How Chinese Tech Giant Alibaba Lost Its Mojo | WSJ Tech News Briefing

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  • Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
  • Nearly a decade ago, it seemed like the sky was the limit for Alibaba. Much more than an e-commerce company, Alibaba was a major player in digital payments, entertainment and cloud computing. But in 2020, Alibaba’s business started to turn. A regulatory crackdown, plus changing dynamics among Chinese consumers, meant Alibaba’s grip on the market was starting to slip.
    WSJ China tech editor Liza Lin joins host Alex Ossola to talk about what happened to Alibaba, and what it will take to right the ship.
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Комментарии • 26

  • @user-sw9df6oz2e
    @user-sw9df6oz2e 7 месяцев назад +49

    "Alibaba has lost its way" ... Too funny. Quarterly revenue growth of 9%. $6.2B in FCF. Buying back roughly $1.5-2B in shares per quarter. $62B war chest. 13% Debt/Capital. Effectively serves every consumer in China. I think I'll keep buying shares. Thank you.

    • @robbrand922
      @robbrand922 7 месяцев назад +2

      Alibaba just lost its way by not focusing on its core business and started to venture into shady loan business with Alipay and micro-chip business. Their platform is old and expensive comparing with PDD without innovation for years.

    • @iTuber012
      @iTuber012 7 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. But a combination of Jack Ma overstepping and USA politics keeps this stock way undervalued

    • @ziaulislam87
      @ziaulislam87 7 месяцев назад +1

      Alibaba doesn't want to be a monopoly because China won't allow it. It still the market leader

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 6 месяцев назад

      @@ziaulislam87 exactly, thats why they create so many startups.

  • @TheCiaran1998
    @TheCiaran1998 7 месяцев назад +20

    "Shanghai based firm Alibaba". It is not based in Shanghai. It is like saying apple is based in Chicago

    • @shigai9727
      @shigai9727 7 месяцев назад

      ZERO staff from WSJ is based in China

  • @mickeylau1
    @mickeylau1 7 месяцев назад +10

    Alibaba is in Hangzhou, not Shanghai

  • @jacksonsoundcloud
    @jacksonsoundcloud 7 месяцев назад +5

    There's no doubt that Alibaba did not claim territory in "social commerce", but it's still the undisputed ecommerce leader in China. I think it's obvious that a company growing revenue at nearly 10% is not close to dead. Furthermore, it can't die, because it has a massive $62B net cash position on the balance sheet.
    The company trades for 7x cash flow while growing these cash flows at an anticipated 5-10% over the next 10 years. Pretty much in line with Apple's expected growth, except 1/4th the valuation multiple.

  • @augustus331
    @augustus331 7 месяцев назад +4

    This is actually an item of terrible quality. They're only talking about narrative and headlines whereas they don't spend a minute talking about the *SEC-verified numbers* coming out of the company.
    If you'd only consider Alibaba's subsidiaries like Lazada, Trendyol or Daraz and their presence in fast-growing economies like Indonesia, Bangladesh, Vietnam or Thailand, you'll probably realise there is much more to this company than just the Ant-Group IPO cancellation and the CCP tech-crackdown.

  • @chintandobariya472
    @chintandobariya472 7 месяцев назад +2

    With massive cash flow, Alibaba can also increase presence at Social media 😅

  • @justinbeghly1435
    @justinbeghly1435 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why is their free cash flow so much higher than its net income?

    • @user-sw9df6oz2e
      @user-sw9df6oz2e 7 месяцев назад +4

      Because Net Income includes deductions for non-cash charges. Share-based comp, amortization, goodwill impairment...look at the income statement. Meanwhile, their net cash generated through operations was much higher since we are looking at pure cash in from operations. So, when backing out the non-cash charges and subtracting capital expenditures, FCFF is higher than net income. Net Income really is a BS line item. Cash matters.

    • @Zezimh1
      @Zezimh1 7 месяцев назад

      Merchants put up money to get on their platforms. The business uses no capital.

  • @shigai9727
    @shigai9727 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shanghai based? Seriously? From Wall Street Journal?

  • @bhubestakesoponsatien1143
    @bhubestakesoponsatien1143 7 месяцев назад

    Stocks, this is the dump and buy later tactics.

  • @MithunOnTheNet
    @MithunOnTheNet 7 месяцев назад +3

    Really? Liza Lin couldn't mention what got Jack Ma ACTUALLY into trouble with the CCP?

  • @WillieSam
    @WillieSam 7 месяцев назад

    Shanghai base? is base in hang zhou! First sentence and I knew this video was bad.

  • @juliosclima
    @juliosclima 7 месяцев назад +1

    I stopped watching at "Shanghai-based tech company Alibaba" 🤣Doesn't even know the basics

  • @yijiequ662
    @yijiequ662 8 месяцев назад +1

    Alibaba was chopped into 6 pieces ? I bet big tech isnt as powerful as here...

    • @Nabrolo
      @Nabrolo 8 месяцев назад

      It was supposed to be after the crackdown but they went back on that. Especially with the economy faltering.

  • @kaiserli5987
    @kaiserli5987 7 месяцев назад +2

    Haha, Alibaba is not based in Shanghai 😂.

  • @mrb1113
    @mrb1113 7 месяцев назад

    just a copycat of AMAZON!