Twitch Ambassador's Ego Initiates Their DOWNFALL
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- A vtuber and Twitch Ambassador named "EvilToaster" tried to take ownership of Twitch's new "Knock" feature. But this would end very poorly for them.
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Someone given power turns out to be a POS. How original.
Seriously, the script writers this year must be running out of steam.
Power reveals
He seems to be an extremely lonely terminally online weirdo, he should get off the internet and get out in the world. But it most likely won’t help, I actually feel kind of sorry for them, when you’re a weirdo there’s absolutely no hope for you in life, they simply can’t stop being weird.
He doesn't call himself " GoodToaster" for a reason and almost certainly started associating with Zen because everyone calls her a Toaster and she has more followers than he does. That's why his first reaction to getting backlash from this was to immediately tag her going " Zen save me" Completely ignorant she hates this " Feature" too
AI gonna replace them 😂@@lord_boneman
1. Creep is happy Twitch enables creepiness.
2. Creep gets angry when people say he's creepy.
The overuse of buzzwords. 😁
Im surprised he is ambassador...😅😅
@@worldhello1234 tbh he's legitimately creepy. Bro's desperate for his "hug"
@@zhuljojogiven other ambassadors they've had like deer girl. I'm not.
@@worldhello1234 this guys is the definition of creep dawg.
Wanna reveal a person's true character? Give them a position of power, and observe how they use it.
To be fair, when you see pronouns and non-binary genderfluid in their bio, you'll already know this person should not be let anywhere near a position of power.
That's why i don'r want power.
I know what i'd do with it, and i don't want to do that to others.
I just want to live in peace.
* proceeds to instantly relinquish power to someone else *
lazy gaming
@@EeveeRealSenpai Wholesome lazymaxxing.
Counter point, only a certain type of person seeks out positions of power
This guy comes off as a frustrated male feminists who was lied to about how to get women and is now very angry. I bet no one around him told him to work out. Instead he doubled down and now projects this upon a whole website. Fatherless behavior.
Fatherless, maidenless, broless, friendless, brainless, maxx Ls catching slimeball that Toaster person(?) is.
Also, a professional expert in the art of victimhood.
Guys seems like a POS but he used to stream overwatch with a cam. He looked to be in decent shape. Pretty average looking dude. I guess it doesnt always buy you self confidence.
its his own fault for not being born attractive
>guy pesters women
>pesters Twitch to make pestering women easier
>Twitch Ambassador of pestering feature
guys I see some connection here
*Hubris Arrogance is the downfall of Empires. Didn’t this guy pay attention in class?*
not paying attention is what got them into this mess
@@kamo7293 Yes 👏
@@kamo7293I know, right.
I think he paid attention and intentionally took the wrong lessons from them. 😅
who's Hubris Arrogance? /jk
Twitch user with power
Mistreats women
Uses power to do other bad things
A pattern that is seen often
"EvilToaster" - living up to his name.
If saying hello is mistreating women then I'm sorry the world has hurt you
mistreats women that is a very good trait
So it sounds like they don't like the idea of asking consent first?
@@WayStedYou I bet their hard drive leaves much to speculate.
“Twitch Ambassador”… so he’s actively trying to make Twitch even worse?
Well he didn't code it. So the fault is twitch.
@@batboy555 No, but by his own admission, he pushed for it. So the fault lies at least partly with him.
@@dreymak4071 no doubt. But tell people no.
@@batboy555 But he's actively advertising, simping for it, and directly taking credit for it. Then he goes on and on insulting people who spoke out about this being a horrible feature. Then he goes on to pull the classic victim card about his "mental state" or whatever.
@Gibby34340 Oh, this man is nuts.
"I don't get messaged and everyone *pretends* to be busy, so I designed a feature to annoy people Online on Twitch." What a selfish prick.
When even Zentreya, who has an emote about her called "OhGodItsZentreyaRunningThroughTwitchDotTVTakeCoverAsShehasCollabIntentions", thinks it's a bad idea. You should realise that it's a terrible idea.
Please tell me that's a real emote and people have to type that every time they want to use it.
@@amandap7733 yeah its a real emote lol
He called her as soon as it was implemented on stream and she was like this is terrible I'm never having this happen
Also he got mad and shit because she said it was bad. And she hung up on him
@@kylesauter4519 ? I rmbr him telling zen about it and had her surprised but i don't recall she hung up on him? Are u sure? Its her stream like a week ago right, can you give timestamp?
EvilToaster’s so creepy. He’s so much like Chris Chan, especially with him ruminating about how he could be more intimate with women if he was one too. He’s the perfect picture of the “male feminist”.
I left a comment above about how it's likely he only says he's trans for that exact purpose.. The dude's a pervert, nothing more nothing less.
The guy pretending to be gay to get invited to the girls sleepover.
Was thinking the exact same thing. Are we certain this isn't Chris on a different grind after never getting donations for him and Barb from "fans"?
Many predators use camouflage in order to hunt
Yeah I could be more intimate with women if I was one too. I am not one though. So respecting boundries is something you learn in preschool...I guess he was homeschooled.
The next thing he'll probably say "I have an *insert illness here* , so im going to take a break from streaming" or something along those lines
That's the trend.
*Insert illness* or *past trauma* (that are usually fake) > *plays victim and blame his actions on said things* > *takes a break in hope everyone forgets*.
@@WhatssupYoo That's exactly what trickywi did when she wanted Trump to die and got backlash.
Well he already has adhd and autism in the twitter bio so he'll probably just go with that. There's a reason people always reference the "I'm neurodivergent and a minor" excuse that these terminally online crybullies seem to always use.
@@amandap7733Was looking for this comment. As someone who is also ADHD and is suspected to be on the spectrum (still waiting for the final diagnosis), I am hoping that he doesn't pull that card. Yes, those things make life more difficult in specific ways, but it's no excuse for doing terrible things.
@@amandap7733 Ah, I wondered if diagnosing his peers with autism was projection.
Him tagging zen as backup on the feature thing makes it a lot more legitimate that people were afraid to speak out about his other behavior. He’s definitely the kind of person to get his bigger streamer friends to attack people who would stand up to his behavior.
What is funny is that it backfired since zen spoke against the feature lol
@@mrbimbim9459 Exactly, he should know Zen has no problem saying what she thinks of things
@@mrbimbim9459 the toaster got outsmarted by a busty vtuber.
Zentreya should disavow him.
@@merafirewing6591 Fake toaster got btfo by real toaster.
For boys confused by "girlies" cuddling and snuggling..
When we're really good friends and we love each other, set up boundaries (ask if everyones ok with cuddles, hugs, kissing etc) on a FAMILIAL level, We will actively do this due to: Being amazing friends and having set up those previous boundaries.
This guy doesn't seem to get you need to be GREAT friends to even get a "girlie" to hold hands with you, even when you're a girl.
Some girls don't like hugs. Some girls just are ok with headpats or hugs, some girls are SUPER snuggly.
You can't just impose ALL GIRLS MUST SNUGGLE WITH ME on your "not-even-friends Girl" you know, Wtf.
No asking what their boundary is? No asking if they LIKE hugs?
He doesn't care, this isn't an Autism thing. This is a "I WANT TO BE TOUCHED BY GIRL" thing.
the Audacity.
As a guy, I think this is pretty obvious, most normal people in general are less likely to get physical interaction when they barely know each other, I wouldn't wanna be hugged by some random person, man or woman, if I didn't know them, it would either be pretty awkward or even scary
EXACTLY. As a woman who’s had majority female friends my entire life, I’ve never cuddled with any of them, not even once! That’s because I don’t want to “cuddle” with people who aren’t my family, period.
It’s just a human thing in general: Different people simply have different boundaries. You can’t expect all girls to be okay with that right away, or even at all.
As far as I understand, high functioning autism means you can't understand the situation immediately and are slow on certain things, which makes you awkward at social interactions. Doesn't mean you don't understand what basic boundaries are though. Hell, I would argue most autistic people have thicker boundaries than normal people. I don't believe for a second this dude is autistic.
@@RKNancy"high functioning" literally just means "not obvious from the outside". For real, that's what it means.
Describing what autism is actually like is much more complicated and doesn't fit in a comment, but issues understanding the personal boundaries implied by societal norms or your relationship are pretty common for autists, especially autistic children.
The cases in the document are not that though. They're explicitly spelled out boundaries that he then *chose* to ignore despite knowing them. That's not autistic behavior, that's just him being a bad person.
Also, especially when you girlies are straight: You cuddling with other girls is meant on a friendship mutual base. It has NOTHING sexual. You cuddle with them exactly because you know that it's only cuddling and not more. And even if one of the girls or both are also into girls, from what I've seen by witnessing them - they as you said also set boundaries, and it's an agreement among both that it stays that way and doesn't get more intimate.
"You're just afraid of talking to people"
*requires a platform feature to coerce people to interact with him*
-Not a really good feature
-Should be easy to set on/off and that setting should STAY what we set
-Should be off by default
Exactly, if this were the case, and Twitch just made a post or announcement of this feature, nobody would be saying anything other than "Ehhh...I might use it, probably not..but whatever, it's there if I choose."
Yea, you wanna see how popular a feature is. Then start it off by default and see how many are using it after a while.
Someone created a tutorial to manually turn it off. If turning it off requires a tutorial, it's not a feature.
Everything should be opt in
It should be set to favourites by default
They want the feature to be on, and that would be the best way
I'm going to be real. If you guys have a friend who says sh-t like "I'm going to this in my folder of you" all because of a video game, get outta there man. Run.
Yup, that's not a red flag that's red ad board that you can see from space.
Yea, thats and instant block and ignore kinda thing to see.
The cause doesnt even matter, the fact they have a folder in the first place is enough already.
Yep, it's a whole new level of schizo
I've had someone from 4chan use that as a threat against me.
"knock knock whos there unwanted feature" fucking love lily man
Same girl is indie vtubings guardian angel and she is gonna make kicking idiots balls funny one way or another!
lily is probably the only vtuber i like ngl
@@war_fishfor me its shigure ui. Only vtuber i watch.
@@war_fishLily and the small group of girls around her are kinda like old VShoujo but they also are kind to their viewers. i.e. Bao the Whale etc.
It helps that they interact with Filian a lot, who's also unhinged in a funny way.
Lily is great.
Me before the video: "Toaster in the drama? Toaster seemed quite chill, how could...?"
> Lack of boundary understanding
Me: "Oh..."
> Being a creep
Me: "..."
> Supporting hate speech towards anyone who played Hogwarts Legacy
Me: "Okay, I hope to never see you again on any streamer's stream i know ever again"
> Probably faking gender dysphoria just because they wanted to get closer to women after being rejected so many times
Me: "..."
But in all seriousness, this is sick (in a bad way). An I hope they will lose position at Twitch hierarchy forever. But considering it's Twitch, they'll just keep this deviant around.
You think such people lose position in twitch? They are the people twitch is looking for, mentally ill people who will do anything for that amazon company as long as they are allowed to harass people
So wait, he brigaded against Wizard game, but he's close friends with Zentreya of VShoujo. The same Vshoujo that now houses Henya, aka Pikamee? One of the victims of the "Wizard Game Incident"?
Something doesn't add up here.
I mean, could be part of the reason Zen blocked him now.
Probably why Toaster isn't around whenever Zen played with Pika.
I'm going with "Zen never knew that"...
And given how much we've all seen Zen doting on Henya?? I'm also going with "Zen has now blocked him so she's not tempted to STRANGLE him for what he did to her friend"!
Is this why Zen didn't steam today?
@Heracullum most likely. She got her ass beat in Mario kart with ari, haruka, heavenly, grape and ray and Tina. She just needed time with her friends
as a person with adhd.. I dont like when they put adhd in their bio it isn't a flex.
I feel like it’s more of an informational “heads up” but fair
I've put it in my Twitter bio that I'm neurodivergent, so it's why I might say stupid shit sometimes as the brain filter failed. Not an excuse, but explanation to why I'm an idiot at times. I don't think that's a flex.
@@VampyrMygg You fucked it up the moment you said 'Neurodivergent'. That word is SO FAKE even google's spell-check flags it. Just say Autistic/ADHD if you really can't resist. We fellow autists will thank you.
its not even meant as a flex.... its meant to garner internet sadness points....
@@rogerelzenga4465 that just means the person is crazy and should be ignored
First a deer, now a frog.
When is Twitch gonna learn that the animal people don't make good community managers?
I completely forgot about that deer. Did that thing get fired by the way? or is it still there?
Which one is the deer again?
A furry on a power trip@@GlassesnMouthplates
Why did they have to misuse the frog people like that I mean frogs I mean frogs don’t deserve that.
@@eror404acountnotfound9They wanted to know their name.
as someone with a DIAGNOSED autism (and not just "Identifying" as autistic, dam I hate this notion)...
Why do weirdo online keep trying to pass their weirdness and undesireable behavior with autism, and keep on trying to tell everyone that they are too FFS
Autism isn't a quirk, stop this shit
because theyre have no worth and only thing what give them anything is being "SpEciAl" and a "ViCtiM"
People fail to realize that blaming your horrible actions on a disorder keeps the rest of us from being accepted as a functional person. not everyone with a disorder has to be labeled a dumpster fire of human waste just cause you can't own up to your issues, it makes me and everyone else look bad
A lot of the rainbow mafia think Autism and things like it are a badge of honor rather than something people live and struggle with.
They love their labels.
It reads like he has a tism fetish and without evidence of a real doctor's diagnosis I believe he is self diagnosed which ties into his obsession/fetish with mental health conditions especially when referring to online autism tests as the hot test! Really weird.
It is sad! People think it gives them some kind of privilege or that it's trendy to "be on the spectrum"... I find that so disturbing.
"You refuse to engage in it because you're terrified of ppl"
Say the word! Projection!
Eviltoaster's got that male feminist energy.
"I am sooooo nice to the girlie's- why won't they DM me or have sex with me" - says Toaster LOL
EvilToaster and Warhammer dwarves have one big thing in common: The Book of Grudges.
Ohho, that's going in the folder.
You mean the book, right?
At least the dwarves have reasons behind their grudges
@@WayStedYou better reasons, at least.
@@Sabotoge THATS GOING IN THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING BOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!
Dude could have just said: "I suggested this feature, I don't think it was implemented correctly. Features like this should always be opt-in, not opt-out. I will do what I can to talk with twitch and get them to fix this."
Instead he took criticism personally, had an ego trip, and this had been a trend for him that has now been put out into the open because he wanted attention and got it.
That was what I said. Then I saw him trying to convince people it was a good thing as it was on top of his own initial posts. Taking everything else into account though, just seems par for the course
I had the idea that it was a good idea, that had been understood poorly or some other tech meddled with it, but sad to see that it was exactly as intended, considering he tried to defend it
Or even a "I thought it was good as-is but I see the community as a whole dislikes it, I will discuss with Twitch possible changes for a better user experience "
Twitch should rebrand and actually be runned by people who actually care
Agree 100%
It's not gonna happen because places like Twitch want managers and businessmen, not people who actually care.
That’s the problem, the people running Twitch will not let go of the site because of several reasons, Twitch thots and their simps, monopolistic egos and the likes. Money talks, they can’t understand it.
Being run by people instead of bots would be a good start.
So like from justin tv to twitch tv
The fact that this creep doesn't understand nor respect boundries, tells you everything you need to know about the rationale behind the Twitch feature
"Crazy thing is I still don't get dm'd ever even with a green light and putting "plz dm me" in my status"
Haha... I wonder why, how strange right
#1 way to out yourself as a creeper; complain you can't message female vtubers on discord because they leave themselves in offline mode and don't DM you.
As if female Vtubers already don't have to deal with creeper weirdos already.
how could someone be _that_ clueless, damn
This person chose the worst community to find extroverts.
@@EeveeRealSenpai more like shameless.
The dude really thinks he's a main character from a harem anime. Him thinking he should be given opportunity to bond with female vtubers offline and be surrounded by vtuber girls not because he genuinely values them as people but he's just in it to satisfy his sexual desires. He's a creep.
"-you refuse to engange in it because you're terrified of ppl"
Uh, okay, so why would you ever *force* people to go through that? Going "you scared?" and doing it anyways is like top tier dummy behavior imo, especially when it's something that seems genuinely bothersome. If I don't like solicitors, why would I like them online?
Also goddang, my guy really needs to go out more. A lot of this is just... sad.
Whenever you play a multiplayer game there are always from time to time people showing up asking in chat "can I join your game" and I find them really annoying. This feature just enables them further
Hi, we’re trying to contact you about your car’s extended warranty
Or in this case
Hi, I’m an annoying twat trying to use you to get a leg up in my career
he is definitely the type that invades your personal space. really give me the icky
Wouldn't shock me if we found out he hacks people's twitch accounts (or other social media) to read their private messages..
"Not one of the girlie's" my brother, you can be friends with girls without lusting after each of them.
Not to people like this, his brain has been so fried goon material that he can't fathom such a thing
He can’t apparently. He wants to “one of the girlies” so he can prey on them while being a 30 something year old man.
If you are a-sexual, a girl itself, a deviant, you are in the friendzone, a gay guy or they are really ugly, probably. Every rule has an exception.
That must be an entirely foreign concept for the guy
It's like he thinks that's all they do...
Trying to convince someone to cheat on their significant other is something only betas do. And male feminists, but hey, they're the same thing, right?
I'm shocked. The 30 year old man who is a vtuber, that talks and acts like a teenage girl, hangs out with 90% women, and "came out" as non-binary is a creep. So shocked
He really is the rule, and not the exception, to male LGB-etc./male "allies" they are doing and saying whatever they have to to lower the guard of women that they are targetting to encroach upon their female-only spaces. I would say he gives these groups a bad name, but he's the norm and not the outlier in my experience.
@@teecakes Almost like society shunned those types for a reason.
That toaster guy's a sociopath. He ought to be locked up before he hurts some poor woman
Too late, he already condoned harassment against Pikamee, whom is now known as Henya.
Redflags in his profile:
- "Has" mental disorders, being ofc adhd and the tism
- Is insecure about his sex, totally didn't see that coming
- Has been on twitter/ x for *13 years*
I mean so have I, but I have made like 10 tweets/retweets in that time. He's been living on twitter for all that time is the problem. The brainrot he's gotten is immense.
@@GLUFSAREN13 years on twitter alone is not the issue. Beein 13 years on sm since your mid teens while being in left spaces is the issue. They started the "i have x therefore not my fault" mindset
the biggest preachers, are the biggest sinners.
Agree 100%
Observable fact: Becoming a male feminist unlocks latent mental illness.
Hell it's literally in the bible Matthew 6:5-8
Virtue signaling
@@yozen1995looked it up
Yep. Down to a T.
i absolutely hate when people with mental illness use it as an excuse to be a POS, instead of something to overcome and be a better person IN SPITE of their hardships.
i hate that so many people pretend to have those issues so they can use it as an excuse or to be cool do to that weird trend of people thinking its awesome to have mental issues, ima be honest i run into more people pretending to have a mental illness and use it as an excuse then people who actual have one and use it as an excuse
Too many claiming to have this or that for clout without being diagnosed
@@reddragon9064 Does this surprise you? Anything to fit in and be treated like the cool kid.
@@dreymak4071 well I have my own mental issues and growing up it was never “cool” still isn’t so I don’t understand how the trend started past people realizing serious illness give people benefits depending on where you live to try (and a lot of times fail) to off set the downsides of said illness
But I do get your point
@@reddragon9064 Honestly, I think that's all it is.. people benefit from it, so they abuse it..
Wonder what Zen thinks about him having Pikamee in a “folder”
Creating a folder about people is serial killer behavior. Writing down their personal injustices to you so you never forget and don't forgive for what? To remember why you need to take vengeance on them? To justify something evil you plan to do?
I think Toaster unironically thinks he's batman. Not knocking batsy; that guy has to keep tabs on godlike entities, but both are basement dwellers with folders on their friends.
Not surprised tbh, a good person being a twitch ambassador? Impossible.
still remember that deer person, with a power trip
With Twitch’s track record with its past shenanigans, it was only a matter of time before another controversy arises.
some normal human will be good. and i dont even will say iam a good human but still better by not forcing anything on anyone XD
Bad people represent twitch better
I think CohhCarnage is/was a twitch ambassador. No idea if he is anymore. Never even heard of this guy. Weird that they'd make a feature suggested by this guy but not the many features and Cohh has talked about and suggested. Cohh is one of the few people who are actually good to have as an ambassador.
He has "pls dm to clear anything" as his discord status, so he definitely doesnt want to go public with it lol
why dont we force him to go public, just like he did with millions of us. it would be poetic and would definitely get him to reconsider his behaviour
I've seen angry people, abusive people, manipulative people get called out but this Toaster guy is just straight up sad.
I mean, he's all of the above really.
@@dreymak4071 Yeah I was gonna say that too. He's 100% all of that which is the sad part.
This dude plays with VShojo girls so often, let that sink in, crazy how this dude dug his grave because he didn't want to accept that the idea was awful and ended up getting his digital footprint exposed lol
Nobody wanted to talk to him and he made it everyone’s problem. Massive Eric Cartman energy.
Weirdo with boundary issues aside, this feature would be fine if they put just a little bit of thought into it before rolling it out. To list off some of the most obvious things:
-Opt in only
-Allow streamers to make allow lists
-Give streamers a check box to quickly and easily turn the feature on and off
Now, all these things work off the concept of requiring consent, which it seams Mr. Frog isn't a huge fan of.
Zentreya didn’t break EvilToaster’s computer enough.
"Streamers can now collaborate with other Twitch Streamers who are live without any advanced setup or planning." That reads exactly how someone would express the set back of a feature if they're reviewing something. That's a con, not a pro.
Ryuko avatar. Checks out. (and yes I agree)
Imagine you have important meeting on your place and somebody uninvited start to banging and screaming on your door non stop.
"Hmm, I have all these friends on Twitch that are online, but they never seem to want to do collabs with me. I know, I'll personally implement a feature that will allow me to pester my friends so they HAVE to collaborate with me. I'm a genius."
There is affection for friends. This guy wants a harem
By force, that is. The booty warrior of twitch ambassadors.
I think he has a rape fetish and is just BARELY self-aware enough to outfight admitting it is a bad idea.
He isnt one of the gal'pals...
Chrischan detected
OMG YOU'RE RIGHT!
@@RikkiSan1 He is indeed spreading to more people.
SCP - Chrischan must be contained
@@mr.pollito6303 I'm gonna write that, SCP-_____ "Pervert Virus"
The Sonichu amulet has found a successor.
He just wants boyfriend-free girls to hang out with.
Average terminally online user: *suggests thing in a throwaway comment*
Company: *adds thing after thousands of people begged them for it*
Average terminally online user: I did this. Me. No one else. Not you. Me.
Except many people didn't want this, might just be that this EvilToaster toadie has a lot of sway with the higher ups at twitch..
@@dreymak4071 It's been known that execs have no idea with what's happening at the lower levels.
@@oompalumpus699 Someone has to have greenlit this, and I doubt it was Toaster here.
Point is, whether intentional or not, SOMEONE isn't doing their job and needs to be held accountable for it.
Holy shit thats psychotic. How can you say you have "friends" when all you do actively record anything that you can use against them for being heckin problematic? This guy needs to leave the internet forever.
He's ON the internet, precisely BECAUSE of what he is... That is the nature of the internet, it's the asylum for all the rejects of the world... They can't make friends IRL, so they get their social fix via online interactions, that is what being "terminally online" means. :P
This has always been what the internet is, and it will always be what the internet is! xD
And especially over the critically acclaimed and wonderful funny wizard game. That gets you put in a folder? For playing the wizard game?
His obsession with touching people really creeps me out. If someone I knew talked like this, they'd be black listed immediately.
Notice than in their Twitter bio says autistic/ADHD, but, as someone who is on the spectrum, I don't think that is a valid excuse to avoid criticism.
When I reveal this to people, I am not asking to be treated special.
I only ask for a little more patience and understanding.
we are different for sure, but we are still human.
oh it isn't at all, in some ways I may feel a small bit of sympathy/empathy for someone who just doesn't properly understand certain social situations I know I've been there more generally speaking, but It certainly doesn't excuse them of it, especially as such a long running repeated thing.
i see a lot autistic people None of them are as creepy as that guy
@@TheHammerGuy94 yeah but people who are patient and understanding will still be what they already are, while people who are not isn't going to change because of a word in someones bio. Toxic people will be toxic regardless
its more like painting a target on your back
You mean to tell me a Twitch Ambassador isn’t a good person? OF ALL PEOPLE?! 😱😱😱😱😱
"autistic, adhd , non-binary , genderfluid"
WHO could have guessed?
its litteraly the "the stand user could be anyone" meme but with crazy brainwashed terminally online kids
Genuine question: Is there a Twitch Ambassador that is an actual good person?
I haven't been following Twitch that much, but whenever I hear Twitch Ambassador it's usually followed by the revelation that the person in question is awful.
@MrNorker77 i think cohhcarnage is an ambassador and he's really nice, no controversies that I'm aware of with him
NOWAYING
@@yepyep2762 I know, didn't know he was an ambassador. Well, that means there is at least one good egg. There is hope yet.
When adding a feature you need to think in terms of worse damage and evil, because if evil can be done with it, it will be done with it.
From what it sounded like, you can set a list of specific people allowed to request a collab. If you can just say "Only my closest friends" then it really isn't such a big deal.
@@OtakuWrath Only if thats teh defult. The whole thing should be off by default or require you to add people to the accept list in order to work. Being, not that bad if you jump through all these extra steps is not ok.
@@OtakuWrath You should have to opt in, but no, people need to opt out.. that's the problem..
@Agile2013
@@OtakuWrath so why not let anyone opt out of it??? it really isn't such a big deal
"non-binary/genderfluid"
All comments and opinions disregarded.
It's always crazy to see how far bullies can get before they get called out.
the tagging of a "friend" in a post about drama is sort of scummy in and of itself, if you're in drama you don't go "oh hay well known friend of mine, come here and back me up, I need help for this mess I've made."
You just deal with the mess end of.
Only time I can see people reasonably roping friends in is if they're truly being maliciously targeted and they have no other avenues (but that's clearly not what's happening here.)
@@dreymak4071 If this were me, I'd not drag them in publicly, I'd talk to them privately and ask for help in dealing with it.
This really has become the generation of narcissism. Everybody is the most important person, and nobody wants to admit their mistakes…. 🤦♂️
The biggest flex and most attractive thing you can do to women these days is just to be honest and admit to your mistakes freely.
@@emailsucks28 What if you didn't do it but are accused anyway?
This pathological need for attention is indeed quite troublesome.
"pls dm me" Desperate much? Gross.
Yup.....
As someone who gets lonely, I would never. He seems more like a predator creeper.
@@OkamiToge Yea, he wants the excuse that, "well you DMed me first".
@@OkamiToge I get lonely from time to time, I get it, but this is WAY too forward and obviously desperate, and even as a guy I'm just "Ick"..
I remember my professor told me that you can be as much of an a-hole as you want if you're useful enough. That's what Toast is to his "friends". If his connections start to distance themself from him, no one will have a reason to keep him around.
Zen literally will zone out and ignore Toaster during their collabs. Dude will drone on forever about stuff and not even realize people are ignoring him. So weird. Guy is in his own world.
Toaster sounds like a guy who feels alone even with friends, and is trying to force people into identifying with him! As if he can't find "his people," so he's trying to convince others they're "his people" so he can feel included! He needs therapy!
He's a forever alone with major mental problems probably never socially matured. People you interact with probably turn the other way and run his whole life. And he doesn't have the sense or intelligence to realize it might be him....
This is what long-term long loneliness starts to do to your psyche. Ask me how I know. However, its important to make a distinction, while his feelings hes expressing are valid (Literally ive said word for word similar things when trying to sort out or explain my feelings.) The red flags, are the intermingling of flirting and overall sexual nature. Coupled with his 'no compromise' style of activism and inability to handle criticism and his total disregard for others relationships/boundaries/feelings. Thats what separates a person suffering from loneliness, and someone whos potentially dangerous. Like, I dont blame anyone for my loneliness, I drew a bad hand, it is what it is. And i have friends, but that isnt the same, where as everyone else at the end of the day have someone to go home to, I dont. If i come home late or not at all, no ones gonna care or be worried. And that just sucks, and that feeling, when its constant, can have HUGE impacts on a person not just mentally. But it also makes you super aware of others feelings and kinda allows you to be a much more understanding person. Because I wanna be loved not feared, but if you dont care about that, thats where the manipulation, inflated ego, and entitlement fester. I will only ever be a danger to myself, hes a danger to himself and others.
To the asylum he goes.
They need to find an actual real-life girlfriend, as long as they're capable of treating her with respect. But I fear that they aren't. They need to learn that you can't hamfist your way into a relationship first.
@@RokuroCarisu Its not that simple. you can be respectful and funny and kind as can be, so much of a great guy infact that its wont be great enough. And whiled that never gets better, its not some thing to get angry over. Sure you can be upset or disappointed just dont push that onto the other person.
As someone who has Asperger's syndrome (a form of Autisum), I find this pile of crap very insulting and he should be banned from everything for using as an excuse to get what he wants!
Also someone with Asperger's Syndrome. We don't claim him.
As someone with aspergers myself, I second this. It's beyond insulting.
sorry to tell you this but assburgers is not a term used anymore since long ago.
@@dreymak4071 Third. Dude ain't autistic, he's a narcissist looking for excuses for why people don't like him as much as he thinks they should like him.
@dreymak4071 as someone with both asperger's and adhd, I find him very annoying and insulting
This guy condoned hogwarts legacy stuff? Shocker.
I wonder how Zen felt since she's pretty close with Henya
@@GrayD_Fox I feel for Zen if they're upset over this. Knowing your friend is a massive pile of trash hurts
@@GrayD_Fox And as far as I am aware there wasn't anything bad between Zen and SIlvervale who was also a victim of that. They maybe aren't great friends but still another rather close acquaintance.
If after all this, Zen doesn't block & ignore this guy, I will have lost all faith in her..
@@dreymak4071 Apparently already happened. Taking a day or two off streaming to sort herself out (perhaps not over this, vagueposting) and unfollowed the guy.
I'm a woman who's had people push past my boundaries a lot in the past, and just reading the way he talked to those girls was setting off my fight or flight. some of the things he said sound like pre-incel stuff (especially "oh you let WOMEN do this stuff with you but not me, even though I'm nice")
he literally identifies as a t-woman so that he can gain access to female-only spaces. He is the very person JK Rowling warned women about-- is it any wonder he was boycotting Hogwartz Legacy??
Toaster’s disposition reminds me of someone I used to be friends with. He was narcissistic, manipulative, and an absolute creep when talking to women. He would even flirt with other people’s girlfriends (including those within in his own friend group), and when the girls would not reciprocate would always play the whole “woe is me” act or just straight up encourage infidelity. Dude did not understand the concept of boundaries at all. He was always saying inappropriate things to people to humiliate them, and every little mistake you made was always being monitored so he could use it in the future as black mail… just in case. The type of guy that probably “keeps a folder”. It got to the point where I felt I could just never be myself around him because he was always scheming. He always had an agenda. He couldn’t just be chill, normal person. Needless to say, every last one of his friends abandoned him.
To make it short, collaboration is supposed to be planned by two parties. This is not supposed to be instantaneous. Streamers priorize privacy. Kind of brain dead to force this shit.
Yeah, it's so stupid, like , imagine you're playing Dark Souls and someone knocks and wants to play Apex with you and you are like "no? I wanna beat the boss". Or any other kind of thing where the streamer who gets invaded has planned something. Seriously, the only way I've ever seen this kind of spontaneously collabing work is, when the streamter did a special stream (birthday stream) and was like, "hey, these are games I like, come whenever I am currently in-between games and we play some rounds together". In other words, it only works, if it's disabled by default but allowed by the target during a certain stream.
And if you're one of the people who's close enough to just pull up and jump into a collab with a streamer on short notice (like we see very often amongst friends)?? YOU ALREADY HAVE THE MEANS TO DO THIS.
Wannabe vtuber takes credit for feature implementation which allows them to harass larger creators for an audience boost.. It's very on the nose.
He jumped into the Vtuber trend, because he wasn't popular at all streaming with webcam. Not surprising that a couple of hundred of viewers made him like that.
Can they even be considered a vtuber? It's just an extremely low effort pic of a frog.
@@OkamiToge What's funny is that it isn't even original. That frog used to be an emote like those low effort scuffed versions of Pepe the frog.
I literally want a blacklist made from the people who are spamming this feature.
@@silvertaken Yeah, this guy sounds like the kind of person to go to extreme lengths to seem cool in the eyes of people around him. I'd bet the trans thing is also fake in this regard.
As a big fan of Zentreya, I'm surprised to see this of Evil Toaster...Then again I didn't do any digging into him beyond when he collabed with Zen and friends.
Me too, Zentreya may have never experienced this side of Toaster. Toaster could never push Zen in same ways I think, because she is even more connected sosialy on Twtich. She is friends/friendly with a lot big and small live streamers on Twtich RUclips and Twitter/X. She is a veteran Vshojo member a small, but strong company, she's a very mature adult with a strong sense of self.
I must admit I did feel something off with Toaster, but I just thought it was my own bias against labels and unprofessional diagnosis and differences in politics. So I looked past it because I really enjoy and love Zentreya, and because everyone deserves chances to be liked.
I apologize for this long rant
All I knew of Toaster was that he played Apex with Zen and helped her with tech issues sometimes. Seemed like one of those guys that everyone likes to have around.
@@Lark88 indeed
@@martingundersen6164 100% agree on Zen probably knowing nothing of this behavior. After all, why would he show that side of him to the one streamer he needs to act the way he does? To Zen, he was probably just another person to be friends with, it's just in her DNA to want to be friends and cordial with everybody and anybody. Toaster took advantage of this and hung this over smaller Vtubers to emotionally manipulate them into talking to him in exchange for an "in" with Zen. For Zen to outright unfollow him on Twitter and make him persona non grata speaks volumes. It's a shame a lot of folks are going to try to claim Zen and other big names he collab'ed with were "hiding" this behavior, but it's the antithesis of Zen's normal transparency and concern for hurting folks, even indirectly.
@@deityzero Oh really Zen unfollowed him already, I didn't know that. I don't use twitter it ruins my mood. But happy to hear it and good for her, Zentreya deserves better.
Never trust any Twitter user with any of these things...
1. A profile flag
2. Pronouns beside Male or Female
3. States their a "Good person"
4. Preaches "Ethics"...
The irony of an unhinged loner having Shinji in his banner.
I don’t think I’ve seen a downfall come this fast and from something so random. Hearing a 57 page doc was made a day after a Twitch feature of all things feels like absurdist comedy.
Also, I hope Zen’s doing alright. While she hasn’t said why she’s been having a rough time, I think we can make a decent deduction given how much she and Toaster collab.
6:27 WAIT THAT’S ME
Yeah hope she’s okay but just gotta give her some time the Geckos will be there when she needs them
I think zen’s rough time is more related to her family pets passing a few weeks ago and this may be adding on top of it. Either way, I also hope she is ok
Same.
I think that vshojo's lawyers and employee can deal with it. If they figured out situations of Michi and Matara, this could be not as scary as may seem to be.
I hadn't heard of this guy until this situation so learning he's somehow latched on to a bunch of people I have heard of is interesting
This person reminds me of the "Incel to Trans Pipeline" video by ceicocat.
I mean the man laid it out in plain words, "I want to touch women, women do not want me to touch them, women touch each other, if I was a woman then the other women would let me touch them...and more"
Its not just the incel to trans pipeline, its the incel to trans sex offender pipeline
Yeah really massive "nice guy " energy.
Real
Broo.... so true.
I was an incel once, and when I wasn't getting girls I just said "Fuck it, i'll try dating guys" and now I'm happily Bi
Ah, so he condoned the harassment campaigns surrounding Hogwards Legacy, huh?
So he condones Pikamee and Silvervale being harassed.
How would Zen, who he considers to be close to, react to this knowledge?
Well she unfollowed him so safe to say he ain’t getting another collab lol
Well, she did unfollow him for one thing. Seeing as this comes after Zen stepping back for a bit to deal with some family-related stuff, she didn't need this shit to deal with right now either.
Unfollowing him, and fighting off the urge to strangle him for hurting her REAL friends, I suspect?
This guy seems like the embodiment of the "Where's my hug?" meme..
11:30 In the business, he's what's known as a "sexpest"
Whenever I feel like I'm bad at socialising, I remember people like this exist who unironically want to automate vtuber collabs and I feel a lot better about myself.
We're feeling better about ourselves with this one bros!
Is everything OK?
It sucks cause zen tweeted last night saying how she was filled up with emotion from the document that came out and is taking some time off, which I don't blame her for doing so.
Hope she’s ok
I believe the time off is more related to her family pets passing away recently but this event also be contributing to it to as she unfollowed him.
@mrbimbim9459 I guess it was the breaking point for her and it sucks because she is someone who wants to make people laugh and smile
I would hope she distance herself from him, given he is one of the lunatics who harassed people like Zen’s current and former Vshojo mates for playing Hogwarts Legacy.
@@stephenenns1386 wait really?
Reminder that power doesn't make you evil, it just shows everyone who you really are.
It doesn't create, it amplifies.
You know how being sexist and racist is bad? What's the equivalent of that when someone thinks they can just label someone as having a mental limitation?
This person isn't just a creep; they're actually dangerous with the power that they hold. I do hope Twitch gets wind of this and fires or revokes (or whatever) this person from their position.
The word you're looking for in that first paragraph is ableist.
Never heard the term either until I joined Tumblr.
Great video Rev! This is actually kinda trippy to me, this guys a whole different person than i perceived. I watched alot of Zentreya, Henya and Ironmouse, so ive seen plenty of collabs with Evil Toaster. I've always wondered how he ended up in their collabs and kinda jus marked it up to one of Zens friends but never did i notice he was this inappropriate. Not only does he have an inability to respect boundaries but his insistence on pushing people's personal boundaries seem VERY malicious. Then reading those messages with people came off as weird and unsettling, ESPECIALLY with a person of power. Really glad his true colors are showing and he is being exposed. Who knows what he would of done to young and upcoming content creators if left unchecked..
Do you remember that deer person who got a deergasm on stream? Twitch seems to employ just weirdos.
dear lord what?
why did you have to remind everyone of that 😭
@@neonxraven99yeah you don't want to know
What? You don't just say that with no explanation.
@@Madame_Enyo google ferociously Steph
The fact that he claims to have autism yet sexulizes the idea of anyone else having it to the point of forcing a diagnosis on them and getting angry when they don't agree is so messed up, and this is coming from an autistic person here. Keep your fetishes in fiction please...
You know how a common symptom of autism is long term hyperfixation(s)? This is the type of person that is the result of having an autistic hyperfixation _on being autistic_ and is also a projecting narcissist.
I just straight up don't believe anyone who says they are autistic and doesn't mention their level. Seriously It's kind of a important part of the whole diagnosis.
Well, you can also be sexually driven as an autist - especially when you have ADHD. But yes, it's still stupid, does he think the girl would immediately jump into bed with him just because of the same diagnosis? Especially autistic people need much more, mutual interest fields, mutual comfort zones, to bond to each other.
This guy has the same energy as someone getting a supervisor position at a fast food restaurant and thinking they are special.
we really need to stop looking for love online as a society. friendship? sure, but don't escalate it until you've been good friends IRL.
Nice to know that your favourite vtuber on twitch has a very high chance to get harassed by this creepy freak and Twitch wont do a thing about it. How does that make you feel?
It makes me angry. Very angry. Getting tired of crappy people doing crappy things.
Boundary issues? People nowadays need to relearn the joys of the phrase "good fences make good neighbors."
While it is true that women are more comfy bein touchy feely with other women, im fairly certain its how close the two ppl are and the vibes
No girl is gonna let another girl touch her is she senses some creepy ass vibes from her, or like... idk, is desperate to cope a feel?? has expressed being lonely and wanting attention from women?? whos overall just toxic in general?
ive had some lady friends where ive been friendly-flirty with, which is fun, but its a JOKE, and understandably, no woman is gonna joke like that with a guy (or a lesbian) cuz that kinda talk is purely platonic, and talking in that way with someone who could take it as a sign that they have a chance at a romantic relationship isnt something anyone wants to deal with
Exactly, men are sometimes touchy too in a jokey sense, Toaster is just a creep
@@guerreiroazul3230we absolutely joke about stuff with eachother. Few days ago a work friend almost got into an accident cause he was looking at me instead if where he was walking (we were talking so ofc he was looking at the person he was talking to) and I instantly went with a joke about "how pretty I am, that he couldn't take his eyes off of me"
Toaster actively bragging about a " feature" that only benefits specifically him. He was so desperate he even tagged Zen like " Zen save me" COMPLETELY ignorant of Zen justifiably criticizing what HE SPECIFICALLY caused to be implemented, is hilarious. Almost certainly started associating with Zen because everyone calls her a Toaster and she has more followers than he does. Poor Zen and the amount of collab requests she probably got from bots and kids before she even realized this garbage her " Friend" pushed got implemented
12:30 Will we be seeing the dawn of a new Chris Chan with this mentality?
>be content creator
>favored by Twitch/RUclips
>make incredibly dumb decision
>get criticized
>double down
>attack the people criticizing you
>never admit fault
>never apologize
>never correct course
>get investigated by online sleuths
>lengthy Google Doc uncovering the skeletons in your closet
>hemorrhage followers
How does this exact same thing KEEP happening? You'd think people would learn.
people believe that it'll never happen to them.
Oh my god the part where the dude in the Google doc just won’t take no for an answer is so bad, I was literally going, “DUDE! STOP! Why are you putting yourself in a position to turn yourself into a creep?” I just felt so icky all over seeing all of that, ugh… 🤢
After the first attempt, there may have been a chance she'll still talk to you, but when you push for a second and then third time, there's no way they aren't blocked.
For me the biggest problem is that it is effectively a workspace and Toaster is something between a coworker and a supervisor. That block will have consequences in future opportunities and prospect of growth. It's a lose-lose for the small creators.
Yeah, dude lacks boundaries and clearly doesn't care to accept the boundaries of others. That's extremely unprofessional and really shouldn't be tolerated in a company.
Also that is some rapist type mentality shit btw. It doesn't look good.
other vtubers right now: breaking dimensions
this guy: breaking boundaries
"No one likes mental health jokes"
I've literally never met a single mentally ill person (including myself) that DIDN'T love cracking jokes about mental health.
Shockingly, humor is a good coping mechanism.
Forcing or pushing an Autism diagnosis on others when you are not a trained professional is awful!
When I got diagnosed over 15+ years ago, It took different doctors, documents and observations.
Taking a test online only gives you a rough idea if you might have autism or not.