Entertaining vid Tomley. I thought the bashing you did here was quite reasonable and maybe more representative of what the bulk of owners would do with one of these.......unless I have it completely wrong and everyone just hits skate parks these days. It looks to me like this truck is a tad fragile in places, perhaps a V2 in a couple years will sort it.
I was just about to put a comment and pin it saying my bashing was probably more like the average user... and then you put the same... sounds better coming from someone else :) Cheers dude... I 100% Agree.
A bent chassis where it was bashed would take a major effort, even for an Arrma. I actually was surprised it broke an arm. It was a good crash but not savage by any means 🤔
Great video mate. Never rated Team Corally but that actually looks decent. Just shows you what a company can produce when they listen to their customers. I'm impressed.
Looking a lot like a Pro-Line Pro-MT is definitely a positive!
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Thanks for the nice review. I would also be interested in your view about the new Kronos XTR. The diffs on my Kraton EXB are blowing up constantly and I'm looking for something durable that's not Traxxas or Arrma...
Congrats bro, you are the first RUclips reviewer to break the Sketer on its maiden run. Team Corally should keep sending you these rigs because you drove this how most others who buy it will. Big thanks. 👍 From what I've seen this drives like a 1/8 buggy with bigger wheels. The MT10 is lighter and a backflip beast. I'll keep to my Rival at this stage. Awesome review mate, best of this truck on YT. 🤟💯
It makes sense it's not a back flip machine because of its longer wheel base. Usually means more stability but less stunts. It seems to be a cartwheel machine like my kraton though.
I want to say you probably cracked the arm in a combination of the many bad landings and cartwheels then the last jump just took it out the rest. I think any care wouls break under those conditions. Its a beast though, i do think the wheelie bar may need a redesign or modification like thicker bracing or mounting i should say, and wheel should come in about 1/2 an inch i think it works like a lawndart currently
THE TRUCK SEEMS TO BE SET UP TO RUN CARM AND SMOTH. 15T PINION IS THE SWEET SPOT ALSO FOR BASHING NEEDS STIFFER REAR SPINGS AND DIFFERENT SHOCK OIL. TOTAL DIFFERENT TRUCK THEN SIR. GREAT VIDEO THANKYOU FOR POSTING SIR HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEK.🇬🇧🇺🇸🕊️👍✌️
I enjoyed your review and evaluation. The landing that broke the arm would damage many monster trucks but it was on dirt that's softer than the skate park landing areas.
Really nice well built car and that was a nasty landing not many cars would have came out of that without some kind of breakage great review i'm really digging that car keep up the great work
I reckons under the hideous exterior there’s a decent car waiting for a body transplant to be performed?!….I also think it took a decent beating before it let go, as you say, it’s cheap and easy to fix😎 Change the shell and its a keeper 😻
Pretty fantastic bashing there, Tomley! 😃 Too bad it broke, but it really seems promising! Great and honest review as always! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great video as usual. Just wondering could you do a 4 wheel drive to rear wheel drive conversion on a sg1604. I've got one but I don't know what I am doing so would greatly appreciate a tutorial I could follow. Cheers
What a Excellent, Good wholesome honest review Phil ! 👌🏼 Corally have released some rather nice trucks of late, especially with this new Skeeter & the 2022 kronos XTR ….. Both are certainly looking rather tempting tbh, being extremely well put together with some HD components. Totally agree with your thoughts of tweaking the suspension & pinion upgrade, I think these tweaks will help the trucks performance quite noticeably. Looking forward to the next video 🙂 Stay Safe Phil 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Probably the weight making it harder to control in the air, couldn't tell if the tires ballooning much which may also be a factor if they don't balloon, time to gear it up me thinks 😂😂, with Arrma not having any 4s cars there is a huge hole in the market and have been looking at these, wonder how it would fair in the hands of Jack and Callum with some big sends
@@house_of_carnage I have the Outcast 4s - Arrma 4s cars have not been on sale for nearly 2 years now, the new ones were supposed to be released early 2021, and are now supposed to be released summer 2022, as i said Arrma dont have any 4s cars
@@TomleyRC Indeed, does look like its built like a tank, also eyeing up the XTR 2022. Need something to buy other than Arrma with their price increases
@@TomleyRC well the Kronos is their “Beefy” basher so maybe their sending that model to RUclips’ers that send it to the moon for testing, considering last years model people weren’t to happy with. Listen for the doorbell hope it lands 👍
I'd like to know if either yourself or Kev has / had or planning on ever getting a Custom "BIGGOOT*? Iv seen petrol and lipo versions. And they look beasty as hell.
Seems decent. Since going to the Outcast 8s, I don't think I'll be going for anything smaller. I'm not one for backflips and all that. Bigger air...yes, but not stunts. At some point I'll get another large scale. I won't be getting a Traxxas though. I don't care if the Xmaxx is the best RC...it's still Traxxas
@@nothingmedia8629 Best for some things, but not the best in all respects. I personally don't like Traxxas. Not saying they have bad products, but the company itself.
@@Vaterraman Yes I agree with you. My next rc wil probably be arrma as Traxxas is a very mean company and they sue other companies for no reason. The outcast 8s looks like it can be a beast with a few upgrades
For me a basher should do easy backflips and not be heavy as a rock. But a lot of people will just run it around on an open grass field it will be OK for that. I like to spend more air time than on ground 😄
Nice truck!! I quite like the fact that it's a bit fugly, as I wouldn't be so disappointed if I smashed the shell up!! Shame about the breakage, but great it's easy to get the parts at such a reasonable price!! It'll be interesting to see what aftermarket upgrades come for it 😎👍🏻
Don’t get me wrong i have a few TC, however i really think they can be priced slightly better, that’s my only beef with them. I honestly think it should come in closer to $399.99-429.99. Just my 2 cents. I think a lot more people would buy it then 😉👍🏼💯
@@mikebird8290 we are addressing youtubers who have them for free - that bias is denied all the time, in spite of however the spin. There should be more transparency e.g. RC companies should just demand their cars back after review - afterall the views these videos get should be payment enough - and they should know which channels have the critical mass of viewers
To make back the cost of the truck would be around 200k views… and then add the hrs it takes to film and edit.. add another 50-100k or so of views. This video at the most will get about 20-30k views which would work out at about $100. Your theory is wrong, if this was a normal day job, I’d be working at a loss if I had to send the product back 👍 It’s up to you to decide if you think the reviewer is being transparent and honest. All I’ll say is that Horizon Hobby don’t send me anything anymore 🤷🏼♂️… I wonder why
@@TomleyRC PHIL BUDDY YOU HAVEN'T DONE AS WELL AS YOU HAVE OR HAVE AS MANY LOYAL SUBS FOR TALKING 💩SIR. I SALUTE YOU SIR 🇬🇧✌️. I've NEVER ONCE THOUGHT ANY OF YOUR VIDEOS WAS ANYTHING BUT YOUR HONEST OPINION. I ALSO DON'T THINK U SHOULD HAVE TO SEND REVIEW ITEMS BACK.🇬🇧👍✌️
🤣 It does seem that way. I've had a few breaks on my Corally Kronos but no more than the X Maxx or the Kraton have. My Granite holds up pretty good though, I suppose that's more to do with it being a smaller lighter car though.
If you turn up the punch it’s apparently better for in air control, obviously not quite so good for the drivetrain, but with those landings, the drivetrain is probably the least of your worries 🤣😂🤣
Great vid, see more plastic parts breaking this time of the year and that's probably as hard as I have seen you bash anything on that grass 😛. A 15t seems a good sweet spot on gearing from all the US vids I have seen. It's not really a stunt truck out the box it needs some bigger tyres that will balloon up more to help with rotation in the air.
im prety sure thats the same transmitter as the redy to run absima buggy and its trash. mine started clicking on the first go but realy nice vid. ps i also had that ratalling
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but it looks like it recoils from landings awkwardly. Sure driving could be part of it but I saw some decent landings that should have been absorbed and it rebounded like a basketball. Good video.
first toy And first broken bad day bad time do not worry MR Tomely just plastic you can fixed But i still l😘ve your channal And your some fun comments l😂l Great video my dude cheers🍺
I have a feeling a lot more will break at the skate park, it didn’t look like you were abusing it to me . They definitely might have some issues to address.
I will stay Tommy if you change it pinion to a 15 tooth u will need a fan for the motor mine getting hot ever since I change mine an it not that much faster I would start by turning up punch setting
Every episode keeps getting better, and you keep getting funnier! With Vin Diesel, Barbi, Mario and your ugly girlfriend from this episode, I find myself laughing so much I have to pause the video so I don’t miss anything. You are the best!
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Entertaining vid Tomley. I thought the bashing you did here was quite reasonable and maybe more representative of what the bulk of owners would do with one of these.......unless I have it completely wrong and everyone just hits skate parks these days.
It looks to me like this truck is a tad fragile in places, perhaps a V2 in a couple years will sort it.
I was just about to put a comment and pin it saying my bashing was probably more like the average user... and then you put the same... sounds better coming from someone else :) Cheers dude... I 100% Agree.
@@TomleyRC most welcome :)
I would say thats a bit lame for a extreme basher but a broken arm is a 'nice' thing to break, cheap and easy to fix. Better than bending the chassis!
I wanna bend your chassis 😉
And better than cracking the bulkheads!!! (cough cough maxx cough)
Kraton 8s plastic
A bent chassis where it was bashed would take a major effort, even for an Arrma. I actually was surprised it broke an arm. It was a good crash but not savage by any means 🤔
Kev, i think you should get one and make it 6s, i think it would take someone like you to bend the chassis the way that little car is braced up
To be fare it did take a hell of a beating before it broke. Pretty cool RC. 🔥
Yes.. I was not driving it to well lol
@@TomleyRC i think it was an accumulated damage for the break, got to drive off that rust lol
Really appreciating your honesty! Thats why i have subscribed! Apart from your great Videos!
Thanks dude... I try to say it how I see it
Great video mate. Never rated Team Corally but that actually looks decent. Just shows you what a company can produce when they listen to their customers. I'm impressed.
Yes, it looks really well made. I’m looking forward to some more testing
he's bashing in Tellytubby land! Truck looks fun too.
haha... I'll dress up next time (no padding required!)
@@TomleyRC rotfl, we are in the case camp brother.
Tumble wumble, tough little bugger I like it, yes a tire change, or a gear change should help the air control
Team corally are doing some really good stuff , their cars just keep getting better and better 👌
Agree
Glad they finally fixed the hub problem (it apparently didn’t have) it looks a lot like the pro line pro mt
It’s pretty big, probably on par with the standard Maxx. Seems pretty well built so far
Looking a lot like a Pro-Line Pro-MT is definitely a positive!
Thanks for the nice review. I would also be interested in your view about the new Kronos XTR. The diffs on my Kraton EXB are blowing up constantly and I'm looking for something durable that's not Traxxas or Arrma...
Congrats bro, you are the first RUclips reviewer to break the Sketer on its maiden run. Team Corally should keep sending you these rigs because you drove this how most others who buy it will. Big thanks. 👍 From what I've seen this drives like a 1/8 buggy with bigger wheels. The MT10 is lighter and a backflip beast. I'll keep to my Rival at this stage. Awesome review mate, best of this truck on YT. 🤟💯
It makes sense it's not a back flip machine because of its longer wheel base. Usually means more stability but less stunts. It seems to be a cartwheel machine like my kraton though.
Im mostly super jealous of your bash spot in that park. It like it was MADE for rc cars!!!
The skeeter seems great if your looking for the smallest truck that can still handle rough terrain well
Get some thicker centre diff oil in it and up a couple of teeth on the pinion
Yes
Looks wise. I like it
I have the dementor v1..and its awsome.hard to control on 6s but 4s is wicked..great vid🙂🙂
Your the first I've seen break that thing👍 awesome!
Yeah… it’s probably because I’m the worst driver haha
@@TomleyRC I'm not much better 😂
I want to say you probably cracked the arm in a combination of the many bad landings and cartwheels then the last jump just took it out the rest. I think any care wouls break under those conditions. Its a beast though, i do think the wheelie bar may need a redesign or modification like thicker bracing or mounting i should say, and wheel should come in about 1/2 an inch i think it works like a lawndart currently
He was a Skeeterboy.......
Great honest fair review.
Think i would still go for the MT due to flexibility in the air !
THE TRUCK SEEMS TO BE SET UP TO RUN CARM AND SMOTH. 15T PINION IS THE SWEET SPOT ALSO FOR BASHING NEEDS STIFFER REAR SPINGS AND DIFFERENT SHOCK OIL. TOTAL DIFFERENT TRUCK THEN SIR. GREAT VIDEO THANKYOU FOR POSTING SIR HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEK.🇬🇧🇺🇸🕊️👍✌️
A bit of shock tuning for sure 👌
Why you screaming through comments..lol
@@huckaberryfpv4986 😊👍
@@huckaberryfpv4986 CAN'T FIND GLASSES 🤓
I enjoyed your review and evaluation. The landing that broke the arm would damage many monster trucks but it was on dirt that's softer than the skate park landing areas.
Yeah and the tire got some good grip in the grass. It might have slid on concrete.
Great video mate … not a bad a truck really .. some nice power too.. I’ve noticed if leave the bit of play it stops them from snapping..
I like it. People want a rtr 4s basher. This will fill that spot. I have the 4s Kraton and it takes a beating better than my 6s.
I've only got an s max an a across for bashing. I find them good enough for beginners like me. But now I'm wanting something bigger. Maybe this one.
Really nice well built car and that was a nasty landing not many cars would have came out of that without some kind of breakage great review i'm really digging that car keep up the great work
Well at least the hubs are fixed 💪🏼 that’s all I have to say on the matter before I get into trouble 😂
Meeowww
oh LOL hello guys, Hi Claire!!!!!
When will the lowrider video be released?
Next week hopefully
The car honestly doesn’t look bad, also where is that place you were jumping it?
YES ! return to form , great technical vid !
Looks good, help fill a gap in the market for 4S cars.
Agree… and priced well too
Genuinely surprised it broke... How cold was it that day? Loving my Sketer so far!
Not that cold… it was a very poor landing
I reckons under the hideous exterior there’s a decent car waiting for a body transplant to be performed?!….I also think it took a decent beating before it let go, as you say, it’s cheap and easy to fix😎
Change the shell and its a keeper 😻
Yes, it’s very well engineered
Pretty fantastic bashing there, Tomley! 😃
Too bad it broke, but it really seems promising!
Great and honest review as always! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks dude, appreciate it
Great video as usual. Just wondering could you do a 4 wheel drive to rear wheel drive conversion on a sg1604. I've got one but I don't know what I am doing so would greatly appreciate a tutorial I could follow. Cheers
What a Excellent, Good wholesome honest review Phil ! 👌🏼
Corally have released some rather nice trucks of late, especially with this new Skeeter & the 2022 kronos XTR ….. Both are certainly looking rather tempting tbh, being extremely well put together with some HD components.
Totally agree with your thoughts of tweaking the suspension & pinion upgrade,
I think these tweaks will help the trucks performance quite noticeably.
Looking forward to the next video 🙂
Stay Safe Phil 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I don’t know about that name lol. Hey what happened to your cool watermark I saw it in one video then it has been gone since. Or am I mistaken.
Watermark is still there I think
hey Tommy I need your help. I want to know what I should buy? on road or offroad.which is better in the long run and less boring?
Probably the weight making it harder to control in the air, couldn't tell if the tires ballooning much which may also be a factor if they don't balloon, time to gear it up me thinks 😂😂, with Arrma not having any 4s cars there is a huge hole in the market and have been looking at these, wonder how it would fair in the hands of Jack and Callum with some big sends
arrma actually make a 4s kraton and outcast but have been discontinued unfortunately
It’s nose heavy… but as far as build quality, I’m sure it will take some decent abuse.
@@house_of_carnage I have the Outcast 4s - Arrma 4s cars have not been on sale for nearly 2 years now, the new ones were supposed to be released early 2021, and are now supposed to be released summer 2022, as i said Arrma dont have any 4s cars
@@HardcoreRC ye
@@TomleyRC Indeed, does look like its built like a tank, also eyeing up the XTR 2022. Need something to buy other than Arrma with their price increases
Hope they sent you the Kronos I wanna see that one get sent 👍
I hope so too!
@@TomleyRC what ? They had to have sent you the Kronos as well to review, you sneaky devil 😝
@@bubblesrcshed I don’t know…hoping it turns up on my door though 👌
@@TomleyRC well the Kronos is their “Beefy” basher so maybe their sending that model to RUclips’ers that send it to the moon for testing, considering last years model people weren’t to happy with.
Listen for the doorbell hope it lands 👍
Can you do a review of the new Team Associated MT8?
Hopefully… once they arrive in the UK 👌
I'd like to know if either yourself or Kev has / had or planning on ever getting a Custom "BIGGOOT*? Iv seen petrol and lipo versions. And they look beasty as hell.
Seems decent. Since going to the Outcast 8s, I don't think I'll be going for anything smaller. I'm not one for backflips and all that. Bigger air...yes, but not stunts.
At some point I'll get another large scale. I won't be getting a Traxxas though. I don't care if the Xmaxx is the best RC...it's still Traxxas
Why the hate? It's been proven the xmaxx is the best large scale rc
@@nothingmedia8629 Best for some things, but not the best in all respects. I personally don't like Traxxas. Not saying they have bad products, but the company itself.
@@Vaterraman Yes I agree with you. My next rc wil probably be arrma as Traxxas is a very mean company and they sue other companies for no reason. The outcast 8s looks like it can be a beast with a few upgrades
Was drinking coffee and almost spit it out at that ex-GF comment! Hilarious Phil, keep it up
What's the best monster trucks for bashing the team associated mt10 or the new maxx v2
I forgot to mention I broke this bit. Oh and this bit is cracked. You BROKE it!!!
I think everyone but KT got the Team Corally care package.
For me a basher should do easy backflips and not be heavy as a rock. But a lot of people will just run it around on an open grass field it will be OK for that. I like to spend more air time than on ground 😄
Yeah, a bit of tuning and maybe even 6s will sort that out 😅
Ooh well you can alwas fix it or modify it🤔
Cheap Fix
Yeah i suppose
Nice truck!! I quite like the fact that it's a bit fugly, as I wouldn't be so disappointed if I smashed the shell up!! Shame about the breakage, but great it's easy to get the parts at such a reasonable price!! It'll be interesting to see what aftermarket upgrades come for it 😎👍🏻
For the price point and performance I'd still have a 3s Typhon over that. Corally is very inconsistent
How bout Typhon or Big Rock?
@@GinjaNinja77 Typhon I don't like the big rock much
Don’t get me wrong i have a few TC, however i really think they can be priced slightly better, that’s my only beef with them. I honestly think it should come in closer to $399.99-429.99. Just my 2 cents. I think a lot more people would buy it then 😉👍🏼💯
I think it’s priced pretty fair if you look at the competition
HI SIR IN ENGLAND MINE COST ME £400 WHICH IS 542 DOLLARS. ☹️🇬🇧🇺🇸🕊️✌️👍
@@mikebird8290 we are addressing youtubers who have them for free - that bias is denied all the time, in spite of however the spin. There should be more transparency e.g. RC companies should just demand their cars back after review - afterall the views these videos get should be payment enough - and they should know which channels have the critical mass of viewers
To make back the cost of the truck would be around 200k views… and then add the hrs it takes to film and edit.. add another 50-100k or so of views. This video at the most will get about 20-30k views which would work out at about $100. Your theory is wrong, if this was a normal day job, I’d be working at a loss if I had to send the product back 👍 It’s up to you to decide if you think the reviewer is being transparent and honest. All I’ll say is that Horizon Hobby don’t send me anything anymore 🤷🏼♂️… I wonder why
@@TomleyRC PHIL BUDDY YOU HAVEN'T DONE AS WELL AS YOU HAVE OR HAVE AS MANY LOYAL SUBS FOR TALKING 💩SIR.
I SALUTE YOU SIR 🇬🇧✌️.
I've NEVER ONCE THOUGHT ANY OF YOUR VIDEOS WAS ANYTHING BUT YOUR HONEST OPINION. I ALSO DON'T THINK U SHOULD HAVE TO SEND REVIEW ITEMS BACK.🇬🇧👍✌️
Corally Haters...
Traxxas = ESC Blows 🙂
Arrma = Chassis Bends 🙂
Corally = Arm Breaks 🤯🤬💩
🤣 It does seem that way.
I've had a few breaks on my Corally Kronos but no more than the X Maxx or the Kraton have. My Granite holds up pretty good though, I suppose that's more to do with it being a smaller lighter car though.
Great name for rc
What a brilliant beasts of a truck bud and once again a brilliant video a shame you broke it again anyway easy build to fix it right again 😀👍
If you turn up the punch it’s apparently better for in air control, obviously not quite so good for the drivetrain, but with those landings, the drivetrain is probably the least of your worries 🤣😂🤣
Corally are creeping right up arrmas chuffer with their rigs 😂
Is there oil in the shocks?! It has a huge rebound on landings. Fun run vid 🤘🏼
Great vid, see more plastic parts breaking this time of the year and that's probably as hard as I have seen you bash anything on that grass 😛. A 15t seems a good sweet spot on gearing from all the US vids I have seen. It's not really a stunt truck out the box it needs some bigger tyres that will balloon up more to help with rotation in the air.
Maybe some backflip 3.8 LP or similar
Did you say "let's take a wheel off"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
im prety sure thats the same transmitter as the redy to run absima buggy and its trash. mine started clicking on the first go but realy nice vid. ps i also had that ratalling
cool rc and awesome review brother
Cheers dude
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but it looks like it recoils from landings awkwardly. Sure driving could be part of it but I saw some decent landings that should have been absorbed and it rebounded like a basketball. Good video.
Sketer ha! That thing just skeeted all over! It even skeeted while doing a backflip! skeet skeet!
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first toy And first broken bad day bad time do not worry MR Tomely just plastic you can fixed But i still l😘ve your channal And your some fun comments l😂l Great video my dude cheers🍺
Thanks dude... yeah, cheap fix luckily
Cool I have the first FTX in USA 🇺🇸. On the way :). Outback.
Your backflips needs some work but you got the cartwheels nailed consistently, good job
Very nice 🙏🥰
Ayyyy no time no see
More cracking driving lol😂never seen so many crashes in a short space of time
The transmitter is a rebranded absima one
Kelvin talbot be like...hehehehe game over ...
“She looked much worse than this 😅”😂
Let mister Talbot drive it🤣
😅
That's actually impressive 🤔 watch out traxxas?? 👊
I have a feeling a lot more will break at the skate park, it didn’t look like you were abusing it to me . They definitely might have some issues to address.
I’m pretty sure it was just a bad landing. Next video will be at the skate park 👍
Think I will stick to my Maxx V2!
You had quite a lot of terrible landings so I'm not surprised that you broke it 😂😂😂.
nice
Cool bro 👍
300$ more than the TA MT10 ... it's almost double the price , you can get a 6S Arrma for that price .
Doesn't land to well. Maybe some better shock tuning
That was crappy driving for sure 🤣any car could have broke from that or any of those hits it survived 🤣
I do not disagree haha
transmitter is a rebranded absima one
I will stay Tommy if you change it pinion to a 15 tooth u will need a fan for the motor mine getting hot ever since I change mine an it not that much faster I would start by turning up punch setting
5 strengthened spots on chassis brace, I think it's too much...
Bad pvc in cold weather.
I love mine
Nice!
This or Armma vortex?
This
Soo with all the reviews . When are we gona see a limited edition tomly rc design car created for your merch....lol
link to lipo ? not easy to get in the UK looks like BG the only place
In the description. They have a UK Warehouse
@@TomleyRC Thanks
What the hell were they thinking when they designed that shell, looks like its hit a wall again and again lol
These or mt8 whats best
Hi
Hi
Great video .. that body does look horrible though .
Yeah, it’s not the best looking MT on the market 😅
That name though 🤣 OK, spelt with a double e in the urban dictionary but sounds the same.
Yeah… but anyone can put something in the Urban dictionary. Look up ‘Banalloy’
Hasn't Kev allready done a review on this one????
Every episode keeps getting better, and you keep getting funnier!
With Vin Diesel, Barbi, Mario and your ugly girlfriend from this episode, I find myself laughing so much I have to pause the video so I don’t miss anything.
You are the best!
Not the landing...hit that lip on the trait