Does the SEC Replace the NCAA and Become College Athletics? | CBS Sports HQ
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Our college football insiders Dennis Dodd and Barrett Sallee break down the impact of Texas and Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 and what's next for the SEC and Big 12.
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I am old school Sooner fan, would like to see the B 12 stay the same. money always screws up good things
I agree.
Going to miss playing K-State, Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, TCU, Colorado, Nebraska, Ok. St, etc.
I miss the days of good ol' midwestern football and the rivalries that came with it.
Don't blame the money, blame your ADs and your commissioners. Before Texas got their tv deal, your members voted down a tv deal. When Tx went and got their own deal the rest were mad. The writing has been on the wall a long time. The Big 12 sat on their hands while other conferences continued to get better.
@@mikeb3936 Bingo! The B12 was the most backward thinking conference of them all. When Colorado and Nebraska left it should have blew up then. The hire of Blowsbee was even a worse decision. As a Sooner fan my family had held six season tickets in the south end zone since early sixties and finally had to give them up over 11am kick offs.
Yes.
I bet after OU get 4 or more losses a year they will wish they were back in the 12.
SEC gon need to rebrand, I’m bout to go trademark Southern Elite Conference 😂
ESPN is probably the worst thing to happen to college football and now it's showing.
This would be absolutely terrible for all college athletics.
Would be? This is a done deal. College Athletic Departments are all about the $$$ while their athletes are still unpaid. Gotta stack that cash while you can, unfortunately for everyone else…
College athletics, NCAA they are already dead. When they came up with the Transfer Portal, when college athletes can be paid for their likeness, it is already tits up. Now "universities" can pay for talent, the best athletes go to one of 20 or so schools, the rest are going to be playing junior varsity ball. 12-team playoffs? 6 of the teams will come from the SEC. We are already watching the pros play in college.
😭
I always laughed when announcers, coaches, fans pontificate about the purity of college sports. It has always been professionalized. NIL is just being more honest about it. We like what we like. College basketball and college football are nothing more than sports that try to maximize profits. No different than the Steelers or the Cowboys. Just played at an extremely inferior level.
not that low of level, many rookies become starters their first year, just my opinion which isn't worth much
@@birdman9043 You hear talk about how Nebraska in its heyday could beat a sad NFL team. Like some say about Alabama now. They would get stomped by the Detroit Lions and Jacksonville Jaguars. Kentucky basketball would get stomped by Detroit Pistons. Stomped. But these college tickets get expensive. Like your watching high quality football. It's not.
The college game is more fun to follow
@@michaelkirshner3099 OK. At least your reason isn't based upon alternative facts. Cool. I like the randomness of March Madness due to it being single elimination. Still like it less than the NFL or NBA.
The SEC will eventually have to change their name to something else other than "Southeastern"
Not until the Big 10 does.
Nope... The brand is too well known.
Wac had 16 teams at 1 point
Yup and the WAC lost of rivalries lead to its death. 7+2 or 7+4 hurt scheduling.
The WAC not the SEC…
This will make recruiting harder for schools outside of Texas to get top prospects. Texas athletes will be able to stay home and play in the best conference in college football. Great move for Texas.
Dude, is really going overboard. “Is the ncaa going to replace the ncaa?” Come on, man.
Ok Texas I’ll be brutally honest now, as a Bama fan I’m scared of the University of Texas and their money 💰 💴 💵. I’ll admit it I’ve had time to think about it and that’s it y’all are just too fucking wealthy and now that we can call legally buy these kids I’m pragmatic enough to realize the wealthiest programs will dominate. We Bama folks can’t compete with Austin or College Station when it comes to mammon. But I will say I’m very happy these kids are getting paid now these young Black dudes are really one of the few things that makes me motivated. I’m glad they’re gonna get compensated properly now. Ok I’m done. 👍🏻
You should be scared.
Texas is a disease, like an STD..
Yep. And Saban is about done.
@YFNA, that very well may be the case but it’s all a moot point because the powers that be don’t care at all if you or I liked it or not. Texas is coming so grab your ankles man. Apple needs to create a grab your ankles Emoji.
@TMcC, don’t count Coach Saban out just yet I thought y’all learned y’all’s lesson about that by now.
@@moester75 No one needs to be concerned about Texas in the context of their performance on the field or the court..
They are and have been for over a decade, an also ran.
Living on history, hype and doing nothing with them.
Everyone seems to be so pissed off with the formation of NBA superteams. I wonder if fans of college football will be upset with this SEC super conference? This clearly upsets competitive balance in football.
No it does not. The reality is only a dozen and few other teams matter in the grand scheme of things college football wise. The money is going up and so is the level of play. With NIL the playing field has been leveled. You will probably watch every prime time game buddy. Don’t fight it embrace it. Exciting times in the college football world.
@@theyreEatingthedogs I'm sure current members of the Big 12 don't feel the same way about this as you do. Not to mention other conferences fighting for the scraps that are left.
@@theyreEatingthedogs the end game for this situation is either the NCAA will be displaced entirely or the amount of playoff teams will be 16-24. The SEC will be too powerful to compete with and it will force all other schools to quit playing against them or demand a piece of the pie.
The only teams that have mattered for the past 20 years have been Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Oregon, and Florida.
Everybody else gets the same amount of attention and coverage as the FCS.
@@TnD_BigJax that's an exaggeration to say the least but on the flip side we won't have to worry about college football too much longer the way things are going. Eventually the top tier talents will see no point in ever playing football for a college team as they will follow the money elsewhere. Enjoy it(whatever it is) while it lasts 😆
Meanwhile, I'm here as an FCS fan begging for *somebody* to invite NDSU to their conference
NDSU would only get group of 5 offers. Better off staying put.
ndsu can replace OU
Giving the SEC this much power is like giving Hitler the sudetenland. The end of a balance of power in college football.
Did you really just compare the SEC to Hitler?
@@lukaswilson1437 😂😂😂
the longhorns havent been formidable in 10 years, but oklahoma is a different story.
Texas Tech will go to the PAC-12. Carnegie tier 1 research university, 40,000+ students, national powerhouses in basketball and baseball. Traditionally a very good football program, just not in the last 10 years. Texas Tech has a huuuuge presence in Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston. Tech is 3rd biggest brand in Texas behind UT and then A&M. And actually within Texas, A&M isn’t that much bigger a brand than TT if at all. Tech will add a lot to the athletics of the pac-12 and academically as well. Also money wise, Texas Tech’s fan base and brand is 100x larger than Baylor and TCU’s because they are small private schools. That would mean major revenue for the pac-12 throughout Texas when airing Texas Tech games
As a Oregon Duck fan not sure how I feel about all of this yet. Does this move cause all other conferences outside the SEC to become irrelevant. All the best tv deals going to the sec, all the best recruits going to big name brand sec schools, all the money going to the SEC. I just don’t know. Does this move make big name brand programs like USC, Oregon, and UCLA have no relevance nationally anymore. (Ik USC and UCLA haven’t been as good as of late but their brand still means a lot)
Also seeing you’re a red raider would you rather play ball in the big 12 or pac 12?
If these reporters did any kind of investigation.. like they are supposed to before talking on a subject... they would know why Oklahoma wants to leave.. it is the big 12 tv deal.. and Oklahoma having to play at 11am all the time... qnd not being able to get recruits in that early... qnd the big 1w not doing anything to help them...
same goes with Texas because OKLAHOMA Takes from texas, or else texas would be a top tier team as well!!
Time for a South/North/East/West super conferences!
@Foghorn Leghorn, yep that’s exactly what’s coming and I’m sad 😢 for all the NCAA football programs that will be left out of the 4 super conference’s. How are they going to generate revenue now?
I LIKE THIS VERSION OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS .. ITS BIG BUSINESS .. AND NOW EVERYBODY GETTIN A 'PIECE OF DA PIE' ..
"Nyaaa kitty, my pie!"
SEC! SEC! SEC!
RIP BIG12
So please tell me how they scheduling gone work
This is the beginning of the four 16 team Super Conference era!! Bye Bye Big 12!!
SEC going to 24, buckle up.
Maryland vs Kansas every basketball season? Sometimes twice in a year?
I think there is a good chance they will at least give it a try. I'm hearing about talk with ND/The OSU/USC and Clemson.
THE END IS AMONG US
The SEC and everyone else SMH
Who cares........ go to college to learn, not to run, jump and chase a g.d. ball
SEC!!!!
Kansas is a blue blood in basketball. Why are they not being considered by anyone for that?
Not smart. Oklahoma and Texas will be mid to bottom dwellers in the SEC until they can recruit some defensive players
That is incorrect.
Oklahoma has already been recruiting defensive players. They'll be a top 15 top 10 defense this year.
OU has their best defense this year since 2008. They have more than enough to win the championship in 2021. In 2022 they will be inexperienced, so I hope OU joins SEC in 2023 because they will be better.
@@bblovely7788 not an SEC defense. The Big 12 is known for having weak defenses...
@@kcnichols8968 not in the SEC they wont. Watch
Sooner fan here. I think every game will be much more exciting. Much more difficult than the Big 12.
You have destroyed this sport as a cost and It will likely be the same.
How about colleges educate and leave big time football to the pros
Despite the fact that Football is King, there are other sports to consider. Primarily, Basketball and Baseball.
Everyone forgetting about the reigning bball champ, sic em bears!
Wow! We all expected some changes when the legalized gambling and allowing athletes to shave points or throw games, but this is getting crazy.
Ikr. None of this was happening or even imaginable a couple years ago. Now we have players making money, gambling, and now perhaps a complete collapse of college football with the exception of the SEC.
Idk maybe everything will fix itself and be just fine. My only hope is that all 4 super conferences stay relevant in the same way they are now. The big 10 still means something, the big 12 still means something, the acc too, even the pac 12 which is the worst conference of them all still has meaning. All these conferences and there respective big name brand schools with their history and son is what makes college football so rich
The SEC use to not be a great conference. It was the ACC schools like FSU, Miami, and so on at one point. Then at another time in history it was the big 10 with Ohio st, Michigan, penn st historic winning traditions at the top, and at one point it was the pac 12 with USC, and UCLA and Washington, and Oregon.
But now with this move it’s hard to envision parity. All the collegiate money, great TV deals, and best recruits will all be poured into one single conference cause a collapse of college football everywhere else.
Maybe I’m really really wrong and as an Oregon duck fan I hope that I am.
SEC the NFL of collage football
Iowa St, Kansas (because hoops) - Big 10
OSU, TTech - PAC12
WV - ACC this week
K-Sate, Baylor, TCU - AAC
TCU is a top tier program they will go to the big 10.
@@juniorthird7952 Baylor literally won the national championship in basketball last year....
Can you explain why Vandy or Arkansas are somehow more warranted to play in the P5 over Baylor, KState or TCu?
No just college football
The host sounds like ernie from inside the nba
If the sec become their own company and players will get paid contract wise… I’m in 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
So whats the timetable?
Next season
I'm not a fan of this move! They need to change the name of the conference if this happens!
Oklahoma State will follow Oklahoma and Texas Tech will follow Texas
Uhhhh no, they bring us no value
@@brandenolberding1897 True, but in reality Oklahoma State will follow Oklahoma and I definitely see Texas Tech following Texas.
Lol ummm SEC seem to eye only 2 schools.
@@blackwind6317 Give it time once Texas and Oklahoma bolt. Like I said Oklahoma State and Texas Tech will be the next two to join
@@JustinMahanJesusSaves no they won’t. 16 teams is a hardline for a feasible conference. There is no room for those two schools. They will join the PAC or get relegated to g5(6)
Yep. Is the answer. All you people who could NOT STAND the SEC in 2011 when LSU and Alabama were in the Championship game----just LOOK what you created! Lol... LOVE IT!
Let em they'll just be more food for Alabama football RTR!!!
Yes yall have dominated but it will be cool to see texas vs Alabama and Texas vs A&m every year
@@Uziisdoors it definitely will be awesome that's why at the end of the day I'm all for it BUT when it happens the Big 12 is finished 😁😁😁😁😁
I think once those two teams leave the big 12 should grab one of those Mountain West teams like Boise State and then I would say they also bring in a team like Houston or a BYU
@@Uziisdoors can't wait to finally see some of those Texas longhorn women live 😍😍😍
@@Uziisdoors Bama and Auburn probably move to the eastern division. And Missouri to the West.
NOTHING BUT A MONEY GRAB.
Exactly. 😞 And I could easily see it blowing up in the faces of both Oklahoma and Texas. Even with a potential expanded playoffs, Oklahoma could end up like Nebraska in the B1G and be a perennial also ran in the SEC instead of being the top dog in the Big XII. And Texas hasn't been relevant in even the big 6 bowl picture, let alone the national championship picture, since 2005. Of course this is all about the football money, but they would have to compete in basketball as well, yet they don't really add much to the SEC in hoops. (That would be men's basketball; women's basketball is a different story, but it doesn't bring in the revenue that football and men's basketball does.)
SEC is becoming the NFL of college Football.
The SEC has been the NFL of CFB.. 💯
I totally agree 100 percent
I think we could legitimately see the SEC leave the ncaa and steal all their good teams for the next few years. NCAA needs competition anyway
The Big 10 Needs to Grab NotreDame, Pittsburgh , and Syracuse now! NotreDame would be huge and Syracuse is a huge Basketball School and a strong TV market and fertile recruiting grounds. Pittsburgh is a strong sports market and the Pitt vs Penn State Rivalry would give the Big 10 a much need strong traditional rivalry. And if they get Pitt get West VA and have the Backyard Brawl again. NotreDame vs Michigan, Michigan State, Pitt, and Penn State would be back. And ND vs OSU. That would be the Big 10s BEST MOVE!
Why the fuck are you taking Syracuse over Cincinnati?
This is a defense move by the SEC. they know the Big 10 is about to decimate the Pac 12 and ACC lol
80 million in exited fees 😂😂 wow
You do understand that’s not what will be paid. It will go to court and both teams will pay less than $20m each guaranteed. Also it will be over $40m extra a year just off the tv money. Not to mention the rest of the revenue generated. Both teams would recover even the maximum penalty in under a year. These are schools with billionaire donors, more in Texas side, but Oklahoma is #6 in revenue. So deep pockets on both ends. I think even if the fee was $200m each they would do it.
These programs make north of 50 mil a year in tv deals. 80 million is a year set back. Technically covid did more damage to thier programs then this.
Won't be any Big 12 conference to pay.
That 0-4 from the is all OU, why would they want those losers in their conference!
cuz generally 10-2, 11-1, 9-4,9-3,10-2 100 plus teams sell there souls to be sooners dont see to many teams at least make playoffs
@@jacknorstegaard7384 oh I know, I just hate OU
@@jacknorstegaard7384 I think he was using hyperbole lol
Who cares lol
Might as well take ok state baylo kansas and Texas tech
Have they voted already
They should join the big 10
Oklahoma would thrive in the BiG 10. I think they may face in the SEC. Texas will turn into Tennessee.
@@Swagalious689 I wouldn't mind seeing Ohio State and Oklahoma each year in the big 10 championship game
Texas gets the right coach. They are a sleeping giant. Now they can pay players? Texas money? Bama will find out what life after Saban is ... Feel bad for that coach
pac 16 Oklahoma State Southern Cal.
Kansas California Los Angeles
Texas Tech Stanford
Houston California
Colorado Oregon
Utah Oregon State
Arizona Washington
Arizona State Washington State
It is absolute insanity that Boise State isn’t on this list.....
Texas will come back to the big 12
Are we headed to 3 conferences Big10, SEC, ACC or wat?
4 ACC p12 b10 sec. P12 will get atleast 2 Texas schools left
@@tmcc9867 I think Tech, Baylor, OK State, and Kansas State to PAC 12. Kansas and Iowa State to BIG, West Virginia to ACC. TCU to AAC
@@thegianttater TCU is a top tier football and baseball program they are going to the big 10
Miami and Fsu next to the SEC
Miami and Clemson
Don't bet on it
I was thinking the same thing.
Hell no. Miami has no fan base . And FSU has an easier path. B12 was unstable is the reason everyone leaves.
@@tmcc9867 FSU facilities suck.
WHAT! THEY COMING TO SEC?!!!!
The SEC Conference is best Gooooo Georgia
'Breaking'
Bye bye 👋🏻 big 12
What's the point of having conferences if there are only about 2 really good teams left that aren't in the SEC? (Clemson and ND)
Clemson will end up in the SEC
Maybe not on this round of conference realignment, but I think we are on a path where the BIG and SEC can pick apart Whats left of the ACC and PAC 12 and form 2 mega conferences as a part of their own league where the NCAA is defunct. But, IF that happens it's a way down the road. For now, BIG 12 is history, and PAC 12 is next.
The 2 most over ranked teams in the big 12 go to the SEC. it’s actually fitting
@Borinquen Bobber big 12 is garbage! So what is your point?
His point was that your point was stupid and childish. Which you proved with your response. Enjoy life, it's probably gonna be hard for you.
@@neiph8686 stupid and childish? Just because they are the best in the big 12 doesn’t mean they’re not over ranked,,,, the big 12 is sub par at best, get your feelings hurt much?
@@jaredbarker27 No, I don't like either one of them. You said they were the two most over ranked teams in the Big 12, and was proven wrong. So your comeback was "Big 12 is trash" .Lol, you are a typical biased fanboy. Those two teams are the best programs left in the big 12. That is the entire debate. If they leave for the SEC they will be power houses, not at first but over the course of 2-3 seasons. They have the money and exposure. I can't stand either one of them, but I am not a childish fanboy like you so I can at least admit they will be competitors in the SEC.
@@neiph8686 man your hard headed, I KNOW they are the 2 best in the big 12. Which is the whole reason the big 12 is a joke.
Truelp
The pack 12 and big 10.. and maybe even acc all want a Texas school for the inprint into recruiting..
ACC makes no since. B10 might go after Kansas and Oklahoma st. Thats new TV money. P12 will get what Texas schools they want. TCU and Texas Tech most likely. Baylor comes with problems.
Time to dominate Florida Georgia bama auburn LSU
WVU is the best of what’s left
Oklahoma state and Texas tech > WVU
@@jamess9890 OSU yes. Tech no.
Iowa St yes
@@itsjustme11 TTU has been ranked #1 in recent memory. Can’t think of anytime when those teams were even in the top 5
@@jamess9890 Yeah if you wanna call 2008 recent. And it was #2 not #1. Okst has cracked the top 20 the last 13 years, including three appearances in the top 5. Getting as high as #2 in 2011. With 3 other seasons going as high as #6 and another as high as #7.
Tech had a good run from ‘04 to ‘13, but they just barely cracked the top 25 twice since then.
Iowa st has touch or sniffed the top 20 the last four years and has the most sought after young head coach in the game.
Now OU & TX will learn what it feels like to play a real football schedule!
PAC XII should add OSU, CSU, UNLV, and Hawaii.
Texas tech is more plausible. But beyond them idk
No to UNLV and CSU. Hawaii makes sense along with TTech and OkSt and possibly Air Force or San Diego St or swallow ego a bit and add Boise St.
@@michaelwall3393 why is adding boise st a form of swallowing pride just curious. Also do you think this Oklahoma and Texas move to the sec hurts the pac 12. Especially teams like USC, UCLA, and Oregon or is there brand still safe? Ducks fan so this move has me on the fence. Not sure if it helps or hurts us or neither
@@abrams9916 will help money wise. Because p12 will get atleast Texas Tech and TCU. So now your in the Dallas and Houston market. Baylor might have to much baggage for the pac 12.
@@tmcc9867 yeah I’ve thought about it more and listened to some more people talk about. I think I feel overall better about it now. This may also help recruiting as well by playing games in Texas and Oklahoma. Do you think it’s more likely Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA join the big 12 or the pac 12 stay as as is with the addition of a couple of big 12 schools or an alignment with the big 10. Sooo many options. I think all in all USC, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington will be safe and most likely won’t really be harmed by this Texas Oklahoma move after all as their brands (especially Oregon, USC, and UCLA) have a big enough brand in their local region and nationally that they’ll be fine plus all the money those 3 schools get USC is loaded with money, UCLA as well, and of course Oregon has all that Nike money and they have great boosters. It’s the other schools that might get hit the hardest. The Arizona’s, the Oregon states and Washington states and many others. Those programs are already bottom feeders and this could make it even worst which maybe takes away the parity and Cinderella stories.