Kobe has never been Robin. I'd say Lebron James is the Robin to a Batman. He looks to pass. He's clearly not a killer. He flops around like a Jester/Robin. He is garbage from the freethrow. He's worse in the 4th quarter and only has 1 stinking move. He doesn't know how to compete and doesn't like any form of competition. He wants it all given to him. (There's Mike and Kobe). Then there's everyone else in my opinion!
I’m sick of it too! It’s wild how comfortable they are with the disrespect. Their mission is to destroy Kobe, thus eliminating him from discussions that prop up LeBron’s legacy, as the greatest in the Post Jordan era. Kobe is the least of his worries in reality. Even Steph has had his way on LeBron’s watch.
Okay then lets call Balco a.side kick too to his all Titles. Oh shoot! Kobe still got 2 Nba titles that he didn't got a co alpha! Balco ZERO BECAUSE he played with 5 more Co Alphas in all of his titles.
Dino, THANK YOU! I watched all of those Lakers runs with Kobe and Shaq. And Shaq was simply doing what he was supposed to do: outplay centers smaller than him. But Kobe? I remember someone did a shot selection during that run to prove if it weren't for Kobe? They would have never had that 3-Peat. Kobe was doing everything from facilitating, scoring, and playing hard nose defense. Shaq simply was a monster in the paint. He was doing what Lebron was supposed to do since he so much better than everybody. He didn't even dominate his own era.
This is how childish and uneducated some idiotic LeBron fans are, (God bless Kobe), Shaq couldn't had been Batman because he still had no chips and that he had to wait for Kobe to take full flight after Michael's domination..
Theyre doin this its a desperate move to gain viewers coz nba is hopeless It wouldnt take away that labron has to go to another mans sausage to get his cheap rings and stll hangin inito AD until now.
Ray Allen was already declined before 2008, so he didn't qualify for Robin status. KG was their best player, but Paul Peirce was a slightly better scorer.. The term Big 3 actually applied to them perfectly and after KG 2009 ACL tear.. Young Rondo was was making it a Big 4. Let's not rewrite history based off feelings.
Lets expose SETTLE THIS "SHAQ WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD 00-02" was he ????? 99-00 = 2nd Best team in NBA was NOT the PACERS that was the BLAZERS And in GAME 7 vs the Blazers what did MVP SHAQ do ? Shaquille O'Neal put up 18 points and added 9 rebounds and 5 assists versus the Trail Blazers in Game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals on June 4, 2000. ONLY SCORED 2 POINTS IN THE 4TH QUARTER …..Got out scored by Rasheed Wallace (30 pts) What did 21 year old kobe in game 7 ? Kobe Bryant had a double-double with 25 points and 11 rebounds against the Trail Blazers in Game 7 of the 2000 Western leading team in POINTS REBOUNDS BLOCKS AND ASSISTS (shaq should have more rebounds and blocks..) 00-01 = 2nd Best team in the NBA was NOT the 76ers that was the SPURS What did 22yr old kobe do to THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM in the league ? Kobe Bryant averaged 33.3 points, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists in 4 games in the 2001 Western Conference Finals. Shaquille O'Neal averaged 27.0 points, 13.0 rebounds and 2.5 assists in 4 games in the 2001 Western Conference Finals 01-02 - 2nd Best team in the NBA was NOT the NETS that was the SPURS/KINGS Kobe Bryant averaged 26.2 points, 5.4 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals. Shaquille O'Neal averaged 21.4 points, 12.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals. Tim Duncan averaged 29.0 points, 17.2 rebounds and 4.6 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals. (shaq getting massively outplayed by Tim Duncan) Shaquille O'Neal averaged 30.3 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks in 7 games in the 2002 Western Conference Finals. Kobe Bryant averaged 27.1 points, 6.3 rebounds and 3.9 assists in 7 games in the 2002 Western Conference Finals. CONCLUSION 00 = Shaq does NOT beat the blazers with out Kobe 01= Shaq does NOT beat the spurs without Kobe 02 = Shaq does NOT get passed the Spurs or Kings without Kobe So WE CAN NOT call the EASTERN CONFERENCE THE LEASTERN CONFERENCE and then say "SHAQ HAS 3 FINALS MVPS" well DUH Was shaq the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD in the WEST????" As we can see here that was NOT ALWAYS TRUE BTW Shaquille O'Neal averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds and 2.8 blocks in 30 games versus Tim Duncan in the playoffs in his career. Tim Duncan averaged 25.6 points, 13.0 rebounds and 3.8 assists in 30 games versus Shaquille O'Neal in the playoffs in his career. Tim duncan OUTPLAYED Shaq head to head which means shaq does NOT get OUT THE WEST minus Kobe….00 would have been his best chance without Kobe
Kobe was definitely not equal or close to Shaq til about 02ish. The team was built around Shaq. The better Kobe got & the worse Shaq got the worse the team did. That is why they didn’t wiin 03 & 04. But I think Mamba was better than Bron we just can’t take away what Shaq was in that 3 year prime.
2001. Shaq got mad fat, missed hella games. 15-1 in the playoffs after the entire year of Shaq whining about not getting shine. Why would anyone take it away? Shaq was the 1st LeBron. He needed someone to save his MVP season in the WCF.
@ it’s ok to be a fan of Kobe but trying to change history into Kobe & Shaq some how being equals in 1st 3peat is not facts. You are just doing what these Bron fans do to AD, Kyrie & Dwade. Kobe was maturing into the super star he became 02 or 03ish. But Shaq was the guy. Oh & 01 finals Shaq numbers were 33, 15.8, 5.8, & 3.4 blocks
@@drizzejohnson5767 no I’m not. You shared an opinion that wasn’t true. It’s been plenty of 1/1a designations in nba history. 01 was the season that Shaq mitched about Kobe getting shined. After updating his memori Shaq Talks Back for the 2nd time 02 - Shaq’s toe finally got the best of him. The 40 pt games came in 03. Im a year off You’re focusing on finals because what I said about the WCF (Blazers, Spurs, Kings, Spurs) rings true. Shaq doesn’t make it out of the conference if Kobe’s not a #1.
@TeezyfolKKz Yes Kobe (Robin) closed a few games.. but he also takes blame for those being close. Shot jacking vs single coverage w low shooting percentage. Ordinary all game 42%, then closed a few doesn't make it 1-1A or Superman-Batman lol please stop
@ closed a few games is the same as Shaq “dominating” a few games, right? Mane Shaq went soft when he couldn’t bully Big Ben. Any big that could move their feet feasted on Shaq when it mattered. He won FMVP because the Lakers played to their matchup. MJ wouldn’t have won MVPs if his center had such a mismatch. Buddy I know you not posting a shooting%. That’s irrelevant. It’s not a “force Kobe into shots” gameplan is it?… it’s called Hack-a-Shaq. Honestly Lakers lose 2002 if 1 of those lane violations is called.
It's all semantics.. word-play.. but KD/Steph was the only 1-1A in NBA history. Magic/Kareem was significant age difference.. Magic was clearly the better player after 1983 Kareem was annihilated by Moses Malone. Kobe was a Robin bc the eye test proved it live on TV. Let's not rewrite history 25 years later. Shaq drawing triple teams while Kobe got LeFraud treatment.. single coverage, let Kobe jack up shots. No disrespect, no "hate". It's just reality that Kobe was Robin. Superman-Batman is laughable. - don't believe me? go find the 2001 news articles. Like the channel, but if I'm branded an enemy for keeping it 💯 then that's fine. Skap Attack is discredited for being a novice who doesn't understand the 90s. He didn't need to see it, but that guy doesn't even understand it.
LMAO! Opinions are like buttholes, we all have one. Moses is a HOFer. He beat Cap in a matchup, ok? cornbread Maxwell tore the lakers up one series - What letter was he on that team?.. There have countless examples of 1/1a: Jerry West & Elgin Baylor Jerry West & Wilt Chamberlain Bob Cousy & Bill Russell Bill Russell & John Havlicek Shaq & Kobe Dr. J & Moses Steph & KD Magic & Cap Big O & Cap Walt & Willis This generation equates playing to matchups as establish hierarchy on a team. It’s not, Shaq got his lunch handed to him in every WCF series on that run. Kobe carried him past the Spurs. Phil coached them to the matchup in the finals. Kobe closed those rings. Lowkey, with the old format of 2-3-2, the Pacers really had a chance to beat them if 21 year old Kobe doesn’t close Game 4. You see what happened Game 3 & 5. Without Kobe, Shaq (the most swept superstar in history) was about to lose 3 games in a row if injured Kobe didn’t save the day. Honestly, go look at Shaq’s career playoff record for away games. He couldn’t win on the road. It’s how the lakers got swept in Utah. Mans couldn’t get by Greg Ostertag when it mattered - the 4th quarter.
@TeezyfolKKz You failed in any way to disprove the Lakers were magic's team after 1983. The only legitimate 1-1A on your list was KD/Steph. (West/Baylor yes, but no championship).. I consider your other examples Batman-Robin's. Stats & Eye test back me up, but.. again we're arguing semantics/word-play. - Also just bc Kobe stepped up and closed a few playoff games doesn't mean he wasn't a clear Robin the entire series.. Film room proves Shaq getting triple teamed, while Kobe single covered. 25 years later you not allowed to ignore the 2001 consensus in printed articles saying Kobe was Robin. No dishonor in that. Truth shouldn't hurt a real man.
@@KaineTremaineI've been reading you 2 go back and forth in the threads. It's one thing you're not understanding about why Teezy is not giving Kobe the "Robin" title. You have to factor in matchups. Shaq got his best numbers against weaker players. Go and look at every team they played in the Finals and you'll understand why Shaq was able to get those numbers. Kobe, on the other hand, throughout those the playoff runs, Kobe took over SEVERAL times when Shaq didn't show up. So, you can keep throwing out numbers all you want. Kobe did it all. He was a faciliator, a scorer, a clean-up man, a defender. Shaq only had one job: dominate in the paint. That was it. WITHOUT Kobe? Shaq would NOT have 3-peated by himself! And you know it fam. So stop trying to defend this Shaq/Kobe, Batman/Robin thing. Break the game down properly, and you'll see Kobe was much more valuable to Shaq than Shaq was to him. And that's why he can't be a Robin. That's like calling Kyrie a Robin to Lebron when clearly Lebron came to HIS team to play with him. That makes Lebron the Robin. Kobe didn't do that. Shaq did. Go ask Penny Hardaway.
@wizmanballin8498 You seriously need to stop typing on the internet.. I'm wondering if you even watched the Kobe/Shaq 3-peat. - Kobe closed a few games that featured Shaq, entire team, entire series carried by Shaq.. if Kobe didn't close, Shaq carries next game anyway. (Batman-Robin) - What part of Shaq got triple teamed while Kobe was single covered shooting 42% don't you understand? Why you boosting a Robin 25 years later into a 1-1A?
@@KaineTremaine Shaq coined himself the most dominant since we’re talking semantics. LMAO. That dominance was nowhere to be found against Ostertag in 98 & 99. The only change in 2000 was giving Kobe the starting position. Keeping it real, all the centers used to keep a bean about Shaq losing ass. He made that fake story about Admiral. He got his lunch money took by Dream. I could go on and on. Rodman had buddy playing passive. Match his strength and Shaq was nothing else. No rebounding titles, no block titles, the most dominant center of all time has one scoring title?!… lmao I’m tryna tell ya’ll Shaq was the NBA’s 1st attempt at flat out manufacturing a superstar. Both of them cats LOST a lot more than they won. Do me another favor, what teams beat Shaq in the tourney in the NCAA?
Kobe has never been Robin. I'd say Lebron James is the Robin to a Batman. He looks to pass. He's clearly not a killer. He flops around like a Jester/Robin. He is garbage from the freethrow. He's worse in the 4th quarter and only has 1 stinking move. He doesn't know how to compete and doesn't like any form of competition. He wants it all given to him. (There's Mike and Kobe). Then there's everyone else in my opinion!
Spot on
Hardworking, Determined, Never giving up, Leadership quality...
Kobe is Captain America
If kobe was still here, A LOT would be different 💯
100%
I’m sick of it too! It’s wild how comfortable they are with the disrespect. Their mission is to destroy Kobe, thus eliminating him from discussions that prop up LeBron’s legacy, as the greatest in the Post Jordan era.
Kobe is the least of his worries in reality. Even Steph has had his way on LeBron’s watch.
How quickly they forget that the 4th quarter was all about Kobe. If only he was here. I'm sure their speech would be different.
You left out the real Robin.jordan- superman;pippen-batman and RODMAN. OH MY
🤣🤣🤣
Okay then lets call Balco a.side kick too to his all Titles. Oh shoot! Kobe still got 2 Nba titles that he didn't got a co alpha! Balco ZERO BECAUSE he played with 5 more Co Alphas in all of his titles.
Dino, THANK YOU! I watched all of those Lakers runs with Kobe and Shaq. And Shaq was simply doing what he was supposed to do: outplay centers smaller than him. But Kobe? I remember someone did a shot selection during that run to prove if it weren't for Kobe? They would have never had that 3-Peat. Kobe was doing everything from facilitating, scoring, and playing hard nose defense. Shaq simply was a monster in the paint. He was doing what Lebron was supposed to do since he so much better than everybody. He didn't even dominate his own era.
This is how childish and uneducated some idiotic LeBron fans are, (God bless Kobe), Shaq couldn't had been Batman because he still had no chips and that he had to wait for Kobe to take full flight after Michael's domination..
Theyre doin this its a desperate move to gain viewers coz nba is hopeless
It wouldnt take away that labron has to go to another mans sausage to get his cheap rings and stll hangin inito AD until now.
you hear the Boston Celtics Big 3…Ray Allen and KG is not considered Robin and Paul Pierce is Batman😂😆 they never call Ray Allen a Robin
Ray Allen was already declined before 2008, so he didn't qualify for Robin status.
KG was their best player, but Paul Peirce was a slightly better scorer.. The term Big 3 actually applied to them perfectly and after KG 2009 ACL tear.. Young Rondo was was making it a Big 4.
Let's not rewrite history based off feelings.
After shaq left the lakers he only won one more ring. Kobe won 2 with pau gasol as the best player.
Who closed the game? Kobe
Who didnt close the game? LBJ
Lets expose SETTLE THIS "SHAQ WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD 00-02" was he ?????
99-00 = 2nd Best team in NBA was NOT the PACERS that was the BLAZERS
And in GAME 7 vs the Blazers what did MVP SHAQ do ?
Shaquille O'Neal put up 18 points and added 9 rebounds and 5 assists versus the Trail Blazers in Game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference
Finals on June 4, 2000. ONLY SCORED 2 POINTS IN THE 4TH QUARTER …..Got out scored by Rasheed Wallace (30 pts)
What did 21 year old kobe in game 7 ?
Kobe Bryant had a double-double with 25 points and 11 rebounds against the Trail Blazers in Game 7 of the 2000 Western
leading team in POINTS REBOUNDS BLOCKS AND ASSISTS (shaq should have more rebounds and blocks..)
00-01 = 2nd Best team in the NBA was NOT the 76ers that was the SPURS
What did 22yr old kobe do to THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM in the league ?
Kobe Bryant averaged 33.3 points, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists in 4 games in the 2001 Western Conference Finals.
Shaquille O'Neal averaged 27.0 points, 13.0 rebounds and 2.5 assists in 4 games in the 2001 Western Conference Finals
01-02 - 2nd Best team in the NBA was NOT the NETS that was the SPURS/KINGS
Kobe Bryant averaged 26.2 points, 5.4 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals.
Shaquille O'Neal averaged 21.4 points, 12.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals.
Tim Duncan averaged 29.0 points, 17.2 rebounds and 4.6 assists in 5 games in the 2002 Western Conference Semifinals.
(shaq getting massively outplayed by Tim Duncan)
Shaquille O'Neal averaged 30.3 points, 13.6 rebounds and 2.4 blocks in 7 games in the 2002 Western Conference Finals.
Kobe Bryant averaged 27.1 points, 6.3 rebounds and 3.9 assists in 7 games in the 2002 Western Conference Finals.
CONCLUSION
00 = Shaq does NOT beat the blazers with out Kobe
01= Shaq does NOT beat the spurs without Kobe
02 = Shaq does NOT get passed the Spurs or Kings without Kobe
So WE CAN NOT call the EASTERN CONFERENCE THE LEASTERN CONFERENCE and then say "SHAQ HAS 3 FINALS MVPS" well DUH
Was shaq the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD in the WEST????" As we can see here that was NOT ALWAYS TRUE
BTW
Shaquille O'Neal averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds and 2.8 blocks in 30 games versus Tim Duncan in the playoffs in his career.
Tim Duncan averaged 25.6 points, 13.0 rebounds and 3.8 assists in 30 games versus Shaquille O'Neal in the playoffs in his career.
Tim duncan OUTPLAYED Shaq head to head which means shaq does NOT get OUT THE WEST minus Kobe….00 would have been his best chance without Kobe
Kobe was definitely not equal or close to Shaq til about 02ish. The team was built around Shaq. The better Kobe got & the worse Shaq got the worse the team did. That is why they didn’t wiin 03 & 04. But I think Mamba was better than Bron we just can’t take away what Shaq was in that 3 year prime.
2001. Shaq got mad fat, missed hella games. 15-1 in the playoffs after the entire year of Shaq whining about not getting shine. Why would anyone take it away? Shaq was the 1st LeBron. He needed someone to save his MVP season in the WCF.
@ it’s ok to be a fan of Kobe but trying to change history into Kobe & Shaq some how being equals in 1st 3peat is not facts. You are just doing what these Bron fans do to AD, Kyrie & Dwade. Kobe was maturing into the super star he became 02 or 03ish. But Shaq was the guy. Oh & 01 finals Shaq numbers were 33, 15.8, 5.8, & 3.4 blocks
@@drizzejohnson5767 no I’m not. You shared an opinion that wasn’t true. It’s been plenty of 1/1a designations in nba history.
01 was the season that Shaq mitched about Kobe getting shined. After updating his memori Shaq Talks Back for the 2nd time
02 - Shaq’s toe finally got the best of him. The 40 pt games came in 03. Im a year off
You’re focusing on finals because what I said about the WCF (Blazers, Spurs, Kings, Spurs) rings true. Shaq doesn’t make it out of the conference if Kobe’s not a #1.
@TeezyfolKKz Yes Kobe (Robin) closed a few games.. but he also takes blame for those being close. Shot jacking vs single coverage w low shooting percentage.
Ordinary all game 42%, then closed a few doesn't make it 1-1A or Superman-Batman lol please stop
@ closed a few games is the same as Shaq “dominating” a few games, right? Mane Shaq went soft when he couldn’t bully Big Ben. Any big that could move their feet feasted on Shaq when it mattered. He won FMVP because the Lakers played to their matchup. MJ wouldn’t have won MVPs if his center had such a mismatch.
Buddy I know you not posting a shooting%. That’s irrelevant. It’s not a “force Kobe into shots” gameplan is it?… it’s called Hack-a-Shaq. Honestly Lakers lose 2002 if 1 of those lane violations is called.
It's all semantics.. word-play.. but KD/Steph was the only 1-1A in NBA history.
Magic/Kareem was significant age difference.. Magic was clearly the better player after 1983 Kareem was annihilated by Moses Malone.
Kobe was a Robin bc the eye test proved it live on TV. Let's not rewrite history 25 years later. Shaq drawing triple teams while Kobe got LeFraud treatment.. single coverage, let Kobe jack up shots.
No disrespect, no "hate". It's just reality that Kobe was Robin. Superman-Batman is laughable.
- don't believe me? go find the 2001 news articles.
Like the channel, but if I'm branded an enemy for keeping it 💯 then that's fine.
Skap Attack is discredited for being a novice who doesn't understand the 90s. He didn't need to see it, but that guy doesn't even understand it.
LMAO! Opinions are like buttholes, we all have one.
Moses is a HOFer. He beat Cap in a matchup, ok? cornbread Maxwell tore the lakers up one series - What letter was he on that team?..
There have countless examples of 1/1a:
Jerry West & Elgin Baylor
Jerry West & Wilt Chamberlain
Bob Cousy & Bill Russell
Bill Russell & John Havlicek
Shaq & Kobe
Dr. J & Moses
Steph & KD
Magic & Cap
Big O & Cap
Walt & Willis
This generation equates playing to matchups as establish hierarchy on a team. It’s not, Shaq got his lunch handed to him in every WCF series on that run. Kobe carried him past the Spurs. Phil coached them to the matchup in the finals. Kobe closed those rings. Lowkey, with the old format of 2-3-2, the Pacers really had a chance to beat them if 21 year old Kobe doesn’t close Game 4. You see what happened Game 3 & 5. Without Kobe, Shaq (the most swept superstar in history) was about to lose 3 games in a row if injured Kobe didn’t save the day.
Honestly, go look at Shaq’s career playoff record for away games. He couldn’t win on the road. It’s how the lakers got swept in Utah. Mans couldn’t get by Greg Ostertag when it mattered - the 4th quarter.
@TeezyfolKKz You failed in any way to disprove the Lakers were magic's team after 1983.
The only legitimate 1-1A on your list was KD/Steph. (West/Baylor yes, but no championship).. I consider your other examples Batman-Robin's. Stats & Eye test back me up, but.. again we're arguing semantics/word-play.
- Also just bc Kobe stepped up and closed a few playoff games doesn't mean he wasn't a clear Robin the entire series.. Film room proves Shaq getting triple teamed, while Kobe single covered.
25 years later you not allowed to ignore the 2001 consensus in printed articles saying Kobe was Robin.
No dishonor in that. Truth shouldn't hurt a real man.
@@KaineTremaineI've been reading you 2 go back and forth in the threads. It's one thing you're not understanding about why Teezy is not giving Kobe the "Robin" title. You have to factor in matchups. Shaq got his best numbers against weaker players. Go and look at every team they played in the Finals and you'll understand why Shaq was able to get those numbers. Kobe, on the other hand, throughout those the playoff runs, Kobe took over SEVERAL times when Shaq didn't show up. So, you can keep throwing out numbers all you want. Kobe did it all. He was a faciliator, a scorer, a clean-up man, a defender. Shaq only had one job: dominate in the paint. That was it. WITHOUT Kobe? Shaq would NOT have 3-peated by himself! And you know it fam. So stop trying to defend this Shaq/Kobe, Batman/Robin thing. Break the game down properly, and you'll see Kobe was much more valuable to Shaq than Shaq was to him. And that's why he can't be a Robin. That's like calling Kyrie a Robin to Lebron when clearly Lebron came to HIS team to play with him. That makes Lebron the Robin. Kobe didn't do that. Shaq did. Go ask Penny Hardaway.
@wizmanballin8498 You seriously need to stop typing on the internet.. I'm wondering if you even watched the Kobe/Shaq 3-peat.
- Kobe closed a few games that featured Shaq, entire team, entire series carried by Shaq.. if Kobe didn't close, Shaq carries next game anyway. (Batman-Robin)
- What part of Shaq got triple teamed while Kobe was single covered shooting 42% don't you understand?
Why you boosting a Robin 25 years later into a 1-1A?
@@KaineTremaine Shaq coined himself the most dominant since we’re talking semantics. LMAO. That dominance was nowhere to be found against Ostertag in 98 & 99. The only change in 2000 was giving Kobe the starting position. Keeping it real, all the centers used to keep a bean about Shaq losing ass. He made that fake story about Admiral. He got his lunch money took by Dream. I could go on and on. Rodman had buddy playing passive. Match his strength and Shaq was nothing else. No rebounding titles, no block titles, the most dominant center of all time has one scoring title?!… lmao
I’m tryna tell ya’ll Shaq was the NBA’s 1st attempt at flat out manufacturing a superstar. Both of them cats LOST a lot more than they won. Do me another favor, what teams beat Shaq in the tourney in the NCAA?