Type 1 Russian AK: The First Production Stamped AK (Updated)
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Updated to fix errors of nomenclature and production dates.
The AK was formally adopted in 1947, and went into production in 1948. In this very first form, it used a stamped receiver with front and rear trunnions riveted in place. Unfortunately, while the hand-fitted preproduction guns were quite excellent, the manufacturing processes and quality control left a lot to be desired. The stamped receiver was relatively thin (especially compared to previous stamped Russian small arms like the PPS-43), and was very susceptible to warping during heat treating and other parts of the manufacturing process. The guns that met QC requirements were every bit as good as expected, but the high number of rejects nullified much of the point of having those stamped parts in the first place.
For this reason, Type 1 AK production ended in 1951, and a milled receiver was developed to allow rifles to continue being made while the engineering and production team worked to improve the receiver design and the manufacturing processes around it.
It should be noted that the "AK-47" was the final prototype version of the gun, and the Type 1 was designated simply "AK" in official Soviet documentation.
Today, the first pattern AK47 is an extremely rare weapon, and I am grateful to the private collector who allowed me to video this one for you!
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Look out Ian! Brandon Herrera is right behind you!
That's why there's a bar over the door behind him, to prevent him from breaking in
@@sumvs5992 That's his health bar
*you may not sleep now, there are monsters nearby*
Oh no! He's too busy adoring his chauchat!
@@ZacharySkan Chauchat-chan is very distracting.
I remember my high school years in the USSR where we used to disassemble and assemble the AK-47.
Cool
We still do that in Kazakhstan, though It's we disassemble an AK74M, not an AKM
How American.
Ok that is cool about being able to have guns in school and learning how to disassemble and reassemble a ak
Do u still know how to re and disassemble a ak47
@@spoohater6949 Well, I finished school just a year ago, but I still remember how to disassembe it, though I always had trouble assembling it.
Holy shit, just saw that Amazon Prime has 2 movies with Ian in them. "Heavy Machine Guns" and "Big-Ass Guns". Be watching both tomorrow.
Prime has at least 10 - yes, ten - of Ian's docus.
That's freaking awesome, I'll have to look for the others. Thanks
It appears they are all gone now.
@@commiecrusher I saw at least one the other day I think
There are quite a few now, although rather expensive, considering the digital format. Published by Gold Harbour media, so not a choice by Ian, presumably.
Here in Indonesia our special forces have a slang for the selector switch on the AK for full auto they called it "Ok Banget"(OB) that mean great and for semi auto they called it "Ora Akeh"(OA) that mean decent
TheRealColBosch cool
TheRealColBosch For me it's Fun(semi), More fun(auto), and No fun(safety)
Slight revision: AB/ automatic is Akeh Banget, which in Javanese slang means "very many", and OA/ single-shot is Ora Akeh, which means "not many".
*and when you replace the propellant in the rounds with explosives it’s even more fun!*
@@benhardsatrio8222 and it must be based on the select file label in russian cyliric
5:20 We will set this [magazine] aside. *thump*
a review of the PP-19 Bizon would be nice :D
@Djamel Djamel If Larry Vickers can get access to Russia's Kalashnikov factory, i'm sure Ian could pull some strings and find a PP-19 to review
Good luck finding a real one
And a PP2000
I think Ian would think the same if he could get a hold of one
Not so much a review as a historical and mechanical overview.
Totally took one of my AKs out of the safe to look at it while you talked about this type one.
might as well throw in a mosin nagant and a hipoint and call it a rare collection
Pretty fascinating comparing the AKM receiver to the Type 1.
"look its your grandpa"
Were ya sad when you knew you didn’t have a type 1
Love that Ian's redoing these for maximum accuracy of information. This is the stuff FW is all about!
Kalashnikov said one of the big problems with the first stamped ak's was the heat treating and tempering of the receivers.
This brings back so much memories from the finnish army disassembling and cleaning my valmet rk62. It was a great rifle, accurate enough and not once did it jam or misfire whilst I had it. Super reliable.
Same thoughts exactly from over the “pond” with a Galil that is based on your RK62 😃
Same type of memories, except with the SAKO RK95-TP in my honest opinion; it's way superior update of the weapon in everyway, it's even easier to clean with the barrel.
For example you can clean the barrel from the inside the mechanism, unlike in the RK62, that isn't simply possible. But I knew many other people who prefer the RK62, it's just not for me unless my life is dependent on it, I'd choose the 95' anyday.
@@codenamecordon Galil is god gun. It's simply an incredible firearm.
@@codenamecordon which is based on AK.
If my rk62 had been as messy inside as Ian's, I would have had to do a few orbits around the mess hall before cleaning it again and presenting for renewed inspection. And he didn't even show what the end of the piston looked like -- that was a favorite inspection point. Interestingly enough, we were NOT allowed to clean the insides with paper since that would have taken the grease off.
I love the smell of ak in the morning
Afternoon, dusk and night on most days to I'm guessing?
Type 1 for morning, type 2 for noon, and type 3 before bed
@@bmstylee Smells like greasy steel and plywood.
I miss the smell of chinese import ammo from the 90s
@@bmstylee smells like a mixture of carbon and steel, especially the gas piston
who is binge watching all the re-up?
not really sure what Ian is "updating",but when you're like me and have selective A.D.D.thats O.K.because I forget more shit than I retain!
Update inaccurate sins 😊
Meeeee
Is he updating inaccurate information?
The most iconic combat weapon of the second half of the last century.
@@LIONTAMER3D wrong
I served in the Soviet army, if my sergeant saw such dirt in weapons, I would be very severely punished!
When your a civilian you can get away with cleaning your guns only when they need it. =P
When did you serve?
Fascinating! What unit were you in and where were you based?
When/where?
@Patrick Rapan
Considering soviet/russian army had/has mandatory conscription for every male over the age of 18- unlikely
Just watched Kalashnikov movie and now I have to rewatch these
brandon harrera would cream himself if he ever even held this rifle lmao
Today is the day
Awesome video, thank you once again Ian! The center support is directly behind the magazine well and almost contacts the "spine" of most conventional ak magazines in later pattern rifles when they are seated.
Ian, you never cease to amaze me how dedicated you are to providing the actual FACTUAL information about these awesome firearms, most don’t put that kind of effort into it like you do and it shows, much respect brother!
In Soviet Russia AK disassembles you.
Best rendition of this joke i have ever seen😂 well done sir.
Just imagine that
😫
@randomserb 0 lol
Literally.
I mean its purpose is kind of disassembling the enemy, soo.. 😂
Your channel is very serious, fascinating, and great content,keep it up!
Appreciate these type of history lessons , “ It needs to be told &taught “!!! Not forgotten nor faded away👍
i never realised how beautyful these are...
*blyatiful :)
Your best most seamless video yet. What an incredible background on this arm. Great!
Man my ocd went overboard when I saw how dirty the AK was
it’s held together with rivets, it would be so difficult to clean it enough
This is why milled receiver Sks is my all time favourite.
It's fine
Must be the best Sunday ever, four forgotten weapons videos and a Silverstone GP in less than three hours!!!
Another awesome video. You mentioned historians disagreeing with a theory. I would LOVE to see a video about the different theories and the cases for them. I have learned so much from your channel it was literally a no-brainer to patreon you. Thanks again for all your hard (and probably fun) work. :) You really do provide a great service to the community.
There are historians and there are some Russian historians, who are trying to diminish the fact that Hugo Schmeisser along with other captured Germans was miles ahead of Soviet firearm designers. Not to mention Michail Kalashnikov himself, who actually was poorly educated peasant, who first saw steam locomotive at the age of 18 and is said to have created one of the best automatic rifles in history after simply reading a book on firearms at the military hospital. That's the long story short version
@@mantasbabenskas2761 stg 44 and ak 47 look completely different internally
@@wurzel9671 - so you're trying to say all weapon designs, produced by same designer, must always look the same internally?
Also - why that kalashnikov guy never made any new weapons after AK-47? Except all those the derivatives from its original design. How strong are the chances that it's because the Germans left after making an AK? Or should I say HS-47
@@mantasbabenskas2761 I was referencing the claim often made that "the AK and the STG are almost the same internally", since that is something a lot of people still believe. Also, Kalaschnikov *did* invent other weapons.
The patina and bluing on this rifle is spectacular!
Thanks for making such good knowledgeable videos on firearms!
I love how they did the skeleton for the pistol grip. Building to a price point, seems like how most modern manufacturers do now, curious.
You don't waste materials in USSR otherwise USSR wastes you.
Really cool to see an AK47 taken apart! We had Galils during my service and they are sort of a grandson of the AK47. The Galil (5.56) is based on the Finnish RK62, which is based on andused the same ammo as an AK47.
They are really similar inside, but as far as taking apart goes, you can remove the gas tube and forward grip without any tools as well. Galils were also really reliable, blanks sometimes caused an issue but mainly due to the blanks compensator. Can’t remember a malfunction with live ammo that wasn’t because of a damaged casing or user error 😃
codenamecordon I thought the Galilis was based on the FAL?
@@zappafranklin40 far from it
@@zappafranklin40what?😂
4 video updates, this must be an early birthday present.
Thanks "Gun Gandalf"
Its gun Jesus
It’s still amazing that this rifle was developed in 1947. It still looks contemporary.
For russian army maybe 🤣🤣🤣 every 1st world country uses polymer and optics as standart for decades
I hope there will be another errors to fix cause I will watch this as many times as you upload it. So beautiful.
I read years ago in a comblock magazine that heat treatment of the stampings was an issue with the original stamped ak and premature failure was an issue
Would've love to have got hold of a kit back when they were reasonably priced. I did build a nice Type III.
I may be mistaken but the front of the trigger guard, where the magazine catch is, also looks taller. I know the AKM has a flat piece of steel sandwiched in there. Great video! I've never seen a type one AK in person. Thanks Ian, John
FF is among the best channels on youtube: informative, interesting, clear of fanaticism. Someone said on another video that this is not only about firearms but history, business dynamics, marketing, design, politics etc.
I love the noise the guns make when they are assembled and dissembled
it would appear you misspoke at 8:10, "6 o'clock and 9 o'clock" instead of 3 and 9, but it's clear it's a very minor mistake and what was actually ment.
Keep up the awesome videos!
I could be wrong, but if my memory serves me right, AKM recoil springs rod was flexible, multi part or something like that, at least the ones I have disassembled had that.
It seems like a big thing that doesn't get discussed a lot is a move from riveted stamped to later stamped AKs which I assume are spot welded stamped, particularly with so many of those rivets needing, or for whatever reason being ground flushed.
6:52 thats not a suffix, probably not worth to address but i thought id mention the difference. In numbering, prefixes come BEFORE the numbering, suffixes AFTER. So neither is actually part of the incrementing number itself. Suffixes and prefixes are used to give categories, for example WA00123 for Washington, number 123, the number increments, the suffix or prefix does not or does separately from the actual number, for example if there was a production run of 1000 guns, then another run of 1000 we could have AA1000 be followed by AB0001
So, it can be either part of the numbering, and not be a suffix or a prefix, or its a prefix giving some kind of category.
EDIT: after further reading, if these AK's are numbered in Kurdish with cyrillic alphabet (they aren't afaik) then you could call this a suffix, since the reading direction of the serial number would be inverted.
I have a 1956 Original AK 47 Russian, auto and semi too.
Живу в Ижевске и не знал об этих ранних моделях, надо же. Спасибо, Йен! Видео понравилось, я на самом деле увидел нечто, чего не видел :)
I live in Izhevsk and I didn't knew about this early models! Thanks a lot, Ian!
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@@Govrin. He has the thanslated text under the Russian text, can you even read?
Всё же, кажется, правильнее Иан)
там же музей должен быть, сходи
worldoftancraft Иэн
on the original Ak-47 it was a stamped metal dust cover that was a full millimeter thick and was smooth but that added weight to the gun and was harder to produce so then on the Akm the dust cover is half a millimeter thick and has rivets on top of the dust cover to keep it's strength and that also made it more easy to make and was cheaper but also on the Ak-47 on the gas tube there was little holes drilled into the gas pistons tube but on the Akm theres no holes in the gas tube at the end at the gas port is where the holes were all drilled
That Type-1 example is B-E-A-UTIFUL. Compared to most folks, I've seen a lot of T1s, and none compared to the condition of this one! It's remarkable!
I had no idea how many differences there were between first production an AKM.
The AK is the Swiss Army Knife of military rifles. The OG of select fire rifles. My heart melts everytime I see, shoot or handle one.
So this a original ak-47 not an akm it's a miracle it survived this long
damn you Ian i couldn't resist this one.
a quintuple upload? my morning is made
That's the first time I've ever gotten to see a "type one", only ever heard about them, most of fifty years, including two decades in the Corps. Semper Fi, thanks.
funny to think that the first issue magazines were made with thicker and more durable steel than the guns itself.
I noted you didn't mention, quite a few of the the biggest design changes . There are a few additional parts added mostly to the FCS, with the Type II and AKM. Mostly dealt with rate of fire and controllability. Many changes were made after the Type I. Many of the things that were ignored were directly related to the select fire system, so part of me thinks the exclusions were intentional.
It would be a great video if you could have all four major variations, to compare. Thanks it was a fun video to watch 👍👊
It's hard to talk about how a full auto trigger mechanism works on RUclips for guidelines reasons
Fantastic video! Loved it!!!
I wrote a paper in college on the AK-47 and the Soviet arms industry. The very real world view at this point for the soviets was that they would flood the colonial world with these weapons to bring communist revolutions. It’s why they are built so rugged and why they’re designed to be mass produced beyond what even the Soviet Union would need.
This strategy was driven mostly by political and social factors. What they ignored were the military and economic realities. First they were basically giving away these weapons instead of trading them for resources. While they did get some return it was a very one sided trade that often did not pay off. The second issue was devoting so much attention and resources to producing weapons prevented their economy from actually meeting the needs of their own people.
The desire to turn the rest of the world communist meant that they spend at one point nearly 25% of their GDP towards arms production and a massive portion of this was for export. The planned economy put more emphasis on exporting weapons than producing cars and other good for their own population.
The AK seems to almost be an analogy on this. A rugged and well built machine built to fight a war that never happened. At the peak the Soviet Union produced 100 million of these, yet the average citizen didn’t own a car.
Excellent video-thank you!!
I had another partial type 3 set that I made a grip skeleton for and used a type 1 grip. I LIKED THAT GRIP BUT SOLD THE PARTS OFF.
I have heard an alternate theory regarding why the USSR went to the milled Type II and III. The explanation was that the USSR had an urgent need for stamping machinery for higher priority items and to keep workers employed at the mills as they transitioned the industry to stampings, the AK was changed to a milled receiver. By 1959, they had stamping capacity, and in the intervening years, Kalashnikov improved the stamped design.
Do you have any documentation of that theory?
Awesome video!
The most iconic gun of all time.
Love your videos Ian.
Do you have any interest in the history of larger weapons...crew serve mortars and such?
I like the fluted gas piston. Seems like a sneaky way to save a little weight.
The rear handle is made of a material that is called ( Tekstalit). It's a "Composite epoxy material" Very common in sovient production. Also, AK Bayonet is made of the same material. It's Strong and cheap to produce.
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His name is gun jesus
Great video so far,
just want to add some corrections.
#1 Type 1/2/3 are incorrect names for the models. These AK's were called at Izhevsk with № and comment. Something like AK №1 stamped, AK №2 with lightened barrel box. AK №3 with a folding stock etc.
#2 How Schmeisser could have helped with the stamping process if
1. He was a designer, not a technology process engineer.
2. Haenel company for which he worked did not produce stamped parts
3. Stamped parts were made at Merz-Werke company and later assembly process was performed at the Haenel, ERMA, Sauer&Sohn and Steyr
4. If he didn't have an education as the engineer-technologist and his company didn't have experience in stamping how could he have helped at Izhevsk
5. Strictly speaking, stamping technology required for Stg-44 is quite different than one for an AK because of the locking mechanism and different energy of the cartridge (plus its different, German way of making stuff). I would understand if you would have compared Sudaev's AS-44(АС-44) and Stg-44 stamping technologies somewhat because both of these were made out of thin steel sheets. These are comparable
6. 7.62x41 (initially) and 7.62x39 are new cartridges at a time and quite different from US 7.62x33 and German 7.92x33 cartriges, so how Germans could have helped with manufacturing process of the type of gun which used unknown cartridge for them with unknown energy parameters. German stamping 'traditions' are different than the Russian ones. Simply speaking these are tubes vs boxes. Even guns like G3 have quite a distinct manufacturing process than anything else made in Russia or US for example. In addition, AKM's used new sorts of steels, and relatively thicker ones to start with.
7. If you say that's a theory, its better to provide maybe Russian or German documents (these are available) which justify your point. Theory without any documentary support is nothing more than assumption.
I'm sorry if my comment sounds a bit too rude
I will be glad if anyone could provide me a memoirs, documents or anything documentary that could prove a point stated in the video, because that's relatively interesting topic
The Type 1/2/3 designations are not intended to be factory designations, they are the names in common use by the English-speaking community.
As I said, the role of Schmeisser is disputed.
We don't normally use "type" as a synonym for "model", but we do use it to distinguish between different variations of something.
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Ian, I am pretty sure that what you constantly refer to as "Quality Control" issues are "Production Control" or "Production Quality" issues. Quality Control typically does not "create" issues /problems, rather it prevents issues /problems from being implemented /released out the door.
7:00 "Г" es la letra "G", por "года/goda".
"Г" como en "голъ". Perdóne, mi español es muy malo.
@@bryceforsyth8521 It's ok, i am a native speaker, and that "perdone" is a formal way of reffering to an older person or someone who is on top of you in a pyramid, so it's ok.
This weapon is never forgotten
If I heard correctly, Izhevsk Arsenal is where that early AK was made. If so, they also made Mosin-Nagants as well as the stuff Ian cited. I know this because I have a 1943 Mosin-Nagant, with a clear Izhevsk Arsenal mark.
I thought it was funny that he said they didn't make that much stuff and weren't a major arsenal when they built millions of Mosins🤣
Epic video! Love it in 2022!
The brown Bess, the colt revolver and AK47 are truly genius for their time. What's next for us?
This was in my recommended after Brandon’s most recent video about his Type 1 lol
Very cool information
It would be great, if you would make a comparison video with the Type 1 and the Type 2.
The AK is a vary good weapon! It is one of my top 5 rifles to own!
i found one of these in afghanistan in 2006, it was still in operation. what an excellent weapon
I love ak type rifles. My favourite is a genuine classic ak47, followed by an akm with dark black metal and a light shade of wood with a waffle mag.
My fav rifle is the SVD equipped with a 20rnd magazine and an OKP-7 sight.
Great video. as always. Excellent shots of the all important "safety sear" as the Russians call it. I now see how the safety sear spring holds it's pivot pin in place, along with the hammer and trigger pivot pins-ingenious!-John in Texas
I have a VZ52 Police carbine (She' rifle- Czechoslavakia) in 7.62x39, with "A.K." stamped on the barrel shroud.
I’m back !! 🗣 woot woot ! Great video broski 👍🏼
Awesome knowledge
My dad is a Machinist. Personally we prefer SKS over AK because neither of us has been able to get consistent accuracy from any AK variant as SKS. When Ian says "that worked" referring to type II. I could hear my dad 30 miles away saying "well duh". Though shouldering and carrying a tank turret isn't feasible in battle unless you are Jesse Ventura. I would love to someday own a type 1&2
It's just that some people have their hands attached right to their ass. Give any rifle to such assholes, they will definitely hole their leg with it.
Loved it great info
Great video
Great video .
Beautiful !
Any chance you could add errata when you do these updated videos? I'm curious what you changed but I have to make time to watch your videos the first time as it is.
You cover the stock and right after the bolt receiver it looks like a super cool 1911 style pistol with that grip lol
Great video as usual!
They need to start making 7.62x39 AK pattern rifles with barrel twist rates that make sense. The roughly 1:10 barrel twist on most of these guns is terrible for stabilizing typical surplus 123 gr. bullets. This twist rate was selected for economical reasons, as it allowed the Soviets to continue to produce .30 cal barrels on the same old tooling they used for mosin nagant rifles. It made sense at the time for efficiencies sake, but they should have shifted production after the tooling wore out. Now the whole world thinks a 1:10 twist is the best way to produce 7.62x39 Kalashnikovs when in reality a 1:16 twist would be much better for typical surplus ammo.
nice review of my product, comrade!
Very cool video
I would love to have a AK type 1 and an AR 10. Thats literally the best of both worlds. You're a lucky man if you own the first AR and the first AK I am very jealous of you
wow that bolt and bolt carrier look almost brand new
Beautiful
God i love the look of the Type 1
IGI 1 still use them. And they are glorious.
This is so cool
Stamped sheet metal you say
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