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qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all. What does Xiaomi really offer ? For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops. So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB. At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the RUclips channels are ignoring the brand
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case. One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate. Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets) (Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone Samsung just can't complete with these brands
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
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As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though. Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days. But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger. I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying. Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also. My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc. It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe. You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process. Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem. So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe? And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere. And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top. As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit. At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient. And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly. I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Buy a phone with a with a real battery.. oppo Mag safe is 5,000 milliamps and charges at 80 Watts.. 15 watts LOL.. why does an apple put a real battery in the phone so you don't need magsafe??
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers). 1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery). 2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging? 3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters. --> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
Idk who's still using only 5w for a charger, but yes! Fast charging is indeed still bad for most batteries. MAYBE something on the horizon can put up better than what we have, be last I checked, manufacturers are resorting to either software tricks to TRY an alleviate this factual issue, of not using multiple batteries that are being "rotated." I'd imagine most of these people fixated on their phone go from 2% to 80% in a few minites are social media hores that refuse to unplug themselves, or foll who work on their devices. Definitely not technically inclined whatsoever.
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
The speed is a big factor. My five year old Huawei has 50w wireless charging plugs reverse charging, and certain Chinese cars come with high speed wireless charging pads as standard. Standardization is nice, but for those of us with Chinese droids, it's like regulators choosing to standardize to micro USB instead of USB-C.
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
At 3:00 , how can you say that the HMD charges "noticeably slower" than the iPhone, when your own chart showed that the HMD, while having lower power draw, actually charged to 100% faster than the iPhone. Edit: It's literally 16mins faster, or approx 10%. I don't know how you came to your conclusion, but it's objectively wrong, and provably false with your own data. That's misleading people by accident at best.
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
Had been using OnePlus series, right now the 12. It has 100W charging and it does it fast. Even the previous ones were 30 to 50W charging. For me to consider the Qi or other universal wireless charging, not proprietary, standard should be at least close to 50W.
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
I hope that the S25 series has it! I have an odd brand case with magenta for my S23 Ultra today and those magnets interfere with the S Pen so I’m hoping if they build it into the phone they will get that all resolved
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
i used magsafe maybe three times in three years lol forgot i had it until i watched this video. HMD is doing some cool things in the budget space, thank you for mentioning the skyline
I now have Pixel 6 Pro with Peak Design Mobile magnetic accessories and it is a godsent! So comvenient to just plop your phone whenever it fits. The only downside is the bulky case I have to wear on the phone at all times. I skipped Pixel 9 for the reason it doesn't have Qi2.
Some xiaomi phones even have 90W charging. But it's not as good as it sounds, it's not that much faster than like a 33W charging for some reason. Still, 33W is still much higher than 25W.
Magsafe is the only feature that I think makes iphones interesting. I just got a magsafe case for my pixel pro xl so I can use some of my partners iphone stands
Because tech companies are super greedy and not innovative recently. They give us pretty much no substantial upgrades year to year. In fact, they take away some very nice features like the 3.5mm jack and the Micro SD expansion slot.
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
Honestly, wireless charging is the most inefficient form of charging. Essentially you are going from AC-DC-"AC-like"-DC before you can even charge your phone. And as someone who lives in an area with high crime rates, an accessory loosely secured to the back of my device via magnets is the last thing I would want.
I am not intereted in wireless charging But the circle magnet form is actually very fancy to make some exclusive add for phone I got a magnet on usb dac so I dont need rubber band to bind them together
Realme gt 7 has magnetic charging. But in my opinion, since it doesn’t work with a case - slapping on a magsafe case mimics qi2 flawlessly. My xiaomi 14 has a low budget “magsafe” case and works with anger maggo powerbank
Water proofing without a port is much easier. There are many more habits you could change to make a bigger difference than not using wireless charging. Pull over and calm down if you are ever driving angry, you'll save more energy in a day, than you waste wireless charging for a year.
@@MegaLokopo There is always something making a bigger difference, so that you can justify doing nothing at all. Phones are waterproof enough. I never had any issue with water damage, nor do I know anyone who ever had issues with that either. Sure, if you actually have specialized applications where a phone, a camera or whatever needs to be perfectly water tight, for diving purposes etc. wireless charging is an option. Then this inefficient technology has a rational justification. If you want to replace a simple cable with a bulky charge eating up desk space all the time, you don't. PS: I don't drive. I take public transportation.
@@sagichnicht6748 It isn't about justifying doing nothing, it is about making the biggest difference you can with the limited time you have available throughout your life. I also take public transportation, I have never owned a car. I just assume everyone else does because almost everyone else in the US does drive. I have never had a phone water damaged, but I live nearly as far away from water as I can. Other people live near or on water, and why shouldn't companies make the best phones they can? Water damage is a common failure of phones as well as dropping, and the space taken up by the port, could be better used to make phone more drop resistant as well. With or without a wireless charger, I would have my phone on a angled vertical stand just by my preference so it doesn't take up any more space on my desk if my phone charges or not, it is on the same stand either way, and it takes up less space than my phone lying flat.
All my phones have 15 Watt wireless charging capability - they are a Pixel and an xPeria 1, plus a Chinese one, a TCL. I also have a couple of 15 W charging pads. But I don't use wireless charging usually; the phone gets too hot, and the high temperature is kryptonite for the phone battery. In few occasions in some specific places, like into an airport or while riding some friends' new car, I utilised the wireless charging pads available in loco...
I know S-pen doesn't work right near magnets. Don't know why others aren't integrating it. But it is a good tech for chargers, stands, car phone holders. I have always used Pitaka cases since before Apple made MagSafe on iPhones.
Unfortunately, car manufacturers have been extremely slow to adopt magnetic attachment in built-in car wireless chargers, even though it’s a perfect use case in a moving vehicle. Anyway, I don’t know of a single car that has it. That said, the car makers don’t actually make those chargers themselves, they source them from contracted automotive components manufacturers and then integrate them into the vehicle and the component makers only recently started making Qi2 kits so hopefully maybe starting in the 2026 model year we’ll begin to see some vehicles with this feature finally included.
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
I didn't care about wireless charging at all. However the magnetic aspect i can't live without now. I added a esr ring to my P9P Fold and i refuse to take it off. Even if it shuts off my screen after attaching something
If it needs to be magnetically aligned I wonder why Apple didn't push magsafe to be standard for their products. It could help them to make charging faster without needing USB-C at all, most of iPhone users are using Air Drop anyway for data.
I think that most people don't really care about fast wireless charging standards because it's really quite useless. It's slower, you basically can't use your phone while charging it, and if yes (with those little pucks that hold onto the back of the phone), there is still a cable coming out of it.
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
Lightning was never offered as a standard genius. 🤦😑 Nobody but Apple was allowed to use it, which was literally the whole point. And inside it was just dogs][!t USB 2. USB-C is more fragile because it has more pins that let it do things like USB3-4, DisplayPort video over USB, etc... It's easy to make an insanely tiny, durable port when literally all it needs to deal with is power and circa 2003 data transfer speeds.
Waiting on samsung to adopt Qi2. I like minimizing wires where I comfortably can, obvs I still use wired charging on the nightstand. But on the go, really like just having a slim anker wireless charger and phone.
My S23 Ultra at night charged fully on my nightstand with a Qi charger from 12 years ago. Before that Note 4, S7 Edge and S10+ were treated the same by me. What is the reason you use a cable at the nightstand? I have cables only for charging tablets, watches, power banks and if I need a full charge fast on the phone. Correction: My Note 4 had no Qi, used the charger with a Nexus 4 till I upgraded to the Note 4.
@@MaxPower-11 Then still the functionality named Standby on iOS is missing from OneUI. Any apps that would provide that functionality? As I moved to a Mac the Android device wasn’t fit for my use anymore anyway and using an iPad showed me that I like iOS and iPadOS more. For me this problem is solved by a hardware switch. Even my earbuds have magnets which is nice.
@@MaxPower-11 I use it as alarm clock that also displays current weather. It can also be used to show photos. When it is dark the display turns off and only turns on when there is movement nearby in front of the phone. In darkness the display - when it is on - is a dark red to be friendly to the eyes. So I can easily read the time without having to grab the phone, tap the display or do something besides moving in my cosy bed.
I'm a big fan of Qi2 and wish more Android ecosystem devices were on board. I have a "Qi2 case" (dbrand Ghost 2.0) for my S22 Ultra, and I quite like using MagSafe accessories. I use a MagSafe charger/mount for my car. Funnily enough, I have the Anker device shown at 2:26 - With the kickstand, this is great for watching streams in the background at work. I also use it for my AirPods Pro 2s, and the magnetic centering with the AirPods is excellent.
This is an awesome analysis. Especially the influence that Apple has over the wireless consortium by dedicating more employees (rare), stay ahead and standardize, then donate it to make other solutions irrelevant is something I did not think about. I thought they did that to expand the accessory and compatibility market so that it would make it better for iPhone users (it might be one reason but I thought it was the ONLY reason).
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My Pixel 7A is compatible with magsafe.
qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all.
What does Xiaomi really offer ?
For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops.
So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB.
At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the RUclips channels are ignoring the brand
I don't care about the wireless charging speed. Using the magnets for a dock, car mount or wallet is what people seem to value more.
You can get the Magnetic Case
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Yes
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
Yeah i use it to watch stocks at work @sodapone
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My brother has a card between the case, which basically blocks MagSafe.
That's just so sad.
@@oevers it might block wireless charging but the metal ring on a case still work with magnets.
Andoird gay boys can't stop talking about apple. What losers.
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case.
One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate.
Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets)
(Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
I am using a MagSafe case for my Ultra and it doesn't disturb the pen. So there is definitely a possibility to implement that together with a pen.
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
@@Asgar06 Me too, it's never been a problem.
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
Or like them saying they’d never removed the headphone jack
Or the charger,
I have three cameras on my phone. I use one.
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
What an american part (as an american)has to do with it? Finnaly discovered that Huawei doesnt have backdoors,but your expensive iFruit has them? 😂😂😂😂
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
@@trolslovenski American phones have at best 25-33W "fast" charging.
@@israellewis5484 American phones don't exist.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me
It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple
Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone
Samsung just can't complete with these brands
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
That is the view of most people I know.
I always forget about reverse wireless, I've gone whole days without earbuds and then remembered on my commute back when it's too late to matter 😂
@@user-qy2wf2lt6v sadly
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
To add on to this, it never really seemed wireless, like Bluetooth or WiFi. You still have to keep your device in one place.
Well, it is a safer alternative in public charging spaces since you don't have to plug in a random wire and risk your phone getting breached
@@Muhsin-ox1vj I think the technical term is juice jacking.
Bro, how can you tell if it's good or bad if you've never tried it before?
*guy in a donut store*
"Jeez, what are they doing with all these silly flavors? Éclairs are so much better! I don't know why they had to go so far inventing all of this crazy stuff, who cares about that? And it's got a hole in the middle, how inefficient!!"
It's just, like, not for you, man.
As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do
really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
@@divitkarekar5803 Oneplus is awesome. I love charging my phone wirelessly faster than most people charge with a cable.
I actually recently tried putting my Nexus 5 on my new Qi2 stand and found it hilarious that it stuck!
@@divitkarekar5803well they're not the ones improving the chips, Qualcomm does it for them
Rule of thumb: Apple never invented anything.
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
if there is magnet for alignment why do we need wireless? can be done with just pogo pins? no power loss and even can build for mods accessories.
great thinking!
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
some sort of pins, sure. pogo pins are notoriously unreliable long term.
Like those ipad connector for keyboard
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
What is this, second video of the week?
Daaaaamn, you’re on fire
I like the part where he does a insta 360 sponsorship segment but doesnt speed in a school zone
insta 360 sponsoring every tech youtuber left right and center
theyre burning through vc monies, it has to go somewhere
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though.
Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days.
But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger.
I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying.
Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also.
My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc.
It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe.
You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
Exactly! I have MagSafe chargers on my deck and in my car. I rarely go out of my way to charge my phone because it’s always being passively charged
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
The main benefit for me is when the main port isn’t working, either from being worn out or because there’s water in there.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
What phone are you using? Samsung, google, apple? Well, thats all you americans have 💀
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
Proprietary?????
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process.
Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem.
So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
Can you give examples of phones that are available outside china please
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@drajitshekherMost Xiaomi flagships that come out of China have 50w wireless charging though... Mi 14 had 50w and Mi 14 ultra had 80w.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe?
And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere.
And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top.
As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit.
At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient.
And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
…nope that ain’t it
I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly.
I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Buy a phone with a with a real battery.. oppo Mag safe is 5,000 milliamps and charges at 80 Watts.. 15 watts LOL.. why does an apple put a real battery in the phone so you don't need magsafe??
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
Two uploads back to back just 3 days apart?
Awesome!
Finally a Video on that Topic! 🎉
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
To abort ports. Why need a charging port which can break over time?
@@ThePianist51 Why break your battery faster while your charging port could last the whole life of the phone theoretically and is replaceable?
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
Nobody is forcing it on you, it’s called having options.
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port
my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
Isnt qi 2.1 also suppoost to officially support smartwatches ie the curved underside.
Thoughts on the HMD Skyline as a phone?
Its price is trash for its specifications, don't buy it.
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers).
1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery).
2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging?
3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters.
--> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
Idk who's still using only 5w for a charger, but yes! Fast charging is indeed still bad for most batteries.
MAYBE something on the horizon can put up better than what we have, be last I checked, manufacturers are resorting to either software tricks to TRY an alleviate this factual issue, of not using multiple batteries that are being "rotated."
I'd imagine most of these people fixated on their phone go from 2% to 80% in a few minites are social media hores that refuse to unplug themselves, or foll who work on their devices.
Definitely not technically inclined whatsoever.
i really want the magnets
Wait, so is the new Apple Magsafe charger already Qi 2.1?
iPhones have good Magsafe, but still they can't be able to wireless power share (reverse wireless charging).
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
Consider battery life preservation algorithms might be interfering with the maximum charging speeds. Was the battery optimization setting off?
The speed is a big factor. My five year old Huawei has 50w wireless charging plugs reverse charging, and certain Chinese cars come with high speed wireless charging pads as standard.
Standardization is nice, but for those of us with Chinese droids, it's like regulators choosing to standardize to micro USB instead of USB-C.
"there are no tangible benefits to switching to Qi2" has nobody on Google's design team ever used a magnetic car mount?
love my magsafe case on my Pixel.... except when i set it down on my workbench and it picks up all the metal filings, rusty bits, etc
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
I think new pixel phone (at least some of them) have the new ultrasonic fingerprint reader
The skyline screen having curves but the phones not is super weird
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
@@TechAltar Even charging at
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
this was very insightful. I've been wondering about the absence of magnetic wireless charging in android for a while now.
i got 60w on my gan... i connect the phone by the time my ocd asks me to pick it up again it charged 50% of the battery
I would like it in my phone but only for mounting it somewhere.
Like near the pc, car, bed.
I don't know if I would use it for charging
At 3:00 , how can you say that the HMD charges "noticeably slower" than the iPhone, when your own chart showed that the HMD, while having lower power draw, actually charged to 100% faster than the iPhone.
Edit: It's literally 16mins faster, or approx 10%. I don't know how you came to your conclusion, but it's objectively wrong, and provably false with your own data.
That's misleading people by accident at best.
I have an Infinix Note 40 Pro. It has Qi2 wireless charge, with the base included in the box. Not a common feature.
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
@@TechAltar Interesting, yep, very similar and apparently compatible with iPhones and Qi2 phones.
Had been using OnePlus series, right now the 12. It has 100W charging and it does it fast. Even the previous ones were 30 to 50W charging. For me to consider the Qi or other universal wireless charging, not proprietary, standard should be at least close to 50W.
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
I hope that the S25 series has it! I have an odd brand case with magenta for my S23 Ultra today and those magnets interfere with the S Pen so I’m hoping if they build it into the phone they will get that all resolved
I rarely use wireless charging,but i relly love using other magsafe gadgets like cardholder and stand❤
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
Yeah, we have the comfort of not having our phone battery being fried up
If "fiddling around with a cable" is anything remotely approaching an issue for you, I'm sorry but you need to have your mental faculties examined
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
@@hellishsavitar7522 That doesn't happen with well made wireless chargers.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
My UAG case aligns the magsafe magnets with my S24 ultra perfectly. I can use all magsafe charging docs or car holders.
The panorama shots you made are excellent. Highly recommend that place you took them at to get an amazing view of Berlin.
41C not alarming?
i used magsafe maybe three times in three years lol forgot i had it until i watched this video. HMD is doing some cool things in the budget space, thank you for mentioning the skyline
I now have Pixel 6 Pro with Peak Design Mobile magnetic accessories and it is a godsent! So comvenient to just plop your phone whenever it fits. The only downside is the bulky case I have to wear on the phone at all times.
I skipped Pixel 9 for the reason it doesn't have Qi2.
Some xiaomi phones even have 90W charging. But it's not as good as it sounds, it's not that much faster than like a 33W charging for some reason. Still, 33W is still much higher than 25W.
Apple is playing 4D chess
I have an infinix phone with magsafe wireless charging. It charges with 20w wireless
As someone who likes tech and has usually been aware of developments with phones, I've never heard of Qi2.
Magsafe is the only feature that I think makes iphones interesting. I just got a magsafe case for my pixel pro xl so I can use some of my partners iphone stands
Because tech companies are super greedy and not innovative recently. They give us pretty much no substantial upgrades year to year. In fact, they take away some very nice features like the 3.5mm jack and the Micro SD expansion slot.
When I bought my pixel a couple years ago, when I did I bought a MagSafe pixel case! MagSafe is awesome!
It looks like Apple did the same thing with Magsafe that Google did for RCS
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
Hey @TechAltar I am curious why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones, what is going on .. why ignore a brand.
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
Honestly, wireless charging is the most inefficient form of charging. Essentially you are going from AC-DC-"AC-like"-DC before you can even charge your phone. And as someone who lives in an area with high crime rates, an accessory loosely secured to the back of my device via magnets is the last thing I would want.
@techaltar your neon logo isn't hangig leveled 😮
I am not intereted in wireless charging
But the circle magnet form is actually very fancy to make some exclusive add for phone
I got a magnet on usb dac so I dont need rubber band to bind them together
Realme gt 7 has magnetic charging. But in my opinion, since it doesn’t work with a case - slapping on a magsafe case mimics qi2 flawlessly. My xiaomi 14 has a low budget “magsafe” case and works with anger maggo powerbank
Wasting 20% or more of electricity just so one can evade plugging in a plug? Sorry, I can't see the benefit, iPhone or not.
Is a backup option to charge your phone if your port stops working. It helps phones to last longer without you having to take it to a shop.
@@kinglegoiii I have never had a port fail on me.
Water proofing without a port is much easier. There are many more habits you could change to make a bigger difference than not using wireless charging. Pull over and calm down if you are ever driving angry, you'll save more energy in a day, than you waste wireless charging for a year.
@@MegaLokopo There is always something making a bigger difference, so that you can justify doing nothing at all. Phones are waterproof enough. I never had any issue with water damage, nor do I know anyone who ever had issues with that either.
Sure, if you actually have specialized applications where a phone, a camera or whatever needs to be perfectly water tight, for diving purposes etc. wireless charging is an option. Then this inefficient technology has a rational justification. If you want to replace a simple cable with a bulky charge eating up desk space all the time, you don't.
PS: I don't drive. I take public transportation.
@@sagichnicht6748 It isn't about justifying doing nothing, it is about making the biggest difference you can with the limited time you have available throughout your life.
I also take public transportation, I have never owned a car. I just assume everyone else does because almost everyone else in the US does drive.
I have never had a phone water damaged, but I live nearly as far away from water as I can. Other people live near or on water, and why shouldn't companies make the best phones they can? Water damage is a common failure of phones as well as dropping, and the space taken up by the port, could be better used to make phone more drop resistant as well.
With or without a wireless charger, I would have my phone on a angled vertical stand just by my preference so it doesn't take up any more space on my desk if my phone charges or not, it is on the same stand either way, and it takes up less space than my phone lying flat.
All my phones have 15 Watt wireless charging capability - they are a Pixel and an xPeria 1, plus a Chinese one, a TCL.
I also have a couple of 15 W charging pads.
But I don't use wireless charging usually; the phone gets too hot, and the high temperature is kryptonite for the phone battery.
In few occasions in some specific places, like into an airport or while riding some friends' new car, I utilised the wireless charging pads available in loco...
I know S-pen doesn't work right near magnets. Don't know why others aren't integrating it. But it is a good tech for chargers, stands, car phone holders. I have always used Pitaka cases since before Apple made MagSafe on iPhones.
I have a magsafe case on my pixel 8 pro. But never use it for charging. I use it for the accessories, wallet, car, tripod attachments.
I have magnetic charging deck on my desk for when I'm going to sleep. Great to wake up to a fully charged phone without having to plug it in
I don't care too much about wireless charging, but I would love magnets on the back of my phone for accessories like phone stands, popsockets, etc.
When Apple 'donates' something, you need to be ready to pay them more 🤣
What standard is on cars? I think that's where magnets would benefit the most to avoid sliding.
Unfortunately, car manufacturers have been extremely slow to adopt magnetic attachment in built-in car wireless chargers, even though it’s a perfect use case in a moving vehicle. Anyway, I don’t know of a single car that has it. That said, the car makers don’t actually make those chargers themselves, they source them from contracted automotive components manufacturers and then integrate them into the vehicle and the component makers only recently started making Qi2 kits so hopefully maybe starting in the 2026 model year we’ll begin to see some vehicles with this feature finally included.
@MaxPower-11 wow, thanks mate that's insightful.
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
I didn't care about wireless charging at all. However the magnetic aspect i can't live without now. I added a esr ring to my P9P Fold and i refuse to take it off. Even if it shuts off my screen after attaching something
If it needs to be magnetically aligned I wonder why Apple didn't push magsafe to be standard for their products.
It could help them to make charging faster without needing USB-C at all, most of iPhone users are using Air Drop anyway for data.
I think that most people don't really care about fast wireless charging standards because it's really quite useless. It's slower, you basically can't use your phone while charging it, and if yes (with those little pucks that hold onto the back of the phone), there is still a cable coming out of it.
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
Lightning was never offered as a standard genius. 🤦😑 Nobody but Apple was allowed to use it, which was literally the whole point. And inside it was just dogs][!t USB 2. USB-C is more fragile because it has more pins that let it do things like USB3-4, DisplayPort video over USB, etc... It's easy to make an insanely tiny, durable port when literally all it needs to deal with is power and circa 2003 data transfer speeds.
106 is not bad considering fast charging my iPhone 15 pro max will reach 111°f in a 80° room. (Used imazing to see the temps)
Waiting on samsung to adopt Qi2. I like minimizing wires where I comfortably can, obvs I still use wired charging on the nightstand. But on the go, really like just having a slim anker wireless charger and phone.
My S23 Ultra at night charged fully on my nightstand with a Qi charger from 12 years ago. Before that Note 4, S7 Edge and S10+ were treated the same by me.
What is the reason you use a cable at the nightstand? I have cables only for charging tablets, watches, power banks and if I need a full charge fast on the phone.
Correction: My Note 4 had no Qi, used the charger with a Nexus 4 till I upgraded to the Note 4.
Assuming you put a case on your device then you don’t need to wait for Samsung. Just buy a “MagSafe-compatible” case for your device.
@@MaxPower-11 Then still the functionality named Standby on iOS is missing from OneUI. Any apps that would provide that functionality?
As I moved to a Mac the Android device wasn’t fit for my use anymore anyway and using an iPad showed me that I like iOS and iPadOS more. For me this problem is solved by a hardware switch. Even my earbuds have magnets which is nice.
@@Netzwerkdose what does "standby" on iOS do?
@@MaxPower-11 I use it as alarm clock that also displays current weather. It can also be used to show photos.
When it is dark the display turns off and only turns on when there is movement nearby in front of the phone. In darkness the display - when it is on - is a dark red to be friendly to the eyes.
So I can easily read the time without having to grab the phone, tap the display or do something besides moving in my cosy bed.
I'm a big fan of Qi2 and wish more Android ecosystem devices were on board. I have a "Qi2 case" (dbrand Ghost 2.0) for my S22 Ultra, and I quite like using MagSafe accessories. I use a MagSafe charger/mount for my car. Funnily enough, I have the Anker device shown at 2:26 - With the kickstand, this is great for watching streams in the background at work. I also use it for my AirPods Pro 2s, and the magnetic centering with the AirPods is excellent.
Using magnetic cable is more convenient than using wireless charging
and it is better for your battery too.
This is an awesome analysis. Especially the influence that Apple has over the wireless consortium by dedicating more employees (rare), stay ahead and standardize, then donate it to make other solutions irrelevant is something I did not think about. I thought they did that to expand the accessory and compatibility market so that it would make it better for iPhone users (it might be one reason but I thought it was the ONLY reason).
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QI 2 is already obsolete. Chinese phones can do 50w wireless charging with their proprietary standards.
The magnet is the part I like.
Actually the Nubia Z40 Pro has magnet array built in and that makes two Android phones with the capability.