LCARA HAM Radio: Testing the ABBREE 18.89" Tri-band Antenna
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2020
- In this video Brian KY4BDP and Chris KY4CKP test the ABBREE 18.89" tri-band antenna using Yaesu FT2DR hand held radios against the stock rubber ducky and Nagoya NA-771.
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What other antennas would you like to see in a future test?
Nagoya NA-771 vs Abbree AR-771 (clone)
@@drewdurigan5672 YES!
I would love to see you review the *Retevis RHD-771* 20W whip, as well as the *Nagoya NA-24j* skinny whip. The Signal Stick has been widely reviewed, but how does it stack up against the 24j?
The Abbree 18.9 tri-band seems identical to the dual band. It makes me wonder whether the base attachment is what makes the difference? What if you screwed a longer antenna into a tri-band base? Would you have a longer tri-band antenna? And is there any difference between the 18.89-inch dual band and tri-band? Do they both do dual-band equally, or does the dual-band outperform the tri-band?
Try using fusion in the test.
Good video showing that this is simple physics.
The longer the antenna the longer the reach.
Testing to failure is a damn good idea for real life usage.
- Well done!
Great test just what I was looking for. I just bought a Nagoya 771 and the biggest abbree (42in). You should test the abbree 42 inch.
i have a Abbree 18"
i have hit repeaters about 35 miles away
Abbree is a great antenna and cheap as well
with the 18" I got a sandwich field shape with a slight dip in the center and peaks towards the ends. Used just old black box swr/ field meter. Don't remember freq. Great antenna, apparently too much gain sometimes & my uv5riii drops signal (guess baofengs do that)
It would be interesting so see a video comparing different options for using h/t as base - j-pole vs roll up j pole vs small beam for example.
Nice video on the 3 h/t antennas, shows again the importance of the antenna.
Great suggestion!
Another interesting test would be to see how far different frequencies will reach using the best antennas.
Great review. Are you aware of any differences between the 18" vs the 42" or 48"?
I need to know how the abbree performs in the low 460mhz range.
Been using the Abbree 18 inch antenna on my TYT UV8000E for about two years and I find it to be a great antenna. As for SWR's, I tested the Abbree, and on a frequency of 146.000 with mine and my radio, I was looking at 1.0 SWR and a power output of 10 watts, oh, did I forget to say my TYT is a 10 watt HT?. But, only on 146.000 :)
Thanks for sharing
Great lots of confusion and so many knock offs what you will get when ordering who the f knows . Hope to get lucky with mine its on the way the 18...inchr
Brian, you've got clear, vivid image quality. Are you using a cell phone or a camera? Superb video content as well. I just bought some Abbree 18-inchers and am thinking of getting a couple of 48-inchers as well. My only question is, do they come with training wheels?
Nope, but have fun with them! Thanks for watching!
What frequency did you guys test on when you were at the 6miles distance? And also the last test when you did the ABBREE to ABBREE test?
@Nihal Vishvamitra - 2M, Simplex 146.520
Do you have the model number of the Abbree tri-band antenna that was used in this test?
Hey Anthony, there are several to choose from depending on the radio you have. Search for ABBREE tri-band and you should be able to find what you are looking for. Thanks for watching!
@Anthony Ferrara » Abbree doesn't use model numbers. The tri-band is identical to the dual-band in appearance. For all I know they're the same. The base has a black bottom where the screw is on the dual-band. The Abbree is a great antenna. More expensive models do perform slightly better, but not the Nagoyas. The Abbree buries the Nagoya.
Yaesu FT2DR seems to be a bad receiver, I they have low range. My PMR can do those distance with a antenna mod to (0.5 Watt)
One weird thing though…
The Abbree 42.5” = 108cm.
- How can a 108cm antenna perform well on a 64cm wavelength band?
- Could it be because 108cm’s is fairly close to 64cm X 1.6?
Physics tell us that if we use a wavelength X 1.3 or 1.6 or 1.9 and so on it will still perform well.
- Am right or am I wrong?
Since the antenna makes such a big difference, why do the traditional big name radio manufacturers (Yaesu, Kenwood, etc.) insist on still including such cheap and ineffective rubber duckies? Given their radios' price point, it wouldn't cost much to include a decent antenna. What is the interference on the recording? Cell phone or power line?
Seems like the Abbree stomped all over the Nagoya. Pity. I liked Nagoya. Wonder how the Nagoya NA-24J would fare?
I wish you guys would stop comparing antennas with the stock antennas. They're junk. Your tests show the Nagoya antennas are overrated, which has been my experience. I wish you'd tested the Nagoya 320A tri-band, which I suspect would have been a weak-kneed sister to the 771. I love 💕 whip antennas, and I would have loved for the Nagoya to have worked better. The Nagoyas also top out at 10W, but the Abbrees go to 20W. My Radtel RT-470 6-band puts out 13-14 watts on VHF and 11 watts on UHF, so I'm locked into the Abbree. I used to think these tactical antennas were gimmacks. Now you and others have given me more to think about.
Great stuff. Abbree has a tri-band whip antenna (the AR-771) that I've heard some good things about, but I suspect it maxes out at 10W. I'm not even sure it's possible to make a tri-band whip that works. The Nagoya 24J is an impressive dual band I like. Whether it's better than its 771 big brother I don't know.
Ooops, the Abbree AR-771 has a higher power threshold, coming in at 20 watts. The Nagoya 320A comes in at 10 watts! The tactical tri-band antenna also has a maximum power output of 20 watts, though I suspect it will do 25 watts.
a counter pooooos will b better
Which frequency/frequencies are you guys transmitting at? There are three mid-band frequencies:
* 200-260 MHz
* 220-260 MHz
* 222-250 MHz
Are you transmitting at any of these frequencies?
And since this Abbree is a tri-band, you should test it against a Nagoya tri-band NA-320A and a Nagoya dual-band NA-771 at 142.000, 146.525, 440.525 and 446.252. That would tell us how well the antennas do at dual bands. Then the NA-320A should be tested against the Abbree AR-771 tri-band whip. And both should be tested against the Abbree tri-band tactical antenna.
See why there's no room for rubber duckies in this test?
This test, as recorded, tells us nothing. We know nothing about how the Abbree tactical antenna compared to the rubber duckies or the Nagoya antenna. Which Nagoya? What was the power outputted in the HTs? It was struggling at six miles, but the *Retevis RT-29 10W* walkie-talkie does fine at six miles (like it was next door) and at ten miles when elevated (see review by NotARubicon here on RUclips (Do a search)). And that's with the stock antennas! There's so much besides antennas, folks! The radios have to be the same in receiving and transmitting, and even then the same models can perform differently. But most of all, I'd like to know the frequencies used in this test. And it would have been much better if a higher elevation was used on one end, like a tower, mountain or building. But it is what it is and it's better than nothing.
Just read the description (which isn't shown on mobile mode) and it's a Nagoya NA-771 that's being compared. This makes the review even more meaningless. You guys are comparing a dual-band 10W antenna against a tri-band 20W antenna! How is this relevant? We see the gang "test the ABBREE 18.89-inch tri-band antenna using Yaesu FT2DR handheld radios against the stock rubber ducky and Nagoya NA-771."
Okay, it's more than 2-years old, which cuts them some slack, granted. But they did have frequencies back then and we don't know which ones were used, right? C'mon, fellas, which ones were you using? I reckon it wouldn't be cricket using a mid-band frequency, as it's not a band the NA-771 would be covered by the Nagoya, so we have to surmise it's either a VHF band or a UHF band. But which? Again, I'd surmise it would be a VHF band.
But you're comparing a dual-band antenna against a tri-band antenna --- and the Abbree still won! Bully for it! But it still is a dual-band against a tri-band. It shows just how good the Abbree is. And if there's a difference between the Abbree tri-band and the Abbree dual band (they look the same, identical, actually), I don't know what they'd be. Is it possible they're all the same and that the only difference is the price? Who knows? Abbree now has two AR-771s, and they look the same, again, identical. Are they the same antenna?
Who knows?