Nazi Flare Collection and an MP44 Sturmgewehr!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @kller3131
    @kller3131 4 года назад +51

    Top says "Leucht- und Signalmunition 500 Patronen Hülsenlänge 83mm" which translates into "flare and signal ammunition 500 rounds case length 83mm".
    Inside says "500 (crossed out to 60) flare rounds" with an order number from "Luft" (I guess Luftwaffe or airforce), a lot number (9), a production date in december 1939 and a hint to use them until january 31st 1946.

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 года назад +8

      Thanks for the help. Are in Germany?

    • @kller3131
      @kller3131 4 года назад +10

      @@LegacyCollectibles yes I'm a 28 yearnold engineer from Germany and I just have to say I love your videos!

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 4 года назад +7

      A hint to use them until January 1946? Sounds like a use by date, that explains why they didn’t go off. 😆

    • @kller3131
      @kller3131 4 года назад +3

      @@JohnMcMahon. yes thats what I meant. Didnt find the correct word for it ;) something like best before....

    • @VR-ym8ys
      @VR-ym8ys 4 года назад +1

      👍

  • @VeraTR909
    @VeraTR909 4 года назад +26

    The quality of the leather after all these years is astonishing.

    • @f355spidersea
      @f355spidersea 3 года назад +1

      That is because (in the case of the leather flare holster) it is a commonly sold reproduction made in India...really. Check Ebay ;)

  • @tiredlawdog
    @tiredlawdog 4 года назад +11

    Don't feel too badly there Tom, someone years ago gave me what I thought was a treasure trove of .45 Auto ammo. After many duds, I noticed the date stamped on the rear of the shell, 1939!! Hell, I was born in 1945 and I don't work too well either.

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 4 года назад +18

    Destroy an attic found MP44, never, I would become an instant felon.

  • @antoniusbuchwieser3163
    @antoniusbuchwieser3163 Год назад +2

    When I was a 12 year old boy, I saw that gun in a book and I fell in love with it. It took me 40 years to get a MP44, I fullfilled a dream and it is a delight to shoot with it.

  • @Roller_Ghoster
    @Roller_Ghoster 4 года назад +9

    It's great you show us these. I couldn't care less if you dont know every minutiae of detail because your enthusiasm makes up for it. Top stuff.

  • @TOMAS-lh4er
    @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад +6

    YOU are so cool!! that you tried the flares ,AND tried till you got one to fire !! You were reading all our minds about wanting you to try to fire one !! It like being a kid and wanting the adults to give in and try the flares !!THANKS!!

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 года назад +3

      Thanks. My kids dont think Im cool.

    • @TOMAS-lh4er
      @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад +1

      @@LegacyCollectibles SO ! WHAT DO THEY KNOW .."REALLY" !

    • @jeanbaptistevallee4500
      @jeanbaptistevallee4500 4 года назад +1

      @@LegacyCollectibles We do!

    • @TOMAS-lh4er
      @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад

      HEY !! any chance you could put new primers in them ,see if they fire ?/

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 Месяц назад

      ..do you know a collector here in FL. named Howard Resnick???? Good Guy and a big time flare gun guy...

  • @Stevarooni
    @Stevarooni 4 года назад +8

    There's nothing like hearing you laugh (giggle) out in the dark as you try to shoot a flare up into the air.

  • @dw566
    @dw566 4 года назад +1

    Very sporting of you to shoot those old flare cartridges! Had a lot of fun watching this episode. Thanks

  • @not-a-theist8251
    @not-a-theist8251 4 года назад +10

    Leucht und Signal Munition.
    500 Patronen Hülsenlänge(?) 83 millimeter
    Yes that's flare gun ammo.
    "Lieferfima" is the delivery company
    "Deichmann" the name of the company (they sell shoes nowadays lol no idea if its the same company)
    and i think below that is the place from where it got shipped i read it as "Velten Mark" thats in Brandenburg
    the dummy round says "Light round yellow"
    the second box says "airtight" on it
    the first round that you attempt to fire is a smoke round (and i guess the others are too)

  • @larrywatts3400
    @larrywatts3400 4 года назад +3

    I enjoy your in-depth knowledge and presentations, thank you for sharing your appreciation and knowledge.

  • @kurtovesen2975
    @kurtovesen2975 4 года назад +5

    another great video from you.the flares you tried to fire is smoke ,for use in daylight . and they are not the correct flares fore the bakelite box. the single star flares fore the box is longer .i collect this stuff and have a good collection of flares and other things .

  • @kickit59
    @kickit59 4 года назад +2

    Tom if I could afford it I would buy that Sturmgewehr! I remember seeing the photo of a German soldier with one in the Battle of the Bulge when I was a kid! I thought even then what a cool weapon! Thanks for posting such cool content!

  • @Foche_T._Schitt
    @Foche_T._Schitt 4 года назад +5

    "Star of David" (Seal of Solomon)
    It's just a hexagram that was in common use long before the NAtsoNiceguiz took power.
    It was used in heraldry and vexillology and just called a star in Germany. In English and French heraldry it's called the "mullet of six points." In Albania it's a sixagram. Then there's the Star of Damascus found on swords to denote quality of the steel that came out of Damascus... It's also found in other religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, etc.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 года назад +1

      Was in Germany sometimes also used by brewers guilds.

  • @huckleberry602
    @huckleberry602 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic collection! Thanks for sharing.👍🏻

  • @Mr22lukasd
    @Mr22lukasd 3 года назад

    The condition of those bags and holsters are amazing. They look as if they were manufactured yesterday!

  • @terrygreen2243
    @terrygreen2243 3 года назад +1

    flairs are now required in boats now and those look so muck better then the walmart plastic one

  • @muratcharles3049
    @muratcharles3049 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for showing all these great things from the war.🇳🇱👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @benstovall2
    @benstovall2 4 года назад +1

    I love these videos and how excited you get about this stuff. It’s nice to see others who are as well! I wish I could buy a T-shirt!

  • @tommygun6028
    @tommygun6028 3 года назад

    Very Beautiful example of fine
    Mp44 .
    Thanks for Sharing Tom !!!!!!!

  • @zaxmaxlax
    @zaxmaxlax 4 года назад +17

    I'm glad I watched till the end, I wasn't expecting you to actually fire one. They expired 30 april 1945 the exact same day Hitler shot himself. What an irony.

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 года назад +9

      Great piece of trivia. Wish I had remembered that on camera!

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the vid Tom. Sweet items and a real joy to see to learn about.

  • @jimlab
    @jimlab 4 года назад +1

    Yes, you can ship it directly to a C&R license holder, but ONLY after the Form 4 for transfer of an NFA item to the individual (or trust) has been approved by the ATF, and ONLY if allowed by the purchaser's state laws covering NFA items. I know you called out the lengthy background check process, but the only difference the C&R license makes is that you don't have to find a local NFA dealer and file a Form 3 for the dealer transfer BEFORE filing the Form 4 for transfer to the purchaser. All applicable state laws apply, and just having a C&R license and an approved Form 4 does not make it legal to own a machine gun in every state, including mine. I wish it were that simple.

  • @mongolike513
    @mongolike513 4 года назад +1

    Wow, I had the Erma 22 M1 look alike, bought in 1967. Bloody hopeless , extraction was totally hit and miss , mainly miss. I should have bought a real 30cal one or a brand new Jungle Carbine in grease for $15. At the time Guns and Ammo magazine had tiny little b&w ads for war surplus weapons, I remember MP44 advertised for $15! Pity that I was a kid in my teens at the time.

  • @TheGearhead222
    @TheGearhead222 3 года назад

    Great video! I bought several boxes of Czech 26.5mm flares, and I thought I got a deal at less than $15.00 a pop! Those German flares with the aluminum cases are high quality, like most things WWII German-John in Texas

  • @glennbrymer4065
    @glennbrymer4065 4 года назад +1

    The condition of the bags etc were incredible. They must have been stored in a controlled area.

  • @trickeydick5024
    @trickeydick5024 3 года назад

    The condition that these items are in is nothing short of phenomenal .

  • @hans-petermeier7440
    @hans-petermeier7440 4 года назад +1

    Another great video. Thank you :-)
    But I wanted to add a little something to the video. The cartridge that you wanted to fire at the end was a smoke trail cartridge, so a signal for the day. It actually didn't belong in the box with flares.
    And the stamp with the eagle at 11:45 am is not from WWII, but from West Germany after 1945. This bag was probably used by the "Bundeswehr".
    Greetings from Germany

  • @rocco74superhuman45
    @rocco74superhuman45 4 года назад +6

    When I was 17 .I found out Sturmgewehr in the forest with my uncle by metal detector .. We was searching for relics and gold ,and this pop up after cleaning the soil not even deep . I was so happy about that ,special we found two full magazine next to full like it new. The MP 44 was bit corrosion ,and the wood in the end was eat up by nature , But who cares ,We took it home and cleaned ,I cannot even sleep the day and watching all night this assault rifle next to me. Now I am 46 and you telling me ,its cost 30 000$ ? people are greed ,all the prices on guns are crazy .

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni 4 года назад +2

      In the United States, we cannot as individuals own machine guns manufactured after 1986, so we have a limited collection of then that were registered prior to that year, and the price increases over time far beyond the materials and manufacturing involved just because of the rarity.

    • @M95-v4r
      @M95-v4r 4 года назад +2

      Illegal ist scheißegal haha, ich mein wer würde das nicht behalten

    • @jeanbaptistevallee4500
      @jeanbaptistevallee4500 4 года назад +1

      Gun?
      What gun?

    • @rocco74superhuman45
      @rocco74superhuman45 4 года назад

      @@M95-v4r Jawohl !!!

  • @johnsmick211
    @johnsmick211 4 года назад +2

    You are a riot. Love watching your videos. Thanks.

  • @adaltianno
    @adaltianno 4 года назад +3

    25:44 "Now that's a Nature Preserve"... Tom shoots and kills was once thought extinct, but actually last Dodo bird!

  • @talex7473
    @talex7473 4 года назад +1

    If I win the powerball I will certainly put this type of stuff in my week-one shopping list

  • @jeanbaptistevallee4500
    @jeanbaptistevallee4500 4 года назад +2

    Twenty years ago a coworker brought his dad`s bring back flare pistol and a sack of flares with him when I invited him to go shoot a few rocks out in the Mojave. The flares were notched on the rims according to the color flare so you could tell the color in the dark.
    I fired off three of them before we became concerned the local U.S. NAVY weapons center might send out someone to check us out.
    They were all sure fire, maybe because they had lived in the desert for sixty years or so......

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 4 года назад +2

    Outstanding video. Thank you.

  • @bavariasuhl
    @bavariasuhl 4 года назад +1

    C&R are subject to state laws, just holding a C&R isnt sufficient if your state doesnt allow transfers on C&R

  • @fenwelder2474
    @fenwelder2474 4 года назад +1

    Well done for trying them out.

  • @gibsondrummer
    @gibsondrummer 4 года назад +1

    The STG 44 is to many the holy grail of WW2 german small arms collectables , that and the FG42 of course
    I wish i had 50,000$ a C&R license and an approved NFA form 3 letter
    So nice !

  • @anthonybonomo5670
    @anthonybonomo5670 4 года назад +1

    Always informative and well done!

  • @jfakoggl
    @jfakoggl 4 года назад +1

    To my knowledge in Germany these flare guns are legal to buy/possess only by collectors with a special permission.

  • @krockpotbroccoli65
    @krockpotbroccoli65 4 года назад +2

    Is the silver double made from stainless? Also, thats a beautiful StG 44.

  • @Spencer859
    @Spencer859 4 года назад +3

    Love your videos

  • @ralphwiggum2058
    @ralphwiggum2058 4 года назад +2

    The box on the left is an airtight cartridge box...For 5 300 rd battle packs...1500 rds. of 8mm Mauser with lacquered steel cases. The manufacture date for the box will be on the side near the bottom. Not a Star of David on the flares, too. that means star flare. Re: Your earlier video...The 'Nicht Werfen' (Roughly translated Do Not Drop) held fuses for 88mm AAA rounds. There are actually lots of both kinds of boxes around because they were useful after the war. Also, If these were used to mail things home they would have an address on them...You probably shouldn't guess about this stuff...;)

  • @SeanieVoiceOver
    @SeanieVoiceOver 4 года назад +6

    Red flare = international distress signal, when ever I've seen one I've called the emergency services LOL

    • @LegacyCollectibles
      @LegacyCollectibles  4 года назад +5

      Glad it did not go off. My neighbors would have called the police

    • @f355spidersea
      @f355spidersea 3 года назад

      @@LegacyCollectibles Rauch...those were red smoke cartridges anyway...you would have been disappointed had they gone off at night

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 Год назад

      @@LegacyCollectibles Those flares did fire off, but they were black flares for use during the daytime /joking. Thanks for the video!

  • @piotrmroz7213
    @piotrmroz7213 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing with this great stuff 😘🙄🤗🤔😍🤩
    I'm still can't belive that I saw this and stuff could be in that great condition...

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for showing the MP44 Sturmgewehr an all of the Flare guns , Sir !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jhernandez8830
    @jhernandez8830 4 года назад +2

    great video as usual

  • @johndilday1846
    @johndilday1846 4 года назад +1

    I appreciate your sharing your knowledge with us, and don’t worry about critics. I loved the video.

  • @johnheasley653
    @johnheasley653 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video thanks brother keep it up

  • @carlweiss8942
    @carlweiss8942 4 года назад +1

    you do a great job, we all learn and enjoy

  • @graysonwilcox8015
    @graysonwilcox8015 9 месяцев назад

    The six pointed star is not strictly speaking a star of David. It's an old symbol the interlocking bars representing strength. It was used by a lot of weapons manufacturers and similar metalworkers for a long time. That is however still a little ironic.

  • @cheapolegunguy
    @cheapolegunguy 4 года назад +1

    Your neighborhood was real quiet for being Independence Day, nature preserve or not, anyway thanks for sharing :)

  • @Wolshanze
    @Wolshanze 4 года назад

    That is fucking stunning, if I had the money that STG44 would be mine !!!!
    Long over due of this channel a weapon of this quality !

  • @brittakriep2938
    @brittakriep2938 3 года назад

    The german word is Zug ( singular)/ Züge ( plural) , in this context it means the rifling grooves. But attention: Zug/ Züge can also mean Train/ Trains in railway context, and in Switzerland there is a canton with the name Zug. So, please no confusion ;-)

  • @wgs6606
    @wgs6606 4 года назад +1

    Curios and relics, kinda like me. Fun vid.

  • @TheGearhead222
    @TheGearhead222 3 года назад

    Although a fascinating and storied firearm, the STG 44's ammo is pretty esoteric. It's pricey when you can find it and I met one man who loaded his own 8mm Kurz for his STG-44-John in Texas

    • @andik859
      @andik859 Год назад

      Here in germany you find this some times in basements and throw it away. Next time better save them. How many dollar per round ?

  • @danisaladiesman
    @danisaladiesman 4 года назад +1

    The ending of this video is amazing lol

  • @petehotoff3715
    @petehotoff3715 4 года назад +1

    Great video! Many thanks,,,,

  • @marcogomez8754
    @marcogomez8754 4 года назад +2

    Tremendous video

  • @dalcallcenter2879
    @dalcallcenter2879 4 года назад +2

    I was really wanting the flares to go off dang it lol

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 4 года назад +1

    18:10 The official designation is actually 8mm Kurz (or 7.92x33mm Kurz) but everyone will know what you're referring to. ;-)

  • @shintokatana17
    @shintokatana17 4 года назад +1

    9:35
    Yeah, you slaughtered it

  • @stonefree1911
    @stonefree1911 4 года назад +1

    This is a really cool channel.

  • @rali4850
    @rali4850 4 года назад +1

    Maybe changing the primer with shotgun primer will work

  • @Bearlake1624
    @Bearlake1624 4 года назад +2

    Could have been a light hammer strike try another flair pistol .hit the same rounds again

  • @WAFFENAMT1
    @WAFFENAMT1 4 года назад +1

    Cool Stuff!

  • @ahall1459
    @ahall1459 4 года назад +1

    Collectors like their cartridges unfired...plus it could detonate, instead of shooting a flare....as the cordite can breakdown into its base components, nitroglycerine, petroleum grease, etc
    Otherwise, an informative video!

  • @Hickamfield
    @Hickamfield 4 года назад +1

    lovely firearm

  • @Ezkaton
    @Ezkaton Год назад

    I like that MP44!

  • @thorkill8246
    @thorkill8246 3 года назад

    I like those crates

  • @turbognjurzd4030
    @turbognjurzd4030 3 года назад

    I found about 20 of theese german flare rounds with my metal detector here in Croatia. After 70+ years in the ground 9/10 I fired still works, the ones that I found are made of steel and they are lacquered wery tick.

  • @stans977
    @stans977 4 года назад +1

    13:49 It is (not sure "ironic" is the word I would use)...on a first cylindrical container marked September of 1941 Sternsignalpatronen (which - if I am not mistaken - translated as Stern's signal rounds/ammunition) and other boxes have dates of 1944(?) and have a Magen David (shield of David) aka Star of David on them. Stern is a very common Jewish surname. Which leads me to think - company that used to belong to jewish businessman - was "nationalized".

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 года назад

      I have no knowledge about flaregun ammunition. But ,Stern' is in english ,star' , so i think it simply describes a special type of flaregun cartridge which was called so in those days.

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 4 года назад +2

    10:05 wouldn't that flare/grenade launcher be classed as a destructive device, because of bore size and rifling?

    • @JoeyP322
      @JoeyP322 4 года назад

      Flare guns can be mailed to your house. I think you have to state you’re over 18. I bought a few around 20 years ago. Czech and Polish Cold War era ones were pretty inexpensive. Flares are still out there.

  • @sweidman4817
    @sweidman4817 4 года назад +4

    I really wanted to see the flare.....

  • @bengland6969
    @bengland6969 4 года назад +2

    How many STG 44's are in the US

  • @relicsofmarketgarden7587
    @relicsofmarketgarden7587 4 года назад +5

    In Holland the flarepistol is legaal bit the ammo not 😢

  • @JohnW1711stock
    @JohnW1711stock 4 года назад +4

    At least you tried. Maybe someone will send you some live rounds to fire on new years eve. Even if they are duds, it's better than Ryan Seacrest. LOL!!

  • @fjm1061
    @fjm1061 4 года назад +1

    StG..the rifle design Kalashnikov ripped off.

  • @Purpmaster
    @Purpmaster 4 года назад +4

    Sorry, but I want to slap the man who let his wife use the ammo box as a planter! 🤬🤦‍♂️😂

  • @manuelfreitas8611
    @manuelfreitas8611 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic vídeo!!! BR

  • @JeroenFleer
    @JeroenFleer 3 года назад

    thanks for the effort awesome video!

  • @bwbethel
    @bwbethel 4 года назад +1

    You'd need to time travel back to 1945 for those flare cartridges to work!

  • @jensenwilliam5434
    @jensenwilliam5434 4 года назад +2

    Thank you!!!

  • @Lauli222
    @Lauli222 3 года назад

    Hello nice video👍🏻
    Is this flare ammo chest for sale? Im really interested in.
    Best greetings from austria

  • @celeiroacampamento9881
    @celeiroacampamento9881 4 года назад +1

    Impressionante a qualidade de todas as peças 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @davidlevinson8283
    @davidlevinson8283 3 года назад

    I'm curios if there is a modern manufacturer that can supply flare rounds for these vintage pistols?

    • @andik859
      @andik859 Год назад

      I thing it is all same caliber. Here in germany called Kaliber 4 means 26,5 mm Cardridge. You can buy it today and fire from this old signal pistols. Different types you can shoot up to 300 Meters with parachutes and 30 sec flame. But are carefully when you shoot this flare pistols, they are very kicks your hand hard. Imshot it one time and have enough.

  • @TJB1510
    @TJB1510 4 года назад +2

    Is that size flare still sold...? Those from 1941 are 79 years old, NO WONDER they were duds..

  • @hermittao
    @hermittao 4 года назад +1

    I understand the rebels thought these were a form of AK47:
    Army captures 5000 STG44s | Armory Blog
    www.armoryblog.com/.../free-syrian-army-captures-5000-stg44s
    Aug 11, 2012 · Probably captured by the Soviets and sold to their Middle East allies in the early 1950s. American Taxpayer February 28, 2016 at 5:44 am The STG44 is a quality battle rifle. It’s stronger than an AK and more accurate than an AR but it weighs almost as much as both of them put together.

  • @oliverfasola19
    @oliverfasola19 3 года назад

    Why do the Bakelite cases have the Star of David on them??

  • @mabbrey
    @mabbrey 4 года назад +1

    the mag makes it i think

  • @jamiemineer4879
    @jamiemineer4879 Год назад

    I’m interested in a WW2 M42 jump jacket can you help me locate one?

  • @1982asd
    @1982asd 3 года назад

    Did the Third Reich depict the signal cartridges with a Star of David? It's a little weird
    Anyway, I’m not sure all parts of the STG44 are original

  • @JF-xq6fr
    @JF-xq6fr 3 года назад

    8:29 looks from here as if it has grooves in the barrels?

  • @MrLotrecht
    @MrLotrecht 3 года назад

    The Eagle is the Weimarer Repuplik Eagle-the same as today again....

  • @kmcd1000
    @kmcd1000 4 года назад +2

    Holy C. Man, I need to know you.

  • @neogeo1670
    @neogeo1670 3 года назад

    These are fun to shoot

  • @АльбертГройсман-ы8я
    @АльбертГройсман-ы8я 4 года назад +2

    cool!

  • @adamchurvis1
    @adamchurvis1 3 года назад +1

    15:02 The only thing you came here for. You're welcome.

  • @stevewilson4514
    @stevewilson4514 4 года назад +1

    Love the video. Keep it up. Never mind the trolls. Trolls just gotta troll.

  • @JasperFromMS
    @JasperFromMS 4 года назад +1

    Nice!

  • @MrLotrecht
    @MrLotrecht 3 года назад

    It means "Leucht und Signalmunition" L..u.S. Munition Hülsenlänge 83mm