Sword and Shield Tutorial: Optimal DPS Combos (MHW META)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @JinJinxandTuna
    @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад +39

    Thanks for checking out the video! We have those SnS META videos coming out very soon™
    We're also live on Twitch right now to hang out and answer questions so be sure to come drop by!
    Twitch.tv/tunatako

    • @mmrox4320
      @mmrox4320 5 лет назад

      Will adding evasion skill make SNS better

  • @JoCat
    @JoCat 5 лет назад +787

    finally...

    • @dragonspit77
      @dragonspit77 5 лет назад +21

      I knew you'd be here :D

    • @EdegarPereira
      @EdegarPereira 5 лет назад +36

      Fun isn't something one considers when using the best weapon for hunting monsters...

    • @SilverNightbane
      @SilverNightbane 5 лет назад +2

      @@dragonspit77 Ditto XD

    • @nskpsycho
      @nskpsycho 5 лет назад

      Your Amazon order of evoo arrived?

    • @davankrueger1725
      @davankrueger1725 5 лет назад

      yep

  • @brandonhedges719
    @brandonhedges719 5 лет назад +256

    Falling Bash - High DPS 3:07
    Slash Combo - Best for raw with high elemental 5:20
    Blade Waltz Combo - Focuses elemental more than raw 7:53
    Legacy Combo - Bread and Butter, able to maintain position but lower DPS 9:30

    • @youtubeenigma8316
      @youtubeenigma8316 5 лет назад +1

      Thank u

    • @mdjv
      @mdjv 4 года назад +4

      love you boy, i have hard time to see the difference beetween legacy and Slash, Legacy is the slash with minus a imput ?

    • @joverifico
      @joverifico 3 года назад

      so everything won?

  • @SirHusky654
    @SirHusky654 5 лет назад +111

    As an old school SnS player, I never liked World's SnS because it felt weak to and too unga bunga heavy, but now I see that I was using the wrong combos and World SnS feels a lot better now. This video helped a lot.

  • @joeavery388
    @joeavery388 5 лет назад +96

    Those backstep hits on AT Nergi were so beautiful

  • @MaestroNox
    @MaestroNox 5 лет назад +274

    Hey nice background footage guys

    • @Kavriel
      @Kavriel 5 лет назад +16

      Everytime you dodge an attack mid-combo with a backhop i have a slight orgasm. Yeah i was pretty messed up at the end of this video.

    • @TheTarv
      @TheTarv 5 лет назад +2

      Glad they worked with you. I've personally learned a lot about my favorite weapon (SnS duh) watching your stuff. Was hoping they would have you involved when this came around.

    • @JackboMack
      @JackboMack 5 лет назад

      MaestroNox that KT armor + rathalos SnS looked so good. 😍

    • @AkantorCZ
      @AkantorCZ 5 лет назад +2

      Sns is my most favorite weapon so you're huge inspiration for me, MaestroNox! I saw your video naked against Tigrex, that was very impressive. That made me realize that you are actually not using skill to increase evade window. If anything I would love learn how to dodge monster's attacks with perfect timing as you do.

    • @pooky9845
      @pooky9845 5 лет назад

      I watch maestronox regularly for SnS guidance and now I have commentary 😍

  • @BlueDragon1504
    @BlueDragon1504 Год назад +15

    For those wondering, DPS from perfect rush is higher than Bash (both elemental and raw), but doesn't flow into anything. I usually use it as a finisher.

    • @Jugement
      @Jugement 7 месяцев назад

      PR is always best when getting an opening. PR into roll before last hit into PR for large ones. Outside from that the best flow is just trying to dodge with backsteps into PR into roll if needed, rinse and repeat

  • @FLyyyT_
    @FLyyyT_ 5 лет назад +116

    From my own testing, evade extender 3 on sns back hop activates an EZ farcaster and brings you back to camp.

    • @tomsavage1461
      @tomsavage1461 5 лет назад +5

      Does it launch you forward the same distance when you go for the hit after the hop?

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 5 лет назад +1

      Evade extender on backhop is low-key the BLJ from Super Mario 64

  • @juanarboleda95
    @juanarboleda95 5 лет назад +12

    I never understood why i couldn't make good times with SnS. This might help me. Good Job guys.

  • @geraldbrown6874
    @geraldbrown6874 5 лет назад +100

    Where my Shield And Swords Day 1 Hunters At?! #SNSHYPE

  • @giggityman41
    @giggityman41 5 лет назад

    So world is my first MH game, I have over a thousand hours logged between xbone and ps4 and from both of them, I have less than 50 hunts with sns I think. Until now, it’s just kind seemed like an alien weapon to me since I couldn’t find much about how to use the weapon effectively except just “spam the falling bash until it’s dead.” This video has quickly become one of my favorite videos regarding this game and I hope this becomes a series for all the weapons. Y’all are the best Channel on this platform that posts MH content, please keep them coming!!

  • @Boredom_Incarnate
    @Boredom_Incarnate Год назад

    I realize I'm super late to the party on these but an obsession with numbers in games brought me to the channel. I wish there were videos like this on the rest of the weapons with this same focus on the math behind it.
    Also as someone who loves wordplay, Mathalos is a gem of a title.

  • @rezthemediaruler3768
    @rezthemediaruler3768 5 лет назад +3

    Finally a Video that gives SnS some credit and love. SnS is my first Weapon Choice in every Monster Hunter which none of my friends understands. This Video will explain it to them better than I ever could do. Thank you for the Video and Thank you for the "Unga Bunga Combo" -Name. I'll shout it everytime I'm going to perform it from now on. XD

  • @vargsong4534
    @vargsong4534 5 лет назад +14

    Started playing around with SnS a few days ago(Im CB main) and after watching this I realised somethin:... I'm a villain xD

  • @jachibel3280
    @jachibel3280 5 лет назад +8

    Finally! I've used SnS since release and a friend who played SnS in previous games SWORE that the Triangle+Circle combo while changing direction was the highest DPS combo. Thank you for really solidifying each and every combo in terms of efficacy. Hopefully this means I can get top DPS every now and then for hunts now :D
    Surprised you guys didn't talk about Advancing Slash > Jumpable Wall. I'm fairly certain that's the most damaging thing you can do with SnS in general when applicable, no?

    • @spartacus6256
      @spartacus6256 5 лет назад

      I would say it’s best for elemental SnS and the fact that you can mount with it hampers dps potential, as well as the fact it is extremely situational, can easily miss hitzones, and is not allowed in TA rules.

    • @noble3696
      @noble3696 5 лет назад

      @@spartacus6256 This message in its entirety is so fucked not only is the message making little sense but the reply is older than the first message.. wtf youtube

  • @BenTheBored
    @BenTheBored 5 лет назад +1

    Woo!! I'm glad that I'm aware of and use these combos in the right way!! Super cool to see this. Cannot WAIT for the meta sets to start arriving, kjarr and craftable!!

  • @cogvokan8100
    @cogvokan8100 5 лет назад +14

    One thing worth adding is, when slashing, you typically want to use as little spiral slash as possible. Spiral slash is a great combo extender but has absolutely atrocious dps. If you know your opening is longer than triple circle attacks, it's often better to extend the combo with light attacks at the beginning or extending with fall bash at the end, depending on your opening, raw/elemental ratio, and monster hit zone values.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 5 лет назад +1

    Bonus tip for mounting monsters. Once you get to the finisher attack you can hit the monster twice and then use the button for bracing to reset it, allowing you to hit the monster twice again, rinse and repeat. It is one of the easiest, albeit kind of cheesy way to get a free knockout and a good amount of damage on a monster.

  • @andrawisnu9955
    @andrawisnu9955 5 лет назад +25

    That backdash/hop dodge is triggering me....
    HOW DO YOU GET SO GOOD!!??

    • @devv197
      @devv197 5 лет назад +5

      From a Boom Lance main here, while gaurding hold L2 to lock your camera. Once you can do this pretty quick just do it and then press back and circle to always correctly do the back hop.

  • @Howl_3DN
    @Howl_3DN 5 лет назад

    Just restarted the game because circumstances and decided I would go all SnS. I always wanted to use it but was too attached to other weapons. Have loved it so far and after watching this I feel like dropping everything to get back into it! Thanks 😄

  • @Eirandir
    @Eirandir 5 лет назад

    SWEET! I was hoping for this!
    As a new hunter (MHW is my first MH game) and after falling in love with the SnS about 200 hours ago, I was still struggling with the combos, this helps a lot!

  • @mrnelsonius5631
    @mrnelsonius5631 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for doing this!! I’m a dedicated SNS user, and I tend to focus on the first (bash, obviously) and the third slashing combos almost exclusively. I find it hard not to inadvertently shield hit with the 2nd combo, and between slashing for element application, then quick positioning/evasion into failing bash when the opportunity presents, I can get into a good rhythm. Some monsters (like Luna’s wings when she KOs) really favor slashing over the bash combo. Ppl look down on SNS but I’m not great at games and can solo most of the AT elders sub 20 minutes, usually with zero carts. It’s the most flexible weapon IMO, particularly for solo hunters. Hopeful Iceborne’s new slash combo makes elemental even more viable :)

  • @DigitalinDaniel
    @DigitalinDaniel 5 лет назад +8

    Looking at your Rathalos SnS makes me really hope that Master Rank adds a Djinn design on Golden Radius x)

  • @dragonrazor1234
    @dragonrazor1234 5 лет назад +7

    ._. * See thumbnail *
    Me: where my highly intellectual JOCAT master

  • @pictux424
    @pictux424 5 лет назад

    Great video, very informative and the background footage is awesome. MaestroNox is amazing with SnS. Can't wait to see the meta sets videos, keep it up boys.

  • @astartespete
    @astartespete 5 лет назад +1

    played very little sns so this is invaluable, super job as always gents and thank you.

  • @cuentaalterna3754
    @cuentaalterna3754 5 лет назад +6

    i am sad, i really like the triple bash shield combo it feels so great to hit them in the face with the shield.

    • @TheLandsBetween1017
      @TheLandsBetween1017 5 лет назад +2

      Cuenta Alterna I use it all the time And it usually knocks a monster down when I use it. It’s so satisfying just hitting a monster in the face with that shield 🛡

    • @PseudOni_
      @PseudOni_ 4 года назад

      I mean... Sub-optimal doesn't mean unusable. Just do what you want

  • @arturocampero7915
    @arturocampero7915 5 лет назад

    We have waited so long and it is finally here

  • @grymjaw
    @grymjaw 5 лет назад

    Love you guys, been waiting forever for this

  • @lucafenni4750
    @lucafenni4750 5 лет назад +4

    Maestro Nox evading pepega slams like it's nothing 👏

    • @ejinathan
      @ejinathan 5 лет назад

      I think he used eva+3.

  • @不死原飴羽
    @不死原飴羽 5 лет назад

    yeah, that evil 3triangle and bash move drag me every time..glad you guys cover it in the video

  • @JackDblade
    @JackDblade 5 лет назад +4

    Watching this guy dance around with the back step makes me ashamed of my sns play. Gotta hit training mode again!

  • @Narakiomal
    @Narakiomal 5 лет назад +5

    So many S related puns XD
    Great video as usual guys :3

  • @mlk_ix2831
    @mlk_ix2831 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the music choice ♥️

  • @engelsramirez4886
    @engelsramirez4886 4 года назад

    Finally found the video that proved my theory about elements SnS vs non elemental SnS. I couldn’t do the rushing mounting attack with elemental sword and shields not matter how many times I tried

  • @howardevans1829
    @howardevans1829 5 лет назад

    I have been eagerly waiting for this

  • @nathaliem3423
    @nathaliem3423 3 года назад

    Shield charge: axe mode, elemental discharge (triangle+circle) before swing animation hit shield (r2)
    Sword charge: shield and charge (r2+circle) hold triangle until shield gets smaller, release

    • @sNsReal
      @sNsReal 5 месяцев назад

      That is for another weapon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mr.refinedsuzil.3450
    @mr.refinedsuzil.3450 5 лет назад

    Plz note that the falling bash spam does 5 hits. The initial forward leap is a 2 part attack. The first half of the leap itself does impact dmg and then you swing downward with the sword.
    Most ppl don’t realize this because it’s difficult to land and usually moreso problematic to try to position for it.
    I think honey hunter also has this listed incorrectly.

    • @JinJinxandTuna
      @JinJinxandTuna  5 лет назад

      It only occasionally does 5 hits. That exact situation is not always applicable.

  • @omjiiiboi1919
    @omjiiiboi1919 5 лет назад

    you can Roll X + Hold O (While weapon is unsheath) to start the Falling Bash Sequence when positioning is awkward.

  • @Aleay
    @Aleay 5 лет назад

    been waiting for this video for almost a year. thank you!!!!!!

  • @itosaga
    @itosaga 5 лет назад +2

    Oh wow i was just getting into SNS and this video pops up awesome timing
    Sorry Arrekz

  • @Ryees9
    @Ryees9 5 лет назад

    Fantastic compilation of information. This very much reminds me of Arrekz' videos from early early early MHW life where he posted the "how to" guides for all the weapons, in both quality and information presentation.

  • @Explicsit
    @Explicsit 5 лет назад

    Watched Your Lie in April a while ago and immediately recognized the background music. Fan-fucking-tastic.

  • @hungrydave
    @hungrydave 5 лет назад +2

    Fastest like I’ve ever given to a video! Love the SnS!

  • @reanukeeves2812
    @reanukeeves2812 5 лет назад +1

    Aaaaah I've been waiting for this

  • @RadioZ4p
    @RadioZ4p 4 года назад +1

    Isnt it time for the Perfect Rush update we got promised?

  • @hainanranger1958
    @hainanranger1958 5 лет назад

    I love you guys so much I watched like 4 minutes of adds xD. I dont really know how it works but I wont skip them again here.

  • @archmageguidla
    @archmageguidla 5 лет назад

    Thank you for this! I knew it had to be more complicated than just spamming falling bash - which doesn’t work so well because the monsters are moving and roars and . . . geometry. Will practice these and up my numbers.

  • @Heartless-Sage
    @Heartless-Sage 4 года назад

    As a SnS main I love to see the weapon get some love, looking forward to seeing your meta sets too. :)

  • @Msacct
    @Msacct 4 года назад

    TIL I've been playing SnS with great villainy. But now that I've seen this I'm gonna use it more

  • @Amberpawn
    @Amberpawn 5 лет назад

    Glad to see the SnS getting love... Been there since I started in Tri with some dalliances with its kids dual blades and charge blade.

  • @sayosatella3447
    @sayosatella3447 Год назад

    Definitely learned some new tricks to try with my sns collection.

  • @ricklkkwok
    @ricklkkwok 5 лет назад

    Tuna & Jinx! Before you guys do the max deeps sets, please take a look at the Razor Sharp sets! Long story short, if you do a balls to the walls 100% Affinity with Agi 5, Peak 3 with Styx, you can get 490 EFR! You cannot get this with the Drachen set!

  • @TheRealChacorta
    @TheRealChacorta 9 месяцев назад

    Im a glaive and LBG user. Recently I got bored and tried SnS. Immediate fell in love (I have Fat gear)

  • @JinBaigujing
    @JinBaigujing 5 лет назад

    Just started the game three weeks ago and I really needed this to become a location apprentice

  • @mr.refinedsuzil.3450
    @mr.refinedsuzil.3450 5 лет назад +5

    14:17 guard slash not even getting mentioned. It serves no purpose other than to make noobs fail the input for charged backstep

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 5 лет назад +1

      It's good for setting up bombs, not that it really would matter in the age of slinger anymore

  • @Kurosakio
    @Kurosakio 5 лет назад

    So, I never really liked SnS before actually learning the weapon, now that I know the dos and don'ts I think I'll give it another chance

  • @BudokaiTH
    @BudokaiTH 5 лет назад

    So damn satisfying just watching Nergigante get his tail whipped by S&S so damn easily. I'm still nervous about fighting that thing because his omni-hitboxes.

  • @Rhams3y
    @Rhams3y 5 лет назад

    MaestroNox is an artist with the SnS.

  • @MisstyChick
    @MisstyChick 5 лет назад

    I love SnS! Can’t wait for the META Sets!

  • @prosoccer95
    @prosoccer95 4 года назад

    Woulda been nice to hear a tiny bit about elements to use but still had the best info iv seen yet by FAR

  • @heathenmonk1249
    @heathenmonk1249 5 лет назад

    I go with a support SNS set with slugger 3 and spam the shield bash combo, not the best dps but evreyone loves you.

  • @amurika6336
    @amurika6336 5 лет назад +2

    Short reach > All. Biggest problem I am tired of chasing

  • @pblivingston
    @pblivingston 5 лет назад

    I foresee great things for this tutorial series.

  • @Harrison11106
    @Harrison11106 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this, I'll try some of these combos out. For me, it felt that the S&S simply didn't have the "umph" I want when it came to damage, although I like it's speed & defense.

  • @hucape
    @hucape 5 лет назад

    Omg I'm so happy with this video ❤️❤️

  • @rahabareazuddinpranto5031
    @rahabareazuddinpranto5031 10 месяцев назад

    Informative stuff! thanks

  • @allanmiguel8805
    @allanmiguel8805 5 лет назад

    Finally SnS!! Thanks guys!

  • @HatakeHyei
    @HatakeHyei 4 года назад

    Beethoven playing in the background. I see you are a man of culture.

  • @theslylemon3868
    @theslylemon3868 5 лет назад

    We now have the sacred texts of the sword and shield. Praise be.

  • @redacted144
    @redacted144 5 лет назад +1

    Somewhere, lurking in the chat, a wild Jocat

  • @fawzanfawzi9993
    @fawzanfawzi9993 5 лет назад +6

    This video on SnS combo is more complex than the entire Pokemon SnS

  • @jcm2789
    @jcm2789 5 лет назад

    Can't wait for the SnS Meta builds

  • @Dave_Chrome
    @Dave_Chrome 5 лет назад

    I'll admit, I really did think that the Falling Bash combo was the only one that was truly optimal at all times. Thank you for educating me haha. I still think that for varieties sake the motion values should be nerfed for that attack (or all other attacks buffed), but the stun value either stays the same or gets buffed.
    Something just rubs me the wrong way when such a simple SNS combo of all things gets heavy stun AND long abusable i-frames. Not to mention the air time which makes it even safer a lot of the time.

  • @wingsofhermes98
    @wingsofhermes98 5 лет назад +1

    the thing that bothers me about the triangle+ triangle+ triangle +circle+circle+circle is that i allways end up doing the shield and thats because im used to push myself to the monster

  • @frangrowl9012
    @frangrowl9012 5 лет назад

    Very informative video. I've just gotten MHW and since I'm a MH n00b all this is very new to me. Could you do more Optimal DPS Combos (MHW META) videos please? Like for DB and other weapons? TYVM

  • @whinemax
    @whinemax 3 года назад +1

    Now that Perfect Rush has been buffed, isn't it just straight up best?
    Of coursed used sparingly and when appropriate

  • @Foundation012
    @Foundation012 5 лет назад

    Oh man, please do more videos like this!

  • @Kyrinson
    @Kyrinson 4 года назад

    Great info! ... though I actually came here for a reminder on what combo's the SnS are good with because I hadn't used it in a while... Still awesome!

  • @dave5566
    @dave5566 5 лет назад

    May I ask what layered armor are you using in those arena footage, the red ones. Looks really good, plz let me know :)

    • @MirrenTheDragonKnight
      @MirrenTheDragonKnight 5 лет назад

      I believe it is almost all the blossom layered set, with the waist swapped for the layered brigade coil

  • @Vikesfan2219
    @Vikesfan2219 5 лет назад

    We're you guys gunna do builds too? I don't think I've seen builds fo and from you guys yet. And this is my go to place

  • @IZUMI_SAGIRI
    @IZUMI_SAGIRI 5 лет назад

    That "how----evur" gets me everytime.
    I love your Channel 👌

  • @effteadoubleyou
    @effteadoubleyou 5 лет назад +1

    i shouldn't be smiling like an idiot watching a vid about sns but here i am c:

  • @kurtcobane1762
    @kurtcobane1762 5 лет назад +1

    I was an sns main back in mhfu didn't use it in world because it seemed subpar
    Looked up this video
    Welp I'm an and main again

  • @mdjv
    @mdjv 4 года назад

    Hey guys, love your work and your humour ! love you !
    I have hard time to see the difference beetween legacy and Slash combo, Legacy is the slash with minus a RoundSlash ?
    What about the slashing moove after any attack triangle + cercle, what is its use ? its basicly a RoundSlash :)

  • @sunbro9076
    @sunbro9076 5 лет назад

    I'm really looking forward to all the new and updated videos once Iceborne is released

  • @glaiveking2530
    @glaiveking2530 5 лет назад

    The only weapon ivent explored yet besides ignoring hh and gl

  • @ADHDed
    @ADHDed 5 лет назад

    Thx for guide,but I have one question,what I noob,need craft to kill all content?From Nergigante or something non elemental?Be great to get answer :P

  • @TheSpectralFX
    @TheSpectralFX 4 года назад

    THANKS A LOT
    Has an SNS main who used to play on the Wii (MH : Trii) I was having quite a hard time figuring out why my main (and moslty only) weapon was feeling so off.
    I couldn't put my finger on anything other than the fact that the bread and butter combo was just ... not working anymore for some reason.
    Man ... all those shield bash I did... will the SNS god EVER FORGIVE?

  • @vladislavdanmaku9141
    @vladislavdanmaku9141 5 лет назад +3

    I really enjoy how a so called "entry level support weapon" gets its own 20 mintues video.

  • @cheylapatton6463
    @cheylapatton6463 5 лет назад +1

    what is the build you are using on the nergigante fight if you dont mind me asking?

  • @spacetaco048
    @spacetaco048 5 лет назад +3

    Aw yes. The good old way of making something simple something way more confusing.
    But I'm pretty sure what you said is "just spam triangle, left stick, and circle lol"

  • @AshnSilvercorp
    @AshnSilvercorp 5 лет назад

    *a wild JoSniffy appears. He says SnS is statistically the best weapoon. Will you challenge him?*
    Yes
    No
    > No but in red

  • @Brawneteer
    @Brawneteer 4 года назад +1

    Can someone tell me what the hell "pepsi b" is?

  • @zuxx00
    @zuxx00 5 лет назад +2

    What was Pepsi B again? I feel like I've heard them talking about it before.

    • @slicksalamander72
      @slicksalamander72 5 лет назад +3

      zuxx00 it’s Power Elemental Phial Charge Blade = PEPCB = PEPSI B

    • @zuxx00
      @zuxx00 5 лет назад

      @@slicksalamander72 of course! Thanks! Lol! Brain, you failed me once again!

    • @slicksalamander72
      @slicksalamander72 5 лет назад

      zuxx00 I love me some elemental charge blade

  • @boerny6757
    @boerny6757 5 лет назад +1

    Somehow I struggle putting out the spiral slash (directional + triangle). 50% of the time it goes circle + circle + circle *end* triangle (chop)
    even trough I defenetly hit the left stuck in a direction. Is the any trick to it I might not now?

  • @MaximilianVII7th
    @MaximilianVII7th 4 года назад

    Anyway do you guys know that you can Press Roll -> cancel into Back Hop --> Charged slash ---> Falling Bash ? sometime i closed my distance using roll forward and i charged slash + falling bash :)

  • @Weavermicro
    @Weavermicro 5 лет назад

    Where's the love button? Finally, my favorite weapon gets an Optimal DPS video and I can't love it? YT why?

  • @silarkin202
    @silarkin202 3 года назад

    I'm sad that my favourite weapon is so difficult to use, but i don't give up... i try my best to master it.

  • @paralykeet-
    @paralykeet- 5 лет назад

    I absolutely adore this guide. If you were to supplement it, or make it more newbie friendly though; I think the best way to do it would simply be to make it a guide about learning the right moments to cancel through the Spiral Slash. Since, it even cancels out the dreaded SnS combo if the player mashes the directional input too quickly to cancel into the next string. Once that's mastered, the rest becomes about learning that timing to cancel out unwanted shield bashes and overheads (they have their place- but are goal oriented for finishing KOs or cutting tails- but never as mainstays) when they aren't wanted without having to roll.
    Tbh, I feel like that has a higher overall impact on juicing the most out of the SnS's pokes and strings (as opposed to the more advanced principles tackled in this video about getting all of the extra Thrust chips. The Waltz Combo is probably easiest to practice as "Light, Light, Reset" Even though the full string can be "Light, Light, Rest, Light Light, Light, Reset, Light, Light, Light, Reset" but "Waltzing" on the 3 count for practice helps someone develop the muscle memory to know when they can reset with the Spiral Slash. Since it only starts as a Waltz, and then returns to even meter. However, practicing it as a Waltz for both Light and Heavy combos and learning to reset on the 3-count as habit opens the doors to how fluid the SnS can be when building strings- optimized, or just with enough resets to be efficient.) Newer players tend to struggle with the idea of creating animation rotations- and mastering the Spiral Slash ties that down as a concept, and getting more clever strings out of your SnS at the same time.