I don't get it...who is referring to people's gender 'in passing', and when did a general courtesy that you give a passing stranger become a respect that must be earned? I don't really talk to people, but I don't remember anyone saying you must know pronouns before they're mentioned, nor have I ever met a stranger who came up to me yelling out their pronouns... I just don't get what the big problem is. Unless you are getting to know someone (a.k.a, not a passing stranger), what people identify as isn't any of your business.
The point he is making is that people are getting offended for assuming their gender (I.e. “excuse me, miss! You dropped your hat!” “…did you just assume my gender?!”). The part of respect being earned is aimed directly at the singer of the original video. This lib girl is singing moronic lyrics to the tune of a child’s song with the general message saying “you need to respect my pronouns.” If you want to be respected, maybe don’t demand it in such a stupid manner. Which brings the last - and by far the most - important point: her saying her pronouns aren’t preferred they are MANDATORY, is the biggest issue. If calling someone by their preferred pronouns is mandatory, then who mandates it? Police? Does this mean that anybody who doesn’t “play along” is supposed to be fined or jailed? Freedom of speech means you can identify as a boy, girl, cat, or Apache helicopter; you can’t force me to play into your delusion.
Yeah, "their" & "they're" IS how the English language works. Plus, pronouns are something we use when talking about somebody NOT to their face. So, what TF does all this pronoun shit matter? When people talk about you & you're not around they'll call you _much_ worse than the wrong pronoun! 😂😂
Basic respect for another human being is mandatory, yes. Automatically being expected to know someones pronouns? No, but most people with differing pronouns won't expect a stranger to. If you pass me by, bump into me, and say "Oh excuse me sir/ma'am" and continue on your way, you're showing basic respect to another human being. You may be using words that may make me uncomfortable, but the intent behjnd them is to be respectful and apologize. I'm not going to correct you and turn it into a big deal. I don't think anyone should. Same thing for grabbing a coffee - if it upsets you, wear an identifying pin/button of a larger size displaued prominently, or tshirt. Pronouns should be respected. But so should basic situations where people aren't using the wrong thing to be offensive and it's wrong to make a huge deal out of it. I also believe the video was probably taken out of context. I can't be sure of course. But it seems like the video is driving home the point that pronouns are mandatory, to people who intentionally refuse to use them and use dead pronouns instead. The reply/stitch comes off as unnecessarily condescending and aggressive and the orignal video does come across demanding and tantrum-like. Both content creators should work on commnicating their valid points across in a more constructive, polite way. Both are wrong - and basic respect for others isn't. Be kind. Even if you disagree, be kind.
If you look like a dude, I'll call you he. If you look like a girl, I'll call you she. If you're wearing a dress and heels and have a noticeable adam's apple and a beard, I'll call you he. You're free to identify as whoever you want, but I'm not required to play along.
When a person begins that type of gendering dialogue with me...I immediately gather that they have a few bolts loose, and just ghost them.. I'm not giving them an immature platform to expound on their childish mess..This ever growing 'make believe'...amongst the youth of today, is a prime example of becoming absorbed with one's self. "How I identify" has become the latest unproductive "look at me" syndrome..and has great psychological implications of early narcissist tendencies.
It’s presumptuous to think you are entitled to a reworking of the common language, and are in a position to be dictating what “respect” is in the first place. Your comfort is not a priority to the vast majority of people who have their own problems to worry about without needing to center you and your identity. I’m going to assume you are still able to determine intent behind a stranger’s word choice. If you know damn well no harm was intended, but still choose to get upset, that’s on you and only you. You are not entitled to try to force your beliefs on them anymore than a Christian or Muslim should be forcing their beliefs on you. If you’re walking around thinking that you are so special that it is on others to see to your emotional wellbeing, you will live an unhappy life. I’m not trying to be mean, but it’s extremely self important to go around thinking you’re in a position to lecture others on your own gender ideology, and then get upset when people don’t actually want to listen to you. And what’s particularly galling is that so many of the loudest voices in the TRA and Q+ movements are not respectful at all of anyone else’s own beliefs on sex and gender, yet are the very first to come out and start lecturing everyone else on how they need to behave while do nothing to examine how their own behavior adversely affects their own movement’s perception in society as a whole. By and large, gender ideology issues are becoming less popular and more off putting, due to the seemingly endless content of believers talking about hurting others (I.e. punching terfs, sexually assaulting those who don’t believe as they do, demanding compliance by claiming their pronouns are somehow mandatory, targeting people at work for not using their pronouns while recording them, especially when the workers being recorded don’t speak English as a first language, etc). The bottom line to most people is that your personal gender identity is your business. You have a right to live your life how you choose. But you don’t have a right to demand ideological compliance with your own gender beliefs, and are not the main character in other people’s lives. And what you’re seeing is people who are finally sick of “playing along,” as it sure doesn’t seem to make much of a difference in the behavior of the most outspoken voices online. There is no easy way to determine who believes what about their identity, and frankly, people aren’t interested in asking and never will be. Because you just aren’t that important to most people. That goes for all of us. It doesn’t matter who or what we really believe, the second we start acting entitled to more mental energy just to interact with us, is the moment you are already irritating those who have plenty of their own problems to keep them busy. If you’re truly secure in your identity then a well-meaning word of a stranger won’t be ruining your day. If you’re truly secure in your identity, then you don’t need anyone else “validating” you.
@@yakhooves The aggressive nature of your comment, aimed at a 6 month old comment which you heavily misunderstood, is completely unnecesary. I'm not anything you accuse me of. You very clearly misunderstood my comment and started typing, becoming aggressive before taking a moment to comprehend. I can see you're able to read, but you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what was being said. English has transformed in hundreds of ways throughout the years, as society grows and changes. It will continue to do so. It has done so before us and will do so long after us - if you think that is "entitlement" and "being presumptuous", then quite frankly I don't know what to tell you. As far as "comfort not being a priority" - then why do we use the bathroom privately, why do hospitals have private rooms and drapes, why are there changing rooms? Comfort is a priority to the vast majority of people. My specific comfort might not matter to every single person and does not matter in every single situation - again, you misconstrued what I said and instead of comprehending, you jumped to your keyboard to be aggressive and rude and attempt to mock, belittle and degrade rather than listen. As is apparent when you re-phrased exactly what I said: "If you know damn well no harm was intended, but still choose to get upset, that’s on you and only you." ... Exactly. You're in agreement with me, and yet you're still rude to me. I was stating that in some situations, pronouns are misused. Some people do choose to be extremely upset, and blow up on people who are just passing by in their daily life and are speaking with the intention to be respectful. If someone were to get upset in that situation over a pronoun, they are in the wrong. You cast this air of percieved superiority. Which, I understand, some people do have. I'm not one of them. My comment was stating that yes, some people do get extremely upset and are too pushy with their opinions. But respect goes both ways. Even if I myself am not Muslim, I still want my Muslim co-worker to have the space, privacy and comfort to practice their religion. I want Christians to have their churches and their pastors. You're misunderstanding the idea of repect, and assuming I expect it to be one-way. If you're leaving such a nasty response to a comment from 6 months ago, percieving this idea of a stranger on the internet from a couple of paragraphs and being rude to them... you're clearly the one leading the unhappy life. You state you're not trying to be mean, but you're hypocritical. You've been defensive, offensive, rude, dismissive, you've projected your thoughts onto me, you've tried to belittle me and you've been condescending. You're the exact type of person I have an issue with. You hide behind the internet, excuse yourself, and yet mock and disrespect others the second they don't agree with you. I wasn't lecturing anyone at all. You completely took my comment and ran in the wind with it. I saw issues with both the original video and the reply. I also said that some people take their pronouns too seriously, such as in situations where people are genuinely meaning no harm. I also didn't attack this video. I simply said content creators need to work on their communication - which, again, is a point you seem to agree on and yet you are treating me without respect. You say people use their voices and are not respectful of anyone else's beliefs, but where here have you shown respect for others beliefs? Where have you shown respect to me, who commented my own opinion? You were rude because you disagreed and targeted me. You're no different than the people who make you upset. Again, people need to work on communication and respect - and that means all people. Have a wonderful rest of your day. :)
Did the original person ever say "you must automatically know my pronouns"?? Pretty sure they were saying "once you know my pronouns, those are the ones to use for me." And it legit takes like 2 seconds to ask "oh what are your pronouns, btw?" THATS how you find out someone's pronouns if they don't offer them up front lol. Literally no one is demanding people to know their pronouns automatically
@@Squidalo I mean, if someone were to use the incorrect pronouns with you, you correct them, and then they STILL insist on using the wrong pronouns, you'd get pretty annoyed too, right? Same thing with names.
This man is becoming a Canadian Legend of epic proportions !!
Where can I find him online?
You expect me to remember all this extra stuff yet i can barely remember your name on a good day😅😅😅😅
Fuckin ledgend 😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌🙌
This song needs to be made professionally and sold.
I want to be him when I grow up! Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Now THIS is what they need to be teaching instead of "some men have periods".
"And if you wanna be she, or a they, a zur, a zee. Good for you but you can't make me play along!"
If you're gonna call yourself Zur, you better be selling exotics on behalf of the 9
Pretty good little ditty there friend
FR THO
Mandatory.? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
the point is they tell you
They arent mandatory. No law written that proves that. I dint have to say your oro bullshit. Take me to court. It will just get thrown out.
I don't get it...who is referring to people's gender 'in passing', and when did a general courtesy that you give a passing stranger become a respect that must be earned? I don't really talk to people, but I don't remember anyone saying you must know pronouns before they're mentioned, nor have I ever met a stranger who came up to me yelling out their pronouns... I just don't get what the big problem is. Unless you are getting to know someone (a.k.a, not a passing stranger), what people identify as isn't any of your business.
The point he is making is that people are getting offended for assuming their gender (I.e. “excuse me, miss! You dropped your hat!” “…did you just assume my gender?!”). The part of respect being earned is aimed directly at the singer of the original video. This lib girl is singing moronic lyrics to the tune of a child’s song with the general message saying “you need to respect my pronouns.” If you want to be respected, maybe don’t demand it in such a stupid manner. Which brings the last - and by far the most - important point: her saying her pronouns aren’t preferred they are MANDATORY, is the biggest issue. If calling someone by their preferred pronouns is mandatory, then who mandates it? Police? Does this mean that anybody who doesn’t “play along” is supposed to be fined or jailed? Freedom of speech means you can identify as a boy, girl, cat, or Apache helicopter; you can’t force me to play into your delusion.
You say they .
You said they also in your song.
Yeah, "their" & "they're" IS how the English language works. Plus, pronouns are something we use when talking about somebody NOT to their face. So, what TF does all this pronoun shit matter? When people talk about you & you're not around they'll call you _much_ worse than the wrong pronoun! 😂😂
This guy must be fun at parties...
Which one?
@@Angryegg387fr the second guy would be a legend at parties.
TBH, he's a rockstar!
He is the best. I would know who to talk with on that party.
Calm down Theydy, he definitely would be, dude's funny as fuck
Basic respect for another human being is mandatory, yes.
Automatically being expected to know someones pronouns? No, but most people with differing pronouns won't expect a stranger to. If you pass me by, bump into me, and say "Oh excuse me sir/ma'am" and continue on your way, you're showing basic respect to another human being. You may be using words that may make me uncomfortable, but the intent behjnd them is to be respectful and apologize. I'm not going to correct you and turn it into a big deal. I don't think anyone should. Same thing for grabbing a coffee - if it upsets you, wear an identifying pin/button of a larger size displaued prominently, or tshirt.
Pronouns should be respected. But so should basic situations where people aren't using the wrong thing to be offensive and it's wrong to make a huge deal out of it.
I also believe the video was probably taken out of context. I can't be sure of course. But it seems like the video is driving home the point that pronouns are mandatory, to people who intentionally refuse to use them and use dead pronouns instead. The reply/stitch comes off as unnecessarily condescending and aggressive and the orignal video does come across demanding and tantrum-like.
Both content creators should work on commnicating their valid points across in a more constructive, polite way. Both are wrong - and basic respect for others isn't. Be kind. Even if you disagree, be kind.
Pronoun should not be respected, that's your opinion. Don't make me (or anyone else) to play along.
If you look like a dude, I'll call you he. If you look like a girl, I'll call you she. If you're wearing a dress and heels and have a noticeable adam's apple and a beard, I'll call you he. You're free to identify as whoever you want, but I'm not required to play along.
When a person begins that type of gendering dialogue with me...I immediately gather that they have a few bolts loose, and just ghost them.. I'm not giving them an immature platform to expound on their childish mess..This ever growing 'make believe'...amongst the youth of today, is a prime example of becoming absorbed with one's self. "How I identify" has become the latest unproductive "look at me" syndrome..and has great psychological implications of early narcissist tendencies.
It’s presumptuous to think you are entitled to a reworking of the common language, and are in a position to be dictating what “respect” is in the first place. Your comfort is not a priority to the vast majority of people who have their own problems to worry about without needing to center you and your identity. I’m going to assume you are still able to determine intent behind a stranger’s word choice. If you know damn well no harm was intended, but still choose to get upset, that’s on you and only you. You are not entitled to try to force your beliefs on them anymore than a Christian or Muslim should be forcing their beliefs on you. If you’re walking around thinking that you are so special that it is on others to see to your emotional wellbeing, you will live an unhappy life.
I’m not trying to be mean, but it’s extremely self important to go around thinking you’re in a position to lecture others on your own gender ideology, and then get upset when people don’t actually want to listen to you. And what’s particularly galling is that so many of the loudest voices in the TRA and Q+ movements are not respectful at all of anyone else’s own beliefs on sex and gender, yet are the very first to come out and start lecturing everyone else on how they need to behave while do nothing to examine how their own behavior adversely affects their own movement’s perception in society as a whole. By and large, gender ideology issues are becoming less popular and more off putting, due to the seemingly endless content of believers talking about hurting others (I.e. punching terfs, sexually assaulting those who don’t believe as they do, demanding compliance by claiming their pronouns are somehow mandatory, targeting people at work for not using their pronouns while recording them, especially when the workers being recorded don’t speak English as a first language, etc).
The bottom line to most people is that your personal gender identity is your business. You have a right to live your life how you choose. But you don’t have a right to demand ideological compliance with your own gender beliefs, and are not the main character in other people’s lives. And what you’re seeing is people who are finally sick of “playing along,” as it sure doesn’t seem to make much of a difference in the behavior of the most outspoken voices online.
There is no easy way to determine who believes what about their identity, and frankly, people aren’t interested in asking and never will be. Because you just aren’t that important to most people. That goes for all of us. It doesn’t matter who or what we really believe, the second we start acting entitled to more mental energy just to interact with us, is the moment you are already irritating those who have plenty of their own problems to keep them busy.
If you’re truly secure in your identity then a well-meaning word of a stranger won’t be ruining your day. If you’re truly secure in your identity, then you don’t need anyone else “validating” you.
@@yakhooves The aggressive nature of your comment, aimed at a 6 month old comment which you heavily misunderstood, is completely unnecesary.
I'm not anything you accuse me of. You very clearly misunderstood my comment and started typing, becoming aggressive before taking a moment to comprehend. I can see you're able to read, but you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what was being said.
English has transformed in hundreds of ways throughout the years, as society grows and changes. It will continue to do so. It has done so before us and will do so long after us - if you think that is "entitlement" and "being presumptuous", then quite frankly I don't know what to tell you.
As far as "comfort not being a priority" - then why do we use the bathroom privately, why do hospitals have private rooms and drapes, why are there changing rooms? Comfort is a priority to the vast majority of people. My specific comfort might not matter to every single person and does not matter in every single situation - again, you misconstrued what I said and instead of comprehending, you jumped to your keyboard to be aggressive and rude and attempt to mock, belittle and degrade rather than listen. As is apparent when you re-phrased exactly what I said: "If you know damn well no harm was intended, but still choose to get upset, that’s on you and only you." ... Exactly. You're in agreement with me, and yet you're still rude to me. I was stating that in some situations, pronouns are misused. Some people do choose to be extremely upset, and blow up on people who are just passing by in their daily life and are speaking with the intention to be respectful. If someone were to get upset in that situation over a pronoun, they are in the wrong.
You cast this air of percieved superiority. Which, I understand, some people do have. I'm not one of them. My comment was stating that yes, some people do get extremely upset and are too pushy with their opinions. But respect goes both ways. Even if I myself am not Muslim, I still want my Muslim co-worker to have the space, privacy and comfort to practice their religion. I want Christians to have their churches and their pastors. You're misunderstanding the idea of repect, and assuming I expect it to be one-way. If you're leaving such a nasty response to a comment from 6 months ago, percieving this idea of a stranger on the internet from a couple of paragraphs and being rude to them... you're clearly the one leading the unhappy life.
You state you're not trying to be mean, but you're hypocritical. You've been defensive, offensive, rude, dismissive, you've projected your thoughts onto me, you've tried to belittle me and you've been condescending. You're the exact type of person I have an issue with. You hide behind the internet, excuse yourself, and yet mock and disrespect others the second they don't agree with you.
I wasn't lecturing anyone at all. You completely took my comment and ran in the wind with it. I saw issues with both the original video and the reply. I also said that some people take their pronouns too seriously, such as in situations where people are genuinely meaning no harm. I also didn't attack this video. I simply said content creators need to work on their communication - which, again, is a point you seem to agree on and yet you are treating me without respect. You say people use their voices and are not respectful of anyone else's beliefs, but where here have you shown respect for others beliefs? Where have you shown respect to me, who commented my own opinion? You were rude because you disagreed and targeted me.
You're no different than the people who make you upset. Again, people need to work on communication and respect - and that means all people.
Have a wonderful rest of your day. :)
Its crust-ache is gross
Can anybody tell me who this dude is he seems pretty based
I've been trying to find out who this guy is myself. Absolute Legend
By asking?
Did the original person ever say "you must automatically know my pronouns"?? Pretty sure they were saying "once you know my pronouns, those are the ones to use for me."
And it legit takes like 2 seconds to ask "oh what are your pronouns, btw?"
THATS how you find out someone's pronouns if they don't offer them up front lol. Literally no one is demanding people to know their pronouns automatically
i miss when people didn't get so mad over dumb shit like what the want to be called (I'm not saying that you are I'm just saying)
@@Squidalo I mean, if someone were to use the incorrect pronouns with you, you correct them, and then they STILL insist on using the wrong pronouns, you'd get pretty annoyed too, right? Same thing with names.
oh ok now i get it ty@@Thirrin73
@@Squidalo you're very welcome!
I can barely remember where I live, Im not gonna bother with this crap too.