Shen Yun makes it look like EVERYBODY in pre-Revolution China was dancing around in hanfu, drinking tea and playing music. Thanks to the CPC helping China and its population become truly prosperous, the PEOPLE are now all sheltered, literate, safe, full, and able enjoy the Chinese traditions that were only reserved for the rich folk.
Lmao. I'm glad I wasn't the only person that thought of this. When I first saw Shen Yun ad, I was like so before 1949, everyone in China was dancing around in hanfu, flying around, dancing, drinking tea, and doing all these arts Lol..don't think so.
I'm a Cuban-American communist and this is one of the weirdest things I've seen. China had nothing to be proud of before the Revolution. At least with Cuba you could say" Look at the hotels" , but China was nothing like that. Their poverty was insane given their population. Love the video
Yeah, as a Chinese person I can say the only things we are proud of is cultural. Our mythology, poetry, beautiful architecture and scientific inventions. While Chinese people across the ages are proud of this, no one is proud of how awful the class divide was under feudalism and how terribly the west bled our country dry. And as a result of the revolution, all those cultural things we're proud of are now MORE accessible to the average Chinese person than ever before
We failed to include the dynasties before the Qing, which is something that I believe one should be proud of. Such as the Han, Tang, Qin, and other dynasties and their many great inventions. The Qing started off strong and expanded the boundaries of what would become modern day China, but eventually ended in poverty and humiliation because of their incompetence to modernize.
I'm mexican. Here, the Shen Yun charade also is presented every year in the largest cities. Of course, pure propaganda, but no one should scar of that as other countries like Russia or the China itself does it have propaganda machines, but yeez! the nowdays western propaganda-style is just obnoxious. On the other hand, talking about the Century of Humiliation, its interesting how a kind of proto-NATO worked together in Boxer Rebellion and again in Bolshevik Revolution.
Sun Yat Sen was one of the world first left wing nationalist leader, and the KMT is one of the first Left wing nationalist political party in the world, but China itself at the time have many feudal Nobilities, petty bourgeoises and industrial bourgeoises hold the sentiments of the past, enriching themselves by exploiting the working populations. The National Bourgeoises at the time is through and through anti common folks, let alone left wing nationalism or left wing communism. Ps: Interesting fact, the KMT left wing sects, exist is a supporting party in the People Republic of China till this day, differ from the right wing KMT in Taiwan. During the Purges of Chiang Kai Shrek, the Sun Yat Sen sect is also one of the target, which them hiding out, providing support to the CPC till after the Revolutions, which they then became a part of the CPC political systems and a local party assisting with administration works.
According to Runme Shaw films China before Communisim was just Iran in the 60s but in a massive rainforest. Like oh crap that guy went blind, Hey where did the lion Go?
One point I have to make here. You can say that the "humiliation" didn't start with the Opium wars, but with the Qing dynasty themselves who were a Machu minority within Han China. Under the Machu, Han were discrimianted against and every man had to have a haircut to look like a horses ass just to show they were inferior The Taiping rebellion wasn't against Europe, it was a mass uprising against the Manchus
Great video!! There needs to be more content like this because it's super informative and really breaks the illusion that some people have. Feudalism should never be romanticized and is hardly a better system than colonialism. Some leftists have an erroneous view that colonized societies were perfect little utopias of tradition before the evil brits came along and ruined it for us. Feudalism is awful as well, and that's hardly a defense of colonialism but rather a justification for socialist revolution to topple two very reactionary systems. I'd add a few points for nuance: -Shen Yun does not perform traditional Chinese dance. As a person with several family members who are in Chinese performance groups, our general take is that Shen Yun performs an odd fusion of ballet, acrobatics, and hanfu cosplay. The show is only able to sell this as "traditional" to audiences because they have absolutely no clue of what Chinese dance should look like. The dancers in Shen Yun literally wear pointe shoes and the singers are trained in bel canto. The whole thing is less Chinese than a soy sauce chicken mcnugget -The Qing dynasty wasn't always anti-modernization. It really depended on which emperors and factions held power at the time. For example, under Kangxi and Qianlong (the greatest two Qing emperors), China did modernize its military in many ways. While these men were in power, the imperialists could only play nice. But when certain political factions like those under Cixi Empress ruled the country, the corruption and decline in quality of life really became a problem and the imperialists took advantage of that. Cixi also actively blocked attempts to modernize because she believed this would threaten her own faction's monopoly of power -Mao wasn't the one who "agreed" to cooperate with Jiang, it was Jiang who had to agree after Mao kidnapped him in Xi'an and forced him to sign the agreement. I might have to verify this myself but I think Mao had come to the scientific marxist conclusion way earlier that only a united force could defeat Japanese imperialism -China didn't really prosper before the century of humiliation either. That depended a lot on time and place, as different rulers produced an average of one famine every year and brutal genocides like the Dzungar genocide happened under the supposedly prosperous, good Qing dynasty rulers. And even before that, we're getting into centuries of empires versus warring states which I'm sure we all know about -Dr. Sun Yat-sen's death in 1925 was so unfortunate for the stability of the nation. The video kind of jumps to when Jiang became the leader of the KMT, but a key factor was Dr. Sun's untimely death culminating in the right-wing faction of the KMT winning out. So incredibly sad and lots of us think things would have gone very differently if he did not die at that time
@@redpen1917dude you need actual citation not just name of one book you used. also if that’s all the sourcing you did for this vid… you should strongly reconsider remaking this vid with more citation
As far as I'm concerned the Chinese people are still in it “It is widely believed that China's socialist economy had relatively high rates of extreme poverty while the capitalist reforms of the 1980s and 1990s delivered rapid progress. This narrative relies on World Bank estimates of the share of people living on less than $1.90 a day (2011 PPP), which show a sharp decline from 88 per cent in 1981 to zero by 2018. However, the World Bank’s poverty line has been critiqued for ignoring variations in the actual cost of meeting basic needs. In this paper we review data published by the OECD on the share of people unable to afford a subsistence basket. These estimates indicate that from 1981 to 1990, when most of China’s socialist provisioning systems were still in place, the country’s extreme poverty rate was on average only 5.6 per cent, substantially lower than in capitalist economies of comparable size and income at the time: 51 per cent in India, 36.5 per cent in Indonesia, and 29.5 per cent in Brazil. China's comparatively strong performance is corroborated by data on other social indicators. Moreover, extreme poverty in China increased during the capitalist reforms of the 1990s, reaching a peak of 68 per cent, as privatisation inflated the prices of essential goods and thus deflated the incomes of the working classes. These results indicate that socialist provisioning policies can be effective at preventing extreme poverty, while market reforms may threaten people's ability to meet basic needs.” www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/13563467.2023.2217087?needAccess=true
So were ignoring how over time with these capitalist policies being the foundation for their modern wealth, their current, and shortly after your cited statistics date, level of poverty is much lower than during the Maoist period? It's just factually wrong to state that they had lower extreme poverty than they do now. You can argue it's the remnant of their left leaning policies which lead to the distribution of said wealth contributing to the lower level of poverty, I wouldn't know enough to argue otherwise, but regardless the wealth came from their liberalization of economy. If you think that life before those capitalist policies, were 'worse' for the average Chinese Citizen because of some discrepancy on the buying power of their currency in the domestic market, then stop dousing your self in A-historical weirdness. And that paper you cited, which compared China's 'equivalently sized capitalist countries' such as... fucking Brazil? India? Indonesia? My nigga, if you are trying to establish the idea 'it's capitalism which causes large rates of extreme poverty and communism aklcutlally lowered it!!!' At least try not to make the single causation fallacy too apparent. Beyond that, how can you trust the reported poverty rate of a totalitarian nation without any transparency or at the very least checks and balances, are they not incentivized to simply lie? They are known for lying about their GDP. As per usual, the attempt to argue for why Maoist China is actually good for their citizens ends up being "b-b-b-ut capitalist country is worse because look at this totally real data and interpretation of their current geo-political stances (This video is so blatantly ignoring a million different things China does in foreign policy which is aggressive and expansionistic, not to mention their domestic shittery)!!!" Mao was a dictator, he isn't some 'comrade' you people pathetically call each other, his policies killed millions, no amount of "but capitalist do this!" Will change that he's a monster and the fact the ideology surrounding him and the one you guys are so close to is what lead to exactly that outcome.
Litterally all just textbook historical moments. You have google if you're so distrusting, you can verify all historic events in 10 minutes if you're so inclined.
This got very propaganday towards the end. It's easier to maintain neutral during discussion of historical events, I suppose. But then... suddenly praising modern China for their commitment to peace, prosperity and neutrality? The same China that's providing tacit economic support and weapons manufacture for Russia right now? The China which has unilaterally declared that it owns the entire South China Sea? The China which is condemned by just about every human rights organisation in the world for their systematic repression of all political opposition? Which maintains the world's most elaborate system of internet censorship, forbidding access to non-Chinese news sources and heavily restricting the import of entertainment media?
@@CarltonSmith45 Well, being fair, China did get utterly fucked over by Europe and especially Britain in the 1800s. The opium wars are pretty much as described: Britain made a giant mountain of money selling opium to China knowing the devastating effect it had on the Chinese people, and when China tried to ban the drug started a war in the name of 'free trade.' But history isn't a satisfying story of heroes and villains: China has been the victim of plenty of atrocities, and has perpetuated plenty more themselves. They continue to do so today, so the sudden jump at the end to praising the modern government of China as some saintly avatars of peace on earth and goodwill to all men was a bit jarring. They remain one of the world's more authoritarian and repressive governments, and are quite open about their expansionist territorial ambitions.
To be fair regular china is just as good at romanizing and "faking" its own history. With or without falun gong. Also I don't think that you can say Mao was good just because he was better than what came before. Also what was that propaganda at the end my guy?
@@chungus816 well yeah but I would differentiate the thanksgiving story from just building whole made up cities Edit: For example look up the Mu Residence
@@Marzipan_Magnat We do the same shit with historical monuments here in Kazakhstan. Some nerds find proof of a structure existing, then they set out and build it exactly as described on paper or in legends about it.
@@Marzipan_Magnat Another good example of a similar thing being performed are the various ancient buildings in Rome. They were reconstructed multiple times over the years due to being in a state of severe disrepair.
The biggest perpetrator of the the South China Sea conflict, the Indo-China border conflicts, etc. cannot be awarded the title of being 'peaceful', especially not in the last 40 years, and it definitely cannot be called peace brokers when they're brokering for the sake of chinese influence and profitability rather than peace. On that note, could you tell us any one successful peace brokering China has done?
When you talk about the South China sea that's a narrative. But it's an easily verifiable fact that China hasn't dropped bombs at another country for the last 40 years. Fact trumps narratives right? And if you want an example of China been peace broker, you need only search on youtube. You already have the keyword.
The biggest perpetrator of the SCS is the US egging its proxy (Philippines) on. Remember when the US sent politicians to Vietnam to try and get Vietnam over against China? Instead Vietnam said 🖕. Vietnam had their differences with China but Vietnam wasn't gonna join the problem makers, US in their road to war.
They are peaceful, deal with it, they brokered peace between Iran and Saudi-Arabia, you want to act like they are occupying countries when they are only taking control of inhabited islands SC sea, is a joke. "Broking for the sake of Chinese influence," it's because China grew economically strong that they brought the two rivals of Shia and Sunni to the negotiating table not the other way around, no one listens to weak nations without influence. China has been peaceful since 1989.
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Shen Yun makes it look like EVERYBODY in pre-Revolution China was dancing around in hanfu, drinking tea and playing music.
Thanks to the CPC helping China and its population become truly prosperous, the PEOPLE are now all sheltered, literate, safe, full, and able enjoy the Chinese traditions that were only reserved for the rich folk.
It’s hard to argue against that
Lmao.
I'm glad I wasn't the only person that thought of this.
When I first saw Shen Yun ad, I was like so before 1949, everyone in China was dancing around in hanfu, flying around, dancing, drinking tea, and doing all these arts
Lol..don't think so.
@@nightowl7261 and after the communist takeover dancing and drinking tea is banned i guess.🤣
Pre revolution china had 5000 years of history to be proud of, but indeed, the chinese state as it was was nothing but a disgrace
@@lasa0031 nah gang, Chinese people on douyin are dancing all the time, or playing valorant
I'm a Cuban-American communist and this is one of the weirdest things I've seen. China had nothing to be proud of before the Revolution. At least with Cuba you could say" Look at the hotels" , but China was nothing like that. Their poverty was insane given their population. Love the video
It always baffles me to also I have literally seen people say Russia during the Russian empire was somehow better than the USSR like what?
@@minecraftdoctorwhoadventur3024 I'm guessing being illiterate and working 20 hours a day for 2 cents was the rave back in the day.
Yeah, as a Chinese person I can say the only things we are proud of is cultural. Our mythology, poetry, beautiful architecture and scientific inventions. While Chinese people across the ages are proud of this, no one is proud of how awful the class divide was under feudalism and how terribly the west bled our country dry. And as a result of the revolution, all those cultural things we're proud of are now MORE accessible to the average Chinese person than ever before
@@OboeWhizzythank the american capitalists/companies
We failed to include the dynasties before the Qing, which is something that I believe one should be proud of. Such as the Han, Tang, Qin, and other dynasties and their many great inventions. The Qing started off strong and expanded the boundaries of what would become modern day China, but eventually ended in poverty and humiliation because of their incompetence to modernize.
Let's take a moment to appreciate The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists 👊💥
An excellent name, and fighting for a truly great cause.
I'm mexican. Here, the Shen Yun charade also is presented every year in the largest cities. Of course, pure propaganda, but no one should scar of that as other countries like Russia or the China itself does it have propaganda machines, but yeez! the nowdays western propaganda-style is just obnoxious. On the other hand, talking about the Century of Humiliation, its interesting how a kind of proto-NATO worked together in Boxer Rebellion and again in Bolshevik Revolution.
Sun Yat Sen was one of the world first left wing nationalist leader, and the KMT is one of the first Left wing nationalist political party in the world, but China itself at the time have many feudal Nobilities, petty bourgeoises and industrial bourgeoises hold the sentiments of the past, enriching themselves by exploiting the working populations.
The National Bourgeoises at the time is through and through anti common folks, let alone left wing nationalism or left wing communism.
Ps: Interesting fact, the KMT left wing sects, exist is a supporting party in the People Republic of China till this day, differ from the right wing KMT in Taiwan. During the Purges of Chiang Kai Shrek, the Sun Yat Sen sect is also one of the target, which them hiding out, providing support to the CPC till after the Revolutions, which they then became a part of the CPC political systems and a local party assisting with administration works.
Been on the lookout for a new vid, very refreshing. Keep up the good work comrade!
This guy is so underrarted
Engagement comment
Parenti quote source please? I want to watch the whole thing because Parenti just does not miss.
ruclips.net/video/geAXmsb_TvU/видео.htmlsi=__IMA85mweldIG5P
@@redpen1917 Perfect, thank you, sidenote;
I'm tempted to translate the transcript into chinese so that a subtitled version can be shared around.
According to Runme Shaw films China before Communisim was just Iran in the 60s but in a massive rainforest. Like oh crap that guy went blind, Hey where did the lion Go?
The Japanese invasion was so _bad_ that it _paused the Chinese Civil War._
shenyun please Americans with their own imagination, so the Americans could look away from the suffering of the others.
Hunt: Showdown music was very unexpected, lol
New subscriber keep up the good work. Comrade
One point I have to make here. You can say that the "humiliation" didn't start with the Opium wars, but with the Qing dynasty themselves who were a Machu minority within Han China. Under the Machu, Han were discrimianted against and every man had to have a haircut to look like a horses ass just to show they were inferior
The Taiping rebellion wasn't against Europe, it was a mass uprising against the Manchus
keep up the excellent videos-- shout out to you!
Amazing video, new fav channel
Great video!! There needs to be more content like this because it's super informative and really breaks the illusion that some people have. Feudalism should never be romanticized and is hardly a better system than colonialism. Some leftists have an erroneous view that colonized societies were perfect little utopias of tradition before the evil brits came along and ruined it for us. Feudalism is awful as well, and that's hardly a defense of colonialism but rather a justification for socialist revolution to topple two very reactionary systems.
I'd add a few points for nuance:
-Shen Yun does not perform traditional Chinese dance. As a person with several family members who are in Chinese performance groups, our general take is that Shen Yun performs an odd fusion of ballet, acrobatics, and hanfu cosplay. The show is only able to sell this as "traditional" to audiences because they have absolutely no clue of what Chinese dance should look like. The dancers in Shen Yun literally wear pointe shoes and the singers are trained in bel canto. The whole thing is less Chinese than a soy sauce chicken mcnugget
-The Qing dynasty wasn't always anti-modernization. It really depended on which emperors and factions held power at the time. For example, under Kangxi and Qianlong (the greatest two Qing emperors), China did modernize its military in many ways. While these men were in power, the imperialists could only play nice. But when certain political factions like those under Cixi Empress ruled the country, the corruption and decline in quality of life really became a problem and the imperialists took advantage of that. Cixi also actively blocked attempts to modernize because she believed this would threaten her own faction's monopoly of power
-Mao wasn't the one who "agreed" to cooperate with Jiang, it was Jiang who had to agree after Mao kidnapped him in Xi'an and forced him to sign the agreement. I might have to verify this myself but I think Mao had come to the scientific marxist conclusion way earlier that only a united force could defeat Japanese imperialism
-China didn't really prosper before the century of humiliation either. That depended a lot on time and place, as different rulers produced an average of one famine every year and brutal genocides like the Dzungar genocide happened under the supposedly prosperous, good Qing dynasty rulers. And even before that, we're getting into centuries of empires versus warring states which I'm sure we all know about
-Dr. Sun Yat-sen's death in 1925 was so unfortunate for the stability of the nation. The video kind of jumps to when Jiang became the leader of the KMT, but a key factor was Dr. Sun's untimely death culminating in the right-wing faction of the KMT winning out. So incredibly sad and lots of us think things would have gone very differently if he did not die at that time
I'm intregued by the topics you are covering in your videos, but where are your sources? Please site them properly when making your videos.
Maurice Meisner “Mao’s China and After.”
@@redpen1917I appreciate anyone going in on the bullshit that is Shen Yun and Falon Gong, but dropping the name of a book does not a citation make :-/
@@redpen1917dude you need actual citation not just name of one book you used. also if that’s all the sourcing you did for this vid… you should strongly reconsider remaking this vid with more citation
@@redpen1917also some research on the Chinese pronunciation of these names would be nice.
@@redpen1917 There's a video on how to make a bibliography if you don't know how, actually a lot
Please consider making a video about Borders & Immigration from the viewpoint of Marxists..
Please make a video on Immigration from a communist viewpoint.
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Why i hate shen yun and it's tag line acting like China is a happy colorful land of kung fu and tea before Mao.
Viva china!
I am not a dengist but I find the history part of this video good.
great video and incredible story. china is the best ❤
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Please make a video on Migration and Borders from a Marxist perspective...
As far as I'm concerned the Chinese people are still in it
“It is widely believed that China's socialist economy had relatively high rates of extreme poverty while the capitalist reforms of the 1980s and 1990s delivered rapid progress. This narrative relies on World Bank estimates of the share of people living on less than $1.90 a day (2011 PPP), which show a sharp decline from 88 per cent in 1981 to zero by 2018. However, the World Bank’s poverty line has been critiqued for ignoring variations in the actual cost of meeting basic needs. In this paper we review data published by the OECD on the share of people unable to afford a subsistence basket. These estimates indicate that from 1981 to 1990, when most of China’s socialist provisioning systems were still in place, the country’s extreme poverty rate was on average only 5.6 per cent, substantially lower than in capitalist economies of comparable size and income at the time: 51 per cent in India, 36.5 per cent in Indonesia, and 29.5 per cent in Brazil. China's comparatively strong performance is corroborated by data on other social indicators. Moreover, extreme poverty in China increased during the capitalist reforms of the 1990s, reaching a peak of 68 per cent, as privatisation inflated the prices of essential goods and thus deflated the incomes of the working classes. These results indicate that socialist provisioning policies can be effective at preventing extreme poverty, while market reforms may threaten people's ability to meet basic needs.”
www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/13563467.2023.2217087?needAccess=true
So were ignoring how over time with these capitalist policies being the foundation for their modern wealth, their current, and shortly after your cited statistics date, level of poverty is much lower than during the Maoist period? It's just factually wrong to state that they had lower extreme poverty than they do now.
You can argue it's the remnant of their left leaning policies which lead to the distribution of said wealth contributing to the lower level of poverty, I wouldn't know enough to argue otherwise, but regardless the wealth came from their liberalization of economy.
If you think that life before those capitalist policies, were 'worse' for the average Chinese Citizen because of some discrepancy on the buying power of their currency in the domestic market, then stop dousing your self in A-historical weirdness.
And that paper you cited, which compared China's 'equivalently sized capitalist countries' such as... fucking Brazil? India? Indonesia? My nigga, if you are trying to establish the idea 'it's capitalism which causes large rates of extreme poverty and communism aklcutlally lowered it!!!' At least try not to make the single causation fallacy too apparent.
Beyond that, how can you trust the reported poverty rate of a totalitarian nation without any transparency or at the very least checks and balances, are they not incentivized to simply lie? They are known for lying about their GDP.
As per usual, the attempt to argue for why Maoist China is actually good for their citizens ends up being "b-b-b-ut capitalist country is worse because look at this totally real data and interpretation of their current geo-political stances (This video is so blatantly ignoring a million different things China does in foreign policy which is aggressive and expansionistic, not to mention their domestic shittery)!!!"
Mao was a dictator, he isn't some 'comrade' you people pathetically call each other, his policies killed millions, no amount of "but capitalist do this!" Will change that he's a monster and the fact the ideology surrounding him and the one you guys are so close to is what lead to exactly that outcome.
Ayeee
aww, no sources thats a shame
Litterally all just textbook historical moments. You have google if you're so distrusting, you can verify all historic events in 10 minutes if you're so inclined.
Holy propaganda batman
This got very propaganday towards the end. It's easier to maintain neutral during discussion of historical events, I suppose. But then... suddenly praising modern China for their commitment to peace, prosperity and neutrality? The same China that's providing tacit economic support and weapons manufacture for Russia right now? The China which has unilaterally declared that it owns the entire South China Sea? The China which is condemned by just about every human rights organisation in the world for their systematic repression of all political opposition? Which maintains the world's most elaborate system of internet censorship, forbidding access to non-Chinese news sources and heavily restricting the import of entertainment media?
Empires man, what can you do
And also failed industrialization leading to a famine with more dead than the entire population of Yugoslavia
@@northerncassowary8567 Tell me you're joking pls💀
Lmao it was propaganda from the start
@@CarltonSmith45 Well, being fair, China did get utterly fucked over by Europe and especially Britain in the 1800s. The opium wars are pretty much as described: Britain made a giant mountain of money selling opium to China knowing the devastating effect it had on the Chinese people, and when China tried to ban the drug started a war in the name of 'free trade.' But history isn't a satisfying story of heroes and villains: China has been the victim of plenty of atrocities, and has perpetuated plenty more themselves. They continue to do so today, so the sudden jump at the end to praising the modern government of China as some saintly avatars of peace on earth and goodwill to all men was a bit jarring. They remain one of the world's more authoritarian and repressive governments, and are quite open about their expansionist territorial ambitions.
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To be fair regular china is just as good at romanizing and "faking" its own history. With or without falun gong. Also I don't think that you can say Mao was good just because he was better than what came before.
Also what was that propaganda at the end my guy?
Every single country romanticizes it's own past, it's the nature of natural ethos. Perfect example is how the Thanksgiving story is taught in the US
@@chungus816 well yeah but I would differentiate the thanksgiving story from just building whole made up cities
Edit: For example look up the Mu Residence
@@Marzipan_Magnat We do the same shit with historical monuments here in Kazakhstan. Some nerds find proof of a structure existing, then they set out and build it exactly as described on paper or in legends about it.
@@Spaibo didn't know about that. Interesting. Very rare to talk to someone from Kazakhstan
@@Marzipan_Magnat Another good example of a similar thing being performed are the various ancient buildings in Rome. They were reconstructed multiple times over the years due to being in a state of severe disrepair.
The biggest perpetrator of the the South China Sea conflict, the Indo-China border conflicts, etc. cannot be awarded the title of being 'peaceful', especially not in the last 40 years, and it definitely cannot be called peace brokers when they're brokering for the sake of chinese influence and profitability rather than peace. On that note, could you tell us any one successful peace brokering China has done?
When you talk about the South China sea that's a narrative. But it's an easily verifiable fact that China hasn't dropped bombs at another country for the last 40 years. Fact trumps narratives right?
And if you want an example of China been peace broker, you need only search on youtube. You already have the keyword.
The biggest perpetrator of the SCS is the US egging its proxy (Philippines) on. Remember when the US sent politicians to Vietnam to try and get Vietnam over against China? Instead Vietnam said 🖕. Vietnam had their differences with China but Vietnam wasn't gonna join the problem makers, US in their road to war.
They are peaceful, deal with it, they brokered peace between Iran and Saudi-Arabia, you want to act like they are occupying countries when they are only taking control of inhabited islands SC sea, is a joke. "Broking for the sake of Chinese influence," it's because China grew economically strong that they brought the two rivals of Shia and Sunni to the negotiating table not the other way around, no one listens to weak nations without influence. China has been peaceful since 1989.
This channel is criminally underrated. Just became a patron, thanks for all you do comrade 🫡
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