At one point i almost believe that welding is for some gifted persons only. but when i braved myself and purchased my own set of stick welder and mig welder and a lot of practice i realize that understanding and practice will take you a long way. i fabricated my own rack for my display at our store and i built my own boxing bag stand. now i am 88 percent confident of my welding skills.
That’s great. I don’t know that I though exactly along those lines but something similar. I’m by no means a great welder but I’m absolutely glad to have some self sufficiency where I can build, fix, and create my own stuff now with a welder. It’s opened the doors for a lot of savings and learning which I love, much like your display racks at your store. It’s awesome man. Thanks for watching.
Not a bad video dude! A bit of advice if o may. When wealding on light materials ( especially sheet metal) make sure your piece is secured flat to a heat sink ( maybe your table) this will back up your weld to reduce blowout and disapate the heat.
I use FCAW on auto body panels routinely without issue. I need to do that since most of my work is conducted outdoors and it's often windy in these parts. With a copper backing plate the process is rather routine and ho-hum. That said, I rarely weld a continuous bead on auto body panels, in fact almost never. Tacks that are spaced apart works best (for me) combined with the copper backing plate = relatively easy.
I am in agreement. I’m FCAW 22ga body panels now on a rocker repair. Tacs work fine spaced apart. I’ll even Tac in a backing flange of 22ga. Grind them down and fill the perimeter with glass filler so water stays out. Bondo over that. Epoxy paint over that. Good to go.
Try stitch welding 1in apart, allow to cool and then go back, keep the hot welds seperate and distortion low. See Fitzee's Fabrications here on youtube, he has some brilliant techniques for welding and fabrication. He's a real specialist with a Mig and basic tools.
I have the newer Titanium easy flux 125 and it’s REALLY difficult to spot weld 22 gauge consistently. I have it at the lowest settings and sometimes I’ll get a good weld, next I’ll blow through, next it won’t penetrate. I have to clean the piece and cut the tip of the wire after each spot weld or it will pop the wire off.... total PITA. In HF’s defense, they do not have a setting for thinner than 18 gauge listed.... in other words, they don’t think it will weld 22 gauge.I believe it now lol. Good video.
Yes, its not exactly made to weld very thin sheet metal, I've never welded 18 gauge but it certainly is it's limit based on my experience with other material sizes.
Don't put it on the lowest setting. The lowest setting will cause nothing but a mess. You can even weld 24 gauge with this technique. I don't know what machine you have, but let's just say that if your amp settings would go from 1-10 with one being the lowest, put it at a 4, and then you want to pull the trigger and let it go once you strike the arc. That single spark is all you need to get full weld penetration. Then spot weld your piece. You will want to pause every now and let the piece cool a bit, or use heat sink, or a air blower to cool it down. Every 8 - 10 welds. Not only will this let you weld perfect pieces, but there is so little grinding that needs to be done since the welds don't build up. This is the technique I learned from the legend Billy Bondo on RUclips who has been a welder for damn near 50 years and uses flux to weld thin metal exclusively.
I started welding sheet metal 40 years ago with oxy-acetylene, then to mig welding in the early nineties. I always heard how it was so difficult to weld sheet metal with flux core, so I never wanted to try it. I was forced to use a Lincoln PowerMig 140 with .035 flux wire in it to weld a hinge pillar section into a '14 Camry because that is all the guy had to weld with. Because of the extent of the damage, cutting the multi-walled section precisely was not possible, and I had some gaps up to 1/8 inch to weld. I also had to drill spot welds and remove the thinner outer panel in order to weld the stronger structure underneath. With a little acclimation it was no problemo... ATTENTION ALL FLUX CORE SHEET METAL WELDORS: TURN YOUR AMPERAGE UP AND STITCH. Like a fraction of a second blip.
Tac tac tac, is the only way. On this stuff. And let the orange glow, fad out before starting again. You have to have alot of patience. If you blow through. Same thing tac up tac down. Till it closes, brush it keep it clean.
I use texas tig with a cheap igbt stick welder and a second rod as a filler with no Flux on it. I can easily regulate my amperage to dial it down. It works pretty good. First time I did exhaust I struggled then I found the Texas tig method and it was like night and day.
Your on off spotting is a dream weld compared to my efforts on 22 gauge. Yours looks so good i am wondering if gas is going to enable to me to spot 22.
7:36 - 8:06 : No, not kinda. That's how stitch welding is done. You nailed it nicely in one go. You really wouldn't want to do such long stretches of it at a time, due to warpage of the sheet metal, but, yeah, that's how you do it. to avoid warpage, though, you just do a series of tacks, being careful not to overheat the metal. Outstanding.
You must be a welder. I was coming down to the comments to say the same thing but I was gonna add that turning the wire feed down wasn't really a good choice either. You loose control plus you're not adding as much filler that way. My advice would be turn the feed back up to match the heat and stitch weld the hell out of it.
I’m using a Lincoln MIG set up for FCAW. 0.035” flux wire. Should I set the machine for lowest voltage and slowest wire feed speed to prevent blow through?
The Flux will work but you have to turn up the wire speed not not down, because of higher temp it burns and it is not a sold wire, so you are putting down less material then you think. You will get burn through so crank it up and try again. Also you got my Sub Too keep it up.
See, my thought process was that if the wire feed speed was fast, it would be more likely to push through and make holes. I will revisit this in the future and take your suggestions.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects My welding Jedi show me how to do it on my Hf 90amp there is a technique increasing speed and a little practice. If you have infinite adjustable bobs your uncle for flux regardless of material thickness in reason useless you are trying to zap together a coke can. I currently have the Titanium 200 welder and enjoy it alot.
Check out what the manual says, but to run .023/.024, may require a different gun liner. Likely the liner in there now is for .030-.035. Same thing, of course, for the tip.
Good video but every time I watch these videos, thy don't include the wire speed and voltage. The techniques are good to see how but the voltage and wire spped should be included because those elements determine "blow" out or "bur" through or not. Good video for techniques.
I also notice that you say your not a welder but you are a beginner welder so that makes you a welder I noticed that your post is 7 months old so you are probably farther along but you are doing something that other duds just talk about welding with flux core takes practice but practice makes perfect I have done great work with my flux core just work at it every day take care brother . BK
I haven’t had a ton of time to get out in the shop and weld much in a while. I heard someone say it’s a perishable skill, I didn’t believe them. Every time I get out these days, my first few beads are really rough, sometimes even more, then I get back into a groove of making decent welds. I’m not that great, but have fun doing it. Thanks for the encouragement man, always love a positive comment when I get them!
I've been practicing this very thing, flux core on 22 gauge and it is not easy, the welder is ac and probably not the best quality it seems inconsistent and requires a lot of effort (meaning stop, gloves off, clean metal, clip tip) but I have not given up yet.
DC Flux Core is definitely better than AC for weld appearance but its probably every bit as much possible. MIG with a shielding gas is definitely the way to go for thin steel.
AC flux core is a nasty process. It doesn’t pay to save some money in getting an AC machine. You need to spend a bit more for DC. Flux core is also harder to learn on than MiG. If you’re never going to TIG ir stick, then a MiG is best because you can use flux core, and when you’re ready to spend some more, you can get the tank and regulator.
Some of your welds actually looked like they were perfect but you stayed in one area too long. Those spot welds were good. That bead was excellent. Did you turn it up or down to get that bead?
It's not easy that's for sure. I have the 140 from Farney as well. Had practiced on some sheets B4 winter has cascaded thru n I don't have a heated shop. But when taking care of replacing rusty areas you tack it in. Then hit up every couple inches. If you do an inch at a time between those original tacks and allow to cool I'm between you should be aight.
Great video, when welding thin metal you have to jump around so you dont warp it with too much heat, also is your polarity correct? Lots of crackling. Keep up the good work.
Michael Griffin Thanks man. Polarity should have been correct, DC Electrode negative ground positive. 75 percent of the heat in the work piece, 25 percent in the wire. Anyway, I’m aware that flux core runs on reverse polarity, and was when I did this video. Thanks for watching and your comment.
Thank you for the video what speed are you Running your wire and what heat range.. high / low got the same problem I can’t seem to dial this in same 22 gage
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects the copper wont weld to the work piece, like steel, or iron if it does blow through. Also it is transfers and dissapates heat faster. I learned that trick from an 80 year old man, almost 20 years ago lol. He just put about 1 foot each of 1/2, 3/4, and 1" copper inside each other and smashed them flat then bent it in a 90° to hold behind the panel, obviously doesn't work for all situations. But if you have clear access behind the panel its great. Aluminum works too, but melts/pits faster/worse than copper.
Cool, if I ever find some copper that would work I’ll have to pick it up and try it out. I’ve never heard of that before but I’m also pretty new to welding still.
Nice video just what I was looking for I have the same welder fc90. I can’t weld exhaust with it and my buddy asked me to. I will try this out tomorrow so you said you turned speed all the way down? And what’s the voltage?
Pete Lasko yes, true MIG welding (Metal Inert Gas Welding) is a cooler process than flux core, and can be used to weld even 24 gauge steel. Get a hose and a 75/25 mix CO2 and Argon gas tank and run a quality .030 or .023 wire and you shouldn’t have any trouble welding 20 gauge steel.
Those spot welds looked good nice and lined up. I heard you mention .023 wire though, I searched before but it’s only a gas wire apparently as .030 is thinnest it’ll go being flux cored
Yes, I did a little GMAW in the video, not just FCAW. If I remember right I was saying .023 wire would be best for metal that thin while MIG welding. When I first started welding a few years ago I looked for an .023 Flux Core wire and also found it doesn’t exist. The .023 wire I was referring to in the video was solid wire.
I've just purchased 0.6mm flux core wire. I didn't think such a thing existed, but it sure does. I double checked the box and .6mm in inches is .023622. I bought it at Lidl in the UK and the brand is Parkside, which is their own brand.
Nathan Densmore it’s a good machine. I’m trying to figure out why I have been having wire feed issues for a while, but I think something may just be worn out or a user error issue.
i could be mistaken but it seems like you were using gas. i saw no slag produced during your welding and like zero smoke of which is produced during flux core welding
william washington Your definitely not mistaken... it’s been a while since I have made/watched this video so I could be wrong myself, but I think I said I was going to compare the flux core welds to a MIG weld just to show the difference in the welds. Or something to that effect, I don’t remember exactly. If I didn’t say that’s what I was going, then I’m sorry. But yes, I was MIG welding with copper coated wire and inert gas, not flux core. Thanks for watching.
I think how low your mig current can go can make a difference. I see some can go down to 20amps others 25, 30 50amps. I dont know whats the ideal low amp range for thin sheet metal
I think your right. I’m not familiar with a lot of machines, but this 110v Forney does 20 amps, I wonder if 220v machines are able to do 20amps? Seems like they should if it is an inverter machine.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects a few start at 20amp but most start at 45/50 amps. I am looking to buy a mig welder. Want to repair some rust damage on my car so i want to make sure it can weld 22 or 24 gauge steel
It’s been like two years since I made this video, I don’t know for 100% fact anymore but I know DCEN is the correct way to weld flux core and I’ve been doing it that way forever so I assume so unless I made a mistake.
Bloody hell mate, that's pretty good seen pros do a worse job. Take wire speed down and amps down use quick trigger bursts then crank up as you figure what the metals doing. Use a heat sink helps! Good job and I have subdcribed
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects I was able to lap weld fcaw with decent penetration and no holes. I tried a butt joint and blew a golf ball hole. Then I used your technique and enabled my patience to fill it in slowly which worked out well. Thank you.
Flux it started off at 1 volts and 1.5 wire feed speed. I then changed it to 1 and 1 and it worked better. I didn’t really try with the MIG and I just was trying to show a quick comparison of how flux core burns through and MiG doesn’t.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects oh ok. Lincoln nr211 .030 or .035 be best wire to use, my opinion. Well you did good job showing comparison. It really comes down to the wire, Lincoln, its pricey but well worth it. Thanks, good job. Keep 'em burning.👍
Yep, DCEN. It’s just really thin stuff, probably doesn’t help. Someone else suggested I run it DCEP because it’ll put less heat into the base metal. I’ve welded flux core on DCEP with this just to see what it did and it’s totally worthless. So I probably won’t try it.
Probably just trying to weld to thin of metal, there are probably better people out there to give you advice but if you turn down the heat (voltage) and your wire feed speed then you might have better luck. If your welding really thin metal with a fast wire feed speed, it may just push through the metal with the heat and give you bad welds. This might be an extreme case. But you may need to just get yourself a 75/25 bottle and run GMAW (gas metal arc welding or what is TRUE MIG welding). Good luck!
What I don't understand is why are you welding a bead on a single sheet of metal??? Isn't that kind of "counterproductive" to actually welding two pieces of metal TOGETHER? I get that you are showing that flux core can weld a bead onto a single sheet of metal......that much I DO understand...but in most cases anybody doing any welding is welding two pieces of metal TO EACH OTHER, which would increase the thickness of the metal you are welding, or transfer the heat over the area of BOTH PARTS!!! THOUGH I do understand if you were "butt welding the joint" like I already stated!! Good video though just the same...but just curious is why I am "trolling a bit" here!!!
Hey man you have a really valid question, thanks for not being a total jerk about it. So like you said, it was to show that you can or cannot run a bead using flux core on a 22 gauge piece of sheet metal. I know that’s counter to the purpose of welding like you said. Anyway, I don’t know if you clicked off to soon or if I just don’t remember right but Im pretty confident that tried welding two pieces together too. I did some stitch welding. There was more to it than just running a bead on 22 gauge steel. Also maybe I just don’t know of think differently than you, but a butt weld is going to be the same surface area as well. I think it would distribute and cause burn through either way. Not a big deal though, I’ll admit I might be wrong. Thanks for watching.
Holy shit I hope you don't weld for a living. Slow the f' down. Dab for a second or less, let it cool for 3-5 seconds, then dab again. Stitch weld it man, don't drag it around.
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At one point i almost believe that welding is for some gifted persons only. but when i braved myself and purchased my own set of stick welder and mig welder and a lot of practice i realize that understanding and practice will take you a long way. i fabricated my own rack for my display at our store and i built my own boxing bag stand. now i am 88 percent confident of my welding skills.
That’s great. I don’t know that I though exactly along those lines but something similar. I’m by no means a great welder but I’m absolutely glad to have some self sufficiency where I can build, fix, and create my own stuff now with a welder. It’s opened the doors for a lot of savings and learning which I love, much like your display racks at your store. It’s awesome man. Thanks for watching.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects worth to mention, it save me a lot of money from overcharging labor charge of welders out there.
Not a bad video dude! A bit of advice if o may. When wealding on light materials ( especially sheet metal) make sure your piece is secured flat to a heat sink ( maybe your table) this will back up your weld to reduce blowout and disapate the heat.
Many people have said that, I will have to try it again in a future video.
Copper or aluminum backing is nice to use to soak that heat up and then diffuse it better.. Cheers! Good luck man!
I use FCAW on auto body panels routinely without issue. I need to do that since most of my work is conducted outdoors and it's often windy in these parts. With a copper backing plate the process is rather routine and ho-hum. That said, I rarely weld a continuous bead on auto body panels, in fact almost never. Tacks that are spaced apart works best (for me) combined with the copper backing plate = relatively easy.
You can't run a bead on metal that thin
Don’t have to run a bead to weld. Best equipment for the job is not always available.
I am in agreement. I’m FCAW 22ga body panels now on a rocker repair. Tacs work fine spaced apart. I’ll even Tac in a backing flange of 22ga. Grind them down and fill the perimeter with glass filler so water stays out. Bondo over that. Epoxy paint over that. Good to go.
Same. It's my daily bread & butter.
@@andrewbrown1463 Yes,tThe rockers on my XJ is spot welded already from the factory, no need for a bead
subbed. new flux welder owner here. thanks for the video, it will help
Awesome, I do a lot of flux core, a little stick and some MIG, just gotta get gas again!
Try stitch welding 1in apart, allow to cool and then go back, keep the hot welds seperate and distortion low. See Fitzee's Fabrications here on youtube, he has some brilliant techniques for welding and fabrication. He's a real specialist with a Mig and basic tools.
Hahaha I’m learning. My first big project is some 22 gauge tubing from a trampoline frame that I’m welding together 🤣 it is a steep learning curve.
So it’s work great. Thx for sharing. With fronius welder we can set stopping interval help while welding this thin metal.
Thanks for watching. Fronius welders are WAY better machines than anything I own, so I believe it.
I have the newer Titanium easy flux 125 and it’s REALLY difficult to spot weld 22 gauge consistently. I have it at the lowest settings and sometimes I’ll get a good weld, next I’ll blow through, next it won’t penetrate. I have to clean the piece and cut the tip of the wire after each spot weld or it will pop the wire off.... total PITA. In HF’s defense, they do not have a setting for thinner than 18 gauge listed.... in other words, they don’t think it will weld 22 gauge.I believe it now lol. Good video.
Yes, its not exactly made to weld very thin sheet metal, I've never welded 18 gauge but it certainly is it's limit based on my experience with other material sizes.
Don't put it on the lowest setting. The lowest setting will cause nothing but a mess. You can even weld 24 gauge with this technique. I don't know what machine you have, but let's just say that if your amp settings would go from 1-10 with one being the lowest, put it at a 4, and then you want to pull the trigger and let it go once you strike the arc. That single spark is all you need to get full weld penetration. Then spot weld your piece. You will want to pause every now and let the piece cool a bit, or use heat sink, or a air blower to cool it down. Every 8 - 10 welds. Not only will this let you weld perfect pieces, but there is so little grinding that needs to be done since the welds don't build up. This is the technique I learned from the legend Billy Bondo on RUclips who has been a welder for damn near 50 years and uses flux to weld thin metal exclusively.
Thanks for the video man! It helped. Subbed, and good luck on getting to 1k!
Thanks for watching and for your support!
I started welding sheet metal 40 years ago with oxy-acetylene, then to mig welding in the early nineties. I always heard how it was so difficult to weld sheet metal with flux core, so I never wanted to try it. I was forced to use a Lincoln PowerMig 140 with .035 flux wire in it to weld a hinge pillar section into a '14 Camry because that is all the guy had to weld with. Because of the extent of the damage, cutting the multi-walled section precisely was not possible, and I had some gaps up to 1/8 inch to weld. I also had to drill spot welds and remove the thinner outer panel in order to weld the stronger structure underneath. With a little acclimation it was no problemo...
ATTENTION ALL FLUX CORE SHEET METAL WELDORS: TURN YOUR AMPERAGE UP AND STITCH. Like a fraction of a second blip.
Great information! Keep making videos.
Thank you sir! I am very busy at the moment but I will get around to uploading again regularly here very soon.
Tac tac tac, is the only way. On this stuff. And let the orange glow, fad out before starting again. You have to have alot of patience. If you blow through. Same thing tac up tac down. Till it closes, brush it keep it clean.
I am presently learning to weld and like your video. I appreciate your efforts as well. Thanks !
Charles Goldman good luck, and thanks for watching
I use texas tig with a cheap igbt stick welder and a second rod as a filler with no Flux on it. I can easily regulate my amperage to dial it down. It works pretty good. First time I did exhaust I struggled then I found the Texas tig method and it was like night and day.
absolutely I weld 18ga. and 20ga.
Keep it up and one day you will have a welding side hustle out of your garage
Maybe one day!
Your on off spotting is a dream weld compared to my efforts on 22 gauge. Yours looks so good i am wondering if gas is going to enable to me to spot 22.
Just subscribed great video keep moving forward 👍🏻. BK in CT
Thanks man!
7:36 - 8:06 : No, not kinda. That's how stitch welding is done. You nailed it nicely in one go. You really wouldn't want to do such long stretches of it at a time, due to warpage of the sheet metal, but, yeah, that's how you do it. to avoid warpage, though, you just do a series of tacks, being careful not to overheat the metal. Outstanding.
bobbofly thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it man!
You must be a welder. I was coming down to the comments to say the same thing but I was gonna add that turning the wire feed down wasn't really a good choice either. You loose control plus you're not adding as much filler that way.
My advice would be turn the feed back up to match the heat and stitch weld the hell out of it.
I’m using a Lincoln MIG set up for FCAW. 0.035” flux wire. Should I set the machine for lowest voltage and slowest wire feed speed to prevent blow through?
The Flux will work but you have to turn up the wire speed not not down, because of higher temp it burns and it is not a sold wire, so you are putting down less material then you think. You will get burn through so crank it up and try again. Also you got my Sub Too keep it up.
See, my thought process was that if the wire feed speed was fast, it would be more likely to push through and make holes. I will revisit this in the future and take your suggestions.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects My welding Jedi show me how to do it on my Hf 90amp there is a technique increasing speed and a little practice. If you have infinite adjustable bobs your uncle for flux regardless of material thickness in reason useless you are trying to zap together a coke can. I currently have the Titanium 200 welder and enjoy it alot.
Try sills under car, joining to existing....lowest flat... Blows through and when you try to fill, falls down in lumps 😂🇬🇧
The intro made me spit coffee out my nose gawddam
Lol!
Check out what the manual says, but to run .023/.024, may require a different gun liner. Likely the liner in there now is for .030-.035. Same thing, of course, for the tip.
Yeah, I'll look into it, thanks for the suggestion.
Good video but every time I watch these videos, thy don't include the wire speed and voltage. The techniques are good to see how but the voltage and wire spped should be included because those elements determine "blow" out or "bur" through or not. Good video for techniques.
I also notice that you say your not a welder but you are a beginner welder so that makes you a welder I noticed that your post is 7 months old so you are probably farther along but you are doing something that other duds just talk about welding with flux core takes practice but practice makes perfect I have done great work with my flux core just work at it every day take care brother . BK
I haven’t had a ton of time to get out in the shop and weld much in a while. I heard someone say it’s a perishable skill, I didn’t believe them. Every time I get out these days, my first few beads are really rough, sometimes even more, then I get back into a groove of making decent welds. I’m not that great, but have fun doing it. Thanks for the encouragement man, always love a positive comment when I get them!
Why no wirespeed/ voltage mentioned. It would really assist
Because I placed it in the lowest settings and don’t have actual numbers in terms of V and WFS.
I've been practicing this very thing, flux core on 22 gauge and it is not easy, the welder is ac and probably not the best quality it seems inconsistent and requires a lot of effort (meaning stop, gloves off, clean metal, clip tip) but I have not given up yet.
DC Flux Core is definitely better than AC for weld appearance but its probably every bit as much possible. MIG with a shielding gas is definitely the way to go for thin steel.
AC flux core is a nasty process. It doesn’t pay to save some money in getting an AC machine. You need to spend a bit more for DC. Flux core is also harder to learn on than MiG. If you’re never going to TIG ir stick, then a MiG is best because you can use flux core, and when you’re ready to spend some more, you can get the tank and regulator.
Some of your welds actually looked like they were perfect but you stayed in one area too long. Those spot welds were good. That bead was excellent. Did you turn it up or down to get that bead?
foreverwood1963 I honestly don’t recall anymore. But thank you!
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Thanks for the reply anyway
Good demo... 400 + subs isn’t too bad, but let’s get you to 1000! Starr posting on IG & fb 👍
Well done. What's the pay like?
Feels like a full time job for part time wages. But it’s all been uphill so it should be worth it someday.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects money you make while you sleep is good money
It's not easy that's for sure. I have the 140 from Farney as well. Had practiced on some sheets B4 winter has cascaded thru n I don't have a heated shop. But when taking care of replacing rusty areas you tack it in. Then hit up every couple inches. If you do an inch at a time between those original tacks and allow to cool I'm between you should be aight.
Sounds like a good method to avoid burn through. Thanks for the comment!
Great video, when welding thin metal you have to jump around so you dont warp it with too much heat, also is your polarity correct? Lots of crackling. Keep up the good work.
Michael Griffin Thanks man. Polarity should have been correct, DC Electrode negative ground positive. 75 percent of the heat in the work piece, 25 percent in the wire. Anyway, I’m aware that flux core runs on reverse polarity, and was when I did this video. Thanks for watching and your comment.
Thank you for the video what speed are you
Running your wire and what heat range.. high / low got the same problem I can’t seem to dial this in same 22 gage
I think it was 1 and 1 for both. Cant say for sure though, its been over a year since I made this video.
Have you tried this using a block of copper behind it to help with blow through?
I haven’t. Why a block of copper instead of mild steel?
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects the copper wont weld to the work piece, like steel, or iron if it does blow through. Also it is transfers and dissapates heat faster. I learned that trick from an 80 year old man, almost 20 years ago lol. He just put about 1 foot each of 1/2, 3/4, and 1" copper inside each other and smashed them flat then bent it in a 90° to hold behind the panel, obviously doesn't work for all situations. But if you have clear access behind the panel its great. Aluminum works too, but melts/pits faster/worse than copper.
Cool, if I ever find some copper that would work I’ll have to pick it up and try it out. I’ve never heard of that before but I’m also pretty new to welding still.
.023 LINCOLN WIRE FOR THAT BODY METAL, ALL DAY LONG!
22 guage is thick , is 1mm , try tin can which is 0.3 mm
Nice video just what I was looking for I have the same welder fc90. I can’t weld exhaust with it and my buddy asked me to. I will try this out tomorrow so you said you turned speed all the way down? And what’s the voltage?
Some people say differ but I would just turn both settings down to 1 and 1. Thanks for watching and commenting.
just subbed cool video
Thanks man.
Good luck
Thanks for watching.
never continuously weld on 22 gauge... you need to tack at different positions to reduce distortion and blow through.... even with a MIG
I’m having trouble welding a 20 ga patch on with my Lincoln flux core 😡😡😡 SHOULD I HAVE GAS...MIG?
Pete Lasko yes, true MIG welding (Metal Inert Gas Welding) is a cooler process than flux core, and can be used to weld even 24 gauge steel. Get a hose and a 75/25 mix CO2 and Argon gas tank and run a quality .030 or .023 wire and you shouldn’t have any trouble welding 20 gauge steel.
🇺🇸THANK YOU! On my way to Merriam Graves❤️
Those spot welds looked good nice and lined up. I heard you mention .023 wire though, I searched before but it’s only a gas wire apparently as .030 is thinnest it’ll go being flux cored
Yes, I did a little GMAW in the video, not just FCAW. If I remember right I was saying .023 wire would be best for metal that thin while MIG welding. When I first started welding a few years ago I looked for an .023 Flux Core wire and also found it doesn’t exist. The .023 wire I was referring to in the video was solid wire.
I've just purchased 0.6mm flux core wire. I didn't think such a thing existed, but it sure does. I double checked the box and .6mm in inches is .023622.
I bought it at Lidl in the UK and the brand is Parkside, which is their own brand.
@@tadams1767Got some of that as well 👍
@@royster3345 Any good mate?
@@roulettered56 Worked fine for thin welds. When not using I take the spools off and put in a sealed plastic bag to stop any corrosion.
How do you like that welder now thinking about getting that one
Nathan Densmore it’s a good machine. I’m trying to figure out why I have been having wire feed issues for a while, but I think something may just be worn out or a user error issue.
i could be mistaken but it seems like you were using gas. i saw no slag produced during your welding and like zero smoke of which is produced during flux core welding
i forgot to say during the last 2 welds made
and it looks like copper wire
william washington Your definitely not mistaken... it’s been a while since I have made/watched this video so I could be wrong myself, but I think I said I was going to compare the flux core welds to a MIG weld just to show the difference in the welds. Or something to that effect, I don’t remember exactly. If I didn’t say that’s what I was going, then I’m sorry. But yes, I was MIG welding with copper coated wire and inert gas, not flux core. Thanks for watching.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Noted... :)
Looks like your heat is right just lower the wire speed
Hi, may I kindly know what flux cored wire you are using in welding a 20-22 gauge galvanized sheet? Thanks.
.030 wire.
Also, I took the galvanization off, it’s toxic to heat up galvanization to welding temperatures. It can kill you.
I think how low your mig current can go can make a difference. I see some can go down to 20amps others 25, 30 50amps. I dont know whats the ideal low amp range for thin sheet metal
I think your right. I’m not familiar with a lot of machines, but this 110v Forney does 20 amps, I wonder if 220v machines are able to do 20amps? Seems like they should if it is an inverter machine.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects a few start at 20amp but most start at 45/50 amps. I am looking to buy a mig welder. Want to repair some rust damage on my car so i want to make sure it can weld 22 or 24 gauge steel
You have a lot of spatter. Is your polarity correct?
It’s been like two years since I made this video, I don’t know for 100% fact anymore but I know DCEN is the correct way to weld flux core and I’ve been doing it that way forever so I assume so unless I made a mistake.
Just keep the puddle the same size
Bloody hell mate, that's pretty good seen pros do a worse job. Take wire speed down and amps down use quick trigger bursts then crank up as you figure what the metals doing. Use a heat sink helps! Good job and I have subdcribed
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@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Yes, a block of aluminium behind the piece your welding if possible. Or use an old steel dolly if welding thin alloy
this is exactly what im going through now with FCAW.
Thanks for watching, good luck!
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects I was able to lap weld fcaw with decent penetration and no holes. I tried a butt joint and blew a golf ball hole. Then I used your technique and enabled my patience to fill it in slowly which worked out well.
Thank you.
You need to make small taks or stiches and coool your welds with wet sponge cus you throw to much heat in panel warping it to shit
What were the settings for both flux and mig?
Flux it started off at 1 volts and 1.5 wire feed speed. I then changed it to 1 and 1 and it worked better. I didn’t really try with the MIG and I just was trying to show a quick comparison of how flux core burns through and MiG doesn’t.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects oh ok. Lincoln nr211 .030 or .035 be best wire to use, my opinion. Well you did good job showing comparison. It really comes down to the wire, Lincoln, its pricey but well worth it. Thanks, good job. Keep 'em burning.👍
Hey mate, you running DCEN? Looks like DCEP.
Yep, DCEN. It’s just really thin stuff, probably doesn’t help. Someone else suggested I run it DCEP because it’ll put less heat into the base metal. I’ve welded flux core on DCEP with this just to see what it did and it’s totally worthless. So I probably won’t try it.
I have a Vulcan omnipro 220 from harbor freight I burn through everything I flux weld someone please help me my first welder and first xp
Probably just trying to weld to thin of metal, there are probably better people out there to give you advice but if you turn down the heat (voltage) and your wire feed speed then you might have better luck. If your welding really thin metal with a fast wire feed speed, it may just push through the metal with the heat and give you bad welds. This might be an extreme case. But you may need to just get yourself a 75/25 bottle and run GMAW (gas metal arc welding or what is TRUE MIG welding). Good luck!
Exactly as every welder knows you can't weld thin sheet metal with fcaw or MMA.
A lot of people are saying you can but with a lot of extra steps. I think it's worth just getting MIG at the point.
@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects just means you have to buy gas.In fact I would say you can't weld thin material without buying gas.
What I don't understand is why are you welding a bead on a single sheet of metal??? Isn't that kind of "counterproductive" to actually welding two pieces of metal TOGETHER? I get that you are showing that flux core can weld a bead onto a single sheet of metal......that much I DO understand...but in most cases anybody doing any welding is welding two pieces of metal TO EACH OTHER, which would increase the thickness of the metal you are welding, or transfer the heat over the area of BOTH PARTS!!! THOUGH I do understand if you were "butt welding the joint" like I already stated!! Good video though just the same...but just curious is why I am "trolling a bit" here!!!
Hey man you have a really valid question, thanks for not being a total jerk about it. So like you said, it was to show that you can or cannot run a bead using flux core on a 22 gauge piece of sheet metal. I know that’s counter to the purpose of welding like you said. Anyway, I don’t know if you clicked off to soon or if I just don’t remember right but Im pretty confident that tried welding two pieces together too. I did some stitch welding. There was more to it than just running a bead on 22 gauge steel. Also maybe I just don’t know of think differently than you, but a butt weld is going to be the same surface area as well. I think it would distribute and cause burn through either way. Not a big deal though, I’ll admit I might be wrong. Thanks for watching.
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I have actually seen that video. He does a good job, though its not exactly what I my purpose is. Looking to see I you can actually run beads.
The letter o is completely different from the number zero. Smh
Thanks for taking me back to kindergarten, can I have my snack and nap time now?
Nope!!!
Holy shit I hope you don't weld for a living. Slow the f' down. Dab for a second or less, let it cool for 3-5 seconds, then dab again. Stitch weld it man, don't drag it around.
This video is "watch me learn something I know next to nothing about" .....but I want subscribers so I can make money.
so NOT only am I gonna go deaf, but also Blind. find someone to edit your videos bro!