Any idea why the standard cluster without the gauges has two illumination wires? Also does the wiring diagram that you posted also work for the Monte Carlo and Malibu?
I’m currently in the process of swapping a ‘95 Silverado gauge cluster into my ‘79 El Camino. This video really helped show what I needed to start with. Thanks
Great video very informative. I remember doing this on my cutlass and I found it easier but took my time with it, to take the harness pins out and relocate them using the ralley harness as a guide.
Great Video Brian. My 80 Cutlass Supreme did not come with a clock from the factory, but I noticed while replacing lights in my cluster that it had the wiring harness in place for the clock and had power to it. I went to the wrecking yard and found a car with a clock and the correct wood grain trim piece with the cutout for the clock. I purchased the clock and the trim piece and installed them. Easy upgrade since the wiring harness was already there and hooked up.
***** Yeah i did the same on my 80 cutlass back in the day. Many options are plug and play if the wires are there. Courtesy lights are another plug an play upgrade. Same with trunk release.
I try to follow along in this video but my 84 was a Chevy swap when I got it and everything has always been sketch and out of place ever since I got it.
Great video! Do you know if the screw holes on the green plastic housing are in the same position from the standard granny cluster to the rally cluster??
What do you do if your speedometer needle starts to tick? I was told to put oil but where? I have the same as the granny style but brushed metal..? thank you
i started doin this. interesting how he skips removing 37 bolts and completely disassembling gauge cluster to get it out. cuz mine wont just pop out...how does the gearshift marker which sits vertically in a horizontal slot get removed w/o disassemling gauge cluster?
Hey love your channel is there a way I can install a inside door handle inside the 1979 cutlass Calais without taking off the door panel? and a way to diagnose why a electric window stopped working??
Mine is also a V6 that came from Factory with rally gauges that worked fine and then stopped and then work fine and then stopped and has not worked since
I just picked up a rally gauge, excited to install it in my 88 cutlass supreme classic. Do you know if the cluster needs power in order to reset the trip?
Please follow my dash removal video found in my Gbody How To Play List. You will need to remove the dash in order to swap a dash harness. Once the dash is out then it is easy to remove the old harness and swap in another.
How did you handle the shift indicator? The rally gauge cluster you show does not have the shift indicator. Can you swap that from the original "granny pack" cluster? I am finding the rarest of things is a rally cluster from '86 - '88 that includes the shift indicator with "OD, D, 2, 1". What you show is a pre-'86 cluster with only "D, 2,1". Those '86 - '88 Cutlasses had some very weird option packages. Like cruise control with no tilt steering wheel. Or power locks without power windows. Another weird (and very rare) was the Brougham package (pillow-top bench seat, column-shift, & rally gauge/wheel package). Ahh...the '80's. Gotta love it!!
Was following the video everything was going well until I went to put the rally cluster in. It looks like the speedometer is not lining up. The white plastic piece is in the way of the new one. So apparently the old one and new one don't line up when it comes to the Speedometer. I am going to try and take the rest of the back black part off to see if that can be adjusted. If you have anything on that, that might help it would be appreciated.
Hi I just did the swap but havining problems with the oil pressure switch my old one has 3 wires. And the switch has 1. Do I splice all wires together or use 1 wire? Ifn1 wire how do I know which is the main.
MrSimpleFuK The fuel gauge works off a one of the wires on the main plug behind the cluster. As long as you have them in the correct order it will work as it normally would.
Do you have a sight I can look up where where my illumination wire runs ? Don’t have dash lights because it’s not getting power to that wire . And I don’t know where it runs and don’t feel like taking the entire dash out just to trace it down 😔
I dunno why didn't NHTSA outright ban these granny style clusters and mandated tachometers instead. This is what should've been done in response to the oil crisis instead of the ridiculous 55 mph speed limit and 85 mph speedo.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage The federal government got it wrong, there are several things they could've done like requiring tachometers in new cars instead of the ridiculous 55 mph speed limit and 85 mph speedo.
You need the entire cluster with housing and then you need the correct main plug from the cluster so you know how to re-pin your main plug to work with the gauge cluster. Swapping sensors is the same as in this video.
Will the tach filter will also keep any ignition noise out of say an aftermarket stereo system with an amp ? I've had it where I had a whine sound from them but I forgot what the cure was it's been a minute.. like 20 yrs worth of minutes lol
What's up GMan, appreciate all your Videos, good work.. I got a quick question, I have a 84 El Camino, and my question is,,, I only feel the air comming from the floor, how do I get the air to blow from the vents??? We're should I start looking?? You think I have a bad vacuum leak?, bad diafram? I'd appreciate some G Body advice... Keep on keepin on with the Videos. Thanks.
carwasher420 Yep a vacuum leak. Start at your source of vacuum which is your engine and make sure your lines are good going to the vacuum bubble which is your source for the vents.
Is that car or was that car a true diesel? I have never seen one in Canada. Diesel that is. I have had quite a few Chevy's over the years. I never did own a 80's G body. The closest to a g body I owned was my 1978 Chevy Impala 2 door with the wrap around rear window. I owned that car for many years and I did a lot of things to it. I installed a 383 stroker, A built up turbo 400 and installed a Ford 9 inch rear diff just to handle the power. It was a heavy car but also a fun car. I had a toggle switch under the dash connected to the electronic ignition so no one could steal it. Well I thought anyways. It was stolen about 1 month after I had the turbo 400 rebuilt for the second time. The transmission shop were the only ones who knew where the toggle switch was. About 2 weeks after it was stolen, the police found the car minus the engine and trans in a back alley many miles from my home. Someone from the transmission shop needed it more then I did I guess. I was pissed to say the least and was out $10000.00. I got the shell back, threw a 350 and a turbo 350 from a junk yard into it and sold it. I was not going to go through this again. Sorry for the long story but the 1970's through the 1980's were some of my favorite Chev's.
Can you post a video on how to connect the cable that’s behind the speedometer cluster to the gear shift that shows park, reverse, neutral, and drive? Some one tried to explain to me how to do it but a video would really help. I have a 84 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Brougham with a steering column gear shift.
Sometimes the cable breaks or the plastic tab breaks. You then have to remove the cluster and there are two 7mm hex head screws that hold the gear selector in place to the cluster, Remove them and find out what happened. The other end of the cable fishes through the dash down to the column and clips on the column sleeve. You need to remove the vent bezel under the column to see it. I can do a video but won't be for some time. Hope this helps you in the mean time.
Hey there, my brother has an 87 regal with the 307 olds, he has the sweep guage with the idiot lights. He wants to install an aftermarket oil psi and water temp gauge but then again wont those idiot lights be off all the time? is there a way to get rid of those specific idiot lights or will we have to deal with them being on the whole time.
My rally pack on a 85 Cutlass the only two gauges that work or tach and speedometer the other four remaining does not I need help have any ideas? I'm thinking ground that's what everybody tells me
You need to swap out the ENTIRE housing as the sweep style housing is different than the gauge housing. Once you have that you follow most of the same process. The main plug pin layout is different so if you can find a gauge style plug you can the reconfigure yours
Which oil pressure elbow can i use for a 307 1984 Olds motor? I will retrofit the original rally pack gauges to my Delta88 Olds car. I had all the components, only the elbow is missing. I believe that the elbow use 1/8NPT Is that right? Greetings from Germany
if the 78 malibu has the gauge package and you are just swapping the gauges it will work, if the malibu has only the speedo then you mus swap the entire housing and dash harness.
+Classic G-Body Garage I'm swapping a 86 Monte rally cluster gauges with the original 78 Monte Carlo one that just has speedometer. what do I have to do? I see the connector needs to be rewired on the one in the video but am a little confused now
Hey man i need your help respond to my comment on your Rear end video, Wanna know how to take out rearend with brake lines still hooked up to drums, and how to disconnect parking brake cable from drums and how to hook them up
I saw your other video too on your 78 Cutlass. I have a 79 Hurst Olds. To me it looks like the ralley pack gauges on a 78-88 Cutlass look identical - is that right? And if so, is the circuit board the same??? I do know if so, I cannot find a vendor ANYWHERE that sell these.
+ahafan64 They are all the same 78-88 but gauge faces are different from year to year give or take. All boards are the same. No one makes them that I know.
The only thing you ever show is a gutless cutless! How about the cluster in a 78 monte carlo. Those 2 are way different in every way. Looking to put a 1986 ss monte cluster in my 78 monte carlo
I show the Cutlass because I have the car to perform the work needed. I don't have a Monte or Malibu that needs a swap to create a video. Bring yours over and we can put a video together. On a Chevy, you need swap out the entire housing as the sweep speedo housing is different than the gauges style. If you can get the gauge plug off the monte harness then that will help otherwise you have to repin your plug. Swapping the engine sensors is the same on a your lightning fast 78 Monte and a Gutlass Cutlass.
Do you happen to know if the Cutlass non-ralley and the Malibu non-ralley clusters are the same dimensions? I'm looking at the Dakota Digital dashes for Cutlass and want to put one in my 78 Malibu with the non-ralley, since they look the best. Thanks!
I noticed that your sweep gauge has your shift indicators (PRNDL) and the rally gauge doesn't. How did you remedy that? The rally gauges with shift indicators are rather hard to find, especially with the '87 and '88 Classic models with the Overdrive (PRNOD21). Thoughts?
Its just a rare option thats pretty much it. Cars were ordered with bench seat and gauges especially the 4 door cars into the 80s that offered Overdrive.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage No, what I meant was that you are replacing a sweep gauge WITH shift/gear indicators to a rally cluster WITHOUT shift/gear indicators. How do you know what gear you're in? And if you were to find a rally cluster with shift/gear indicators how would that change the installation process to align things properly?
Clip on the back side. You need to unscrew the cable from the trans and the small bracket that holds it to the master cylinder. You need slack on the cable first. Remove the cluster and the cable slack comes with it, then push the tab on the back of the cluster.
What does the little white part that the speedometer cable is held on? And where do I get one? I'm trying to hook up my cluster but cant get that wire in and cant reach from underneath the dash.
@@FEDERALBOYSENTERTAINMENT I never found the white piece but finally was able to get the cable in. It took like 5 hours, you need someone with small hands
You need to swap out the entire gauge housing for a Malibu/Monte and also repin the plug. Swapping the sensors and adding the tach harness is the same.
+Classic G-Body Garage I checked with NAPA. The, only, tools set they have is for carb adjusting on the bottom & sides. I need the tool to adjust the MMC - Mixture Control Solenoid located on top toward the engine.
Autometer has a direct fit replacement for the Monte Carlo www.autometer.com/direct-fit-chevrolet-malibu-el-camino-monte-carlo-82-87-5-2-5-8-black.html
Who cares about the rally package? Its the last of the muscle projects available. I think the old gauges look more period correct! Add a drag racing tach if you want to make it a street machine!
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Any idea why the standard cluster without the gauges has two illumination wires?
Also does the wiring diagram that you posted also work for the Monte Carlo and Malibu?
@Printisss Graham follow along on the video
Hi, friend How can I remove a dash from an oldsmobile brougham I think it's model 84
@@edgarparra5131 i have a video on dashboard removal. Please check out my channel
Hey can you remove the whole non rally dash harness and replace it with the rally harness instead of re wiring the plug? Thanks
I’m currently in the process of swapping a ‘95 Silverado gauge cluster into my ‘79 El Camino. This video really helped show what I needed to start with. Thanks
Excellent. Glad it helped you out.
I converted my 80 el camino from a sweep to gauges , very similar . Good video for the g- body cars .
How did you convert it?
@@samuelrobinson7893 . maliburacing.com/gauge-conversion/.
How
Very nicely explained. My 87 Cutlass has the rallye gauges as well but needs to be replaced due to sitting up for many years.
That was a great overview, I was always wondering if the cluster swap was possible. good info.
Great video very informative. I remember doing this on my cutlass and I found it easier but took my time with it, to take the harness pins out and relocate them using the ralley harness as a guide.
I just purchased the Dakota digital a little pricey but none of my gauges work.cool video thanks 👍🏼
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate the videos. ❤
Hope it was helpful!
I love gage cluster better than other one that you show the 2 one
Great Video Brian. My 80 Cutlass Supreme did not come with a clock from the factory, but I noticed while replacing lights in my cluster that it had the wiring harness in place for the clock and had power to it. I went to the wrecking yard and found a car with a clock and the correct wood grain trim piece with the cutout for the clock. I purchased the clock and the trim piece and installed them. Easy upgrade since the wiring harness was already there and hooked up.
***** Yeah i did the same on my 80 cutlass back in the day. Many options are plug and play if the wires are there. Courtesy lights are another plug an play upgrade. Same with trunk release.
Thanks for the video! I just bought an 88 cutlass supreme classic.
awesome have fun with it!
OUTSTANDING THANK YOU!
This video was very well done. Thank you for this!
Awsome video.
I've burned out the right turn signal indicator in the gauge cluster so this video helps on how to get access to the gauge cluster.
excellent!
thanks for all this good information
Thanks for watching
It would appear that the rally cluster is intended to be used with a center console floor shifter. I don't see any PRNDSLs on it.
dogbyte555 You can find them with the gear selector in them but harder to find as most were a console option.
How do you access the G-body ignition switch and headlight switch on a 1987 Monte Carlo? Looking to do a remote start in one. Thnx
They are both located on the lower steering column shaft under the dash.
I try to follow along in this video but my 84 was a Chevy swap when I got it and everything has always been sketch and out of place ever since I got it.
The engine does matter. Just need to make sure you swap in the correct type of oil/temp sensors.
Chevy was always a PITA to work on, Oldsmobile and Buick always had some common sense
I always found that chevys were even simpler ..
I need that diesel cluster you pulled out
classicgbodygarage@gmail.com I may still have it.
Great video! Do you know if the screw holes on the green plastic housing are in the same position from the standard granny cluster to the rally cluster??
What do you do if your speedometer needle starts to tick? I was told to put oil but where? I have the same as the granny style but brushed metal..? thank you
I've the same problem but it bounces back and forth as it clicks. It sometimes vibrates a lot instead.
i started doin this. interesting how he skips removing 37 bolts and completely disassembling gauge cluster to get it out.
cuz mine wont just pop out...how does the gearshift marker which sits vertically in a horizontal slot get removed w/o disassemling gauge cluster?
Hey love your channel is there a way I can install a inside door handle inside the 1979 cutlass Calais without taking off the door panel? and a way to diagnose why a electric window stopped working??
You must remove the door panel to do any work like that. Test the power to the motor, if there is 12v then the motor is bad or the switch
by any chance can you do a video on how to fix the fuel gauge?
Did you ever fix it?
Mine is also a V6 that came from Factory with rally gauges that worked fine and then stopped and then work fine and then stopped and has not worked since
Follow my video on how to repair Rally Gauges and you can fix them.
I just picked up a rally gauge, excited to install it in my 88 cutlass supreme classic. Do you know if the cluster needs power in order to reset the trip?
The trip is all mechanical.
I have a 85 monte carlo and I need to do a wiring upgrade. can you make a video about replacing the dash harness
Please follow my dash removal video found in my Gbody How To Play List. You will need to remove the dash in order to swap a dash harness. Once the dash is out then it is easy to remove the old harness and swap in another.
+Classic G-Body Garage Thank you. Should I remove the steering wheel also?
what about a v6 cutlass? what sensors do i need to buy? or do i take them off the v8 cutlass that i found in the junkyard?
Do you know the part number for oil and temp sensors?
At 3:49 what is that plug called mines is missing on a 88 cutlass supreme
its the main gauge plug. no specific name for it.
How did you handle the shift indicator? The rally gauge cluster you show does not have the shift indicator. Can you swap that from the original "granny pack" cluster? I am finding the rarest of things is a rally cluster from '86 - '88 that includes the shift indicator with "OD, D, 2, 1". What you show is a pre-'86 cluster with only "D, 2,1".
Those '86 - '88 Cutlasses had some very weird option packages. Like cruise control with no tilt steering wheel. Or power locks without power windows. Another weird (and very rare) was the Brougham package (pillow-top bench seat, column-shift, & rally gauge/wheel package). Ahh...the '80's. Gotta love it!!
Was following the video everything was going well until I went to put the rally cluster in. It looks like the speedometer is not lining up. The white plastic piece is in the way of the new one. So apparently the old one and new one don't line up when it comes to the Speedometer. I am going to try and take the rest of the back black part off to see if that can be adjusted. If you have anything on that, that might help it would be appreciated.
The white insert in the dash? Remove it and you will be fine.
Hi I just did the swap but havining problems with the oil pressure switch my old one has 3 wires. And the switch has 1. Do I splice all wires together or use 1 wire? Ifn1 wire how do I know which is the main.
How do you hook up the fuel gauge when you do the switch on cluster great video by the way
MrSimpleFuK The fuel gauge works off a one of the wires on the main plug behind the cluster. As long as you have them in the correct order it will work as it normally would.
Do you have a sight I can look up where where my illumination wire runs ? Don’t have dash lights because it’s not getting power to that wire . And I don’t know where it runs and don’t feel like taking the entire dash out just to trace it down 😔
You need to get yourself a GM service manual that has the electrical schematics.
I dunno why didn't NHTSA outright ban these granny style clusters and mandated tachometers instead. This is what should've been done in response to the oil crisis instead of the ridiculous 55 mph speed limit and 85 mph speedo.
No, GM kept the granny style into the 90s with the front drive cars.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage The federal government got it wrong, there are several things they could've done like requiring tachometers in new cars instead of the ridiculous 55 mph speed limit and 85 mph speedo.
Can you tell me what wires to swap to put a monte Carlo rally cluster to a stock malibu sweep style
You need the entire cluster with housing and then you need the correct main plug from the cluster so you know how to re-pin your main plug to work with the gauge cluster. Swapping sensors is the same as in this video.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage is there anyway to know what colors do what ?
@@wadedog4280 GM Electric Service manual for the year car you have. Or maybe a search on line would work.
Will the tach filter will also keep any ignition noise out of say an aftermarket stereo system with an amp ? I've had it where I had a whine sound from them but I forgot what the cure was it's been a minute.. like 20 yrs worth of minutes lol
make sure your motor is grounded to the body.
I'd definately advise anybody to take the time to remove the terminals and re-pin them to preserve the integrity of the wiring harness.
Wich ones are for fuel
is there any reason someone would do this but leave a black wire seperate on a square push clip? i seriously need help fixing my cluster
email me classicgbodygarage@gmail.com
Ok
How does the white plug disconnect from the cluster back.
Does it come forward enough to push each wire out and replug in correct spot ?
The plug stays in the dash and the cluster just pulled out.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage , how do you get it out to move the wires
What's up GMan, appreciate all your Videos, good work.. I got a quick question, I have a 84 El Camino, and my question is,,, I only feel the air comming from the floor, how do I get the air to blow from the vents??? We're should I start looking?? You think I have a bad vacuum leak?, bad diafram? I'd appreciate some G Body advice... Keep on keepin on with the Videos. Thanks.
carwasher420 Yep a vacuum leak. Start at your source of vacuum which is your engine and make sure your lines are good going to the vacuum bubble which is your source for the vents.
Is that car or was that car a true diesel? I have never seen one in Canada. Diesel that is. I have had quite a few Chevy's over the years. I never did own a 80's G body. The closest to a g body I owned was my 1978 Chevy Impala 2 door with the wrap around rear window. I owned that car for many years and I did a lot of things to it. I installed a 383 stroker, A built up turbo 400 and installed a Ford 9 inch rear diff just to handle the power. It was a heavy car but also a fun car. I had a toggle switch under the dash connected to the electronic ignition so no one could steal it. Well I thought anyways. It was stolen about 1 month after I had the turbo 400 rebuilt for the second time. The transmission shop were the only ones who knew where the toggle switch was. About 2 weeks after it was stolen, the police found the car minus the engine and trans in a back alley many miles from my home. Someone from the transmission shop needed it more then I did I guess. I was pissed to say the least and was out $10000.00. I got the shell back, threw a 350 and a turbo 350 from a junk yard into it and sold it. I was not going to go through this again. Sorry for the long story but the 1970's through the 1980's were some of my favorite Chev's.
Awesome stories man! Yeah the one car I show was a factory Diesel but won't be any longer.
Can you post a video on how to connect the cable that’s behind the speedometer cluster to the gear shift that shows park, reverse, neutral, and drive? Some one tried to explain to me how to do it but a video would really help. I have a 84 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Brougham with a steering column gear shift.
Sometimes the cable breaks or the plastic tab breaks. You then have to remove the cluster and there are two 7mm hex head screws that hold the gear selector in place to the cluster, Remove them and find out what happened. The other end of the cable fishes through the dash down to the column and clips on the column sleeve. You need to remove the vent bezel under the column to see it. I can do a video but won't be for some time. Hope this helps you in the mean time.
Classic G-Body Garage ok thanks I’ll try it out. Tag me if you ever make a video
I need the main plug you mentioned what’s the name of it
How do I unplug that middle piece. My gage is stuck on that one.
How about changing the cluster on a 1986 El Camino?
You need to change out the entire housing
@@ClassicGBodyGarage thanks. Your videos are very helpful!
Hey there, my brother has an 87 regal with the 307 olds, he has the sweep guage with the idiot lights. He wants to install an aftermarket oil psi and water temp gauge but then again wont those idiot lights be off all the time? is there a way to get rid of those specific idiot lights or will we have to deal with them being on the whole time.
My rally pack on a 85 Cutlass the only two gauges that work or tach and speedometer the other four remaining does not I need help have any ideas? I'm thinking ground that's what everybody tells me
Follow my video on how to repair Rally Gauges and you can fix them. ruclips.net/video/94T3HrFQdkA/видео.html
I have same clusteru have..but can i still use it if i did a ls swap 5.3
How similar is this for Monte Carlos? Have an 88 LS 4.3 I want to swap ss gauges into.
You need to swap out the ENTIRE housing as the sweep style housing is different than the gauge housing. Once you have that you follow most of the same process. The main plug pin layout is different so if you can find a gauge style plug you can the reconfigure yours
Which oil pressure elbow can i use for a 307 1984 Olds motor? I will retrofit the original rally pack gauges to my Delta88 Olds car. I had all the components, only the elbow is missing. I believe that the elbow use 1/8NPT Is that right? Greetings from Germany
45 degree angle with same thread pitch
will a cluster from a 86 el camino fit my 78 malibu or will I have to change the housing also?
if the 78 malibu has the gauge package and you are just swapping the gauges it will work, if the malibu has only the speedo then you mus swap the entire housing and dash harness.
+Classic G-Body Garage I'm swapping a 86 Monte rally cluster gauges with the original 78 Monte Carlo one that just has speedometer. what do I have to do? I see the connector needs to be rewired on the one in the video but am a little confused now
+trekitytrekyoself nevermind! rewatched and it makes total sense now. thank you!
So what if your doing the opposite I want to remove the rally cluster and switch it to the standard cluster
Can I do this same swap on my 1979 cutlass supreme brougham 5.7 350?
Yeah
I have an 1980 Monte with idiot lights would my swap differ from this swap
I have a rally pack with black face gauges but a white bezel plate...what vehicle is this from? Is it rare?
did you make the video for the malibu cluster swap
+Ced Smith No yet but that is coming.
Does anyone know any of the bulb numbers for the guages? Im working on replacing them with new brighter ones!!
194
Will this cluster fit/work in my 1984 3.8 Buick Regal? Also do you know any websites for G-body interior?
Hey do you have or know where I can get a tach harness for the rally cluster??
ebay
@@ClassicGBodyGarage thanks
Does anyone know where to get the standard plug ?
Hey man i need your help respond to my comment on your Rear end video, Wanna know how to take out rearend with brake lines still hooked up to drums, and how to disconnect parking brake cable from drums and how to hook them up
Undo the rubber hose brake line at the frame and you need to disassemble the drum brakes to remove the cable.
So who you get the cluster out..
how? it unscrews.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage Uhhh, like a video to show it please
I saw your other video too on your 78 Cutlass. I have a 79 Hurst Olds. To me it looks like the ralley pack gauges on a 78-88 Cutlass look identical - is that right? And if so, is the circuit board the same??? I do know if so, I cannot find a vendor ANYWHERE that sell these.
+ahafan64 They are all the same 78-88 but gauge faces are different from year to year give or take. All boards are the same. No one makes them that I know.
is this the same for malibu
can you give me the link for the configuration on the cluster wiring harness
+aaron shryack its in the video description but here it is. tech.oldsgmail.com/eint_rallye_swap.html
The only thing you ever show is a gutless cutless! How about the cluster in a 78 monte carlo. Those 2 are way different in every way. Looking to put a 1986 ss monte cluster in my 78 monte carlo
I show the Cutlass because I have the car to perform the work needed. I don't have a Monte or Malibu that needs a swap to create a video. Bring yours over and we can put a video together. On a Chevy, you need swap out the entire housing as the sweep speedo housing is different than the gauges style. If you can get the gauge plug off the monte harness then that will help otherwise you have to repin your plug. Swapping the engine sensors is the same on a your lightning fast 78 Monte and a Gutlass Cutlass.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage what state you in im in pa
Do you happen to know if the Cutlass non-ralley and the Malibu non-ralley clusters are the same dimensions? I'm looking at the Dakota Digital dashes for Cutlass and want to put one in my 78 Malibu with the non-ralley, since they look the best.
Thanks!
They are not the same at all.
Doesnt seem that bad at all . Just need to locate some non-dummy sensors Lol .
Rockauto would have them
hmmm just noticed my tac isnt running through the filter.. maybe that explanes my high rpms? while driving
carlos916 it could mean a few things. it will read incorrectly if the connector on the back has issues. Check out my cluster "fix" video
cool thanks!!
Classic G-Body Garage just a heads up.. ended up removing the cluster, soldered the small connector to the V8 tach and im all good!! thanks again!!
I noticed that your sweep gauge has your shift indicators (PRNDL) and the rally gauge doesn't. How did you remedy that? The rally gauges with shift indicators are rather hard to find, especially with the '87 and '88 Classic models with the Overdrive (PRNOD21). Thoughts?
Its just a rare option thats pretty much it. Cars were ordered with bench seat and gauges especially the 4 door cars into the 80s that offered Overdrive.
@@ClassicGBodyGarage No, what I meant was that you are replacing a sweep gauge WITH shift/gear indicators to a rally cluster WITHOUT shift/gear indicators. How do you know what gear you're in? And if you were to find a rally cluster with shift/gear indicators how would that change the installation process to align things properly?
You need to hunt down a cluster with the shift indicator or just the shift indicator itself. Ebay or the Classic Gbody Garage Facebook group
Can u put a link up for the plug configuration icant find anything
+Donald Allen its in the description of the video.
Can this be done on a buick regal g body?
with the proper gauges yes
Can I do this on my 80 Malibu?
Rob HVAC Similar for Malibu. I plan to make a video for the Malibu/Elco/Monte as well.
Classic G-Body Garage sounds great.
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How do you remove the speedometer cable from behind the cluster?
Clip on the back side. You need to unscrew the cable from the trans and the small bracket that holds it to the master cylinder. You need slack on the cable first. Remove the cluster and the cable slack comes with it, then push the tab on the back of the cluster.
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What does the little white part that the speedometer cable is held on? And where do I get one? I'm trying to hook up my cluster but cant get that wire in and cant reach from underneath the dash.
Did you find it mines is missing
@@FEDERALBOYSENTERTAINMENT I never found the white piece but finally was able to get the cable in. It took like 5 hours, you need someone with small hands
@@prezmoney where do you get the cable
It's called a speedometer cable they should have some online or autozone carries them too
@@prezmoney I have the speedometer cable I need the wires for the original cluster he shows in the video at 3:49
any site i can look up to make it work for my ls motor
Eduardo Santibanez join the Classic Gbody Garage Facebook page. A lot of knowledgeable people there.
Does this work for a Malibu also
You need to swap out the entire gauge housing for a Malibu/Monte and also repin the plug. Swapping the sensors and adding the tach harness is the same.
I am looking for a Rochester 4-Barrel mixture adjusting tool to adjust the dwell on a '84 Cutlass Calais. Can anyone help me? Bob Koniar
+Robert Koniar Try NAPA they still carry a lot of carb tools. I have bought my mixture adjustment tool there.
+Classic G-Body Garage I checked with NAPA. The, only, tools set they have is for carb adjusting on the bottom & sides. I need the tool to adjust the MMC - Mixture Control Solenoid located on top toward the engine.
diesel?
Do everybody know where i can get new Gauges mines are 34 years old 😔 lol 😆
why new ones? They usually don't go bad, just things go wrong. check out my other video on how to repair them.
will a cutlass dash fit in regal?
Shaun Micheal yes it will
Where can I find a wiring harness for 79 malibu?
The diagram? trying to replace with custom auto meter gauges.
+Rick Velez local library usually carries service books.
Will this swap work on a 84 Buick Regal?
Cutlass gauges will not swap into a Rega.
Classic G-Body Garage Ok, is it the wiring thats not compatible or...?? I ask because the bottom cluster is exactly like my Regal cluster.
Autometer has a direct fit replacement for the Monte Carlo
www.autometer.com/direct-fit-chevrolet-malibu-el-camino-monte-carlo-82-87-5-2-5-8-black.html
hey brother what if I have a ls swap
You can still use factory gauges.
Any site that I can get get it hooked
how much for a rally setup
moneymike785 $150
Who cares about the rally package? Its the last of the muscle projects available. I think the old gauges look more period correct! Add a drag racing tach if you want to make it a street machine!
Factory gauge cluster is best. Don't want a massive tach
Do you know the part number for those sensors
Can easily be found on RockAuto