wow dude. this is probably the most respectful well-made documentary about kurt and nirvana that i’ve ever seen. i’m an addict in recovery and as odd as it sounds, the kurt cobain story has always been comforting to me. addicts can also be good and genuine people.
Congratulations on recovering~ you’re very courageous and admirable to take the steps to fight this disease. Coming from a family filled and fueled by addiction I know how harmful it is and how much good it destroys. But there is hope & wish you so much success. You are a good person~ most addicts are. They fill emotional needs with substances~ numbing pain, abuse, feeling unwanted, unloved & many other things no one should ever have to feel. Especially little children and especially when the disease lives on through them. It can be a vicious cycle… often a terribly lonely one. And for anyone who doesn’t believe addiction is a disease: I’m glad you were blessed and fortunate enough to be sheltered from these things. And I pray your ignorance continues and you never suffer from the horrors that this disease causes. Kurt was such a fragile soul who hated the spotlight and his major mental illness only added to his misery. People expected him to be a god, which he hated. I totally understand why his story would comfort others. To know someone else knows exactly how you feel makes one feel less lonely, more normal, understood, In some cases. It hurt my soul knowing what Kurt went through during their biggest successes. He hated the limelight while Courtney loved it. Many fans of Nirvana, Soundgarden, AIC, etc, were people these guys detested. Not the type of people they were naturally drawn to & they didn’t like that they were fans. Seeing Kury’s emotional state on stage sometimes actually made me cry. He looked like a terrified, miserable little boy. Please keep fighting. You matter so much, you can change the world for some people, you CAN change the course of this horrible disease for YOU and the people who love you.❤️ Take care, saying prayers for your success, wishing you only good things 💜 Ps~ o hate to sound corny but I do believe everything I said. I’ve lived with so much addiction in my life and they were the salt of the earth~ wonderful inspiring people who loved the very relationships they destroyed because they couldn’t fight their demons. It breaks my heart to this very day~ 30 years later.
I’m genuinely impressed. As a three-decade Nirvana fan, I think you did an amazing job putting this together. The old footage of the band in their candid moments is pure gold.
I was much too young to really follow it all. I just liked the band, never watched TV much at all so I was not in the loop. Now I am highly interested however, pretty sure this guy saved a lot of lives, but like Chester, he couldn't save himself.
Your right. But I hate that people pour all this negativity on her. Kurt Cobain loved her and no matter what happened, COURTNEY LOVE DID NOT PULL THE TRIGGER. It’s ridiculous to think she killed him. Though I do agree with you, she did have an impact on what would happen.
She's the one who tried to get him into rehab than she also checked herself into rehab. But I guess people will apply conjecture and go on a Yoko Ono witch hunt for the love of salacious drama.
I wasn’t even alive for the 90s but regardless this is one of the few celebrity deaths that hits me quite hard, and I wasn’t even around for it. The more I learn about Kurt, the more I empathize with him and also relate to him in certain aspects. It makes me very sad that we lost such a talented and genuine person so young.
Holy shit I feel like an old man now. The 90`s? The first few tears, 90-94 were okay, but later on it was just non-stop work work work. I guess I should be happy that I worked so much overtime and beefed up my 401K, and spent very little money because I was too busy working!!!! The 80`s was my decade. Holy shit was it a wild time to be a teenager becoming a young man. It was a 10 yr. party.
@@annwethenorth Are you talking about my comment? I would be called Gen. Z if I payed or put any stock in generational "tags", but I do not. Ego? Saying that all I did was rack up tons of overtime during the 90`s is just a fact, no more , no less. Saying the 80`s were my decade is true because I was 13 in 1980 and 23 in 1990. That is going from puberty to manhood, and it is the years one finds their views and tastes , and you become who you are in every way. Ego? There is nothing egotistical in my comment. So, if it is me you are speaking(actually insulting) to, I find it pretty sad. YOU are the one dragging that huge ego around. It must get tiresome because it is huge. If it ain`t me, my apologies. Btw., what do you mean by "No, it doesn`t?" That sentence doesn`t fit anything.
Lmfao@@gib59er56literally NO ONE talking to you, your first comment was dvmb because it had NOTHING to do with OP's comment and your second comment was even crazier cause now you're tagging people and acting like they tagged you in a comment, go get your head checked old man, you're losing your mind 😂
I’m still so sad about Kurt’s death. I feel so lost. I’ll never forget the day I heard the news that he died. So many of my favorite musicians are dead now but their music will live on forever. Rest in peace Kurt you’re gone but will never be forgotten.
Same thoughts. I remember where I was and who I was with. My friend and I were watching MTV, didn't know that he had passed, then they started talking about it and we both burst into tears. It felt surreal back then. He was such an important part of our culture to us growing up back then. For a long time I could no longer listen to Nirvana afterward.
“I tried hard to have a father but instead I had a dad. I just want you to know that I don’t hate you anymore”. Can totally hear where those lyrics came from in these tapes.
I'm only 8 minutes in and I'm completely hooked. I really like the way you're using the tapes to narrate the story and you popping in to fill any gaps. It's just great work. Kudos.
I thought it was good until the whole 'Courtney bad, Kurt the victim' started. Every sentence about Courtney is negative. Like Kurt was this perfect god and she is Hitler. Beyond ridiculous. I stopped caring.
@@CanadianHorseFacethat bitch Really Was & still IS a Faulty-ass Evil self-centered satanist undercover transgender P.O.S.!! Not saying he was perfect but wearing his heart on his sleeve (often to the point of whiney) Was kinda his main thing if you knew his music at All youd know that!!
@@rockrealmmI've not seen anything else you've done i just found you . This is a top notch production. Whatever you tried new it worked. Earned a instant sub. I look forward to the next.
Coming up on the 30th anniversary of his death, it still feels like yesterday and so surreal. I was 17 and he was my idol. I thought this was really well done and, you gave Kurt and his fans who lived through the hurt of his passing the respect they all deserve. My opinion is, Kurt was an easy target. Courtney’s career blossomed after his death and, too many shady characters are involved. This is a case that is easily solved, especially with the technology we have today and preserved evidence. Too bad that secrets and money seem more important than a life. RIP Kurt…you are still with us because we won’t forget you.
I agree. I live in Florida now but i was about 15 or so when this happened, lived in West Canada. What a tragedy this case hasnt been reopened. Interesting that the first man she offered money wws decapitated, as Kurt had tried to kill himself like that as a kid. Its symbolic. Kurt was so talented as a writer, singer. I dont think he'd left his daughter to Courtney in a world like this.
The death of Kurt Cobain will forever be one of the most unfortunate and most tragic cases in music history. Murder or suicide, in the end it's all just terrible what happened.
Your documentaries are alot better than most "professionally" made ones I've seen about music. There are some pretty good ones about Kurt too, so that's saying alot.
@@ghijbvhiigvh3940 Soaked in Bleach is a steaming load of horse manure. Kurt was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family. deal with it
@@Andronicus87 she didn't break up the band and Kurt made all his own decisions including the one to end his life no matter how much you clowns want to blame mommy.
When Kurt is talking about his parents divorcing and all of his friends parents getting divorced at the same time I can’t help but think about the book “The 4th Turning” Kurt even questions the way his parents generation was raised saying “something isn’t right with the way they were brought up” It’s a super interesting book and Nirvanas music is a perfect reflection of his generation as it’s described in that book.
No matter what we can say that Courtney coming into Kurt’s life was the worst thing . I didn’t know Kris didn’t goto the wedding because he didn’t agree with the relationship….. a true man and a good man. Courtney definitely drive a wedge between Kurt and the band
He didn’t seem to think so. Stop acting like you knew these people. You didn’t. People who actually knew them have said that he would have offed himself way sooner if he hadn’t met Courtney. He said the same thing in his last interview. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@dewilew2137No disrespect! He said he would have offed himself in a satirical way if he couldn’t find a cure to his stomach problem. He also said in the same interview that he was very happy in himself and there was a large amount of people that were within his inner circle involving family, friends, and his lawyer that knew him very well that said he was not suicidal. Sorry, none of us were there so anyone can have their own opinion without being insulted. Nobody knows the truth. Not even you 🎉
@@kirstymedcalf4115 He literally said he used to be much more sad and angry, and most of that is due to the fact that he didn’t have “a mate”. He said that now that he has a woman in his life, life just seems better. He said he also didn’t want a child until he met Courtney. He loved his wife, period. She changed his life for the better. Unfortunately, he suffered from bipolar disorder, and that’s what led to his fluctuations in mood. NOBODY who actually knew him thinks he was murdered. It’s a ridiculous theory made up by people who don’t know him or his circumstances. The closest people to him don’t suspect any foul play. That should be enough for you, but isn’t, because you don’t want to believe the truth. It’s pathetic as hell.
@@dewilew2137 Yes! He loved his wife and then fell out of love with his wife when he filed for a divorce. The people who knew him very very well were his Grandpa, who later gave an interview and said Kurt had told him that he'd found love with another woman, and Buzz Osborne advised him (after he admitted that CL was abusive towards him, and this was witnessed by other people) was to leave her the lot and run. The police were called to their house and Kurt was found in a closet hiding from CL because she was being particularly abusive and narcissistic towards him that night. They were a bad match for each other and in the end, she made Kurt feel miserable.
Posthumusly Courtney said 'why didn't you just quit then, stop being a rockstar.' But on the other hand, while he was still alive, she was bitching and pushing him to do Lollapalooza for the money. When she speaks with a forked tongue, which is pretty much all the time, why should anyone believe her ever? She's always covering her tracks with different stories, I think in hopes of causing lots of confusion, and because of being too high on drugs she forgets what she said previously. Truth is she was pressuring him to remain a rockstar because he was her cash cow. This is a very good documentary in that it brings up some of inconsistancies that have lead to lingering questions that have not been fully answerd or satisfactorily explained. Some of them totally defying logic. Well done creator! And thank you for leaving those captions up on the screen just a little bit longer for the visually impaired, very thoughtful.
I'm with you. Knowing he was going to divorce her, would of sent her into shock. Her bank would be gone. I'd never believe a word she ever uttered (even before he died). She's far too 'clever' (and her telling the vigil to call him an asshole, just completely sums her up)
Yeah, I appreciate that the creator left the captions up longer as well. Sometimes I'm distracted by my real life and it's nice to be able to still catch what it says, plus, I like to let the words really sink in before moving on so quickly. I think that's more respectful to the subject matter at hand, especially in this case. RIP Kurt Cobain 🌠
Well, considered the fact that KC didn't want to play there because it was too comercial and against his pseudo-punk ethos (lets just ignore for some seconds that he signed Nirvana to a major label for a 7 albuns contract and wanted to be the biggest band in the world, acording to his own words), and considered that Nirvana almost didn't play live in 92 because of his drug habit and how depressed he was with Nirvana and life, its dificult to say that having someone next to you, pushing you for doing things, was a bad thing.
@andrepereira744 He absolutely wanted adoration, got it, then became conflicted due to his own mixed up pseudo-ideology. He wasn't a musical saviour, just a guy whose band got lucky and rode the crest of a media-wave. He was well off financially, yet personally weighed down by personal demons he just couldn't shake. His partner was hardly a help in this respect He's become a benchmark and talisman and he's earned immortality through his group and notorious ending
@@sexobscura I agree with everything, execpt the part about his partner. I mean, I can imagine Courtney was not "roses and puppies" all the time, but 99% of times its better to have someone to share your problems, than not having. Also, he OD several times (its well documented). I was not there, but I can bet Courtney save him "one or two times".
I have seen some Parents personally as well overreacting to a child in a restaurant misbehaving. The over reaction by the parent can stick with you forever. I can totally relate to everything Kurt says.
@@BigBillKelly-x2zi hope this is a joke lol. from someone who’s experienced ACTUAL child abuse this isn’t shit except for parents doing their best and you overreacting
It depends. If I knew that my ex was a great role model and my child would be better off in his capable hands considering both parents were junkies then I'd say no problem.
@@natahliak7691 I'm sure they Had da $ 2 Find some1 else that Had a Good Resume? Don't know y Kurt went on with it??? But I think He had His mind made Up what He was going to Do 2Himself.Even da note says U both will be better Off with Me Gone.😵
Kurt and Nirvana made the world a little more tolerable for many of us. More than the rockstar you can tell he is a beautiful soul and I hope that wherever he is he has found the serinity, passion and love that is nearly impossible to find in this world.
Its interesting he mentions gastro-intestinal issues soo much, and that being a driving cause of his heroin use, because I was in a similar situation. Gastro-intestinal issues happen to be a physical side effect of a host of untreated psychological issues. Trauma, depression, dysphoria, neurodivergency... pretty much anything that either causes you to be, or is caused by stress of being an "outsider". Its difficult for doctors to find the cause of these issues as well, because they're looking to treat the body rather than the mind. Idk what Cobain's case was, but it is interesting to note.
As someone who was dying of Endometriosis and Sepsis, and former addict i can attest to the pain, mental anguish of being alone in the pain....ontop of living and making a living..i was too, on Oxy. After 12 years i moved to Heroin. Being clean 2 years, the pain from all the physical issues has never gone away. Life CAN still be BETTER. With the right ppl, or even one person in support of your recovery. .... Sadly, Kurt, with all his fame and money didnt have that. I wish that Duff had grabbed him that night before the car left the airport. Who knows if it would have changed anything.
@@ValeryenPivkoregardless of what its caused by, there is a way to find a solution. I find it rich that these ppl had an intervention on Kurt when they were all junkies themselves.
It's even scarier when you've got to an age way past the age he died and you can appreciate just how young he was when he died. 27 is no age at all but he left a lasting legacy and not many of us have that privilege.
@@markrosenquist8259 it also doesn't have to be illegal drugs. There's millions of people out there physically and mentally addicted to prescribed medication and the withdrawals can be just as hard to endure.
My man. Rarely do I comment on these threads I guess you call them, or RUclips in general. this doc was done with such taste and class that even this seasoned Cobain researcher's eyes were forced open. You have a bright future behind the camera. Please bring this same passion to other events/happenings and I will certainly be there. Kudos brother. great reporting.
Still love Kurt. The world got a lot more sad when Kurt left. I still don't believe he committed suicide, but if he did I hope he is no longer fighting addiction or in pain. We miss you Kurt.
Check out Nirvana on Top of the Pops... That'll have you in stitches. You can find it on RUclips. Don't quote me, but I heard the story goes something like this...Nirvana arrived at the studio and was told what song to play and that the music wasn't really going to be live to the viewers at home... Only Kurt's vocals were. Kurt and the band was so pissed off that they ran with the information that was presented and made TOTP look like fools
@@WilliamSussman "i wish i was like you, easily amused, find my nest of salt, everything's my fault, i'll take all the blame, aqua (her eye color) seafoam (tears) shame.... "
i'm Kurts' age...i lived through this in real time. I saw Nirvana live 3 times (in the Texas Triangle) in 91? and then again during the US leg of Utero in 93. Two things that has alway (and still) runs through the fabric over and over for Kurt: SHAME. He not only wrote about it in several songs, but spoke about it often within interviews an in passing (from his own mouth (a/v) and written word(s). Not by someone who wasn't even around during this short period of time. Then to come from hindsight, which 99.9% of these type of uploads are loaded with errors, omissions. As for 'shame', it's propped up by reputation and perfectionism, both things that Kurt was not equipped to overcome. The turmoil is an internal conflict which a solution is needed. Thing is, a temporary solution works until it does NOT and that's the biggest fear of all. Without the tools of willingness, accurate information, a healthy perspective, another outcome is sought. With each passing year, and each subsequent post, his legacy becomes more watered down, and outliers of narratives take own a life of their own. Reality is no longer a factor, and his dignity chipped away and it's disgusting that there's literally nothing more to grasp. What maintains my peace is that: NO ONE can ever hurt him again.
rather be dead than cool. idk. seems to me like he just didn’t have many friends. and a wrecked ego. smart and sexy make people really judge you. but idk ask some people who did it
@sabbracadabra8367 pretty sure you couldn't have changed his outcome with one discussion, that's pretty fucking full of yourself to say. Say it back and think about it again "I could have made a depressed, child abused heroin junkie with a chronic stomach problem that no doctor could properly diagnose or treat, who felt trapped by the fame that came from doing the things that he most loved in life - I could have made that guy not kill himself with a simple conversation" - yeah, no. You need a firmer grip on reality.
@sabbracadabra8367 "Hard to not blame the parents. Destroying a child's world aged 8, that's going to have a serious impact" Your comments always have UTTER BS! People get divorced every day, and most people forget that its better a divorce than having a shitty marriage. "he was abandoned afterwards too" FFS, that's pathetic from all angles! He was never abandoned!! When you say he was abandoned, he was already a teenager, rebelling against everything, including his own family. Relationships are a two-way street and according to his own words, he was very problematic with his mother and father with the intention of punishing them for their divorce. Stop portraying him as if he were a simple boy who just wanted to eat his vegetables and do his homework.
@sabbracadabra8367 Fair enough about the kid part, I agree with that, for sure. Now about the rest, it's still nonsense bs. You have a romantic idea of the thing, and obviously you've already read a lot press specializing in it. "Homework and vegetables" because you, and a "few others", like to portray KC as a holy, innocent weak naive man who wouldn't hurt a fly, because you're such a die-hard fans. The "tragic hero, who no one cared about". You speak as if his parents had thrown him out on the street next to the trash can when he was 7 years old! In your head, his parents only got divorced with the intention of hurting him, because they were sadists and evil people...smh It's like I said, KC himself spoke in interviews about being a weirdo and problematic teenager by choice and his share of responsibility, for being "expelled" from various family members' homes. But he was "expelled" to another house, not to the streets. And as we also know, sometimes it was he himself who chose to stay away from home, like when he slept in the lobby of the hospital or hotel, I don't remember exactly. You are diehard fans and have read and watched a lot about him, but you always “choose” to ignore some of his words and actions, so as not to destroy the image of the “holy and naive man”.
I am so grateful to have grown up in the 90s. It was truly an amazing decade when it comes to music in all genres, but it is also one of the saddest ones. Of all the amazing and unique bands that came along during that era, very few of them are still standing and relevant today. Very few of the most notable singers of that era made it to 55, and many didn't even make it to 30. People like Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Bradley Nowell, Scott Weiland, Chris Cornell, Shannon Hoon, Andrew Wood, Deloris O'Riordan, Chester Bennington, and many others can be counted among the most unique and talented singers and songwriters to ever grace the stage, and all of them died at a young age. Of all the major bands of that era, only Green Day has survived to this day with their original lineup intact, and with no significant periods of inactivity. Nearly every major band from the 90s has had at least one member die, or formed as the result of a death from a previous band. I look at the carnage from that decade, and I often wonder what could have been. I wonder how different music would be today if some of these bands had survived longer.
The world is too savage.... that's why I refuse to participate in it. Wasn't there a rumour that Paul Walker was about to expose some P3d0s as well right before he died?
There were 3 fucking people in Green Day, man. And you can't try to blame Pearl Jam for forming out of tragedy. And guess what, people leave bands. That happens. REM was around in the 80s but blew the fuck up in the 90s, none of them are dead, but they broke up. Then again, you're clearly a lover of the flannel generation. Plenty of other people who came before that are still making music, too. Lots of the people you mention also had drug problems out the ass.
@@allisoncolby7851 Cornell wasn't murdered. He killed himself the same day that Ian Curtis from Joy Division did, and he had mentioned them as an influence back when they first started. Cornell was on a medication that hit him hard, and he got hit with a moment of sadness and desperation and he gave in to the darkness, he might have thought of the symbolism and just gone for it. Courtney had acted before, she was in Sid N' Nancy, and also some other movies, but clearly you don't actually know WTF you are talking about. You just want to be another person spewing conspiracy theories that mean nothing. Kurt's friends knew him, and knew the trouble he was in. Why the fuck do you think REM wrote a song about him called "Let Me In?" Stipe was trying to get Kurt to do something with him, desperately, because he could see the pain he was in. Kurt LOVED REM. That's why they bought the house next door to Peter Buck when he moved to Seattle.
Nice job with this one dude. Being a fan of Kurt and Nirvana i can honestly say this was well put together. Thanks for taking the time editing this. I remember the day it happened. Most of my friends were shocked and super sad. The following week at school sucked. We were all depressed playing Nirvana on repeat. Couple of my friends were in bands so when we were just hanging out they would jam , but heavy. Like anger heavy. Wont say who but one kid was balling his eyes out. Because at the time we thought it was an overdose then the conspiracy of Court having him killed. So we were all fucked up being teens not knowing a damn thing what was true. No internet so that sucked. Word of mouth and MTV was like the only thing other than actually news channels to get the scoop. To this day i can only imagine what kind of art Kurt what have brought to us all if he was still here with us. 🤘
A bit like Jesus, Kurt was here for a short time not a long time, but what he left behind..his words, either in his lyrics or in his interviews was wisdom to last for generations to come for a very, very long time. If you listen to him properly that is. Definitely one of a kind.
Kurt would be so far left wing. He would be like dave, forcing everyone in the band and concert goers to get the EXTREMELY dangerous covid "vax". He was an extremist with being a lefty...he would likely be calling for everyone right of him to be canceled.
@@virginiaviola5097 Sure, saying that some girl (courtney) is the best fuck in the world on TV, threatening to kill a reporter for publishing truths and going to the house of a slow-witted girl to have sex with her, are all great examples of wisdom and virtues...smh. Grow up, please
I recently got out of a relationship with a person who was a narcissist. The way those type of people can manipulate you and use you, and control you, and break down your identity is something that you can’t understand until you’ve seen it first hand. They basically brainwash you, and because you love them and you think they love you, you find yourself forgiving their bad behaviors. I think that I can imagine what Kurt experienced in his relationship with Courtney; it was probably similar to what I went through.
Funny because KC called himself a narcissist... Edit: AHAHAHA you're such a coward! Go ahead delete this comment too! Have a happy life in your eco chamber!!!
@@Elevenbravo_ABN From here it looks like you just used that word to attack CL and compare yourself to KC!...smh Cheap and bold! Anyway, I was just quoting KC! He called himself that! He didn't "often throw that word around", like you are implying with the intent of defending him! In fact, name me an artist/musician who is not narcissistic, to some extent? And guess what? KC also have "personality disorder"! The man was a walking contradiction! You people are always finding lame excuses. You deny seeing the truth and just want to attack CL from all angles. If KC were alive, he would be disgusted by how his so-called fans treat his wife. Edit: And you’re a perfect example of why many KC fans are fanatics, ignorant and hipocrits. And " under the age of 30"? Been there, done that! I bet I'm older than you, child.
Wow!! I’ve watched several documentaries on Kurt and there was still new info I learned in this that I had no idea. Excellent job!!!! Be proud for putting together such a quality product.
Kurt was absolutely spot on about the GI doctors. I’ve been struggling with stomach pains since getting out of the Navy in 2015 and no medicines or therapy has done any good other than spending literally every cent I can manage on eating the freshest and closest to natural you can achieve in a consumers paradise.
It is not your stomach. Were you ever a runner? If so, it is atrophy of the inner thigh muscles. This causes hip pain which manifests as stomach pain. They thought my husband had stomach issues for years but he only had to do physical therapy bc somehow being a runner/biker caused this atrophy.
Your documentaries are very insightful and well produced. Thank you for the great content! Grunge is my go to music to listen too and I wish it stuck around a little longer.
I wish more rockstars / famous people had Kurt’s mentality . One of a kind / humble human. Did t really care about money or society’s demands / norms !! Down to earth . 🤘🏻Thank you Ripper !
Sure... That's why he signed Nirvana to major worlwide label for a 7 record contract. That's why he wanted Nirvana to be the biggest band in the world. That's why he changed his percentage to 75%, leaving the 25% for Dave and Krist to split. That's why he didn't like when In Utero was selling less than other bands, like Pearl Jam. You people live in la la land
Not that it matters to anyone but I'll share with you a short story concerning the death of our beloved Kurt. Back in 1995 when I was 18 years old I visited an old man who I new from a couple of years ago and to this day Ι still hold dear in my heart. He was a gifted person able to see things and communicate. Keep in mind that this is the summer of 1995, there is no internet to the extend that we know it today, moreover in Greece where I live in, so information concerning the Cobain case was none or scarce to say the least. So, there I am talking with him and due to a personal problem of mine he offered to help me get through it. Skipping the how and all personal details, we reach to a point where I'm telling him about Kurt and how I admired his music. It was not unusual, every time we where talking, for him to stand in silence and gaze at nothing, giving away that he was seeing things concerning the subject I would bring to the table each day. So, I go on finishing my brief rant about my admiration with his suicide and he's still looking at nothing. I wait in silence too for about half a minute until he snaps out of it and says to me "you know, some of those famous people are being killed by relatives in order to get their money" and he goes on giving me an example of a famous pop star I think Boy George (he described him to me) who was hospitalised at some point in his life and a close relative of his tried to kill him. At that point, one thing struck me from that conversation, how the hell does he know Boy George? This is an old man from some forgotten village of Greece only listening to traditional folk music... it is more than a decade later that his phrase "you know, some of those famous people are being killed by relatives in order to get their money" that actually made sense. This man is now long gone... I wish he was still around. Have a great day!
Correction: at 33:40 - Courtney was NOT in "rehab" in L.A. She was holed up (NPI) in an LA hotel suite, calling the cops posing as Kurt's Mom, and making sure she got arrested for a bag of fake drugs. See: her alibi.
Sources please? Pretty please? Where are you drawing this information from? I'm not accusing you of lying I'm genuinely curious where was the original source of these things you just said. I searched "Courtney Love's alibi" and other similar phrases and I'm not getting very far.
She(CL) leaves backpack at rosemary's n Rosemary the finds practice sheet and reveals to Tom the backpack contents and that CL probably was responsible for Kurt's death and she can't believe she's getting away with it
@@jackelewish1568Tom Grant documented it all on tape with Ben plugman, rosemary Carroll confirmed some of it and also many media articles show this to be true
One thing I've always wondered is if Kurt ever paid Tracey back or somehow did something for her once he was a millionaire. She and Kurt were together for like 5 years, before fame-but not before Nirvana. Tracey is the only one of the two who paid their bills. And she did it alone, for years and years. Kurt even wrote about it more than once, how crummy he feels about her working all day while he sits at home in their apartment playing guitar. He broke up with her very close to Nevermind coming out. It would be so nice to know that he bought her a house or something at least. I haven't tapped into what's going on during recent years but I know for many, many years she never sold stories and never used his name and their connect for personal enrichment. I don't think she even sold his stuff. I think she was just a really good person who really loved Kurt. She was too good for him, which he's acknowledged. I really hope he took care of her in some way but he really wouldn't have had much time to do that before dying in 94. If he didn't do it in those couple of years between their relationship and his death then I doubt she'd ever see anything from Courtney. Courtney wanted to portray herself as having ownership of Kurt in all ways. They were only in a relationship/married for not even two years. Maybe Frances took care of Tracey when she turned 18 if Kurt didn't.
He was a user and a flagrabt social climber. He cheated on Tracey with Gabby and he became obsessed with Gabby bc she fit his snobby rock rock "look" She didn't reciprocate feelings, and eventually he moved on to Courtney. He didn't give Tracey Dick lol
this is an excellent video man. I've seen EVERY nirvana, and kurt Cobain documentary and interview. and you've compiled it all very nicely. I'll definitely be rewatching this several times.
I was born in 90 and didn’t become a nirvana fan till I was about 13. But I relate to Kurt in a lot of his early life struggles, and addiction. I’ve watched maybe every documentary out there on him, and this is probably the best one. Thank you for putting this together so well and getting footage of these places. Kurt was so amazing and I believe that Courtney broke him. And it’s really hard to believe that she didn’t have something to do with it. That s****de note seemed really…off. Allen Wrench should be in jail. Thank you Matt Herron.
your hero was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family. if youre gullible enough to believe the laughable Allen Wrench story you belong on meds.
"Allen Wrench" is just a hoax, even tom grant says it. its interesting though, how people will believe anything. even i believed it, until i started digging deeper into the subject
I agree and living near Hollywood, I hear rumors too.. like River Phoenix & Love.. I also heard it was a record company mogul who arranged for River's demise.. Was it Cobain who finished off River due to an affair w/ Courtney? Was Courtney dishing payback to Kurt for his involvement? Questions..
Excellent work! Courtney has always been sus AF. She really tried to separate him from all of his friends. I was so disgusted when she read the "suicide" note on MTV. That moment did not sit well with me. Then to learn of all the terrible stuff she has put Frances through. Such a sad story. RIP Kurt. Prayers for Frances!
I agree, the documentary is good. As for them, I think there's so many things only known to them. We only know what they choose to tell, it was a very tragic event for everyone, especially for those who were his family and friends.
I was 24 when this happened, and I remember turning to my friends and said, "she did it! I can't believe she really did it!" I've never had a doubt in my mind that the official story is bull$hit. She knew he was going to leave her. She knew she'd lose access to the money. Her jealousy wouldn't allow her to just let him go. Kurt was a complex man, yes, but he wasn't the tortured soul the media tried to make him out to be. He loved his daughter. He wanted to get out of the circus that is the music industrial machine. As an artist, he was looking to change his path. There was zero chance that, if he even took that massive dose of H, he would have been able to lift the shotgun, much less pull the trigger. It would have been physically impossible. The heroin would have put him immediately on the nod, and likely flat out unconscious. The shotgun shell was found on the wrong side of his body, by the way. Also, no junkie that shoots that much is able to, or has the cognitive ability to neatly put their kit back together. Everything about Kurt's death, the circumstances leading up to it, even the police reports, are incorrect. Many mistakes were made by law enforcement, whether on purpose or through negligence. No one will ever convince me that Kurt wasn't murdered, and I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that CL was 100% involved. RIP Kurt. As much as you hated your fame, the legacy you left us, your music will always be part of an entire Generation. X
That's correct, he was ready to live happy, she is a monster who lied through fake tears...I was so disgusted when she read the note and each time I've seen her same gut punch reaction. So sad he's gone
I remember when Kurt died, I was distraught, in a very intense way, which is not like me at all. I really liked Nirvana, but had never sobbed at a musician’s death before. I was barely pregnant with my only child, and my husband thought it was hormones. On April 5, 1999, when our daughter was 4 & 1/2, my husband suicided. The song we played at his memorial, was a fav of ours, The Beatles, ‘In My Life’. In later years I heard some tidbit about Kurt and that song, but I don’t recall it at this moment. I’ve always wished my daughter and Kurt and Courtney’s girl could meet. They have more in common than I’ve written. I am so happy that Frances(sp?) Bean was raised by her aunt and grandmother. As a widow who has never remarried, because Mark was my soulmate, I have tried to find compassion for Courtney, but she emanates intense anger, and comes across as a different class of person than Kurt was. I don’t know what really happened, and I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure, but the two gems Kurt left behind were his music, and his lovely daughter, who seems to be more like her dad, and nothing like her mother. Sorry for the ramble. Death anniversaries are around the corner, and no matter how many years, it is very hard and very lonely sometimes.
Another banger and well worth waiting for. Tastefully done compared to some I seen and really captures the spirit of the time. I'm sure there's a fair few that watch this of my age (I was 16 back then) will get the same nostalgia vibes too. No matter how Kurt met his end, his spirit and legacy will always live on. I now have a teenage Son of my own that's a Nirvana fan nearly 30 years on 🙏☮️❤️
@@HorganBlatt yeah that’s why she literally just settled out of court this year for murder for hire plot on her own daughters husband🤦🏻♀️ what more information do you need google it
this is a great documentary but some of those text slides gotta move a lil quicker there were a few points where i was scrubbing to skip to the next bit of text. but this is an incredible documentary, fantastic work, friend
Great documentary. Been following and researching this story for years. I was 16 when Kurt died and enthralled with the grunge scene. it was hard since he really how to relate with us Gen Xers. I think I’ve seen every interview he’s ever done that’s been available to the public as well as every concert. I watch all the interviews dealing with this case and your documentary is laid out nicely. Just wish more people from his past would talk!! His mother, Wendy, certainly won’t talk and his sister won’t either.. What about his ex girlfriend, Tracy?? What about his other siblings??? The ONLY other family member to speak about his death was his grandpa and he’s gone now… i feel like their is SOMETHING going on that has caused everyone to stay quiet… why the hell wont they open this thing back up??? Well, I believe, MANY people were paid off and/or are scared.., there’s SO much… now I’m getting worked up lol… anyway, great job and thank you 😎
" i feel like their is SOMETHING going on" Really? Lets just ignore the FACT that this was almost 30 years ago and people already said everything about him, what more can you want?? You people are relentless!! Smh How about this: you have a son, a brother, a father, a cousin, a nephew, a boyfriend that killed himself. Ofc, you remember him for the rest of your life. Then, there are literally millions of people around the world talking and posting bs everyday like they knew your son, brother, father, cousin, nephew, boyfriend in person and better than you. Millions of people talking shit about you and your family and how bad you were to him, because they think so. How willing are you to talk about it (again and again), just to satisfy the morbid curiosity of some stupid new fans? How willing are you to open your wounds (again and again), to ruin your grief and the memory of your loved one, just because some strangers on the other side of the world want to know the color of the socks he wore on Mondays?
@@andrepereira744Thanks for having a brain and empathy. It’s fucking heartbreaking losing a member to suicide and there are so many feelings involved. It blows my mind how people treat his death like some fun mystery puzzle. That still to this day the same shit is being said and it’s so childish and disrespectful. Depression and drug addiction is no joke. Kurt suffered terribly. Let the man and his friends and family rest.
@@phoenixgirl70 No mate, thank you. Nirvana/Kurt became a joke because of these people and narratives. Over the years, seeing the amount of false and/or futile information that continues to appear is embarrassing to say the least.
I've heard two versions of turning down the Lollapalooza money. One is that she advised Kurt (pricelessly) that the Pumpkins were going to receive over 10 million if Kurt didn't do the tour, which would have been infuriating given the fact that she likely was sleeping with Billy Corgan while he was in Europe. This clip claims Courtney said she would gladly take his place, but didn't mention Corgan. That was about a month before he was found dead, so the sobbing at the funeral about how he should have stopped being a rock star (or waited until he was 40 to end it) was for show. Too bad that succubus came into his life and drained him, and likely had something to do with his "incident" that took his life. If he had only gotten the divorce he was planning and gotten out alive, he would probably still be around and could have lived life however he wanted to, and found a better woman. I've seen multiple docs on this and the truth will come out eventually, probably once a few of the people involved are gone. The recordings at the beginning of Kurt talking about his childhood were a good find!
@@dianam9028 no there is not. no divorce attorneys ever contacted, Kurt had just attended rehab at her request and he was still wearing his wedding ring at the time of his death.
There is a recording of Courtney saying he was leaving her and she said she didn't want a divorce. Someone could have put his wedding ring back on his finger when he died
Used to hang out with Courtney's dad in San Francisco back in the 90s, in cafe treese in north Beach, anyway he would tell me about the horrible things she had done to him to family to friends and even to strangers. He feared her, honestly feared his own daughter. Of course that's just the opinions and stories from her own father... so take it as you want. But she was a scary bone to pick to be sure.
Most respectful special video i have seen in long while, total inspiration and if not reflexion in my own Life you don't have to be famous.. just love what you do and somehow impact you community in positive way. Definite should be proud of this production.Thank you and stay Alive- love this....
Courtney reading his suicide note while repeatedly calling him an arsehole is sickening. I get she was grieving but that's really disturbing how nasty she can be to the father of her child after he's just blown his brains out. 😕
I usually never write reviews. But here’s I am, writing about Nirvana. Kurt’s voice is everything . ❤️ For the first part: I feel lucky to have loving parents; I’m so grateful for them 👨👩👧 . I feel emotional and happy that Kurt found his friend that loved him for what he is. And the coolest part: something in the way under bridge - I wish I’d never be there and be there for him as well laying with him there to just tell him you’ve a lot to live for. 🫶🏼😭 Love how they arrived at the name “Nirvana” That rainstorm footage and them jamming after is the cutest 💕 Seattle, Washington 🤍🖤 But, I do NOT believe or encourage about the usage of drugs in anyway. I believe strongly that people do have “PhD” for a reason and not just as a qualification & not him saying that doctors saying or ‘just pretending and prescribing drugs’ and you can call it a total scam or whatever. When he says small things like………(Continued in part 2)
If she was berating him this bad after his death I can only imagine what it was like when he was alive. He was incredibly depressed and she would just bash him for it.
Man, I wanna say something like 5-6 months before he died I saw them at the Michigan State Fair colosseum oct 93...I was 20. I'm 50 now and I still miss him ...
This is such a great & well put together vid. Ive never believed that Kurt took his own life, not to leave Frances on her own. Not after what happened to him as a child. More to this than meets the eye most def. Rip Kurt.
I understand where you’re coming from, but there’s no way that Kurt didn’t kill himself. In this whole video from his childhood, two days before his death everything just gets so much worse, and he become so much more depressed. when you say ‘ he wouldn’t kill himself because he loved Francis.‘ he did kill himself because he loves Francis. That’s how suicide works. He thought that Francis’s life would be better without him. That’s what he said in his letter. suicide tricks. Your mind into thinking that everyone’s life would be better without you + effects of drugs
@@llnnfrshk You need to do more research. There was no suicide note. It was a letter to Courtney about leaving music. The last few lines were forged by Courtney. They even found the practice sheet in her purse. Impossible for Kurt to have committed suicide. Watch the Soaked In Bleach documentary.
100% agree theirs absolutely no way he pulled the trigger to that gun the fact that the H in his system was over 3x what an average addict would do and then to top it off he had just gotten out of rehab theirs absolutely no way he could have even sat up imo let alone sit up hold the gun upside-down ND then pull the trigger at the same time no way imo
@@babayaga1203 What nonsense? That is pretty obviously what the note is talking about. Anyone can read it. And the literal practice sheet Courtney used is in Tom Grant's possesion, given to him by Rosemary Carol after Courtney left her bag at Carol's house. And Kurt wouldn't have been able o do anything except collapse onto the floor with the amount of heroin they said was in his blood. So yaeh, impossible for him to have committed suicide.
Being a self appointed expert myself on everything Nirvana i thought there was nothing new I would ever see on Kurt . But some of this interview and video footage you have here is new to me in 2023. Amazing
Best Kurt Cobain Documentary I’ve seen & I’ve watched every one… his music & his death fill parts of my heart always & 4ever! 🥹❤ New footage never seen before & great job editing! Thank you! 💞
Just her reading of the note is so suspicious. Trying to set expectations like “it’s more like a letter to the editor” … declaring “I don’t know what happened” … and then the weird, almost admission like “it was going to happen but it could have happened when he was 40.” She wanted him to be Sid Vicious. She wanted him to die a legend. And from all of the information out there, it seems like she was going to make sure it happened, one way or another.
you clowns think everything is suspicious. what is so suspcious about reading a note? Kurt was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family.
yeah she literally thought of herself as Nancy she wanted to play her in that movie from the 80s she called the director or something begging for the role but they'd already found an actress so she ended up playing one of her friends
My ex idolizes Kurt so much to the point that I believe, he wants to feel what he felt. He wanted to be just like him. He was in a band that played cover songs from the 90’s alternate era but never went anywhere. He would always talk about Kurt and knew everything about him. That was years ago while he was in highschool. For context, he is now 40. He didn’t get on drugs until his late 20’s. He was and probably is still obsessed with the 27 club. We have two kids together and we haven’t seen or heard from him going on 6 years. I left him after years of chances (we were together for 15 years since we were 16 & 17). I know he’s still alive as we live in the same county and I keep in touch with his sister. It’s just sad all around.
10:58 I can say after having gone to many shows in that venue in Iowa City, and finally getting to play there this summer after a decade of attempting to book a show there on short notice to fill in for a band that dropped out, everyone STILL talks about Nirvana's show there. Kurt left quite an impression. It's the only place between Chicago and Kansas city that gets much culture in this stretch of the midwest.
This was incredibly done. Thank you for this. Not only do you really know your stuff but you looked into the truth. That is so appreciated. I know now in the day of the internet people understand more often that he did not commit suicide but I remember that not always being the case. It always irked me to hear professionals say "he killed himself" All of this was so well done and I cannot thank you enough for it. You're great!
I remember expecting it, our group of friends, I was 14, my friends Dad came by to pick him up and said "He finally did it". We all knew what he meant, whether someone took advantage of the expectation to bump him off with few to question it, perhaps. But it seemed like it was inevitable. My friends dad was a big independent music head, had subscriptions to a whole bunch of indie labels to receive their albums and had introduced us to Nirvana when we were 9, he knew a bunch if now legendary musicians in the 70s and 80s, these guys are gonna do something, then he wont be around long, you wait. He was right, maybe someone took advantage of that expectation.
in my humble opinion that's exactly what someone did. a dumb bitch? yes. an intelligent bitch? also yes. i could be wrong. I've been wrong thousands upon thousands of times, maybe.. lolol
Hearing Kurt talk here, especially at the beginning, makes me think of issues that people with BPD have, and how they react to childhood trauma, issues with loved ones, and arguments. This has made it easier to see the personality behind a tortured creative mind.
and people with Borderline Personality Disorder have a much higher suicide rate than those who do not have it, and are far more prone to use addictive substances.
I`m no doc. but I have known a few bi-polar people and it is not even noticeable in some, maybe cuz of meds, but a few were really hard to deal with day to day. Usually the phases would last for weeks, high to low. Sort of manic to despair. I think it must be like manic depression.
@@mistressofstones yes , I hear you and think yopu are spot on correct. Hell, I feel depressed alot but I refuse to give in to the "f#@$ it`s, ya know?
I never liked Nirvana's music but still this is a tragedy of epic proportions. Regardless how I feel about the person or their music, it's a tragedy for such a young life to end. It didn't have to be that way. One of my business associate's family members gave me the suspicion that he would commit suicide. I reported it to my office. They made light of it. Then 2 weeks later I had to come off the case for my safety and the very next day a coworker confided to me that he was indeed planning suicide. Never ignore your intuition!
Courtney definitely had her hands all in Kurt’s death. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. There’s too much evidence that’s pointing straight to her. Not to mention, she attempted the same crap on her ex son in law over Kurt’s freaking guitar that was given to him by Frances. I’m not sure what even happened with that case or if it’s even went to trial yet or not. But I find it pretty ironic… dude would be dead if it weren’t for his friend showing up. American Spy Fox’s channel has sooooo many videos with legitimate information. Kurt deserves justice and Courtney deserve prison.
American spy fox is a hoax. A KC wannabe that serves his personal opinions and assumptions like facts! His been making profit with KC death for way too long, thanks to gulable people like yourself! Isaiah Silva [Frances' ex] was another KC wannabe, who started dating Frances when she was underage! He's another leech, who wanted that guitar so much that he sold it soon after. The “poor” guy now has a pension of 100 thousand per month because of a 2-year marriage, plus the 6 million from the sale of the guitar. Oh and btw, Frances was on the side of her mother on this, as she claimed she never gave him the guitar as a wedding gift. Start thinking for yourself instead of eating all the crap the ASF says.
ASF is a hoax! A KC wannabe that serves his personal opinions and assumptions as facts. He has been profiting from KC's work and death for too long, thanks to gullible people like you. He's a leech. And Isaiah Silva [Frances' ex], who, btw, started dating Frances when she was underage, is another leech. He was also a KC wannabe, who wanted that guitar so badly that he sold it soon after. Now the poor guy has to live on a pension of 100 thousand a month, because he was married to Frances for 2 years. Plus, another 6 million from that guitar sale. Poor guy..smh. Frances was with her mother on this matter, as she maintained that the guitar was never a gift for him. Stop eating everything ASF serves and start thinking and researching information for yourself.
I will continue to post this!! ASF is a hoax! An KC wannabe who presents his personal assumptions and opinions as real facts! He has been making money off of KC's story and death for too long, thanks to gulable people like you! He's a leech. And Isaiah Silva [Frances ex] is another leech! He was also a KC wannabe, that started dating Frances when she was underage, btw! He wanted that guitar so much that he sold right after. Now, the poor guy have to live with a pension of 100k per month, because he was married to Frances for 2 very very long years. Plus, the 6 milions from the guitar sale! Poor guy...smh. Btw, Frances was with her mother, regarding this as she claimed that guitar was never a gift to him. Stop eating and regurgating all the things ASF say, and start thinking and reserching info for yourself.
I have done a lot of research into the matter, watched the Soaked In Bleach documentary as well too. But I never heard of this with Courtney's son in law?? Very interesting. I will have to look into it.
4:56 he’s so right about everyone of our generation thinking they would die before 25 years old. We all thought that. It messes you up. You throw away investing in yourself and your future. Sad. Whole generations.
Krist was a good friend and bro to Kurt seeing Courtney for what she was-an opportunist that saw Kurt's rising star and abandoned Billy Corgan without even ending the relationship. (Going back to him to produce an album after Kurt's death.) Regardless of what exactly happened I think Kurt was clearly making motions for a divorce after the joy of Francis' birth wore off. I still think Kurt we were robbed of some potentially fantastic music had Kurt and Kristen Pfaff got together. I think they both would have complimented the other and Kurt may very well have found the type of love he desperately sought his entire, tragically short life. He wanted to be a rock star yet when he got it in spades he realized it's all an illusion of fake corporate rock where profit, not creativity is the driving force and he felt horrible for 'selling out'.
As a heroine user, it is possible to function and harm yourself with a weapon when on extreme amounts. Sometimes a man’s will to die is stronger than the drugs. Be safe.
This is the best video I've ever watched online. The information is given out in a good way. I absolutely enjoyed watching this and learning from it. I'll take some time to look into all of this myself.
Yeah I watched the Kurt and Courtney as well as the Soaked in Bleach documentaries and was convinced that Courtney was some how involved with Kurt's death. And after watching your documentary on Cobain I am even more convinced that he didn't commit suicide. Also in the Soaked in Bleach documentary they interviewed Dr. Cyril Wecht a highly respected forensic pathologist and he says that Cobain had enough heroin in his system would have been enough to kill 3-4 people. I remember when Nirvana was inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame they booed the living hell out of Courtney. The Kurt and Courtney documentary was so rememberable because of Courtney trying to put a stop to it on top of the El Duce interview. I also didn't know that Kris didn't attend Kurt's wedding that's interesting.
Soaked in Bleach is an error filled work of fiction that makes numerous false claims and been trashed even by the people who appear in the film. Cyril Wecht is a crackpot who believes in literally every conspiracy theory out there including ones involving space aliens. 225mg is hardly enough to end the life of one addict let alone 4.
Tom Grant claims BS. Isn't it interesting that all of these alternative theories about his death all originate from his website and his interviews? The guy made a career out of this stuff. About the heroin; that dose might kill 3 to 4 NON-users. Kurt was at that point a heavy user, and as such, had build up a high tolerance-level. So this 'evidence' means nothing. That goes for a lot of Tom Grant's claims
@@raymondhartmeijer9300The fact he was an addict is so apparent that when they say he had enough in his system to incapacitate him I would assume they meant on top of his tolerance. You just dont build an endless tolerance to a drug.
It's hard to remember anything until I was 7-years old, but I had a perfect childhood and was encouraged to be artistic. Then my parents divorced so I threw cans at police cars. My only friend in school was gay, and my 1st band was called Fecal Matter. My Dad won custody so he could abandon me until I became famous.
Thanks for putting this altogether, mate! I've read Kurt's suicidal letter a couple of times but never actually heard Courtney reciting it at his funeral. Til now. It's mindboggling she says " then don't be a f****** rockstar you a*****, when she cursed at him for not wanting to do Lolapalooza because he was losing money?! I mean...
From all I've seen and read about the death of Kurt Cobain I can honestly say that I have no doubt in my mind that Courtney Love was responsible for his early demise.
I remember being in grade 8 and learning he shot himself and I was a mess. My whole class thought I was crazy mourning Kurt. I felt it in my bones. Was my first loss of life of anyone I knew.
I knew El Duce... I was partying with him drinking Tequila on New Years Eve 94/95 outside of Casbah Studio in the parking lot of the industrial strip where the studios were... He told me the same exact story after I told him that Kurt is/was my cousin. El Duce was a strange individual, a talented musician and performer (The Mentors)but was no more weird to me than any of the other colorful characters that hung around DVP Drum and Casbah Studio.... when he told me all this I really didn't believe him because we were both pretty lit... We were about 50 feet away from the railroad tracks that run through Fullerton parallel to Commonwealth Ave about a 1/4 mile from the Hunt Wesson plant... I still remember the stench of Worstershire Sauce that they bottled there and the odor was always in the air.. That night, New Years Eve, El Duce got pissed off at me for not believing what he told me and threw the mostly drank bottle of tequila at the train that came rumbling past and we went back inside the studio. He told me off in a tirade that was filled with the f word lol. Ironically that area of the train tracks are the same place that he laid down on the tracks and was run over by the train. Was it an accident by a drunk kinda weird guy who would lay on the tracks as a joke? Maybe. Because he was like that... a little crazy. Or did he do it because of his knowledge of Kurt's death? Or did he get drunk/high with someone while hanging out on the tracks and then dragged onto the tracks while he was passed out? Duce was a talented musician... I saw him play live in the rehearsal studio and also saw him play his Moog Synthesizer... just jamming on it , switching patches and having fun. I had wanted one since they were invented and that was the first time I had seen one up close and how they worked. I was enthralled lol. Anyway when Duce and I were talking that New Years Eve, I asked him if HE did it (offed Kurt) and he just gave me a weird sideways look and didn't answer. No one will ever know the truth about Kurt or El Duce.
Very good video. Put together nicely. I knew most this info but I like how you put it together. I was like 18 when Kurt Cobain died and it was pretty hard. I felt like he was one of us. Being a punk rock skateboarder since I was in like 5 grade we witnessed Nirvanas rise. An exciting time in music. I actually went to his house in 97 and I shit you not the realtor was standing in the driveway and the girl I was with claimed to know Kurt and Courtney and she walked straight up to the dude and asked where Courtney was. He said I'm selling this house for her. Pretty crazy. Then I chumped a few dollars from these rich couple who had their daughter in the car , she wanted to know where Kurt Cobains house he lived in was. I said I'll tell you for a few bucks. Then I pointed y'all right in front of it. I was all proud of myself, at the time I was hopping trains around and homeless. But the girl I was with was like you idiot you should have gotten at least 20 bucks haha.
This is timed perfectly alongside my severe seasonal depression! This time last year I coped via a Kurt obsession, looks like i'm doing the same this year!
Severe? You're commenting cogently online about the mental state you claim and how you supposedly coped with it last year. Sorry hun, but that's not severe. It may be more than the SAD that everyone in the northern hemisphere feels at this time of year, but it's not severe. You're only just in your mid-twenties, and theres no need to make a persona out of the winter blues. Take some B12 and choose to try on a different persona today.
@@michaelc3977 Sorry, who the fuck are you? 🤣 Firstly, I said severe seasonal depression, that is SAD. SAD is seasonal depression. So what's your point? Secondly, I spent my teenage years and early twenties in and out of psychiatric facilities because my depression was so severe. This time last year was one of the worst depressive episodes I have ever had, and yes, this year I am alive and im writing. Though still do have seasonal depression. I didn't choose to have it, all I can do is find my own ways to deal with it until spring comes around again. Now, depression itself does not impact the function of one's skills. You can be depressed and still write or type. You can be depressed and still work. You can be depressed and still smile. So why depression would have an impact on my ability to type in a RUclips comment section is unbeknownst to me. Of course depression impacts our executive functioning skills and our motivation for daily tasks/living, but that is entirely different than the baseline skill of being able to type words. I have a BCS in psychology along with it being my main special interest. I am aware of what depression is and is not. I think maybe you should look into it a little more before you spew your very limited and contrived opinion. Also, you've never met me. You read a 2 sentence RUclips comment by a young girls seasonal depression and Kurt Cobain obsession and you thought 'let me vomit my negative opinion towards her and bring her down a peg'. Thus, sir, indicating to me that you have many unaddressed issues with yourself+the world around you. You typed that comment as if you are the only person in the world who's ever been depressed, and it screams 'no one cares about me, so I'm going to be mean to other people'. Yeah I am only in my mid twenties, and honestly it's been a tough fucking ride, but somehow I'm thankful. Thankful that I'm not a bitter, repressed, resentful old cunt scowering for negativity on the internet. May you always get exactly what you deserve in this life ⭐
If he hadn’t taken himself out, we might not have anymore Nirvana records, but I imagine Kurt would have either done some solo stuff or really hunkered down and produced a bunch of art which would also have been cool.
I think he would've stepped away and had a quiet life maybe producing, I think he would be proud of Grohl. Kurt was already having memory issues with unplugged that's why they brought in Pat Smear, he was developing drug brain like Ozzy Osborne. If he was still alvie I think he would have many health issues.
I think there is reason enough to believe Nirvana would have stopped in 1994. Kurt had started to hate touring the amount they had to for In Utero. He had said no to a number of touring opportunities for the band earlier. Most likely he wanted to continue in the Unplugged vein, and work with Michael Stipe. Kurt was a massive REM-fan, and occasionally perform live on his own terms
wow dude. this is probably the most respectful well-made documentary about kurt and nirvana that i’ve ever seen. i’m an addict in recovery and as odd as it sounds, the kurt cobain story has always been comforting to me. addicts can also be good and genuine people.
Yes!!! Absolutely feel this comment!
Congratulations on recovering~ you’re very courageous and admirable to take the steps to fight this disease. Coming from a family filled and fueled by addiction I know how harmful it is and how much good it destroys. But there is hope & wish you so much success. You are a good person~ most addicts are. They fill emotional needs with substances~ numbing pain, abuse, feeling unwanted, unloved & many other things no one should ever have to feel. Especially little children and especially when the disease lives on through them. It can be a vicious cycle… often a terribly lonely one.
And for anyone who doesn’t believe addiction is a disease: I’m glad you were blessed and fortunate enough to be sheltered from these things. And I pray your ignorance continues and you never suffer from the horrors that this disease causes.
Kurt was such a fragile soul who hated the spotlight and his major mental illness only added to his misery. People expected him to be a god, which he hated.
I totally understand why his story would comfort others. To know someone else knows exactly how you feel makes one feel less lonely, more normal, understood, In some cases.
It hurt my soul knowing what Kurt went through during their biggest successes. He hated the limelight while Courtney loved it. Many fans of Nirvana, Soundgarden, AIC, etc, were people these guys detested. Not the type of people they were naturally drawn to & they didn’t like that they were fans.
Seeing Kury’s emotional state on stage sometimes actually made me cry. He looked like a terrified, miserable little boy.
Please keep fighting. You matter so much, you can change the world for some people, you CAN change the course of this horrible disease for YOU and the people who love you.❤️
Take care, saying prayers for your success, wishing you only good things 💜
Ps~ o hate to sound corny but I do believe everything I said. I’ve lived with so much addiction in my life and they were the salt of the earth~ wonderful inspiring people who loved the very relationships they destroyed because they couldn’t fight their demons. It breaks my heart to this very day~ 30 years later.
I love your comment man, sending you a big hug and good vibes
Have you watched Montage of Heck? Just started this one, but MoH is almost like an autobiography
Didn't realise, he was on the horse, so far back.?..
I’m genuinely impressed. As a three-decade Nirvana fan, I think you did an amazing job putting this together. The old footage of the band in their candid moments is pure gold.
I was much too young to really follow it all. I just liked the band, never watched TV much at all so I was not in the loop. Now I am highly interested however, pretty sure this guy saved a lot of lives, but like Chester, he couldn't save himself.
guess what dude nobody cares what you think your opinion is worthless
No matter what happened, we can all agree he was better off without her
Shes still alive retard
Your right. But I hate that people pour all this negativity on her. Kurt Cobain loved her and no matter what happened, COURTNEY LOVE DID NOT PULL THE TRIGGER. It’s ridiculous to think she killed him. Though I do agree with you, she did have an impact on what would happen.
@@gigafish-chad delusion
@@gigafish-chad no she paid one of her jailbird fboiz to do it .
She's the one who tried to get him into rehab than she also checked herself into rehab.
But I guess people will apply conjecture and go on a Yoko Ono witch hunt for the love of salacious drama.
I wasn’t even alive for the 90s but regardless this is one of the few celebrity deaths that hits me quite hard, and I wasn’t even around for it. The more I learn about Kurt, the more I empathize with him and also relate to him in certain aspects. It makes me very sad that we lost such a talented and genuine person so young.
Holy shit I feel like an old man now. The 90`s? The first few tears, 90-94 were okay, but later on it was just non-stop work work work. I guess I should be happy that I worked so much overtime and beefed up my 401K, and spent very little money because I was too busy working!!!! The 80`s was my decade. Holy shit was it a wild time to be a teenager becoming a young man. It was a 10 yr. party.
You mustbe genz, all ego lol. No it doesn't
@@annwethenorth generation wars are childish….it’s time to grow up.
@@annwethenorth Are you talking about my comment? I would be called Gen. Z if I payed or put any stock in generational "tags", but I do not. Ego? Saying that all I did was rack up tons of overtime during the 90`s is just a fact, no more , no less. Saying the 80`s were my decade is true because I was 13 in 1980 and 23 in 1990. That is going from puberty to manhood, and it is the years one finds their views and tastes , and you become who you are in every way. Ego? There is nothing egotistical in my comment. So, if it is me you are speaking(actually insulting) to, I find it pretty sad. YOU are the one dragging that huge ego around. It must get tiresome because it is huge. If it ain`t me, my apologies. Btw., what do you mean by "No, it doesn`t?" That sentence doesn`t fit anything.
Lmfao@@gib59er56literally NO ONE talking to you, your first comment was dvmb because it had NOTHING to do with OP's comment and your second comment was even crazier cause now you're tagging people and acting like they tagged you in a comment, go get your head checked old man, you're losing your mind 😂
I’m still so sad about Kurt’s death. I feel so lost. I’ll never forget the day I heard the news that he died. So many of my favorite musicians are dead now but their music will live on forever. Rest in peace Kurt you’re gone but will never be forgotten.
Same thoughts. I remember where I was and who I was with. My friend and I were watching MTV, didn't know that he had passed, then they started talking about it and we both burst into tears. It felt surreal back then. He was such an important part of our culture to us growing up back then. For a long time I could no longer listen to Nirvana afterward.
Staley... :(
@ec_collects513 Prince was 57
Chester was not 27 mate@ec_collects513
@ec_collects513yea Bennington was older too
“I tried hard to have a father but instead I had a dad. I just want you to know that I don’t hate you anymore”. Can totally hear where those lyrics came from in these tapes.
You clearly don't know the difference between a dad and a father...
@@coreym162 what is your point? I’m talking about Kurt’s lyrics.
@@coreym162god there's always these fucking cornballs that get offended by specific comments
@@solearesoulreal
@@coreym162 its serve the servants you poser
I'm only 8 minutes in and I'm completely hooked. I really like the way you're using the tapes to narrate the story and you popping in to fill any gaps. It's just great work. Kudos.
I appreciate it. Wanted to try something new with this video.
agreed
I thought it was good until the whole 'Courtney bad, Kurt the victim' started. Every sentence about Courtney is negative. Like Kurt was this perfect god and she is Hitler. Beyond ridiculous. I stopped caring.
@@CanadianHorseFacethat bitch Really Was & still IS a Faulty-ass Evil self-centered satanist undercover transgender P.O.S.!! Not saying he was perfect but wearing his heart on his sleeve (often to the point of whiney) Was kinda his main thing if you knew his music at All youd know that!!
@@rockrealmmI've not seen anything else you've done i just found you . This is a top notch production. Whatever you tried new it worked. Earned a instant sub. I look forward to the next.
Coming up on the 30th anniversary of his death, it still feels like yesterday and so surreal. I was 17 and he was my idol. I thought this was really well done and, you gave Kurt and his fans who lived through the hurt of his passing the respect they all deserve. My opinion is, Kurt was an easy target. Courtney’s career blossomed after his death and, too many shady characters are involved. This is a case that is easily solved, especially with the technology we have today and preserved evidence. Too bad that secrets and money seem more important than a life. RIP Kurt…you are still with us because we won’t forget you.
I agree. I live in Florida now but i was about 15 or so when this happened, lived in West Canada. What a tragedy this case hasnt been reopened. Interesting that the first man she offered money wws decapitated, as Kurt had tried to kill himself like that as a kid. Its symbolic. Kurt was so talented as a writer, singer. I dont think he'd left his daughter to Courtney in a world like this.
She was the worst thing that could have happened to him. He might have lived longer.
I didn’t live thru it but I found nirvana when I was 17 and only now at 18 am I going down the whole rabbit hole
Yes I agree will never forget Kurt Cobain, he was 7months younger than me,sad he died,I believe he was murdered
Same to me. But as i grew old, i m afraid about Kurt. He was a genius but also very borderline, with a lifestyle so lunar.......
The death of Kurt Cobain will forever be one of the most unfortunate and most tragic cases in music history. Murder or suicide, in the end it's all just terrible what happened.
Your documentaries are alot better than most "professionally" made ones I've seen about music. There are some pretty good ones about Kurt too, so that's saying alot.
Thank you. that means a lot.
@@rockrealmm
9:15
Makes NO sense:
"Kurt attempted his life"
@AMEER-wp2mm have to be careful with how you word things due to youtube’s algorithm
totally. this dude cares to go the places and shit. on tv they just do docs like if they were some highschool asignment
This isn't his documentary. This has been around for 20 years now
He was so fragile and Courtney just broke him in the end. It’s a true tragedy. There will never be another like him.
@@ghijbvhiigvh3940 Soaked in Bleach is a steaming load of horse manure. Kurt was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family. deal with it
the original amber heard
Some say she literally broke him. Some say nor her or Dave were too happy with breaking up the band.....
@@Andronicus87 she didn't break up the band and Kurt made all his own decisions including the one to end his life no matter how much you clowns want to blame mommy.
eery because his first album was named bleach and his life ended in bleach@@ghijbvhiigvh3940
When Kurt is talking about his parents divorcing and all of his friends parents getting divorced at the same time I can’t help but think about the book
“The 4th Turning”
Kurt even questions the way his parents generation was raised saying “something isn’t right with the way they were brought up”
It’s a super interesting book and Nirvanas music is a perfect reflection of his generation as it’s described in that book.
No matter what we can say that Courtney coming into Kurt’s life was the worst thing .
I didn’t know Kris didn’t goto the wedding because he didn’t agree with the relationship….. a true man and a good man.
Courtney definitely drive a wedge between Kurt and the band
The Yoko Ono of grunge
He didn’t seem to think so. Stop acting like you knew these people. You didn’t. People who actually knew them have said that he would have offed himself way sooner if he hadn’t met Courtney. He said the same thing in his last interview. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@dewilew2137No disrespect! He said he would have offed himself in a satirical way if he couldn’t find a cure to his stomach problem. He also said in the same interview that he was very happy in himself and there was a large amount of people that were within his inner circle involving family, friends, and his lawyer that knew him very well that said he was not suicidal. Sorry, none of us were there so anyone can have their own opinion without being insulted. Nobody knows the truth. Not even you 🎉
@@kirstymedcalf4115 He literally said he used to be much more sad and angry, and most of that is due to the fact that he didn’t have “a mate”. He said that now that he has a woman in his life, life just seems better. He said he also didn’t want a child until he met Courtney. He loved his wife, period. She changed his life for the better. Unfortunately, he suffered from bipolar disorder, and that’s what led to his fluctuations in mood. NOBODY who actually knew him thinks he was murdered. It’s a ridiculous theory made up by people who don’t know him or his circumstances. The closest people to him don’t suspect any foul play. That should be enough for you, but isn’t, because you don’t want to believe the truth. It’s pathetic as hell.
@@dewilew2137 Yes! He loved his wife and then fell out of love with his wife when he filed for a divorce. The people who knew him very very well were his Grandpa, who later gave an interview and said Kurt had told him that he'd found love with another woman, and Buzz Osborne advised him (after he admitted that CL was abusive towards him, and this was witnessed by other people) was to leave her the lot and run. The police were called to their house and Kurt was found in a closet hiding from CL because she was being particularly abusive and narcissistic towards him that night. They were a bad match for each other and in the end, she made Kurt feel miserable.
Posthumusly Courtney said 'why didn't you just quit then, stop being a rockstar.' But on the other hand, while he was still alive, she was bitching and pushing him to do Lollapalooza for the money. When she speaks with a forked tongue, which is pretty much all the time, why should anyone believe her ever? She's always covering her tracks with different stories, I think in hopes of causing lots of confusion, and because of being too high on drugs she forgets what she said previously. Truth is she was pressuring him to remain a rockstar because he was her cash cow.
This is a very good documentary in that it brings up some of inconsistancies that have lead to lingering questions that have not been fully answerd or satisfactorily explained. Some of them totally defying logic.
Well done creator!
And thank you for leaving those captions up on the screen just a little bit longer for the visually impaired, very thoughtful.
I'm with you. Knowing he was going to divorce her, would of sent her into shock. Her bank would be gone. I'd never believe a word she ever uttered (even before he died). She's far too 'clever' (and her telling the vigil to call him an asshole, just completely sums her up)
Yeah, I appreciate that the creator left the captions up longer as well. Sometimes I'm distracted by my real life and it's nice to be able to still catch what it says, plus, I like to let the words really sink in before moving on so quickly. I think that's more respectful to the subject matter at hand, especially in this case.
RIP Kurt Cobain 🌠
Well, considered the fact that KC didn't want to play there because it was too comercial and against his pseudo-punk ethos (lets just ignore for some seconds that he signed Nirvana to a major label for a 7 albuns contract and wanted to be the biggest band in the world, acording to his own words), and considered that Nirvana almost didn't play live in 92 because of his drug habit and how depressed he was with Nirvana and life, its dificult to say that having someone next to you, pushing you for doing things, was a bad thing.
@andrepereira744
He absolutely wanted adoration, got it, then became conflicted due to his own mixed up pseudo-ideology. He wasn't a musical saviour, just a guy whose band got lucky and rode the crest of a media-wave. He was well off financially, yet personally weighed down by personal demons he just couldn't shake. His partner was hardly a help in this respect
He's become a benchmark and talisman and he's earned immortality through his group and notorious ending
@@sexobscura I agree with everything, execpt the part about his partner.
I mean, I can imagine Courtney was not "roses and puppies" all the time, but 99% of times its better to have someone to share your problems, than not having.
Also, he OD several times (its well documented). I was not there, but I can bet Courtney save him "one or two times".
I have seen some Parents personally as well overreacting to a child in a restaurant misbehaving.
The over reaction by the parent can stick with you forever. I can totally relate to everything Kurt says.
So you spend the rest of your life mewling like a little baby. because Mum wouldn`t pass the salt..........pathetic.
My dad going red in the face screaming because I brought home a C in some stupid class that didn't matter
@@BigBillKelly-x2z damn bro. I can't believe you came out the other side of that alive
@@JammerAma Ok, man. Can we just drop the subject now as it still hurts.
@@BigBillKelly-x2zi hope this is a joke lol. from someone who’s experienced ACTUAL child abuse this isn’t shit except for parents doing their best and you overreacting
Hired her ex boyfriend to full time nanny is absolutely insane. no real woman would ever do such a thing. so sad
I'm not sure anyone would consider Courtney "a real woman" including Courtney.
It depends.
If I knew that my ex was a great role model and my child would be better off in his capable hands considering both parents were junkies then I'd say no problem.
Yeah what a nutcase. Never in my life would I let any one of my exs nanny my kid.
I 4got about that! 🤔
@@natahliak7691 I'm sure they Had da $ 2 Find some1 else that Had a Good Resume? Don't know y Kurt went on with it??? But I think He had His mind made Up what He was going to Do 2Himself.Even da note says U both will be better Off with Me Gone.😵
Kurt and Nirvana made the world a little more tolerable for many of us. More than the rockstar you can tell he is a beautiful soul and I hope that wherever he is he has found the serinity, passion and love that is nearly impossible to find in this world.
My life changed when Nirvana came in. For the first time in my life, I felt heard.
Its interesting he mentions gastro-intestinal issues soo much, and that being a driving cause of his heroin use, because I was in a similar situation. Gastro-intestinal issues happen to be a physical side effect of a host of untreated psychological issues. Trauma, depression, dysphoria, neurodivergency... pretty much anything that either causes you to be, or is caused by stress of being an "outsider". Its difficult for doctors to find the cause of these issues as well, because they're looking to treat the body rather than the mind.
Idk what Cobain's case was, but it is interesting to note.
Dostoevsky said that stomach diseases are caused by resentment
Absolutely. My gastrointestinal tract verifies.
So does mine. I have so much more sympathy for Kurt. 😢
As someone who was dying of Endometriosis and Sepsis, and former addict i can attest to the pain, mental anguish of being alone in the pain....ontop of living and making a living..i was too, on Oxy. After 12 years i moved to Heroin. Being clean 2 years, the pain from all the physical issues has never gone away.
Life CAN still be BETTER. With the right ppl, or even one person in support of your recovery. ....
Sadly, Kurt, with all his fame and money didnt have that. I wish that Duff had grabbed him that night before the car left the airport. Who knows if it would have changed anything.
@@ValeryenPivkoregardless of what its caused by, there is a way to find a solution. I find it rich that these ppl had an intervention on Kurt when they were all junkies themselves.
Even though I've heard this story before, this is more intense now that I'm older. Whether you're a rock star or not, addiction is hell.
It's even scarier when you've got to an age way past the age he died and you can appreciate just how young he was when he died.
27 is no age at all but he left a lasting legacy and not many of us have that privilege.
Addiction was only one aspect of the hell he was going through.
Definitely. The one thing about addiction is that it doesn’t discriminate. Rich,poor,black,white,male or female it doesn’t matter. R.I.P. Kurt 🖤🙏
@@markrosenquist8259 it also doesn't have to be illegal drugs. There's millions of people out there physically and mentally addicted to prescribed medication and the withdrawals can be just as hard to endure.
You mean Courtney’s addiction to murder?
My man. Rarely do I comment on these threads I guess you call them, or RUclips in general. this doc was done with such taste and class that even this seasoned Cobain researcher's eyes were forced open. You have a bright future behind the camera. Please bring this same passion to other events/happenings and I will certainly be there. Kudos brother. great reporting.
Still love Kurt. The world got a lot more sad when Kurt left. I still don't believe he committed suicide, but if he did I hope he is no longer fighting addiction or in pain. We miss you Kurt.
Courtney .
@@Crosshatch1212on god
But I do really hope where ever he is, he is happy and not in pain anymore
Get over it because he did.
Kurt is in hell. He did not believe in Jesus but hated him. Don't be like Kurt.
@@RetroMan-kurt went to church in his later life and said that he was fine with religion as a whole idk what ur talking abt😂
Great job putting this documentary together, better then most I've watched so far! I never realized how funny and sarcastic Kurt was.
Didn't you see him appear on stage wearing a hospital gown ?
This is the 1993 BBC interview by John savage. He copied it and makes it out to be his own creation.
Check out Nirvana on Top of the Pops... That'll have you in stitches. You can find it on RUclips. Don't quote me, but I heard the story goes something like this...Nirvana arrived at the studio and was told what song to play and that the music wasn't really going to be live to the viewers at home... Only Kurt's vocals were. Kurt and the band was so pissed off that they ran with the information that was presented and made TOTP look like fools
"Married! Buried!" Kurt said it all with 2 words.
Holy shit 🤯 good one
@@WilliamSussman "i wish i was like you, easily amused, find my nest of salt, everything's my fault, i'll take all the blame, aqua (her eye color) seafoam (tears) shame.... "
"...all apologies ❤
So true!
"I'm a liar and a thief"
Wow..interesting.
This simple but gentle & thorough Documentary?
One best ever seen on KC
i'm Kurts' age...i lived through this in real time. I saw Nirvana live 3 times (in the Texas Triangle) in 91? and then again during the US leg of Utero in 93. Two things that has alway (and still) runs through the fabric over and over for Kurt: SHAME. He not only wrote about it in several songs, but spoke about it often within interviews an in passing (from his own mouth (a/v) and written word(s). Not by someone who wasn't even around during this short period of time. Then to come from hindsight, which 99.9% of these type of uploads are loaded with errors, omissions. As for 'shame', it's propped up by reputation and perfectionism, both things that Kurt was not equipped to overcome. The turmoil is an internal conflict which a solution is needed. Thing is, a temporary solution works until it does NOT and that's the biggest fear of all. Without the tools of willingness, accurate information, a healthy perspective, another outcome is sought. With each passing year, and each subsequent post, his legacy becomes more watered down, and outliers of narratives take own a life of their own. Reality is no longer a factor, and his dignity chipped away and it's disgusting that there's literally nothing more to grasp. What maintains my peace is that: NO ONE can ever hurt him again.
rather be dead than cool. idk. seems to me like he just didn’t have many friends. and a wrecked ego. smart and sexy make people really judge you. but idk ask some people who did it
@@chixw7856 wow, you clearly have no grip on reality about how depression and abuse can make you feel.
@sabbracadabra8367 pretty sure you couldn't have changed his outcome with one discussion, that's pretty fucking full of yourself to say. Say it back and think about it again "I could have made a depressed, child abused heroin junkie with a chronic stomach problem that no doctor could properly diagnose or treat, who felt trapped by the fame that came from doing the things that he most loved in life - I could have made that guy not kill himself with a simple conversation" - yeah, no. You need a firmer grip on reality.
@sabbracadabra8367 "Hard to not blame the parents. Destroying a child's world aged 8, that's going to have a serious impact" Your comments always have UTTER BS!
People get divorced every day, and most people forget that its better a divorce than having a shitty marriage.
"he was abandoned afterwards too"
FFS, that's pathetic from all angles! He was never abandoned!!
When you say he was abandoned, he was already a teenager, rebelling against everything, including his own family. Relationships are a two-way street and according to his own words, he was very problematic with his mother and father with the intention of punishing them for their divorce. Stop portraying him as if he were a simple boy who just wanted to eat his vegetables and do his homework.
@sabbracadabra8367 Fair enough about the kid part, I agree with that, for sure.
Now about the rest, it's still nonsense bs.
You have a romantic idea of the thing, and obviously you've already read a lot press specializing in it.
"Homework and vegetables" because you, and a "few others", like to portray KC as a holy, innocent weak naive man who wouldn't hurt a fly, because you're such a die-hard fans.
The "tragic hero, who no one cared about".
You speak as if his parents had thrown him out on the street next to the trash can when he was 7 years old!
In your head, his parents only got divorced with the intention of hurting him, because they were sadists and evil people...smh
It's like I said, KC himself spoke in interviews about being a weirdo and problematic teenager by choice and his share of responsibility, for being "expelled" from various family members' homes. But he was "expelled" to another house, not to the streets.
And as we also know, sometimes it was he himself who chose to stay away from home, like when he slept in the lobby of the hospital or hotel, I don't remember exactly.
You are diehard fans and have read and watched a lot about him, but you always “choose” to ignore some of his words and actions, so as not to destroy the image of the “holy and naive man”.
I am so grateful to have grown up in the 90s. It was truly an amazing decade when it comes to music in all genres, but it is also one of the saddest ones. Of all the amazing and unique bands that came along during that era, very few of them are still standing and relevant today. Very few of the most notable singers of that era made it to 55, and many didn't even make it to 30. People like Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Bradley Nowell, Scott Weiland, Chris Cornell, Shannon Hoon, Andrew Wood, Deloris O'Riordan, Chester Bennington, and many others can be counted among the most unique and talented singers and songwriters to ever grace the stage, and all of them died at a young age. Of all the major bands of that era, only Green Day has survived to this day with their original lineup intact, and with no significant periods of inactivity. Nearly every major band from the 90s has had at least one member die, or formed as the result of a death from a previous band. I look at the carnage from that decade, and I often wonder what could have been. I wonder how different music would be today if some of these bands had survived longer.
Isn't Cornell still going
@@JimmyButthole-l9v-No...He is no longer living. I believe it was in May 2018? (Sorry if I'm incorrect about the date) He was found in his hotel room after an event, and supposedly "hung himself" from a doorknob, of all things. When the details were announced on the news about his death, the 1st thing I smelled was BS. He was happily married, and was a new dad. He had many passed issues behind him. There was no sign at all of him being depressed or substance addicted. But what does sound more likely, is that he was murdered. Murdered because, I would imagine, is that fatherhood changed him, like it does any new parent, and he and close friend Chester Bennington (Linkin Park) were organizing an event to bring awareness to child trafficking. Now if you're the type of scum bag like so many producers in the music and acting industry are, you can't have public awareness brought to a topic that exposes what your involved in, because being "ok" with forcing children or minors into sexual acts against their will, is a sickening, morally incomprehensible thing to indulge in. It doesn't take a genius to see, how someone was trying to protect themselves from exposure. That seems more likely what really happened. Especially when you consider how much we've found out about Hollyweird and famous people "selling their souls", being blackmailed, and how saturated in pedophiles the entertainment industry is. Stranger still, is how Chester Bennington was so distraught after Chris's death, just around a year later he supposedly took his own life as well.
What an evil and ugly business the music and entertainment industry is, and how dangerous it can be to become famous. It makes me wonder if there is even a single producer who isn't tangled in this evil web of blackmail, lies, and secrets. I'm sure many people had no idea what they were getting into until it was too late. It's really disturbing just how F_©ked up that is. I'd be willing to bet, once Kurt became famous, they were trying to get their tentacles on him and get him to sell out himself, but he didn't want to, and it was a price he didn't want to pay. But I bet you anything Courtney was all too willing, and angered and baffled as to why he would turn down gigs regardless of the money, and she was all too willing to prostitute herself for it, and likely jealous he became famous and she didn't.
Ever wonder how right after Kurt died, she suddenly became this new thing in Hollywood, and starred with Woody Harrelson in the movie "The people vs.Larry Flynt" with no acting experience at all? I guess it wouldn't be much of a stretch to play a drug addicted ho-bag, but it's just a bit too odd, how of all the actresses in Hollywood, why was she such a 1st choice as a relatively unknown person of interest? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, there's only one thing it can be, though I digress, as you were inquiring about Chris Cornell. I just couldn't help but connect the dots on this because now that we can see the big picture, it makes these deaths under such strange circumstances, look that much more obvious that they weren't accidental. All so some evil bastards can hide the sickening §h*t that they do, and what has been going on for a very long time.
I would imagine the elimination of certain entertainers becomes easier and easier once it has been done so many times, and they don't feel anything after a while. What a dark and empty world those people chose to live in. Most people would never find it worth giving up the peace of a clear conscience in exchange for fame, but clearly some people do. The only problem is, they're not "allowed" to change their minds without paying the ultimate price for it.
RIP- To Chris, Kurt, and all the others, who never got to see their full potential realized because of evil. It's such a rip off.
The world is too savage.... that's why I refuse to participate in it. Wasn't there a rumour that Paul Walker was about to expose some P3d0s as well right before he died?
There were 3 fucking people in Green Day, man. And you can't try to blame Pearl Jam for forming out of tragedy. And guess what, people leave bands. That happens. REM was around in the 80s but blew the fuck up in the 90s, none of them are dead, but they broke up. Then again, you're clearly a lover of the flannel generation. Plenty of other people who came before that are still making music, too. Lots of the people you mention also had drug problems out the ass.
@@allisoncolby7851 Cornell wasn't murdered. He killed himself the same day that Ian Curtis from Joy Division did, and he had mentioned them as an influence back when they first started. Cornell was on a medication that hit him hard, and he got hit with a moment of sadness and desperation and he gave in to the darkness, he might have thought of the symbolism and just gone for it.
Courtney had acted before, she was in Sid N' Nancy, and also some other movies, but clearly you don't actually know WTF you are talking about. You just want to be another person spewing conspiracy theories that mean nothing. Kurt's friends knew him, and knew the trouble he was in. Why the fuck do you think REM wrote a song about him called "Let Me In?" Stipe was trying to get Kurt to do something with him, desperately, because he could see the pain he was in. Kurt LOVED REM. That's why they bought the house next door to Peter Buck when he moved to Seattle.
Nice job with this one dude. Being a fan of Kurt and Nirvana i can honestly say this was well put together. Thanks for taking the time editing this. I remember the day it happened. Most of my friends were shocked and super sad. The following week at school sucked. We were all depressed playing Nirvana on repeat. Couple of my friends were in bands so when we were just hanging out they would jam , but heavy. Like anger heavy. Wont say who but one kid was balling his eyes out. Because at the time we thought it was an overdose then the conspiracy of Court having him killed. So we were all fucked up being teens not knowing a damn thing what was true. No internet so that sucked. Word of mouth and MTV was like the only thing other than actually news channels to get the scoop. To this day i can only imagine what kind of art Kurt what have brought to us all if he was still here with us. 🤘
A bit like Jesus, Kurt was here for a short time not a long time, but what he left behind..his words, either in his lyrics or in his interviews was wisdom to last for generations to come for a very, very long time. If you listen to him properly that is. Definitely one of a kind.
@virginiaviola5097 Definitely one of a kind.
Kurt would be so far left wing. He would be like dave, forcing everyone in the band and concert goers to get the EXTREMELY dangerous covid "vax". He was an extremist with being a lefty...he would likely be calling for everyone right of him to be canceled.
Weird comparison, Jesus is God and kurt is in hell for rejecting Jesus.@@virginiaviola5097
@@virginiaviola5097 Sure, saying that some girl (courtney) is the best fuck in the world on TV, threatening to kill a reporter for publishing truths and going to the house of a slow-witted girl to have sex with her, are all great examples of wisdom and virtues...smh.
Grow up, please
I recently got out of a relationship with a person who was a narcissist. The way those type of people can manipulate you and use you, and control you, and break down your identity is something that you can’t understand until you’ve seen it first hand.
They basically brainwash you, and because you love them and you think they love you, you find yourself forgiving their bad behaviors.
I think that I can imagine what Kurt experienced in his relationship with Courtney; it was probably similar to what I went through.
That is what I was thinking. Courtney definitely fits the mold of a narcissist .
Funny because KC called himself a narcissist...
Edit: AHAHAHA you're such a coward!
Go ahead delete this comment too!
Have a happy life in your eco chamber!!!
@@andrepereira744
People will often throw that word around. I’m using it in its psychological meaning, to describe the personality disorder.
@@Elevenbravo_ABN From here it looks like you just used that word to attack CL and compare yourself to KC!...smh
Cheap and bold!
Anyway, I was just quoting KC! He called himself that! He didn't "often throw that word around", like you are implying with the intent of defending him!
In fact, name me an artist/musician who is not narcissistic, to some extent?
And guess what? KC also have "personality disorder"! The man was a walking contradiction!
You people are always finding lame excuses. You deny seeing the truth and just want to attack CL from all angles.
If KC were alive, he would be disgusted by how his so-called fans treat his wife.
Edit: And you’re a perfect example of why many KC fans are fanatics, ignorant and hipocrits.
And " under the age of 30"?
Been there, done that! I bet I'm older than you, child.
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Wow!! I’ve watched several documentaries on Kurt and there was still new info I learned in this that I had no idea. Excellent job!!!! Be proud for putting together such a quality product.
Kurt was absolutely spot on about the GI doctors. I’ve been struggling with stomach pains since getting out of the Navy in 2015 and no medicines or therapy has done any good other than spending literally every cent I can manage on eating the freshest and closest to natural you can achieve in a consumers paradise.
Question for you in reference to your stomach pain. Is it only when you consume mammal products that you get sick ?
It is not your stomach. Were you ever a runner? If so, it is atrophy of the inner thigh muscles. This causes hip pain which manifests as stomach pain. They thought my husband had stomach issues for years but he only had to do physical therapy bc somehow being a runner/biker caused this atrophy.
try to eat your species specific diet, raw vegan 80%fruits
Do you smoke weed?
it's most likely mental go see someone not a GP
Your documentaries are very insightful and well produced. Thank you for the great content! Grunge is my go to music to listen too and I wish it stuck around a little longer.
Yes, great job on this documentary 👏 best one I watched about Kurt Cobain
Good shit, bro. Thanks for putting this together.
I wish more rockstars / famous people had Kurt’s mentality . One of a kind / humble human. Did t really care about money or society’s demands / norms !! Down to earth . 🤘🏻Thank you Ripper !
Sure... That's why he signed Nirvana to major worlwide label for a 7 record contract. That's why he wanted Nirvana to be the biggest band in the world. That's why he changed his percentage to 75%, leaving the 25% for Dave and Krist to split.
That's why he didn't like when In Utero was selling less than other bands, like Pearl Jam.
You people live in la la land
@@andrepereira744Kurt might not have killed himself, but if he came back and saw some of his fans I'm sure he wpuld.
@@blondequijote Yup
Not that it matters to anyone but I'll share with you a short story concerning the death of our beloved Kurt. Back in 1995 when I was 18 years old I visited an old man who I new from a couple of years ago and to this day Ι still hold dear in my heart. He was a gifted person able to see things and communicate. Keep in mind that this is the summer of 1995, there is no internet to the extend that we know it today, moreover in Greece where I live in, so information concerning the Cobain case was none or scarce to say the least. So, there I am talking with him and due to a personal problem of mine he offered to help me get through it. Skipping the how and all personal details, we reach to a point where I'm telling him about Kurt and how I admired his music. It was not unusual, every time we where talking, for him to stand in silence and gaze at nothing, giving away that he was seeing things concerning the subject I would bring to the table each day. So, I go on finishing my brief rant about my admiration with his suicide and he's still looking at nothing. I wait in silence too for about half a minute until he snaps out of it and says to me "you know, some of those famous people are being killed by relatives in order to get their money" and he goes on giving me an example of a famous pop star I think Boy George (he described him to me) who was hospitalised at some point in his life and a close relative of his tried to kill him. At that point, one thing struck me from that conversation, how the hell does he know Boy George? This is an old man from some forgotten village of Greece only listening to traditional folk music... it is more than a decade later that his phrase "you know, some of those famous people are being killed by relatives in order to get their money" that actually made sense. This man is now long gone... I wish he was still around. Have a great day!
@sunraininlife5771
That's fascinating! Thank you for sharing ❤
Holy shit
Thanks for sharing for real😊
Yes,that man sounds wise, and so sad Kurt Cobain passed away,I don't think he committed suicide,I think he was murdered by that man
The most troubled souls have the most interesting stories to tell.
That is why their art resonates to the masses.
Exactly. Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, BTS, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B and so on
LOL
Damn, just crazy seeing the video of a group of kids sleeping in a van, then suddenly they’re playing “Dive”. Incredible.
You went deep into his tapes and a lot of his life great video man
Correction: at 33:40 - Courtney was NOT in "rehab" in L.A. She was holed up (NPI) in an LA hotel suite, calling the cops posing as Kurt's Mom, and making sure she got arrested for a bag of fake drugs. See: her alibi.
Facts!
Sources please? Pretty please? Where are you drawing this information from? I'm not accusing you of lying I'm genuinely curious where was the original source of these things you just said. I searched "Courtney Love's alibi" and other similar phrases and I'm not getting very far.
She(CL) leaves backpack at rosemary's n Rosemary the finds practice sheet and reveals to Tom the backpack contents and that CL probably was responsible for Kurt's death and she can't believe she's getting away with it
@@jackelewish1568Tom Grant documented it all on tape with Ben plugman, rosemary Carroll confirmed some of it and also many media articles show this to be true
@@jackelewish1568 From the bs SIB fiction documentary. The bible of all the murder theorists.
One thing I've always wondered is if Kurt ever paid Tracey back or somehow did something for her once he was a millionaire. She and Kurt were together for like 5 years, before fame-but not before Nirvana.
Tracey is the only one of the two who paid their bills. And she did it alone, for years and years. Kurt even wrote about it more than once, how crummy he feels about her working all day while he sits at home in their apartment playing guitar.
He broke up with her very close to Nevermind coming out. It would be so nice to know that he bought her a house or something at least. I haven't tapped into what's going on during recent years but I know for many, many years she never sold stories and never used his name and their connect for personal enrichment. I don't think she even sold his stuff. I think she was just a really good person who really loved Kurt. She was too good for him, which he's acknowledged. I really hope he took care of her in some way but he really wouldn't have had much time to do that before dying in 94. If he didn't do it in those couple of years between their relationship and his death then I doubt she'd ever see anything from Courtney. Courtney wanted to portray herself as having ownership of Kurt in all ways. They were only in a relationship/married for not even two years.
Maybe Frances took care of Tracey when she turned 18 if Kurt didn't.
I always wondered that too..if he hooked her up
I thought about that too, sure be nice to finally find out if it happened or not.
He wrote About a Girl and that was it!
@@kimcallaghan3404 I wonder if she gets royalties. Lol.
He was a user and a flagrabt social climber.
He cheated on Tracey with Gabby and he became obsessed with Gabby bc she fit his snobby rock rock "look"
She didn't reciprocate feelings, and eventually he moved on to Courtney.
He didn't give Tracey Dick lol
What a well done video! Done with such compassion and desire for us to hear HIS words to coincide with the narration!
this is an excellent video man. I've seen EVERY nirvana, and kurt Cobain documentary and interview. and you've compiled it all very nicely. I'll definitely be rewatching this several times.
I was born in 90 and didn’t become a nirvana fan till I was about 13. But I relate to Kurt in a lot of his early life struggles, and addiction. I’ve watched maybe every documentary out there on him, and this is probably the best one. Thank you for putting this together so well and getting footage of these places. Kurt was so amazing and I believe that Courtney broke him. And it’s really hard to believe that she didn’t have something to do with it. That s****de note seemed really…off. Allen Wrench should be in jail. Thank you Matt Herron.
Same bro. Except 89 😅
your hero was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family. if youre gullible enough to believe the laughable Allen Wrench story you belong on meds.
"Allen Wrench" is just a hoax, even tom grant says it. its interesting though, how people will believe anything.
even i believed it, until i started digging deeper into the subject
I agree and living near Hollywood, I hear rumors too.. like River Phoenix & Love.. I also heard it was a record company mogul who arranged for River's demise..
Was it Cobain who finished off River due to an affair w/ Courtney? Was Courtney dishing payback to Kurt for his involvement? Questions..
@@Zanniroxwell you actually believe this garbage?
Excellent work! Courtney has always been sus AF. She really tried to separate him from all of his friends. I was so disgusted when she read the "suicide" note on MTV. That moment did not sit well with me. Then to learn of all the terrible stuff she has put Frances through. Such a sad story. RIP Kurt. Prayers for Frances!
Frances is doing just fine
@@laineholly3874 oh really, are you guys close?
I agree, the documentary is good. As for them, I think there's so many things only known to them. We only know what they choose to tell, it was a very tragic event for everyone, especially for those who were his family and friends.
I was 24 when this happened, and I remember turning to my friends and said, "she did it! I can't believe she really did it!" I've never had a doubt in my mind that the official story is bull$hit. She knew he was going to leave her. She knew she'd lose access to the money. Her jealousy wouldn't allow her to just let him go. Kurt was a complex man, yes, but he wasn't the tortured soul the media tried to make him out to be. He loved his daughter. He wanted to get out of the circus that is the music industrial machine. As an artist, he was looking to change his path. There was zero chance that, if he even took that massive dose of H, he would have been able to lift the shotgun, much less pull the trigger. It would have been physically impossible. The heroin would have put him immediately on the nod, and likely flat out unconscious. The shotgun shell was found on the wrong side of his body, by the way. Also, no junkie that shoots that much is able to, or has the cognitive ability to neatly put their kit back together. Everything about Kurt's death, the circumstances leading up to it, even the police reports, are incorrect. Many mistakes were made by law enforcement, whether on purpose or through negligence.
No one will ever convince me that Kurt wasn't murdered, and I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that CL was 100% involved.
RIP Kurt. As much as you hated your fame, the legacy you left us, your music will always be part of an entire Generation. X
That's correct, he was ready to live happy, she is a monster who lied through fake tears...I was so disgusted when she read the note and each time I've seen her same gut punch reaction. So sad he's gone
I remember when Kurt died, I was distraught, in a very intense way, which is not like me at all. I really liked Nirvana, but had never sobbed at a musician’s death before. I was barely pregnant with my only child, and my husband thought it was hormones. On April 5, 1999, when our daughter was 4 & 1/2, my husband suicided. The song we played at his memorial, was a fav of ours, The Beatles, ‘In My Life’. In later years I heard some tidbit about Kurt and that song, but I don’t recall it at this moment. I’ve always wished my daughter and Kurt and Courtney’s girl could meet. They have more in common than I’ve written. I am so happy that Frances(sp?) Bean was raised by her aunt and grandmother. As a widow who has never remarried, because Mark was my soulmate, I have tried to find compassion for Courtney, but she emanates intense anger, and comes across as a different class of person than Kurt was. I don’t know what really happened, and I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure, but the two gems Kurt left behind were his music, and his lovely daughter, who seems to be more like her dad, and nothing like her mother. Sorry for the ramble. Death anniversaries are around the corner, and no matter how many years, it is very hard and very lonely sometimes.
I'm so sorry you and your daughter had to go through that. 😢❤
@@jamieabrams5100 Thank you. Your words mean a lot.
Another banger and well worth waiting for. Tastefully done compared to some I seen and really captures the spirit of the time.
I'm sure there's a fair few that watch this of my age (I was 16 back then) will get the same nostalgia vibes too.
No matter how Kurt met his end, his spirit and legacy will always live on. I now have a teenage Son of my own that's a Nirvana fan nearly 30 years on 🙏☮️❤️
You watched true psych wards series on kurt best on you tube ,
@@Crosshatch1212 True Psych Ward has some truly in depth and fantastic videos on the Cobain case. She's extremely thorough.
@@Crosshatch1212 Thanks for the heads up 👍
I’ve heard it said before, “The only bad thing I can say about Kurt Cobain is Courtney Love.” I absolutely agree. She was the death of him.💔
He was the death of him.
@@HorganBlatt yeah that’s why she literally just settled out of court this year for murder for hire plot on her own daughters husband🤦🏻♀️ what more information do you need google it
A little over 35 minutes in and this is a fantastic doc. Really appreciated the way you used the tapes to create direction.
Agreed
this is a great documentary but some of those text slides gotta move a lil quicker there were a few points where i was scrubbing to skip to the next bit of text. but this is an incredible documentary, fantastic work, friend
Great documentary. Been following and researching this story for years. I was 16 when Kurt died and enthralled with the grunge scene. it was hard since he really how to relate with us Gen Xers. I think I’ve seen every interview he’s ever done that’s been available to the public as well as every concert. I watch all the interviews dealing with this case and your documentary is laid out nicely. Just wish more people from his past would talk!! His mother, Wendy, certainly won’t talk and his sister won’t either.. What about his ex girlfriend, Tracy?? What about his other siblings??? The ONLY other family member to speak about his death was his grandpa and he’s gone now… i feel like their is SOMETHING going on that has caused everyone to stay quiet… why the hell wont they open this thing back up??? Well, I believe, MANY people were paid off and/or are scared.., there’s SO much… now I’m getting worked up lol… anyway, great job and thank you 😎
I agree. I like your comment...I totally agree with every point you made.
" i feel like their is SOMETHING going on"
Really?
Lets just ignore the FACT that this was almost 30 years ago and people already said everything about him, what more can you want?? You people are relentless!! Smh
How about this: you have a son, a brother, a father, a cousin, a nephew, a boyfriend that killed himself. Ofc, you remember him for the rest of your life.
Then, there are literally millions of people around the world talking and posting bs everyday like they knew your son, brother, father, cousin, nephew, boyfriend in person and better than you. Millions of people talking shit about you and your family and how bad you were to him, because they think so.
How willing are you to talk about it (again and again), just to satisfy the morbid curiosity of some stupid new fans? How willing are you to open your wounds (again and again), to ruin your grief and the memory of your loved one, just because some strangers on the other side of the world want to know the color of the socks he wore on Mondays?
@@andrepereira744Thanks for having a brain and empathy. It’s fucking heartbreaking losing a member to suicide and there are so many feelings involved. It blows my mind how people treat his death like some fun mystery puzzle. That still to this day the same shit is being said and it’s so childish and disrespectful. Depression and drug addiction is no joke. Kurt suffered terribly. Let the man and his friends and family rest.
@@phoenixgirl70 No mate, thank you.
Nirvana/Kurt became a joke because of these people and narratives. Over the years, seeing the amount of false and/or futile information that continues to appear is embarrassing to say the least.
The irony of when it’s your money keeping people silent about your own death. SMH to the people who DARE to do that.
I've heard two versions of turning down the Lollapalooza money. One is that she advised Kurt (pricelessly) that the Pumpkins were going to receive over 10 million if Kurt didn't do the tour, which would have been infuriating given the fact that she likely was sleeping with Billy Corgan while he was in Europe. This clip claims Courtney said she would gladly take his place, but didn't mention Corgan. That was about a month before he was found dead, so the sobbing at the funeral about how he should have stopped being a rock star (or waited until he was 40 to end it) was for show. Too bad that succubus came into his life and drained him, and likely had something to do with his "incident" that took his life. If he had only gotten the divorce he was planning and gotten out alive, he would probably still be around and could have lived life however he wanted to, and found a better woman. I've seen multiple docs on this and the truth will come out eventually, probably once a few of the people involved are gone.
The recordings at the beginning of Kurt talking about his childhood were a good find!
Kurt wasn't planning any divorce and he very clearly took his own life
delusional
@@chestrockwell6807yes he wanted a divorce. There is a recording of Courtney saying so
@@dianam9028 no there is not. no divorce attorneys ever contacted, Kurt had just attended rehab at her request and he was still wearing his wedding ring at the time of his death.
There is a recording of Courtney saying he was leaving her and she said she didn't want a divorce. Someone could have put his wedding ring back on his finger when he died
Used to hang out with Courtney's dad in San Francisco back in the 90s, in cafe treese in north Beach, anyway he would tell me about the horrible things she had done to him to family to friends and even to strangers. He feared her, honestly feared his own daughter. Of course that's just the opinions and stories from her own father... so take it as you want. But she was a scary bone to pick to be sure.
Interesting if true
He thinks she killed Kurt. While he is weird himself...I believe he is honest about her and...correct.
smells like something that rhymes with rap
Courtney's dad who ripped off the Grateful Dead? Yeah I wouldn't believe anything that fucking liar said.
Sure you did..
Most respectful special video i have seen in long while, total inspiration and if not reflexion in my own Life you don't have to be famous.. just love what you do and somehow impact you community in positive way. Definite should be proud of this production.Thank you and stay Alive- love this....
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have my alarm set and waiting for the premiere. Have a great day and thank you so very very much again.
This is the 1993 BBC interview by John savage. He copied it and makes it out to be his own creation.
Footage I have never seen, how? This is awesome!!!!! Thank you for your hard work.
Great video man. Been a while since a thorough story has come out about this. Keep up the good work.
Courtney reading his suicide note while repeatedly calling him an arsehole is sickening. I get she was grieving but that's really disturbing how nasty she can be to the father of her child after he's just blown his brains out. 😕
He didn't kill himself.
@@Boyhowdy875exactly. We may not know for sure who pulled the trigger but we know who was behind it.
Accusing someone of being a murderer without any evidence though? Really?
See I thought it was due to him being an icon and not living for the other people.
She loved the spotlight.
I usually never write reviews. But here’s I am, writing about Nirvana. Kurt’s voice is everything . ❤️ For the first part: I feel lucky to have loving parents; I’m so grateful for them 👨👩👧 . I feel emotional and happy that Kurt found his friend that loved him for what he is. And the coolest part: something in the way under bridge - I wish I’d never be there and be there for him as well laying with him there to just tell him you’ve a lot to live for. 🫶🏼😭 Love how they arrived at the name “Nirvana”
That rainstorm footage and them jamming after is the cutest 💕
Seattle, Washington 🤍🖤
But, I do NOT believe or encourage about the usage of drugs in anyway. I believe strongly that people do have “PhD” for a reason and not just as a qualification & not him saying that doctors saying or ‘just pretending and prescribing drugs’ and you can call it a total scam or whatever.
When he says small things like………(Continued in part 2)
If she was berating him this bad after his death I can only imagine what it was like when he was alive. He was incredibly depressed and she would just bash him for it.
Man, I wanna say something like 5-6 months before he died I saw them at the Michigan State Fair colosseum oct 93...I was 20. I'm 50 now and I still miss him ...
This is such a great & well put together vid. Ive never believed that Kurt took his own life, not to leave Frances on her own. Not after what happened to him as a child. More to this than meets the eye most def. Rip Kurt.
I understand where you’re coming from, but there’s no way that Kurt didn’t kill himself. In this whole video from his childhood, two days before his death everything just gets so much worse, and he become so much more depressed. when you say ‘ he wouldn’t kill himself because he loved Francis.‘ he did kill himself because he loves Francis. That’s how suicide works. He thought that Francis’s life would be better without him. That’s what he said in his letter. suicide tricks. Your mind into thinking that everyone’s life would be better without you + effects of drugs
@@llnnfrshk You need to do more research. There was no suicide note. It was a letter to Courtney about leaving music. The last few lines were forged by Courtney. They even found the practice sheet in her purse. Impossible for Kurt to have committed suicide. Watch the Soaked In Bleach documentary.
100% agree theirs absolutely no way he pulled the trigger to that gun the fact that the H in his system was over 3x what an average addict would do and then to top it off he had just gotten out of rehab theirs absolutely no way he could have even sat up imo let alone sit up hold the gun upside-down ND then pull the trigger at the same time no way imo
LOL did you even watch the video or you just enjoy spewing nonsense for fun
@@babayaga1203 What nonsense? That is pretty obviously what the note is talking about. Anyone can read it. And the literal practice sheet Courtney used is in Tom Grant's possesion, given to him by Rosemary Carol after Courtney left her bag at Carol's house. And Kurt wouldn't have been able o do anything except collapse onto the floor with the amount of heroin they said was in his blood. So yaeh, impossible for him to have committed suicide.
Being a self appointed expert myself on everything Nirvana i thought there was nothing new I would ever see on Kurt . But some of this interview and video footage you have here is new to me in 2023. Amazing
Best Kurt Cobain Documentary I’ve seen & I’ve watched every one… his music & his death fill parts of my heart always & 4ever! 🥹❤ New footage never seen before & great job editing! Thank you! 💞
"Being proud of the fact that I was gay even though I wasn't, I really enjoyed the conflict"
That alone, I love this guy's personality and his mind.
????? It's bs, ramblings of a pathetic junky.
Just her reading of the note is so suspicious. Trying to set expectations like “it’s more like a letter to the editor” … declaring “I don’t know what happened” … and then the weird, almost admission like “it was going to happen but it could have happened when he was 40.” She wanted him to be Sid Vicious. She wanted him to die a legend. And from all of the information out there, it seems like she was going to make sure it happened, one way or another.
you clowns think everything is suspicious. what is so suspcious about reading a note? Kurt was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family.
That woman is as vile, and as dangerous, as Nancy Spungen was.
yeah she literally thought of herself as Nancy she wanted to play her in that movie from the 80s she called the director or something begging for the role but they'd already found an actress so she ended up playing one of her friends
Absolutely. She is seeping with guilt in every word!!!
Her reading the note made her seem even more suspicious.
This is a very well put together documentary, this deserves more views give the guy some love for this vide
This is awesome! Extremely well put together ❤
Thank you so much!!
This is fantastic, I love the way you put it all together.
My ex idolizes Kurt so much to the point that I believe, he wants to feel what he felt. He wanted to be just like him. He was in a band that played cover songs from the 90’s alternate era but never went anywhere. He would always talk about Kurt and knew everything about him. That was years ago while he was in highschool. For context, he is now 40. He didn’t get on drugs until his late 20’s. He was and probably is still obsessed with the 27 club. We have two kids together and we haven’t seen or heard from him going on 6 years. I left him after years of chances (we were together for 15 years since we were 16 & 17). I know he’s still alive as we live in the same county and I keep in touch with his sister. It’s just sad all around.
10:58 I can say after having gone to many shows in that venue in Iowa City, and finally getting to play there this summer after a decade of attempting to book a show there on short notice to fill in for a band that dropped out, everyone STILL talks about Nirvana's show there. Kurt left quite an impression. It's the only place between Chicago and Kansas city that gets much culture in this stretch of the midwest.
This was incredibly done. Thank you for this. Not only do you really know your stuff but you looked into the truth. That is so appreciated. I know now in the day of the internet people understand more often that he did not commit suicide but I remember that not always being the case. It always irked me to hear professionals say "he killed himself"
All of this was so well done and I cannot thank you enough for it. You're great!
I remember expecting it, our group of friends, I was 14, my friends Dad came by to pick him up and said "He finally did it". We all knew what he meant, whether someone took advantage of the expectation to bump him off with few to question it, perhaps. But it seemed like it was inevitable. My friends dad was a big independent music head, had subscriptions to a whole bunch of indie labels to receive their albums and had introduced us to Nirvana when we were 9, he knew a bunch if now legendary musicians in the 70s and 80s, these guys are gonna do something, then he wont be around long, you wait. He was right, maybe someone took advantage of that expectation.
in my humble opinion that's exactly what someone did. a dumb bitch? yes. an intelligent bitch? also yes. i could be wrong. I've been wrong thousands upon thousands of times, maybe.. lolol
That note sounds exactly like Courtney.
Can’t wait, bout to watch it later your work is tremendous
Amazing documentary! I have seen all the Kurt Cobain doc's and this is hands down the best.
Hearing Kurt talk here, especially at the beginning, makes me think of issues that people with BPD have, and how they react to childhood trauma, issues with loved ones, and arguments. This has made it easier to see the personality behind a tortured creative mind.
and people with Borderline Personality Disorder have a much higher suicide rate than those who do not have it, and are far more prone to use addictive substances.
I`m no doc. but I have known a few bi-polar people and it is not even noticeable in some, maybe cuz of meds, but a few were really hard to deal with day to day. Usually the phases would last for weeks, high to low. Sort of manic to despair. I think it must be like manic depression.
@@gib59er56bipolar disorder and manic depression are the same thing. Bipolar is merely the updated name. I prefer manic depression personally.
@@mistressofstones yes , I hear you and think yopu are spot on correct. Hell, I feel depressed alot but I refuse to give in to the "f#@$ it`s, ya know?
I never liked Nirvana's music but still this is a tragedy of epic proportions. Regardless how I feel about the person or their music, it's a tragedy for such a young life to end. It didn't have to be that way. One of my business associate's family members gave me the suspicion that he would commit suicide. I reported it to my office. They made light of it. Then 2 weeks later I had to come off the case for my safety and the very next day a coworker confided to me that he was indeed planning suicide. Never ignore your intuition!
Courtney definitely had her hands all in Kurt’s death. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. There’s too much evidence that’s pointing straight to her. Not to mention, she attempted the same crap on her ex son in law over Kurt’s freaking guitar that was given to him by Frances. I’m not sure what even happened with that case or if it’s even went to trial yet or not. But I find it pretty ironic… dude would be dead if it weren’t for his friend showing up. American Spy Fox’s channel has sooooo many videos with legitimate information. Kurt deserves justice and Courtney deserve prison.
American spy fox is a hoax. A KC wannabe that serves his personal opinions and assumptions like facts! His been making profit with KC death for way too long, thanks to gulable people like yourself!
Isaiah Silva [Frances' ex] was another KC wannabe, who started dating Frances when she was underage!
He's another leech, who wanted that guitar so much that he sold it soon after.
The “poor” guy now has a pension of 100 thousand per month because of a 2-year marriage, plus the 6 million from the sale of the guitar. Oh and btw, Frances was on the side of her mother on this, as she claimed she never gave him the guitar as a wedding gift.
Start thinking for yourself instead of eating all the crap the ASF says.
ASF is a hoax! A KC wannabe that serves his personal opinions and assumptions as facts.
He has been profiting from KC's work and death for too long, thanks to gullible people like you.
He's a leech.
And Isaiah Silva [Frances' ex], who, btw, started dating Frances when she was underage, is another leech. He was also a KC wannabe, who wanted that guitar so badly that he sold it soon after.
Now the poor guy has to live on a pension of 100 thousand a month, because he was married to Frances for 2 years. Plus, another 6 million from that guitar sale. Poor guy..smh.
Frances was with her mother on this matter, as she maintained that the guitar was never a gift for him.
Stop eating everything ASF serves and start thinking and researching information for yourself.
I will continue to post this!!
ASF is a hoax! An KC wannabe who presents his personal assumptions and opinions as real facts! He has been making money off of KC's story and death for too long, thanks to gulable people like you! He's a leech.
And Isaiah Silva [Frances ex] is another leech! He was also a KC wannabe, that started dating Frances when she was underage, btw! He wanted that guitar so much that he sold right after.
Now, the poor guy have to live with a pension of 100k per month, because he was married to Frances for 2 very very long years. Plus, the 6 milions from the guitar sale! Poor guy...smh.
Btw, Frances was with her mother, regarding this as she claimed that guitar was never a gift to him.
Stop eating and regurgating all the things ASF say, and start thinking and reserching info for yourself.
We will never know the real truth behind his death, but you are correct. There is so much evidence pointing towards the narcissist.
I have done a lot of research into the matter, watched the Soaked In Bleach documentary as well too. But I never heard of this with Courtney's son in law?? Very interesting. I will have to look into it.
4:56 he’s so right about everyone of our generation thinking they would die before 25 years old. We all thought that. It messes you up. You throw away investing in yourself and your future. Sad. Whole generations.
in an alternate universe, the 90s is when ww3 happened. Many of us might have died, but didn't.
Now Millienials are lucky to make it to 30...
Listening to his last preformance was heart-wrenching
Never seen a lot of this footage before of the early early days. Thanks for sharing.
Krist was a good friend and bro to Kurt seeing Courtney for what she was-an opportunist that saw Kurt's rising star and abandoned Billy Corgan without even ending the relationship. (Going back to him to produce an album after Kurt's death.) Regardless of what exactly happened I think Kurt was clearly making motions for a divorce after the joy of Francis' birth wore off. I still think Kurt we were robbed of some potentially fantastic music had Kurt and Kristen Pfaff got together. I think they both would have complimented the other and Kurt may very well have found the type of love he desperately sought his entire, tragically short life. He wanted to be a rock star yet when he got it in spades he realized it's all an illusion of fake corporate rock where profit, not creativity is the driving force and he felt horrible for 'selling out'.
:( that‘s what I think aswell… tragic shit
As a heroine user, it is possible to function and harm yourself with a weapon when on extreme amounts. Sometimes a man’s will to die is stronger than the drugs. Be safe.
It’s been 9 months, have u quit?
@@MasonIsCool13 yes and I’m working out and living my best life. Trying to get my shit back on track lmao. My minds was in a crazy dark place
@@lilbo2879 good job dude! I hope stuff gets better for you!!!
@lilbo2879 don't quit quitting !!💪 congrats mate, wish you the best
These are very interesting documentaries you have put together. It would be nice to see you make one in Taylor Hawkins' memory.
This is the best video I've ever watched online. The information is given out in a good way. I absolutely enjoyed watching this and learning from it. I'll take some time to look into all of this myself.
He got caught up in huge money, drugs, and being surrounded by sleazy people.
Yeah, bad company like Courtney who you know was not compatible with Kurt's world view and as he matured, even more so.
Yeah I watched the Kurt and Courtney as well as the Soaked in Bleach documentaries and was convinced that Courtney was some how involved with Kurt's death. And after watching your documentary on Cobain I am even more convinced that he didn't commit suicide. Also in the Soaked in Bleach documentary they interviewed Dr. Cyril Wecht a highly respected forensic pathologist and he says that Cobain had enough heroin in his system would have been enough to kill 3-4 people. I remember when Nirvana was inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame they booed the living hell out of Courtney. The Kurt and Courtney documentary was so rememberable because of Courtney trying to put a stop to it on top of the El Duce interview. I also didn't know that Kris didn't attend Kurt's wedding that's interesting.
Soaked in Bleach is an error filled work of fiction that makes numerous false claims and been trashed even by the people who appear in the film. Cyril Wecht is a crackpot who believes in literally every conspiracy theory out there including ones involving space aliens. 225mg is hardly enough to end the life of one addict let alone 4.
SIB = BS nonsense
sheep
Tom Grant claims BS. Isn't it interesting that all of these alternative theories about his death all originate from his website and his interviews? The guy made a career out of this stuff.
About the heroin; that dose might kill 3 to 4 NON-users. Kurt was at that point a heavy user, and as such, had build up a high tolerance-level. So this 'evidence' means nothing.
That goes for a lot of Tom Grant's claims
@@raymondhartmeijer9300The fact he was an addict is so apparent that when they say he had enough in his system to incapacitate him I would assume they meant on top of his tolerance. You just dont build an endless tolerance to a drug.
What’s more sad is of how there’s a shrine like think outside of Kurt’s house (the mansion you showed us)
Wow!!
Thank you!!
The way you put it together, you have done this tragic story a bit of justice I believe
❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
It's hard to remember anything until I was 7-years old, but I had a perfect childhood and was encouraged to be artistic. Then my parents divorced so I threw cans at police cars. My only friend in school was gay, and my 1st band was called Fecal Matter. My Dad won custody so he could abandon me until I became famous.
Justice for Kurt and Kristen x
Thanks for putting this altogether, mate! I've read Kurt's suicidal letter a couple of times but never actually heard Courtney reciting it at his funeral. Til now. It's mindboggling she says " then don't be a f****** rockstar you a*****, when she cursed at him for not wanting to do Lolapalooza because he was losing money?! I mean...
From all I've seen and read about the death of Kurt Cobain I can honestly say that I have no doubt in my mind that Courtney Love was responsible for his early demise.
no! it's easy to point to her.
😂
People always say this and never back it up with facts. He killed himself.
@@damagedbug8848shooting yourself in the side of the head with a shotgun is impossible. that’s a fact.
Yeah it’s been known with pretty good evidence against her but somehow she stays out of trouble 🤦♂️
I remember being in grade 8 and learning he shot himself and I was a mess. My whole class thought I was crazy mourning Kurt. I felt it in my bones. Was my first loss of life of anyone I knew.
I knew El Duce... I was partying with him drinking Tequila on New Years Eve 94/95 outside of Casbah Studio in the parking lot of the industrial strip where the studios were... He told me the same exact story after I told him that Kurt is/was my cousin. El Duce was a strange individual, a talented musician and performer (The Mentors)but was no more weird to me than any of the other colorful characters that hung around DVP Drum and Casbah Studio.... when he told me all this I really didn't believe him because we were both pretty lit... We were about 50 feet away from the railroad tracks that run through Fullerton parallel to Commonwealth Ave about a 1/4 mile from the Hunt Wesson plant... I still remember the stench of Worstershire Sauce that they bottled there and the odor was always in the air.. That night, New Years Eve, El Duce got pissed off at me for not believing what he told me and threw the mostly drank bottle of tequila at the train that came rumbling past and we went back inside the studio. He told me off in a tirade that was filled with the f word lol. Ironically that area of the train tracks are the same place that he laid down on the tracks and was run over by the train. Was it an accident by a drunk kinda weird guy who would lay on the tracks as a joke? Maybe. Because he was like that... a little crazy. Or did he do it because of his knowledge of Kurt's death? Or did he get drunk/high with someone while hanging out on the tracks and then dragged onto the tracks while he was passed out?
Duce was a talented musician... I saw him play live in the rehearsal studio and also saw him play his Moog Synthesizer... just jamming on it , switching patches and having fun. I had wanted one since they were invented and that was the first time I had seen one up close and how they worked. I was enthralled lol.
Anyway when Duce and I were talking that New Years Eve, I asked him if HE did it (offed Kurt) and he just gave me a weird sideways look and didn't answer.
No one will ever know the truth about Kurt or El Duce.
Duce was a known liar who's bandmates admitted he made up the entire Cobain story to make money off the tabloids.
Never say never or no one will ever. Life is full of surprises. Then we just may be related.
I really love how you went the extra mile to really help us visualize everything
“Nobody dies a virgin…
Life fucks us all.”
- Kurt Cobain
Very good video. Put together nicely. I knew most this info but I like how you put it together. I was like 18 when Kurt Cobain died and it was pretty hard. I felt like he was one of us. Being a punk rock skateboarder since I was in like 5 grade we witnessed Nirvanas rise. An exciting time in music. I actually went to his house in 97 and I shit you not the realtor was standing in the driveway and the girl I was with claimed to know Kurt and Courtney and she walked straight up to the dude and asked where Courtney was. He said I'm selling this house for her. Pretty crazy. Then I chumped a few dollars from these rich couple who had their daughter in the car , she wanted to know where Kurt Cobains house he lived in was. I said I'll tell you for a few bucks. Then I pointed y'all right in front of it. I was all proud of myself, at the time I was hopping trains around and homeless. But the girl I was with was like you idiot you should have gotten at least 20 bucks haha.
That's pretty wild. Who was the girl yoi were with? How crazy is it that she actually knew Kurt and Courtney!?
@@joshuayettou9032FRRR
@@joshuayettou9032 she "claimed to". AKA she didn't.
This is timed perfectly alongside my severe seasonal depression! This time last year I coped via a Kurt obsession, looks like i'm doing the same this year!
Lol.
Severe? You're commenting cogently online about the mental state you claim and how you supposedly coped with it last year. Sorry hun, but that's not severe. It may be more than the SAD that everyone in the northern hemisphere feels at this time of year, but it's not severe. You're only just in your mid-twenties, and theres no need to make a persona out of the winter blues. Take some B12 and choose to try on a different persona today.
@@michaelc3977 Sorry, who the fuck are you? 🤣
Firstly, I said severe seasonal depression, that is SAD. SAD is seasonal depression. So what's your point?
Secondly, I spent my teenage years and early twenties in and out of psychiatric facilities because my depression was so severe. This time last year was one of the worst depressive episodes I have ever had, and yes, this year I am alive and im writing. Though still do have seasonal depression. I didn't choose to have it, all I can do is find my own ways to deal with it until spring comes around again.
Now, depression itself does not impact the function of one's skills. You can be depressed and still write or type. You can be depressed and still work. You can be depressed and still smile. So why depression would have an impact on my ability to type in a RUclips comment section is unbeknownst to me. Of course depression impacts our executive functioning skills and our motivation for daily tasks/living, but that is entirely different than the baseline skill of being able to type words.
I have a BCS in psychology along with it being my main special interest. I am aware of what depression is and is not. I think maybe you should look into it a little more before you spew your very limited and contrived opinion.
Also, you've never met me. You read a 2 sentence RUclips comment by a young girls seasonal depression and Kurt Cobain obsession and you thought 'let me vomit my negative opinion towards her and bring her down a peg'. Thus, sir, indicating to me that you have many unaddressed issues with yourself+the world around you. You typed that comment as if you are the only person in the world who's ever been depressed, and it screams 'no one cares about me, so I'm going to be mean to other people'.
Yeah I am only in my mid twenties, and honestly it's been a tough fucking ride, but somehow I'm thankful. Thankful that I'm not a bitter, repressed, resentful old cunt scowering for negativity on the internet.
May you always get exactly what you deserve in this life ⭐
@@michaelc3977Wow! The amount of snark in your comment is awesome. 😂 However, right is right and you are right. ❤
mindlessly indulging in nirvana and Kurt is how we cope
Thank you so much for making this 🥺😢 ❤
If he hadn’t taken himself out, we might not have anymore Nirvana records, but I imagine Kurt would have either done some solo stuff or really hunkered down and produced a bunch of art which would also have been cool.
I think he would've stepped away and had a quiet life maybe producing, I think he would be proud of Grohl. Kurt was already having memory issues with unplugged that's why they brought in Pat Smear, he was developing drug brain like Ozzy Osborne. If he was still alvie I think he would have many health issues.
Beethoven composed at the age of 12. Love Kurt but let's not go crazy.
I think there is reason enough to believe Nirvana would have stopped in 1994. Kurt had started to hate touring the amount they had to for In Utero. He had said no to a number of touring opportunities for the band earlier.
Most likely he wanted to continue in the Unplugged vein, and work with Michael Stipe. Kurt was a massive REM-fan, and occasionally perform live on his own terms
He DIDN'T take himself out.
Do the math
@@anitakephart3851He did. The only "evidence" came from grifter Tom Grant and it was all debunked almost instantly.