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  • @agbontaenefe
    @agbontaenefe Год назад +5

    I like this guy already. He was able to say in 15 minutes what a lot of professors cannot say in 15 days. Even with the limited English words...
    Love the presentation

  • @AfroNinjaX
    @AfroNinjaX 12 лет назад +17

    I love how this man uses the Game of Thrones series as a metaphor at a TED event.

  • @armendvojvoda6289
    @armendvojvoda6289 3 года назад +30

    This video strengthened me a stereotype I have for Chinese: they are smart people. lmao
    Great speech.

  • @samflanagan77
    @samflanagan77 7 лет назад +25

    That guy is great. Bar none the best 20 minute TED I've seen yet.

  • @eminemerskyler3793
    @eminemerskyler3793 9 лет назад +18

    The awkward moment when you have homework concerning this video.

  • @ahuhu
    @ahuhu 4 года назад +5

    dang this was uploaded in 2012.
    i'm from china and i would've been so hopeful after watching this if i watched it back then, but now i'm only left with despair.

    • @michaelcraigellis6519
      @michaelcraigellis6519 4 года назад

      Stop raping the planet , leave the tigers,rhinos,sharks,manta rays,cave swifts,pangolins,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc alone u bastards

    • @xyc350
      @xyc350 4 года назад +4

      @@michaelcraigellis6519 arent you a cheery one

  • @Waranoa
    @Waranoa 12 лет назад +5

    I honestly learned some interesting stuff about China, and it's a great talk. Pure gold!

  • @Mhyque
    @Mhyque 12 лет назад +11

    Studying in China for a year the main problem I had with the censorship was the inability to access online academic journals. It made staying on the cutting edge of any field quite difficult. Aside from that, the inability to easily communicate with people back home through blogs, facebook, and the like was inconvenient, but not terribly damaging.

  • @3rdAutisticCuckoo
    @3rdAutisticCuckoo 12 лет назад +4

    He does have a strong Chinese accent, but most native English speakers are quite used to listening to such accents and have little difficulty understanding them. But I can understand how people who speak English as a second language might have trouble - even other Chinese.

  • @ethanbai5712
    @ethanbai5712 6 лет назад +49

    This is a great video and I love the ending mentioning all countries have good cats and bad cats. Yes, no matter where we live, we are not living in pure freedom world. There is always restrain, for example, the government, but the fundamental truth is, it exists for a reason and we just need to fight for what we think is right.

  • @grumpygardner3059
    @grumpygardner3059 Год назад +1

    This Ted Talk was mentioned in Elizabeth Economys' book 'The Third Revolution '. I thank you for keeping it alive.

  • @givennamefamilyname8175
    @givennamefamilyname8175 10 лет назад +6

    Awesome lecture~
    objective and profound
    很棒的演講,既客觀又深刻!

    • @x15Lovex
      @x15Lovex 7 лет назад

      givenname familyname it's not profound, actually the talk is the opposite of profound, I found the talk lacking depth and deep insight. The presenter just showed us the basics you can find from just a simple google search

  • @stevenbridges
    @stevenbridges 12 лет назад +41

    Great talk. Much respect.

    • @kevinlee5857
      @kevinlee5857 2 года назад

      China has a Great Firewall, the United States directly cancels Trump's account

  • @internetcensorship5775
    @internetcensorship5775 5 лет назад +4

    Growing up in America I never really considered what a blessing it was to live in a country without this kind of restriction online. I use the internet every single day, and the thought of such a heavily-censored, moderated version of it is quite astonishing What stood to me more than anything else was the number of users of this "Chinanet", more than the entire population of my country. Absolutely mind-blowing.

  • @bobbarkeriii2597
    @bobbarkeriii2597 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent reporting. And way ahead of its time.

  • @chrisweihu2009
    @chrisweihu2009 12 лет назад +1

    Ya, man. I hope nothing bad happen to him after this talk. He's got the guts to talk publicly. RESPECT! I will follow him more closely. One point He made is very true that after all Chinese are not so different than Americans. We all want the same thing. free speech, human right, a better life. Under the sky, there is but one family.

  • @MutantGospel
    @MutantGospel 12 лет назад +3

    Great stuff. Changed my perception on Chinese censorship of the Internet.

  • @themindlessodyssey
    @themindlessodyssey 4 года назад +35

    This is the most interesting TED talk I have ever heard

    • @bsinam
      @bsinam 4 года назад +1

      The true picture of CCP regime.

    • @starch0075
      @starch0075 3 года назад +1

      You should watch more.

    • @user-lp4wu1nx5i
      @user-lp4wu1nx5i 3 года назад

      @@bsinam if you really trust him that people can be prisoned for trifles

    • @user-ty2fm3ge9m
      @user-ty2fm3ge9m 3 года назад

      @baby龙 Techniquely the western media is speech free, though the government and companies can still use their recommendation system and alternate stories to censor.

  • @chunli99
    @chunli99 12 лет назад +1

    Fantastic speech, really glad this was talked about.

  • @zapleaf
    @zapleaf 12 лет назад +1

    17:42
    On a serious note, this video was amazing!

  • @anindyaray7711
    @anindyaray7711 8 лет назад +4

    great speach i like it

  • @Dudemar0
    @Dudemar0 9 лет назад +4

    Really interesting talk

  • @TRANGNGUYEN-fe6lo
    @TRANGNGUYEN-fe6lo 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant, thank you.

  • @JAMamation
    @JAMamation 12 лет назад +1

    I completely agree, it's so addictive, ruins lives and limits REAL social communication.. I remember when I used to HAVE to meet my friends in person, now it's just a different story.

  • @lilwalis6742
    @lilwalis6742 4 года назад +7

    While he was talking about "anyone....will be arrested," I'm wondering why he is still active online basically on every platform in 2020?

  • @XiangC6
    @XiangC6 10 лет назад +145

    Pretty fun listening to this after knowing about Edward Snowden.

    • @sab6393
      @sab6393 7 лет назад +1

      This is a good one. Shoutout to you 兄弟

    • @zachhare2986
      @zachhare2986 6 лет назад +10

      Even funnier after seeing Mark Zuckerberg on trial

    • @dreadrobertscanady1285
      @dreadrobertscanady1285 4 года назад +3

      hey there! paid communist party commenter

    • @Harthorn
      @Harthorn 4 года назад +1

      @@zachhare2986 Beyond China, these folk maybe called out and stood trial. In CCP China? Lol not a chance.

    • @user-sv9pm5mw6y
      @user-sv9pm5mw6y 2 года назад +1

      @@dreadrobertscanady1285 hi there, a know nothing people but know how to call others paid commenter, Just cause they mentioned Snowden issue.
      Good boy, keep going

  • @erikfu21
    @erikfu21 12 лет назад +2

    mad props to this guy. he's a leader.

  • @cameronauclair2195
    @cameronauclair2195 12 лет назад +2

    I loved this video, great job!

  • @mgcahzm574
    @mgcahzm574 8 лет назад +5

    China= LAN Rest of the world=Internet

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 4 года назад +4

    I wondered what’s his political view on China.

  • @khalidax
    @khalidax 12 лет назад +1

    incredibly well spoken and concise

  • @Trazynn
    @Trazynn 12 лет назад

    His English is gradually getting better and better towards the end of the talk it's really interesting to notice.

  • @aison2735
    @aison2735 8 лет назад +4

    部分同意

  • @antoniolee9550
    @antoniolee9550 8 лет назад +5

    oh,i am in china now,.....who said i cannot log in facebook??

    • @user-nz3jd5mm5r
      @user-nz3jd5mm5r 8 лет назад +1

      GFW only stop Chinese from connecting the internet over the wall,that's why you can do it,but we do it more difficult.

    • @AIRBORNEUSARMY-kl5ot
      @AIRBORNEUSARMY-kl5ot 5 лет назад +1

      Chinese people can access everything thru VPN. 😭 SAD

    • @Harthorn
      @Harthorn 4 года назад +1

      Use of VPN? Which is actually illegal until you've lodge application with CCP for "business use", which they may or may not grant, at their discretion.

  • @HeidenBump
    @HeidenBump 11 лет назад

    Indeed! still fun to test the transcribed subtitles, though ;)

  • @SeriousPsyche
    @SeriousPsyche 12 лет назад +1

    Finally, I can use the experience of knowing an off-the-boat Chinese guy growing up to understand thick Chinese accents

  • @user-go9dg1vi4v
    @user-go9dg1vi4v 7 лет назад +23

    翻墙啦.在大陆翻出来,在国外翻回来2333

  • @Zee-to3wo
    @Zee-to3wo 6 лет назад +14

    i don't understand politics, i want google scholar back

  • @duhishipthemtoo1585
    @duhishipthemtoo1585 Год назад

    this video still sounds solid after ten yrs

  • @hamitokia
    @hamitokia 12 лет назад +1

    eye-opening and thought provoking good stuff.

  • @janejane755
    @janejane755 7 лет назад +17

    Tudou did not copy RUclips. Before RUclips even exist, Tudou was already there. I had been watching films on Tudou from US for years before RUclips begin.

    • @adamtrott78
      @adamtrott78 4 года назад +1

      Jane Jane RUclips was made in 14/2/05. Toudu was made in 21/12/06

    • @jaksbekalskkz1961
      @jaksbekalskkz1961 4 года назад

      @l lie yayaay, everything is similar to american apps right?

  • @CandyD894
    @CandyD894 6 лет назад +13

    没什么深度的视频 在中国大陆 稍微有一点知识水平的人都能通过各种手段“翻墙”
    the content is not correspond with the fact.
    Actually in mainland China,if your knowledge level is not very bad ,you can find many ways to round the GFW(Great Firewall)

  • @Pemphetru
    @Pemphetru 11 лет назад +1

    i'm also having difficulties understanding him, but that's because i'm not used to chinese accents. i had the same difficulty with german accents, but i got over it. a very intimidating speech, considering the content and the time period...

  • @MikoSillanmaki
    @MikoSillanmaki 12 лет назад +1

    "someone is having a worse time than i am, so i cant feel shit, tho everything is fucked"

  • @lianghao7128
    @lianghao7128 6 лет назад +4

    The development speed of China enough to prove everything, why now Chinese need to hush it, saying People will talk., language can cause great harm, especially for a country was short of money, a country, to the shortest time rich, the most important is the social stability, with an strong government, to eliminate all obstacles to the development of economy, the most effective strategy and execution. Then a strong government, and freedom of speech is contradictory, why, because of the strong government, on behalf of the western democracy and centralization, is the opposite, but if the western democracy, so to see what happens, "such as The Belt and Road, similar large-scale such strategy, which is the western government forever not able to do so, because Western votes out of the government, after all, is the" veto ", no one organization has enough power to make a strategy, but everyone has the power to veto, which led to what the government can do, any strategy, will damage the interests of some people, even a small number of people, but that some people, enough to make strategy can not, this is the biggest disadvantage of western style liberal interest groups, passing each other, leading to conducive to the long-term The development of the bill, not through, they do not have a strong group stand out to lead the way, as long as there are people to stand up, they say, is autocratic, so the result is economic stagnation has rich capitalist countries, a large number of young people unemployed, poor countries is the slow development of capitalism, the contrast India and Chinese you know, in 1980, China's economy was flat, now? How many times is China's economy in India? India has all the freedoms you want, is it effective? A large number of people's lives are miserable. Go back to the question of freedom of speech, freedom of speech if you easily brainwashed, this silly beep, by the western public opinion, speech will begin to attack the government, inciting the public mood, cause social instability, social instability is the biggest obstacle to economic development, look at the cultural revolution will know, busy and struggle. Focus on the development of the economy? Chinese so big country, so many people, so difficult, but the economy is growing at ten percent a year, has lasted for 30 years, this year the total economic China is 10 times in 2003, and America's economy is only 1.8 times in 2003, this is the advantage of one party

  • @bazej1080
    @bazej1080 4 года назад +4

    Really brave man. Great presentation. This censorship is scary thing, like police waiting for you if you just want to met with friends, because government is afraid of some revolution and read all you post in the internet.. I hope common Chinese people will be able to find a way to speak freely!

    • @Ummmmmmmm841
      @Ummmmmmmm841 4 года назад +2

      Bro you are just letting ur imagination getting the better of you.

    • @rulin4962
      @rulin4962 4 года назад +1

      You might be surprised to know all Chinese can speak freely as long as you are not spreading lies or rumors to impose dangers to public safety.

  • @PisithThanasaethsakul
    @PisithThanasaethsakul 12 лет назад +1

    Brilliant speech, I think many countries in Asia are facing similar problem as Chinese people.Thailand , Malaysia " etc
    Mainstream media are controlled by the governments and majority of the people still unable to access to more resource on the internet.

  • @someshbhardwaj4690
    @someshbhardwaj4690 4 года назад +2

    I wish i could have heard this before.

  • @rerezhang8481
    @rerezhang8481 8 лет назад +21

    his small jokes just make this much more interesting
    and if you consider hong kong as china then technically you can use Facebook and twitter in china

    • @davidluo3463
      @davidluo3463 4 года назад

      And u do can use both of them.

    • @f.s.sharkwind8855
      @f.s.sharkwind8855 3 года назад +1

      @Controversial Chris Hongkong is part of China though

  • @user-cm2qm4xf7i
    @user-cm2qm4xf7i 11 лет назад +6

    What the fuck, these comments are 80% idiocy.. I was hoping to read something perhaps slightly more intellectual than people bandying personal attacks. Well, that's RUclips, I guess..

    • @Reboobed
      @Reboobed 5 лет назад +1

      I'm pretty sure 90 percent of these are just people spreading misinformation or doublethink or completely unrelated comments to stifle any actual discussion.

  • @huynhngochuy4672
    @huynhngochuy4672 5 лет назад +1

    very good . thanks AD.

  • @stuckintherut
    @stuckintherut 12 лет назад +1

    great talk

  • @user-yp5hq6tz2p
    @user-yp5hq6tz2p 6 лет назад +12

    六年后在看,谁在互联网上更胜一筹不言而喻!

  • @hahnwind319
    @hahnwind319 5 лет назад +4

    居然有姚公知哎

  • @ghostpants4920
    @ghostpants4920 9 лет назад +1

    Very brave guy. If the government over there wants this, it's going to happen... Which is sad.

  • @ShipanD
    @ShipanD 2 года назад +1

    So great!!proud of us

  • @shawnrichter6422
    @shawnrichter6422 8 лет назад +13

    censorship exist all the time all the time in any country, but just in different type and level. To against all censorship is just the dream of people, but governments won't let go of this power, or reign will crush. GFW used to be important I think, as when china's found was looked as threat of some(or many) western countries. But does it still reasonable now? got no idea yet.

    • @user-dp9go8do9u
      @user-dp9go8do9u 7 лет назад

      Censorship is active, not passive, in the West, and is done so in which exabytes of data are removed, modified, and changed on a daily basis, without any notice.

    • @proveritate1205
      @proveritate1205 7 лет назад

      But censorship must be kept at minimal possible. Censorship, besides being an unethical thing, is detrimental for people's freedom and wellbeing; and, ironically, for the whole country, rulers included.

    • @taihoangnguyen5285
      @taihoangnguyen5285 6 лет назад +1

      censorship in china is worse thing i ever seen. they killing your knowlege. make china become enemy of the world

    • @jaksbekalskkz1961
      @jaksbekalskkz1961 4 года назад

      @@taihoangnguyen5285 ??i've been living in china for more than 10 years, what are you talking about??? it's totally biased

  • @WhiteCamry
    @WhiteCamry 10 лет назад +6

    Expect changes in China in the near future. No one-party state survives the ten years after hosting an Olympics - just ask the residents of Berlin, Moscow and Sarajevo.
    Let's just hope the powers-that-be in Beijing will make it a smooth regime change.

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 10 лет назад

      Johney Smith
      Probably, but their monopoly on power won't last.

    • @meis
      @meis 10 лет назад +1

      Stop copy pasting this redundant bs everywhere. You're not getting any credibility on it. Reason: China is different than those shitty countries that you mentioned. Why? Different history. Cheers.
      /watch?v=imhUmLtlZpw

    • @meis
      @meis 10 лет назад +4

      China has no time to entertain you nor anyone. She has no obligation to prove to anyone what's wrong or right. In fact, she don't care about your "universal measurements". She has other important matters on her hand to take care. Do not look so highly of yourself.

  • @jsjw2
    @jsjw2 12 лет назад

    I was expecting some technical details about how the firework works... which by itself has some quite interesting/creative innovations i heard...

  • @DrStevenHong
    @DrStevenHong 5 лет назад +1

    簡單又帶有知識性的評論,很不錯!

  • @justaguy6216
    @justaguy6216 3 года назад +17

    I love the idea that he's endorsing about Chinese people fighting for their own freedoms instead of importing some American idea of freedom.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад +1

      american idea of freedom? in what sense is it american to want net neutrality and civil liberties

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад +1

      anyways americans certainly arent consistent with ideas of freedom exactly but ive taken parts of concepts they have and used it as part of my own

    • @justaguy6216
      @justaguy6216 2 года назад +1

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw Different people have different ideas of freedom that work for them, you can't really import/force one system on to a different peoples. If change is gonna come to Chinese society it will be done by the will of the Chinese people.
      What I mean by what I said is that it's not anyone eles place to tell Chinese people what freedoms they should care about. Same with all other societies.
      In America having a car is seen as a symbol of freedom, while in Europe having access to various types if cheap/free public transport/cycling infrastructure etc is seen as freedom. For example.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад

      @@justaguy6216 having a car well many people there will disagree anyways

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад

      @@justaguy6216 anyways different ideas for freedom exist but we certainly must eliminate things that clearly arent free or else we will end up in chaos being able to justify literally anything

  • @lyh8542
    @lyh8542 8 лет назад +6

    大陆翻墙观光团~

  • @tamargain7103
    @tamargain7103 4 года назад +1

    excellent and informative

  • @snowdog03
    @snowdog03 6 лет назад

    For those who say: You can always tunnel or vpn, there is a speed penalty, especially with vpn.

  • @fsh3702
    @fsh3702 7 лет назад +7

    如果youtube,Facebook,tweeter进入中国,国内的那些互联网公司基本就全倒闭了,期待google重新回到中国。

    • @wangzheyu0527
      @wangzheyu0527 7 лет назад

      翻墙呗23333

    • @fsh3702
      @fsh3702 7 лет назад

      Adamo Wang VPN有时候很不稳定啊。用VPN给我的感觉就和在国外买made in china差不多。

    • @harryang5064
      @harryang5064 7 лет назад +3

      我晕,你自己去国外用一用这些东西再来扯淡,Facebook还算是可以,但是他的WhatsApp跟WeChat有任何可比性么???tweeter跟微博有可比性么???Google给假药打广告的时候百度还是垃圾呢,现在Google洗白了就可以鄙视百度给假医院打广告了???别忘了,当初Google在中国好多年,市占率从未超过百度而且一直在下滑,有些人装逼非要说Google比百度好用你还真信了??真要是好用那当初为什么市占率越来越低???而且不仅在中国,Google在韩国和日本这些东亚文化圈里都不是最受欢迎的,这是有原因的。
      脑子是个好东西,我希望你能有,看问题别跟个傻逼一样只知道喷,至少也得客观一点

    • @user-ul3kd4xc1k
      @user-ul3kd4xc1k 7 лет назад +1

      Harry ANG 我也是翻墙出来的,我来说句公道话儿,翻墙上油管的中国网友大部分也肯定用过FB,Twitter和谷歌什么的,我就觉得Twitter 和FB挺好用的,可以Follow 一些全世界明星和好友,比如我就在FB上有好多我国外的朋友,我在Twitter上Follow 了科比,詹姆斯这样的nba球星,如果FB和Twitter没微博和微信好用,那为什么世界上其他国家的大部分人不来用微博和微信?我知道,你可能要问我,那我为什么还要用微信微博,我只能说因为我的同学,家人都在用,只是随个大溜儿。再说谷歌,你可以去试试搜索同一个关键词,在谷歌搜着的东西要比百度多,而且有的词条,比如“六四事件”在百度上根本搜不到,在谷歌上却可以搜到,而且百度上的广告要比谷歌多。还是那句话,如果百度更好,那为什么世界上大部分人都在用谷歌啊。。。有些客观事实,必须得尊重,与爱不爱国无关。脑子是个好东西,希望你也有个好脑子。看见就行了,不用回我了,我只是表达了一下我的看法,我也不想知道你是怎么想的。🙂🙂🙂

    • @WQin-vo9mm
      @WQin-vo9mm 7 лет назад +2

      东西是烂,我也讨厌这些垄断巨头,你可以不用,但是有些东西必须掌握在自己人手里。媒体互联网这种东西现在已经成为了战场,假新闻泛滥,一部分人特别是教育水平低的人极其容易被煽动做出不理智的事,进而引发社会动乱。民煮只是理想,现实并不存在,包括美国。

  • @stevenleung9532
    @stevenleung9532 6 лет назад +4

    What the heck has he talked about in a whole 18 minutes?

    • @BenjiSun
      @BenjiSun 4 года назад +2

      he's a dog person.

  • @user-bk2jh3sj7s
    @user-bk2jh3sj7s 4 года назад +1

    but today criticizing the government is equal to slandering China.

  • @sammoshaw
    @sammoshaw 12 лет назад

    it's happening here in China.Great talk

  • @blueandyyb
    @blueandyyb 10 лет назад +17

    南方系呵呵,也不看看FB和RUclips最初为什么会被封,七五什么的只字不提。

    • @zilongzhao3274
      @zilongzhao3274 5 лет назад

      几年之后再看这个视频 对南方系只能呵呵 理想很丰满

  • @wenyingwang7351
    @wenyingwang7351 7 лет назад +87

    其实如果没有防火墙,中国不会有BAT这样的超级互联网企业,防火墙有意无意的保护了民族产业

    • @susannasu2081
      @susannasu2081 7 лет назад +7

      赞成,觉得他根本没讲到点子上,说的很片面。

    • @SwetPotato
      @SwetPotato 7 лет назад

      什么东西都有偏袒面的, media bias这种东西毕竟是避免不了欸~看看就好~

    • @leoleo811
      @leoleo811 7 лет назад +8

      Wenying Wang 所以我觉得他很肤浅,很多东西他说的符合现实,但是,他没有讲到深处,这种水平的演讲,如果是用中文说,我大学就有水平做的出来,这水平,我真心觉得也就国内好点大学生,本科的水平

    • @GachiTscho
      @GachiTscho 7 лет назад

      這是衍生物

    • @susanaharry
      @susanaharry 7 лет назад +3

      Leo Leo 握手,我也這麼覺得。覺得這種水平的演講完全達不到ted演講應有的高度

  • @stan5250
    @stan5250 10 лет назад

    Great speech!

  • @2Critical4You
    @2Critical4You 11 лет назад

    Maybe I'm just used to listening to people with accents. But I can understand him perfectly.

  • @tigerlee7189
    @tigerlee7189 6 лет назад +8

    The man lives in Beijing in the heart of the evil system and blood-thirsty wolfs. Very brave, courage and fearless man. As an ex-victim of the communism, I salute you.

  • @davidhynes
    @davidhynes 7 лет назад +8

    CCP will never change.

    • @junjiexiang5991
      @junjiexiang5991 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Ojr-tqaQQOQ/видео.html u r so wrong lol

  • @ancestralblue
    @ancestralblue 11 лет назад

    The internet...artificial intelligence...will not be denied. People everywhere, including China and so many other places like us, are experiencing an evolution that we all crave. We're ready! God bless the people of China and anyone who seeks that evolution!

  • @hahageisha1306
    @hahageisha1306 4 года назад +1

    Now In 2019, this is not like this anymore

  • @user-lp4wu1nx5i
    @user-lp4wu1nx5i 3 года назад +4

    一口一个入狱,搞得我都分不清是战忽局还是真NT

  • @usamisomesortoftouhoucon5764
    @usamisomesortoftouhoucon5764 8 лет назад +5

    你们搞的这个东西啊,Excited!!

  • @funnyguylol69
    @funnyguylol69 12 лет назад

    Excellent speech.

  • @beterhans
    @beterhans 7 лет назад

    好有意思 不错!

  • @hersv
    @hersv 11 лет назад +5

    饱受诟病的防火墙的确阻碍了中国网民和世界的交流,其实不仅仅是社交网络,很多优秀的网站在中国都无法正常浏览。可是,这种审查制度保证了执政者的权力不受威胁,并且随着微博时代的到来,网民和审查者在不断的博弈过程中得到了经验和进步,并且这种局面还会继续进行下去。
    Anti的观点是理智的,即不否认事实的存在,也看到了局面改观的未来。

    • @user-lc1qg8qz3t
      @user-lc1qg8qz3t 4 года назад

      但至少在今天的2020年看来,防火墙是正确的😂

  • @haoxiong7077
    @haoxiong7077 8 лет назад +16

    I thought it was a technical talk to explain the topology of GFW, so disappointing

    • @koosfarah8500
      @koosfarah8500 8 лет назад

      o

    • @leoleo811
      @leoleo811 7 лет назад +7

      Hao Xiong 我觉得他很肤浅,真的,他讲了很多东西,没错,有很多符合现实,但是他没有真正的讲到网络控制的深处,我很失望,我觉得凭他的水平,不足以上ted.甚至水平不如一些名牌大学出来的中国大学生

    • @nahschineseclass4469
      @nahschineseclass4469 7 лет назад +4

      cant agree with you more. He is too young, too simple, always naive.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 7 лет назад

      NAHS Chinese Class 到youtube还要膜 过分了啊

    • @lurenjiacd
      @lurenjiacd 7 лет назад

  • @polymer940c
    @polymer940c 12 лет назад

    TED should make a talk about how The Media, is not from TV anymore, the REAL media is posted by people. That the govement and media company is regulated, and the truth is some what different than what is given

  • @browngom
    @browngom 12 лет назад +1

    "i think, mr. fox, a simple phone call would have sufficed."

  • @zhixuanzhu5292
    @zhixuanzhu5292 7 лет назад +20

    有些问题他大题小做。。有点儿像西方人的口吻。。。。

    • @tearslee2469
      @tearslee2469 5 лет назад +1

      毕竟这就是给西方人听的,毕竟每个人都想听到他们不知道的,但是又不太出乎意料的事情,中国的网络一定没有国际网络好,这就是他们意料内的事情。

  • @jusabcd520
    @jusabcd520 8 лет назад +18

    又是一个战略忽悠局的。。。

    • @munmilks
      @munmilks 5 лет назад +1

      cao ni ma
      :_: JKJKJKJKJK DONT PUT ME ON THE BLACKLIST LONG LIVE WONDERFUL LOVELY LEADER XI JINPING

    • @jaksbekalskkz1961
      @jaksbekalskkz1961 4 года назад

      @@munmilks 。。。

    • @jaksbekalskkz1961
      @jaksbekalskkz1961 4 года назад

      @@munmilks 有病?

  • @coolguyx14
    @coolguyx14 4 года назад

    1:00 oh it can get sicker... literally

  • @conillusionist
    @conillusionist 12 лет назад

    awesome

  • @user-jt5lq5zd9y
    @user-jt5lq5zd9y 11 лет назад +7

    听到这英文,表示一点点难过...

  • @user-ne8st6io3r
    @user-ne8st6io3r 3 года назад +5

    为什么推特如此自由却封了一堆号

  • @user-pf2co6gh4x
    @user-pf2co6gh4x 10 лет назад +2

    exactly right

  • @FoxBatinaHat
    @FoxBatinaHat 12 лет назад

    There are so many people in china, if they had freedom of speech as we did (in the sense and way that we enjoy it now) the revolutions and infighting and civil wars it would cause would affect the whole world negatively.

  • @kejixiaozhushou
    @kejixiaozhushou 7 лет назад +29

    有些迎合西方的人 感觉有点low

    • @sufawu9272
      @sufawu9272 6 лет назад +1

      故意这样的,讲西方人爱听的话。

    • @Clairezhangs
      @Clairezhangs 6 лет назад

      主要还眉飞色舞好像很得意

    • @jingfeng7138
      @jingfeng7138 6 лет назад +1

      根本没有吧说得很客观好吗

    • @jimmyrui3858
      @jimmyrui3858 6 лет назад +1

      基本上是很客观吧

    • @jimmyrui3858
      @jimmyrui3858 6 лет назад +1

      而且也没有必要非和西方人对着干吧

  • @sab6393
    @sab6393 7 лет назад +3

    this guy is so freaking biased that it pissed me off. I am a Chinese and I live under so called the great fire wall. It is not good to have that tho. But you can still get to know everything behind the wall easily if you want, what is the big deal man??? Come on You're not funny at all by making fun of your motherland. This is what I think: we can't change anything about the gfw, just make sure we know how to deal with that, make sure not get brainwashed by what gfw offer us to see. Come on this world is dirty and censored, not only China

    • @Karim-ik5ij
      @Karim-ik5ij 5 лет назад

      It should be up to the citizens to not want to surf internet outside of China. Chinese officials should not make the decision for them by putting up a firewall. Yes, you can easily circumvent it with a firewall but it is the morals behind it that makes me angry. Plus, using VPN is slower than using regular internet. Look up the project called substraum. They are building a decentralized blockchain network to act as a VPN that cannot be shut down.

  • @valentinonewman891
    @valentinonewman891 3 года назад +1

    I have to admit that it´s so hard to understand, not only because of the accent, but also the logic, no idea what´s that he is trying to say, pro or con chinese censorship? A logical analyse about the chinese internet situation? I am so confused.

  • @lyttlebee
    @lyttlebee 6 лет назад +10

    讲完这个speech美国绿卡到手😂

  • @ivenwuc4421
    @ivenwuc4421 9 лет назад +3

    为何听不下去

  • @mtdeezy
    @mtdeezy 12 лет назад +1

    All of my friends from China use facebook, and some of them have youtube accounts. Why do you say that China blocks these?

  • @tapashyarasaily1373
    @tapashyarasaily1373 4 года назад

    Nice....such a harsh reality delivered with such humour....

  • @amandahu2966
    @amandahu2966 6 лет назад +18

    看到这么多巨婴支持大家长式管制,也是感人。

    • @user-cv5mb2cg9y
      @user-cv5mb2cg9y 6 лет назад +3

      嘎嘎嘎 你是谁,如果你不能接收别人的意见,请别把你的意见强加于人。

    • @peguinman2616
      @peguinman2616 5 лет назад +1

      @@shen921230 海外外人这么喜欢中共为什么不圆润滚回去,在墙外站着说话不腰疼吗:)

    • @jiolivia3323
      @jiolivia3323 5 лет назад

      那些几百万在中国留学工作结婚的各个国家的人为什么不圆润滚回自己国家去,都是恨国才出来的吗?那恨美国恨欧洲的人可不少啊 @@peguinman2616

    • @peguinman2616
      @peguinman2616 5 лет назад

      @@jiolivia3323 笑死我了,留学和移民傻傻分不清楚

    • @jiolivia3323
      @jiolivia3323 5 лет назад

      @@peguinman2616 笑死我了,中国本来就不是移民国家。更何况你从哪里看出人家是海外外人?你自己恨国,不要扯别人,再怎么精神漂白你也还在打中国字说中国话。你没有资格要求别人怎么做,开口就让别人滚回去,你是谁啊?抱着键盘就能指点江山了?在网上说话反正是不负责任呗,你可以发表你的意见,但是对别人指手画脚开口就滚来滚去的,也没显得你逼格多高啊。你自己把自己划为外人可别拉上别人,在你自己的世界里自己快乐就好了