Here's Why So Many African Americans Are Disgruntled with Tanzania
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2023
- Today I am interviewing @africonexion Joseph Mbele PHD. He is a Tanzanian who is now teaching at St. Olaf College in Minnesota. He is a cultural expert regarding the African Diaspora. He also believes he has the solution of how African Americans can resettle in African countries like Tanzania.
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His books are below:
Africans and Americans: Embracing Cultural Differences
www.amazon.com/Africans-Americans-Embracing-Cultural-Differences/dp/141162341X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1689113058&sr=1-1
Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences
www.amazon.com/Chickens-Bus-Thoughts-Cultural-Differences/dp/1312159561/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1689113004&sr=1-2
Great conversations. Good thing you are bringing both dides than speaking to youselves. Would like to join the panel one day to bring another dimension the debate. Understanding of the white man differs from country to country. Bottom line most Africans do not know much about them dxcept for aid.
Africa is a continent (54 countries) and "America" is a country!.....🤔 but what about the other American countries?.. we aren't American?.... North Americans are not Americans?.... South Americans are not Americans?.... I am Latin American but if we aren't American why they call us Latin Americans 🤔?
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@@retirementtoafrica Good point. We need to explore this aspect. All of us know him differently. Context matters.
I will be in Tanzania in 3 weeks. First time in the African continent. I’m excited
Please how do get in touch with you. I have some questions for you.
You should also travel next door to Kenya and Uganda to see the big difference between the countries.
This show belongs in your Hall of Fame. This series of discussions will establish your legacy more than any other work you've done.
Why do some AAs complain about certain countries in Africa being too westernized? When you choose to settle in a country that is "not westernized" here is what you are going to encounter. You will be unable to find business or work opportunities, you will not find decent housing with reasonable amenities, you may not find decent schools for your children and access to medical care. You may not be able to even work from home because of internet/wifi challenges. You will then start moaning and groaning about lack of western conveniences in those places.
Black Panther Peter O'neil. Wish I knew the history. Love Tanzania, lived there 84-86 and will return 🙏🏿
That book is outstanding!!! You must get it if you want to travel to the Continent.
Good programme Oshay, keep up the good work.
I really loved this conversation as African living in the USA
I don’t think task oriented is the American way but in business is the universal way and that is one major reason Africa lacks in productivity compared to other places in the world
Right, and a reason why it does make sense, to link up with an African American community that is goal oriented, and build and work with them, even though you may experience some challenges with them as well but, you know what I mean.
You know America is known to have one of the highest productivity in the world. Europeans have a whole month vacation every year but the US gives only 2 weeks. Productivity based on working like a robot as in the West shouldn’t be a goal to take back to Africa. It should be a blend. There’s less insanity in Africa because of their cultures.
@dee2ttown even siblings have differences in character nd way of doing things, it's about respecting eachother nd learning off eachother nd not expecting people to be like us nd do everything like us.
Thank you for saying this.. ✊🏾👊🏾..
It’s not the effects of westernization but rather the effects of poverty in this era of globalization
I agree with this distinction. My thoughts exactly!
This ignores what globalization really is. It’s a fancy word for the west and other exploitive countries to convince developing countries to allow their multinational corporations and policies to run the economy while the locals and citizens are stuck being the servants. Only fools just accept globalization without studying it. It’s a con game where only the few run the many. Stop regurgitating their bs.
Hey Nephew Oshay , the professor is saying the right thing . I am working on several projects in Ghana . Business in Afrika takes business to another level . Your mindset will definitely be changed . Working with a trusted local is the best way to go &;life is a lot easier. I can definitely attest to thst fact .
They don’t have to work with us when they come to the U.S.
The way forward is correct the problems that are current. Lying, greed are human. Reteach and relearn how to move anyway! Stop accepting the failings and leave dead minds behind.
Great guest. Great discussion. This is how a true academic facilitates discussion. He listened more than he talked.
Exceptional interview! Just found your channel last month and so glad I did. I'll be purchasing the professor's books as we prepare to travel to Tanzania this fall. Blessings!
Haggling: "Mark Meets Africa" seems to be on top of these issues spoken about here.
This is probably the best interview that Kenganda channel has had so far. It was interesting, thought provoking with some eye openers. The conversation is a great example of two people from two cultures who see things quite differently as both were open to understand each other's perspective. Not a single profanity or racial pejorative. This was very refreshing for a change.
I too agree!! This was very eye opening putting things in perspective!!
This was a great show, like this Tanzania brother I have resided in US for decades with 20 years in 100% African American neighborhood. I do concur with him on many issues but I would differ on the current state of African. The Africa me and him left behind is long gone. The current Africa has moved away from relationship centered society to task oriented western society. They want to reap the productivity and efficient that comes with the western ways without paying the price of its consequences, neither are they willing to put in the work. The colonial legacy laid the foundation of confusions, colonial and neo colonial education was never meant to create critical thinkers and problem solvers. Colonial education was meant to create administrators and technicians to help Europeans extrait our resources. Countries like Kenya are changing education system to competence based. We also need to introduce African centered education that can create efficient and productive citizens like Japanese and Chinese, we do not have to give up our connection centered to task centered, we should be able to accomplish tasks in our system. We also need to teach young African the plight of our people in diaspora
Tanzania is the only African country that had perfected the union of one nation using Swahili as a culture glue, it isa mistake to wholly replace it with English. In Kenya we have achieved development but it has come at a culture cost, we lost some of our culture identity as African people. African American should try to integrate with locals and stop creating their own silos. I think the African governments should add department or ministry of Diaspora and employs diasporians to help those moving to Africa. At policy level all Africans should adapt or learn from Ghana and have a policy supported by budget to help our people come back home, provide conducive environment for investment
This is so on point.
Also, as AA we must not compare ourselves to other cultures in Africa. A lot of these cultures have the support of their government. We don't and that is an important dynamic that is not being discussed.
The Indian and Chinese government has made agreements with some of these African nations to be there and do business easily.
The Unitef States does not support AA leaving and bringing money to countries they want to take advantage. They want you in America working for low wages until you stress yourself out into an early death.
Tradition is good, but some traditions as practiced in Africa are hobbling and need to be discarded.
Humongous facts. Cut the bullshit and raise the standards.
true, change it.
in all fairnesss we can't throw away african traditions to pave way for black american culture that has resulted to nothing than glorification of crime, ratchet behaviour and lack of values. Let everyone live in their continent and their values. Traditions are there to serve a purpose get tradition out and watch discipline and morals take a downward spiral. On this i say no, kindly
@@africantraveller8303what african tradition for example should we changed
@@shelmithmumbi6884inancial responsibility, integrity, work ethic, transparency, honesty, and plain technical knowledge are missing from your culture, your BS narrative and idea of what Black culture is fuels your jealousy and disrespect. Black Americans are not the ones lagging 100 years behind the rest of the world in technology, knowledge, and understanding.
Mr. Mbele provided some important insight on how to 'act right' when integrating into an African society. You asked the right questions - how do we really work together when the thinking can be so far apart?
Start with patience.
@@blkqueen6201exactly…Patience is key..📌
I can agree that patience is needed, but Black Americans dont move to Africa so they can go backward in time 100 years.
@@Silverbackugxare you suggesting that Africans are backward in time?
@@palesamogorosi8939Africa will not make it internationally if it doesn't function along international lines. It is that simple when we're talking about business.
This is an excellent discourse. It would be great if Prof Joseph Mbele does YT series on specific topics ( African culture; integration into society; market culture; African perceptions of the diaspora; breaking ice with the Continental African; land purchases; business investment opportunities and requirements by govts amongst others) to built bridges between Africans.
"Yes working with those differences," but it may take generation or more. And that should not be a bad thing, because it is still progress if you are moving forward.
Great discussion ‼️ I appreciate you addressing the work ethic in response to the social but lacks traditions; which appear more careless than social / cultural‼️ Colonization has made our community complacent and somewhat feeling like better work ethic won’t change much things for them 🤔 He said perhaps for our children’s children’s generation.. What about the foreigners who are moving with speed NOW? ‼️ SET TIME IS NOW‼️ We have solutions. From NYC, love to all. Bless.
I have been enlightened greatly from this interview.
Great episode, should be viral. Every black person in the he diaspora needs to hear this.
Africans, both from America and the continent need to let go of what doest serve them so we can become competitive in the world. Doing something a particular way for thousands of years doesnt mean it is efficient or will be successful against other ways. I think this is the mindset we need to get into to avoid subjective and ultimately wrong ideations about "our way" and holding onto it.
Well said brother🙏🏾
To All Of My Fellow African Diaspora: Regardless of what personal feelings we may have towards each other; nevertheless, especially considering what overall may have happened to us from the time that we were first developed & seeded on this planet (within our Motherland Africa), to hear and see such a positive expression from one of our African leaders (Museveni of Uganda) is truly a blessing for all of us globally. Overall, it's possible that all of us members of the Global Black Diaspora need to positively reflect more on righteous: compassion, honor, forgiveness, respect, financial & social advancement with each other.
Perspective is everything
Wow, build it up Oshay. Built it up, wonderful interview. The best I’ve seen..
The word ‘Mzungu’ is derived from the Kiswahili word ‘mzunguko’ which is describing the movement of travelling in circles ie to travel around. Kuzunguka is the verb. When the European explorers arrived on the continent, they would come to an area, leave with porters who helped them navigate the land and then travel back and leave again ie Traveling in circles. It was a lot of traveling because they were discovering and mapping the area, and looking for waterways to bring ships and boats inland. Because it was the white travelers who were zungukaring, that is how they got the name Mzungu (one who travels around). To the locals, they were traveling in circles, moving around, to and fro, back and forth. Therefore Mzungu is used to describe foreign travelers especially from the western world irrespective of race- black, white and hispanic. It is not a derogatory name.
How many times do we need to explain this to them though lol? If they go to Congo they will be called mundele.
@@palesamogorosi8939 it comes up a lot. Educating oneself and Interacting with locals can sort this out.
@@4Waridi the thing is that they will still be offended. It started with akata, now it's going to be mzungu.
@@palesamogorosi8939yeah but we all know that congolese do not call black americans mundele. Only whites are called mundele.
Maybe you already know it but the word mundele was given by the Kongos people to the first colonizers who arrived. The true meaning of mundele is terrorist, invader. People that came to conquer and bring terror. That's the real meaning of mundele. Because white in Kikongo is pembe. Not mundele. Till today all whites are called mundele but congolese do not know the real meaning of the word thinking it means white. That's why they will also call anyone with light skin mundele. Even congolese with light skin will be called mundele.
Black Americans gfrom my experience are called Americans. I worked with a light skin black american woman in Kinshasa and we went to the market and they heard her talk they will call her "americaine". Black or light u are just "americains"
We also have a name for arab north Africans or just arabs. Mundimbu: savages, fighters aggressirs, That also comes from the Arab slave trade.
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Wow, this is very enlightening. I thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. At least this makes sense more sense than I've ever heard.
I am a child of the 60s and remember how it use to be prior to the Civil Rights Movement which dysfunctionalized Black American, by way of integration. Prior to the Civil Rights Era, not all, But most Black Americans were family and community oriented. Not today. Most Black Americans are individuals who are nurtured on a capitalistic and materialistic mindset, supplemented with opportunistic and a self grandeurizing mentality. This is what they leave for Africa with, and this is why they leave sooner than they expected disappointed l. To win we have to go in groups with a plan and a strategy that is inclusive with Continental Africans.
I agree fam.
The successful one are the ones who can adjust to the culture and do life with the locals.
Very well stated. I too, am a product of the 70's. I agree that we AA must plan and life will be better to work within a group. Yes, I came to Tanzania in the late 70's . I was living in Cairo, but going to Tanzania was the highlight of my young life. We loved and President Nyerere. We came back to US to study more. I will be returning to East Africa in 2023 to live the rest of my life. I have friends in Dar Es Salaam now. They love it.
Yes! Professor we loved Magafule!
This is your most excellent program my brother Oshay! Bring more of the Critical thinkers like Professor Mbele. We need to interact and connect with people who have a more evolved mindset!! It is necessary. Yes, we need The Tool of Survival.
I would have to disagree on the market haggling...my experience the seller most times will stand firm once they hear your American accent. So, I just started going down the line in the market till I find someone that has a fair price, same with the bodas and taxis. The American accent most times will make a seller start at a high price. I challenge you to go to the market with a local and have the American not say a word. The price for the same item will magically drop. Its not an American thing to be annoyed, its a human nature thing more so-
I disagree because you’re implying that the accent translates into asking for a higher price as perceived to be doing better than the locals. Why doesn’t that same logic work in the states when you have to negotiate for mortgages, car loans, rent in certain markets, etc? Those perceived to be less wealthy end up paying more.
@@LetsTravellChannel..with all honesty,u can't compare the US,bigger economy, everything better,"first world" country,older in age with little old Tanzania.. That's an off comparison..in most developing countries in the world not only Africa u will haggle for price unfortunately as an outsider/foreigner..and yes,Americans in Tanzania are somewhat doing better financially than a local,it's just facts.. Lastly,it's not only Americans that get hiked prices, even as a local when the sellers think u might have money/u look moneyed/can tell ur ignorant of the prices,they will tell u higher price first and that's why there is bargaining.
@@LetsTravellChannel bruh... If they hear you're from the west they bout to try and tax you. Period. They know you have more than the locals.
@@LetsTravellChannel oh dear you need help. Haven’t you heard of Redlining and Jim Crow? Look it up. Read and Come back before posting Elaborate Statements.
I’m Tanzanian and i get hustled over the prices most times. It’s annoying. It might be more pronounced for outsiders because we perceive you are all rich.
Excellent countering points from the black american perspective Oshay!🔥
oshay you guys should start a class with various people in africa called africa for dummies where over teach them about tribes and how they do things
lol yall not going to worry me.
And who is the dummies,
@@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz nobody is a dummy I just believe this is how he words things.
@@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz the idiots who says things like, I thought africans live in huts and lions walk around on a regular bases, I am so sick and tired of that stupid narrative, being even if that is the case so what. just to let you known mud is cooler than concrete with giving better circulation so anyone having problems with mud houses need to go kick rocks. Also what is wrong if lions and other animals are walking around, let them commune with nature
@@Kenganda ok I took it the wrong way ✌️
I highly enjoyed this conversation thanks for sharing this content. Well done
So clear and objective.
Geronimo Pratt a former black panther wrongful convicted of murder in Los Angeles, moved to Tanzania when he was released from an American prison where he passed. This has to be the best human you ever had. Thank you iam very grateful.
Excellent discussion. I truly appreciate the doctor's perspective and advice. Im looking forward to the next time he is invited back.
Being humble is having a right Attitude in Tanzania and is very important
The Best show! Thank you for your efforts.
Excellent conversation I look forward to reading the books as well.
I enjoyed this interview as well, very interesting, captivating, informative and intellectual 👏
New Subscriber!!!! I truly enjoy this discourse. It really brought many answers AND questions to the forefront of my mind!
Welcome aboard! thank you so much for coming!
Excellent interview!
This was a very informative interview!! Oshay Jackson asked the thought provoking questions provided insightful commentary. Grt job!!!!
Brilliant conversations on this podcast 👏 kudos to your guest and you Oshey.
This is the _best_ interview I've seen so far from you, Oshay. I've more videos to watch on your channel. Thank you so much for uploading this. I appreciate the "bridge-building" you are doing with AfRAkan natives. I am pleased to see the sharing of observations--and understanding--from both sides. It is educational. Dr. Joseph Mbele is a gem. I'd like to engage him in a future chat and acquire his book. Again, thank you.
so how can such humble friendly people be such scammers???
That's how they get you. Hypocritical tactics
This is how businesses operate in developing countries. Patience & relationship building do pave the way.
Couldn't get off the couch😊, very interesting topic with professor Joseph Mbele. More work to do with US, looking forward to the next.💯
Blessings to you Brother for showcasing Dr. Mbele!
As an continental African, I couldn't agree more with brother Kenganda push backs. The most frustrating aspect of the continental African culture is the begging on both ways. They beg for simples favor that with small effort could easily accomplished. On the other hand, they demand or expect to be begged when the issue in case will confere full advantage for themselves. As for the deference towards the mzungus is certainly the leftover of colonialization and Christianization or Islamization of the continent for that matter.
Until we start loving ourselves nothing will really be effective.
God bless you Mr.Jackson.
Great Interview!
Personal security is paramount! The adaptation as well as the adjustment can be slow, but people are complex, so the movement is going to take a lot of patience.
Best interview, it gave perspective on both sides, TIME is a factor for CHANGE , it will happen, your show is a conduit enlightening listeners of the work to be achieved in the future. Just think how powerful Africa could be if we UNITE & work on theses problems that exist.
May God continue to infinitely bless all African nations! Africa is Rising and I am so excited to see their growth. As an African American I fully embrace the Swahili pole pole lifestyle. It is better for your health both mentally and physically.
I think if you're coming to the continent to do business, first inbred yourself in the community. The community itself will show you what businesses are needed instead of what businesses you want.
Change your mindset and it will change your life.
In the Caribbean you own somebody money they coming after you with a machete
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽...! Very good session.
Beautiful conversation, As a Social Worker and Community Leader in Canada, I encourage more of these dialogues with emphasis of the Continent understanding who are these Diasporan people? What are their beliefs, ,dreams and aspirations? Visions /Goals , both socially and economically. Keep up the good work Oashay! I support your efforts.
You nailed it Prof🎉
I have seen Chinese factories that are operating like prison camps in Africa. Diaspora entrepreneurs are not operating with this mindset but are not respected with the same level of respect that are given to the Asian people.
sad💔☹️
Sir the Chinese and Indians pay a lot money(Corruption) to the Police for the protection that's why they can get away with everything.
You know why we don't hate the White people as same as you Black America bacause after the Colonialism end and we got Independence we came to realize that our African leader are bad as White people were during Colonialism eg those factories operating like prison the police and local government know but because of Corruption they do nothing.
Other thing we think you African America are rich like the Whites because your foreigner also because we are poor.
Don't feel offend and never gives up on Tanzania or African continental in general.
In Africa all we have is hope.
Because they still mostly treat coming to Africa like a vacation.
Nobody respects Chinese in africa.Stop saying things u don't know about. Lots of issues that Africans have with Chinese. Start reading local newspapers and u will know what's going on sir
Remember culture is not race. It is things you have experience personally or family. Part of friendship is extending yourself without expectations. Barriers are broken down by you. Concentrate on you.
The Professor is incorrect about the concept of time being African.
I am Tutsi born in Rwanda, and an American citizen living in Kansas City, USA
Paul Kagame has made Rwanda disciplined efficient, and business-friendly, and that is why Rwanda is the miracle of Africa.
Rwandese, Congolese( DRC), South Africans, and Zimbeans are extremely suspicious with foolish Africans.
We have love for African Americans.
We Rwandans, Congolese, Black South Africans, and Angolans are disgusted with the Uncle Tom attitude of some naive Africans, even here in America. I support African American, we need our American relatives so we can learn from each other.
Paul Kagame is Tutsi like me, Yoweri Museveni is Ankole ( Our Ugandan Tutsi Relatives.
The professor is diametrically opposite to Professor Lumumba.
Eventually, African Americans will Settle in Uganda, Rwanda, Kenya, Congo, and Ghana
Within 20 years once we develop proper infrastructure. This will. Happen soon.
Nothing wrong with African Americans who fought for us, including me to be allowed to Live in America.
We need the African Anerica "Attitude" Yoweri Museveni, William Ruto, Paul Kagame, and DRC Prez know this.
Fck the butt kissers.
Africa has the cheapest labor in the world, and the highest taxes levied by business ignorant leaders.
That is why businesses are slow at settling and investing in Africa.
This is changing with the election of President Ruto.
1:13:08
U still have tribalism mind
Thank you Oshay! This channel ROCKS! I subscribed to Joseph Mbele's channel as well and will purchase his books too😊
thank u so much!
He definitelyneed to be a regular for exposure and knowledge.
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I plan to purchase a Swahili language dictionary translation booklet.
@DonaldG-qq4ol the RUclipsrs Stepping Stones 2 Home said that the Swahili they learned before leaving the States was Kenyan and different than what was spoken in Tanzania. I would still get the dictionary and ask the locals if the words used are correct. I believe it will build rapport 😊
@@BantuLisa Also I believe Kenya has cooler climates suited for my overall well being. Thanks for your suggestion.
Listening to your podcast tonight, I have so much I would like to say about the topic. I do not see a successful business or a country that don't have good organization skills. Schedules and commitments are very vital. It's time to get
started to succeed so our lost people can return.
Great Show bro.
Excellent interview and discussion. I found it informative and thought provoking. Being part of the Diaspora and actively looking to relocate to an African country, I’ve found hardships just from researching my possibilities for a new life.
One major takeaway is the importance of connecting with the people. I look forward to it. I understand there are going to be some frustrating moments and untrustworthy individuals, but I also know I can’t live separate and think I will be successful or as enriched culturally unless I do so. No need to think of moving to Africa if you don’t plan on fully immersing yourself.
I have to say I'M SO proud of you oshay you're living up to your full potential and it's inspiring and makes me happy to see you dude Good work I understand you got to do some foolishness from time to time but you did good bro you did real good Bro
Excellent interview.
One of the best kenganda conversations yet. Keep going Oshay!
Excellent discussion. I'm an American. We always hear that many , not all, Africans and African Americans don't know how to be on time and they're always late. But I totally disagree. When it's time to catch a flight to go vacation and when they need to show up for work or they'll get fired or when you have to go to court for an appearance, or when you have a doctors appointment or when they got a hot date, or when they need to pick up their paycheck they are very much on time. So they know very well how to be on time. They need to be reminded that they pick and choose when to be on time. The issue is a matter of respect and accountability. If they don't respect you or if they feel there are no ramifications for being late they will do as they please. Everyone should be held to the same standards. If you're routinely late, then you're fired period.
FACTS!
Well said. Could not have said it any better👏🏾👏🏾
Agreed
I agree. My problem with Americans is that once you respect their time by showing up on time, let's say for example, for an hour for a doctor's appt or to meet with a realtor, they in turn most times want your money, but also want to disrespect your time and attention with rudeness, contempt, discriminatory condescending remarks, micro-aggressions, and subpar biased service. Think about the fact that you want us to show up on time to a space where you act once we arrive, as if you have to 'tolerate' our presence. The accountability and respect goes both ways. We show up on time to where we are welcome and wanted. No problem. We show up late to places where we have been disrespected because you get what you give, which is either warmth or disrespect.
Beautiful!!!
I need to get his book. Good podcast. Shout out to you both.
@deseangibir4764, definitely, you will gain much from the book and its sequel titled "Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences."
Great content
Africa Americans are disgruntled with Ghana, Tanzania, Rwanda, Gambia and even some case South Africa. Nations with open arm ask you to come and all u guys can do is to appreciate but no. Nobody can satisfy u if u are not satisfy.
WELL SAID.THEY ONLY COMPLAIN, IN GHANA THEY GIVE THEM 5000 ACRES FREE LAND, AND SOME ARE STILL COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY REGISTRATION FEE TO GET THE LND REGISTERED AND DEMARCATED IN THEIR NAME. SO SOME ARE SAYING IT IS NOT FREE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE REGISTRATION FEES. NOT EVEN LOCAL GHANAIANS GET FREE LAND. SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.
I'm a gay Lithuanian man. What will you give me if I visit Africa?
@@JamesBond-44 I am a gay Lithuanian man and I want to come to Africa and empower gays and lesbians who are being persecuted by ignorant people. Gays and lesbians have a right to exist in Africa.
@lukasbalchunas1272 you can take them to your country if that is ok with u. Lithuania and other western countries have to understand that your way of life is vast different from others especially Africa. You can't impose ur lifestyle on us.
@@lukasbalchunas1272 well just make sure you don't go anywhere near uganda dude their parliament's passed some laws that makes it illegal for people like yourself to advertize n or speak of your choice of sexual orientation in any kinda shape or form that could influence others to follow it so you can end up in jail for actin gay or as some would say actin too gay in uganda as for the rest of africa most africans would certainly disapprove of this gay thing...!though we never really cared that much about it til some western governments started pressin africans into officially recognizin your people's rights n agendas just like it happens in the western world...
I’m 25 minutes into the conversation. I believe this is the information I will need to really enjoy Africa
This is incisive (Oshay your questions really cut through the fat and got to the substance of the issue).
Dr Mbele was providing lots of insights.
This was an excellent session, - thank you to both of you.
Good job getting this brother in.
It sounds like this man could be excusing corrupt practices by invoking tradition. Slavery was traditional in the Americas but we will agree that slavery is a bad thing. Tradition does not necessarily equal good.
slavery was traditional around the world including Africa and the Americas
Traditional African slavery before Europeans is absolutely not the same as chattel slavery for commercial profit including human insurance. You could rise to be chief in prior African slavery.
@@dadoboye1536 Same way that some slaves could rise to become rich black slaveowners and property owners across the Americas with the ability to even buy prominent seats in white churches, receive tax rebates for the slaves they owned and be considered powerful members of society. There are always exceptions to the rule. I suggest you go to your national archives and read the accounts of African slaves on African soil who took their owners to court for maltreatment and selling them off to multiple owners. Fact is there were several different forms of slavery in West africa at least ranging from simple pawnship and indentured servitude to European-style chattel slavery for those slaves that were known as "donko" which was the lowest grade of slaves in Akan territories or Osu slaves in what is know as Nigeria today. This is a reality that Africans are not honest enough to face
Thank you, traditionalist are happy with Africa being 100 years behind the modern world.
Slavery was a traditional in the African pre-colonial era.Africans practiced slavery amongst themselves but not this commercial and cruel one ushered in by times of Europeans and Arabs.During different battles amongst different kingdoms,the prisoners of war would be taken in as slaves to do manual labor for their captors but when the outsiders came they ushered in a ruthless kind of human transactions.
Big fan of this channel. Shout out to Oshay for paving the way
How are they integrating when they don't even speak local language? If they live in Germany they will have to be able to speak German.
They need to learn Swahili when they come!
Just bought his book Africans and Americans.
@watsonhilare7420 I hope you like the book.
I'd love to see Dr. Ronald Neal's interview.
Tanzania is peaceful, prices are relatively lower and Tanzanians are relatively hard working people.
However, whilst the Westerners haven't managed to own the country, the economy is mostly owned by arabs and indians and the government doesn't seem to be doing much to empower Tanzanians to own their economy.
As a matter of fact fellow Africans can endure too much immigration crackdown whilst arabs and indians appear to be freely moving around.
Immigration officers in Africa seem to be proud of going around arresting and detaining fellow Africans who in my opinion should be enjoying free movement across the continent.
Religion is another thing. With Islam being a major religion, people still believe that going to arab countries is what will save them, just like Christian countries tend to suck up to the west.
Go, Badgers!
As a person who has been in Tanzania for the last ten years what I find is the most disturbing thing are the immigration laws. It is the only country that I have been to that immigration officers in home clothes can approach you and ask you for your passport and if you don't have it with you will take you to their office and threatened to lock you up even if you are legally living there. I have had that experience and I know others that had this experience.
Which country are you from?
I love Africa
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It is not Westernization and Capitalism per se that causes the negative traits where the diasporas get exploited, it is he colonialism and exploitation of the past which introduced a dog eat dog attitude toward the other if they were vulnerable. Think about the mentality of kidnapping and selling other Africans to outsiders. That mentality perhaps persistsyd in part.
Great dialogue
Good conversation
I had no problems at all there 😂😂😂😂 NONE 😂
I like this guy
Oshay Duke, I totally see how you have been trying to do with regard to bringing AA investors together with genuine African stakeholders in the sectors that spark their interests.
My advice to you is to create business models with real plans for success.
Start by having Investment Capital in the six figures, even if you had to form an investment group of 20. Then you must identify the necessary produce and products peculiar to the country of habitat.
Purchase a SFH with big acres for extra farming etc.
Just do your homework!
Nephew , does the professor plan on returning back to Tanzania to live permanently or have become so - called Americanized because of the salary, lifestyle , car & and house ?
You want to bet he already built in Tanzania and will go back?
🇺🇸 🇺🇲 mr.O your ex neighbor here 😃 😀 😄 from Sac......speking on raising the price at markets.....p..I would go to Maryville and Roseville flea markets to sell used antiques from what I found at thrift stores and salvation army on Alice Street.......now once I'm selling (1) the people have a European accent the price go's up then the haggling begins 😀 😄(2) if you speak like you have money, but dlessed really down...well the price stay up.(3)if you a pleasant bro.or sis. I will try to give you a window of financial ease ìf you get my drift 😉 😀.......✌️
To All Of My Fellow African Diaspora: Regardless of what personal feelings we may have towards each other; nevertheless, especially considering what overall may have happened to us from the time that we were first developed & seeded on this planet (within our Motherland Africa), to hear and see such a positive expression from one of our African leaders (Museveni of Uganda) is truly a blessing for all of us globally. Overall, it's possible that all of us members of the Global Black Diaspora need to positively reflect more on righteous: compassion, honor, forgiveness, respect, financial & social advancement with each other.
Hey Nephew Oshay , I will be traveling to Tanzania in November for the first time. The following places will be visited : Arusha , Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar .
Visit Mwanza too, this Tanzanian city is always left out 😟