funds were stolen and syphoned off to a shell corporation the moment they were deposited.
Its like if a bank robber robbed a bank, used the money to buy a yacht, and a bunch of luxury properties in the Bahamas, and then went to a casino and lost the rest of the money playing roulette. Then he goes around talking about how dumb he was to keep betting on black.
why is he not in jail ?
Because people with a lot of money and political connections live by a different set of rules than people in the middle and lower class. If I had done this same exact thing I would be extradited from the Bahamas and put in jail until my trial years later because I couldn't afford bail. I would be forced into taking a plea deal that goes against my best interest because I couldn't afford the millions to hire top defense lawyers.
@@Seanpfree You're so right 😔
Because one needs to trial people before that.
I've reflected a lot on how to take customer funds and spead it on properties for my parents. And purchase great meals and catering with unlimited budgets. It's fun spending other people's money with high risk. My dad helped a lot in making the paperwork so I could do that. Im sorry it has to end. Thank you.
It always end.
With everything which happened recently the trust is on the ultra low level. Only hope we have left is that Amazons AMO5000X is stomping the game.
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Nah, the people behind the scam bot that powers your comments are actually the sort of people who are going to force heavy handed regulation of crypto.
Scam
Where can I buy this?
Never invest your money with a company where the CEO has clown hair 🤡
I mean that’s his natural hair. Seems a lil racist to say that yo
Hindsight is 20/20 and we were mesmerized by his juggling 🤹♀️ fish 🎣 while riding a 🦭
This interview was next level softball.
Referred to in world of PR as a wet kiss
Seeing how the media has treated this guy has destroyed the little bit of trust I had left.
You surely don’t expect the media to be disrespectful or use profanity towards him right
Being "arrested" is him being protected from the hundreds of people who want him not breathing.
just listen to him for the first 40 seconds and then you ask how seasoned equity managers could fall for this guy…he sounds like 5 yr old after he stole the cookies on the table
Perhaps he can switch it on when necessary
I didn't think RUclips allowed porn on the platform, but clearly we can see Forbes gargling on SBF's balls in this video
What a joke Forbes is. He is playing video games and Forbes is asking him softball questions. Journalism is dead
Forbes and SBF are all part of the same elite bubble.
Thank you so much for these piece, Amazon’s AMO5000X looks to have great prospect
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You shill
Rich Dad Poor Dad .
He should be talking you through glass right now. That’s how corrupt this world is!
cant believe how nice all the journalists are to him he was so blatantly guilty
Innocent until proven guilty.
@@pierre-yveschauvet5136 I know you are 😉
Every interviewer should pull back until coffeezilla gets a full interview
Money in high places buys a lot of time from Forbes.
That he has the mental „stability“ to function is fascinating to me. He knows he is going to prison for many many years. He doesn‘t strike me as the usual narcissist. He doesn‘t strike me as completely anti social either. Would love a psychologists take on him.
On AMO5000X , you've done an amazing job. How are you going to make all of these films and write all of the text in such a short amount of time? Exceptional work.
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The credibility of Forbes is the same as SBF = 0
The BS from SBF. He can try to paint the picture anyway he wants but he’s just a con man. It’s obvious to anybody who is paying attention. The only risk he underestimated is the risk of getting caught and prosecuted.
He's about to learn so much more than he ever wanted to learn. He's gonna learn something new every day.
Thanks Sam for exposing how lame the mainstream media is. Unfortunately the cost was too high for those who lost it all. Interesting to watch him find his feet through all these interviews and tighten up his lies.
He should be more concerned with tightening up his butthole...in prison
The lowest T voice for a male I've ever heard
8 hours later he’s in handcuffs and waiting on extradition papers to arrive in the Bahamas! 😹😂🤣😹
When will this obscene talk-fest end and proper justice be served
So far this is even worse than the attempt at hardball questions lobbied at Liz Holmes to save face long after Forbes initially praised her without fact-checking that situation as well
Forbes fact check😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m weak😂😂😂they would never
Good that he was arrested.
Dude, you misallocated $8 billion customer’s money as if it were yours. What do you mean you do not know about the details of your company’ accounting? Your FTT has no intrinsic value and has meant to be volatile and can go to zero. Do not BS .
It will take some time to understand how Amazons AMO5000X is having the most impact in these times. After all the downswingers and failures of this year it's about time that someone integrates assets into a useful scenario and that's exactly happening with this asset right now. It will be exciting to see how they develop this product in the future. What do you guys think? Would like to hear some opinions
my opinion is you’re a scammer
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"I still think exchange tokens are really cool." Of course, they're worthless, but who cares, they're "really cool."
That’s sad
The interviewer is more nervous than SBF - who is the fraud here?
He just got arrested in the Bahamas
He’s getting more agitated as the interview show rolled on. Rightly so as he was arrested a few hours after this latest interview.
Even the interviewer looks uncomfortable asking these bs questions
The interviewer looks like he committed the crime instead of SBF, from his facial expression and eye blinking. Well done!
If you look closely you can see the summoners rift in the reflection from his eyes
He didn’t ask the hard questions
Sam seems oblivious to the fact he is going to prison for a long time..
Not for a longtime 😂
well Sam in his own mouth says he did not know that there are improper fund transaction happened, thats just a big lie, 1st of all he is the CEO of FTX and 90% share owner of Alameda, transferring funds to a separate company you vastly owned needs an approval none other than Sam, not his cohorts. Now go back to Nov 8-10 before the bankruptcy he tweeted that there is no issue on their balance sheet but he is already preparing to file for bankruptcy on those days lol, you dont need a data or lawyer to see how guilty this fool is
He is playing a video game 😂 while talking, look at his eyeballs and right hand movements
My largest holding is Amazons AMO5000X . Glad it came out to be this. I’m a fanboy and I like Charles. He reminds me of Steve Jobs when he speaks.
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@@teddmented obviously. Look at the upvotes. It's just like them 81 million votes for Biden. Total bs.
What in bot is going on here 😂
48:00 - 49:00 ; I think keeping customer funds in separate accounts would've helped
Ahah he says he’s reflected on the pain he’s caused others. Buddy needs to spend a long time behind a jail cell before deciding he’s capable of reflection.
He has ruined people lives. F scott fitzgerald was right when he wrote that the rich smash up other peoples lives.
5 minutes in and this guy from Forbes' upper lip sweating so bad knowing he's gonna get torched for this beer league softball level interview
Disappointed with forbes cant even ask real questions
Up next on American Greed….
lol, I love American greed. white collar crimes should get life without parole because they destroyed so many lives
Why won't SBF be coming to American soil to give his testimony tomorrow? And will the politicians who received his money give him free reign / softball questions? They have a financial interest in this not being fraud.
He gets ten years, comes back to his hidden wallets worth 10 times what they were. 😂
i think he was playing league of losers on this call
seriously though, why is he web browsing throughout this interview? like he's literally clicking and talking at the same time.
The face the interviewer makes at 10:12 🤣🤣
Took me straight to an ad 🥲
Xdddd
I lost over $750k via ftx.
Good for you.
SBF is playing a video game while doing this interview.
Y’all better bring up COFFEEZILLA’s points!
Maxine Water’s sycophancy of Bankman-Fried is unbelievable.
Let’s not be racist now
Based on my personal impression of M. Waters, I don't find it unbelievable at all.
if only had he kept his mouth closed, the lawyers had an impossible task in defending him given the client
SBF is jewish
Bernie madoff was better than this one.
Madoff did not do as many crimes. wire fraud, insider trading, pump and dump, money laundering, you know, something like stealing you know. bribes you know nothing serious you know. Also very sophisticated systems with multiple companies to suck the assets. SBF is the reason why people do not believe in justice, so many people got life for a lot less. That guy is too much for me. He says we need more oversight. For a jew, he does not even know the 10 commandments thou shalt not steal. That guy needs a reality check. Many people on top knew it was a fraud and they checked out before the crash. It is always the guy at the end of the line who gets screwed. I just hope SBF stole money from the wrong guys like the cartels because those guys use bitcoins.
I predict he will bring a variety of word salad answers, “Yep”‘s and he definitely will change the subject when co-mingling of funds is raised. He’s a master manipulator and the smartest one in the room at all times…according to himself anyway. It’s pointless to have these interviews. He will dance around the facts
This is pathetic journalism.
why do all the journalists interviewing SBF seem scared to ask the TOUGH questions?? is this some kind of a pre-requisite from SBF to do the interview? The interviewer here seems... a bit stressed, a bit uneasy, not really grabbing the bull by its horns
He looks like he might burst into tears
The interviewer constantly looks likes he's about to cry. He's so nervous and doesn't want to ask difficult questions out of fear of seeming "mean"
All while playing video games , totally innocently
39:00 a major issue was the legal requirements for KYC so 50% of his Engineering was “grinding” through the requirements, but a the same time he had no reliable and effective accounting department, keen to take money on but no effort to track, record and trace what was invested in the platform
There is no right or wrong in his book
Just simple as that
Come to America and do your interviews SBF
Rip, he and Caroline should get life with parole in 30.
Me thinks Caroline got good advice and testified against Sammy boy in SDNY already, thus the arrest and quick trip to New Yawk. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. This guy is not even close to a genius. He's a con man who got found out.
Criminal Forbes. Play Sbf as a victim
"Ummm like yyyeeeknowww" "you know"