please don't come and yell "ACCORDING TO THE MANGA ITS A GIRL!" i know.But according to the ACTUAL ANIME "Shes" a "He" It just bothers me, well heres my proof, enjoy.
The writer confirmed Crona isn't gendered at all. They just decided to translate Crona to be a boy since we don't have official gender neutral pronouns in English.
+Benjamin Fleming honestly the version i watched said female, than again translations, i watched with subtitles. Regardless i don't think Crona them self see them self as a specific gender so it becomes moot at the point where the individual doesn't feel there ether.
Nabil Seghrouchni At the same time crona uses the masculine pronoun to describe themselves (boku). See where I'm coming from? The pronouns jump around because Crona is canonically androgynous.
The Author never gave crona a gender... the only reason they call crona a guy in the anime is because there is no gender neutral word for that in the English dictionary
Shadow Shock well, u could use "it" but that's seen as highly offensive when applied to a human, as it basically means that you don't view them as a fellow person, just a thing
Them and they can work for crona since ragnorak is always with him so it works. But irl when people who say they are gender neutral or want to be called them or they I honestly don't see much of a difference with that then calling them it. Either way it doesn't sound right. Unless they also have multiple personalities it doesn't sound right to call them "them" or "they". If I don't know what it is calling them "it" sounds correct. Like when people don't know the gender of a baby they say "So what is it?" the baby doesn't suddenly become inhuman just because you called it an it you just say "it because you don't know its gender. Even when I look up the word I get "a person or animal whose sex is unknown" So I still don't understand why the word "it" is somehow offensive if its used correctly.
Shendue That's not what I meant. Does it actually matter what gender Crona is? Crona could be anything. But I feel like not enough people realize that certain things like the clothes he wears or the way he behaves or the way the other characters refer to him really confirm what he is. I don't really understand that last sentence though. :/
I thought that you implied it was cringey due to the fact that it was immature and disrespectful to genderless people. You know, people that don't like being labeled as "male" or "female". The subtle things you mention may be intentionally misleading, actually. As far as I know, the author himself said that Crona is supposed to be of ambiguous gender to start with, therefore they don't actually have a specified gender, since the author didn't give them one. Therefore, it does matter in a sense. The author made they genderless precisely because he wanted people to be uncertain about their gender and be confused by their ambiguity.
Shendue You have a point there. That's not what I meant at all though :( I just find the ways a lot of people put out their own arguments really cringy and overall disrespectful to the character. Like, sometimes others say that Crona's gender depends on his personality and the way he dresses, when those traits don't determine anyone's real gender.
Actually, Crona is neither gender. Okubo, the manga's author, has asked for the translations by Funimation and Yen Press to be disregarded. The translations only used the term 'he' because they felt that 'it' was insulting to Crona as a character. In conclusion, Crona is only a boy in the English anime and in one manga translation, and the creator doesn't like it, making this non-canon, meaning that it must be disregarded.
Crona refers to himself as "Boku". Boku is one of the Japanese words to say "I" but it is not specific to one gender (used to be only for boys but in recent years girls use it in a tomboy sense). And in Japanese you can call someone "it" without it sounding weird. So Crona's gender has never actually been said. BUT in English calling someone an 'it' is rude and weird. So the english dub simply called Crona "he" for simplicity (the manga translators for english refer to Crona as "she").
In the Japanese Anime Crona is referred to as a boy and a girl because no one is sure of his/her gender. And in the English dub, when Crona is first seen, a note comes up saying that Crona is referred to as a boy because they didn't want to keep changing the word used and they are unsure of Crona's gender
Same. When I was first introduced to Crona they refered to them as a dude, so I thought and stuck with the idea that Crona is a guy for a while until the whole gender debate. Now it’s either “them” or “he”. owo
wessltov True. But the thing is, in SAO's case, you specifically know that Kirito is being mistaken for the wrong gender. In Crona's case, it's never revealed.
The author of the manga purposely left Crona's gender ambiguous. That's actually easier to do in japanese since they have neutral pronouns, whereas in english we are forced to choose between either 'he' or 'she'. The translation of the manga I read referred to Crona as a girl, and so did most of the subs I watched for the anime. I don't think it really matters anyway, because Crona doesn't act any more like one than the other, so everyone can just take their pick depending on what they prefer (me, girl, simply because I've gotten used to it). You can consider the 'English Dub Crona' a boy, since they decided to use male pronouns.
Actually, Funimation just used male pronouns with Crona because they thought using "it" and "they" would be insulting to the character. Officially, Crona's gender is undetermined.
I prefer to keep Crona genderless. ^u^ Also, just to say to everyone... you know when someone goes up to a dog and its owner... and you know when that someone says "Aw, HE'S so cute!"? That's because they are unaware of its gender, and call it a he, because, again they are unaware of its true gender. Yep. Same with Crona. Everybody is unaware of its gender, so they call it a he. I'll best be going now. This one grows tired...
You are missing a really important scene, when Crona first meets Maka in the church place, he says: "I don't know how to interact with girls", then says something like I want to stroke her hair, but I cant exactly remember. The fact that he would notice that Maka is different coz she's a girl and have such curiousity in her shows that hes a guy. Well that's what I think anyway.
That's what I think too. I think Crona is a boy but since he was raised by Medusa he had no sense of self so he was ambiguous and wore a dress cuz Medusa made him. And when he doesn't wear the dress anymore he switches to a boys uniform. Even if the gender is supposed to be ambiguous in the Japanese translation, I think that's what makes sthe most sense. The intent from the author was to show that Crona has no sense of self because of Medusa.
I really don't think she'd care if it came out a non-binary feminist furry with buttons instead of eyes as long as she could mentally break it to make it do whatever she wanted, but it's an interesting theory.
JEEZ!!! THAT İS NOT TRUE!!!!The word 'Crona' ITSELF means no gender. They just refer to Crona as a boy. in the anime but adressed him as a girl in the manga. The writer confirmed Crona isn't gendered at all. They just decided to translate Crona to be a boy since we don't have official gender neutral pronouns in English.
Contrary to popular belief, The idea in which "Crona is a male in the anime but female in the manga." is false. Both official translations from Funimation and Yen Press use male pronouns and noted to not be the sex of the character. In the English dub of the anime, male pronouns are used to refer to Crona, but this does not mean Crona is male. Funimation admitted that they had to settle with this rule because they felt that "it" would have been insulting to Crona as a character. The same rule applies to the Yen Press translation of the manga. Atsushi Okubo stated himself that Crona's sex is unknown.
I'm seeing alot of different things written. But what most of you forgot is that in Japan, pronouns dont exist in the way they do here. Gender isnt commonly used in sentences. In the english dub of the anime, they decided to add male pronouns. In the manga they used female pronouns. But it's official, Crona has no set gender. Is it really so hard to exept? Because non-binary people are real.
The first(and only I'm seen him far) I was so confused. At first I thought it was a bot because of the pink hair and since Crona has kind of high voice, but then I heard Soul or Maka call Crona a dude and I was like WTF its a dude? So I looked it up and I found a lot of different answers which confused me even more. I still like Crona a lot even though he/she creeped me out a bit when I first saw he/she, I took an immediate liking to him/her.
The problem with this is that it's the English dub in the Japanese version they refer to Crona using both feminine and masculine ways of speaking which is why they say unknown. A lot of people think Crona's just a weak timid boy but others think a weak timid girl which is why she/he looks up to Maka throughout the series for her strength and not one of the boys.
I always thought of him as a boy and that's how he'll always be to myself and nobody shall change my mind. Not even if it ever came to be when the creator tell us and he happens to be a she, I won't believe it. He just doesn't shout out girl to me with the facial features. That's only my opinion.
Same though. Nothing about Crona to me except for the robe/dress makes me see any girly features to point out the fact that they’re a female, so that’s why I sometimes refer to Crona as a male and almost never a female.
why is there still a debate on this the manga creator himself said Crona was genderless the only problem is that English doesn't really have gernder-neutral pronouns, so it's easier to call refer to Crona as "he" (in the original Japanese manga, Crona's referred to pretty gender-neutrally...) besides, isn't Crona the only one who can say? why would other characters talking about Crona prove anything... (and Medusa I guess...but even she calls Crona an "it" because she's a cruel bitch .-.) so to end this...Crona is genderless. Not a boy or a girl.
Yes maybe in the dub but in the original it hasn't a gender. They use a gender neutral pronoun there, but funimaton thought it would be an insult for chrona to call her/him it. So they used he.
+Nightcore Psyco Technically, women also use male pronouns, and male pronouns are also used by gender neutral individuals. Either way, the author has actually come out and said that Crona has no gender and that any translation that states that Crona is a 'he' are incorrect and to be disregarded as non-canon. It's all on the wiki.
Sarah Johnston The author stated that crona has no canon gender. However, He is reffered to using male pronouns. Whether or not he is a biological male is unconfirmed. The male pronoun thing is true, at least in the subbed/dubbed version of the anime. (I haven't personally read the manga)
Is the subbs version I'm watching they start off calling Crona "he", but the later subbs (done by different people I assume) suddenly started calling Crona "she". The first clip shown above said "she" in my version.
this whole debate was so cringe I forgot that people literally just decided to assign a gender to a person that literally was confirmed to not have one
+MrLandshark2002 i always thought Crona was some sort of a fem-boy type character. Could be wrong, idk. but yeh, i always assumed he was a girly type of male.
You may have a point, but in the anime (I watched the English subbed version) Crona is called "Medusa's son" and Medusa also states at several points in the series that Crona is her son.
thank you. a lot of ppl are mistaking it for a dress. i honestly thought from the beginning that crona was a boy, despite the voice actor and hair. i also thought he had feelings for maka. however, when netflix referred to him as "she" i made this face :O. it's undetermined, but that doesn't matter. i think it's a good think the writer did this. firstly, it's a good business strategy. also, it makes a point about gender and sexuality. i wonder if there are other countries debating on this.
I wouldn't quote me on it because I maybe remembering this wrong. But during one of the episode commentaries (that is a bonus feature on the DVDs) it was stated by the English director that Crona doesn't actually have a given gender, however they used "he" and "him" because it would make the translations awkward to avoid gender terminology and that it would be too dehumanising to refer to him as "it" or "they". But once again I wouldn't quote me on it.
apparently the producers or whoever it was of soul eater said it wasn't supposed to be known whether crona is male or female but why do all the characters refer to him as a he (i read it on the wiki)
Its the way its translated, in the Japanese he is a girl. But they changed it in translation, cause the original subtitles say she. But they change the dialog to make it make more sense, stuff does not always translate perfectly.
i think not even the other characters know about Crona’s gender. Patty even said something like ‘I don’t know if this kid is a boy or a girl’ once, so...
There is "he" and "she" in Japan, but in the Japanese original they say something that translates into "that kid" or "that child". For the sake of better sentence flow they revised it to "he" in English.
You can't say that "according to the anime its a "he" " just because of the way they refered to Crona in the dubs. It depends on the translators, for example if you watch it with subs most people write a "she" (and in the manga as well) but since the more popular translations write Crona as a "he" they ended up putting it like that in the dubs. Anyway I don't think the author ever specified the gendre (check out the wiki on Soul Eater) so its kinda meaningless to argue about it (like I've seen in some comments).
In, the manga it says female, as well as the japanese dub. In the funimation english dubs and subs however, it says male. On the wiki it says unknown and in an interview with the creator it was stated to be 'undecided'. So basically, crona's gender can be up to the viewer to distinguish. Kind of like hanji from attack on titan (in the manga at least)
Since this is the dubbed, the people who wrote the English version aren't in close contact with the actual Japanese director, and probably just went their own way while writing the script.
I don't care a whole lot, but in the Keshans shrine, ragnorak tried to pull up his "skirt" and when it shows two of the death scythes in the bathroom it shows the woman's bathroom symbol on the door and it looks exactly like Crona.
in the version that everyone speaks japanzize they call crona an it and in the Spanish dub they call crona a she crona is many different genders it just depends on the language
I believe that the reason Corna is referred to as a he in the anime is because it's translated from a neutral noun in Japanese, and they just decided to translate it into he. Idk. It's just what I've heard.
Id just like to say that nothing is confirmed in the manga, some fan translations use she or he out of preference. Frankly Id say those are bad translations, the author wants it to be unknown so the translators should be conveying that intent
He is Soul Eater's Puar, if you have ever read dbz you would understand the reference, honestly I'm fine with him just being ambiguous (un know gender) it honestly doesn't matter. It's even better because he/she makes a character anyone can relate to, which is actually quite a great idea from the mangaka (the manga author)
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The writer confirmed Crona isn't gendered at all. They just decided to translate Crona to be a boy since we don't have official gender neutral pronouns in English.
Exactly. Some people are so quick to jump to conclusions!
+Benjamin Fleming honestly the version i watched said female, than again translations, i watched with subtitles. Regardless i don't think Crona them self see them self as a specific gender so it becomes moot at the point where the individual doesn't feel there ether.
+CocoaCoffin Love sorry but she is a girl, when Medusa was fighting stein she said 'waga musume' translate = my daughter
Nabil Seghrouchni At the same time crona uses the masculine pronoun to describe themselves (boku). See where I'm coming from? The pronouns jump around because Crona is canonically androgynous.
+CocoaCoffin Love phisically she is a girl but mentally she is a boy :D
The reason Crona is called a "he" is because in Japan it's very offensive to call someone like that "it" so "he" is the default terminology.
Yep.☺
Crona is a chick. Js look at all the characters
Dr Victora Why would they call a person an "it?" They'd have to know Crona's gender, to apply for school.
They call those people he/she by how they look. So Crona would probably request to adress him as a 'he'.
That makes sense. Or Crona could be adressed as "They" possibly.
The Author never gave crona a gender... the only reason they call crona a guy in the anime is because there is no gender neutral word for that in the English dictionary
Shadow Shock well, u could use "it" but that's seen as highly offensive when applied to a human, as it basically means that you don't view them as a fellow person, just a thing
"Them" "They"
Animtrea that is true, but it's still usually used in describing a group of people
Logan Wynn technically since Corona and Ragnorak (not sure how to spell it) they is actually an acceptable term since it's technically two persons.
Them and they can work for crona since ragnorak is always with him so it works. But irl when people who say they are gender neutral or want to be called them or they I honestly don't see much of a difference with that then calling them it. Either way it doesn't sound right. Unless they also have multiple personalities it doesn't sound right to call them "them" or "they". If I don't know what it is calling them "it" sounds correct. Like when people don't know the gender of a baby they say "So what is it?" the baby doesn't suddenly become inhuman just because you called it an it you just say "it because you don't know its gender. Even when I look up the word I get "a person or animal whose sex is unknown" So I still don't understand why the word "it" is somehow offensive if its used correctly.
the whole gender debate makes me actually cringe
Why? It's just simple curiosity. There's no inherent sexism or offense to people who don't identify with a gender into it.
Shendue That's not what I meant. Does it actually matter what gender Crona is? Crona could be anything. But I feel like not enough people realize that certain things like the clothes he wears or the way he behaves or the way the other characters refer to him really confirm what he is. I don't really understand that last sentence though. :/
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I thought that you implied it was cringey due to the fact that it was immature and disrespectful to genderless people. You know, people that don't like being labeled as "male" or "female".
The subtle things you mention may be intentionally misleading, actually. As far as I know, the author himself said that Crona is supposed to be of ambiguous gender to start with, therefore they don't actually have a specified gender, since the author didn't give them one. Therefore, it does matter in a sense. The author made they genderless precisely because he wanted people to be uncertain about their gender and be confused by their ambiguity.
Shendue You have a point there. That's not what I meant at all though :(
I just find the ways a lot of people put out their own arguments really cringy and overall disrespectful to the character. Like, sometimes others say that Crona's gender depends on his personality and the way he dresses, when those traits don't determine anyone's real gender.
Actually, Crona is neither gender. Okubo, the manga's author, has asked for the translations by Funimation and Yen Press to be disregarded. The translations only used the term 'he' because they felt that 'it' was insulting to Crona as a character. In conclusion, Crona is only a boy in the English anime and in one manga translation, and the creator doesn't like it, making this non-canon, meaning that it must be disregarded.
Crona refers to himself as "Boku". Boku is one of the Japanese words to say "I" but it is not specific to one gender (used to be only for boys but in recent years girls use it in a tomboy sense). And in Japanese you can call someone "it" without it sounding weird. So Crona's gender has never actually been said. BUT in English calling someone an 'it' is rude and weird. So the english dub simply called Crona "he" for simplicity (the manga translators for english refer to Crona as "she").
dat boi
So glad that in recent years the pronouns they/them can be put into good use.
That ending though.
The end pic scared me
Earthquake Pug Same
I laughed so hard medusa's face is so funny 😆
Crona is a boy in the *ENGLISH* anime, and in the manga/japanese anime he's simply referred to as "it"
In the Japanese Anime Crona is referred to as a boy and a girl because no one is sure of his/her gender. And in the English dub, when Crona is first seen, a note comes up saying that Crona is referred to as a boy because they didn't want to keep changing the word used and they are unsure of Crona's gender
Cronas gender is hideyoshi
oh well. i still like to refer to crona as "they/them"
Is Crona a boy or a girl?
The question is: Who cares?
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Axrita "I'm not homophobic BUT...."
boy if you don't
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+Axrita u r not homophobic but you find it disturbing. Lmao that is exactly what we call homophobia.
I've just always thought Crona was a guy because that's how I was introduced to him.
hey it's me In the manga he is a she but in anime he is a he and creator also said that he is genderless
Same. When I was first introduced to Crona they refered to them as a dude, so I thought and stuck with the idea that Crona is a guy for a while until the whole gender debate. Now it’s either “them” or “he”. owo
@@zuzu6864 When the creator says he's genderless, then how is he male in the anime and female in the manga? That doesn't make sense
Me too
Via this logic, Kirito would be a girl for the first half of Sword Art Online II
+wessltov Not really. In SAO, Kirito is definitely a guy. People mistake him for a female because of his avatar.
+wessltov The Avatar for Kirito in Season 2 looked like a girl but actually was a boy. And why bring SAO into this?
MajorLeagueGamer838 If you call someone a girl just because people refer to them as such, doesn't neccessarily mean you're right
wessltov True. But the thing is, in SAO's case, you specifically know that Kirito is being mistaken for the wrong gender. In Crona's case, it's never revealed.
@@EightThreeEight that was in GGO not SAO
The author of the manga purposely left Crona's gender ambiguous. That's actually easier to do in japanese since they have neutral pronouns, whereas in english we are forced to choose between either 'he' or 'she'. The translation of the manga I read referred to Crona as a girl, and so did most of the subs I watched for the anime. I don't think it really matters anyway, because Crona doesn't act any more like one than the other, so everyone can just take their pick depending on what they prefer (me, girl, simply because I've gotten used to it). You can consider the 'English Dub Crona' a boy, since they decided to use male pronouns.
Actually, Funimation just used male pronouns with Crona because they thought using "it" and "they" would be insulting to the character. Officially, Crona's gender is undetermined.
I feel so bad for Crona. I wish I could just hug Crona
ok, but what about this: Agender
That's my headcanon at least.
yes yes very good 👏👏👏
People aren't born agender
@@beastinout7291 actually some people are.
@@woweewow4323 gender and sex are 2 different things no one is born with a gender or sexual orientation, you grow into both.
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I think Crona wears the dress and acts girly because Medusa wanted a daughter and not a son
I prefer to keep Crona genderless. ^u^
Also, just to say to everyone... you know when someone goes up to a dog and its owner... and you know when that someone says "Aw, HE'S so cute!"? That's because they are unaware of its gender, and call it a he, because, again they are unaware of its true gender. Yep. Same with Crona. Everybody is unaware of its gender, so they call it a he.
I'll best be going now. This one grows tired...
@@BleuEri the author said they don't know what gender crona is. so crona is undefined
@@BleuEri biological genders, yes. and then there is non-binary, not gender at all.
Tired and stupid.
crona isn’t an it, they are a they the reason they didn’t call them “it” is because i’m pretty sure in japan its super rude to do so
You are missing a really important scene, when Crona first meets Maka in the church place, he says: "I don't know how to interact with girls", then says something like I want to stroke her hair, but I cant exactly remember. The fact that he would notice that Maka is different coz she's a girl and have such curiousity in her shows that hes a guy. Well that's what I think anyway.
That's what I think too. I think Crona is a boy but since he was raised by Medusa he had no sense of self so he was ambiguous and wore a dress cuz Medusa made him. And when he doesn't wear the dress anymore he switches to a boys uniform. Even if the gender is supposed to be ambiguous in the Japanese translation, I think that's what makes sthe most sense. The intent from the author was to show that Crona has no sense of self because of Medusa.
they’re non-binary just leave it as that.
Crona is actually a boy but Medusa wanted a girl so she treated him as a girl.
Thats what i was thinking
I really don't think she'd care if it came out a non-binary feminist furry with buttons instead of eyes as long as she could mentally break it to make it do whatever she wanted, but it's an interesting theory.
PoisonedAMV's! lmao just like Juuzou Suzuya
JEEZ!!! THAT İS NOT TRUE!!!!The word 'Crona' ITSELF means no gender. They just refer to Crona as a boy. in the anime but adressed him as a girl in the manga. The writer confirmed Crona isn't gendered at all. They just decided to translate Crona to be a boy since we don't have official gender neutral pronouns in English.
Not true at all it has been confirmed that Crona is nether a girl nor a boy
in the manga Crona is a she, in the anime Crona is a he. there are now 3 genders. Male, Female, Crona. MAKE UP YO MIND!!!
+Stingray Stampeed holy fuck.
really lol
i need to read the manga xD
still think crona is adorable af
+Stingray Stampeed xD
Contrary to popular belief, The idea in which "Crona is a male in the anime but female in the manga." is false. Both official translations from Funimation and Yen Press use male pronouns and noted to not be the sex of the character. In the English dub of the anime, male pronouns are used to refer to Crona, but this does not mean Crona is male. Funimation admitted that they had to settle with this rule because they felt that "it" would have been insulting to Crona as a character. The same rule applies to the Yen Press translation of the manga. Atsushi Okubo stated himself that Crona's sex is unknown.
That’s false.
This is just the ENGLISH DUB
I'm seeing alot of different things written. But what most of you forgot is that in Japan, pronouns dont exist in the way they do here. Gender isnt commonly used in sentences. In the english dub of the anime, they decided to add male pronouns. In the manga they used female pronouns. But it's official, Crona has no set gender. Is it really so hard to exept? Because non-binary people are real.
The first(and only I'm seen him far) I was so confused. At first I thought it was a bot because of the pink hair and since Crona has kind of high voice, but then I heard Soul or Maka call Crona a dude and I was like WTF its a dude? So I looked it up and I found a lot of different answers which confused me even more.
I still like Crona a lot even though he/she creeped me out a bit when I first saw he/she, I took an immediate liking to him/her.
Anime:boy
Manga:girl
That's how I go by.
I don't care if Crona is a boy, I still love him with all my heart, I just want to hug him and tell him he's cute and sweet and perfect in every way!
According to English, when you don't know a person's gender, "He" would be the normal pronoun.
And in case you forgot, dubs like to change things
The problem with this is that it's the English dub in the Japanese version they refer to Crona using both feminine and masculine ways of speaking which is why they say unknown. A lot of people think Crona's just a weak timid boy but others think a weak timid girl which is why she/he looks up to Maka throughout the series for her strength and not one of the boys.
I guess the manga just wanted a yuri relationshi-
Uh.. Nevermind.
What?
DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER?!?!?!
That part at the end scared me for a second 😂
I always thought of him as a boy and that's how he'll always be to myself and nobody shall change my mind. Not even if it ever came to be when the creator tell us and he happens to be a she, I won't believe it. He just doesn't shout out girl to me with the facial features. That's only my opinion.
i always thought crona to be more of a she but yeah i agree im staying with my opinion even if they change crona to a male
Yue Mcoy i dont see the she except the dress that's it just sayin 😥 but whatever floats your boat
Ps: Chicken is good
chicken is good and yeah it floats my boat so im gonna make the moat
Same though. Nothing about Crona to me except for the robe/dress makes me see any girly features to point out the fact that they’re a female, so that’s why I sometimes refer to Crona as a male and almost never a female.
It’s a boy because I know for a fact anime girls only have big coconuts crona virus do not tho so it boy
why
is there still a debate on this
the manga creator himself said Crona was genderless
the only problem is that English doesn't really have gernder-neutral pronouns, so it's easier to call refer to Crona as "he" (in the original Japanese manga, Crona's referred to pretty gender-neutrally...)
besides, isn't Crona the only one who can say? why would other characters talking about Crona prove anything...
(and Medusa I guess...but even she calls Crona an "it" because she's a cruel bitch .-.)
so to end this...Crona is genderless. Not a boy or a girl.
But wait, if Crona is Genderless, why didn't they just use Agender pronouns?
Thank you so much for making this video I was so triggered when people kept saying the anime version of crona was still a girl
What's with the ending picture? Medusa gives me nightmares now...
Everyone knows he is a boy....they even said he was a boy in the show
Yes maybe in the dub but in the original it hasn't a gender. They use a gender neutral pronoun there, but funimaton thought it would be an insult for chrona to call her/him it. So they used he.
+Kathlyn Perellãno In the Japanese version of the anime and manga they use male pronouns
+Nightcore Psyco Technically, women also use male pronouns, and male pronouns are also used by gender neutral individuals. Either way, the author has actually come out and said that Crona has no gender and that any translation that states that Crona is a 'he' are incorrect and to be disregarded as non-canon. It's all on the wiki.
Sarah Johnston The author stated that crona has no canon gender. However, He is reffered to using male pronouns. Whether or not he is a biological male is unconfirmed. The male pronoun thing is true, at least in the subbed/dubbed version of the anime. (I haven't personally read the manga)
Nightcore Psyco Yes, but as I said, male pronouns can be used by females and gender neutral individuals.
>Reading into a dub
HAHAHA
>trying to greentext on youtube.
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Is the subbs version I'm watching they start off calling Crona "he", but the later subbs (done by different people I assume) suddenly started calling Crona "she". The first clip shown above said "she" in my version.
this whole debate was so cringe I forgot that people literally just decided to assign a gender to a person that literally was confirmed to not have one
has anyone thought that maybe crona is trans-gender? just think about it.
i agree and thats a really good reason why corona is just "gender less"
It seems to me that they're genderless. That is, after all, what the creator said.
Crona is the 3rd gender of the world. Plus it's very possible that Crona was created as an experiment by Medusa so Crona could have no gender
+MrLandshark2002 i always thought Crona was some sort of a fem-boy type character. Could be wrong, idk.
but yeh, i always assumed he was a girly type of male.
transgeder is a gender
Finally there is your proof! >:3
i see now
Actually in the anime he is a boy but manga crona is a girl
The Creator Decided to Say He As It Would Be Insulting To The Character To Say It So Its Undecided Still
Lol
Yes, there is many parts where he is said as he, Medusa even calls him her son in one part
He/She/It, whatever! I just love this character Crona!
When you think the anime is more cannon than the manga
I wonder what song that was in the ending with that frog thing
You may have a point, but in the anime (I watched the English subbed version) Crona is called "Medusa's son" and Medusa also states at several points in the series that Crona is her son.
the face medusa made at the end scared me
that last part scared the crap out of me
thank you. a lot of ppl are mistaking it for a dress. i honestly thought from the beginning that crona was a boy, despite the voice actor and hair. i also thought he had feelings for maka. however, when netflix referred to him as "she" i made this face :O. it's undetermined, but that doesn't matter. i think it's a good think the writer did this. firstly, it's a good business strategy. also, it makes a point about gender and sexuality. i wonder if there are other countries debating on this.
I wouldn't quote me on it because I maybe remembering this wrong. But during one of the episode commentaries (that is a bonus feature on the DVDs) it was stated by the English director that Crona doesn't actually have a given gender, however they used "he" and "him" because it would make the translations awkward to avoid gender terminology and that it would be too dehumanising to refer to him as "it" or "they". But once again I wouldn't quote me on it.
What's the frogs name again? I forgot
I herd the that in the English version hes a boy in the Japanese version hes a girl and besides on his/her wiki it says genderless
You think this will stop me from making crona my waifu?
apparently the producers or whoever it was of soul eater said it wasn't supposed to be known whether crona is male or female but why do all the characters refer to him as a he (i read it on the wiki)
there are acutely moments were it says she in the same episode it's really weird so i ignore him/her mostly
What episode is this?? 😂
Its the way its translated, in the Japanese he is a girl. But they changed it in translation, cause the original subtitles say she. But they change the dialog to make it make more sense, stuff does not always translate perfectly.
Honestly Crona being referred to as a male in the dub helped me discover that I am bi
We need to give the fans something to fight about
LMFAO! You should DEFINITELY PUT A SCREAM FOR THAT RANDOM MEDUSA MOMENT AT THE END! xD It would scare errbody:P
I was about to comment about Crona until the picture of Medusa scared the crap out of me at the very end
There should be a Q and A with Atsushi Ohkubo, So that we can ask if Crona is a boy or girl
I think the subtitles call Crona a she.
i think not even the other characters know about Crona’s gender. Patty even said something like ‘I don’t know if this kid is a boy or a girl’ once, so...
There is "he" and "she" in Japan, but in the Japanese original they say something that translates into "that kid" or "that child". For the sake of better sentence flow they revised it to "he" in English.
You can't say that "according to the anime its a "he" " just because of the way they refered to Crona in the dubs. It depends on the translators, for example if you watch it with subs most people write a "she" (and in the manga as well) but since the more popular translations write Crona as a "he" they ended up putting it like that in the dubs. Anyway I don't think the author ever specified the gendre (check out the wiki on Soul Eater) so its kinda meaningless to argue about it (like I've seen in some comments).
The creator never gave corona a gender. The people who did the dub just said fuck it and called corona a he.
almost when Crone appeared from some episodes, Medusa even says, "he" that the day meet of the kishin involved...
In, the manga it says female, as well as the japanese dub. In the funimation english dubs and subs however, it says male. On the wiki it says unknown and in an interview with the creator it was stated to be 'undecided'. So basically, crona's gender can be up to the viewer to distinguish. Kind of like hanji from attack on titan (in the manga at least)
It was a problem of translation?
Crona is a male in the TV series while Crona is a female in the comic series. I learned this from my awesome friend.
Since this is the dubbed, the people who wrote the English version aren't in close contact with the actual Japanese director, and probably just went their own way while writing the script.
there is also the fact that when they all had a party, all the girls wore dresses, while the boys wore a shirt and pants. crona wore a shirt and pants
In the subbed version, Crona was called a girl a few times when he was first introduced.
But Crona's a girl in the manga and a boy in the anime
correct me if im wrong but im wrong but in the manga doesn't Medusa refer to Crona as her sun.
son*
i think the creators of soul eater made the story first then named everybody, don't think so, then why did they name MEDusa MEDusa, get it?!? MEDusa
Englisch dubbing isn´t any proof :D :D They even dubbed Envy from FMA as a girl in other language
I don't care a whole lot, but in the Keshans shrine, ragnorak tried to pull up his "skirt" and when it shows two of the death scythes in the bathroom it shows the woman's bathroom symbol on the door and it looks exactly like Crona.
in the version that everyone speaks japanzize they call crona an it and in the Spanish dub they call crona a she crona is many different genders it just depends on the language
What's the song at 00:48
Didn't you read the description?
It said to not say that, and you're being quite rude to do so.
And you wonder why Professor Oak asks if your a boy or a girl.
Why is Erika CGI?
Funimation can't translate its never specified in the Japanese dub
WTF was that at the end?
More specific:
The English translations of the manga and anime say A and B respectively, Whereas the original Japanese versions also say ABBA.
When Black Star asked Maka how she can tell there was awkward silence 🤔
I guess you're right, I didn't even consider "it" because it's usually an object. Thank you for correcting me on that.
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I believe that the reason Corna is referred to as a he in the anime is because it's translated from a neutral noun in Japanese, and they just decided to translate it into he.
Idk. It's just what I've heard.
Atsushi Ōkubo never confirmed Crona's gender. Its still unknown till this very day.
manga- up to the fans
anime- unknown or both OR up to the fans
In the anime, he refers at itself with "Boku" which
is "I" for the boys.
Id just like to say that nothing is confirmed in the manga, some fan translations use she or he out of preference. Frankly Id say those are bad translations, the author wants it to be unknown so the translators should be conveying that intent
Also I think around episode 20-21 Ragnarok called him a pansy for wearing a dress
He is Soul Eater's Puar, if you have ever read dbz you would understand the reference, honestly I'm fine with him just being ambiguous (un know gender) it honestly doesn't matter. It's even better because he/she makes a character anyone can relate to, which is actually quite a great idea from the mangaka (the manga author)
No one reads the samn description smh
Ok Cona's status"
Manga: Girl
Acording to wiki: UNkown
Japanese: Girl
English Dub: Boy
Other language dub: I HAVE NO FRINKING IDEA :3
Done
also in band 21 von soul eater wird öfters "ihn" erwähnt... chrona ist also ein junge.