Find And Use The Optional Power Socket On Your BMW R1200RT
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Owners of BMW R1200RT, or other motorcycle models, like the GS, R and K series, often want to install aftermarket GPS (SATNAV) units or a smart phone cradle rather than the factory GPS. Switched 12 volt power is needed for these units and there is a power socket or "port' available. It is intended for the factory units, but it can be easily repurposed without upsetting the CANBUS system. The trouble is locating the connector and making it work with the third party units. This video shows you how to find the connector on the harness, and gives some tips on how to best use it.
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This video was exactly what I needed to install my Admore light! Even though my bike is a 2007, it was spot on. I kept finding post that said "just use the GPS Power Socket" like everyone in the world is supposed to know where what that looks like and where it is!! Thank you for posting. Ride Safe
That is a neat solution.
Another possibility is to use that switched wire to feed a relais, that switches on/off a fuse block.
Then one can go from there to connect whatever one needs.
The power draw from the relais is practically zero, so the canbus system will not "complain" about it.
Stay safe...
Ed.
Yes, that's true. If you have something more substantial to run than a GPS or phone, a relay with a fuseblock and direct battery connection is a great option.
Your video was a huge help thank you from uk
Brilliant detailed explanation. Hopefully when I get home it will apply to my 800GSA
Great help, I just picked up a used 2009 R1200 RT and will be looking for that wire. Keep up all the wonderful videos to help out all us newbies.
Nice video. It should be mentioned that this is a "camhead" 2010 to 2013 model. On my 2010 I found the plug taped to the top of the frame behind (towards the rider) the fork neck. Removal of side tupperware is required to get at mine. Thanks for including the plug part number - it is a little tight in there for soldering.
Great video! Did not know about that power supply. Subscribing to your channel, I watched the video of you reshaping your seat , did the same and added gel pad. Now I can get my feet on the ground, thanks so much!
That's great--it's so much better when you can feel comfortable on your bike!
Tx for the video. Used it with socket for the TomTom rider on my 05 RT
2007 R1200 GS , found mine taped to steering column, if I just cut the tape to begin with, i wouldn't have had to remove all the plastics, but def made it easier, i dont have ship in a bottle builder hands
Yeah, once you know where the connection is you can probably wriggle in there, but removing the plastic for the first time does make it easier to see and handle.
A cigarette style port would also allow you to use other devices when power is needed. For example, a plug-in tire pump for emergencies.
Yes, exactly.
Thanks for this, just fitted garmin to my 2013 gsa 👍🏻
April 2023
Glad it helped. The GS and RT are similar or identical in many areas.
Excellent timing! I watched your GPS mount video and have the ram mount components on the way. I have the same bike as you and just found that power socket thanks to this video. Thank you!
Timing is everything in life!
Excellent video John, could I find that socket that all the forum’s talk about, no way, ended up going straight to battery for Sat Nav, now I can do it right, big thanks for sharing, 😃👍
I feel bad I didn't make the video earlier--it's so simple once you have a visual about where to find the thing!
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thanks for the time and effort to show this in great detail. I have just found my power plug on my 2012 R1200R on the right side near the front of the fuel tank ( with a 2 wire plug-brown & red/white). It was secured from the factory with a zip tie against the frame. Now I need to order a "plug and play" male plug and then determine if I need a "cigarette lighter" plug as you used, or a USB plug, or if I will splice the wires to the GPS wires.
You did a fantastic job of showing all of the different scenarios one might encounter. You are a real teacher.
Do you know if there is enough power in this supply to split and run a GPS & charge a cell phone?
I don't know for sure, but I suspect you probably can. Neither draws much power. You could certainly test the idea by temporarily connecting both. They make "dual" cigarette lighter receptacles or half cigarette half USB. Incidentally, if you use the cigarette lighter style, I wrapped a loop of electrical tape around the junction of the male and female ends just so they don't wiggle apart during riding.
afaik the middle 'pulse' wire allows the gps to know the bike is still moving when it loses gps signal, in tunnels etc, which allows the gps to make more accurate guess about location to display on screen
I didn't follow you at first. So you're saying the factory GPS uses the pulse signal? Interesting. I don't have the factory GPS, so that's not something I can check.
@@tinderboxarts my bike gps isn't bmw either so i just tapped into the power and earth line of that cable....but it makes sense that in adverse reception conditions knowing what speed is doing would help the gps processor with a better dead-reckoning guesstimate as to where the bike was and hence justifythe higher price over the zumo etc
Is the blue/green for the Wonder Wheel input? Apparently the BMW navigation unit utilises it.
There will be differences among model years. In the model year (and others) shown in the video, there is just a positive and negative wire, plus a tachometer wire which is no longer used.
I've just found this plug on my 2012 K1300R (it's just forward of the battery on this bike). I suspect this circuit is ground-switched by the body control module though, because if you put your positive probe on the plug and your negative probe on the battery negative, the plug is permanently live.
Some additional evidence here is that the plug was providing 11.5v when the bike had been off for a while, battery voltage (13v) after I turned the ignition switch on, and 14v when the bike was running. There would be no reason to only get 11.5v on this plug unless I was getting regulated power from the BCM in the "off" state.
I'll re-validate these measurements and come back if I'm proven wrong.
I never checked that, and I also don't know if the RT and K bikes are identical in this regard. It's important to remember that the CANBUS system keeps the circuit alive for some period normally.
@@tinderboxarts I re-validated and I was way off. My old man eyes were reading it as 11.5v but it's actually 1.15 volts. It depends on the sensitivity of your multimeter but mine reads a potential of 1.15 volts when the circuit is off. My *other* multimeter (a power probe) reads 0.0 volts.
Anyway I made a video about my experience (it's more about Quad Lock than the power socket): ruclips.net/video/dyxqWMcmHjY/видео.html
Old man eyes. Lot of that going around!
Thanks for making these videos for the 2012 R1200RT. I just purchased the same BMW, same year. Very helpful!!! I have a question please. Is this optional power socket feasible for charging a cell phone? Thanks in advance.
That power socket is designed to power a factory GPS unit, which does not draw a lot of power. Your cell phone is also a low-draw device so you could use that circuit for your phone. However, if you plan on adding additional devices on that same circuit you may run into problems. If you try and power a GPS and a phone and a dashcam, you'll be pulling too many amps. So if it's just your phone you'll be fine. If you need to power other devices too, you could consider other options such as adding a HEX EzCan system or using the DIN connector on the fairing with a converter.
@@tinderboxarts thanks so much! I appreciate the detailed reply. Was hoping it would be enough for the cell phone which I also use for navigation. I appreciate all your R1200rt videos. I just got mine. Next time you remove body panels / Tupperware, would you consider making a video ? Keeping a library of the ones you’ve done. Thanks again. Kind regards , Mark
That's a good idea on the body panels, I'll put that on the list.
Sory im was wrong, socket works she is live when key is on and if you turn it of she is steel live for some time around 2 min, i chek it with tester, but my garmin zumo 595lm is still on and charging even you turn the key of garmin charging longer than 2 mins
My goodness John,you have a clean machine....... Regarding the optional connection,,,, I actually have the factory connection kit,, its just a socket and two wires (I think two it been about 3 years since I bought it),, I will have a delve this coming week,,, Thanks alot
It's funny, I'm good and sick of washing and waxing the trucks and cars and trailer in my driveway, but my motorcycles I actually enjoy keeping clean. It only take a few minutes since they are so small, and I've been using "waterless wash" which just sprays on and wipes off.
@@tinderboxarts Well HaHa I am the opposite! my car is perfect....my bike s all I will say is I should be shot....
How much stuff can you hook up to one plug? Can you hook up gps AND a USB for charing phone ?
This circuit is designed to power a factory GPS. There are no published specs on the amperage it can supply, as far as I know. You could try a temporary connection for your phone and GPS to see if the system shuts down the circuit and complains. Probably, though, it would be best just to leave it for your GPS and create another circuit for charging your phone or other devices. You can do that either by installing a third party device like the HEX EZcan, or by installing a fusebox directly off the battery terminals.
Great video, thanks. Would you let me know where you sourced the wiring diagrams - very useful. Thanks.
Those were from the Haynes manual. Honestly, the diagrams are not perfect or super detailed, but they are better than nothing. At least it gives you a basic roadmap.
Thank you for a great video and other videos about the RT. Can you tell which Garmin GPS you have on your bike?
Just an inexpensive automotive type. I think it was the "Nuvi" series, which may be discontinued now. Any automotive type will work fine, though.
Great close up focus and explanation. BMW newbie with a 2001 1150 GS. Will you/anybody tell me what is the deal with the smaller 'cigarette lighter' or power ports on BMW bikes? Or maybe it is some sort of european standard? Do they still do that on newer models? I don't know what the thing is called. : ) In my little mind all I need to do is get an adapter to plug into this BMW type port and then I can fire up cigarettes all day and all night, or power whatever I want. Thought it would be simple to find one on ebay. Well, not when you don't know the terminology. Bless my little heart.
That's known as a DIN port, and it is a European standard. However, you can easily find adapters on Amazon or other places. They are still used on newer BMW bikes.
This is a great video instruction, even for someone like me. I have no mechanical skills. My "factory" BMW Navigator IV died and I am replacing it with a Garmin XT. I have the "factory" cross bar and mount in place for the Navi IV. Will the power cable that was routed to the Navi IV work for my new XT? I realize I'll need a different mounting bracket and am leaning toward the Touratech.
I'm not sure about that, but the new Garmin will come with it's own cable. You can always use that as I showed in the video. The thing to understand is that the GPS unit needs to see a genuine Garmin cable or else it will go into "PC" communication mode because it believes you are plugging in a generic cable for communication with a PC.
great article. I just bought a 2005 1200 rt what gps mount bracket are you using
I made my own, shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/I5Hk-LNvxqw/видео.html
Great Vídeo. Is it possible to use that extra socket for auxiliary lights?
No, the lights would draw too much power for that circuit. Instead, you could install a third party device like the Hex EZCAN or install a relay on the circuit shown in the video to control straight battery power to your lights. More info here: ruclips.net/video/r4w9XQXcsMk/видео.html
@@tinderboxarts great !! thank you very much
I lost power on this plug and I can't figure out why. Any suggestions?
Possibly there was a short or similar problem, in which case the computer would shut the circuit down and present an error code. You could read that code with a GS-911 device or a motoscan app. It's also possible you have a broken wire.
Thanks for the video! - but I still have a question: I have found the white connector on my 1250RT but it is already connected to a black connector and the wire seems to come from the battery area and head back towards the battery. i.e. It doesn't seem to be a spur waiting for something to be plugged into it. What do I need to do to connect an accessory - will I be unplugging another circuit the bike needs?
Well, it's pretty difficult to offer advice without some pictures, but two things come to mind. First, the video was made with an older RT as an example, so it's possible your 1250 is slightly different. Second, if the plug you found is already in use, then it would be connected to the factory GPS--do you have one? If it turns out that circuit is already in use, there are other options for adding circuits. See this video: ruclips.net/video/0wyMCMryQ6c/видео.html
@@tinderboxarts I forgot to thank you for this reply! Thanks! - you were right, the factory unit was already using the "spare" socket but I found a workaround in the end.
Hey, where did you get that book?.
The Haynes manual? You can usually find them on Amazon or Ebay. I think the pandemic did slow down production, so they may be harder to find now.
John how do you feed the power cable from the bracket to the plug? Worried about doing it via the windshield adjustment motor. BTW I have the new RAM wireless charging bracket. Amazing
I fed mine up between the cracks in the plastic dash on the rider side. There's lots of room there and rubbing hasn't been a problem. I didn't even have to take anything apart, you can just slide the wire in from the side.
Any idea how to find the fuses on 2017 R1200RT? My power outlets stopped working as well no power to charge my GPS head unit. Can't find the fuseboxes amd the owner's manual is of no use. I pulled the ECMs out of their holders front and rear seats but can't see anything underneath them, nor around the battery area
Some model years do have a couple fuses protecting the alternator or instrument cluster, but by and large the RT uses the CANBUS system: ruclips.net/video/r4w9XQXcsMk/видео.html
@@tinderboxarts Thank you very much for the info. I think this is the case. I put a very good quality battery tender on the auxiliary plug outlet and at some point the auxiliary stopped working. I've never had anything plugged into it before or since and I've deleted all the fault codes as well I've had the battery out. I think I'm going to hardware a fused plug to the battery for future charging operations but I still want to get the auxiliary ports working and of course power to my GPS
If it is a CANBUS protected circuit, the system will recognize when it is operable again and allow power to the circuit. Take a look to see if you have a broken or pinched wire, or a connector which fell off, etc.
@@tinderboxarts strange, I had to ride it a few kms to get it to reset after having cleared the codes w SnapOn scanner. Now all working. I pulled the battery back out and installed a direct connection to battery w 20 amp fuse for charging. Thanks for making the internet a better place w heat videos and tutorials. Awesome 👌
Yeah, this is pretty common with all computer controlled vehicles made in the last 10-15 years. The computer needs to see a preprogrammed threshold of distance or time or both with no faults before it will clear. Interestingly, cars now have a "permanent" fault code which is stored for some emissions problems. You can clear the code and turn the light off, but the record will stay in the computer for quite a long time--hundreds of miles. This was done so that when emissions testing is done owners can't just clear the code quickly to pass their state inspection. The problem has to actually be gone and evidence of miles put on the car before the permanent record is finally purged by the computer.
hey, i have a mount for my gps with 4 buttons, there will be a wires harness with 2 x 2 wires and 2 different connectors, which one should i use on my r1200rt 2007?
I don't follow you. Is this an official BMW mount with the OEM GPS, or are you trying to mount a third party GPS? Third party GPS will only need a power source, typically, which is what this video was about. If you are using the BMW mount and GPS, there may also be additional wires for controls.
What crash bar is installed on the bike?
Those are no-name bars purchased on ebay, probably Chinese made. They are identical to the Wunderlich bars, and probably made in the same factory for all I know! I've had no issues with them.
I just bought some Aux lights for my 2008 r1200rtp and the lights have a ground wire, power wire and Acc wire....where would I connect the acc wire?
To install lights your choice is either to connect directly to the battery with a manual switch, to set up a relay instead of a manual switch, or to use a device like the Hex ezCAN which ties into the CANBUS network. If your lights came with a relay, you may be able to use the harness connection in this video. But I can't tell from your description what all you have.
That socket is for when power is on I.e. key in so no good for charging..
Do you mean putting the bike on a battery charger or do you mean charging a phone or GPS? This video was about the switched power you can use for GPS or similar device, and it will shut down after the key is switched off and about 20 seconds or so. So the device would be running off bike power when the key is on and charging it's own internal battery in the process. Key off an the power shuts off after 20 seconds or so.
If you are referring to charging the bike battery, you can charge through one of the accessory DIN sockets if you wish, as long as you have a CANBUS compatible charger. Personally I prefer an SAE cable wired directly to the battery.
Switch live is perfect for charging, permanent live would drain your battery!
Hello!please can i have all the diagram electeric of bmw r1200rt please !please!
The Haynes books have the diagrams you are looking for. They are not perfect, but they are the only ones that I know exist.
@@tinderboxarts merci!
AWG=Average wire gauge
Not American 😏
Au contraire! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge