That is called an Air Draw Bar.. worth its weight in gold. In 1981 during my apprenticeship with my dad we had a Model 55 Index Knee mill. I was green but at tool and die school I learned about DRO’s. So I contacted a guy who came to talk with my dad and I about installing one. I’d been counting turns and accustomed to the left or right side of the screw but thought the DRO made perfect sense. My dad practically threw the salesman out the door and told me it was never going to be installed on our mill. He soon after went away to Fla with friends in a week long golf outing and told me to answer the phone and take a “few thousandths off the floor” every day while he was gone. I did the opposite. I had that guy come back and install the DRO on the mill and he was pissed the first day back. I told him to just turn it off and use it manually and he did that day. That first night my dad came back to work (as usual) and must’ve tried the DRO. The next morning my dad was in a state of absolute euphoria.. he proclaimed that with this DRO there IS NO BACKLASH!!!! He told me that from that moment on if anybody came to rob us he would stand in front of the mill/DRO and say take whatever you want but you ain’t getting my mill!! You will love that DRO because it makes your mill very accurate. Read the instructions well. You can set the resolution to read every .0005, every .0002 or every .0001. I chose .0002 and it’s close enough for milling and jig boring. If you want it closer buy a surface grinder.. you want it closer??? Buy a hone..good luck gentlemen and get that gate fixed..
Hi Steve and Don! It is REALLY nice to see you! You guys do REALLY good work!! You have a little white building out back that.. could stand a lick of paint. (hint,hint Don) I use Benny-Moore. The OLE' Bridgeport has found a good home!... Yes...She has a few stripped screws, nuts,cracked fittings, and A LOT of backlash,... but it is NOT UNLIKE the guys restoring her; At 81 + I need a few upgrades and repairs, and a heavy coat of new paint wouldn't hurt either! By the way! CHECK for tunnels under your fence!... Don may have burrowed under the fence! The BEST security system I have ever found is a good fence, and (3) WELL trained Dobermans! I have signs that read....:WARNING!.... BEWARE OF DOGS!!!... The DOBES can cross this property in (8) seconds flat!! Please call me before entering!! Best Wishes, AND GOD BLESS! Gary
Yeah but having a sign that says beware of dogs, is admitting you know that you have dogs that bite, that's intent in the laws eyes. If someone enters your property and gets bit, they can sue you and will win. The sign to have says, dogs on property.
Ah yes, the return of the Steve and Don show. I love you two and your back and forth banter. It’s always fun working together, especially when you get along with your co worker.
Nice machine. It's making me jealous seeing you guy's with short sleeve shirts on, while it was 4 bellow here overnight, and only about 7 now. Celsius that is.
I rhink ball screws on a manual mill are just asking for trouble. Not enough friction and the table can runaway from you when climb milling... too deep a cut and its gone.... hard on a machine and your hands.
Always nice to see the team back together. Glad to see the bridgeport getting some love. My personal favorite piece of machinery. I 'm like you in the shop it seems. Can't seem to keep from getting dirty no matter how hard I try.
@@10swatkins hey Steve just kidding about on the cost...yes, expensive, but the servo drives as you know are bullet proof. Will you re-surface commercially? I do need a clausing drill press table regrind...bad.
Yessir, the Klingons have the gate code and you will not rest easy for a while till a spell of geezerishness sets in and they forget everything. Nice mill. It'll go up and be happy doing it. GBWYou and the Hermit Painter!
@@10swatkins You might need to go back in time and get Lorne Green to send you a used Ravishol Pulsar out of the Battlestar Galactica. Old school would work best down there.
Hey Steve, if you get a chance, check out Keith Fenner’s videos on rebuilding his Bridgeport (Buffy). It’s pretty involved, down to each nut and bolt, it’s several videos long but if you have any questions that’s probably the best video out there. Looks like this will be a good video, thanks!
@@10swatkins yea, after I sent that I thought he doesn’t any help, sorry for what I implied. Just trying to help, do you ever watch other RUclips machinist?
@@Hoaxer51 Very few.... Some of them are into it for the money and knowing what I know makes it hard to watch... Also Lets face it there is only so much content needed about a machine shop... I mean how many times can you watch a cylinder being rebuilt or a piece being made... IF I watch other channels I find I would be just putting out more of the same content and I would get discouraged... I hope this channel is more about what goes on in a small shop out in the country and the things I run into every day...
Steve how worn are the screws? Could you machine them back to a consistent profile (but with thinner threads) and then just take it up with the nut adjustment? I did this on one and it worked OK, not much variation at the extremes of travel.
The problem with bridgeports is no matter how clapped out and shitty they are, people seem to think they're sitting on a goldmine. They're stupidly expensive compared to better mills with less recognizable name plates on them. People here sell bridgeports for >$5k, and I bought a much larger / heavier / more rigid box way CNC machine for 1/5th the cost. Now it needs work too, but all in it's going to be considerably less than any bridgeport I've seen for sale in the last 3 or 4 years locally, and a much more capable machine in every way. Larger travels, bigger spindle motor, flood coolant, full enclosure, etc etc etc.
It depends on the work you want to do with any machine.... Bridgeports are easy to run and for most people they would never use the full power of a "Better" knee mill, say a Tool Master. For me its all about the kind of work I plan for it.... I have little needs for heavy cuts, If I need to remove a lot of material its into the Bridgeport Torq Cut 22 which can move metal a hell of a lot faster than a Tool Master . Really want to move some metal and it's off to the Planer.... The work fits the machine for me.... After all you would not want your Dentist to use a jackhammer on you....
"All it needs is a nut" but I think he meant "nuthead" 🤭 We have an "Aizpurua" knee mill when we bought another company a few years ago. It now is in almost usable state but still needs a lot of TLC. It was completely greased up and black, like the most darkest and filthy spot on your Bridgeport. Everything still works but the tentioner for the motor belt (it has a variable belt drive) is rattling loose all the times and the gibs in the dovetails are completely worn out but strangely enough the lead screw and nuts still seem to be in good condition (almost no backlash). If I ever get the time, that will be a fun project to restore. Meanwhile I'll hook on to your rebuild project to learn some tricks from the master.
I've seen a lot worse on the table ways!!!! Spot them, a little oil, slap it back together and call it good!!! You'll get another 100K out of it before it craps out. Better than that rock you had. 😁😁 Got to go, fixing to be late for PT myself.😏
@@zedostenso3069 Yep! that is correct! I don't believe that the table ways on his are chromed. Could be wrong! Bridgeport offered it just about any way you wanted to buy it. If they are chromed, and he decides to put it on his planer, a good carbide tool can get under that chrome and peel it right off. But man, that's going to cause him to remove lot more material that will require cutting the saddle and installing Rulon or equivalent to make up for all of that removed.
Definitely subscribing for this journey & going back to watch some of your older video's. Love the humour & the banter with some machinery thrown in!
Welcome aboard!
You are lucky to have a good friend like Don!! Be careful!
I am!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for Watching Craig!
You two are as funny as a fight in a wheelbarrow
love the Steve and Don Show.........you guys are great to watch........
Lol ,,, the longest setup for a joke in history..
I had no idea it was a setup until you pulled up and I saw Don standing there,, THEN I knew !!
Got to keep people guessing :)
Great video and nice work 👍 I love watching you and Don dismantle machinery
Glad you like them!
That is called an Air Draw Bar.. worth its weight in gold. In 1981 during my apprenticeship with my dad we had a Model 55 Index Knee mill. I was green but at tool and die school I learned about DRO’s. So I contacted a guy who came to talk with my dad and I about installing one. I’d been counting turns and accustomed to the left or right side of the screw but thought the DRO made perfect sense. My dad practically threw the salesman out the door and told me it was never going to be installed on our mill. He soon after went away to Fla with friends in a week long golf outing and told me to answer the phone and take a “few thousandths off the floor” every day while he was gone. I did the opposite. I had that guy come back and install the DRO on the mill and he was pissed the first day back. I told him to just turn it off and use it manually and he did that day. That first night my dad came back to work (as usual) and must’ve tried the DRO. The next morning my dad was in a state of absolute euphoria.. he proclaimed that with this DRO there IS NO BACKLASH!!!! He told me that from that moment on if anybody came to rob us he would stand in front of the mill/DRO and say take whatever you want but you ain’t getting my mill!! You will love that DRO because it makes your mill very accurate. Read the instructions well. You can set the resolution to read every .0005, every .0002 or every .0001. I chose .0002 and it’s close enough for milling and jig boring. If you want it closer buy a surface grinder.. you want it closer??? Buy a hone..good luck gentlemen and get that gate fixed..
Great story! Thanks :)
I like the bag idea . I use gals, qts, and even pint bag work get . Bag and Tag it
Love that!
Hi Steve and Don!
It is REALLY nice to see you! You guys do REALLY good work!!
You have a little white building out back that.. could stand a lick of paint. (hint,hint Don) I use Benny-Moore.
The OLE' Bridgeport has found a good home!... Yes...She has a few stripped screws, nuts,cracked fittings, and A LOT of backlash,... but it is NOT UNLIKE the guys restoring her; At 81 + I need a few upgrades and repairs, and a heavy coat of new paint wouldn't hurt either!
By the way! CHECK for tunnels under your fence!... Don may have burrowed under the fence!
The BEST security system I have ever found is a good fence, and (3) WELL trained Dobermans!
I have signs that read....:WARNING!.... BEWARE OF DOGS!!!... The DOBES can cross this property in (8) seconds flat!! Please call me before entering!!
Best Wishes, AND GOD BLESS!
Gary
Last week I found a parachute in the trash can! :)
Yeah but having a sign that says beware of dogs, is admitting you know that you have dogs that bite, that's intent in the laws eyes. If someone enters your property and gets bit, they can sue you and will win. The sign to have says, dogs on property.
I feel your pain.
Mine has 120 thousandths backlash. Already bought a new nut. Soon to be making new leadscrews. Index 645 mill.
Thanks,
John
Sorry to hear that
Ah yes, the return of the Steve and Don show. I love you two and your back and forth banter. It’s always fun working together, especially when you get along with your co worker.
More to come!
Nice machine. It's making me jealous seeing you guy's with short sleeve shirts on, while it was 4 bellow here overnight, and only about 7 now. Celsius that is.
Just wait until August and 104 every day :(
@@10swatkins My garden would love that.
Check out a ball screw kit chords your mill . Cheers
I rhink ball screws on a manual mill are just asking for trouble. Not enough friction and the table can runaway from you when climb milling... too deep a cut and its gone.... hard on a machine and your hands.
I know we are going to have fun now!!!! Can't wait to see how she turns out.
Wait until you see Don with a needle gun in hand!
4 hands and a eye on a stick works
This is going to be fun to watch Steve. How long you two been friends? Nice seeing you two working together.
I think it's been three long years :)
The torque right is made up the road from me. I have one and is great...also can't beat the folks at DRO Pros.
I am hoping the DRO is usefull. Not having one on a manual machine I am not too sure...
Always nice to see the team back together. Glad to see the bridgeport getting some love. My personal favorite piece of machinery. I 'm like you in the shop it seems. Can't seem to keep from getting dirty no matter how hard I try.
I need a maid :)
All right another one to work on Look forward to the build thanks for sharing
No problem 👍
Don if you get locked out you are welcome to come paint at my shop
Don't Go DON! You will freeze to death! I nearly lost my toes to frostbite when I went last year.. And it was in July!
Heck the servo is probably worth what you paid for it...☺
No, even clapped out Bridgeport's are expensive...
@@10swatkins hey Steve just kidding about on the cost...yes, expensive, but the servo drives as you know are bullet proof. Will you re-surface commercially? I do need a clausing drill press table regrind...bad.
Have a picture of it? Send it to my email.... Shipping will probably scare you though,,,
not nuff room for any new the shop the dro works just fine
Yessir, the Klingons have the gate code and you will not rest easy for a while till a spell of geezerishness sets in and they forget everything. Nice mill. It'll go up and be happy doing it. GBWYou and the Hermit Painter!
I think I need a disrupter canon at the gate...
@@10swatkins You might need to go back in time and get Lorne Green to send you a used Ravishol Pulsar out of the Battlestar Galactica. Old school would work best down there.
@@lewiemcneely9143 Hell I'm going forward and getting Kirk and Spock!
@@10swatkins I just thought it might take an old fix for an old problem!
Your DRO is a life changer and I what the Bridgeport please I love them
Looking forward to this project. Thanks for sharing your content Steve.
Thanks for watching Eric
When you started talking about the security gate I knew exactly where you were going with it!
:)
Gatekeeper & Keymaster...( now a Codemaster )...🤔
Looking forward to watch your progress on this mill.
Hey Steve, if you get a chance, check out Keith Fenner’s videos on rebuilding his Bridgeport (Buffy). It’s pretty involved, down to each nut and bolt, it’s several videos long but if you have any questions that’s probably the best video out there. Looks like this will be a good video, thanks!
I don't think I have any questions....
@@10swatkins yea, after I sent that I thought he doesn’t any help, sorry for what I implied. Just trying to help, do you ever watch other RUclips machinist?
@@Hoaxer51 Very few.... Some of them are into it for the money and knowing what I know makes it hard to watch... Also Lets face it there is only so much content needed about a machine shop... I mean how many times can you watch a cylinder being rebuilt or a piece being made... IF I watch other channels I find I would be just putting out more of the same content and I would get discouraged... I hope this channel is more about what goes on in a small shop out in the country and the things I run into every day...
I'm looking forward to this series, love the bridgeports.
the nut is worn or would have no slop
The Nut and screw are worn badly.... There comes a time when just a nut is not enough! :)
Steve how worn are the screws? Could you machine them back to a consistent profile (but with thinner threads) and then just take it up with the nut adjustment? I did this on one and it worked OK, not much variation at the extremes of travel.
Not worth the effort.. New screws are reasonable and these are really worn out :(
The problem with bridgeports is no matter how clapped out and shitty they are, people seem to think they're sitting on a goldmine. They're stupidly expensive compared to better mills with less recognizable name plates on them. People here sell bridgeports for >$5k, and I bought a much larger / heavier / more rigid box way CNC machine for 1/5th the cost. Now it needs work too, but all in it's going to be considerably less than any bridgeport I've seen for sale in the last 3 or 4 years locally, and a much more capable machine in every way. Larger travels, bigger spindle motor, flood coolant, full enclosure, etc etc etc.
It depends on the work you want to do with any machine.... Bridgeports are easy to run and for most people they would never use the full power of a "Better" knee mill, say a Tool Master. For me its all about the kind of work I plan for it.... I have little needs for heavy cuts, If I need to remove a lot of material its into the Bridgeport Torq Cut 22 which can move metal a hell of a lot faster than a Tool Master . Really want to move some metal and it's off to the Planer.... The work fits the machine for me.... After all you would not want your Dentist to use a jackhammer on you....
The other guy looks and sounds like Fred Ziffel.
LOL... I don't think he has pigs... Dogs, a cow and a horse,, or and a cat...
Replace the lead screws with ball screws if you are going to keep the mill.
Naw, Ball screws on manuals are way to easy to have a run away and break your hand when climb milling.... Need the friction to tame it.... IMHO...
When he said it needed a NUT was he referring to the machine or YOU....
Which Nut are you asking? :)
i thought that the gibs were oil lubed not grease
?
They are..... Grease had a different meaning back in the old days.. their grease is our oil today....
When in doubt check the parts book!
Yep, Most of it is in my head, but not all :)
Remember your poker lessons. When the seller says "all it needs is a nut" look carefully around the room. If you don't see the nut . . .
:) I told him I was born at night, but not last night :)
good video
Thanks Dalen.... Working on another for Sunday
Thanks for the video Can't wait to see the ridgeport back on his feet
Didn't you say you were fixin' and keepin' your other Bridgeport?
I keep trading up... Or to some people down, when I sold the tool Master.
"All it needs is a nut" but I think he meant "nuthead" 🤭
We have an "Aizpurua" knee mill when we bought another company a few years ago. It now is in almost usable state but still needs a lot of TLC. It was completely greased up and black, like the most darkest and filthy spot on your Bridgeport. Everything still works but the tentioner for the motor belt (it has a variable belt drive) is rattling loose all the times and the gibs in the dovetails are completely worn out but strangely enough the lead screw and nuts still seem to be in good condition (almost no backlash). If I ever get the time, that will be a fun project to restore.
Meanwhile I'll hook on to your rebuild project to learn some tricks from the master.
Stick some shims behind the gibs until you have a chance to fix it right.,
I've seen a lot worse on the table ways!!!! Spot them, a little oil, slap it back together and call it good!!! You'll get another 100K out of it before it craps out. Better than that rock you had. 😁😁
Got to go, fixing to be late for PT myself.😏
Chrome ways are not scrapeble until the chrome is removed.
@@zedostenso3069 Yep! that is correct! I don't believe that the table ways on his are chromed. Could be wrong! Bridgeport offered it just about any way you wanted to buy it. If they are chromed, and he decides to put it on his planer, a good carbide tool can get under that chrome and peel it right off. But man, that's going to cause him to remove lot more material that will require cutting the saddle and installing Rulon or equivalent to make up for all of that removed.
IT is tempting.... Saddle will need some work....
I have a 20,000 pound planer that works wonders on chrome :)
How did you get so rich in the first place....please share
Worked three jobs most of my life
That table top looks nice, there’s no pecker tracks at all on it.
IT's in good shape, we start measuring next week.
Steve is looking a bit thinner ! . Must be running to the gate ....
Blasted rehab.
They are kill me at Rehab.... BUT I am feeling much better for it :)
@@10swatkins They tried to kill me but arthur beat them to it. Couldn't go there when I couldn't move!
Calm down you two , keep laughing , you will feel better .
I already have Don on Meds.. I don't think he can get calmer :)
Is that a 42” table or 49”?
Bed it's self measures 48"
👍
Yes, Frosty!
Steve you loosing weight
Don’t over do it
He might need worming!
Keeping track of Don is taking up all my eating time!
Moving along and staying out of trouble. The "Pyramid Techs " are back at it again. Thanks for the look.
Thanks John :)