The TRUTH About What Catches MORE Fish?? Realistic vs “buggy” Flies (#3)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @miestro51
    @miestro51 Год назад +2

    I love watching you tie so quickly and effectively so many patterns and flies, while speaking candidly about so many fascinating fly fishing topics. I can hardly wait to hunt down more of your videos.

  • @marksmith-we4fm
    @marksmith-we4fm Год назад +1

    Thrilled to find a tying video in this format of concise video accompanied by smooth commentary. Love it.

  • @sirtango1
    @sirtango1 5 месяцев назад +1

    I started fly tying with a pair of needle nose vice grips locked into a bench vise. I tied for some local sporting goods stores and guides on a $12 vise. I think my most expensive vise was around $55. To each his own. But if you’re tying extremely small flies, like size 18,20,22, etc you can buy a midge head. An adapter for the larger vises to hold the smaller hooks better. You don’t need a $300 pair of vise grips to hold a hook. It can be more convenient, but save that money for hooks, bobbins, and materials. The vise simply holds a hook.

  • @rjohnson5120
    @rjohnson5120 Год назад +1

    Brilliant recommendation to fish for easy species. That’s my problem. Well, one of them. How to handle a fish once on the hook. I’ll add that I started tying on the cheapest piece of metal made-in-India vise. Came in a tiny kit with crappy materials. But I learned a ton, it worked just fine, and I decided that I was hooked. Love your channel. Thank you!
    EDIT - Careful. lots of local regulations prohibit artificial scent on fly fishing only sections

  • @bac1308
    @bac1308 Год назад +6

    I woke up recently and decided I wanted to tie flies and ran into your channel. I'm a bass fisherman but there's so much pressure on my local city lake pond that i wanted to try something different.
    Its kind of funny listening about realism as I'm sitting here trying to tie the most obnoxiously loud looking bait I can (going to try realistic bait fish later).
    Either way, really enjoy listening while I'm figuring this out and the camera so close is helping me see where I'm being sloppy.

    • @platty9237
      @platty9237 Год назад

      I’ve caught quite a few smallmouth using wooly bugger and similar patterns. I’ve had fun tying the flashy olive polar chenille-type stuff. I say go for it.

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад

      I'm not the biggest bass fisherman. Mostly because of where I live, lots of cold water fish species here. But I still enjoy it and the crazy patterns they take. I'll have some bass specific stuff that comes up as well. Maybe bring a guest who knows more than me.

  • @JeremyLamovsky
    @JeremyLamovsky 3 месяца назад

    I tied my first fly when i was somewhere between 10-12. We stopped fishing for steelhead for whatever reason. Now 34 i decided to give it a try this past winter since i got into steelhead again and i love it. Its def. Something worth trying. I bought a crap vice even Though i knew id like it. I tie a lot of jigs as well because i still use spinning and centerpins. Had to get a regal after a few months. It relaxes me

  • @oldsmugglerflyfishing
    @oldsmugglerflyfishing Год назад +6

    I´m a buggy fly team member!!

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Год назад +2

    Thank you for answering my question =) btw I dont use scents. Its just too much of a hassle, and I dont like my gear smelling like them....or my hands.

  • @davidbrattain1446
    @davidbrattain1446 Год назад +3

    Thoughts given 50 years of fishing with over half of it fly fishing for trout, bass, bonefish, snook, blues, sea trout, etc. I'm speaking of trout in freshwater now. If waters are clear, low and fish are being selective, an imitative pattern is generally better. However if water is stained, fast, or subject to lower fishing pressure an impressionistic pattern is generally better. Some of the greatest patterns of all time look like many different food forms and none in particular. Trout, (especially those over 13 inches) are very opportunistic feeders (this is how they stay big). As such, they will often take something that has the right "triggers" to stimulate their instinct to take. This is not to say that imitative patterns won't work, it's just that in some circumstances, they are not as effective as impressionistic flies. I try to keep a variety of flies in my box so that I can make the call when I've seen the water.

  • @batch6792
    @batch6792 Год назад +15

    For anyone getting into tying . . . - Do it. Theres nothing better than catching a fish on a fly youve tied. 😊

  • @johndelaney8405
    @johndelaney8405 Год назад

    Just discovered your channel, great podcast, super looking flies. I, like you started tying around 8 or 9 years of age in Ireland, had a long hiatus after age 25, relocation to Pittsburgh, work family ect, ect. First fishing trip in Pittsburgh put me off fishing here, (opening day in a polluted, crowded put & take😢)anyways back at it full time now I'm retired. purchased my first none beginner vice a few years ago, learning all the new materials and techniques has been great..thanks for great content..👍👏

  • @cmcduff1297
    @cmcduff1297 Год назад

    Great videos, fast complete not a bunch of talk.
    Because I use barbless hooks, I will tie in and secure a mono loop at the tail for a dropper.

  • @OregonFishingGuy
    @OregonFishingGuy Год назад

    I just found your channel. I thoroughly enjoyed watching you tie these flys. I wish I could see better so I could do that.

  • @marktownsend934
    @marktownsend934 5 месяцев назад

    Just stumbled across this podcast video after stealing your dope golden stone pattern! From Alberta Canada and moved to Oregon, I can confirm new rivers go buggy!
    Angling for steelhead is a huge pain the d*ck though and requires hella tying creativity.
    Thanks for the patterns, you definitely earned a sub! Killer fly tying man 🤝

  • @ilcamarin5259
    @ilcamarin5259 Год назад +1

    Amazing!I am grateful for the information!
    Thanks for all!

  • @robgreen6697
    @robgreen6697 Год назад

    Oholi’s Flies has some great videos on thread control well worth a watch.

  • @joshuashouse9559
    @joshuashouse9559 9 месяцев назад

    Ypu got me into fly tying love the one min shorts started there been following along some of flys I just make n don't use but love Makin them with ya

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  8 месяцев назад

      Thats awesome! Great to hear you are enjoying the hobby. Could always donate them as well if you end up with a pile of them

  • @ugsisr
    @ugsisr Год назад +1

    100% in agreement... Buggy Nymphs presented where the fish are feeding catch fish. Thank You

  • @brianfeeney9493
    @brianfeeney9493 Год назад

    Thank You Jesse from NW Michigan Waters 🎉
    Enjoy Your Work !
    Brian
    ✨ 🎣 💫

  • @robertmaldonado4529
    @robertmaldonado4529 Год назад

    Yes you are absolutely right I've been fly tying many years and its good to have both good job.

  • @cliffcampbell8827
    @cliffcampbell8827 Год назад

    I tried something different lately and it has caught some big rainbows, browns, cut-bows and cutthroats... I was using crankbaits and jerkbaits drifted through small drop but wide waterfalls. Want big trout? Use big lures. The problem with using bass lures is you get one chance using them before the fish learn what NOT to bite on, then you have to move on up or down river to a new spot.

  • @mariahm.7199
    @mariahm.7199 Год назад

    The flies look so good!!! Omgggg!

  • @platty9237
    @platty9237 Год назад

    Oh wow. You just got me thinking. I bet people have 3d printing patterns for hoppers legs. I may have to look and try printing a few.

  • @Anthony-o4z9t
    @Anthony-o4z9t 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for the videos very informative and entertaining a life time ago I used to fish the West Branch of the Penobscot for Land locks is the fishery still viable? Thank you in advance

  • @warriorchef
    @warriorchef 4 месяца назад

    The fly you started tying at about 15:45….Do you have a video on it? I’d love to try and tie it. I’m not sure i have the tail material though. Thanks.

  • @benperchalski4825
    @benperchalski4825 Год назад +2

    Keep this channel coming. I'm extremely fresh with fly fishing. A little over 2 months as of now and I've been tying since the start of may. You and a few other fellas had me wanting to tie. I already have an ok parachute I can tie on a size 12 and my eyes hurt afterwards... Lol. It's odd how I've been taken by fly fishing and tying, it's like being a kid again learning how to fish again. I have 2 rods, both 4-6wt, an 8ft which is pretty stiff to me and a 9ft that's ultra sensitive to me. The 8ft has a 4lb leader on it and the 9ft has a 10lb on it. I need all the insight I can get my hands on to better my skills because it is really fun fly fishing and tying

    • @jaynesjunction
      @jaynesjunction Год назад +2

      Dang - if you have only started tying in May and already doing parachute flies... "you are a wizard harry". Ive been tying for over 30 years, and still avoid those when possible.

    • @benperchalski4825
      @benperchalski4825 Год назад

      @@jaynesjunction I just tied my first mayfly about 3 days ago and it's not shabby. I'd like to show a pic but no option to share them here so. Orange foam done with green permanent marker so it looks spotted with orange, thorax with a darker blue reflective feather wing complete with antenna. I started tying on size 16 too and already have parachutes tied on them which is a bit rough still but not bad either

    • @jaynesjunction
      @jaynesjunction Год назад +1

      @@benperchalski4825 Awesome - the key is here is to allow yourself to make mistakes. You may gain immense insight from RUclips videos, but getting behind the vise and refining through trial and error is invaluable. Keep it up, and go catch some fish with your creations. For the milliseconds that fish has to make a decision on, they don't need pure perfection, they need presentation. Cheers!

    • @benperchalski4825
      @benperchalski4825 Год назад

      @@jaynesjunction I'm surely pushing to achieve more with this new hobby but it's not the easiest in my current situation. I make due with what I have to work with and continue to add to my tools both knowledge and equipment. It's been a ton of fun especially tying new things on the spot when certain things are not working right then. Learning the usage of feathers has been fun and I kind of faded off of the hair techniques which I believe is a mistake but I'll work back into that soon. Feathers have kinda proven to be a puzzle for me and I have a lot in numerous colors. The hard part for me if what types of feathers for what types of flies. Whose feathers and what part of the body they come from has been the hardest part altogether for me. When and how to use them is the 2nd hardest so far.. the easiest so far has been using foam and wire for ribbing.
      But thank you though for the encouragement...... tight lines

  • @JeremyCulbreath
    @JeremyCulbreath 5 месяцев назад

    I live in Arkansas. Scented baits are prohibited in any of the areas that are specified as catch and release. I can see that easily interpreted as scenting flies by storing them in powerbait. And most of the areas that are catch and release are patrolled pretty heavily by AGFC.

  • @yunghiga3556
    @yunghiga3556 3 месяца назад

    Most predators if they have the opportunity to choose between a bunch of prey they usually choose the weakest and the one that show different patterns .

  • @ThueyOutdoors
    @ThueyOutdoors 5 месяцев назад

    Some good questions🔥

  • @user-rk7kg9ik2c
    @user-rk7kg9ik2c Год назад

    Hugely helpful. I have been too oriented to matching the hatch. Everything you said makes lots of sense. Many thanks.

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад

      Hope it helps you catch more fish. Just look at the size and profile of the hatch and 8/10 times that will do the trick

  • @mixedmartialnutrition1746
    @mixedmartialnutrition1746 Год назад

    14:45 holy moly what is that pattern called some kind of game changer? first time seeing that

  • @s009nell
    @s009nell Год назад

    🤙 Buggy versus realistic - Great topic. Interesting that this year, I've caught more bass on realistic stonefly patterns with my boys at the pond than I have trout in cold water. On the flip side, some of my buddies went on a trip to trout water in southern MO, and he caught a 30"+ rainbow on a fuzzy little #14 tan scud with a red thread head.

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    I caught my first fish on a fly I tied when I was 8, small crappie, like 40 of them in a few hrs grey leach.

  • @fightthelies4349
    @fightthelies4349 Год назад

    i make a UV glass bead that's clear until its hit with a blacklight. it catches big trout. not sure about them losing uv sight.

  • @paulmclaughlin808
    @paulmclaughlin808 Год назад

    I notice that the video is 3 months old. And I am on my way to Maine going to. Moosehead lake and I was wondering how the fishing is around it

  • @iklink
    @iklink Год назад +1

    I personally don't care about thread size. I got a free entire tying kit from my friend and I don't even think about thread size. Thank God

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +1

      You should definitely think about size depending what you tie. It can make a huge difference on how clean they turn out. If you care about that anyway, fish likely don’t

  • @philipjones6083
    @philipjones6083 Месяц назад

    Great advise

  • @-OokySpooky-
    @-OokySpooky- 9 месяцев назад

    Sooo I'm not sure how my input here is gonna be received but I don't fly fish - I spin fish leisurely. I DO make flies though! And I fish with them! I only got into it bc I bought a UV resin setup for a different project and got curious. Now Im hooked. Ive found that i like to go buggy bc it lets me be absoluuutely insane with my designs which is the part I like. I use LOTS of iridescence and blues and green, hints of rusty reds and dark yellows. Ive got into the habit of tying peacock mylar tubing over a black bead bc it DEAD ON looks like compound eyes, its on almost all my flies. I pull it as thin as possible, put it THROUGH the bead, then double the long end ove so it inverts and covers the bead, trim with a bit of excess so you can secure it THEN I put the bead on the hook and start imagining my pattern. Like I said I dont fly but all of my flies catch fish, I've learn the realistic worms and eggs are reaaally good but their not as fun.
    I've tried a couple of realistic flies but maybe I'm doing something wrong bc I get hits but I feel like Im waiting on them a bit more than buggy ones - its probably a bias bc I dont like tying them really and Im grumpy all that extra time and attention doesnt just magically give me an instant fish.
    Lately I've been reaaaallly into seeing just how absolutely wild and not like a real bug I can go to still get a good catch. So far the one that blows my mind is a hot pink base with yellow and charteuse hackle tail thingies (I forgot what youd call them) big gold spaced out wire wraps and a huge wide peacock hackle corkscrewing down the whole length afoling that wide spacing of the gold to try and show off that pink body. I call it "The Eyesore"
    Again, ive only been doing this for like 2 years and Im a spin fisher which is probally makes none of it count to you guys but its fun for me and I get fish so 🤷 just my 2 cents. I love this channel though, I so much fun to watch and learn and get new ideas!

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  8 месяцев назад

      Nothing wrong with that! Whatever you enjoy fishing / making is ultimately the way to go. I'm of course very bias to buggy flies my self haha! Because when it comes down to it, fishing is about enjoyment and no one can decide what is best for each individual!

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Год назад

    Another question for you. WOuld you go into colors under water? how far light penetrates, and why fish would choose to bite a purple bugger or blue one. Thank you!

  • @MrSvtcobraman
    @MrSvtcobraman Год назад

    Just stumbled upon this channel. I don't fly fish at all nor do I know anything about tying flies, but geez now I want to go give this stuff a try. Thanks for putting this info out there!

  • @alinaaseh3679
    @alinaaseh3679 3 месяца назад

    In my area of Colorado, it is illegal to use any lure or fly with a scent.

  • @paulmclaughlin808
    @paulmclaughlin808 Год назад

    Plus what are the patterns? That I should use tiktok some fish

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    Trout rarely scent feed, usually only in colored water.

  • @jasonbeary5771
    @jasonbeary5771 Год назад +1

    UV light is largely 'filtered-out' by water. It is one of the pre-conditions that some biologists hold for life evolving in (under) water, largely safe from the intense UV of the sun. There was no oxygen in the atmosphere at the time, so no Ozone. I'd say any UV effect on underwater flies is inconsequential.

    • @eorchids1
      @eorchids1 Год назад

      I think UV materials catch more fisherman today than any other material.🤣Hooked me and I'm still biting!

  • @kennethacheson989
    @kennethacheson989 7 месяцев назад

    About fish Responding to color. Several decades ago, the In Fisherman magazine published a study Done with fish and their detection of color. The study concluded that fish do not See color. But they do detect about 50 different hues. This would explain why. In Lake MI. My most productive lure was A J plug in lime green. That color did not match anything native to the lake. But apparently the lime green. Presented a hue That was attractive to salmon And. To Lake trout and to Steelhead.

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    I spend 3 to 4 hrs tying giant streamers for bull trout only to stick it on a rock third cast!

  • @lifeisgood12341
    @lifeisgood12341 Год назад +1

    On the scenting question, there are laws in places like national parks. You cannot use any scented or live bait.

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад

      Very true. Not sure if there is any in FFO waters though maybe its in some books. Dont think its specified in mine

  • @jasonbeary5771
    @jasonbeary5771 Год назад +1

    Euronymph competition flies are certainly NOT realistic, to be sure. What actual bug has an enormous ball at its front? Euronymphs are just not shaped like a bug, so accuracy of appearance isn't important.

  • @pepitorodriguez6767
    @pepitorodriguez6767 Год назад

    Quisiera ver un video de como
    hacer una LIBÉLULA, Me resultaría interesante.
    Muchas gracias por el trabajo
    que realizan.
    Que viva la pesca.
    🤜🇨🇺🤛

  • @48ford8n
    @48ford8n Год назад +1

    Travel kit sounds like a great idea! Have you made a video of what’s in your travel kit?

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +2

      I haven’t but thats a great idea! Ive even gone so far as to set up multiple tying stations at places I go alot like my parents camp

  • @Donuts_random_stuff
    @Donuts_random_stuff Год назад +1

    Earlier today I posted a comment but forgot to ask a question:
    I once asked if you’d be able to make: a nice buggy look merch
    So I wanted to know if you would do that or not because it sounds like something I’d really like and I think some other viewers as well😅

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +2

      Yes, I'll definitely be getting there. I'll bring it up in the next one too, see if more people are interested

    • @Donuts_random_stuff
      @Donuts_random_stuff Год назад

      @@mainelyfliespodcast nice I hope so

  • @heyjim52
    @heyjim52 Год назад

    I agree let the fish decide , I normally don't try to match the hatch so much as I like to present a fly that suggests a food source but has a feature to it that triggers a trout's predatorial instincts. I don't want to use a fly that looks exactly like the other 10,000 live individuals . I want my fly to separate itself from the others to get the fishes attention.

  • @Boon-ie1rq
    @Boon-ie1rq Год назад +2

    Nothing like tying a 20 mins fly and loosing it on the first cast. 😅

  • @Cardsandstoagies
    @Cardsandstoagies 4 месяца назад

    Is thread size meters per gram?

  • @ronmatuska133
    @ronmatuska133 Год назад

    Buggy is good. I believe the frenchie is the best wet fly and the more the fish tear it up the better it is until it falls apart.

  • @jackieowens215
    @jackieowens215 Год назад

    Plesse list materials needed for making rach fly ☺

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    Thomsaon Atype vice about $20, will hold hook, no rotation or anything special. Peak rotary about $220, I've tied on just about everything, the Petit_jean was better, but not enough better to pay an extra $1k.

  • @theheronknowsprimewater1035
    @theheronknowsprimewater1035 Год назад

    when people say a material has uv in it do they mean it gives off visible light when uv light hits it? Like when you some a uv torch on fluorescent orange beads and the bead looks really bright?
    Or are they talking about materials that reflect uv light well without changing it to light that is visible to humans

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +1

      Little of both. It will reflect wavelengths we cant see but often will also reflect in visible colors as well. Perhaps fish see this the same and its just another hot spot.

  • @ThatSB
    @ThatSB Год назад

    I am convinced that as soon as you try to make something too realistic, it just doesnt actually look that real when put next to the real thing. You take a pheasants tail and Hares ear, get them wet, and flip rocks till you find a brown nymph and white nymph. they look almost exactly like it. It isnt a general pattern. They are nearly spot on

  • @maryjomangrum7301
    @maryjomangrum7301 4 месяца назад

    Like your channel…..👊

  • @Cardsandstoagies
    @Cardsandstoagies 4 месяца назад

    One thing I disagree with in your videos is brushing out the dubbing for that “extra buggy look” I think I would prefer to keep the flies streamlined to sink faster, and if they work on the water, the fish will pick em out for you!

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    I don't scent flies, but I also use 99% natural materials and very few chemicals.

  • @jamesmccreery250
    @jamesmccreery250 Год назад

    Dry flies size and profile.

  • @chucklapine6782
    @chucklapine6782 Год назад

    Ugly flies are for the fish. Pretty flirs are for the fidherman

  • @bobjohnson7207
    @bobjohnson7207 Год назад

    To say a fly is buggy is a bit of a misternomer. The light reflects naturally mimicking the light from the actual bug. I catch the biggest trout every year around here. On a general representation 8 to 10 lb Rainbow's every other trip. What pattern is $1000 question.

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +2

      Not quite sure I followed what your saying but there’s no silver bullets all comes down to what the fish are looking for that day.

  • @maxbatfish
    @maxbatfish Год назад

    You Guyses???

  • @celox6796
    @celox6796 Год назад

    Realistic in the vice =/= realistic moving through the water. Detailed "realistic" flies might be good for clear moving water, but otherwise fish eat things because they fit in their mouth and look like they might be alive (i.e. they move, they push water, they make sound or smell like food), not because they look like an exact copy of that whatever nymph they saw the other day. I still tie imitative flies, but my attempts at imitation focus more on moving like the real thing than looking good in the vice

    • @ObservationofLimits
      @ObservationofLimits Год назад

      You have no idea about trout then. Other than stocked browns, natural brookies and rainbows are incredibly visual. If it doesn't look right they won't grab it.
      You're ascribing crappie and bass type fishing in dirty water to trout in clear mountain streams and rivers. It's not the same at all.

  • @Donuts_random_stuff
    @Donuts_random_stuff Год назад +1

    Unbelievable 1 min in and no1 commented first 😂😂😂

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +1

      looks like you got it! Thanks for stopping by!

    • @Donuts_random_stuff
      @Donuts_random_stuff Год назад

      @@mainelyfliespodcast no problem I was waiting for the new episode im happy it’s posted now thanks for learning me a lot about flies

    • @mainelyfliespodcast
      @mainelyfliespodcast  Год назад +1

      No problem, good to hear you find them useful