I’ve never tried ro water but I’d only use it if I needed to soften my water for a curtain type of fish that really needs that type of water. Love these experiments, please keep doing them.
Great experiment. Love it!. I have a tap water with Gh13 and Kh8 and there are basically 2 plants i have problems with. 1. Staurogyne repens. (Love this plant, but have trouble with it) 2. Alternathera reineckii mini. Other, more demanding plants are very healthy, so i guess its mostly problem with water hardness.
Your tap water is pretty good to begin with: around my place it is extremely harder, to the point that you can't even measure the hardness (both gh and kh) with strips. Of course this experiment doesn't apply everywhere and if I were to do it I bet I'd have way different results (more BBA, stunted plants).
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Yep, where I'm from it's gH 18, and kH 13. Doing such a test here RO water would win. That's why I'm using RO water.
Thanks mate for all the great work you put....speaks of the pure passion you have for hobby... My tap water has some unknown minerals/compounds which harm the plants and cause algae as well. Probably some algae spores etc. Hence I use RO to escape that problem and not really for lowering the KH...I'm more inclined towards the purity of the RO water actually....
I am surprised at how little the differences are! Guess I don't need RO after all! Thanks as always for the experiment and looking forward to the new one!
It really depends on your tap water. I live in an area where my tap water is good (soft). I read KH 1, GH 4 and pH 7 from the tap. I add salty shrimp minerals to my tanks because I keep shrimps in all of them and they're doing great. So are the fish and plants. Although, I did have issues with pH swings from fluval stratum as it has buffers to lower pH. If your water is already soft like mine, it's going to crash the pH to 6 or lower. So I have to add crushed coral periodically in my tanks to keep them stable at pH7. I was contemplating getting a RO Buddie but it doesn't look like it's worth it for me. Some folks absolutely need RO water because their tap water isn't ideal for aquariums or the fish they keep.
@@KasyMini thanks for the tip. My water is also soft like yours but the rocks in my take fluctuate the KH and GH a whole lot. Luckily for me, I don't have needy plants in my tank and everything turned out fine for the first 2 years. My tank is about to mark it's 3rd year and now I have major algae issues, mostly because I have been very negligent and haven't been keeping up with water changes. Might consider renewing the tank, but boy this hobby sure costs a lot😅
i always wanted to do a plant race, pick 4 fast growing / fast spreading or different method of spreading plants. put them in the each corner, put equal obstacles in place to see if they go around or under it and see which one reaches middle first or out grows the other ones. its sound silly but its nice to see which one would be the best buy or which can co-exist
I’d like to see a high fertiliser dosing compared to a minimal fertiliser dosing. I am always conflicted between those that advise to dose heavy and those who advise to dose light. With CO2, and be interesting as to the growth and maintenance experiences with each approach.
Very great and informative video. I feel key things for the success of these two tanks besides your skill level, are a rich substrate and select healthy plants that you can grow successfully, thatll make it easier. Great work, reminds me time to refill my co2 bottle, love how a little splash of cp2 makes a huge difference.
I always like these videos. Would like to see EI vs PPS dosing to see if there's a difference. I have a large tank and try and limit water changes so I try and go with the lean PPS system. Would be cool to see if there's a difference though.
Hi from France! I'm a big fan of your videos, thanks for it! Didn't the aquasoil falsed this experiment? As it will lower the kh and ph of your tap water tank, don't you end up with the same parameters in both tanks?! After a certain time (longer than 5 weeks) and multiple water changes, the aquasoil in the tap water tank would be saturated, and thats when the kh and ph would rise, and where you would see a difference with the RO tank. But not before that. I think if you did the same experiment with a neutral substrate, the result would have been different 🙂 (Excuse my english i hope it's understandable 😅) Thanks again for all the knowledge sharing!
very great project, I tried ro water many times with diffrence situations. At the point you can see any visible lime film on the watersurface to the glas, it´s the sweetspot for waterparameters and plantgrow. I show a specific problem with microsorum ferns and to hard water on my chanel . The plants in this comparison show not a big diffrence at ol, to go with a ro system based on your tap water. Thanks for this video
It would be interesting to see your tap water's parameters. My tap water is super chlorinated with dangerous levels of ammonia and very hard, so I am using RO water and adding Equilibrium as needed.
Hi! Great job! But i think reason of this results in soil, because soil make wather a little bit softer. In RO wather soil dont change PH, KH, or do this not so fast like in Hard wather. And usually this effect work in one year or less in difference of hardness wather and tupe of soil. Thank you!
I really appreciate all the work you put into your videos. Thank you for another great one. I use tap water for my tanks, but I do think in my case, RO would work better. I'm just too lazy and cheap lol. Take care,
I use tap water no co2 and sand only and my planted tank is doing great , i use root tabs and liquid ferts
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Met RO water ga je wel langer de voordelen van de pH verlagende eigenschappen van de soil bewaren. Ik verwacht op lange termijn, als de soil is verzadigd en de KH gaat oplopen, dat je toch wel verschillen gaat zien in de kwaliteit van planten. Wellicht een leuk experiment
hey bud, I think RO would benefit people with extremely hard Tap water, otherwise seems like an overkill. Love these comparison vids we get to learn so much. Also what intensity are you running the Chirios at before the change?
The thing is not all of us have the same tap water. Southern California USA water it like liquid rock. Ph 7.5 and tds 350 and up. The harder the water makes it hard for plants to absorb co2 and fertilizer. It just all depends on the quality of the water in your region
Nice video dude. Your tap water is soft enough for most plants and fishes. I wish i have so a soft tap water xD My tap water have a GH of 18! lol I must use RO cause my fishes need soft water .
Hi. Quite surprising so little difference. My tapwater has a pH 8.5 Perhaps then it will make a difference. And good to know that tapwater in Holland is very high quality. That could be different in other countries and then RO water might make a difference too.
I suggest u do an experiment using WRGB flood lights as the lights for your aquarium. I want to know how that experiment will go and how will the lights affect the growth of the plants.☺️
Your tap water is soft compared to mine. Mine comes out of the tap here in Phoenix, Arizona at over 600 tds. I just installed a RO system and looking forward to seeing if I can have better luck with my plants.
Tap water can be anything from acid soft water to base high PH and hard calcified water...RO provide a common base line to start from. That is aspecially true for countries with less rain and or only rain in the winter. Where I live its a mixture of desalination and dirty underground water by the way.
Thanks for sharing your results I think the test was conclusive for your situation. But....lol! I think the issue that most hobbyists run into, is the unknown. And how do we deal with that. Which you do not address. The people who show interest in RO units have specific issues, and they are trying to use their limited funds in the most effective way possible. Sure, the seasoned hobbyist can try 5 to 6 things without any monetary outlay, because we have bought those items previously and they are just laying around. But, new hobbyist don't have that luxury. Most people are buying bottled water, to drink, because we don't trust the stuff coming out of the tap. But, we want to make our fish swim in it every day? RO water gives a solid base line to start with, and eliminates the differences between someone living in Bombay from someone living in Tulsa. RO water may be a benefit to the hobby the same way CO2 is. By maximizing our chances of success and minimizing the variables that limit said success. All we learned from this experiment is that you do not have the same issues we do. @MJ Aquascaping: My challenge to you is to consider this and maybe give some alternatives. How you do this without donning a lab coat and boring everyone to death, is of coarse, the real challenge. I have faith in you. I've got nothing but respect for what you do. Regardless of what you do with this challenge. Thank you for your mission, and your videos. I think you have already set yourself as a leading voice in the industry.
nice informative video. I noticed the tank with tap water is pearling nicely.. but in the case of RO water tank there is no visible pearling. your comments pls.
Is that a Horn Nerite Clithon snail? How do you keep it from crawling out? I have nerites in framed tanks and they generally don't crawl out, but I put them in a frameless tank they immediately climb out to their doom.
I live in Califorania, general water pH is 7.8 I think. I have RO water system in the kitchen, however water coming out of that still have pH of 7.8. Is my system even doing any work? Is it same to use those water in my tanks? It does make the water take different.
Hi, thanx 4 all your videos buddy. Very inspiring. Can I just ask you about that inflow and outflow pipes using here? I have the same filter and the original pipes are just not nice. Thanx for answer. Keep it up
No matter what I do in my 75 gal my plants grow dense, lots of new leaf growth, and my jungle val shoots runners out and grows a new group like every other day, but nothing will grow tall. also on the swords like I said they will grow new leaves out the center , but they wont get tall and they start to die off after a week or so. I use tap water the runs through a carbon filter (like the under the sink tap purification filter) I have co2 injection. excellent filtration and dose with seachem iron, potassium and some micro's . I have decent lights , maybe thats the issue? I use a hygerr 75w 48" light with the built in timer . lights run about 8 hours a day, co2 in on 1.25 hours b4 lights, off 1 hour before lights off. water temp is 78f . only thing might be my tap water is alittle on the harder side but my drop checker shows co2 levels are ok. Do you think i should invest in more lights or a more powerful one? even the fluval planteds 3.0 that is tripple the price than the hygger is same watts.
It will give you benefits if the tap water you have is not sufficient. In some places around the world, the tap water is almost unusable. The RO water is a must.
The issue with tap water comes only in places where the water is very hard and chlorine and chloramine is added a lot like the place I live in the Tap water tds goes above 280 and don't know what is in the water.. so if you're looking to provide the plants the nutrients they need in a limited amount and wants to keep the water soft in situations like this RO is the best option.
hey Mark, can you try normal vs a tank with tannens in it? like catappa, elzenproppen, lotuspods etc. i know its healthy for the fishes,but do the plants do better too because of the good bacteria and tannens it releases?
Probably there are trace elements of copper and chlorine which are in acceptable range for shrimps in your tap water. Which also acts as algicide and reduce algae.
The ppm of my tap water is close to 400 so I use ro water which is less than 0.07 usd (5 rs) I have had amazing results with my planted tank with no melts and calcium deposit congrats on the big shallow huge fan from India
So at the end of the day, water that comes out of the tap or an RO machine is still H2O. I am curious about why the RO scape had more problems with algae than the tap water scape
Would be interesting to see the same experiment without CO2. Perhaps the CO2 is impacting the pH in the tap water aquarium to make things easier for the plants? Would be nice to know what the parameters are a few days after the water change.
Maybe the green dust is a result of the RO being better at pulling nutrient from the substrate? The lower ph and lack of other tds makes that water more like an empty sponge, has more room to pull and dissolve out nutrients, the more acidic nature maybe pulls iron from the substrate also in a more pronounced way. The myrio results seem to support this, because every myrio I know are all extremely nutrient hungry.
Strong filtration with good media (canister filter) VS no filter/basic filter with no media. Is the beneficial bacteria on the tank itself(soil, hardscape) enough for filtration or does the canister filters promoted by YT channels and brands necessary for a proper aquascape....
Tap vs Ro only matters when you need to have low Gh and Kh for Syngonanthus plants or the Ca/Mg in Tap is high or bad ratio, or Tap is bad quality due to Heavy Cu, Fe presence in my opinion. Im using only RO, due to plants requiring low KH.
You should experiment seiryu stone in Ro water. I wanted to use Seiryu stone in my hardscape but seiryu is Not inert so it will buffer the water chemistry so that the problem
Even I faced same issue with ro water my kh is 2 and gh is 8 , I tried all methods but dust algae wouldn't stop then when I used tap water I didn't get any dust algae.
Should do a side by side of low tech with RO vs tap, essentially your mitgating the availability of nutrients with Co2, as its easier for them to absorb nutrients by changing the carbonates in the water. harder to tell the difference high tech va high tech. I bet with a low tech setup you will notice much more of a change.
I have two huge rain collection tanks & have been trying to find a video like this with rain v tap water. I’m not very smart when it comes to water parameters. I do check my water regularly, but only ever go off the printed colour chart & it’s usually normal. Do you think rain water is similar to the RO water? Love your experiments ❤️🇦🇺
MJ the tap water in our country is justäa about the best in the world. Unless you need soft water. Say when you wanna play with some Parospromenus. Which i think you should
Some plants feed largely through leaves, some largely roots, crypts the latter, many stems the former. All plants can be grown in small sized gravel with tab nutrition added. Special aquarium soil products are better, easier to plant into and better store of minerals and no danger of scraping the glass but of course it can become messy after the baked pellet shape deteriorates over time. Tanks that are left to run for a decade or so, normally, at the very least, have a gravel topping. Hope that helps.
RO water is not necessary unless you have extremely high or low PH in your natural tap water, additionally if you live in a 3rd world country and have dirty water, then its probably not going to be good for your aquarium either and RO will clean the water up. I don't think RO has any real benefits for plants, i think it is clearly important for fish breeding because it simulates rain(distilled water), and certain species of fish that need extreme PH environments. overall it confirmed what i believed, but i was still very interested to see the results, because i am wrong sometimes and its always good to experiment. thank you for the time and effort you put into these tests.
@@MJAquascaping Thanks for the reply. I was curious because my well water is 75 and I thought it was really hard. It has a lot of iron in it and detectable nitrates 25-50ppm. If I don't do water changes my tanks stay clear but if I do it looks like it's cycling again. Suggestions?
we already know what the aquasoil will do so just the sand or natural gravel should be tested. though it is obvious what will happen. The plants that need nutrients from the substrate won't grow as well.
I think it's not about the plant grow when it comes to source of water. I would say using RO water makes you safer than tape water, when you are sure that RO is completely clean. In the other way, could happen something like one day your water source gets some toxins and you don't know about it. Would be problem after that.
I think your tap might just be good enough but in my case I am setting up an ro system simply because my tap is 330ppm+ hardness and 8.2 ph. Overall just too many well water things that I don’t want
Just getting back in to aqua scaping after a 15 year break. I've had my 120P up for about a month now. I tried to start with tap water and unfortunately the city uses so much chloramine I was having to use double to triple the recommended dose to remove it. I decided to go RO, the units have come down in price over the last decade and I have the space for a 30gal storage tank. RO water has not been with out challenges, getting the re-mineralizing correct has not been easy and I'm sad to say I lost a hand full of shrimp and snails in the process. I started with SeaChem equilibrium. Problem is that while it will raise GH it does almost nothing for KH. Since I have only dragon stone in my tank I was having issues with pH crashing. I see that you are using salty shrimp and I will be switching to GH + KH it on my next water change. So this is just a warning to those out there, just because something is fancier or more expensive doesn't make it any better. I would say if you have a good tap water supply stick with it and only use RO if you absolutely need to.
If you were able to, how did you fix the KH? I'm doing a 60P with ro water and dragon stone. In addition to equilibrium I got the alkaline buffer to hopefully prevent crashes
@@jacksonbishopp2719 I did a 50% water change this past weekend and remineralized with the Saltyshrimp GH&KH+. Used 22.6g for 30gal of water. This gave me a 6dGH and 3dKH and a pH of 7.2. I thought that I had found my answer. The next day my tank was back down to a pH of 6.9 and 1-2dKH. I only have dragon stone which will not raise KH. If you have any kind of stone in your hard scape that has limestone in you will probably not face this issue. I not sure where the KH is going. I read that plants can use when there is a lack of co2 but since I’m injecting co2 I don’t believe this to be the case. I have ordered some course aragonite sand and will place some in a filter bag in one of my filters to try and slowly raise my KH or off set what is getting taken up. If I can’t get the KH to stay at 3dKH I will likely just deal with it for now. I will inject less CO2 so that my pH drops from 6.8 to 6.3 during the photo period, not the best but I would rather a stable KH and not have to add buffer everyday.
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I’ve never tried ro water but I’d only use it if I needed to soften my water for a curtain type of fish that really needs that type of water. Love these experiments, please keep doing them.
It's been a long time since the first video about this and I am not disappointed!
Great experiment. Love it!. I have a tap water with Gh13 and Kh8 and there are basically 2 plants i have problems with. 1. Staurogyne repens. (Love this plant, but have trouble with it) 2. Alternathera reineckii mini. Other, more demanding plants are very healthy, so i guess its mostly problem with water hardness.
Repens is not friend of phosphates. I have these problem when the water is too much hard. )))
Your tap water is pretty good to begin with: around my place it is extremely harder, to the point that you can't even measure the hardness (both gh and kh) with strips. Of course this experiment doesn't apply everywhere and if I were to do it I bet I'd have way different results (more BBA, stunted plants).
Yep, where I'm from it's gH 18, and kH 13.
Doing such a test here RO water would win. That's why I'm using RO water.
Wow that last tank is amazing! It reminds me of a trail through dense woods.. absolutely love it ❤
Thanks mate for all the great work you put....speaks of the pure passion you have for hobby...
My tap water has some unknown minerals/compounds which harm the plants and cause algae as well. Probably some algae spores etc.
Hence I use RO to escape that problem and not really for lowering the KH...I'm more inclined towards the purity of the RO water actually....
I am surprised at how little the differences are! Guess I don't need RO after all! Thanks as always for the experiment and looking forward to the new one!
If you have good tap water like him. Mine are very very hard.
It really depends on your tap water. I live in an area where my tap water is good (soft). I read KH 1, GH 4 and pH 7 from the tap. I add salty shrimp minerals to my tanks because I keep shrimps in all of them and they're doing great. So are the fish and plants. Although, I did have issues with pH swings from fluval stratum as it has buffers to lower pH. If your water is already soft like mine, it's going to crash the pH to 6 or lower. So I have to add crushed coral periodically in my tanks to keep them stable at pH7. I was contemplating getting a RO Buddie but it doesn't look like it's worth it for me. Some folks absolutely need RO water because their tap water isn't ideal for aquariums or the fish they keep.
@@KasyMini thanks for the tip. My water is also soft like yours but the rocks in my take fluctuate the KH and GH a whole lot. Luckily for me, I don't have needy plants in my tank and everything turned out fine for the first 2 years. My tank is about to mark it's 3rd year and now I have major algae issues, mostly because I have been very negligent and haven't been keeping up with water changes. Might consider renewing the tank, but boy this hobby sure costs a lot😅
i always wanted to do a plant race, pick 4 fast growing / fast spreading or different method of spreading plants.
put them in the each corner, put equal obstacles in place to see if they go around or under it and see which one reaches middle first or out grows the other ones.
its sound silly but its nice to see which one would be the best buy or which can co-exist
Love your videos! Science leading the way!
Appreciated the side-by-side comparison. Looking forward to the next experiment 👍
Thanks Mark, been really keen to see the results of this one 👍
I’d like to see a high fertiliser dosing compared to a minimal fertiliser dosing. I am always conflicted between those that advise to dose heavy and those who advise to dose light. With CO2, and be interesting as to the growth and maintenance experiences with each approach.
I have to agree my tank is doing great with RO water with its regular doses of fertilizer, it’s spreading and growing a lot. It’s doing pretty well.
Keep up the good work😋💪💪
Your experiments are so important man.. I hope you understand that.
Nice, am early! Would want to see old used aquasoil vs brand new aquasoil. not sure about the liquid ferts dosing tho.
Very great and informative video. I feel key things for the success of these two tanks besides your skill level, are a rich substrate and select healthy plants that you can grow successfully, thatll make it easier. Great work, reminds me time to refill my co2 bottle, love how a little splash of cp2 makes a huge difference.
I always like these videos. Would like to see EI vs PPS dosing to see if there's a difference. I have a large tank and try and limit water changes so I try and go with the lean PPS system. Would be cool to see if there's a difference though.
Hi from France!
I'm a big fan of your videos, thanks for it!
Didn't the aquasoil falsed this experiment? As it will lower the kh and ph of your tap water tank, don't you end up with the same parameters in both tanks?!
After a certain time (longer than 5 weeks) and multiple water changes, the aquasoil in the tap water tank would be saturated, and thats when the kh and ph would rise, and where you would see a difference with the RO tank. But not before that.
I think if you did the same experiment with a neutral substrate, the result would have been different 🙂
(Excuse my english i hope it's understandable 😅)
Thanks again for all the knowledge sharing!
very great project, I tried ro water many times with diffrence situations. At the point you can see any visible lime film on the watersurface to the glas, it´s the sweetspot for waterparameters and plantgrow.
I show a specific problem with microsorum ferns and to hard water on my chanel . The plants in this comparison show not a big diffrence at ol, to go with a ro system based on your tap water.
Thanks for this video
Same experience with me, the Staurogyne Repens grow much more heathy in RO water (low TDS)
It would be interesting to see your tap water's parameters. My tap water is super chlorinated with dangerous levels of ammonia and very hard, so I am using RO water and adding Equilibrium as needed.
Hi! Great job! But i think reason of this results in soil, because soil make wather a little bit softer. In RO wather soil dont change PH, KH, or do this not so fast like in Hard wather. And usually this effect work in one year or less in difference of hardness wather and tupe of soil. Thank you!
I mix Tap water with remineralized RO water . since my tap water is hard , i mix them to bring them to a ideal kH , ph for my plants .
Thanks alot , i saved like 300$ on RO system
I really appreciate all the work you put into your videos. Thank you for another great one. I use tap water for my tanks, but I do think in my case, RO would work better. I'm just too lazy and cheap lol. Take care,
Very nice and enjoyable thank you for your post sir
I use tap water no co2 and sand only and my planted tank is doing great , i use root tabs and liquid ferts
Met RO water ga je wel langer de voordelen van de pH verlagende eigenschappen van de soil bewaren.
Ik verwacht op lange termijn, als de soil is verzadigd en de KH gaat oplopen, dat je toch wel verschillen gaat zien in de kwaliteit van planten. Wellicht een leuk experiment
hey bud, I think RO would benefit people with extremely hard Tap water, otherwise seems like an overkill. Love these comparison vids we get to learn so much.
Also what intensity are you running the Chirios at before the change?
I think when I started the experiment they were running on 50%, then after a few weeks I bumped it up to 60% and right now it's on 70%
@@MJAquascaping what is the kelvin? Or is it just manual setting by color?
The thing is not all of us have the same tap water. Southern California USA water it like liquid rock. Ph 7.5 and tds 350 and up. The harder the water makes it hard for plants to absorb co2 and fertilizer. It just all depends on the quality of the water in your region
Bump up the gh and kh in the tapwater even more! would love to see those results. gh and kh of 15 or something.
Nice video dude. Your tap water is soft enough for most plants and fishes. I wish i have so a soft tap water xD My tap water have a GH of 18! lol I must use RO cause my fishes need soft water .
Thanks for doing this video 🥰
Hi. Quite surprising so little difference. My tapwater has a pH 8.5 Perhaps then it will make a difference. And good to know that tapwater in Holland is very high quality. That could be different in other countries and then RO water might make a difference too.
Pls do Dry start (with complete flooding phase)
Vs
Normal way with CO2
I suggest u do an experiment using WRGB flood lights as the lights for your aquarium. I want to know how that experiment will go and how will the lights affect the growth of the plants.☺️
Your tap water is soft compared to mine. Mine comes out of the tap here in Phoenix, Arizona at over 600 tds. I just installed a RO system and looking forward to seeing if I can have better luck with my plants.
How did it go with the RO water ? I also live in Phoenix
Hmmm good to see such experiments. 👍😍
Nice experience sharing 👍🏻
You know the dwarf Hairgrass, mine is starting to melt/ translucent colour. They will show new growth if everything is in check right thanks
My friend… what size of lily pipes did you use for this canister and what size of hose? Thank you! Greetings from mexico
Tap water can be anything from acid soft water to base high PH and hard calcified water...RO provide a common base line to start from. That is aspecially true for countries with less rain and or only rain in the winter. Where I live its a mixture of desalination and dirty underground water by the way.
Interesting to see the higher PH didn’t had any effect. Do a lean vs EI dosing test, that will be a great test
Thanks for sharing your results I think the test was conclusive for your situation. But....lol! I think the issue that most hobbyists run into, is the unknown. And how do we deal with that. Which you do not address. The people who show interest in RO units have specific issues, and they are trying to use their limited funds in the most effective way possible. Sure, the seasoned hobbyist can try 5 to 6 things without any monetary outlay, because we have bought those items previously and they are just laying around. But, new hobbyist don't have that luxury.
Most people are buying bottled water, to drink, because we don't trust the stuff coming out of the tap. But, we want to make our fish swim in it every day? RO water gives a solid base line to start with, and eliminates the differences between someone living in Bombay from someone living in Tulsa. RO water may be a benefit to the hobby the same way CO2 is. By maximizing our chances of success and minimizing the variables that limit said success. All we learned from this experiment is that you do not have the same issues we do.
@MJ Aquascaping: My challenge to you is to consider this and maybe give some alternatives. How you do this without donning a lab coat and boring everyone to death, is of coarse, the real challenge. I have faith in you.
I've got nothing but respect for what you do. Regardless of what you do with this challenge. Thank you for your mission, and your videos. I think you have already set yourself as a leading voice in the industry.
nice informative video. I noticed the tank with tap water is pearling nicely.. but in the case of RO water tank there is no visible pearling. your comments pls.
Is that a Horn Nerite Clithon snail? How do you keep it from crawling out? I have nerites in framed tanks and they generally don't crawl out, but I put them in a frameless tank they immediately climb out to their doom.
I live in Califorania, general water pH is 7.8 I think. I have RO water system in the kitchen, however water coming out of that still have pH of 7.8. Is my system even doing any work? Is it same to use those water in my tanks? It does make the water take different.
Hi, thanx 4 all your videos buddy. Very inspiring. Can I just ask you about that inflow and outflow pipes using here? I have the same filter and the original pipes are just not nice. Thanx for answer. Keep it up
Inflow www.aquasabi.com/Aqua-Rebell-Glass-mini-Inflow
Outflow www.aquasabi.com/Aqua-Rebell-Glass-Jet-Pipe
@@MJAquascaping thank you so much. ;)
All video very very nice thx bro !
Gostei das explicações como iniciante no aquarismo tenho condições de resolver certos problemas parabéns , Brasil .mg
No matter what I do in my 75 gal my plants grow dense, lots of new leaf growth, and my jungle val shoots runners out and grows a new group like every other day, but nothing will grow tall. also on the swords like I said they will grow new leaves out the center , but they wont get tall and they start to die off after a week or so. I use tap water the runs through a carbon filter (like the under the sink tap purification filter) I have co2 injection. excellent filtration and dose with seachem iron, potassium and some micro's . I have decent lights , maybe thats the issue? I use a hygerr 75w 48" light with the built in timer . lights run about 8 hours a day, co2 in on 1.25 hours b4 lights, off 1 hour before lights off. water temp is 78f . only thing might be my tap water is alittle on the harder side but my drop checker shows co2 levels are ok.
Do you think i should invest in more lights or a more powerful one? even the fluval planteds 3.0 that is tripple the price than the hygger is same watts.
It could be the Magnesium in the remineraliser for the RO water is helping the two plant.
Tap water becomes a issue when your KH is Higher than the GH, especially if your injecting co2 …..Thanks for sharing
You are blessed with good tap water. Mine is very hard and high in nitrates. 😔
Buy ro system
@@justin94431 i did 👍
It will give you benefits if the tap water you have is not sufficient. In some places around the world, the tap water is almost unusable. The RO water is a must.
Hey can I use aquaguard RO water which has Active Copper For My Aquarium will fishes thrive?
Did you measure GH, KH, PH in both tanks?
The issue with tap water comes only in places where the water is very hard and chlorine and chloramine is added a lot like the place I live in the Tap water tds goes above 280 and don't know what is in the water.. so if you're looking to provide the plants the nutrients they need in a limited amount and wants to keep the water soft in situations like this RO is the best option.
Sand with rootabs vs aquasoil would be an interesting one
hey Mark, can you try normal vs a tank with tannens in it? like catappa, elzenproppen, lotuspods etc. i know its healthy for the fishes,but do the plants do better too because of the good bacteria and tannens it releases?
Probably there are trace elements of copper and chlorine which are in acceptable range for shrimps in your tap water. Which also acts as algicide and reduce algae.
One of the best reasons for using RO water is no limescale/water marks on the glass, used to drive me mad
Hey man I really love this video keep it up but I was wondering what light you use
Chihiros A 2 series 361
The ppm of my tap water is close to 400 so I use ro water which is less than 0.07 usd (5 rs) I have had amazing results with my planted tank with no melts and calcium deposit congrats on the big shallow huge fan from India
Ro water under 5 rs lol what?
You don't remineralize it?
Its perfect
Gh and Kh
Bu testi farklı bitkiler ile denermisin sp belem fluvalitis gibi bitkilerde gelişim nasıl olur ?
Hey mate, great job. How about 2 tanks with no co2 one with liquid carbon and another without it?
I use 50% mix of tap and RO water... it creates a more shimmering effect
So at the end of the day, water that comes out of the tap or an RO machine is still H2O. I am curious about why the RO scape had more problems with algae than the tap water scape
Would be interesting to see the same experiment without CO2. Perhaps the CO2 is impacting the pH in the tap water aquarium to make things easier for the plants? Would be nice to know what the parameters are a few days after the water change.
Branded lights (chihiros maybe?) VS DiY lights (LED bulbs?)
How do you manage temperature in your tanks?
Ive been using half RO water since our water source is coming from a deep well. Immensely hard water as my TDS reading comes in at 320+.
Using half RO is pointless
Maybe the green dust is a result of the RO being better at pulling nutrient from the substrate? The lower ph and lack of other tds makes that water more like an empty sponge, has more room to pull and dissolve out nutrients, the more acidic nature maybe pulls iron from the substrate also in a more pronounced way.
The myrio results seem to support this, because every myrio I know are all extremely nutrient hungry.
I may have missed it, but what's your tap water parameters?
I mentioned it in the video 😊 kh 7 ph 8 and gh 9
Chihiros light you're using in those setups. Do you run them on reduced intesity (80%)? Great videos!
Started with 50% then after a few weeks 60% and right now 70%
Thanks!
Strong filtration with good media (canister filter) VS no filter/basic filter with no media.
Is the beneficial bacteria on the tank itself(soil, hardscape) enough for filtration or does the canister filters promoted by YT channels and brands necessary for a proper aquascape....
Tap vs Ro only matters when you need to have low Gh and Kh for Syngonanthus plants or the Ca/Mg in Tap is high or bad ratio, or Tap is bad quality due to Heavy Cu, Fe presence in my opinion. Im using only RO, due to plants requiring low KH.
You should experiment seiryu stone in Ro water. I wanted to use Seiryu stone in my hardscape but seiryu is Not inert so it will buffer the water chemistry so that the problem
Even I faced same issue with ro water my kh is 2 and gh is 8 , I tried all methods but dust algae wouldn't stop then when I used tap water I didn't get any dust algae.
Where did you get your stand please?
Should do a side by side of low tech with RO vs tap, essentially your mitgating the availability of nutrients with Co2, as its easier for them to absorb nutrients by changing the carbonates in the water. harder to tell the difference high tech va high tech. I bet with a low tech setup you will notice much more of a change.
I use RO in my planted tank as my tap water has high phosphate levels which is awful for BBA. I dont bother with it in my Big Cichlid tank though.
I think there isn't different results between both thanks. What pH level do you have in your City? In Madrid I have 6,4. pH and 4 to kh. !!
Hello im New on your Channel . What kind of fertilizer do you add in to your tanks?
I have two huge rain collection tanks & have been trying to find a video like this with rain v tap water. I’m not very smart when it comes to water parameters. I do check my water regularly, but only ever go off the printed colour chart & it’s usually normal. Do you think rain water is similar to the RO water? Love your experiments ❤️🇦🇺
Rainwater is fine so long as it isn't off a roof where significant numbers of pigeons/birds poop - loads of phosphate.
MJ the tap water in our country is justäa about the best in the world. Unless you need soft water. Say when you wanna play with some Parospromenus. Which i think you should
I use tap water for my tank and top off with RO water so my mineral content doesnt spike as my tao water is hard.
Will plants survive only on liquid fertilizer and gravel or need both aqua soil and liquid fertilizer
Some plants feed largely through leaves, some largely roots, crypts the latter, many stems the former. All plants can be grown in small sized gravel with tab nutrition added. Special aquarium soil products are better, easier to plant into and better store of minerals and no danger of scraping the glass but of course it can become messy after the baked pellet shape deteriorates over time. Tanks that are left to run for a decade or so, normally, at the very least, have a gravel topping. Hope that helps.
Soft water: GDA
Hard water: GBA
Cold water: BBA
Warm water: plants melt
Clean water: GSA
Dirty water: BGA
RO water is not necessary unless you have extremely high or low PH in your natural tap water, additionally if you live in a 3rd world country and have dirty water, then its probably not going to be good for your aquarium either and RO will clean the water up. I don't think RO has any real benefits for plants, i think it is clearly important for fish breeding because it simulates rain(distilled water), and certain species of fish that need extreme PH environments.
overall it confirmed what i believed, but i was still very interested to see the results, because i am wrong sometimes and its always good to experiment. thank you for the time and effort you put into these tests.
What is the tap water tds?
whats ur tap water tds ph and kh ?
What is the TDS of your tap water?
Between 350 and 400
@@MJAquascaping Thanks for the reply. I was curious because my well water is 75 and I thought it was really hard. It has a lot of iron in it and detectable nitrates 25-50ppm. If I don't do water changes my tanks stay clear but if I do it looks like it's cycling again. Suggestions?
I use mostly RO water.
you are remineralized it with salt ?
No. Just add liquid Fertilizers.
Aqua soils vs sand/natural gravel
But for the aqua soil you put no c02
we already know what the aquasoil will do so just the sand or natural gravel should be tested.
though it is obvious what will happen. The plants that need nutrients from the substrate won't grow as well.
should've done inert soil. gotta reduce extraneous variables
I think it's not about the plant grow when it comes to source of water.
I would say using RO water makes you safer than tape water, when you are sure that RO is completely clean.
In the other way, could happen something like one day your water source gets some toxins and you don't know about it. Would be problem after that.
I think your tap might just be good enough but in my case I am setting up an ro system simply because my tap is 330ppm+ hardness and 8.2 ph. Overall just too many well water things that I don’t want
Just getting back in to aqua scaping after a 15 year break. I've had my 120P up for about a month now. I tried to start with tap water and unfortunately the city uses so much chloramine I was having to use double to triple the recommended dose to remove it. I decided to go RO, the units have come down in price over the last decade and I have the space for a 30gal storage tank.
RO water has not been with out challenges, getting the re-mineralizing correct has not been easy and I'm sad to say I lost a hand full of shrimp and snails in the process. I started with SeaChem equilibrium. Problem is that while it will raise GH it does almost nothing for KH. Since I have only dragon stone in my tank I was having issues with pH crashing. I see that you are using salty shrimp and I will be switching to GH + KH it on my next water change.
So this is just a warning to those out there, just because something is fancier or more expensive doesn't make it any better. I would say if you have a good tap water supply stick with it and only use RO if you absolutely need to.
If you were able to, how did you fix the KH? I'm doing a 60P with ro water and dragon stone. In addition to equilibrium I got the alkaline buffer to hopefully prevent crashes
@@jacksonbishopp2719 I did a 50% water change this past weekend and remineralized with the Saltyshrimp GH&KH+. Used 22.6g for 30gal of water. This gave me a 6dGH and 3dKH and a pH of 7.2. I thought that I had found my answer. The next day my tank was back down to a pH of 6.9 and 1-2dKH.
I only have dragon stone which will not raise KH. If you have any kind of stone in your hard scape that has limestone in you will probably not face this issue.
I not sure where the KH is going. I read that plants can use when there is a lack of co2 but since I’m injecting co2 I don’t believe this to be the case.
I have ordered some course aragonite sand and will place some in a filter bag in one of my filters to try and slowly raise my KH or off set what is getting taken up.
If I can’t get the KH to stay at 3dKH I will likely just deal with it for now. I will inject less CO2 so that my pH drops from 6.8 to 6.3 during the photo period, not the best but I would rather a stable KH and not have to add buffer everyday.
@@mjames1842 If I run into the same issue with mine (being setup tomorrow) I will try the aragonite sand, thanks
@@jacksonbishopp2719 I should have the sand on Wednesday, I’ll let you know how it goes.