@@tristanmaxwell8403 - I have to wonder if you have had the opportunity to witness unrepentant evil that is so bad that it made you throw up. I am really OK with some people not being in heaven who unashamedly take pleasure in doing evil that is so graphic that I don’t even want to mention it on a public platform. Suffice it to say that I am willing to accept God’s judgment is actually going to be just and His mercy is beyond my human capacity.
@@tristanmaxwell8403 Isn't it like life in prision? One (very bad) "mistake," and they take away everything but your life? I am not taking about Western "Gucci" prisons, where you get three square meals, library privileges, and get to play basketball and/or workout all day? I mean more like a Third-world, Gulag-style, hell-hole, hard-labor camp. If we really are enfleshed, eternal souls, only our flesh is time-limited. God lives outside of a linear time construct. So then would our souls. So, after death, we would have to consciously exist somewhere, and if it is not with God, the Source of Everything Good, then it would have to be apart from everything good, perhaps. Maybe this feels like the burning of "eternal fire," whatever that is. I understand what you mean, though. It seems cruel and unfair.
@@simonodowd2119 I’ve determined they are the words of Jesus because of the power in His words and by the history of his disciples preserving His words.
I agree. I think that hell is as beyond our imagination as heaven is and that the descriptions of both realms in the bible are the best approximations our minds are capable of receiving short of seeing those places ourselves. That said, I have to think that there is some element of fire in in hell, because fire is mentioned frequently - the verse you stated being an instance, Paul Breckell. And then there's the lake of fire which burns with fire and brimstone. Hell is the holding cell until final sentencing to the lake of fire. Both places seem hot. And with degrees of punishment, it's clear that there's more to the inner workings of both these places (hell and the lake of fire) than is revealed to us now.
@@simonodowd2119 [Can I ask how you determined that what the Gospels write about Jesus is accurate?] Search the RUclips page of the person who produced this video. He talks about that issue.
@@simonodowd2119This is called Faith. You might develop it eg. the more you read the Bible without assuming it's a lie. Faith might be a supernatural gift. Read the whole Bible from beggining to end and perhaps you will get Faith. Cause it's not like any other book. There ale also other sources of belief. But it might be, that if you have the Spirit of Truth in you, it will guide you to the truth if you put time and effort into it. The main question to start might be: Why would they lie and allow themselves to be killed for it?
Why cant hell be a place of rehabilitation for the wicked, rather than non ending torment?.. So if God is love, then God loves all his creatures…to love someone is to want the best for them…God will continue to love those in hell, desiring their best.” God’s love and God’s justice are not “in opposition to each other,” and hell must “be seen as a manifestation of divine goodness: of loving justice, and of just love.”
In criminal justice, isn't there some leniency if the criminal was under some sort of influence where they are not in their full right mind? Couldn't it be said that an unbeliever will have a more clearer picture of reality when they are standing before God? They might realize they would have done things differently if they were in their right mind.
You mentioned the possibility of there being different degrees of punishment in Hell. You also indicated (if I'm understanding you correctly) that the ways in which we've allowed cultural ideas of Hell to influence our thinking about Hell might be faulty. Would you be willing to talk more about this in the future? There are 2 reasons I ask this. The first is that many people seem to be unwilling to consider the possibility that Christianity is true partly because of how they think about the topic of Hell. The second reason is that I think many Christians (including myself) still find the existence of Hell to be disturbing in ways that challenge our faith. It might be beneficial for a lot of people if there could generally be more nuanced and thoughtful discussion about the topic of Hell. I hope you see this. Also, thank you for the video. Thank you for writing Cold Case Christianity as well. The book has been an invaluable resource for me and others that I know.
I'll copy my comment: A hypothesis for why hell might have to exist is that if it didn't then people wouldn't be scared enough to want to work for heaven. Instead they might say "I'd rather have a punishment of a million years of purgatory than submit to you so give me how long a punishment you want, I rather suffer for so long than lose my pride by submission.". While submission may be necessary in Heaven. Otherwise instead of being happy by just living with the guidance of a perfect Father, not having a care in the world or any fear, people would continue to be afraid that perhaps God either doesn't know what's best for them or keep something better away from them because He is "afraid" of them becoming "like God" without His approval (as though God is in any danger from anyone or anything at all or anyone can achieve anything against His Will) or He wants to keep things in secret, because if He told people the truth they would do things He doesn't like them to do that would make people happier, but God less happy. As though the happiness of people is in conflict with happiness of God. That's what the Snake lies about in Genesis. Genesis 3 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
I like the view that Hugh Ross has for hell. He believes that there are degrees of torment in hell that is proportional to the capacity a person has to cause torment to others. It's like someone sent to jail for a minor offense who is in the company of really hardened and evil people there. A jailer may inflict even greater torment on them to protect the less evil. All in hell will be separated from God which is their choice, but some will be tormented greater depending on their capacity to do evil.
It would not be loving to force someone to love you. That would actually be the ultimate act of control. It is far more moral and just to allow someone to choose their own path. There is no true love unless He allows that.
From the hymn "Beneath the cross of Jesus": There lies beneath its shadow, But on the farther side, The darkness of an awful grave That gapes both deep and wide; And there between us stands the cross, Two arms outstretched to save, Like a watchman set to guard the way From that eternal grave. You must get past the cross to get to hell.
When I read that God is love, it gave me a different perspective on the cross. I'm sure that he died on the cross to save us so we don't have to burn, and anyone with love in their heart still will be saved. Cause it states that no man can get good for God and I'm pretty sure he knew that so hence the cross. That was my take on it
Thanks, J. for making it so clear. For me, so often the problem isn't to know answers to different topics... it's just to word the things I want to tell people. This series really helps with that problem! Thank you! be blessed. 😀
@@ColdCaseChristianity Hell isn't Sheol, the "house of the dead"? So isn't it already a false idea, influenced by greek mythology? And after resurrections of all people, it says that the ungodly will be thrown in the Lake of fire where both body and soul are destroyed, the second death. So will it be a forever suffering? About punishment, Jesus is clear: "47 The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12) So not all will suffer the same. But again, many or few doesn't mean forever, as destruction of body and soul doesn't mean forever either.
@@florinaschilean6143 Some theologians say that people in the Bible used words from other cultures and religions to make them more easily understood by others. Acts 17 22Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship-and this is what I am going to proclaim to you. 24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. Also the metaphors using words don't need to convey the whole meaning of the word. Like Jesus was called "The Lamb", which doesn't mean He was walking on all fours and had wool growing on His body. As for the rest, I believe it's worth to see that God is the word definer and He can define words however He wants. And you might treat the Bible as a dictionary above linguists of any historic period, by checking what meaning does the Bible convey about words from the context in which they are used. (The same word might be in various gramatical forms) Interlinear: biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/22-5.htm Places where the greek word αἰών (aión) is used: biblehub.com/greek/strongs_165.htm
Love it ❤️ You're right with torture vs torment. The biblical hell is not Dante's Divine Comedy. Indeed, the punishment is according to one's deeds and to the divine Law. And I like the biblical concept you presented that sinners through the Law transgression exclude themselves from the presence of God. The call/invitation is for everyone "whosoever".. Now, my challenge is: as many believe that Hell is eternal, won't that imply that the soul is immortal? Then, if we as humans are immortals what need for resurrection? Are we immortal only for and in Hell?
The soul going to Heaven to be with God after we die is only part of the story. The endgame is Jesus returning to create the new Heaven and the new Earth ("Heaven on Earth"), where our souls will be reunited with imperishable bodies (like Jesus had post-Resurrection), and we will live like God always intended us to. That's the "life of the world to come" we Christians are waiting for.
@@HyraxusPrimus "The biblical hell is not Dante's Divine Comedy. Indeed, the punishment is according to one's deeds" Have you even read the Divine Comedy? Because that is precisely what Dante's Hell is.
And another hypothesis: Since God wants us to love people and forgive them even the worst things, hell is a type of limiter to hate. Cause someone might think "I hate this person so much I want Him to be in Hell for a 100 years, 1000 years, a million, a billion, He deserves it"... but then you see "do I really want this person to be there for eternity?". Does a person who hates someone so much that He wants that person to never ever leave hell is really loving? That would make this a test of love, so perhaps people will forgive everyone and will not want anyone to go there. Even more motivation to go and evangelize. Cause otherewise one could say. "Meh. He'll get out of there one day. Why bother?"
The idea of hell, if you de-Greekify it, is non-existence. If people are separated from God, there is no life. We're told God will separate sheep and goats. The reason I find non-existence compelling as "hell" is that it fulfills God's promise to completely remove sin and death from his creation. A complete and final removal, which not only vindicates those who believed in Jesus, but also provides for a cleansed creation for them to live within (the undoing of the curse from Genesis! Hooray!). If we hold on to sin and evil, we're going to get tossed out with them when God throws them away for all time. He miraculously offers another way and a hand out of the trash can, but we have to decide whether to take that hand up or not.
Torment- sever physical or mental suffering Torture- inflicting sever pain or suffering I’m not seeing that much of a difference. Seams like one is giving the pain and suffering and one is receiving it but the subject in hell is enduring sever pain and suffering either way. That being said, big J Warner Wallace fan. Keep up the good work! Love the short, question direct vids. March on.....
The difference might be how it is perceived and separated. Like God can allow Satan to lie, but He doesn't lie. So God could destroy Satan any moment, but doesn't. So God allows lies to exist, but doesn't lie Himself in person. So that when you meet God you will know that His words are the truth. He seperates Himself from evil, but allows evil. One might say that He allows evil so that people will hate evil and will not want it of their free will. So they will choose to be like God (at least in morality), but not because they are not allowed to be evil, but becaue they experience evil and do not want it. God wants people to choose good , not be forced to be good like robots.
1) Couldn't God just make an intermediate option between "bliss for all eternity" and "torment for all eternity." Perhaps, torment for your sins, followed by a release to Heaven when cleansed? But no, that would be too logical an answer. 2) I would think that people who "reject God" would rather accept an awkward eternity with him than Hell. It seems that a loving God would be know this and be above such dickishness. 3) I would assume that, when the Bible repeatedly mentions fire (as in "a furnace of fire"), that's a little more than just regret.
@@marthaj67 however, it'd be an argument from silence to say that He is also present in Hell, but what has that got to do with the gospel? It does not change or even challenge the gospel, so calm down.
That's not true . He's Omnipresent , so he's not absent from being there too . That's what many people who thought they were Christian but God never knew them will be distressed even more . The difference being .. That they won't be in right relationship to Christ , as legit believers will be . So if God being Omnipresent , the logic is that he will be present in hell too .
Thank you so much for what you and the team does to show the world who God is and what is His plan for us. When life gets a bit rough and need a little encouragement, I turn to your book and the evidence of Christ's deity and His resurrection. Is there any other book in the works?
The question is, why would a PERFECT, HOLY, and JUST God allow any of us to enter Heaven? To glorify Himself. What shall we say then? Is there injustice with God? Absolutely not! For he says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then, it does not depend on human desire or exertion, but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh: “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may demonstrate my power in you, and that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then, God has mercy on whom he chooses to have mercy, and he hardens whom he chooses to harden. You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who has ever resisted his will?” But who indeed are you-a mere human being-to talk back to God? Does what is molded say to the molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special use and another for ordinary use? But what if God, willing to demonstrate his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience the objects of wrath prepared for destruction? And what if he is willing to make known the wealth of his glory on the objects of mercy that he has prepared beforehand for glory- even us, whom he has called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? ~ Romans 9:14-24 (NET)
I have a question. In Luke 16:24 it talks about the rich man in hell asking for a drop of water on his tonge. I know we dont know his full life story. But it seems like the man is in the fire not just regret. Now I do share your beliefs on the different degrees of hell. It seems to me that the rich man's anguish is more severe than regret. Am I over looking or misunderstanding the context?
R White The Rich Man was not in hell, he was in a place called Hades. This is similar to the term “Abraham bosom” or Paradise. These are sort of holding tanks for people who have died but not been officially judged. No one is yet in their final assigned place. Hell and heaven are established only after the final judgement of mankind. I can’t answer your question about the pain he was suffering because I don’t know and I haven’t read any commentaries about it.
I appreciate that he is trying to move the social construct of hell to a more Biblical standpoint. He is juuuuust one step from where I was hoping. Hell, is most certainly not ECT. As humans, our soul and body are one. We do not have inherent immortality in some spirit form. Hell, is a total destruction and separation from God. Those that don't want to be with God, or do not want to be a part of his law of Love, cannot be allowed to stay in his universe. As long as there is wickedness in existence, there is sin. God wants to eradicate sin. Keeping people in some state of life in sin, simply does not fit.
Your view is not biblical at all. Where did you get these ideas? Our souls and bodies are certainly not one according to the Bible. Upon death the body returns to dust at whence it came and your soul goes to heaven or hell. To be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord. You say that we will not inherit immortality, although the Bible says that we will have an incorruptible body and there will be no more death. That would be immortality. You say that people need to be eradicated that don’t want to be with God, says who? You say that God wants to eradicate sin, where is that in scripture? There is no sin in heaven but there is plenty in hell. If God wanted no sin then he could destroy sin and the earth anytime he wants. Remember God allowed sin when he gave people free choice. Look to the Bible for the truth because someone has fed you lies. If you need the scripture ref for my view, let me know, for scripture is the only valid authority.
Or perhaps one hypothesis might be that... One of the main issues for peoples' suffering in life is FEAR. Fear that comes eg. from the unknown (of future) or our belief that something bad will happen and that fear, not God, protects us and guides our life. I guess there would be no Heaven with fear in it. But why do we have fear? Because we do not trust God that everything is going to be the best version possible, cause God is love and is Allpowerful. We keep accusing God of wrong intentions and that we might know better how the world should be run. The lack of faith and mistrust to God creates fear as though we can fight against God's Will, instead of just obeying His best ever advice every second of life. So we keep on questioning His methods trying to find something wrong in His methods, which is pride. And only way to ever lose the fear is to have state of belief, not fear, when we are as Children fearing nothing under the protection of a Father God that is perfect in His methods. So perhaps God wants to throw at us everything scary so that we understand that no matter what happens, everything is under control, no matter how scary it is. So perhaps fear is to push us to perfect our faith and trust in God, so later no Snake will be able to make us question God again, without the necessity to take away our free will, cause even if the tree of knowing good and evil would be there, but when God says, "it's bad for you" we will be sure and without fear that it's so and will not believe God is a liar, but that He gives us the best advice ever and one shouldn't even bother questioning it. And what if our minds have a natural tendency to create scary things all the time to the extreme without control, while God is blocking our abilities to dive into the worst evils that are unimaginably scary like the worst nightmares and much worse. But God keeps us from experiencing this and gives us only a taste of the madness that we could reach if left without His supervision. So if someone through the whole life decides that this fear is not enough He gets the more scary package to learn humility the hard way. God drops (part of) the shields that protect us from utter madness and this may be a part of what hell (or purgatory) is. And the way to not fall into this madness is trusting God fully. Madness of fear when we don't trust God. And since people keep questioning God, He allows the distribution of evils among people so that not every person has to take all the evil personally, but only a part of it, so that in the end we have a chance to learn from other peoples' mistakes. But if someone's stubborn to the limits and disrespects God to the extreme perhaps it will end badly. In the end God decides what is best. Either you believe that He is Almighty, Allknowing, Just, Merciful, Loving, etc. and thus you listen to Him, or ignore Him and risk consequences. Ecclesiastes 8 4Since a king’s word is supreme, who can say to him, “What are you doing?” 5Whoever obeys his command will come to no harm, and the wise heart will know the proper time and procedure. 6For there is a proper time and procedure for every matter, though a person may be weighed down by misery. 7Since no one knows the future, who can tell someone else what is to come? 8As no one has power over the wind to contain it, so no one has power over the time of their death. As no one is discharged in time of war, so wickedness will not release those who practice it. 11When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong. Romans 9 14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f] 16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? 22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory- 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
If Hell is a place of eternal separation ("outer darkness") from God, who, amongst other things, could be considered the Source of Everything Good, then perhaps all of the weeping, wailing, and teeth-nashing that is going on is because you only get to experience everything that is NOT good forever. Maybe this feels like "eternal fire?" Or maybe the pain of separation from God is so excruciating, it feels like swimming in a "lake of fire?"
It is said in Genesis 1 that God seperated light from darkness, which might mean good from evil. And He decided light is good. Allows people to experience darkness and choose to reject it and choose light out of free will. And people who don't reject darkness are going to suffer due to wanting to be in it due to the nature of darkness that causes suffering of the soul by it's very nature.
I think some people fail to recognize that people in hell are not alone. Demons live there too and they can do whatever they want to you, for however long they want, with absolutely no compassion or mercy. What’s to stop them? They can torture you and almost kill you over and over and yet you’ll never die. They mess with people here on earth, though limited, you think they will leave you alone there where there are no limits? Not a chance. If you think this is trying to scare you into serving God, you should be scared of hell. Before coming to Jesus, I dabbled in things I shouldn’t have (not drugs, not alcohol-rather spiritual) and I can tell you (whether you believe me or not... it’s true) demons are very real and incredibly incredibly strong and incredibly angry. Jesus saved me from them! What is the minimal amount of punishment in hell? We don’t know, so I don’t think it’s a good idea to minimalize what it is. You’re not sitting in a dark space of regret. That’s not torment. How do I know? Because when Jesus told the story of the rich man and Lazarus, was the rich man just hanging out regretting? No! He was in absolute agony because of the fire and begging for even one drop of water. That tells us hell is painful, hot and awful at minimal. Good news is it’s your choice to go there or not. Either you will pay for your own sin in hell or you will let Jesus pay for your sin and in gratitude love him, obey him, and follow him the rest of your days. I’ve seen what the other side to it is and it’s beyond terrifying. I choose Jesus. This is the truth and I gain nothing from lying about it. In fact, I risk people thinking I’m crazy, I know. But I felt led to share it for someone out there.
Fear can escalate to great proportions beyond a human's ability to resist. I used to have long terrifying realistic nightmares beyond perhaps anything seen in daylight sometimes night after night for years. So perhaps nightmares are glimpses of a fraction of the fear of hell or purgatory. Cause if someone is not willing to submit to God under normal measures, more drastic ones are used.
But have you guys ever thought on how bizzar it is to send people to hell, say I steal a loaf of bread because I am hungry, or lets just say, I hate my boss cause he is mean, does that make me justible to go to hell?? Isn’t is a bit of an exaggiration??!
I've been trying to believe in God of the bible and Jesus for a while now. You cant force yourself to believe. I am trying believe there is more but I'm not sure its God of the bible. So although i want to and try to search, I am apparently condemned to hell. I have several like me. So sometimes it's not choice. Sometimes we sincerely try but struggle to believe. I put it down to either I'm not chosen/ wanted or the God of the bible isnt real but there is a higher power but we just dont know much more than that.
Great vid...cheers ....GOD doesn't want anyone to go to hell.....but if by your words ...thoughts and deeds you let him know that you insist on going there....what can he do but oblige . Grace and peace Gilly wife of Mark
GOD doesn’t send anyone to hell. The people that go there choose to live their life separate from GOD and gives them every opportunity to change their mind and repent but we are not promised tomorrow. So follow Jesus. That’s literally what that means.
Perfect justice has no mercy; perfect mercy has no justice. God is merciful and just. He has, in mercy, given His Way to salvation through his Son, Yeshua, the Messiah, to allow us to not suffer the just consequences of our sins. All that is required is that we turn from our sins to God through his Son and endeavor to put our sins against God aside and show our commitment by showing love to our fellow humans. Perhaps that is too much for those who object to facing Hell.
God is the word definer and decide of what is what and what isn't. So if for Him there is justice in mercy to the one confessing sin with true regret and submitting to His Will willingly, then that is justice. Justice is what God decides to be justice. We cannot make human definitions of what is just to rule our minds.
What's hell (tradition) and what's the hell of the bible? 2 different things. It's a great question but based on a false understanding if what “hell” is from a biblical point of view. Let's start with the word hell it's self it means to cover like in the word helmet(head cover). Now the word hell in scripture actually covers 4 different words from 2 different languages (Hebrew(aramaic? ) and Greek) sheol and Hades are equivalents and basically mean a pit or a hole in the ground. Gehenna(valley of the son of hinnom) is the one that is translate hell fire but it is a name of a place outside of Jerusalem where in Jesus day they burnt the rubbish and unclaimed executed criminals bodies. And when Christ returns those that have heard of him and rejected him will be executed and their dead bodies thrown into the garbage dump. The last word is only used once and it is tartaros and basically means abyss and is used in reference to what happened in numbers 16 during the Korah, Dathan and Abirim rebellion. It is not a place of eternal torment . *[[Ecc 9:5]] KJ2000* For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecc 9:6 KJ2000 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun. When you are dead you know nothing . Do souls die ?? yes the soul that sins it shall die. David said many times save my soul from death. This life after death garbage steals from jesus the power of the ressurection and as he by being ressurected became the first fruits of them that sleep (dead) it nullifies the ressurection for the people who have died are not dead and it also makes God out to be a liar right from day 6 when he told Adam if he ate the fruit dying he would die but if he has an immortal soul (pfffft) he does not actually die does he so God lied. The immortal soul nonsense causes to many biblical contradictions and makes our creator into a liar.
Yes, he will! But he came to earth to save us by taking our punishment of death for us. So he showed us his love by dying and resurrection for us. I disagree with you regarding the torture God will inflict on people who refuse to believe in him he most certainly will torture those sent to hell and for all eternity, Also Satan will be tortured also, so he does not rule hell, God does.
Sorry for the length of my reply. In the context of your video, first let me say I used to believe the same as you. Your quote: "Stop allowing our cultural definitions of hell to dictate what we believe about hell." Can't you see that's EXACTLY what you've done? I as well was exposed to the American justice system while residing with a District Attorney, so I know what evidence is. You've offered none my friend, but only a belief. Your belief would not hold up in any court of law and you know it! You're offering your opinion only, based on religious indoctrination caused by ignorance, then applying your carnal sense of justice to defining God's justice. I was taught by the D.A.'s office that with all the laws on the books-they offer little to no deterrent to the majority of those who break them. With that said, you're trying to push something unproven and with no evidence of existence, as in the threat of hell as a reason for people to turn to God. It simply doesn't work any better than our present laws to keep people from breaking them. Lastly, you speak of God's justice. In our justice system, would it be justice to enforce the death penalty for jaywalking? What you are promoting is far worse. You're endorsing an ETERNAL penalty for a short lifetime of unbelief (jaywalking). Then you manipulated the discussion by adding justice for the victim into the mix. However, you did offer a "degree" of punishment, but based on what? Your carnal sense of justice? Regardless, the degree you still speak of requires an eternal punishment for a short lifetime of wrong doing, and you call that justice based on nothing but conjecture, emotion, assumption, and tainted by your occupation. There's is an answer to God's justice that doesn't require a pagan belief. It's called TRUST! Trust that death doesn't stop God from causing people to repent. (Context is about unbelievers) 1 Peter 4:6 - For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God. (I thought hell was eternal death). Look... it's not my place to change your mind about anything-that's not my job, but it's the Spirit of God's responsibility. I can encourage you however to get educated to why the ancient Latin church inserted their pagan belief of hell into scripture, when it never existed in the oldest of Greek manuscripts and letters. Example: There's no mention of a devil nor hell in the Greek Septuagint circa the 3rd century BC, nor found in the Torah, the Teaching of Moses, the first five books. N: Nevi'im, the books of the prophets. Kh: Ketuvim. Yet, all of a sudden, what you're promoting pops into existence in 440 AD with the publication of the Latin Vulgate. My hope is that you don't delete my comment, and that others who watch your video begin to question why they believe what they believe and investigate the evidence, instead of basing it on a belief (simply because it's in a Latin-based corrupted Bible), as you have done.
There is no hell. The word itself is not even in the Bible. It is an English word derived from Hela, the Norse goddess of death. The Bible teaches death and resurrection, not any sort of afterlife. Greco-Roman pagan ideology slowly adopted by an apostate Catholic church that now pervades Christendom, which claims to represent the god of the Bible. "This people honors me with their lips only; but their hearts are far removed from me". The true God does not torture anyone. Death is the punishment for sin; all sin. From Adam on.
I've been trying to believe in God of the bible and Jesus for a while now. You cant force yourself to believe. I am trying believe there is more but I'm not sure its God of the bible. So although i want to and try to search, I am apparently condemned to hell. I have several like me. So sometimes it's not choice. Sometimes we sincerely try but struggle to believe. I put it down to either I'm not chosen/ wanted or the God of the bible isnt real but there is a higher power but we just dont know much more than that.
Yea. but. why would god create me knowing before creating me (since hes all knowing ) that i would go to hell. Nothing goes against your gods will says in. the bible. So yes, by definition ....god does send you to hell because he makes you that way.
The natural destination of all mankind is hell. For all have sinned and the wages of sin is death (separation from God). That is the Justice of God. But God, in mercy, sent Jesus to take all of our sin on himself and pay the price. That is the Love of God. Accept Jesus and his sacrifice to gain Mercy. Chose not to and get Justice. The choice is yours.
There is no everlasting hell , yes some recieve greater punishment then others , REVELATION 20 v 14 "" and hell and death were cast into the lake of fire , this is the second death."" What state of consciousness are we in when we die ? We are asleep we have no consciousness Ecclesastic 9 v 5 " for the living know that they will die but the dead KNOW NOTHING " , w
You have to read the whole Ecclesiastes chapter 9. It says the dead no nothing that goes on under the sun. That means once you die you’re not watching loved ones on earth. You cannot intervening in their life or go visit them. And you assume Revelation 20, the second death means that you’re gone. That is an assumption. After the first death do you cease to exist? No, that what makes you think after the second death you would not exist? Revelation also says that the damned will be tormented a day and night forever and ever. Rev 14:11, rev 20:10 How can you be tormented forever and ever and not exist? I would absolutely love to believe what you’re saying but it is not biblical.
We will have consciousness, the spirit realm is way more real and more intense then the state we are in now. Read luke 16:24 New International Version So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
perfect justice demand a perfect sacrifice and that was the Lamb of God who died for the world and took away the sin. Justice includes restitution. the offended and the offender both reconciled is the aim of biblical justice .. wages of sin is death...not eternal conscious torment in hell (which is pagan concept)...Thus says the LORD: "For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because he pursued his brother with the sword and cast off all pity, and his anger tore perpetually, and he kept his wrath forever. - Amos 1:11 To keep wrath perpetually or for ever Is one sign of wickedness. But our God .. a prayer of David God’s anger is momentary 3 O LORD, you have brought up my soul from Sheol (grave, realm of the dead, ‘hell ‘) you restored me to life from among those who go down to the pit. 4 Sing praises to the LORD, O you his saints, and give thanks to his holy name. 5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning. - Psalm 30:3-5
" it's worse, much worse, than a torture chamber". (Tim Keller). Conditionallism is more appropriate, or less unjust. Duration had to be factored in as well as intensity.
1:45 However, if the offender converts at the last second and believes in God, he will be welcome with open arms by God. The Prodigal Son parable just proves what you say wrong, the offender returned to God, and was thrown a party for him at the expense of his brother's feelings. Who is portrayed as the bad guy, for not receiving his brother. God seems to mostly care about those that worship him, over those that act good. A serial killer converts to Christianity, he goes to heaven. A humanitrian who has dedicated their whole life to helping others, and has never done anything wrong, but is an atheist, then he goes to hell. Anyone sane, looking into that scenario, could never describe that as just. You can try and downplay hell all you want. But according to the bible he doesn't do it, to spare the feelings of the offended, he apparently does it because he wants to be worshipped. He blackmails everyone with the existance of Hell, just so people worship him. God, as depicted in the bible, is not loving, he is a narcissist.
You're falsely equating revenge with justice, as our "justice system" often does, taking it's cues, sadly, from the OT where it's an "eye for an eye". But that's not the justice of GOD. That's the justice that MAN wants. MAN wants revenge and to "even the scales" (See, right there, we think of justice as doling out punishment in like manner as to the crime). God doesn't take revenge on us. The CROSS proves this about God. God FORGIVES. EVERY. TIME. If you don't know that about God, then you are really ignoring the ministry, message and example of Jesus in His life and death. Justice isn't people "getting what they deserve". In fact, it's just the opposite. Justice is everyone getting what God wants for them, which is to be healed and whole. It literally means for all things to be set right. People suffering because they caused suffering is not setting THEM right, and even worse the idea of people forever tortured. That sets NOTHING right. Setting things to rights cannot be accomplished through punishment and revenge, but only through reconciliation and deep love, for both victim AND perpetrator. Modeling God's "justice system" on what WE think of as justice is a a HUGE mistake. Our justice will never measure up to God's because His ways are higher than our ways (which, btw, in context is talking about His great MERCY). So, Hell simply doesn't fall within the realm of God's justice, but is a manifestation of MAN'S desire for punishment and revenge, ie. to "get even". But what is GOD'S desire? For us to "Do justly, love mercy and walk humbly". Even in this verse He defines what doing justice looks like. It looks like mercy. If you are waiting for God to "get revenge" for Himself or for you by using Hell against His or your enemies, you have not yet learned how to do the things "required of you". Advocating for the hate and vitriol of "the victim", telling them they have a "right" to be appeased, does not heal them. It only prolongs the agony. Only in reconciliation and forgiveness is true peace found.
Hell cannot exist!! Hell (especially in its traditonal sense as an eternal firey place of torment) can not exist and at the same time for God to be just and loving... here are several questions that illustrate this point : A)Is there heaven and/or hell and what happens after we die. B)what happens to those who can not be held accountable like babies, mentally retarded people etc.? C)is it fair, loving and just for God to throw sinners (who did not ask to be created) in hell to be tormented for eternity on the basis of how they lived in this limited and often times short lifetime? answers for questions A through C a) there is heaven for those who did not violate the 10 commandments(at least in theory, we know we all have sinned maybe with the possible exception of Enoch or perhaps enoch's sins were so few that god was pleased with him) or those sinners who repented and kept the comandments before dying. the sacrifice of jesus atoned for our commited sins and showed us that we too can live a life free of sin as he did although he was jubjected to similar temptations as we are (Hebrews 4:15 NIV). So for those who still do not live a holy life by the time they are dead, they will be sent back to earth (unless god forgives them), reincarnated, in their same likeness. b)those who cannot be held accountable will also be reincarnated on earth until they are holy and can enter heaven. Suppose those who can not be held accountable were automatically granted heaven, then that would lead to two different issues: 1)it would be unfair for those who lived passed the age of accountability (whatever that age is) and died in sin 2) it would mean that the most loving thing parents can do to ensure that their kids enter heaven is to kill them just before the age of accountability hence sparing them the high likelihood of spending eternaty in torment (if you think hell exist). C)absolutely not, there just isn't there a justification that i can think of here that would make sense for a loving, caring & just god to punish sinners for eternity. But it would make far more sense for them to be reincarnated here on this earth for another chance to live by the desires of their spirit (the holy spirit which is love as apposed to living by the desires of the flesh) supporting thoughts/bible verses: For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin. Hebrews 4:15 NIV As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit. 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 NIV There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after. Ecclesiastes 1:11 KJV “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matthew 7:13-14 NIV So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. Galatians 5:16-26 NIV what is a human being made of? three parts; the body, the spirit that keeps us alive (holy spirit) and the soul (which is the mind, the consciousness, the memories, the identity gained through our thoughts, senses and life experiences). supporting thoughts/bible verses: “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalms 82:6 NIV Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19 NIV Related videos : The Biblical Truth About Hell ruclips.net/video/rvkgRy2KIdg/видео.html Meaning of Hell in the New Testament ruclips.net/video/fkel_o6kRIw/видео.html
Thank you. This is one of the biggest debates I come across when speaking of christ and the bible.
It's certainly one of the most COMMON objections!
This is a sobering truth. Growing up, I heard more messages on hell than I did anything. You offer a refreshing explanation!
Oh, and I'm just gonna throw this out there. I would absolutely love to hear any conversation between you and Jordan Peterson take place.
People often forget (a lot of time willingly) that God is more than a God of love. He's also a just God.
Ya but to acknowledge a just God, you have to acknowledge that he has rules and consequences.....that’s not so popular these days.
There is no justice in eternal damnation. Sorry, no logical explanation for that
@@tristanmaxwell8403 - I have to wonder if you have had the opportunity to witness unrepentant evil that is so bad that it made you throw up. I am really OK with some people not being in heaven who unashamedly take pleasure in doing evil that is so graphic that I don’t even want to mention it on a public platform. Suffice it to say that I am willing to accept God’s judgment is actually going to be just and His mercy is beyond my human capacity.
@@tristanmaxwell8403
Isn't it like life in prision? One (very bad) "mistake," and they take away everything but your life? I am not taking about Western "Gucci" prisons, where you get three square meals, library privileges, and get to play basketball and/or workout all day? I mean more like a Third-world, Gulag-style, hell-hole, hard-labor camp. If we really are enfleshed, eternal souls, only our flesh is time-limited. God lives outside of a linear time construct. So then would our souls. So, after death, we would have to consciously exist somewhere, and if it is not with God, the Source of Everything Good, then it would have to be apart from everything good, perhaps. Maybe this feels like the burning of "eternal fire," whatever that is. I understand what you mean, though. It seems cruel and unfair.
@@tristanmaxwell8403And where is the logic in risking hell with your behaviour?
Hell "where the fire is not quenched and the worm dieth not" The Lord Jesus own words.
@@simonodowd2119
I’ve determined they are the words of Jesus because of the power in His words and by the history of his disciples preserving His words.
I agree.
I think that hell is as beyond our imagination as heaven is and that the descriptions of both realms in the bible are the best approximations our minds are capable of receiving short of seeing those places ourselves. That said, I have to think that there is some element of fire in in hell, because fire is mentioned frequently - the verse you stated being an instance, Paul Breckell. And then there's the lake of fire which burns with fire and brimstone. Hell is the holding cell until final sentencing to the lake of fire. Both places seem hot. And with degrees of punishment, it's clear that there's more to the inner workings of both these places (hell and the lake of fire) than is revealed to us now.
@@simonodowd2119 [Can I ask how you determined that what the Gospels write about Jesus is accurate?]
Search the RUclips page of the person who produced this video. He talks about that issue.
@@simonodowd2119This is called Faith. You might develop it eg. the more you read the Bible without assuming it's a lie. Faith might be a supernatural gift. Read the whole Bible from beggining to end and perhaps you will get Faith. Cause it's not like any other book.
There ale also other sources of belief. But it might be, that if you have the Spirit of Truth in you, it will guide you to the truth if you put time and effort into it.
The main question to start might be: Why would they lie and allow themselves to be killed for it?
Why cant hell be a place of rehabilitation for the wicked, rather than non ending torment?..
So if God is love, then God loves all his creatures…to love someone is to want the best for them…God will continue to love those in hell, desiring their best.” God’s love and God’s justice are not “in opposition to each other,” and hell must “be seen as a manifestation of divine goodness: of loving justice, and of just love.”
That’s what life is
They don’t want redemption or god.
In criminal justice, isn't there some leniency if the criminal was under some sort of influence where they are not in their full right mind? Couldn't it be said that an unbeliever will have a more clearer picture of reality when they are standing before God? They might realize they would have done things differently if they were in their right mind.
Thank you for making videos like this :)
Glad you like them!
You mentioned the possibility of there being different degrees of punishment in Hell. You also indicated (if I'm understanding you correctly) that the ways in which we've allowed cultural ideas of Hell to influence our thinking about Hell might be faulty. Would you be willing to talk more about this in the future?
There are 2 reasons I ask this. The first is that many people seem to be unwilling to consider the possibility that Christianity is true partly because of how they think about the topic of Hell. The second reason is that I think many Christians (including myself) still find the existence of Hell to be disturbing in ways that challenge our faith. It might be beneficial for a lot of people if there could generally be more nuanced and thoughtful discussion about the topic of Hell.
I hope you see this. Also, thank you for the video. Thank you for writing Cold Case Christianity as well. The book has been an invaluable resource for me and others that I know.
I'll copy my comment:
A hypothesis for why hell might have to exist is that if it didn't then people wouldn't be scared enough to want to work for heaven. Instead they might say "I'd rather have a punishment of a million years of purgatory than submit to you so give me how long a punishment you want, I rather suffer for so long than lose my pride by submission.". While submission may be necessary in Heaven. Otherwise instead of being happy by just living with the guidance of a perfect Father, not having a care in the world or any fear, people would continue to be afraid that perhaps God either doesn't know what's best for them or keep something better away from them because He is "afraid" of them becoming "like God" without His approval (as though God is in any danger from anyone or anything at all or anyone can achieve anything against His Will) or He wants to keep things in secret, because if He told people the truth they would do things He doesn't like them to do that would make people happier, but God less happy. As though the happiness of people is in conflict with happiness of God. That's what the Snake lies about in Genesis.
Genesis 3
1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
I like the view that Hugh Ross has for hell. He believes that there are degrees of torment in hell that is proportional to the capacity a person has to cause torment to others. It's like someone sent to jail for a minor offense who is in the company of really hardened and evil people there. A jailer may inflict even greater torment on them to protect the less evil.
All in hell will be separated from God which is their choice, but some will be tormented greater depending on their capacity to do evil.
Revelation makes it clear that every person will be individually judged in accordance with that he / she had specifically done (Revelation 20:12, 13).
I understand why finite people need a Justice system with punishment. We can’t change hearts.
But God can change hearts.
It seems a false comparison
It would not be loving to force someone to love you. That would actually be the ultimate act of control. It is far more moral and just to allow someone to choose their own path. There is no true love unless He allows that.
From the hymn "Beneath the cross of Jesus":
There lies beneath its shadow,
But on the farther side,
The darkness of an awful grave
That gapes both deep and wide;
And there between us stands the cross,
Two arms outstretched to save,
Like a watchman set to guard the way
From that eternal grave.
You must get past the cross to get to hell.
When I read that God is love, it gave me a different perspective on the cross. I'm sure that he died on the cross to save us so we don't have to burn, and anyone with love in their heart still will be saved. Cause it states that no man can get good for God and I'm pretty sure he knew that so hence the cross. That was my take on it
Thanks, J. for making it so clear. For me, so often the problem isn't to know answers to different topics... it's just to word the things I want to tell people.
This series really helps with that problem! Thank you! be blessed. 😀
Glad it was helpful!
@@ColdCaseChristianity Hell isn't Sheol, the "house of the dead"? So isn't it already a false idea, influenced by greek mythology?
And after resurrections of all people, it says that the ungodly will be thrown in the Lake of fire where both body and soul are destroyed, the second death. So will it be a forever suffering?
About punishment, Jesus is clear: "47 The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12)
So not all will suffer the same. But again, many or few doesn't mean forever, as destruction of body and soul doesn't mean forever either.
@@florinaschilean6143 Some theologians say that people in the Bible used words from other cultures and religions to make them more easily understood by others.
Acts 17
22Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship-and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.
Also the metaphors using words don't need to convey the whole meaning of the word. Like Jesus was called "The Lamb", which doesn't mean He was walking on all fours and had wool growing on His body.
As for the rest, I believe it's worth to see that God is the word definer and He can define words however He wants. And you might treat the Bible as a dictionary above linguists of any historic period, by checking what meaning does the Bible convey about words from the context in which they are used. (The same word might be in various gramatical forms)
Interlinear:
biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/22-5.htm
Places where the greek word αἰών (aión) is used:
biblehub.com/greek/strongs_165.htm
@@florinaschilean6143well hell is forever so yes it is so don't think it's not because it is.
@@ColdCaseChristianitywhat makes you think that the Bible doesn't say anything about eternal punishment oh yes it does too
Love it ❤️ You're right with torture vs torment. The biblical hell is not Dante's Divine Comedy. Indeed, the punishment is according to one's deeds and to the divine Law. And I like the biblical concept you presented that sinners through the Law transgression exclude themselves from the presence of God. The call/invitation is for everyone "whosoever"..
Now, my challenge is: as many believe that Hell is eternal, won't that imply that the soul is immortal? Then, if we as humans are immortals what need for resurrection? Are we immortal only for and in Hell?
The soul going to Heaven to be with God after we die is only part of the story. The endgame is Jesus returning to create the new Heaven and the new Earth ("Heaven on Earth"), where our souls will be reunited with imperishable bodies (like Jesus had post-Resurrection), and we will live like God always intended us to.
That's the "life of the world to come" we Christians are waiting for.
@@HyraxusPrimus "The biblical hell is not Dante's Divine Comedy. Indeed, the punishment is according to one's deeds"
Have you even read the Divine Comedy? Because that is precisely what Dante's Hell is.
Humans are embodied soul. Are soul will not be complete without the resurrected body.
And another hypothesis:
Since God wants us to love people and forgive them even the worst things, hell is a type of limiter to hate. Cause someone might think "I hate this person so much I want Him to be in Hell for a 100 years, 1000 years, a million, a billion, He deserves it"... but then you see "do I really want this person to be there for eternity?". Does a person who hates someone so much that He wants that person to never ever leave hell is really loving? That would make this a test of love, so perhaps people will forgive everyone and will not want anyone to go there. Even more motivation to go and evangelize. Cause otherewise one could say. "Meh. He'll get out of there one day. Why bother?"
Great video. Very informative
Glad you think so!
The idea of hell, if you de-Greekify it, is non-existence. If people are separated from God, there is no life. We're told God will separate sheep and goats. The reason I find non-existence compelling as "hell" is that it fulfills God's promise to completely remove sin and death from his creation. A complete and final removal, which not only vindicates those who believed in Jesus, but also provides for a cleansed creation for them to live within (the undoing of the curse from Genesis! Hooray!). If we hold on to sin and evil, we're going to get tossed out with them when God throws them away for all time. He miraculously offers another way and a hand out of the trash can, but we have to decide whether to take that hand up or not.
Torment- sever physical or mental suffering
Torture- inflicting sever pain or suffering
I’m not seeing that much of a difference. Seams like one is giving the pain and suffering and one is receiving it but the subject in hell is enduring sever pain and suffering either way.
That being said, big J Warner Wallace fan. Keep up the good work! Love the short, question direct vids. March on.....
The difference might be how it is perceived and separated. Like God can allow Satan to lie, but He doesn't lie. So God could destroy Satan any moment, but doesn't. So God allows lies to exist, but doesn't lie Himself in person. So that when you meet God you will know that His words are the truth. He seperates Himself from evil, but allows evil. One might say that He allows evil so that people will hate evil and will not want it of their free will. So they will choose to be like God (at least in morality), but not because they are not allowed to be evil, but becaue they experience evil and do not want it. God wants people to choose good , not be forced to be good like robots.
1) Couldn't God just make an intermediate option between "bliss for all eternity" and "torment for all eternity." Perhaps, torment for your sins, followed by a release to Heaven when cleansed? But no, that would be too logical an answer.
2) I would think that people who "reject God" would rather accept an awkward eternity with him than Hell. It seems that a loving God would be know this and be above such dickishness.
3) I would assume that, when the Bible repeatedly mentions fire (as in "a furnace of fire"), that's a little more than just regret.
God doesn't send people to Hell. He allows those who reject Him to be where He isn't. The only place He isn't is Hell.
God is OMNIPRESENT. He is COMPLETELY SOVEREIGN over His creation. He is EVERYWHERE
Amen mark!
@@marthaj67 just because God can be everywhere doesn’t mean he chooses to be everywhere. Give me a scripture where it says God is in hell.....
@@marthaj67 however, it'd be an argument from silence to say that He is also present in Hell, but what has that got to do with the gospel? It does not change or even challenge the gospel, so calm down.
That's not true . He's Omnipresent , so he's not absent from being there too . That's what many people who thought they were Christian but God never knew them will be distressed even more . The difference being .. That they won't be in right relationship to Christ , as legit believers will be . So if God being Omnipresent , the logic is that he will be present in hell too .
Thank you so much for what you and the team does to show the world who God is and what is His plan for us. When life gets a bit rough and need a little encouragement, I turn to your book and the evidence of Christ's deity and His resurrection. Is there any other book in the works?
Yes Alantino, PERSON OF INTEREST releases next September
Love Jim, down to earth and follows the evidence…. Great work champ
The question is, why would a PERFECT, HOLY, and JUST God allow any of us to enter Heaven? To glorify Himself.
What shall we say then? Is there injustice with God? Absolutely not! For he says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then, it does not depend on human desire or exertion, but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh: “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may demonstrate my power in you, and that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then, God has mercy on whom he chooses to have mercy, and he hardens whom he chooses to harden. You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who has ever resisted his will?” But who indeed are you-a mere human being-to talk back to God? Does what is molded say to the molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special use and another for ordinary use? But what if God, willing to demonstrate his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience the objects of wrath prepared for destruction? And what if he is willing to make known the wealth of his glory on the objects of mercy that he has prepared beforehand for glory- even us, whom he has called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? ~ Romans 9:14-24 (NET)
“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.” John Milton, Paradise Lost
I have a question. In Luke 16:24 it talks about the rich man in hell asking for a drop of water on his tonge. I know we dont know his full life story. But it seems like the man is in the fire not just regret. Now I do share your beliefs on the different degrees of hell. It seems to me that the rich man's anguish is more severe than regret. Am I over looking or misunderstanding the context?
R White The Rich Man was not in hell, he was in a place called Hades. This is similar to the term “Abraham bosom” or Paradise. These are sort of holding tanks for people who have died but not been officially judged. No one is yet in their final assigned place. Hell and heaven are established only after the final judgement of mankind. I can’t answer your question about the pain he was suffering because I don’t know and I haven’t read any commentaries about it.
I believe that it is just a parable that explained a much bigger picture.
I appreciate that he is trying to move the social construct of hell to a more Biblical standpoint. He is juuuuust one step from where I was hoping. Hell, is most certainly not ECT. As humans, our soul and body are one. We do not have inherent immortality in some spirit form. Hell, is a total destruction and separation from God. Those that don't want to be with God, or do not want to be a part of his law of Love, cannot be allowed to stay in his universe. As long as there is wickedness in existence, there is sin. God wants to eradicate sin. Keeping people in some state of life in sin, simply does not fit.
Your view is not biblical at all. Where did you get these ideas? Our souls and bodies are certainly not one according to the Bible. Upon death the body returns to dust at whence it came and your soul goes to heaven or hell. To be absent from the body is to be at home with the Lord.
You say that we will not inherit immortality, although the Bible says that we will have an incorruptible body and there will be no more death. That would be immortality.
You say that people need to be eradicated that don’t want to be with God, says who? You say that God wants to eradicate sin, where is that in scripture? There is no sin in heaven but there is plenty in hell. If God wanted no sin then he could destroy sin and the earth anytime he wants. Remember God allowed sin when he gave people free choice.
Look to the Bible for the truth because someone has fed you lies. If you need the scripture ref for my view, let me know, for scripture is the only valid authority.
@@sandina2cents779 I'm sorry to say but u have no biblical evidence for your claim. We need biblical verses in their context and not suppositions...
James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead
How can it be apart if it is one?
Or perhaps one hypothesis might be that... One of the main issues for peoples' suffering in life is FEAR. Fear that comes eg. from the unknown (of future) or our belief that something bad will happen and that fear, not God, protects us and guides our life. I guess there would be no Heaven with fear in it. But why do we have fear? Because we do not trust God that everything is going to be the best version possible, cause God is love and is Allpowerful. We keep accusing God of wrong intentions and that we might know better how the world should be run. The lack of faith and mistrust to God creates fear as though we can fight against God's Will, instead of just obeying His best ever advice every second of life. So we keep on questioning His methods trying to find something wrong in His methods, which is pride. And only way to ever lose the fear is to have state of belief, not fear, when we are as Children fearing nothing under the protection of a Father God that is perfect in His methods. So perhaps God wants to throw at us everything scary so that we understand that no matter what happens, everything is under control, no matter how scary it is. So perhaps fear is to push us to perfect our faith and trust in God, so later no Snake will be able to make us question God again, without the necessity to take away our free will, cause even if the tree of knowing good and evil would be there, but when God says, "it's bad for you" we will be sure and without fear that it's so and will not believe God is a liar, but that He gives us the best advice ever and one shouldn't even bother questioning it.
And what if our minds have a natural tendency to create scary things all the time to the extreme without control, while God is blocking our abilities to dive into the worst evils that are unimaginably scary like the worst nightmares and much worse. But God keeps us from experiencing this and gives us only a taste of the madness that we could reach if left without His supervision. So if someone through the whole life decides that this fear is not enough He gets the more scary package to learn humility the hard way. God drops (part of) the shields that protect us from utter madness and this may be a part of what hell (or purgatory) is. And the way to not fall into this madness is trusting God fully. Madness of fear when we don't trust God.
And since people keep questioning God, He allows the distribution of evils among people so that not every person has to take all the evil personally, but only a part of it, so that in the end we have a chance to learn from other peoples' mistakes. But if someone's stubborn to the limits and disrespects God to the extreme perhaps it will end badly.
In the end God decides what is best. Either you believe that He is Almighty, Allknowing, Just, Merciful, Loving, etc. and thus you listen to Him, or ignore Him and risk consequences.
Ecclesiastes 8
4Since a king’s word is supreme, who can say to him, “What are you doing?”
5Whoever obeys his command will come to no harm,
and the wise heart will know the proper time and procedure.
6For there is a proper time and procedure for every matter,
though a person may be weighed down by misery.
7Since no one knows the future,
who can tell someone else what is to come?
8As no one has power over the wind to contain it,
so no one has power over the time of their death.
As no one is discharged in time of war,
so wickedness will not release those who practice it.
11When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.
Romans 9
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory- 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
If Hell is a place of eternal separation ("outer darkness") from God, who, amongst other things, could be considered the Source of Everything Good, then perhaps all of the weeping, wailing, and teeth-nashing that is going on is because you only get to experience everything that is NOT good forever. Maybe this feels like "eternal fire?" Or maybe the pain of separation from God is so excruciating, it feels like swimming in a "lake of fire?"
It is said in Genesis 1 that God seperated light from darkness, which might mean good from evil. And He decided light is good. Allows people to experience darkness and choose to reject it and choose light out of free will. And people who don't reject darkness are going to suffer due to wanting to be in it due to the nature of darkness that causes suffering of the soul by it's very nature.
Excellent ! 😊 thanks Jim 😁🙏
I think some people fail to recognize that people in hell are not alone. Demons live there too and they can do whatever they want to you, for however long they want, with absolutely no compassion or mercy. What’s to stop them? They can torture you and almost kill you over and over and yet you’ll never die. They mess with people here on earth, though limited, you think they will leave you alone there where there are no limits? Not a chance. If you think this is trying to scare you into serving God, you should be scared of hell. Before coming to Jesus, I dabbled in things I shouldn’t have (not drugs, not alcohol-rather spiritual) and I can tell you (whether you believe me or not... it’s true) demons are very real and incredibly incredibly strong and incredibly angry. Jesus saved me from them!
What is the minimal amount of punishment in hell? We don’t know, so I don’t think it’s a good idea to minimalize what it is. You’re not sitting in a dark space of regret. That’s not torment. How do I know? Because when Jesus told the story of the rich man and Lazarus, was the rich man just hanging out regretting? No! He was in absolute agony because of the fire and begging for even one drop of water. That tells us hell is painful, hot and awful at minimal.
Good news is it’s your choice to go there or not. Either you will pay for your own sin in hell or you will let Jesus pay for your sin and in gratitude love him, obey him, and follow him the rest of your days. I’ve seen what the other side to it is and it’s beyond terrifying. I choose Jesus. This is the truth and I gain nothing from lying about it. In fact, I risk people thinking I’m crazy, I know. But I felt led to share it for someone out there.
Fear can escalate to great proportions beyond a human's ability to resist. I used to have long terrifying realistic nightmares beyond perhaps anything seen in daylight sometimes night after night for years.
So perhaps nightmares are glimpses of a fraction of the fear of hell or purgatory. Cause if someone is not willing to submit to God under normal measures, more drastic ones are used.
That’s really well explained. I guarantee you families of murdered family members believe in hell.
But have you guys ever thought on how bizzar it is to send people to hell, say I steal a loaf of bread because I am hungry, or lets just say, I hate my boss cause he is mean, does that make me justible to go to hell?? Isn’t is a bit of an exaggiration??!
he doesn't...people send themselves to hell...just like people send themselves to jail....
Yes! You was waiting for him to point that out but he didn’t. Thank you for posting it.
So who sends innocent people to jail?
I've been trying to believe in God of the bible and Jesus for a while now.
You cant force yourself to believe. I am trying believe there is more but I'm not sure its God of the bible. So although i want to and try to search, I am apparently condemned to hell. I have several like me.
So sometimes it's not choice. Sometimes we sincerely try but struggle to believe.
I put it down to either I'm not chosen/ wanted or the God of the bible isnt real but there is a higher power but we just dont know much more than that.
Great vid...cheers ....GOD doesn't want anyone to go to hell.....but if by your words ...thoughts and deeds you let him know that you insist on going there....what can he do but oblige .
Grace and peace
Gilly wife of Mark
GOD doesn’t send anyone to hell. The people that go there choose to live their life separate from GOD and gives them every opportunity to change their mind and repent but we are not promised tomorrow. So follow Jesus. That’s literally what that means.
Perfect justice has no mercy; perfect mercy has no justice. God is merciful and just. He has, in mercy, given His Way to salvation through his Son, Yeshua, the Messiah, to allow us to not suffer the just consequences of our sins. All that is required is that we turn from our sins to God through his Son and endeavor to put our sins against God aside and show our commitment by showing love to our fellow humans. Perhaps that is too much for those who object to facing Hell.
God is the word definer and decide of what is what and what isn't. So if for Him there is justice in mercy to the one confessing sin with true regret and submitting to His Will willingly, then that is justice. Justice is what God decides to be justice. We cannot make human definitions of what is just to rule our minds.
Praise God!
What's hell (tradition) and what's the hell of the bible? 2 different things.
It's a great question but based on a false understanding if what “hell” is from a biblical point of view.
Let's start with the word hell it's self it means to cover like in the word helmet(head cover).
Now the word hell in scripture actually covers 4 different words from 2 different languages (Hebrew(aramaic? ) and Greek) sheol and Hades are equivalents and basically mean a pit or a hole in the ground.
Gehenna(valley of the son of hinnom) is the one that is translate hell fire but it is a name of a place outside of Jerusalem where in Jesus day they burnt the rubbish and unclaimed executed criminals bodies. And when Christ returns those that have heard of him and rejected him will be executed and their dead bodies thrown into the garbage dump.
The last word is only used once and it is tartaros and basically means abyss and is used in reference to what happened in numbers 16 during the Korah, Dathan and Abirim rebellion. It is not a place of eternal torment .
*[[Ecc 9:5]] KJ2000* For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecc 9:6 KJ2000 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun.
When you are dead you know nothing .
Do souls die ?? yes the soul that sins it shall die.
David said many times save my soul from death.
This life after death garbage steals from jesus the power of the ressurection and as he by being ressurected became the first fruits of them that sleep (dead) it nullifies the ressurection for the people who have died are not dead and it also makes God out to be a liar right from day 6 when he told Adam if he ate the fruit dying he would die but if he has an immortal soul (pfffft) he does not actually die does he so God lied.
The immortal soul nonsense causes to many biblical contradictions and makes our creator into a liar.
I still dont agree, but the theory of different levels of punishment i thiught of befofr and actually find more likely to be true
Yes, he will! But he came to earth to save us by taking our punishment of death for us. So he showed us his love by dying and resurrection for us. I disagree with you regarding the torture God will inflict on people who refuse to believe in him he most certainly will torture those sent to hell and for all eternity, Also Satan will be tortured also, so he does not rule hell, God does.
Sorry for the length of my reply.
In the context of your video, first let me say I used to believe the same as you.
Your quote: "Stop allowing our cultural definitions of hell to dictate what we believe about hell." Can't you see that's EXACTLY what you've done? I as well was exposed to the American justice system while residing with a District Attorney, so I know what evidence is. You've offered none my friend, but only a belief. Your belief would not hold up in any court of law and you know it! You're offering your opinion only, based on religious indoctrination caused by ignorance, then applying your carnal sense of justice to defining God's justice.
I was taught by the D.A.'s office that with all the laws on the books-they offer little to no deterrent to the majority of those who break them. With that said, you're trying to push something unproven and with no evidence of existence, as in the threat of hell as a reason for people to turn to God. It simply doesn't work any better than our present laws to keep people from breaking them.
Lastly, you speak of God's justice. In our justice system, would it be justice to enforce the death penalty for jaywalking? What you are promoting is far worse. You're endorsing an ETERNAL penalty for a short lifetime of unbelief (jaywalking). Then you manipulated the discussion by adding justice for the victim into the mix. However, you did offer a "degree" of punishment, but based on what? Your carnal sense of justice? Regardless, the degree you still speak of requires an eternal punishment for a short lifetime of wrong doing, and you call that justice based on nothing but conjecture, emotion, assumption, and tainted by your occupation.
There's is an answer to God's justice that doesn't require a pagan belief. It's called TRUST! Trust that death doesn't stop God from causing people to repent. (Context is about unbelievers) 1 Peter 4:6 - For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God. (I thought hell was eternal death).
Look... it's not my place to change your mind about anything-that's not my job, but it's the Spirit of God's responsibility. I can encourage you however to get educated to why the ancient Latin church inserted their pagan belief of hell into scripture, when it never existed in the oldest of Greek manuscripts and letters. Example: There's no mention of a devil nor hell in the Greek Septuagint circa the 3rd century BC, nor found in the Torah, the Teaching of Moses, the first five books. N: Nevi'im, the books of the prophets. Kh: Ketuvim. Yet, all of a sudden, what you're promoting pops into existence in 440 AD with the publication of the Latin Vulgate.
My hope is that you don't delete my comment, and that others who watch your video begin to question why they believe what they believe and investigate the evidence, instead of basing it on a belief (simply because it's in a Latin-based corrupted Bible), as you have done.
There is no hell. The word itself is not even in the Bible. It is an English word derived from Hela, the Norse goddess of death. The Bible teaches death and resurrection, not any sort of afterlife. Greco-Roman pagan ideology slowly adopted by an apostate Catholic church that now pervades Christendom, which claims to represent the god of the Bible. "This people honors me with their lips only; but their hearts are far removed from me".
The true God does not torture anyone. Death is the punishment for sin; all sin. From Adam on.
God doesn't send anybody to Hell, you do that yourself when you reject him.
I've been trying to believe in God of the bible and Jesus for a while now.
You cant force yourself to believe. I am trying believe there is more but I'm not sure its God of the bible. So although i want to and try to search, I am apparently condemned to hell. I have several like me.
So sometimes it's not choice. Sometimes we sincerely try but struggle to believe.
I put it down to either I'm not chosen/ wanted or the God of the bible isnt real but there is a higher power but we just dont know much more than that.
Yea. but. why would god create me knowing before creating me (since hes all knowing ) that i would go to hell. Nothing goes against your gods will says in. the bible. So yes, by definition ....god does send you to hell because he makes you that way.
The natural destination of all mankind is hell. For all have sinned and the wages of sin is death (separation from God). That is the Justice of God. But God, in mercy, sent Jesus to take all of our sin on himself and pay the price. That is the Love of God. Accept Jesus and his sacrifice to gain Mercy. Chose not to and get Justice. The choice is yours.
We can’t even conceive God.
There is no everlasting hell , yes some recieve greater punishment then others , REVELATION 20 v 14 "" and hell and death were cast into the lake of fire , this is the second death."" What state of consciousness are we in when we die ? We are asleep we have no consciousness Ecclesastic 9 v 5 " for the living know that they will die but the dead KNOW NOTHING " , w
You have to read the whole Ecclesiastes chapter 9. It says the dead no nothing that goes on under the sun. That means once you die you’re not watching loved ones on earth. You cannot intervening in their life or go visit them. And you assume Revelation 20, the second death means that you’re gone. That is an assumption. After the first death do you cease to exist? No, that what makes you think after the second death you would not exist? Revelation also says that the damned will be tormented a day and night forever and ever. Rev 14:11, rev 20:10 How can you be tormented forever and ever and not exist? I would absolutely love to believe what you’re saying but it is not biblical.
We will have consciousness, the spirit realm is way more real and more intense then the state we are in now. Read luke 16:24 New International Version
So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
perfect justice demand a perfect sacrifice and that was the Lamb of God who died for the world and took away the sin. Justice includes restitution. the offended and the offender both reconciled is the aim of biblical justice .. wages of sin is death...not eternal conscious torment in hell (which is pagan concept)...Thus says the LORD: "For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because he pursued his brother with the sword and cast off all pity, and his anger tore perpetually, and he kept his wrath forever. - Amos 1:11
To keep wrath perpetually or for ever Is one sign of wickedness.
But our God .. a prayer of David
God’s anger is momentary
3 O LORD, you have brought up my soul from Sheol (grave, realm of the dead, ‘hell ‘) you restored me to life from among those who go down to the pit.
4 Sing praises to the LORD, O you his saints, and give thanks to his holy name.
5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning. - Psalm 30:3-5
" it's worse, much worse, than a torture chamber". (Tim Keller). Conditionallism is more appropriate, or less unjust. Duration had to be factored in as well as intensity.
1:45 However, if the offender converts at the last second and believes in God, he will be welcome with open arms by God.
The Prodigal Son parable just proves what you say wrong, the offender returned to God, and was thrown a party for him at the expense of his brother's feelings. Who is portrayed as the bad guy, for not receiving his brother.
God seems to mostly care about those that worship him, over those that act good.
A serial killer converts to Christianity, he goes to heaven. A humanitrian who has dedicated their whole life to helping others, and has never done anything wrong, but is an atheist, then he goes to hell.
Anyone sane, looking into that scenario, could never describe that as just.
You can try and downplay hell all you want. But according to the bible he doesn't do it, to spare the feelings of the offended, he apparently does it because he wants to be worshipped. He blackmails everyone with the existance of Hell, just so people worship him. God, as depicted in the bible, is not loving, he is a narcissist.
You're falsely equating revenge with justice, as our "justice system" often does, taking it's cues, sadly, from the OT where it's an "eye for an eye". But that's not the justice of GOD. That's the justice that MAN wants. MAN wants revenge and to "even the scales" (See, right there, we think of justice as doling out punishment in like manner as to the crime). God doesn't take revenge on us. The CROSS proves this about God. God FORGIVES. EVERY. TIME. If you don't know that about God, then you are really ignoring the ministry, message and example of Jesus in His life and death.
Justice isn't people "getting what they deserve". In fact, it's just the opposite. Justice is everyone getting what God wants for them, which is to be healed and whole. It literally means for all things to be set right. People suffering because they caused suffering is not setting THEM right, and even worse the idea of people forever tortured. That sets NOTHING right. Setting things to rights cannot be accomplished through punishment and revenge, but only through reconciliation and deep love, for both victim AND perpetrator. Modeling God's "justice system" on what WE think of as justice is a a HUGE mistake. Our justice will never measure up to God's because His ways are higher than our ways (which, btw, in context is talking about His great MERCY). So, Hell simply doesn't fall within the realm of God's justice, but is a manifestation of MAN'S desire for punishment and revenge, ie. to "get even".
But what is GOD'S desire? For us to "Do justly, love mercy and walk humbly". Even in this verse He defines what doing justice looks like. It looks like mercy. If you are waiting for God to "get revenge" for Himself or for you by using Hell against His or your enemies, you have not yet learned how to do the things "required of you". Advocating for the hate and vitriol of "the victim", telling them they have a "right" to be appeased, does not heal them. It only prolongs the agony. Only in reconciliation and forgiveness is true peace found.
Hell cannot exist!!
Hell (especially in its traditonal sense as an eternal firey place of torment) can not exist and at the same time for God to be just and loving... here are several questions that illustrate this point :
A)Is there heaven and/or hell and what happens after we die. B)what happens to those who can not be held accountable like babies, mentally retarded people etc.? C)is it fair, loving and just for God to throw sinners (who did not ask to be created) in hell to be tormented for eternity on the basis of how they lived in this limited and often times short lifetime?
answers for questions A through C
a) there is heaven for those who did not violate the 10 commandments(at least in theory, we know we all have sinned maybe with the possible exception of Enoch or perhaps enoch's sins were so few that god was pleased with him) or those sinners who repented and kept the comandments before dying. the sacrifice of jesus atoned for our commited sins and showed us that we too can live a life free of sin as he did although he was jubjected to similar temptations as we are (Hebrews 4:15 NIV). So for those who still do not live a holy life by the time they are dead, they will be sent back to earth (unless god forgives them), reincarnated, in their same likeness.
b)those who cannot be held accountable will also be reincarnated on earth until they are holy and can enter heaven. Suppose those who can not be held accountable were automatically granted heaven, then that would lead to two different issues: 1)it would be unfair for those who lived passed the age of accountability (whatever that age is) and died in sin 2) it would mean that the most loving thing parents can do to ensure that their kids enter heaven is to kill them just before the age of accountability hence sparing them the high likelihood of spending eternaty in torment (if you think hell exist).
C)absolutely not, there just isn't there a justification that i can think of here that would make sense for a loving, caring & just god to punish sinners for eternity. But it would make far more sense for them to be reincarnated here on this earth for another chance to live by the desires of their spirit (the holy spirit which is love as apposed to living by the desires of the flesh)
supporting thoughts/bible verses:
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin.
Hebrews 4:15 NIV
As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.
1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 NIV
There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Ecclesiastes 1:11 KJV
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:13-14 NIV
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Galatians 5:16-26 NIV
what is a human being made of?
three parts; the body, the spirit that keeps us alive (holy spirit) and the soul (which is the mind, the consciousness, the memories, the identity gained through our thoughts, senses and life experiences).
supporting thoughts/bible verses:
“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’
Psalms 82:6 NIV
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
1 Corinthians 6:19 NIV
Related videos :
The Biblical Truth About Hell
ruclips.net/video/rvkgRy2KIdg/видео.html
Meaning of Hell in the New Testament
ruclips.net/video/fkel_o6kRIw/видео.html