@@teohyc Correct grammar here would be "unless I was" instead of "unless I'm". And yet no one misunderstood what you were saying. Isn't it incredible how people aren't complete morons and can understand slight deviations from 'perfect English'?
Confused between MS Go and Apple Ipad 2018 Getting ready for Master Degree in Economy so taking notes, searching, and some Microsoft Office Work. So what you suggest?!
Desktop version of Office has more functionality so I would go with that and Surface Go. Note that you will have to factor in price of the Surface Go Type Cover because, in my opinion, the Microsoft virtual keyboard isn't as intuitive to type on as the iPad's. No need to get the Alcantara version of the keyboard as the standard keyboard looks and feels very durable, and the typing surface is easier to clean. Surface Pen is another US $100. Another major plus for the Surface Go is the file system is typical OS file system which is familiar to anyone. iOS file system is sometimes very frustrating.
What did you go with? I've been kicking around the same decisions except now the 2019 iPad Air has entered the conversation. I want it for notes more than anything for my MBA program and I'm planning nursing school.
Do u already have a laptop? I think surface is more of a laptop than a tablet.... and it's note taking experience is not very comfortable in my opinion. It's too much of a complicated device for note taking. I'd prefer a simple iPad. U can use ur regular laptop for writing essay n stuff.
I like watching your videos, but I don't particularly care for writing on tablets. I love the feel of pen and pencil to paper, the smooth crisp lines of a quality pen and the scratchy yet soft feel graphite making its mark. I'll use a tablet or phone for a quick note if I don't have my pocket pad and pen or pencil. With technology making leaps and bounds forward with no signs of slowing down, I hope traditional media will never die out. That'd be a crying 😭 shame. Thanks for sharing the writing demonstration. 👍 😄
James, I'm the same. I can't take notes/write on a glass surface, there's something about pen and paper for taking notes. That said, I've often wondered why companies like Microsoft, Apple, et al, don't put a special coating on the screen or make the pen have that "drag" that would make it feel more like paper? I would switch then, but as long as it feels like plastic slip sliding across glass, I'll stick with pen and paper.
I think the only thing at this point that comes close are the digital pens with textured tips. Even then it's really no comparison. With time it seems there's an invention for everything. I hope down the road we'll eventually transparencies, completely clear paper with a textured surface. What I have now is Canson's Vidalon Vellum which is as close to the above ^ as I've seen.
Hum, my mother who is 70 needs a device to help her write her book. We're considering this thing, reMarkable and a few other devices. I'm not sure what the best option is...
@@teohyc She's 70. Tech really isn't her thing. Add arthritis to it all... So yeah, if she can write by hand that would be best. *Typing* a book on a tablet would be a nightmare for her. We're not just talking about one or two documents, but a whole *book*. And the thing has to be simple enough for her to actually manage to use it day to day despite her not knowing the difference between a website and a browser for instance...
@@teohyc Thank you for the suggestion. What makes the iPad easier though? Let's just say that I'm *not* Apples biggest fan. I'm of half a mind to buy the Surface Go and install Linux on it and try to customize a distro for her and what she wants to do. Actually dealing with setting up Linux or anything else is *way* beyond what she is able to do. But if I can reduce it all to simple one button presses for each thing she needs then perhaps it's not too bad. And being open source I can write my own scripts and programs to help her make that work with time. The downside just the massive amount of work that would entail. And I haven't really found all that much out there to help me with that yet...
@@teohyc What is better for electronic note taking (i mean writing with stylus) surface Pro or Surface Go? Is there a no-glare mode (like in Sony Digital paper/Kindle)
@@bimindu Both use Surface Pen so writing experience will be similar. If you're just using it for note taking, Surface Go is cheaper, more portable, lighter.
if I didn’t have a desktop pc I would like a surface instead of an ipad. Are you going to buy the new ipad pro that will come out in october 30? Cause I will be waiting for your review before i decide to buy the new one or the 2017 one. I hope you’ll be able to make a review before december, that’s when i will get an ipad. Also thanks for the thorough review.
@@teohyc Would you say the S-Pen of the Tab S4 or the new Tab S6 provides a more superior writing experience over the Go's Surface Pen? I think the pros of the slightly more expensive Tab S6 that includes the S-Pen outweigh the pros of the Go. Of course the Tab S6 runs Android, Go runs Windows but Samsung does a really good job of altering their version of Android to include useful ways to use the S-Pen. Curious on your thoughts. Loved the video.
If the main use is for handwriting, get the cheaper Surface Go. Or if the iPad Pro 2017 is comparable in price, then maybe get the iPad Pro. But for handwriting, it's not worth it to spend so much. Both are capable tablets at handwriting.
I'm so confused if I should buy Ipad air 2019, surface go or wait for surface go 2. But schools starts before it releases or even reach our side of the world. Why do they have to release it so late?
i've been watching your videos for the past hour or so, and i want to know what you think the best tablet is for a high school student looking for something to take notes and write essays with! i've been interested in the surface go for a while but i want to make sure i make the right decision. thank you in advanced!
@@xerealis I played around with it in best buy for about 40 minutes yesterday. (Note: I was writing with the bamboo ink on One Note). Something that I tested quite extensively just to make sure it would work well, was writing without looking. This is something that I do in classes, so that I can keep my eyes on the board while writing down everything. The surface go worked perfectly. I can write without looking, it's big enough so that I won't accidently go off the screen, and it's also thin enough so when I'm getting close to the edge of the screen, I can rest my hand on the desk without a problem. I'm looking into buying the higher end one right now.
Do you suggest a screen protector if note taking is the primary use ? What will give the surface pro 6 or surface go the best writing on paper experience?
Surface Pen has good friction on the screen. When writing, it's not that slippery. I personally don't think a screen protector is needed unless it's to protect against scratches.
They are more or less similar. I won't be able to tell them apart. For note taking, just get one within your budget. I would say the Surface Pen and Apple Pencil feels better for writing.
Hi Teoh. I know it's not a question about film but I watch your channel mostly for watercolors :) What paper or sketchbook for watercolour do you recommend? I used some but couldn't find ideal paper with nice sufrace which not too thick or thin and good enough.
Sketchbooks from Hahnemuhle, Global Art Materials, Stillman Delta and Beta are not bad for watercolour. Fabriano Studio too. These are all more affordable options. www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolour-sketchbook-artists
@@teohyc thank you for taking the time to reply to me. In the short time between replies I brought a used Surface Go on eBay for $318 USD (including tax and shipping). It's the 4GB RAM model. Just waiting for shipping now. I plan on trying to use this as digital paper, replacing anything that doesn't need to be on a physical sheet of paper all of the time. I decided on the Surface Go over others because I like how open the hardware is. I can truly run whatever I want without jumping though much hoops like the iPad. I'm also a Linux user and plan on running Linux full time on this tablet. From what I gather online, everything works under Linux after some set up except for the cameras, which is good because I never expected to make much use of the cameras anyways. I'm still going to put some sort of privacy cover over those cameras. Camera support seems to be in the works though, not that I'm that concerned.
I like to use Wacom Bamboo Paper to take notes. If you need to convert your handwriting into editable text, you can use MyScript Nebo www.myscript.com/nebo/ Or if you want to store notes on the cloud, accessible everywhere, Microsoft OneNote.
For note taking, Surface Go and iPad are evenly matched. For drawing iPad is better because the drawing apps are, in my opinion, better designed. But handwriting apps on Windows, iOS and Android are all very capable.
Thank god I didn't buy this device. I got the Samsung counterpart instead, the Galaxy book 10.6. It comes with the same price, just with the pen and keyboard included. The Stylus is superior, so is the processor. The only downsides are a very limited range of accessories, less battery life and a worse folio cover. Its successor even reduces its downsides.
@@jackien21 For the same reason why I type all my comments, as much as possible, with proper grammar, punctuation and upper and lower case. So that there's no way people can misunderstand or not understand what I'm saying.
Palm Rejection refers to a feature that changes the way that the touch screen determines what is considered a 'touch'. Basically, when the tablet detects the tip of the stylus near the screen it turns off the rest of the screens touch sensitivity. This allows you to rest your hand on the screen while you write with the stylus . Without palm rejection you have to hold your hand away from the screen while you write. The Surface Go supports palm rejection when used with an 'active' stylus such as the MS Surface Stylus.
I don't like Bamboo Paper. It's great for taking notes but not so for doing tutorials in Physics and Maths calculus. This app does not have an infinite x and y axis space therefore it does not go well with tutorials. Additional complaint, surface pro has an annoying defect, but I'am not sure if MS go has the same defect. That is you cannot write with your palm on the screen when your MS surface is charging, intermittent but when you disconnect the charger, it works! And that ladies and gentlemen, is a big turn off! Frequently discussed in the MS forum but no answer to that yet (Alot of the reply by admin is, are you using microsoft one note, blablabla ). SO beware! Oh I'm using surface pro i5 1796 model. But without a doubt, ms one note has excellent tools for use in maths subject/physics, etc but the lack of digital full scape with infinite x and y axis, is a big turn off
OneNote response looks amazing!
Dude, I wish I had your penmanship! Its beautiful!
Eventhough this video outputs at 30 FPS, I can hardly notice the latency on OneNote. Looks just like a pen on paper
I did not notice latency unless I'm specifically looking out for it.
iPad Pro is even better. Surface doesn't have the 120Hz screen technology.
@@sukkeri I agree but at that price point the Go isn't a deal-breaker.
kaneli you should talk when you’re not running a mobile operating device...
@@teohyc Correct grammar here would be "unless I was" instead of "unless I'm". And yet no one misunderstood what you were saying. Isn't it incredible how people aren't complete morons and can understand slight deviations from 'perfect English'?
Good video, very informative!
Where to enable the strict palm rejection setting for the microsoft one note？
Confused between MS Go and Apple Ipad 2018
Getting ready for Master Degree in Economy so taking notes, searching, and some Microsoft Office Work.
So what you suggest?!
Surface go bcos u can dload the full version of microsoft. Ipad can only dload the tablet version. Note taking - ipad is superior.
Desktop version of Office has more functionality so I would go with that and Surface Go. Note that you will have to factor in price of the Surface Go Type Cover because, in my opinion, the Microsoft virtual keyboard isn't as intuitive to type on as the iPad's. No need to get the Alcantara version of the keyboard as the standard keyboard looks and feels very durable, and the typing surface is easier to clean. Surface Pen is another US $100. Another major plus for the Surface Go is the file system is typical OS file system which is familiar to anyone. iOS file system is sometimes very frustrating.
NO DOUBT the SURFACE GO!
What did you go with? I've been kicking around the same decisions except now the 2019 iPad Air has entered the conversation. I want it for notes more than anything for my MBA program and I'm planning nursing school.
Do u already have a laptop? I think surface is more of a laptop than a tablet.... and it's note taking experience is not very comfortable in my opinion. It's too much of a complicated device for note taking. I'd prefer a simple iPad. U can use ur regular laptop for writing essay n stuff.
which device should i buy for note taking purpose at this moment ?
writing your all-caps alphabet with a lowercase f triggered me! but i still liked the video, thank you for making it
I like watching your videos, but I don't particularly care for writing on tablets. I love the feel of pen and pencil to paper, the smooth crisp lines of a quality pen and the scratchy yet soft feel graphite making its mark. I'll use a tablet or phone for a quick note if I don't have my pocket pad and pen or pencil. With technology making leaps and bounds forward with no signs of slowing down, I hope traditional media will never die out. That'd be a crying 😭 shame. Thanks for sharing the writing demonstration. 👍 😄
I just make this video since I have the tablet. Thanks for your support on watching even it's not your type of video :-D
I like watching anything video you make. There's a standard of excellence you adhere to in everything you do here and elsewhere.
James, I'm the same. I can't take notes/write on a glass surface, there's something about pen and paper for taking notes. That said, I've often wondered why companies like Microsoft, Apple, et al, don't put a special coating on the screen or make the pen have that "drag" that would make it feel more like paper? I would switch then, but as long as it feels like plastic slip sliding across glass, I'll stick with pen and paper.
I think the only thing at this point that comes close are the digital pens with textured tips. Even then it's really no comparison. With time it seems there's an invention for everything.
I hope down the road we'll eventually transparencies, completely clear paper with a textured surface. What I have now is Canson's Vidalon Vellum which is as close to the above ^ as I've seen.
My surface go doesnt have bluetooth to comnect to the Mouse and pen which i just bought -.-
Hum, my mother who is 70 needs a device to help her write her book.
We're considering this thing, reMarkable and a few other devices.
I'm not sure what the best option is...
Write? As it writing with hand or typing?
@@teohyc She's 70.
Tech really isn't her thing.
Add arthritis to it all...
So yeah, if she can write by hand that would be best.
*Typing* a book on a tablet would be a nightmare for her.
We're not just talking about one or two documents, but a whole *book*.
And the thing has to be simple enough for her to actually manage to use it day to day despite her not knowing the difference between a website and a browser for instance...
@@Luredreier Maybe get the iPad 6 with Apple Pencil? That would be easier to use.
@@teohyc Thank you for the suggestion.
What makes the iPad easier though?
Let's just say that I'm *not* Apples biggest fan.
I'm of half a mind to buy the Surface Go and install Linux on it and try to customize a distro for her and what she wants to do.
Actually dealing with setting up Linux or anything else is *way* beyond what she is able to do.
But if I can reduce it all to simple one button presses for each thing she needs then perhaps it's not too bad.
And being open source I can write my own scripts and programs to help her make that work with time.
The downside just the massive amount of work that would entail.
And I haven't really found all that much out there to help me with that yet...
@@Luredreier The iPad apps are all simple 1-click stuff. It's very intuitive and simple to use.
Do a Surface Pro 6 review for writing, thanks
It's not going to perform any different from this or the previous Surface Pro.
@@teohyc What is better for electronic note taking (i mean writing with stylus) surface Pro or Surface Go?
Is there a no-glare mode (like in Sony Digital paper/Kindle)
@@bimindu Both use Surface Pen so writing experience will be similar. If you're just using it for note taking, Surface Go is cheaper, more portable, lighter.
@@teohyc Thank you
Looks like Squid is not in the Microsoft Store, need to update from Windows 10 S mode I guess.
Could you review it w/ Word?
if I didn’t have a desktop pc I would like a surface instead of an ipad. Are you going to buy the new ipad pro that will come out in october 30? Cause I will be waiting for your review before i decide to buy the new one or the 2017 one. I hope you’ll be able to make a review before december, that’s when i will get an ipad. Also thanks for the thorough review.
I'll be getting the new iPad Pro when it comes out. Will be comparing it with the 2017 model. Expect a comprehensive (and long) review as usual. :-D
Teoh Yi Chie thanks
I am also waiting for Teoh's ipad pro 2018 notetaking review.
how about the surface pro 6..will you review it ?
One note is olsa so perfect...
Can we use white paper without lines...?
You can
Can you recommend a tablet for note taking purposes.
🙂
This one, Samsung Tab S3 or S4, iPad 2018
@@teohyc Would you say the S-Pen of the Tab S4 or the new Tab S6 provides a more superior writing experience over the Go's Surface Pen? I think the pros of the slightly more expensive Tab S6 that includes the S-Pen outweigh the pros of the Go. Of course the Tab S6 runs Android, Go runs Windows but Samsung does a really good job of altering their version of Android to include useful ways to use the S-Pen. Curious on your thoughts. Loved the video.
@@ArthurZakaryan23 S Pen and Surface Pen tips are quite similar. Surface Pen is thicker and I find that more comfortable to hold.
2:55 jaggies - sure its not caused by movement of your hand and the Surface?
Since my hand is not moving jaggly, it's probably not that.
How were you able to use Squid on a Windows tablet since Squid is an Anrdoid app?
Squid was still available on Windows at the time I made the video
@@teohyc Thanks. I didn't know that Squid was ever available on Windows.
Can you please make a comparison video between surface go vs ipad pro (any of them) in handwriting
If the main use is for handwriting, get the cheaper Surface Go. Or if the iPad Pro 2017 is comparable in price, then maybe get the iPad Pro. But for handwriting, it's not worth it to spend so much. Both are capable tablets at handwriting.
Also the surface pen has a one year battery life
So on the Microsoft go you can also just put your hand in the screen while writing yes?
Yes. There's palm rejection.
I’m just listening to the ASMR
I'm so confused if I should buy Ipad air 2019, surface go or wait for surface go 2. But schools starts before it releases or even reach our side of the world. Why do they have to release it so late?
If you already have a computer, get the iPad.
@@teohyc ipad pro
i've been watching your videos for the past hour or so, and i want to know what you think the best tablet is for a high school student looking for something to take notes and write essays with! i've been interested in the surface go for a while but i want to make sure i make the right decision. thank you in advanced!
The Surface Go is great at taking notes. Better at that than for drawing actually.
@@teohyc Is it big enough for note taking?
@@xerealis I played around with it in best buy for about 40 minutes yesterday. (Note: I was writing with the bamboo ink on One Note).
Something that I tested quite extensively just to make sure it would work well, was writing without looking. This is something that I do in classes, so that I can keep my eyes on the board while writing down everything.
The surface go worked perfectly. I can write without looking, it's big enough so that I won't accidently go off the screen, and it's also thin enough so when I'm getting close to the edge of the screen, I can rest my hand on the desk without a problem.
I'm looking into buying the higher end one right now.
james wasda
May I know how you make the lines on one note? At 3:16
Click on pen tool and then click on 3 dotted line
The options for ruled lines should be available
Do you suggest a screen protector if note taking is the primary use ? What will give the surface pro 6 or surface go the best writing on paper experience?
Surface Pen has good friction on the screen. When writing, it's not that slippery. I personally don't think a screen protector is needed unless it's to protect against scratches.
There is a paperlike screen protector that feels and sounds just like writing on paper and that is the name of it "paperlike"
Is it still good here in 2019 and Will it be good after christmas🤗
Still alright. Depends on what you want to do on it
@@teohyc i will use it for school. Is it good for that🤞🏻
which one would you say best preserve your handwriting? Lenovo miix 520 vs surface vs Apple pencil
They are more or less similar. I won't be able to tell them apart. For note taking, just get one within your budget. I would say the Surface Pen and Apple Pencil feels better for writing.
with the nebo "hand writing recognize" is it only for english or supporting other lang. e.g. turkish
Probably just English
I'm into bullet journal. Taking notes and drawing at the same time. Any recommendations?
This works well. But if it is just for note taking. IPad 6 is cheaper.
Do you use a mobile version of one note?
Dude I can see the lag. Like I can see it
It always recognises hand + pen input. How can I have pen only ?
You can, but you have to go into Windows registry to turn off touchscreen functionality. Google the procedure
I hate the smoothening software effect in Microsoft OneNote. iOS thankfully doesn’t have that shit in OneNote
Which one has less latency, Galaxy Tab S4 or the Surface GO/Surface Pro? Which one would you recommend for note taking and drawing?
Tab S4 seems to have less latency. But very similar
how about editing/writing on power point converted to pdf apps?
I'm sure it can be done. You just need to find the right app
just like on android its hard to look for the right app. only good thing with apples ipad is theres a lot of app made for ipads. thanks anyway
Hi Teoh. I know it's not a question about film but I watch your channel mostly for watercolors :) What paper or sketchbook for watercolour do you recommend? I used some but couldn't find ideal paper with nice sufrace which not too thick or thin and good enough.
Sketchbooks from Hahnemuhle, Global Art Materials, Stillman Delta and Beta are not bad for watercolour. Fabriano Studio too. These are all more affordable options. www.parkablogs.com/content/best-watercolour-sketchbook-artists
Thank you, I'll definitely check them out. I hope I'll find my favourite finally :)
Can i ask if your palm/hand is on the screen surface while you were writing?
Yes. There is good palm rejection
I had the same question and was scrolling, thank you for asking and thank you for answer..
Is this the 4GB RAM model or 8GB RAM model?
8gb
@@teohyc Do you think that less RAM will make an impact on note taking?
I don't think so. But if you're just going to be getting it for writing, get the iPad 2018 with Apple Pencil which may be cheaper.
@@teohyc thank you for taking the time to reply to me. In the short time between replies I brought a used Surface Go on eBay for $318 USD (including tax and shipping). It's the 4GB RAM model. Just waiting for shipping now.
I plan on trying to use this as digital paper, replacing anything that doesn't need to be on a physical sheet of paper all of the time.
I decided on the Surface Go over others because I like how open the hardware is. I can truly run whatever I want without jumping though much hoops like the iPad.
I'm also a Linux user and plan on running Linux full time on this tablet. From what I gather online, everything works under Linux after some set up except for the cameras, which is good because I never expected to make much use of the cameras anyways. I'm still going to put some sort of privacy cover over those cameras. Camera support seems to be in the works though, not that I'm that concerned.
This comment is going to be irrelevant to the video but DAANG THOSE BEZELS ARE HUUGE
What app / site do you recommend to take notes on the Surface Go?
I like to use Wacom Bamboo Paper to take notes. If you need to convert your handwriting into editable text, you can use MyScript Nebo www.myscript.com/nebo/
Or if you want to store notes on the cloud, accessible everywhere, Microsoft OneNote.
for a device in class would you recommend the surface or the iPad 9.7" i heard the iPad is pretty good
For note taking, Surface Go and iPad are evenly matched. For drawing iPad is better because the drawing apps are, in my opinion, better designed. But handwriting apps on Windows, iOS and Android are all very capable.
Teoh Yi Chie For writing (especially hand writing with a stylus pen) is it better to use iPad Air 3 2019 or Microsoft Surface Go?
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How does it handle drawing programs?
It handles drawing programs fine but could be better. Check out my full review at ruclips.net/video/zXpb9X8kcRM/видео.html
Will any of the handwriting apps discussed herein create actual digital text from handwriting?
Searchable digital text? Thanks.
Nebo is the app that can convert handwriting to searchable text
Thank god I didn't buy this device. I got the Samsung counterpart instead, the Galaxy book 10.6. It comes with the same price, just with the pen and keyboard included. The Stylus is superior, so is the processor. The only downsides are a very limited range of accessories, less battery life and a worse folio cover. Its successor even reduces its downsides.
Malaysian or Singaporean?
Singaporean
@@teohyc hahaha that accent cannot run away. Nice review!
@@teohyc lol why are you trying so hard to fake an accent to cover your singaporean one
@@jackien21 For the same reason why I type all my comments, as much as possible, with proper grammar, punctuation and upper and lower case. So that there's no way people can misunderstand or not understand what I'm saying.
@@teohyc sad
Tab s4 or surface go for taking notes in university?
Both are more than good enough for taking notes.
palm rejection ?
Palm rejection works alright. Some apps implement it better than others
Palm Rejection refers to a feature that changes the way that the touch screen determines what is considered a 'touch'. Basically, when the tablet detects the tip of the stylus near the screen it turns off the rest of the screens touch sensitivity. This allows you to rest your hand on the screen while you write with the stylus . Without palm rejection you have to hold your hand away from the screen while you write.
The Surface Go supports palm rejection when used with an 'active' stylus such as the MS Surface Stylus.
Can you rest your hand on the screen?
You can
I don't like Bamboo Paper. It's great for taking notes but not so for doing tutorials in Physics and Maths calculus. This app does not have an infinite x and y axis space therefore it does not go well with tutorials.
Additional complaint, surface pro has an annoying defect, but I'am not sure if MS go has the same defect. That is you cannot write with your palm on the screen when your MS surface is charging, intermittent but when you disconnect the charger, it works! And that ladies and gentlemen, is a big turn off! Frequently discussed in the MS forum but no answer to that yet (Alot of the reply by admin is, are you using microsoft one note, blablabla ). SO beware! Oh I'm using surface pro i5 1796 model.
But without a doubt, ms one note has excellent tools for use in maths subject/physics, etc but the lack of digital full scape with infinite x and y axis, is a big turn off
Mohammad Shazarul Ishak thanks for letting me. I was just about to buy it
no such thing as satisfx or not
While review is good... His Hand writing needs improvement.. 0/10 for his hand writing..