@@georgemonk5394 Not only is the Umpire blind, she is death and can't hear. All she had to do is ask the lines person. But she never did not. Total incompetence!!!
3 things : - If she's sure she saw the ball in, she's bad, because it's obvious it's out - if she is not sure if it was in or out, she's also bad - refusing to ask clarification to the line empire and refusing to call superisor is so stupid because it shows she was not 100% sure of her decision it feels like she doesn't know but does not want to admit she does not know, so she invents " I saw it in " and prefers not to call the supervisor hoping the problem would go away too bad the supervisor is almost always useless, the line juge should have been called to clarify. it's unfair but most of all, not right to not allow him his right to call the supervisor. She did EVERY THING wrong
First, it's hard to see the ball on the far side line from where she is. Second, the umpire can't change a decision. This are the rules of tennis, she must stick to it even if she realized it was her mistake.
@@AM-xy6xk wrong, the call was out and the the empire said it was in.... The empire has and generally CAN overule a line umpire decision, it's been done a million times in the history of tennis, at almost every match. as you say, the chair umpire is far from the lines, therefore, the line umpires are here to help and make the calls but if a line umpire is wrong and if the chair umpire is certain the line umpire is wrong, he or she can overrule it. the problem here is that the chair umpire did not ear the call and considered the ball was in without even being sure of it... she just assumed it was in because she did not ear anything... but if the line umpire comes and tell the chair umpire, "I'm sure it was out, I called it"... she should listen to this instead of pretending she knew what she saw... you can see from the grandstand that the ball is out
The chair umpire should not be overruling the call unless she is CERTAIN that it was in, which is hard to do when the ball hits the far sideline. She was in the wrong here.
Bad sportsmanship from the opponent, he 100% saw the ball going out. Whenever you play a ball down the line on amateur level you often tell the opponent whether the ball was in or out. And that ball was faaar out. Umpire should should be banned for atleast 2 years for this.
For those wondering who won. Basilashvili lost his serve to 30 in that game, and after that each player hold their serve and Moriya won 3-6 in the final set. Poor judgment from the chair-umpire, and supervisor, just like always, didn't do anything in the player's interest.
They played twice this year. Once in Seoul and Basilashvili won 6-3 6-4 and won the final against Daniel, as you mentioned. And this specific mistake happened in another Challenger event in Kobe where the final score was 6-3 5-7 3-6
It seems to me that this umpire failed at her most basic duty. Before calling the score, she needs to first hear and see what the linesperson says and then make a decision on whether to overrule.
The big issue is not whether ball was in or not; all umpires make mistakes. But if line umpire called it then that would have hindered the player and needs to be replayed.
Have to say, supervisor did a great job of difusing the situation - he calmly explained that basically she messed up but without making her feel uncomfortable. For those that don't know, supervisors can only overrule umpires if they get the rules wrong. They cannot overrule judgement calls (which is what this was).
The ball is way out. Why umpires in tennis are so stupid not to admit a mistake? Players should start quitting the game after these idiotic calls and lack of empathy.
Outrageous decision. I still dont understand the useless need of a supervisor, they always go with the umpire decisions anyway. Doesnt even matter if the ball is in or out. From the moment the line judge called it out and the umpire did not correct it, thats Basilashvili point, End of the story. It doesnt matter iif she THINKS its in. She diidnt have the NEED to correct it and thats the point here. She cant prove that if she heard the out call, she was going to correct it..
The linesman called it with his hand (apparently) and she didn't see it. Okay, she didn't hear it (because of the massive crowd there, I get it) but what's wrong her eyes? Obviously something, because she says she saw the ball land in, because clearly it did not. And then, she doesn't correct the call, then doesn't call the supervisor.... what a joke.
The supervisor can be called in a question of rule, not a question of judgement. The question of whether the ball was in or out is a question of judgement and because the supervisor is not present the responsible official is the umpire. A question of rule would be the question of whether Basilashvili expressed his opinion in an acceptable manner or not. In this case the supervisor can be called on court and after hearing the umpire's and the player's reports he may conclude on whether the player needs to be penalized for his behaviour or not and how much.
The umpire was wrong in calling the ball in, but she was correct in not asking the line judge or calling the supervisor initially, because it's a "Judgement Call". When there's no other physical evidence like hawk eye, the umpire has to make the call based on her judgement. So regardless the line judge called the ball in or out, if the umpire believes the ball was in, she has to call the ball in, and it's the final decision. It's bad, but that's the meaning of "Judgement Call", that's why there's no point for her to ask the line judge what's the initial call, because that won't change the decision. Also, supervisors don't oversee calls, but whether there has been any wrong-doing in the match. In other words, supervisors don't make calls, but only check whether the umpire is breaking the rules. So if Nikoloz was asking for the supervisor just to complain about the call itself, then the umpire can refuse it. Because it was a judgement call, the supervisor can't do anything about it. But if Nikoloz was asking for the supervisor because he believes the umpire is discriminating against him, then the umpire would allow it. Because discriminating against a player is against the rules, and the supervisor can take action against it. That's why the umpire asked Nikoloz what's the reason for the supervisor, and refused to call the supervisor initially. Because if he only wanted to complain about the call, then the umpire can't call the supervisor for it.
@@cliffchang32 Your the reason why umpires are totally in the wrong. Let me guess your a Democrat that loss the election, liberalist, far left, woke, and everything else. Your a joke. The fact was the umpire was grossly in the wrong!!
No accountability. Supervisor never over rules the umpire decision even when the umpire was in the wrong. Bad umpire, bad opponent, bad supervisor. No accountability!!!
It was a late call anyways and Nikoloz's already stopped playing, so it's not his point unfortunately. If he just chipped the ball and went in then it's a replay. But the umpire's argumentation is a complete bs
1:27 15-0 2:48 30-0 Were I Basilashvili, I would rather ,,call the'' line umpire to confirm he called the ball. And then call the supervisor if that doesn't help.
All of this while very funny -that is if we decide to ignore the preversion of the tennis tradition- is really illegal to do. A player does not get unlimited time to express his opinion (time violation) and he does not get to do it in that manner, calling the umpire "idiot" and "are you really not that smart person" (unsportsmanlike conduct). He also refused to communicate dialectically, only repeated his claims and straight up said "I don't care" and "I dont want to hear your explanation". Was the ball way out? But of course. Did she have to ensure continuous play? The current tennis cult tends to ignore that. But to ignore that isn't it precisely to do another mistake? But the player is angry we should let them express that. Since when do 2 wrongs make a right, since when is anger not a negative human behaviour and since when is it healthy to ignore the rules? On another note, thanks for a yet another informative video and the impressive "call the supervisor count".
When has there been a instance where the supervisor is on the players side as opposed to the umpire. They are completely useless. Just get rid of them, and use the money to install hawk-eye or video technology.
ball looked out, no one called anything and the ump didn’t overrule, so basil got upset because of it and also her not complying with him in calling the supervisor
She got caught with her pants down, probably day dreaming and not paying attention, then tried to BS her way out of it! SO STUPID! "I dont know why to call the supervisor" - oh please he only said 30+ times!?!? ...quit your tennis judging job and go back to what you're qualified to do, like cleaning road side toilets.
The quality of umpiring and line calls have been so pathetically bad for past few years thats this episode is not surprising. Remember the Japanese player who was wrongfully disqualified at Roland garros last year.
The supervisor is flat wrong. The umpire should always look.....LOOK....at the line judge after each point. She did not do that and was embarrassed that she got caught napping. Basilashvili is 1000% right.
she should be fined and reviewed for this stubbornness. so bad of her to try flexing her "power" but refusing to let him talk to supervisor about the situation edit: wow and the supervisor ended up being completely incompetent as well 😮 bad luck for nikoloz
Most sad and unfair situation. And everybody saw the ball out. The other player could have help but as a little selfish personn didn't say anything. The referee could have hear AND see the call and sha was supposed to ! She was unfair and unempathetic Basilashvilly was calm all the time while others would have break the chair. Tennis needs union for better work condition and to temper with all those wierd referee.
If you feel the need to add information like this to an only sports related post then please add the full info. He won every court and was cleared of all charges since there was no evidence.
@@carlolinde4210 Yes, it's a sports-related post about an athlete who was arrested for assaulting his wife in front of their child. While he was cleared in court, his ex-wife still stands by her claim of domestic violence.
A few years ago Basilashvilli beat Zverev in a close match and I lost a bet on draftkings. Zverev was a mentally weak midget in that match and he cost me a few hundred dollars. Although Basilashvilli got screwed here, I don’t feel too bad cause he cost me some dough.
She is totally unsuitable as an umpire. This ball was way out. And the opponent? Not a sportsman for sure. Shame on him.
Totally agree. Moriya could have (should have) cleared this up in seconds. Also agree that she is an incompetent umpire. Clearly out.
That’s not his job to clear it, if he wants he can do this, that’s a referee’s fault
Moriya will have had many calls like this go against him in the past, you can't blame him for not getting involved and staying put
Try to see the far side line from where she is. Most close calls on far side line are subjective judgments if there is no line umpire.
The "call the supervisor" count was hilarious 😂
This is one of those cases where you can't blame a player for losing it.
This is what I hate about tennis umpires. They are blind and never wrong. That ball was so out. Umpire is so blind.
It's almost impossible to see the ball from the chair in this spot. I tell you because I know.
So why should chair umpires be up there?@@AM-xy6xk
Basilashvili is right. Ball was clearly out she thought line empire did not say out that's why she called it in
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@@georgemonk5394 Not only is the Umpire blind, she is death and can't hear. All she had to do is ask the lines person. But she never did not. Total incompetence!!!
@@jkim4911 There was nothing to hear. Line judge didn't say a word.
calmest guy i would've gone nuts
Lol you dont know Nikoloz then
@@senders779I'm sure they were referring to this situation and not anything else
The opponent knows he hit the ball out and never says a word. The opponent is bad sportsmanship. He is worse than the blind umpire !!!
3 things :
- If she's sure she saw the ball in, she's bad, because it's obvious it's out
- if she is not sure if it was in or out, she's also bad
- refusing to ask clarification to the line empire and refusing to call superisor is so stupid because it shows she was not 100% sure of her decision
it feels like she doesn't know but does not want to admit she does not know, so she invents " I saw it in " and prefers not to call the supervisor hoping the problem would go away
too bad the supervisor is almost always useless, the line juge should have been called to clarify. it's unfair but most of all, not right to not allow him his right to call the supervisor.
She did EVERY THING wrong
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@@finnishinsider1569 thanks for correcting every umpire mistake in this comment section 😄
First, it's hard to see the ball on the far side line from where she is. Second, the umpire can't change a decision. This are the rules of tennis, she must stick to it even if she realized it was her mistake.
@@AM-xy6xk wrong, the call was out and the the empire said it was in....
The empire has and generally CAN overule a line umpire decision, it's been done a million times in the history of tennis, at almost every match. as you say, the chair umpire is far from the lines, therefore, the line umpires are here to help and make the calls but if a line umpire is wrong and if the chair umpire is certain the line umpire is wrong, he or she can overrule it. the problem here is that the chair umpire did not ear the call and considered the ball was in without even being sure of it... she just assumed it was in because she did not ear anything... but if the line umpire comes and tell the chair umpire, "I'm sure it was out, I called it"... she should listen to this instead of pretending she knew what she saw... you can see from the grandstand that the ball is out
The chair umpire should not be overruling the call unless she is CERTAIN that it was in, which is hard to do when the ball hits the far sideline. She was in the wrong here.
The line judge haven't call the ball out. So she had to decide and if she saw the ball out it's her decision.
Bad sportsmanship from the opponent, he 100% saw the ball going out. Whenever you play a ball down the line on amateur level you often tell the opponent whether the ball was in or out. And that ball was faaar out. Umpire should should be banned for atleast 2 years for this.
on amateur level, ball runs way slower
@LuciaBelladotti doesnt matter how fast the ball is going in this scenario. You can still easily see if its wide or in
there was an easy solution available...if she had just called the supervisor all of this could've been avoided
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Not like the supervisor would have changed the call, because they never do.
The opponent knew his ball is out when it left his racket.
He was robbed for sure
She was like a child and the ball was clearly out.
she should be fired !
Line umpire should call loudly
Shame on his opponent. You always know when you've hit a ball out. That's bad sportsmanship.
The supervisor can interrogate the linesman to verify if he called the ball out. Or she could have simply asked the linesman herself.
wow, she corrected a call that she didn't even hear
I think he wants her to call a supervisor
I lost it 😂 when he asked 'Are you an idiot?' That might be the most honest wtf am I dealing with right now. That umpire is an absolute joke.
this ball was at least 10 cm wide. How could she see that in? Impossible! Awful call!
CALL THE SUPERVISOR
Just ask the linesperson once whether he called it out or not and the matter is sorted
Moriya is not right. He obviously seen how big out that was, and should give that point away.
Ball out...and not even by a little. So what did this arrogant and presumptuous umpire see???
Your titles are never disappoint haha
For those wondering who won. Basilashvili lost his serve to 30 in that game, and after that each player hold their serve and Moriya won 3-6 in the final set. Poor judgment from the chair-umpire, and supervisor, just like always, didn't do anything in the player's interest.
Supervisor cannot overrule judgement calls.
I think you are mistaken here, Basilashvili won the set, the match and eventually won the final against Taro Daniel.
They played twice this year. Once in Seoul and Basilashvili won 6-3 6-4 and won the final against Daniel, as you mentioned. And this specific mistake happened in another Challenger event in Kobe where the final score was 6-3 5-7 3-6
@@sabotageCSGO aha, my bad. Sorry🙃
It seems to me that this umpire failed at her most basic duty. Before calling the score, she needs to first hear and see what the linesperson says and then make a decision on whether to overrule.
The big issue is not whether ball was in or not; all umpires make mistakes. But if line umpire called it then that would have hindered the player and needs to be replayed.
Why doesn't the umpire just ask the lines person if he/she called it out?
common sense wasn’t there that day
because she saw the ball in. If she would aks him, that would make her bad empire i guess. She is bad anyway.
Have to say, supervisor did a great job of difusing the situation - he calmly explained that basically she messed up but without making her feel uncomfortable. For those that don't know, supervisors can only overrule umpires if they get the rules wrong. They cannot overrule judgement calls (which is what this was).
The ball is way out. Why umpires in tennis are so stupid not to admit a mistake? Players should start quitting the game after these idiotic calls and lack of empathy.
Outrageous decision. I still dont understand the useless need of a supervisor, they always go with the umpire decisions anyway. Doesnt even matter if the ball is in or out. From the moment the line judge called it out and the umpire did not correct it, thats Basilashvili point, End of the story. It doesnt matter iif she THINKS its in. She diidnt have the NEED to correct it and thats the point here. She cant prove that if she heard the out call, she was going to correct it..
I think she should call the supervisor
guy with a table on chairs is like why not bring it in if its so comfortable
call the supervisor
Tha ball was not even close. Ridiculous.
Tournament in Japan, he play with Japanese, what he wanted? 😂
It was miles out, dear God!
I really hope Nikoloz doesn't become lawyer after tennis career…
The linesman called it with his hand (apparently) and she didn't see it. Okay, she didn't hear it (because of the massive crowd there, I get it) but what's wrong her eyes? Obviously something, because she says she saw the ball land in, because clearly it did not. And then, she doesn't correct the call, then doesn't call the supervisor.... what a joke.
The supervisor can be called in a question of rule, not a question of judgement. The question of whether the ball was in or out is a question of judgement and because the supervisor is not present the responsible official is the umpire. A question of rule would be the question of whether Basilashvili expressed his opinion in an acceptable manner or not. In this case the supervisor can be called on court and after hearing the umpire's and the player's reports he may conclude on whether the player needs to be penalized for his behaviour or not and how much.
The umpire was wrong in calling the ball in, but she was correct in not asking the line judge or calling the supervisor initially, because it's a "Judgement Call".
When there's no other physical evidence like hawk eye, the umpire has to make the call based on her judgement.
So regardless the line judge called the ball in or out, if the umpire believes the ball was in, she has to call the ball in, and it's the final decision.
It's bad, but that's the meaning of "Judgement Call", that's why there's no point for her to ask the line judge what's the initial call, because that won't change the decision.
Also, supervisors don't oversee calls, but whether there has been any wrong-doing in the match.
In other words, supervisors don't make calls, but only check whether the umpire is breaking the rules.
So if Nikoloz was asking for the supervisor just to complain about the call itself, then the umpire can refuse it. Because it was a judgement call, the supervisor can't do anything about it.
But if Nikoloz was asking for the supervisor because he believes the umpire is discriminating against him, then the umpire would allow it. Because discriminating against a player is against the rules, and the supervisor can take action against it.
That's why the umpire asked Nikoloz what's the reason for the supervisor, and refused to call the supervisor initially. Because if he only wanted to complain about the call, then the umpire can't call the supervisor for it.
@@cliffchang32 Your the reason why umpires are totally in the wrong. Let me guess your a Democrat that loss the election, liberalist, far left, woke, and everything else. Your a joke. The fact was the umpire was grossly in the wrong!!
No accountability. Supervisor never over rules the umpire decision even when the umpire was in the wrong. Bad umpire, bad opponent, bad supervisor. No accountability!!!
How do you suspect the supervisor to change the call when it’s in the end a matter of judgement from the empire. He can’t know if she is right or not
@Dl4n Because supervisor never change an umpire's decision.
@ Hsieh - Cibulkova
Bad attitude, bad eyes, no knowledge. Congratulations, you're approved 🤡
ATP is a mess.
It was a late call anyways and Nikoloz's already stopped playing, so it's not his point unfortunately. If he just chipped the ball and went in then it's a replay. But the umpire's argumentation is a complete bs
1:27 15-0
2:48 30-0
Were I Basilashvili, I would rather ,,call the'' line umpire to confirm he called the ball. And then call the supervisor if that doesn't help.
All of this while very funny -that is if we decide to ignore the preversion of the tennis tradition- is really illegal to do. A player does not get unlimited time to express his opinion (time violation) and he does not get to do it in that manner, calling the umpire "idiot" and "are you really not that smart person" (unsportsmanlike conduct). He also refused to communicate dialectically, only repeated his claims and straight up said "I don't care" and "I dont want to hear your explanation".
Was the ball way out? But of course. Did she have to ensure continuous play? The current tennis cult tends to ignore that. But to ignore that isn't it precisely to do another mistake? But the player is angry we should let them express that. Since when do 2 wrongs make a right, since when is anger not a negative human behaviour and since when is it healthy to ignore the rules?
On another note, thanks for a yet another informative video and the impressive "call the supervisor count".
Great clip, keep uploading challenger dramas we love it xd, nice content!
i sure will cuz i also love them!!
jaja parece don ramón diciendo "a la casa" a la chilindrina
Ball was out by 4 inches wtf
When has there been a instance where the supervisor is on the players side as opposed to the umpire. They are completely useless. Just get rid of them, and use the money to install hawk-eye or video technology.
Who won in the end? The guy in white or the guy in black ?
moriya (guy in white)
damm youre killing me here woman, call the mtfckn super
Did she actually make a call? Did she clearly overrule? Is calling the score the same as overruling?
ball looked out, no one called anything and the ump didn’t overrule, so basil got upset because of it and also her not complying with him in calling the supervisor
Why didn't he ask for the supervisor?
you are so right, not sure why he didn’t 🤔
She got caught with her pants down, probably day dreaming and not paying attention, then tried to BS her way out of it! SO STUPID! "I dont know why to call the supervisor" - oh please he only said 30+ times!?!? ...quit your tennis judging job and go back to what you're qualified to do, like cleaning road side toilets.
What a terrible referee....
The quality of umpiring and line calls have been so pathetically bad for past few years thats this episode is not surprising. Remember the Japanese player who was wrongfully disqualified at Roland garros last year.
The supervisor is flat wrong. The umpire should always look.....LOOK....at the line judge after each point. She did not do that and was embarrassed that she got caught napping. Basilashvili is 1000% right.
and the supervisors will always take the umpire’s side, so it’s hard for the umps to be held accountable by the players
@@chargingTennisClips I know, right? It's sad. What's worse is when they watch this replay and realize how badly they messed up.
Why is she over ruling the far line? Ridiculous.
she should be fined and reviewed for this stubbornness. so bad of her to try flexing her "power" but refusing to let him talk to supervisor about the situation
edit: wow and the supervisor ended up being completely incompetent as well 😮 bad luck for nikoloz
Most sad and unfair situation. And everybody saw the ball out. The other player could have help but as a little selfish personn didn't say anything. The referee could have hear AND see the call and sha was supposed to ! She was unfair and unempathetic Basilashvilly was calm all the time while others would have break the chair. Tennis needs union for better work condition and to temper with all those wierd referee.
I didn't hear what he asked her to do?😂 but it is clear out, stupid refery
Cliffchange32 is certainly the umpire trolling around with wierd argument and non sens logic or her husband
Basilashvili was right
Basilashvili is a match fixer
Basilashvili, assaulted his former wife, Neka Dorokashvili, in front of a minor on 21 May 2020. A day later, he was arrested.
ive heard about that, not good 😬
@@chargingTennisClipsshut the f**k up you dmb! He won the case and stop spreading lies
If you feel the need to add information like this to an only sports related post then please add the full info.
He won every court and was cleared of all charges since there was no evidence.
He seems pretty chill here.
@@carlolinde4210 Yes, it's a sports-related post about an athlete who was arrested for assaulting his wife in front of their child. While he was cleared in court, his ex-wife still stands by her claim of domestic violence.
A few years ago Basilashvilli beat Zverev in a close match and I lost a bet on draftkings. Zverev was a mentally weak midget in that match and he cost me a few hundred dollars. Although Basilashvilli got screwed here, I don’t feel too bad cause he cost me some dough.
He cost me 5k€ in that masters final when he lost against Norrie 😂 fuck him