So even after his daughter did nothing but obey his every whim, her father still intended to basically throw her out so he could have even more children after denying her even one. What a stellar human being.
It’s the brand of toxic masculinity that comes from thinking the “man of the house” deserves to be unchallenged. No authority can stay unchallenged, or you get a tyrant.
@@dylanram4653 "Masculinity" in his culture is being the unquestionable authority figure in his household. Would you not agree that such behavior can encourage toxicity? Ergo, that behavior is a form of "Toxic Masculinity"?
@@popeye1426 Farsi has been influenced by Arabic …. For over 1400 years…. Heck Farsi is even written With Arabic Letters…. Arabic Letters…. Some of the most important linguist in Arabic Grammer and literature are Persian…( I could name at least a hundred) ….Pre-Islamic Farsi is an absolute different Language than the current version …. What does ancient Greek have to do with the current VERSION OF Farsi…. Heck , Ancient Greek is different from the current version of Greek…. Stop spouting nonsense
@@Logistics_Sandar while my original comment is incorrect and I do give you that the characters in this episode are Orthodox Jewish and are far more likely to choose a name because of the Hebrew roots rather than Arabic roots. Dora is related to the Hebrew name “Dor” which can mean generation or period.
I think they were all in on it because they all had either something to gain from him or something to get back at him for. The wife didnt want an autopsy and was conveniently out of the house and she had money to gain from him, the daughter was being ditched by her father and the son in law hated how his wife was being treated. The son in law probably took it upon himself to do the deed and was courageous enough to take the fall. I think the only one who didnt benefit from this is the actual son.
Jewish-Iranian culture can lead to this type of tragedy. Parents coerce & raise children to not be their own self but to be of servitude to their parents preaching religious values yet go against their own sayings continuously. Something this vile hasn’t happened & I hope it doesn’t. Yet children sacrifice their own desires & dreams for being at their beck and call, and in the end for nothing. I’ve seen it too many times in the persian community being half Iranian myself. The culture is the problem, not the people.
Also the result of a vice all too common with people in a position of power... they come to think the rules and values they enforce don't have to apply to them. I'd say the problem is also people who twist the culture for their own benefit.
Describes my Midwestern Evangelical Christian household too. I think this concept of "do as I say, not as I do" wrapped in Religion is actually a pretty common perversion of some basic text that exists in all the abrahamic religions, "obey thy mother & father" yada yada "spare the rod". I think it happens more often when people need to feel better than others because they are inheritently broken in some way, and they can't stand anyone seeing that. It's also really inviting when you feel out of control to have this one area where it's socially acceptable to control others or your "household". They cling to scripture as if it's a reflection of who they are as people, instead of just an addition to their personality - it IS their personality. Then they pressure their kids into the same beliefs and values because going against them is going against who they are as people. They just don't know who they are without religion. It's also super convenient when most religions have a "redo" button to gain forgiveness or mercy for their actions, even if they are blatantly hypocritical.
Americans who think they know about Jewish people are probably used to seeing Ashkenazi customs. Iranian, Syrian, Bukharian, Moroccan, Greek, and Yemenite are far different. Some of them have weird concepts of loyalty to family and obeying the parents.
The episode got it wrong - it has nothing to do with a secular person touching the body - religious law doesn’t allow an autopsy period ( unless foul play in which there are many strict guidelines on how to proceed ) due to the whole body having to be buried including every drop of blood..) hope that helps !
@@RochelAvtzon So, the murderers go free in this community!? Some traditions are not worth having! Esp if they don’t allow adoptions nor interested in truth and justice! We are supposed to care about these things and help the orphans!
@@lenitaa7938 As she said, "unless foul play is suspected." In the case of this episode, the family had an ulterior motive to avoid an investigation--as comments above point out, everyone in the family either had it in for him or stood to gain by his death. But in real life very few Orthodox Jews have relatives out to kill them.
Whether it was the daughter or the husband being the murderer was never made clear. However, the daughter was acquitted and the husband arrested for the murder.
@@mystikx2205I wonder if it was either. What murderer brings the pillow into their own bedroom? I think the new wife put it into the daughter’s bedroom while the daughter, her husband and the servant were all in the dining room. The husband thinks his wife did it and lies to protect her, and his wife will think he did it and lie to protect him. When the ADA starting listing all the stuff, didn’t it sound like the perfect frame job? Again, picture it, either smothers him and then runs into their own bedroom and puts the pillow down. I wish Jack had used common sense.
Yeah I mean no matter how you play it if one wouldn't do it the other was gonna do it. The old man was the definition of a masculine toxic tyrant who had it coming after EVERYTHING his daughter did for him and his home he does what he did. He ain't getting any sympathy points from me whether it was the daughter or her husband. The old man's marriage and desire to kick his daughter out of the house right after denying them a child they so desperately wanted was the final straw. And now the daughter and her husband have to live without the other which in turn is their own other kind of punishment but to them at least they were free from the old man.
So even after his daughter did nothing but obey his every whim, her father still intended to basically throw her out so he could have even more children after denying her even one. What a stellar human being.
It’s the brand of toxic masculinity that comes from thinking the “man of the house” deserves to be unchallenged.
No authority can stay unchallenged, or you get a tyrant.
Yeah.. he'd certainly fit in with the MAGA MEGA church Trad Wife Alpha Male community!!
This is why you have to be independent of your parents. The more you depend on them, the more they control you.
@@UmisTsukishiro00 "toxic masculinity" lol
@@dylanram4653 "Masculinity" in his culture is being the unquestionable authority figure in his household. Would you not agree that such behavior can encourage toxicity? Ergo, that behavior is a form of "Toxic Masculinity"?
Dora means "gift". The perfect name for a baby she wanted so badly.
Pearl more accurately in Arabic
Though it can also mean gift….
@@Logistics_Sandar I think "pearl" in Arabic is "Lulwa" (pearls is Lulu). Dora means "gift" in Greek and "generation" in Hebrew.
@@Logistics_Sandarthe language Farsi is dominantly spoken in Iran and is far closer to Greek than it is to Arabic.
@@popeye1426 Farsi has been influenced by Arabic ….
For over 1400 years….
Heck Farsi is even written With Arabic Letters…. Arabic Letters….
Some of the most important linguist in Arabic Grammer and literature are Persian…( I could name at least a hundred) ….Pre-Islamic Farsi is an absolute different Language than the current version
…. What does ancient Greek have to do with the current VERSION OF Farsi….
Heck , Ancient Greek is different from the current version of Greek….
Stop spouting nonsense
@@Logistics_Sandar while my original comment is incorrect and I do give you that the characters in this episode are Orthodox Jewish and are far more likely to choose a name because of the Hebrew roots rather than Arabic roots. Dora is related to the Hebrew name “Dor” which can mean generation or period.
Anyone else think that this is one of the most acceptable murders of law and order?
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We all stand and say "aye". AYE!!!
I do
Agreed.
If you can justify one, you can justify two
as the saying goes love hurts but being unloved hurts more
I think they were all in on it because they all had either something to gain from him or something to get back at him for. The wife didnt want an autopsy and was conveniently out of the house and she had money to gain from him, the daughter was being ditched by her father and the son in law hated how his wife was being treated. The son in law probably took it upon himself to do the deed and was courageous enough to take the fall. I think the only one who didnt benefit from this is the actual son.
Jewish-Iranian culture can lead to this type of tragedy. Parents coerce & raise children to not be their own self but to be of servitude to their parents preaching religious values yet go against their own sayings continuously. Something this vile hasn’t happened & I hope it doesn’t. Yet children sacrifice their own desires & dreams for being at their beck and call, and in the end for nothing. I’ve seen it too many times in the persian community being half Iranian myself. The culture is the problem, not the people.
...and it adds up if the family is wealthy
An all too common vice of people in positions of power… they get arrogant enough to think the rules they enforce don’t really apply to them.
Also the result of a vice all too common with people in a position of power... they come to think the rules and values they enforce don't have to apply to them. I'd say the problem is also people who twist the culture for their own benefit.
A majority of world cultures do this
Describes my Midwestern Evangelical Christian household too. I think this concept of "do as I say, not as I do" wrapped in Religion is actually a pretty common perversion of some basic text that exists in all the abrahamic religions, "obey thy mother & father" yada yada "spare the rod".
I think it happens more often when people need to feel better than others because they are inheritently broken in some way, and they can't stand anyone seeing that. It's also really inviting when you feel out of control to have this one area where it's socially acceptable to control others or your "household". They cling to scripture as if it's a reflection of who they are as people, instead of just an addition to their personality - it IS their personality. Then they pressure their kids into the same beliefs and values because going against them is going against who they are as people. They just don't know who they are without religion. It's also super convenient when most religions have a "redo" button to gain forgiveness or mercy for their actions, even if they are blatantly hypocritical.
Americans who think they know about Jewish people are probably used to seeing Ashkenazi customs. Iranian, Syrian, Bukharian, Moroccan, Greek, and Yemenite are far different. Some of them have weird concepts of loyalty to family and obeying the parents.
Jack McCoy in the court was ALWAYS a must see because Sam Waterston would just light up those scenes 😤🎊🙌💚
One of my top 5 DA's in the show
Sam was great as Charlie Skinner in The Newsroom too
Her father could have been more understanding considering what that woman sacrificed for the sake of her father, a child that she wanted so badly!
He saw no need to be understanding, because he took her obedience as his due.
Second to last episode for Det Lennie Briscoe (Jerry Orbach)
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I'm surprised to learn that Dale was a lawyer before the apocalypse
2nd time
Ain’t even posting the reboot 😂
Nothing will beat this
Family feud always sounds like a game show!
Put Family Feud in Jeopardy! Perfect idea
Also in rare circumstances always there's the autopsy
8:43 "Holey Moley Donut Shop!" Friday After Next
Spoilers please?!
Not to condone murder or anythibg buuuut... Dear old dad kinda had it coming 😂
Oh he did.
Old perv got every bit of what was coming for him.
Couldn’t they just get a Jewish mortician/autopsy?
The episode got it wrong - it has nothing to do with a secular person touching the body - religious law doesn’t allow an autopsy period ( unless foul play in which there are many strict guidelines on how to proceed ) due to the whole body having to be buried including every drop of blood..) hope that helps !
@@RochelAvtzon So, the murderers go free in this community!?
Some traditions are not worth having! Esp if they don’t allow adoptions nor interested in truth and justice!
We are supposed to care about these things and help the orphans!
@@lenitaa7938 there are many traditions and cultures that arent worth having, like islam
Yes indeed. Morty Mortimer.
@@lenitaa7938 As she said, "unless foul play is suspected." In the case of this episode, the family had an ulterior motive to avoid an investigation--as comments above point out, everyone in the family either had it in for him or stood to gain by his death. But in real life very few Orthodox Jews have relatives out to kill them.
Senior and Dave decades before Billions
And it’s NOT 24 hours. It’s three days.
It’s as soon as possible, if possible, before sundown same day.
So not cool man
What was the outcome?
Whether it was the daughter or the husband being the murderer was never made clear. However, the daughter was acquitted and the husband arrested for the murder.
@@mystikx2205I wonder if it was either. What murderer brings the pillow into their own bedroom? I think the new wife put it into the daughter’s bedroom while the daughter, her husband and the servant were all in the dining room. The husband thinks his wife did it and lies to protect her, and his wife will think he did it and lie to protect him.
When the ADA starting listing all the stuff, didn’t it sound like the perfect frame job? Again, picture it, either smothers him and then runs into their own bedroom and puts the pillow down. I wish Jack had used common sense.
Yeah I mean no matter how you play it if one wouldn't do it the other was gonna do it. The old man was the definition of a masculine toxic tyrant who had it coming after EVERYTHING his daughter did for him and his home he does what he did. He ain't getting any sympathy points from me whether it was the daughter or her husband. The old man's marriage and desire to kick his daughter out of the house right after denying them a child they so desperately wanted was the final straw. And now the daughter and her husband have to live without the other which in turn is their own other kind of punishment but to them at least they were free from the old man.
Wait Im confused, Judism has a long history of adoption. Its encouraged. What sect is this supposed to be?
Adoption outside of their community though? The baby was Chinese
Some traditions just gotta go
Traditions are just peer pressure from ancestors.
3:44 if it’s not the wife then they really don’t care about reality.
Personally, I think they did it together
You know its a great episode of L&O when Jeffrey DeMunn shows up as the defense...
Hey look! It’s this video again!
Is that Maz Jabrani I see in the robe?
no crime here
I was adopted by Orthodox Jews and couldn’t have asked for a better life 🩷🩷🩷
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