This might be the best turkey ammo review I’ve ever seen. The one consistency I see between all the turkey ammo review videos is that magnum blend and long-beard XR are the top dogs.
For as long as I’ve hunted turkey, I’ve used 2 3/4” 12 gauge 4,5, or 6 shot lead pheasant loads for turkey and they’ve worked just fine. Call them within 30 yards and you don’t need tungsten, copper plated, etc. More than half the fun is calling them in close.
That's what my uncle's and grandpa taught me to use rem long range 2 3/4 1 1/4 oz 4,5,6 and have used them for years don't need a 10 dollar shell to kill a turkey
Best comparison video on the web. Thanks for putting the time, energy and $ into this. I just bought a mossberg 835 and was unsure about what ammo to try.
By far the best head to head comparison I’ve seen to date. If nothing else it shows there ain’t much difference from shell to shell in modern turkey ammo but the added amount of shot per shell you get by going to a tss load all the while gaining or at minimum equaling the load weight of comparable lead or heavier then lead/tungsten alloys, definitely isn’t a gimmick. Not to mention that tss really shines in the smaller gauges like 20ga and 410 bore. It now gives youth hunters, smaller women hunters and or handicapped hunters a viable option for recoil management as compared to 3” or 3.5” 12ga magnums that most hunters considered mandatory to ethically kill a long beard prior. They can now shoot smaller bore shotguns and confidently make kills out to 40 yards easily never noticing or thinking about what punishment awaits that trigger pull and where as they might otherwise become gun shy or worse, give turkey hunting/shooting firearms up completely, they now can add to our tradition and keep the sport alive and growing. I gotta ask. How do u like the tss from Federal. Is it worth it. I shoot a Benelli SBE2 and usually shoot Magnum Blend 3.5” shells. Should I try the stuff
Great evaluation. May I suggest a change for the next test, standardize the target if possible. The orange caldwell target doesn't exaggerate the hits the same way the black back targets do. All in all the best turkey ammo test out there.
Great video!! My son & I watched it and found it very useful. His 8 yrs old and in a few weeks will hunt for first time. Keep the videos coming brother!
Excellent review PERIOD. Totally objective from beginning to end. Have experimented with the same ammo and leadsled combination myself although with a TC ProHunter 20ga. Max range for me was out to 40 yards. Same results ………. I have elected to stick with the Longbeard, they flat out work. Keep up the great work.
You hit the nail on the head with 3rd Degree! I said it was good for a beginner keeping thier shots definitely under 40 yrds!! Truth it is brother! Good job!
Thanks Michael. Stay tuned I will be posting extensive results of round two only this time in 20 Ga. Longbeard Xr, Apex, and federal tss and possibly others.
Great video Caleb! I'm a Winchester Longbeard guy myself (3 1/2" #5's). I might get a box of 3rd degree just for the #spurtape :) Good luck this year bub!
Fantastic video. The discussion seems to always head down the path of "every gun is different". But they aren't that different and a good shell is a good shell for the most part. It's great to be able to learn from a video like this and save some money as well as shoulder meat. Thank you!
Very good info and video! I shoot a Stoeger m3000, what I'm doing this year is keeping a 3rd degree Chambered and tss ghost loaded on the shell lifter. If a bird hangs up past 40 all I have to do is slowly reach up and eject the 3rd degree and the tss is ready to quietly hop in and go to work
I was mostly interested in the federal tss load. I've patterned most of the others except the 3rd degree. I always like to see what someone else is shooting and the results they are getting. My son and I have killed alot of gobblers with rhe magblends until I started with a friends handloaded tss in 12& 20ga. Wicked stuff for sure. Also enjoyed your recent hunt too. Have a great season!
Great review but there is one thing that I would add. Pattern density is important of course but it is only half the story. You also need penetration. I don't care what you do to lead shot to make it pattern better it still penetrates like lead. The Longbeard shells are a really neat innovation that out pattern any lead shells I have ever seen. But even if a Longbeard number 6 will throw an acceptable pattern to 50 yards or further that doesn't mean I would trust a lead 6 pellet to consistently penetrate deep enough at those distances. That is where TSS shot shines. Not only will it give you the pattern density at those distances but it will still just absolutely shred a turkeys head and neck as well.
Great review/comparison. I have used the longbeard for several years but since I don't get many days to hunt, I am switching to the heavy loads to get a few extra yards past my normal 40 yrd limit. This gave me a real side by side without the investment or bruises.
Very impressed 👏 on your comparison. After this snow ❄ breaks here in Pennsylvania I need do same have test new shotguns groups yet. I know my mossberg 500 long barrel shoot high with #4 shot turkey and hevie-shot #6
One of the best reviews. And the only critique would of made this perfect,would of been using the same target for all the loads. Damn, good job brother.
Thx for doing this! Great info. I think a standard non choke barrel with these loads compared to same loads through a choke would be a cool video. Grandpas old break open vs modern mossberg shoot out...
Very good 👍 the best video I've seen on turkey loads. Thank you for taking the time and money to test. I usually use Winchester #5 but picked up a box of 3" #9 TSS. Illinois just drop the minimum shot size from #7.5 to any. As long as it's #4 or smaller.
I’ve patterned most of those with the same results! I’m shooting a 835, 24” barrel, sumtoy .675 choke, Williams fire sights, libsaver recoil pad shooting the longbeard 3.5” #4’ ..... its RIDICULOUS!!!!
Had to sub after watching this review! Best by far that I have watched. Have to try this in the Mossberg 930 that I have just won. Don’t know much about shotguns but this one came with 4 chokes, one is a turkey choke, and also won a Kicks High Flyer choke too!
That ole mossberg is a keeper for sure. I’ve patterned a lot of shotguns and shot a lot of shotgun still target competitions and most all shotguns are like shooting a sloppy shooting rifle, most of the times you get groups that are up down right and left but that Mossberg is dead on all the time. Great job and keep the videos coming please.
Very interesting video comparison. It really makes me feel good about the Indian creek choke for my 1187 and longbeard xr ammo I just picked up. Plan on getting out and patterning it soon.
Ill tell you what! Winchester has it figured out with there ammo.especily turkey loads.ive been turkey hunting for over 20 years & sure seen the ammo improve over the years.ive shot a couple other brands thru the years but the past 6 years winchester is the only shell i will put in my shotgun for deer & turkey.thanks for the video.great stuff!
That was OUTSTANDING With out a doubt one of the best done videos I have ever seen on RUclips. Thank you for a extremely well done and very informative video.
One of the best turkey ammo reviews I have seen on RUclips so far. Great job and keep up the good work. Good luck this spring! Oh and I do like me that Longbeard XR! My only criticism would be that you should have done one shot in the 5-10 yard range. It's the one range where the I think the Longbeard looses a step to loads like the 3rd Degree. Great job again.
I really appreciate this review. I just started Turkey hunting and Im using the new 3rd degree ammo. Im gonna have to try some of that other ammo. Thanks for this video.
Great review! I spent $100’s on ammo and bought just about every load available on the market back in the mid 90’s to try out of my 10 gauge. Every load that patterned best are long discontinued. Remington 2 1/4 oz #6’s outshot every target you tried with a Cheap jelly head Choke. Imagine all three of your longbeard groups Packed together ...that what it looked like at 40 yards in my gun with the Remington 6’s! Pretty depressing as it’s been discontinued for approx 20 years. I’ve resorted to federal grand slam and Winchester 2oz #5’s. Both have killed turkeys out to 87 yards but the groups are not nearly impressive. I picked up a patternmaster.695” the other day and will have to retest the half a dozen option left on the market and probably start reloading my my obsolete 10 gauge browning turkey gun.
I love my 10 have to reload shells are cheaper to make than buy. Hint if you use liquid alox to your 6s your pattern tightens up to 20 inch spread at 70 . Now that's just for birds that are to old n smart
@@charlessmith7649 I loaded up some 3 oz #5’s with 45 grains of lil gun and patterned the other day. I had 87 hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards. Wasn’t impressed with the code black turkey tube and the load. I might have to load a few more and try with a more open choke.
@@tripplebeards3427 it holds the shot together like drop or two per 1 1/2 oz shot . It works great expecialy with buck shot but even better with small shot number 5 /4 just a messy process but tightens groups up substantial
Old 20 gauge single my dad bought me when I was 10, 55 years ago. Changed the butt stock to adult size. Remington 20 gauge #6 Pheasant load $6.00 a box of 25 1220 fps. 1 ounce of lead, plenty if your sighted in. Hunting for $150.00 or less. All the rest is sales and profit margin.
I shoot a Remington 11-87 Shurshot sportsman 12 gauge with the Remington wing master HD choke provided . I got the gun when they first came out and did my own testing at 40 yards with the Magnum blend 3.5 inch, hevi-13 in #4 and #5 3 inch, Remington wing master HD in 3.5 and 3 inch #4( load discontinued) I had enough shells to test and over the last ten plus years have shot almost all the rest killing many turkeys with all of them. Now after I initially shot the patterns I never tested again. It wasn't until years later a huge tom hung up and I didn't shoot because I thought it too far. The next morning it bugged me, so I shot the hevi-13 and magnum blend and wing master both 4s at 70 yards. The average was 3-4 hits with the wing master 3.5 4s, can't remember the count on the blend but it wasn't blowing me away and up to 9 killing hits with the Hevi-13 4s. My take from all this is my gun didn't pattern 3.5 inch shells any better than the 3's. The wing master was a deadly ass round, but the 3 inch Hevi did better than the Remi did with a 3.5. The 3.5 magnum blend is devastating and the pattern was good at 40, but get farther and it spread considerably. I don't know if I trust 7 shot at 70 yards if that's all that ends up hitting. But I like the Hevi 4s better at longer range they put them down with authority. I know there's newer stuff out there, but I just ordered a new batch of shells online...both boxes are Hevi-13 3 inch 4s they are wicked.
Get a Mossberg 835/935 with a Rhino choke and Nitro heavyshot 4/5/7 or Notro TSS and it’ll blow all them patterns away! But you got some good ens there, good video too!
the 3rd degree has a flight control wad and it needs a less constricting choke so it doesnt break apart under pressure at the end of the choke but im not hating still a very good review
The last 10 years I’ve been shooting Winchester longbeard 3 inch #6s in a Carlson longbeard choke at 40 yds it is devastating the longest range I’ve taken gobblers is 55 yds no problem I put a truglo gobble dot pro fully adjustable open site Shoot it like a rifle do your part dead bird❤️
Very good comparison video I’ve liked if you used the same target you used in the XP’s cuz they are waaaay better than those caldwell ones other than that those magnums and XP’s are bad with a capital B
Dude that is the best review on shot gun ammo I have seen yet but where you shot turkeys I shoot bob cats that are eating my chickens and the longest shot I have made yet is just over 40 yards with a 12 gauge with a 3 1/2" #4 though it still ran ten feet before dropping ...
Best patterning video I've watched. Comparing loads with different shot sizes and payloads may be a little misgiving when counting holes in paper but still a good comparison. I shoot the XR Longbeards 3" #5's. Remington 870 21" barrel with Indian Creek .665. This is one deadly combination!! Only thing I've ever liked better was Winchester Extended Range. Hated to see that go!!! Jus wondered if you have ever tried any Kent TK7 Penetrator loads??
This video is great. I say use what ammo & choke tube work best for you in a turkey hunting situation.. They all kill turkeys when used properly.. My Personal turkey hunting gun setup consist of a Remington Sp10 using Federal Mag Shok 10ga 2oz #5's with a Primo's JellyHead choke tube & it's light out devastating on turkey..
Pa Turkey Hunter I hear the browning 10 is solid after an aftermarket spring kit. I don't use the SP10 for turkey, I only bowhunt for them but the the 10 can bring the noise for geese!
PezMan I feel your pain.. I couldn't belive Remington discontinued the Sp10.. My Sp10 is deadly on Turkey's & I'm looking forward to using my new Browning Gold 10ga on geese this Sept season here in Pa.. Both shoot great..
Federal made the flite control flex wad in their black cloud duck and goose loads too and they work great. I had a chance to try em out this past duck and goose season here in TN.
You should be shooting the same targets for all. The longboards we're shot onto targets that have more paint chipping, and shows a lot more dense pattern. (Even though I am a fan of longboards)
I'll be honest...my Mossberg 935 with Longbeard XR choke tube, topped off with a Weaver Kasapa Turkey plex scope and Longbeard Xr 3 1/2" no. 5's shoot and pattern at 50 yards like yours does at 20 yards. I like em tight not opened up.
Have you tried the standard 20 gauge mag shok turkey? I picked some up because they were cheap and my longest shots are usually 35-40, looking for input
@@CalebRyan-TNCx I'm very intrested in the new federal TSS. I've taken birds out at 70 yd with the Winchester long beard XR but that number 9 shot seems like it would be very interesting
Honestly you should have a much better pattern than that with the TSS. If you opened your choke constriction up a little bit the TSS would do even better than what it did.
Just shot my bird yesterday with a 3” Winchester long beard xr #4 at 40-45 yards. Dropped him with no flop. (My choke is the win long beard from Winchester at .700 constriction) if you want to shoot #6 go with the .665 constriction.
Great video but since longbeards usually shoot different than other loads you may need to re-zero for all the rounds to get the most accurate results. Again great video.
Good informative video. Can’t beat the LongbeardXRs for the money. Before they came out, I shot Hevi simply because no lead load could throw a pattern half as good. If a person wants to shoot lead, shoot LongbeardXRs or nothing! I test as much as I can. Base most of my comparisons at 40 yards counting hits in a 10” and 20” circle. I still shoot Hevi because the numbers are almost identical to LongbeardXR numbers in the same shot size. I’m curious if you’ve tested any out of a Mossberg 835 or 935? Some say they throw better patterns out of their overbored barrels and I’m inclined to believe it. Automatics seem to pattern better than their pump counterparts, wondering if you have seen anything to confirm or conflict. Also, have you tested any of the new Apex tungsten loads?
That's 1.2 mill in tss and other ammo lol cool video I picked of a case for cheap of earlier 2000s may be even 98 99 of Remington nitro turkey 3" and its ok at 40 and less over 100 in 10" at 35 yards with mossberg full accusteel extended choke 930.....But I'm gonna go long beard in my 935 with the choke you have.
Hands down best turkey ammo review I’ve seen on RUclips. Very unbiased for all brands. Excellent job
Thank you brother. Hope it helps
They need to make longbeard xr faster like 1300 fps @TheNaturalCalling
This might be the best turkey ammo review I’ve ever seen. The one consistency I see between all the turkey ammo review videos is that magnum blend and long-beard XR are the top dogs.
By far the best patterning video out there. Properly done
For as long as I’ve hunted turkey, I’ve used 2 3/4” 12 gauge 4,5, or 6 shot lead pheasant loads for turkey and they’ve worked just fine. Call them within 30 yards and you don’t need tungsten, copper plated, etc. More than half the fun is calling them in close.
Exactly. Hearing that gobble come closer is the whole reason I’m there. Let them come in close.
That's what my uncle's and grandpa taught me to use rem long range 2 3/4 1 1/4 oz 4,5,6 and have used them for years don't need a 10 dollar shell to kill a turkey
You’ve got that right. Call em in close and shoot straight. Don’t rely on a $10 shell to make up for lack of hunting skill and marksmenship.
YOU MUST HAVE 100% DUMB BIRDS SOME GET HUNG UP AT40 -50 YDS. THEN WHAT? HAND GRENADES!!!
You did a great job on the review. Best I have seen on ammo review turkey loads.
Fantastic video. Did a great job of not only comparing shells but stressing the importance of doing this yourself.
Best shotgun shell comparison I’ve seen. Must have cost you a fortune!!
Best comparison video on the web. Thanks for putting the time, energy and $ into this. I just bought a mossberg 835 and was unsure about what ammo to try.
Me too, 6 years later lol
I am impressed with the Longbeard XR on this video. Great video!!
By far the best head to head comparison I’ve seen to date. If nothing else it shows there ain’t much difference from shell to shell in modern turkey ammo but the added amount of shot per shell you get by going to a tss load all the while gaining or at minimum equaling the load weight of comparable lead or heavier then lead/tungsten alloys, definitely isn’t a gimmick. Not to mention that tss really shines in the smaller gauges like 20ga and 410 bore. It now gives youth hunters, smaller women hunters and or handicapped hunters a viable option for recoil management as compared to 3” or 3.5” 12ga magnums that most hunters considered mandatory to ethically kill a long beard prior. They can now shoot smaller bore shotguns and confidently make kills out to 40 yards easily never noticing or thinking about what punishment awaits that trigger pull and where as they might otherwise become gun shy or worse, give turkey hunting/shooting firearms up completely, they now can add to our tradition and keep the sport alive and growing. I gotta ask. How do u like the tss from Federal. Is it worth it. I shoot a Benelli SBE2 and usually shoot Magnum Blend 3.5” shells. Should I try the stuff
George Cesarini agree with you 100% about the TSS. Its a good thing if people use it correctly. Overall the Federal TSS did well. I would recommend.
Great evaluation. May I suggest a change for the next test, standardize the target if possible. The orange caldwell target doesn't exaggerate the hits the same way the black back targets do. All in all the best turkey ammo test out there.
klappy803 I agree
Yes you kept everything else the same. Once again great video
Great video!! My son & I watched it and found it very useful. His 8 yrs old and in a few weeks will hunt for first time. Keep the videos coming brother!
How did your son make out last year?
Best turkey load review I've seen
Excellent video on the performance of today’s offerings in turkey shot!
Amazing content, I see it's a little older I'm headed to your page to see what's new. Good review 👍
Excellent review PERIOD. Totally objective from beginning to end. Have experimented with the same ammo and leadsled combination myself although with a TC ProHunter 20ga. Max range for me was out to 40 yards. Same results ………. I have elected to stick with the Longbeard, they flat out work. Keep up the great work.
RIP to this man's shoulder
Nah. He has it lead sledded. He be aight! 😂
You hit the nail on the head with 3rd Degree! I said it was good for a beginner keeping thier shots definitely under 40 yrds!! Truth it is brother! Good job!
Thanks Michael. Stay tuned I will be posting extensive results of round two only this time in 20 Ga. Longbeard Xr, Apex, and federal tss and possibly others.
Thanks for taking the time and also spending the money for this video! I know most won't think of it the same way but I know because I have a channel!
Great video Caleb! I'm a Winchester Longbeard guy myself (3 1/2" #5's). I might get a box of 3rd degree just for the #spurtape :) Good luck this year bub!
Fantastic video. The discussion seems to always head down the path of "every gun is different". But they aren't that different and a good shell is a good shell for the most part. It's great to be able to learn from a video like this and save some money as well as shoulder meat. Thank you!
Very good info and video! I shoot a Stoeger m3000, what I'm doing this year is keeping a 3rd degree Chambered and tss ghost loaded on the shell lifter. If a bird hangs up past 40 all I have to do is slowly reach up and eject the 3rd degree and the tss is ready to quietly hop in and go to work
Prepping for my first shot at bagging a turkey, very informative and well put together video. Thanks man!
The best turkey ammo comparison by far. Kudos for including the premium ammo vs the basic lead loads vs longbeards.
Trky Hntr hope it was helpful in some way.
I was mostly interested in the federal tss load. I've patterned most of the others except the 3rd degree. I always like to see what someone else is shooting and the results they are getting.
My son and I have killed alot of gobblers with rhe magblends until I started with a friends handloaded tss in 12& 20ga. Wicked stuff for sure. Also enjoyed your recent hunt too. Have a great season!
Trky Hntr well stay tuned im uploading some hunts within the next few days of putting the federal tss to use.
Looking forward to it!
Great review but there is one thing that I would add. Pattern density is important of course but it is only half the story. You also need penetration. I don't care what you do to lead shot to make it pattern better it still penetrates like lead. The Longbeard shells are a really neat innovation that out pattern any lead shells I have ever seen. But even if a Longbeard number 6 will throw an acceptable pattern to 50 yards or further that doesn't mean I would trust a lead 6 pellet to consistently penetrate deep enough at those distances. That is where TSS shot shines. Not only will it give you the pattern density at those distances but it will still just absolutely shred a turkeys head and neck as well.
Awesome!! I love long beard just wish they would make them for the 10ga.thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Eric Platt they do or at least they did I got some my dad gave me and there still killing turkeys
Great review/comparison. I have used the longbeard for several years but since I don't get many days to hunt, I am switching to the heavy loads to get a few extra yards past my normal 40 yrd limit. This gave me a real side by side without the investment or bruises.
Very impressed 👏 on your comparison. After this snow ❄ breaks here in Pennsylvania I need do same have test new shotguns groups yet. I know my mossberg 500 long barrel shoot high with #4 shot turkey and hevie-shot #6
Great job on getting all that ammo
Lucky to find one brand of ammo here
This video is from 2018
One of the best reviews. And the only critique would of made this perfect,would of been using the same target for all the loads. Damn, good job brother.
Thank you and thanks for watching. Hope it helps. New ammo reviews have been uploaded. Check them out if interested.
Best turkey ammo video on RUclips period ! Thank you for sacrificing your shoulder and wallet to bring us that! Wow!
Thx for doing this! Great info. I think a standard non choke barrel with these loads compared to same loads through a choke would be a cool video. Grandpas old break open vs modern mossberg shoot out...
Very good 👍 the best video I've seen on turkey loads. Thank you for taking the time and money to test. I usually use Winchester #5 but picked up a box of 3" #9 TSS. Illinois just drop the minimum shot size from #7.5 to any. As long as it's #4 or smaller.
The greatest comparison video on RUclips.
Very informative video, lots of time and money making this - much appreciated…
When I saw that stack of great turkey loads I KNEW I was in the right place!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve patterned most of those with the same results! I’m shooting a 835, 24” barrel, sumtoy .675 choke, Williams fire sights, libsaver recoil pad shooting the longbeard 3.5” #4’ ..... its RIDICULOUS!!!!
Nice review. Was glad to see test at longer ranges. I used to test my 1187 Turkey gun at 50 yards. Your gun/choke combo shoots very well.
Had to sub after watching this review! Best by far that I have watched. Have to try this in the Mossberg 930 that I have just won. Don’t know much about shotguns but this one came with 4 chokes, one is a turkey choke, and also won a Kicks High Flyer choke too!
How did the gun fare for you? What setup did you use?
That ole mossberg is a keeper for sure. I’ve patterned a lot of shotguns and shot a lot of shotgun still target competitions and most all shotguns are like shooting a sloppy shooting rifle, most of the times you get groups that are up down right and left but that Mossberg is dead on all the time. Great job and keep the videos coming please.
Excellent pattern video. Maybe best I've seen. Wish I could get my hands on that kind of ammo now.
Great video, I'm going to have to pick up some #7 TSS to try, we can't use number 9 in Ontario
Very interesting video comparison. It really makes me feel good about the Indian creek choke for my 1187 and longbeard xr ammo I just picked up. Plan on getting out and patterning it soon.
Thanks brother. Keep an eye on your poa. The pattern will be tight, no doubt. Good luck!
How did it pattern? Any luck in the woods?
Hevi shot #6 3" here in a beretta 26" barrel, does the trick every time even out to 60yards.
how much did that gun cost you I might get one for next yr?
Ill tell you what! Winchester has it figured out with there ammo.especily turkey loads.ive been turkey hunting for over 20 years & sure seen the ammo improve over the years.ive shot a couple other brands thru the years but the past 6 years winchester is the only shell i will put in my shotgun for deer & turkey.thanks for the video.great stuff!
Great information and thanks for taking the time and also your expense to compare these loads! Good hunting this Spring!!!
That was OUTSTANDING
With out a doubt one of the best done videos I have ever seen on RUclips. Thank you for a extremely well done and very informative video.
Thank you! More to come. Stay tuned
One of the best turkey ammo reviews I have seen on RUclips so far. Great job and keep up the good work. Good luck this spring! Oh and I do like me that Longbeard XR! My only criticism would be that you should have done one shot in the 5-10 yard range. It's the one range where the I think the Longbeard looses a step to loads like the 3rd Degree. Great job again.
Body Shot.
Why would you ever let a gobbler get that close. 10-15 yds. Maybe in a blind with a bow but not a shot gun
Great video! You diffently broke the bank on this review,thanks brother! I love the LRs
Best turkey ammo review ever! Well done!
Good review. Best one I've been able to find. Thanks
Very comprehensive review. Nicely done!
I really appreciate this review. I just started Turkey hunting and Im using the new 3rd degree ammo. Im gonna have to try some of that other ammo. Thanks for this video.
Did you try something different? How did it go?
Great job man i like the idea behind that tss
Nice, informative, fairly unbiased. Thanks much!
Awesome video, heavyweight, heavy shot, and tss give better patterns in 680 choke range....
Great review! I spent $100’s on ammo and bought just about every load available on the market back in the mid 90’s to try out of my 10 gauge. Every load that patterned best are long discontinued. Remington 2 1/4 oz #6’s outshot every target you tried with a Cheap jelly head Choke. Imagine all three of your longbeard groups Packed together ...that what it looked like at 40 yards in my gun with the Remington 6’s! Pretty depressing as it’s been discontinued for approx 20 years. I’ve resorted to federal grand slam and Winchester 2oz #5’s. Both have killed turkeys out to 87 yards but the groups are not nearly impressive. I picked up a patternmaster.695” the other day and will have to retest the half a dozen option left on the market and probably start reloading my my obsolete 10 gauge browning turkey gun.
I love my 10 have to reload shells are cheaper to make than buy. Hint if you use liquid alox to your 6s your pattern tightens up to 20 inch spread at 70 . Now that's just for birds that are to old n smart
@@charlessmith7649 I loaded up some 3 oz #5’s with 45 grains of lil gun and patterned the other day. I had 87 hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards. Wasn’t impressed with the code black turkey tube and the load. I might have to load a few more and try with a more open choke.
@@tripplebeards3427 keep trying chokes and maybe a lil liquid alox
@@charlessmith7649 what does the alox do? I have a few bottles laying round I never used from my.lee sizers
@@tripplebeards3427 it holds the shot together like drop or two per 1 1/2 oz shot . It works great expecialy with buck shot but even better with small shot number 5 /4 just a messy process but tightens groups up substantial
Mossberg 500. Undertaker choke. NitroTurkey/SuperX/DoubleX/longboard XR all have taken birds for me out to 40 yds :). Good video! Thx!
This was enlightening, thank you!
Great review and can’t wait for the season to start already!
Old 20 gauge single my dad bought me when I was 10, 55 years ago. Changed the butt stock to adult size. Remington 20 gauge #6 Pheasant load $6.00 a box of 25 1220 fps. 1 ounce of lead, plenty if your sighted in. Hunting for $150.00 or less. All the rest is sales and profit margin.
I shoot a Remington 11-87 Shurshot sportsman 12 gauge with the Remington wing master HD choke provided . I got the gun when they first came out and did my own testing at 40 yards with the Magnum blend 3.5 inch, hevi-13 in #4 and #5 3 inch, Remington wing master HD in 3.5 and 3 inch #4( load discontinued) I had enough shells to test and over the last ten plus years have shot almost all the rest killing many turkeys with all of them. Now after I initially shot the patterns I never tested again. It wasn't until years later a huge tom hung up and I didn't shoot because I thought it too far. The next morning it bugged me, so I shot the hevi-13 and magnum blend and wing master both 4s at 70 yards. The average was 3-4 hits with the wing master 3.5 4s, can't remember the count on the blend but it wasn't blowing me away and up to 9 killing hits with the Hevi-13 4s. My take from all this is my gun didn't pattern 3.5 inch shells any better than the 3's. The wing master was a deadly ass round, but the 3 inch Hevi did better than the Remi did with a 3.5. The 3.5 magnum blend is devastating and the pattern was good at 40, but get farther and it spread considerably. I don't know if I trust 7 shot at 70 yards if that's all that ends up hitting. But I like the Hevi 4s better at longer range they put them down with authority. I know there's newer stuff out there, but I just ordered a new batch of shells online...both boxes are Hevi-13 3 inch 4s they are wicked.
Ain't nothing like them gobblers!!!!! Great video bud!!!
Get a Mossberg 835/935 with a Rhino choke and Nitro heavyshot 4/5/7 or Notro TSS and it’ll blow all them patterns away! But you got some good ens there, good video too!
the 3rd degree has a flight control wad and it needs a less constricting choke so it doesnt break apart under pressure at the end of the choke but im not hating still a very good review
I like those Longbeards a lot. But I may put a TSS in the barrel for my Florida trip this coming spring. Hope I get a gift card for Christmas.
Good demo on various shotgun rounds.
The last 10 years I’ve been shooting Winchester longbeard 3 inch #6s in a Carlson longbeard choke at 40 yds it is devastating the longest range I’ve taken gobblers is 55 yds no problem I put a truglo gobble dot pro fully adjustable open site Shoot it like a rifle do your part dead bird❤️
That was a great bit of info!
Very good comparison video I’ve liked if you used the same target you used in the XP’s cuz they are waaaay better than those caldwell ones other than that those magnums and XP’s are bad with a capital B
Dude that is the best review on shot gun ammo I have seen yet but where you shot turkeys I shoot bob cats that are eating my chickens and the longest shot I have made yet is just over 40 yards with a 12 gauge with a 3 1/2" #4 though it still ran ten feet before dropping ...
Holy f that first shot almost made me spit my drink out
Best patterning video I've watched. Comparing loads with different shot sizes and payloads may be a little misgiving when counting holes in paper but still a good comparison. I shoot the XR Longbeards 3" #5's. Remington 870 21" barrel with Indian Creek .665. This is one deadly combination!! Only thing I've ever liked better was Winchester Extended Range. Hated to see that go!!! Jus wondered if you have ever tried any Kent TK7 Penetrator loads??
Great video, thank you. What re3d dot do you use? What scope would you recommend?
Burris FF3. Thanks 4 watching.
This video is great. I say use what ammo & choke tube work best for you in a turkey hunting situation.. They all kill turkeys when used properly.. My Personal turkey hunting gun setup consist of a Remington Sp10 using Federal Mag Shok 10ga 2oz #5's with a Primo's JellyHead choke tube & it's light out devastating on turkey..
Was very sad when the SP10 went out of production
PezMan I feel your pain that is exactly why I ordered a Browning Gold 10 to take its place if anything ever should happen
Pa Turkey Hunter I hear the browning 10 is solid after an aftermarket spring kit. I don't use the SP10 for turkey, I only bowhunt for them but the the 10 can bring the noise for geese!
PezMan I feel your pain.. I couldn't belive Remington discontinued the Sp10.. My Sp10 is deadly on Turkey's & I'm looking forward to using my new Browning Gold 10ga on geese this Sept season here in Pa.. Both shoot great..
Thanks for the great video...unfortunately here in California there is no lead allowed...definitely narrows the choices down
Federal made the flite control flex wad in their black cloud duck and goose loads too and they work great. I had a chance to try em out this past duck and goose season here in TN.
You should be shooting the same targets for all. The longboards we're shot onto targets that have more paint chipping, and shows a lot more dense pattern. (Even though I am a fan of longboards)
I agree with Cody Harper. Outstanding review.
I'll be honest...my Mossberg 935 with Longbeard XR choke tube, topped off with a Weaver Kasapa Turkey plex scope and Longbeard Xr 3 1/2" no. 5's shoot and pattern at 50 yards like yours does at 20 yards. I like em tight not opened up.
Great video I loved the federal heavyweights in 20 guage hate they discontinued them in favor of the tss. The long beards do well also.
Kevin Burnett yes, very sad to see the HW7 go.
Have you patterned any of the federal TSs in 20 guage? Would love to see a video of it. Thanks again.
Kevin Burnett have not had the oppurtunity to shoot the fed tss 20 yet. Looking to make a video for 20 ga comparison soon!
Kevin Burnett You'll be ok buddy. The TSS is the superior load anyway.
Have you tried the standard 20 gauge mag shok turkey? I picked some up because they were cheap and my longest shots are usually 35-40, looking for input
An off topic question... Can you recommend a 3 dot scope for a Winchester SXP ??
Excellent review! 🦃 😀
Do you think the mossberg maverick 88 12gauge with a smooth bore barrel will be good for turkey hunting they only run around 200dollars
A great review. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks, Hopefully it's helpful! I recently uploaded another comparison video in 20 GA. on the channel if your interested.
@@CalebRyan-TNCx I'm very intrested in the new federal TSS. I've taken birds out at 70 yd with the Winchester long beard XR but that number 9 shot seems like it would be very interesting
Honestly you should have a much better pattern than that with the TSS. If you opened your choke constriction up a little bit the TSS would do even better than what it did.
Great video, nice job ! 👍
Are you shooting the factory full choke or do you have a special choke on this gun?
Nice. Be Hard to beat this video on Turkey loads nice job!
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Really good video. Thank you for this!
Just shot my bird yesterday with a 3” Winchester long beard xr #4 at 40-45 yards. Dropped him with no flop. (My choke is the win long beard from Winchester at .700 constriction) if you want to shoot #6 go with the .665 constriction.
Great video
I use long beard xr 3inch 12g number 5 and last season took a nice Tom at 60 yards
Great video but since longbeards usually shoot different than other loads you may need to re-zero for all the rounds to get the most accurate results. Again great video.
Very very good. Great job
Good informative video. Can’t beat the LongbeardXRs for the money. Before they came out, I shot Hevi simply because no lead load could throw a pattern half as good. If a person wants to shoot lead, shoot LongbeardXRs or nothing! I test as much as I can. Base most of my comparisons at 40 yards counting hits in a 10” and 20” circle. I still shoot Hevi because the numbers are almost identical to LongbeardXR numbers in the same shot size. I’m curious if you’ve tested any out of a Mossberg 835 or 935? Some say they throw better patterns out of their overbored barrels and I’m inclined to believe it. Automatics seem to pattern better than their pump counterparts, wondering if you have seen anything to confirm or conflict. Also, have you tested any of the new Apex tungsten loads?
Great video. If you do it again please use all the same targets.
I love what those 3 1/2 do but damn that kick like a son of a gun lol
Good video
Are you still shooting the 20ga great video
That's 1.2 mill in tss and other ammo lol cool video I picked of a case for cheap of earlier 2000s may be even 98 99 of Remington nitro turkey 3" and its ok at 40 and less over 100 in 10" at 35 yards with mossberg full accusteel extended choke 930.....But I'm gonna go long beard in my 935 with the choke you have.