US Okays Massive $6 Billion Tanks Sale To Poland I Can The Abrams Tank Counter Russia's T-14 Armata?
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2022
- Amid rising Russian threat to Europe’s security, the US is trying to bolster Poland’s defence capabilities. The US State Department has approved a $6 billion sale of M1 Abrams tanks and other weaponry to Poland. US Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, announced the planned sale of 250 Abrams battle tanks to Poland on February 18. The announcement in Warsaw came amid Poland’s concerns over mobilisation of thousands of Russian troops in Belarus. US M1A2 Abrams vs Russian T-14 Armata: Which Is Superior?
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You can squarble for days about this. But one thing is abundantly clear America has the gear, money, and expertise to fight a prolonged campaign. Not sure the same can be said for the Russian Federation.
Your ignorance is on total display for the World. Putin a spy? Not in this lifetime. Putin is a lawyer.
Did he work for the KGB in East Germany? Yes 100%, in the legal department. You should fire all of your lazy reporters.
@@Papi1960R Thank You comrade. Your service to mother country is very telling.
@@THLLS-ej2tq They share a border with the country they're attacking, and another border through a strong ally. They have massive air superiority. They control all of the sea-ports and maritime access. Ukraine is totally cut off from 3 sides, about to be 4. They're running low on ammunition. Russia still has thousands of tanks to throw at the problem and more than half of it's deployed troops have not even gone into Ukraine yet. The capital city is already under siege. The Ukrainian President has declared martial law and forced civilians to fight for him, civilians who were trying to flee with their families. The Ukrainian Army is scattered and pinned down all over the country, all it can do is stay in its trenches and fire Stingers and Javelins, which they are quickly running out of.
@@Papi1960R Putin is ex KGB officer with colonel rank, and he worked on the inteligence expositure in East Germany. It's common known fact from his biography
I wouldn't exactly call Poland's Leopard 2a5s and 2PLs "obsolete," they're some of the best tanks in the world. Even their t72s pack a hefty punch. These new Abrams will only make their armed forces even stronger.
and it will be a further nightmare for their logistics company's. which will handicapp an army severely.
And fecking poorer!
@@colindols4112 Sadly. Strictly political choice. Hungary picked new Leopard 2A7.
Obsolete T-72M1 tanks will become the third line reseve and apart from reservists trainings and will be kept in storage. M1A2 with modernized Leopards 2PL, and 2A5 will become the main line. After completing deep digitalization of Polish PT-91 (to M2A1 or M2A2 standard) trusted "Twardy" will join in second line.
This situation will last until licence producing modernized K2 Black Panther (as a heavy K2PL) or any other chosen last gen MBT.
Wow, what you posted says a lot about what you don't know about modern armor...ask yourself..."Why would any country spend billions replacing tanks that were "some of the best tanks in the world" ? Hmmmm ? "Oh, we spent billions because we like the way there were painted" "No, we spent billions because they are M-1 Abrams because "M" comes after "L" so they must be more advanced, besides they're 1A, which is like the vey bestest, right ?". The Leopard tanks have demonstrated some disturbing deficiencies (which are being addressed in the Leopard 2a7), and don't even begin trying to compare T-72's with M1A's (ask the Iraqis about that).....so Poland wanted something they could get a lot of quickly that stands a chance against a possible Russian invasion...viola, the Abrams.
@@brianfoley4328 bruh, i served on a leopard 2A6 in afghanistan. Poland only bought them because they want to bolster their army and by doing that they are handicapping their logostics and engineers. not to mention that they will need different recovery vehicles and engineering vehicles to service those tanks. stop being a smart ass
The world NEEDS a strong Poland. They are one of the few countries in Europe currently willing to stand up to Russia. Much respect to Poland from the USA!!!
Poland is central europe
Okay, fine. At this point I don't really give a continental what part of Europe they are occupying. All I care about is that Poland is there and willing to go toe to toe with Putin.
@@voytech3892 not really they border Belarus, Ukraine and Russia i would say they are quite eastern European
What are you talking about, all of Europe is standing up to Russia. Literally every EU country is part of the entire sanctions bundle, many have sent troops and send ammunition.
@@uschurch yeah and Putin is laughing at us, he is prepare for it and all these sanctions we put upon him is gone come back and bite us in the ass, Putin is in the right and we all are wrong, Ukrainian should never be part of NATO and ps: Putin is made in America by the way
Never to be conquered again!.
God bless Poland!
Poland's army in WW2 is remembered with gratitude by many in Britain, as well as the Polish pilots in the RAF, and the Polish Navy. ...... I knew a man whose father, a Polish engineers captain, was shot by the Russians at Katyn. ...... His mother was pregnant with him, and he was born in Siberia, before they were traded for guns by Stalin after 22 June 1941. ...... I also read as a boy 50 years ago a book published by the Polish Government-in-Exile that detailed ( in 1942, I think ) what Germany was doing to the Polish People ( it was 60 mm thick ).
Those guys from the camps of Siberia went all the way through Iran, Iraq, Palestine to combat in Italy at Monte Cassino, Ancona, Bologna etc. Soviets put over a million Poles to gulag, not even half returned.
@@05KAR I have read a lot on Poles fighting with Britain WW2. ...... And I found a book on Katyn with 6,000 names in it, and went through the list ( it was not alphabetical, as I recall ) until I found Captain Jvooski ( I forget the correct spelling! ). ...... That is the closest I have ever got to a War Crime.
@
Zen StandFastForTruth well with that gratitude by many in britain is a an exaggeration, most of brits hate poles and other slavs and almost no one remembers our contribution to the defence of Britain - facts.
@@pawelsz007locp I am 64, and grew up reading about Polish soldiers and pilots, as I was interested in military history, coming from an army & navy family, going back hundreds of years. ...... Poles who escaped Poland under Germany and Russia, and got to France and Britain, or who were released through Iran by Stalin, had a very high motivation to fight, just as Ukrainians have today ( and, of course, part of today's Ukraine was Polish in 1939 ).
The reason some British people dislike Poles is the sheer numbers who arrived here, taking scarce resources, and displacing local people. ...... Renting property used to be inexpensive, but is now ruinously expensive, meaning that less motivated people get squeezed out, causing resentment. ...... And too many of any type of new people in one place alters the nature of that place. ...... I have also noted quite a lot of violent crimes committed by Poles recently, particularly against women - though I only see news reports - I do not live in an area with a lot of Poles.
Poles have a good reputation for hard work, so building contractors use a lot of Poles, which upsets the Working Man - who hates change.
I look at history, and Poland was a land with no defensible borders, fought over and conquered many times, forming the national spirit which triumphed. ...... Even after the trials of the First World War, Poles could still raise the energy to defeat the Red invasion of 1920.
Let us hope that Ukraine remains free, and that Russia does not start a bigger war.
I agree the people of Poland are a good bunch and good friends to the world in general. -Q
Poland is possibly one of most loyal counterpart Europe ally for US right after the UK, in Wikipedia... even Poland are the one of the faction who join Invasion of Iraq in 2003 alongside with countries that made of 'Anglosphere triad'.
Politically found to be disfavor of Russia, Moderate power Economy, NATO membership and tend to be nationalistic and conservative (Catholic) among European country can be a potential of one kind of tough ally.
Indeed. Catholicism is the most important part.
Poland will fight to the last man.
@@kfiscal01 if necessary we will do so
If every country in Europe besides Russia arm themselve to the nose like Israel does, Russia wouldn't dare messing with you. Instead many fall back on NATO / Americans to rescue themselves out of trouble. If Ukraine falls, Putin will not stop there. Georgia and Armenia will be next. Then Finland, Baltic states will be easy targets too. Americans will come, but perhaps after the country has fallen into iron curtain again if the country doesn't have enough defense itself.
Agreed. Most Americans don’t realize how important and loyal of an ally Poland is.
Because Poland is the gateway to Europe and that's how ww2 started
To Central Europe maybe. Finland and Norway border Russia in the North.
@@vertie2090 they are neutral countries Russia would not be going through them
@@bigdaddy195877 Neutral, just like Ukraine and Georgia were.
Norway is in NATO, that's the reason Russia won't be going through them at least.
@@bigdaddy195877 they're part of NATO lol
Ukraine NEW gate way to Europe
We Polish people remember what Russia has done in 1945-1965...enough is enough...
Unfortunately everybody just remember what the nazis did - but forget what the socialists did in the time after the nazi era.
What did they do?
@@lokiyih Killed round about 100 Million innocent people in USSR, Ukraine, China, Argentina, Cuba ...
Some of us remember leck welesa .
@@markushuber214 Yes and now they want to do it again using Nazism as an excuse Do they think all the people in the world are stupid The Nazi party is long gone
Time is money. Hungary is waiting for new Leopard 2 A7 for years. Germany could sell to Poland more than 600 tanks. They ware not interested... They have chosen Nord Stream 2 deal. Both KMW and Rehinmettal did not want to split production. Polish Leopad 2pl was good beggining, but American offer is simply better...
As a german i hate my government for this....rheinmetall and kmw is lead by people who give a sh*t about germany....
@@Future183 I do not understand this policy. Poland is going to build heavy IFV (like Lynx) but German partner do not want money from Poland. I see two options 1. Bundeskanzler and his fellows expect extra place as member of the board in next Russian company and block those deals. 2. They do not think about Poland as a real defense partner.
By the way, last week Thyssenkrupp lost the contract for 3 pcs. Marine Systems' MEKO-A300PL. Their product was favorite and had good opinion in Polish Navy, but .... Thyssenkrupp can thank Mr Scholz who supports only part of German corporations...
Commercial relations GER-POL just over EUR 127,7 billion , GER-RUSSIA just over EUR 44,3 billion. But poland do not pay for "extra bonuses.."
I think the problem is in EU corruption not in clear economic and mathematic rules.
@@PR_nick I think that's something we both don't understand. in the eyes of the ordinary citizens of germany and poland this makes no sense. both peoples want to live together in peace but our governments on both sides screw it up again and again. it's st*pid to be so competitive these days and that only brings unnecessary stress in the future.
they may now completely reverse course on this because of the invasion
i feel sorry for mine Hungarian friends
Another great American sale, Russia should really get some commission.
Cuz Poland hasn't forgotten history how many times the russians betrayed them during WW2....how Stalin collaborated with hitler to divide up poland & occupy poland.. and afterwards when the red army start marching towards Germany..from the soviet union ...the polish resistance asked the russians for help...help never arrived..they were left to be slaughtered by the nazis
@@MeiteiManipuri I think you do not know history. UK, France betrayed Poland in ww2. Polish gen was assassinated most likely by British in ww2 (British do not want revile information). Russia had no military alliance with Poland against Hitler as UK and France, it could do what it wanted. In present Ukraine has been occupying polish land since end of ww2, during ww2 Ukrainians were killing polish helping German. Poland should liberate polish land from Ukraine occupation not help Ukraine to get stronger and in future attack Poland.
Poor Poland. Hitler invaded them first. UK and France betrayed them in WW2. Russia has not been good to them either. As for the American, where there is conflict, there is money to be made.
Meitei macha is shocking by information 🤭
Its okay with me if Putin gets $hort$,, S long as he doesnt invade A peaseloving Ukraine
If anybody really need good main battle tank, Poland is the one.
Ukraine
Ukraine sure could of used them.
If anyone has noticed, it's not tank against tank, unless you're in the Middle East. everywhere else, it's anti-tank against tanks, and drones against tanks. Tanks have become (perhaps they always were) magnets for attention and a worthy target to knock out. They are expensive and value targets.
They look good on parades though.
Tanks are obsolete
Right, but wrong. Target priority for Russian tank crews was always anti-tank platforms first; tanks were always lower as priority targets. US tank crew target priority was always enemy tanks as number one. Therefore, a US tank moves itself to #1 by slewing on the enemy tank. Russians remember the basic purpose behind having a tank on the set piece battlefield: punch a hole through enemy Infantry fighting positions, then expand the breach as dismounted Infantry widens the breach for follow-on forces, to separate interlocking fields of fire, and shatter opposing forces. The old “formula” of 1:3 (defensive posture) versus 3:1(offensive posture) thereby becomes moot. But US tankers are always “cowboys” in that they want to run around willy-nilly shooting tanks. Tank-on-tank battles become even more difficult since both tanks target and shoot at the worst possible target: zero degree obliquely; more likely not in hull-defilade; consuming a rather low “stored load” ammo supply. When we went from the M60-family with its 55 round stowed load of 105mm rounds (KE and CE combined), to the 40 rounds of 120mm in the M1-family, that alone reduced our tankers’ complement of rounds..
It is still tanks against tanks very much. Of course, there is need of support for tank battalions by IFV, anti-air and infantry units but tanks are still main force of the modern armies. There is reason why every modern army is still focusing on their main battle tanks upgrade projects. Our view of war in Ukraine is distorted. The main clashes there are still fought with heavy armored and mechanized units with support of artillery. We simply don't have footage of those.
@@michwoz You are still thinking in old style combat without drones, without long range smart weapons, but hey, it's your world. Tanks are vulnerable, they are expensive and the are heavy and hard to maintain in the field. There's a reason why Putin waited to invade.
Last time I heard the Russians only have 14 operational Armata's to begin with. And to even mention the two in the same sentence is laughable. Abrams is a proven reliable war machine, and the Armata has never sniffed combat. The Russians still use mostly T-72 variants and T-80 and T-90 tank's, that are just another T-72 variant with a new name. Their armor is horrible and the maintenance is beyond horrendous...see battlefield videos of abandoned or destroyed Russian armor...including the death trap that is the shell's being under the turret for their antiquated autoloaders.
Russia made a big deal out of their new tanks, and planned to have thousands of them in service by 2020. When this didn't happen, their Deputy Prime Minister said something along the lines of "Why flood our army with Armatas, when our upgraded T-72s are still effective against Western tanks, and are in great demand at the moment?"
We now know two things:
- Russia can't afford them
- Even if they could afford them, their leadership, doctrine, logistics, training, and motivation is too poor to make much of a difference
Seriously, this is the same army whose vehicles promptly ran out of fuel days after invading their smaller, poorer neighbor. Whose most advanced air defence systems were left abandoned in the mud because they cheaped out with Chinese knock-off tires, whose soldiers were found with rations that expired last decade, whose tanks were picked off driving on main roads, whose reactive armour panels were often observed in a state of disrepair (complicated by soldiers selling the explosives), and whose doctrine involves damaged or immobilised vehicles being abandoned on the spot rather than repaired (with the assumption that forward line of battle keeps advancing, and support troops would eventually come across them. Didn't really help that Ukrainian counter-offensives pushed them back). The idea that the Russians could supply and sustain something comparable to the Abrams or Leopard II is laughable, let alone a next-generation tank
It wouldn't surprise me if/when the T-14 Armata finally does have a combat debut, it'll turn out to be a vulnerable piece of shit whose capabilities were overstated by the Russian propaganda arm (remember when one of them broke down in a parade rehearsal?)
Poland was looking for tanks since 2021. The recent situation in Ukraine isn't a trigger for this purchase.
Maybe not, but it may have accelerated the process....
@@CP-28 Exactly... like Finland's decision to purchase the American F-35 fighters.
The war next door started in 2014 so yes, it got Poland and all other Ukraine neighbours on the customer list right then.
certainly tipped the balance and is now a political acquisition as well as military one
This basically proves "wars" (or the fear/news, on the "brink" of it) accelerates arms sales....it is no secret...has been for decades and Russia and China are joining the game (e.g. Russia selling S-400 to Turkey - much to the dismay of US/NATO - and (amongst others) to India.... it's all about business and political survival back home (i.e. Biden administration and so many others before him.... the "sales" continues)....
T-14 is not (less than 50 )a problem for now. Second, Polish Leo 2 A5 and all the more Leo2PL are not outdated, they're still modern tanks and can be compared to previous version of Abrams .Even Polish PT-91 Hard is not quite outdated. It's best version can be easy compared to T-72 B3. So, Polish tanks aren't old and dated now. Buying Abrams tanks, they strenghten their armour forces off course.
Less than fifty? My dude they have less than twenty.
Hell it’s even worse than that they gave none actually in service
PT-91s are 20+ years old and build on older baseline (T-72M) rather than T-72B.
Leftists in Deutsch parliament have pushed laws prohibiting to armaments industry to use depleted uranium. Abrams have depleted uranium (DU) armor for defeating DU APFSDS russian armor, and a cannon L44 that can endure the higher pressures for firing DU APFSDS.
Its the same cannon that Leo2 A4 have, can fire that same ammo, but also can fire that DU "silver bullet".
@@anguswaterhouse9255
russia already have thousands of modernized cold war tanks (just like abrams and leopard is) that is more than good enough to fight NATO, which is why they dont rush the 2300 they planned to have by now.
im pretty sure they will have 100 T-14s by the end of this year or next year i dont remember, which is some quite good numbers, and that is without considering the insane performance of the tank.
Buy in abraams tanks you give money to the mafia monster with name usa nothink else
Facing odds of 1000 enemy main battle amour and numerous other accompanying armoured formations. You would naturally think Poland would ask for advanced Air Calvery like Apaches and Cobra II attach helicopters as well.
Yeah but that would require Polish elites to think / use their brain. No brain -- no thinking. Russia has over 500 attack helicopters. Poland has over 30... same ones as in late 1980s (!!!). Realistically Poland has no attack helicopters. Not even 1.
@@tomk3732 Mi-24 isn't that outdated and it's still a dangerous foe when equipped with modern equipment.
Edit: Even ATGMs from the 80s are pretty good at taking out modern MBTs, ie. T-72s.
They wanted the Abrahms/predator drone, but was too heavy to get airborne
They will be good targets for the Russian airforce and the antitank Kornet missiles!
@@dogeowsky It has no ATGMs only dumb missiles. Sure Mi-24 is not bad, but its in original state form 1980s. Like original. You know, never updated.
The Abrams is probably the most proven tank to hit the battlefield. Great platform and has been upgraded throughout its lifespan. T-14 production numbers are less than 50. T-90 isn’t nearly as proven.
The best tank besides maybe the makerva ( forget how to spell it lol the new Israeli tank) the t series are dead after an rpg from above aswell.
@@historyZZ merkava, but I agree in what you're saying
Totally agree , I have seen it in action.
There are at minimum 2500 Armata tanks....
T-90 is a heap of garbage...
Keeping Poland strong thanks again Poland for having a pair
The Polish are going to have very good tanks. They have the German Leopards 2A5's and American Abrams.
@MJ∆ Rheinmetall 120-mm- L55A1 (Made in Germany ;-) )
They will be good targets for the Russian airforce and the antitank Kornet missiles!
You know Russian mostly would air attack or anti tank weapon instead like this is not back in 40s.
@@Nik-jq4tx and so will the russian tanks.
@@Nik-jq4tx Yes - each tank everywhere in the world is a good target for enemies Airforce.
6 billion USD for 250 Abrams?
24 million USD per vehicle??
That's crazy.
It's not a final price. Normally due to negotiations final price is lower. 250 tanks are sold as a package with other havy vehicles, amunition etc.
Yes, crazy expensive. Remember Poland got tanks without any customary equipment contract comparison. I.e. there was no evaluation of offers at all.
Did you read about the accessories...fully air conditioned, extra tinting on the windows, power adjusted seating, heated seating, deluxe chrome package, all around sound system with On-Star tracking, Corinthian leather seats with positional head rests, cup holders, individual controls for heating and air conditioning, fold down extra storage, shock absorbing bumpers, all weather mats...these babies come loaded. Did I mention push button all track drive, Cruise Control, 360 safety viewing, splash guards and deluxe matching exterior accessories ?
Kickbacks. The military industrial complex
@@brianfoley4328 24 hour road service
This makes good sense. We've been back stocked on them for quite some time. If one knows where to look you can find thousands of them parked in the Arizona/New Mexico sun in standby condition. They've been sitting there for years as mechanics rotate through doing routine repairs.
I think was like 10 years ago I read somewhere that the pentagon said we don't need any more tanks but congress kept giving money for that purpose
US: Plan is working 😂😂🤭🤭🤭
Germany blocks NATO ally Estonia from transferring weapons to Ukraine.
No !!!!
We wanted this tanks much earlier !!!!!!!
@A Perpetual Guardsman with a flashlight Putin made NATO Great Again.
War=Business
Guess who benefiting this tension??🤣
always :)
@@hoponasu2471 Ukraine is just a toy for USA🤣🤣
The Military-Industrial Complex big money all right.
@@thescouters9741 evil usa invading Crimea😡😡
Putin should have thought of that before he started messing around. I thought he was meant to be a great strategist?
With current events it's difficult to see the T-14 ever being produced in numbers..
They've just stopped production of T-72B3/T-90 because of the lack of chips for their tank computers.
@@HanSolo__ I've heard this..but not from a decent source. Goes to show how little planning for long term operations went on..Putin never expected to be in this position...
Not Even Much
Those American Tanks ( M1 Abrams ) have the most powerfull engines of any tank in the world . The engines are gas turbine . ie : a jet engine onboard each one . Each is a 1500 horsepower jet engine . I know alot about them . I worked for the turbine blade manufacturer in the city of Toronto , in Canada for 16 years .
Woah there buddy.
Leopard, leclerc, k2, merkava, type 90 all have a 1500 hp diesel engine.
The gas turbine purpose was justn o they can use several types of fuel during the gulf war.
All the latest tanks have 1500hp engines, but use diesels. Abrams are very fuel hungry compared to the diesels in other tanks. They are a cold war design to fight in Europe, but most of their fighting has been in the desert up to now, and GT hate sand.
@@Agm1995gamer Your info is interesting ; but the diesel does suffer from the excessive weight problem . Also the amount of time required to remove and replace a diesel engine is a fair chunk greater because of the physical size and the heavy weight . ie It's not a one man job .The AGT 1500 is quite a bit less weight than a diesel . I also query the power stated in your comments ; sounds awfully high for a diesel . Each engine type has it's advantages / disadvantages .
One experienced man could for example could remove the AGT 1500 from the tanks' hull in about 60 or 70 minutes . To use more fuel than a diesel is quite normal for a gas turbine .
@@briananthony4044 Gas Turbines are easier to maintain than traditional engines due to fewer parts. The only issue was the air filters
@@johnh1001 The problem is relyability not weight either diesel or gas turbines work fine. and M1 with the required maintenance are no slotch either. The reelal problem is the US is basically selling upgraded old tanks since the M! manufacturer is out of buisnis. Given how many are lying around in depos that isnt a problem at the moment thogh might be in the long run.
The reson why the polish tgake M1 over Leopards is purely political. the eastern Nato contrys want to cenment enogh economic ties compared to the not even paying their dues fully ones to make dam sure that when they rushians are coming they get the nukes and dont get just screwed over in another round of apeasement.
IT IS THE BEST APPORTUNITY FOR THE USA TO SELL THEM WEAPONS
The US is deliberately inciting false anti-Russian hysteria in order to sell its weapons to countries like Poland))))
Russia is inciting anti -Russia sentiment, you genius.
@@canadude2010 cana dude is invited anti common sense $tupidity
@@canadude2010 hahaha! In what way?
@@user-si2dr1pn3p How about occupying Crimea? You know, from like 2014? Also currently hoarding troops near Ukrainian borders and commencing cyber attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure
US: war's back on the menu bois!
EU: help us!
US: it's weapons clearance time!
The Marine Corps just got rid of all of their Abrams tanks.
Way to go, so by your logic Putin is the US salesman since HIS behavior is triggering the purchase? Lol russian trolls trying to spin this by accusing the US of upping tensions when Putin has invaded countries and is about to continue in ukraine
@Varangian Guard ukraine
Lol Putin wants war, U.S would show Putin, America itself is a war economy.
@@sdpistolero327 Do the Marine Corps have tanks?
The Corps is getting rid of its tanks, so dozens of Marines are joining the Army.
Is'nt it a little late to do that ? How much time to learn this equipment ?
Thank you.
Poland will pay less than $ 6 billion for the Abrams. Probably + -4.5 billion dollars. 6 billion is the so-called maximum price.
@@Poison-Pill It probably won't be that good. But this version of the Abrams tanks will be the same as the American (i.e. it will have armor containing depleted uranium). The ammunition will initially be tungsten core, but later will be purchased depleted uranium core ammunition.
@Bakrichod Pakistani: Converted Slaves ✌️It is obvious. First you have to build your own army, and only then count on the support of allies, and not the other way around. Poland has a GDP comparable to Turkey, and much higher than Israel, so Poland can afford to have its army comparable. Because it is in relation to GDP that military expenses are counted. And safe Ukraine is safe Poland.
@@rupert2019
All Abrams A 1 and A 2 had depleted uranium panels fitted to the front glacis plates of the turrets after gulf war 1.
The latest US version is Tusk 2 upgraded with bolt on reactive Armor. Reactive armor isnt depleted uranium. Its high explosive capsules that bolt to the superstructure and explode when a manpad strikes them creating a negative pressure reaction.
The Abrams and British Challenger 2 are both outdated vehicles. Both built in the 1980,s
They are not 6th generation main battle tanks. Russia is the only country with 6th gen mbt so far.
The T14 aramata gun is able to fire conventional heavy projectiles, and self propelled missiles and is autoloaded. No turret crew gives better crew survivability, 3 crew seated in the hull only.
Altnough Russia has only built the T14 in low numbers so far.
The 120mm german made Rhinemetall barrel on both the Challenger 2 and Abrams are unable to fire missiles, only conventional projectiles, which reduces its standoff distance capability.
I doubt 6 billion will get 250 Abrams A2 Tusk ii upgraded versions. They will be standard A2 vehicles as seen in the video.
America rarely gives its most upgraded versions to nato partners. Almost all the kit left in Afghanistan was out of date versions including the Blackhawks.
The British had to pay extra to upgrade the Apaches they purchased to longbow A2 versions.
The bill was close to 20 million just for the upgraded Avionics package and came with costly service contract clauses.
@Bakrichod Pakistani: Converted Slaves ✌️
On the other hand, if the US involvement in NATO softened, now they would not strengthen NATO's eastern flank.
@@ljt3084 Got it, thanks for the info. I thought that the US sells to all countries the so-called export versions of Abrams, which are truncated compared to those used by the US. Only to some of its closest NATO allies, the US sells the same tanks that the US military uses. The Abrams, in this version purchased by Poland, will easily cope with any Russian tank, even the T-14. Russia has very few T-14 tanks, and only a few hundred modern ones (T-90 etc.). The rest are preserved old tanks straight from the USSR.
Biden - Russia will attack.
Also Biden - We got some expensive tanks on sale today I think you might need them.
Germany blocks NATO ally Estonia from transferring weapons to Ukraine. Germany has Russian foreign policy baggage. Poland has PSTD against Russia.
But Poland wanted them first. Polish authority said about buying them even before US congress knew about it. I think, as Polish, that those tanks will be bad for our military:too heavy and complicade, too expensive and also we would have 4 types of different tanks which will be a logistical catastrophe
Not sure if these overpriced tanks would be of any use, if Russia sends in their missiles...
All the tension is about creating market for selling their weapons🤣
@@nikodem7372 then sell the other types. Give the Leopards to Lithuania or the other Baltic states. Although they do not want to trust Germany either. Use Abrams and your own.
Yes it can. Just how good are the drivers. Also does this tank have complete US package ?
Thank you CRUX for your informing excellency
May it not be too late ... Poland is also waiting for deliveries of iron dome, chimars, patriots, f35 and Turkish drones.
Iron Drome never heard of it ?
@@piotrmackowiak9636 iron dome
@@piotrmackowiak9636 my mistake of course, iron dome. Poland will sign a deal with the British for these kits soon. Pfffffff it's "top secret" haha.
Poland has PAC3 (Patriot version 3) with Israel design Stunner hypersonic missiles. Stunner's seeker is a micro-AESA radar. Raytheon markets Israel design Stunner missile as SkyCeptor.
PAAC4 (Patriot version 4) comes with SkyCeptor as standard.
Standard PAC3 has Lockheed's Missile Segment Enhancement (MSE), but the Polish PAC3 variant has hypersonic speeds and longer-range versions and it's closer to PAAC4 (Patriot version 4) configuration.
Romania and the Czech Republic have purchased Israel’s "Iron Dome".
The more wars, the more profits US defense contractors can make. That's why it's very important that there's always talk of war.
U beat me to the punch line. So true.... when anyone gets confused ,just follow the money
Well U.S didn't tell Russia to invade Ukraine and cause tension in Europe.
well no shit shirlock, war is a business
@Assismus You don't think the skekel rubbers are playing both sides?
He who has biggest stick usually wins
Is the M1 Abrams version sold to poland include the DU armor?
Poland must have excellent credit.
EU needs to recognize if Poland is to hold the Eastern NATO flank it needs some serious military investment.
THEY ENCIRCLE RUSSIA WITH NUKE -MISSILES, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES TELLING PUTIN TO DE-ESCALATE.
@@brenchomsky3515 How exactly does Poland encircle russia?
We could easily, we just need proper weapons and air support.
Peace ☮️🕊️ for peace ✌️🕊️
In Deutche Welt, the Germans revealed that only one in ten of their Leopard 2s were operational. That statement said one of two things. Either their tanks are not reliable, or the Germans were not committed to keeping and maintaining spares to keep their tanks operational..
~2,500 Leopard 2 have been built for Germany, but only about 250 are distributed to active battailions in the most modern version. The rest are 2A4 versions and well stored and maintained. But roughly 500 have been sold to Poland, Finland, Sweden and Canada. Since the dutch figured getting rif of MBTs wasn't the brightest idea. They have 12 german Tanks either leased or belonging generally to germany but are manned by dutch but within a german battalion.
Polish moves makes no sense, literally maintaining three different MBTs. Whereas the most modern Abrams, even i dont know what specifications he is coming with. But he can't have one the Leopard 2A5 started to field. The Turret at its front being literally immune to any by the Russians used ammunition. The Abrams otherwise certainly having some nice perks is not capable to withstand one particular russian modern ammunition, certainly being used in the paper tiger T-14.
Most German Leopard 2s are older variants technically in storage. This is why the Russian Ground Forces appear desperately short of tanks in Ukraine - most of the ones they have on paper are technically in storage. Difference is, when Western Europeans put their old AFVs in storage, they're carefully preserved and maintained in hangars; Russian "storage facilities" consist of row after row of old tanks left to rust in an outdoor park.
It's similar to why the Russian air forces struggle to come close to air superiority in Ukraine - modern technology needs constant maintenance and a large pool of skilled technicians to do so. A typical NATO air force's aircraft mission capable rates usually vary from 50-75% - how would you suppose the underfunded and dysfunctional Russian armed forces (bolstered with conscripts, beset with corruption and penny-pinching) would fare?
@@rethguals are you saying that the Russians need to bring out their Leopard tanks out of storage? 🤣🤣🤣. I thought they built their own tanks.
Will those M1A2's get urban kits?
Us is making a lot of money out of this message war .
USA should thank Russia. A $6 billion sale is not easier. The US economy depends so much on arms sales it seems.
Is right!!.
Lmao not really
Thank Germany you mean, I'm sure Poland would probably want to buy more Leopards since they are made next door and they already operate them except the problem with buying weapons from somewhere else is you also need to know the supply chain is reliable if the preverbal hits the fan, and that's where Germany dropped the ball, to speak quite frankly when it comes to Russia Germany is compromised and proving to be a unreliable partner to the Western alliance, in fact I strongly suspect if NATO was threatened directly Germany would do everything in it's power to sit it out and not get involved hence why the USA should thank Germany as well as Russia.
Pretty much the exact opposite really. Russia is much more reliant on it. Besides, this deal has been in the works since before the Ukraine business started.
U r rite... When there is a fight between two elephants always the grass is destroyed.... And u all know well what I mean
This is an odd choice as the ‘Main Ground Combat System’ or MGCS project (aka the EuroTank) will be announced sometime in 2025. The Armata is not even production due to budget issues. Its obvious that this sale was done for political reasoning but the Abrams is approaching end of it useable life span. Poland may also be counting on forward US deployment which means easy access to spare parts.
well you proabaly sadly can scrap the MGCS Project.... France and Germany have such a big rivality currently, MGCS and FCAS (future combat air system) are prestige projects of both countries. They cant even decide on the requirements
Not an odd choice at all, The French dicked Poland around.
Poland wasn't invited to the initial consultation process.
Poland applied to join the Project in 2019
Poland was excluded from the Project in 2020
Poland started looking at producing their own K2PL's under licence and the French then said they were open to talks.
On top of all of that, even if they thought they could trust the French, actual full production capacity of the MGCS is planned for the late 2030's which means case scenario Poland wouldn't be able to deploy MGCS's until at least the 2040's.
The US has that many tanks available for delivery TODAY. Versus "someday." That is why - and from the sound of it we gave them a pretty good price as well.
T14 still isnt being produced in quantity. War in Ukraine has kind of proved all the tanks from T72-T90 are junk.
Both Russian tank plants are shut down. There will be no T14's.
0:17 those are Su-85's, WW2 Relics
да
aka t 14
Ahh, so this is what the hysteria was for.
Exsactly this the main mission of america creat of panic hysteria now gud profit the same time.. stupid US..
@@mikejadulan2766 while you must be the smart one!
This is just one of the "things" why hysteria...read about Romania buying...+ Ukraina ofcourse.And why is Biden so angry on Orban??? Cause Hungarian president don t want to buy any weapon in the near future...read about it.Regards
@A Perpetual Guardsman with a flashlight To be real you are all clueless…
Weapons sales. Of course.
"Can The Abrams Tank Counter Russia's T-14 Armata?"
Seeing as there are only 20 T-14s in existence, by the Russian MoD's own admittance back in 2020/2021
Yes
I love Poland I’m from America I support them.
Leo 2A5 ain't that outdated. Its shares the same L/44 gun as M1A2.
Germany is not keen on selling more tanks to Poland.
Hence Poland opted to go American. Or else Poland could've ordered the more advanced Leo2A6 or 2A7 even, with L/55.
You cant count on Germans. Putler might tell them to not sell Poland spare parts or whatever. Anerican tanks are much safer option
Well, since Poland get blocked from the MGCS program
despite being one the largest tank fleet operators in the EU & NATO
as well as being a buffer country between EU and EAEU...
Might as well consider this as their way of showing the 🖕 to the related countries...
@master mariner i bet getting parts for Abrams in Europe is still safer than for the Leopard. The German socialist might say one day to Poland "oh, you are in war with R atm, we dont arm countries which are in war. Old principle of ours, see..." (Sholtz puts a pack of money to his safe)
Polish authorities are too much germanophobic to buy tanks from them. They would buy even chinese tanks to be anti german.
1. Poland has a program called "Wolf" which has a task to replace their outdated tanks with newer ones.
Abrams was bought outside of that program, which means Poland will most likely also buy K2 Tanks since they also wants to replaice their fleet of Leopards and K2 was supposed to be build in Poland to boost their production capability but the problem is that the first Polish K2 would come out of local factories 10 years after signing the deal which Poland cannot allow themself for that since they are already running out of spare parts for T-72 and PT-91.
2. Buying Leopards from Germany is simply impossible and unreliable since they already are worried about Germany not wanting to sell them bigger numbers of modern ammunition which bring us to the part where Poland also aquired some KE-W APFSDS and will try to get more modern KE-Ws to have ammunition also for their Leopards until they will also be replaced (idk if they gonna buy any M829XX APFSDS yet).
3. Poland wasnt invited to that German-France project of future mbt because.... Poland has basically twice the number of tanks than Germany and France combined which would literally made them major user of that tank and also killed ger-fr industry since Poland right now don't have capabilities to produce their own tanks.
4. Poland is already producing certain parts to Abrams and the deal also include capabilities for local maintance.
In the pretext of war arms defence equipment buismess is going on,
I would not worry so much about the Russian tanks but rather the adversaries mpads and artillery, etc.. also it's much better to get hundreds of thousands long range missiles that would reach Moscow and beyond!
The M-1 will tear up that T-14.
Poland should be strengthened with missiles asap. One of the best allies of the USA.
We should just give the Poles the tanks, let them spend the money on some other military hardware.
Yes, Poland is the most US oriented ally in the entire EU. That applies not only to the Polish government but to ordinary Polish people. I think over there everybody knows what Russia is and how to deal with them. Keeping Poland strong is the best way to eliminate any military problems for Europe
What T-14s?? Russia has a handful, and that's all they're likely to have for many years to come. They probably won't be mass produced for at least a decade, if they ever get mass produced at all.
If Poland had a more varied and capable military, you might say a handful of Armatas wouldn't be much of a threat. But, if your options are few, you need at least one that can stand toe to toe with your adversary's biggest threat. Considering the geography and Poland's lack of a bleeding edge air force, the Abrahms is probably a good solution.
It take a few KA 52s and Mil Mi 28 Night Hunters to eat up those sitting duck like Abrams. Who tha fuck need Armatas when you have means to obliterate any invader with no reaction time?
@@itinensanzen They would be sitting ducks for air defenses or fighter aircraft. There is no point in comparing the two, ill informed troll.
@@itinensanzen thats whatis Piorun made for, ground Ka 52 and Mi28
@Kamil S "Mass producing" the F35?That shitty flying piece of junk known among US military as "trillion dollar national disaster'? Quit crack and get a job.
what is the tank at 3:00 ?
Ho long will it take 2 get Abrams?
easy money... it should be end year clearance of old products.. 🤣🤣
What better way to sell military hardwares than to create war hysteria? 😂
For real, the american military industrial complex is probably the ones fanning the war flames, if they can sell 6 billion with just the hysteria that russia is going to invade, imagine how much they will sell to other European countries if russia did actually invade, they don't care about Ukraine only their bottomline, leader of the free world 🤣
@A Perpetual Guardsman with a flashlight you are clueless, stop trying to act you know shit
yeah cause those 150k troops are all American
Your joking right 🤣 putin literally just made it clear in a 45 min interview that he will take Ukraine
@@f9658 Yea seems like he was right actually, Russia has officially invaded Ukraine.
I assume they would get the M1A2 SEPv4, which is the latest and would be an improvement. Also, the new AMP round is another improvement.
The T-14 dont work yet, first they ordered 100ps then 20ps for testing, even those are not all delivered yet.
God will bless those who want peace and stability.
After sanctions, the only tank Russia can afford to build is a T-34.
After the war, the Russians can only build MS-1's.
Good Javelin fodder. Pop goes the turret.
I wouldn't want to be in one of those metal coffins with all those Javelins hiding in the woods.
Much respect to Poland. They have the courage that is lacking in our own president.
Poland should have it's own ICBM research program and develop their own nuclear weapons. I bet the USA and Russia would not allow it together.
Sorry we can't afford that and besides why we would we upset our allies. Yes, ICBM is good but do we really need that?
@@zeparthe16thspiritofarsgoe15 Israel did in the 60's. It was very poor back then. Poland has the talent, skills.
Sadly Putin wants, demands, wacko who knows the evaporation of NATO. Poland might find itself the next Donbass. Russia propaganda can make case that a good part of Poland belongs in Russia. Germany takes the rest. You've heard that story before, right?
@@2paulcoyle Israel has USA's support though else it wouldn't exist. I agree on the rest.
@@Silent.Hunter Note the existence of independent nuclear weapons from US allies such as the UK, France, and Israel. The trigger is the 1956 Suez Canal crisis when the Soviets have threaten to nuke Britain, France, and Israel without US nuclear weapons coverage.
New Zealand has Rocket Lab with an orbital class rocket design.
T 14 armata ??? And they show a T 34??
:)
Great, nothing wrong with taking Poland's money and putting people to work. I hope they buy thousands of them.
What is that green armored vehicle at 0:15 in front of Lloyd Austin? It is freaking massive.
I think its M120 Rak
Nothing like the threat of war to get the military sales up ...US Submarines F35's and 120 Abraham Tanks to Australia, F16's to Taiwan, 64 F-35 to Finland, 250 Abrahams to Poland, Russia and china have woken up the West Military - nice work
Now, how those billions of sales impact trillions of total US revenues? Some people think its very important for US to sell weapons, although its just a small portion of revenues.
Dont forget 36 f15 to indonesia
what are you gonna do about it lmfao
Yea it seems this comment didn't age well, maybe Ukraine should have bought more weapons when they could have, seeing as they're currently being invaded by Russia as I post this, only time will tell now how well armed and ready they really were.
its not threat its reality
US arms clearance sale going on,,
are thosed used m1 abrahams because it didnt say anything about the manufacturer ?
What is the delay. USA needs to start shipping the tanks NOW !!! There must be something in inventory. 10, 20, 30.....tanks. It's a start. Same thing with the F-35's that Poland ordered.
Sure ...such war like situations created by the US and later sale arms.
That's business as usual. America will fight for freedom to the last Polish soldier.
I once made the mistake of purchasing a Lada. I have a sneaking feeling that the T14 might rely on similar electronics.. This may be why they have not featured in Putin's illegal invasion of a peaceful neighbour.
Oh actually I have seen an early 80's Lada Riva on a Russian train heading for the front lines.
@@Marc83Aus Probably their best piece of kit!
@@willleahy6958 That lada will probably be the only vehicle that survives the invasion.
So it looks like they are getting the SEP V3. I wonder if their contract includes the option for upgrades to SEP V4 when it is implemented by the US.
Poland is the loyal country and very respectfull country in the world. . godbless to your country and to all people of poland. . ❤❤❤
Is this starting to look-n-feel like a real war yet? YES? NO?
The Armata is a tough tank to beat.
ITS UNBEATABLE
@@vangeliskorleone1839 and the titanic was unsinkable
@@vangeliskorleone1839 That's just BS, and as a by the way...we don't beat tanks...we blow them up.
They will be more than a match for the 20 T14s Russia has managed to throw together 🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:00 its a leopard 2 PL manufactured by KMW a German Firm, it is not the t-72 or PT-91
If Russia is struggling to overcome Ukraine, it would have no chance against NATO. Poland historically has reasons to be wary of Russia; The 1939 eastern Poland occupation, the Katyn massacre and the way Stalin cynically halted his army just a few miles from Warsaw to allow the Germans to crush the Polish home army in 1944.
If Russians didn't care about civilians like usa in irak it Ill take only 48 hours to take Kiev
@@johnreaper4452 Russiansactually don’t care about civilians. Look how Mariupol or Kharkiv looks these days.
Meanwhile it is day 22 of ‘48-hours taking of Kiev operation’
@@vp5209 thats what your media is telling you and you are taking the pill like a sheep
Usa killed more than 200000 iraki civilian in 2003
@@johnreaper4452 They haven't taken Kiev because of Ukrainian resistance.
They know how to make money and making all other countries indebted to them. One country they failed with is Sri Lanka. They gave all the help to win the war killing it's ethnic minority. But Sri Lanka went to get unlimited help from the Chinese. Now these developing countries joined NATO and be indebted for ever. Years pass but these countries which embraced democracy will remain developing for ever.
Sri Lanka will later posess a threat to India let see
Sri Lanka got trapped by China not unlimited help. You think the Chinese are giving Sri Lanka money because they are nice? No. They purposely gave as much money as possible to make sure Sri Lankans defaulted on the loan. Guess what? now Chinese has rights to one of Sri Lankas most important ports. This was the plan all along for the CCP. So, let's speak with logical, rational thinking and not bias repeating of CCP state run propaganda. Every country has interest and China is no exception. Even now Sri Lanka is highly indebted to China, so I guess you are right, Sri Lanka will now have to cater to China and remain the same. Not sure why people don't think before commenting.
@@rickjames18 The West knew very well that Sri Lanka fights an ethnic war mongers inside the country. The West used their satellites helped Sri Lankan forces to get rid of its ethnic minority fought to win their rights in the name of terrorism. Then West walked away, leaving Sri Lankan Govt to look for sources of funds. So, China was invited there by the ignorance of the West. If rebels fight there, China couldn't build anything in Sri Lanka. Former Soviet blocs go after NATO will be bankrupt one day.
@@kalabala5545 Sounds like the new administration whenever that was abandoned the rebels that were pro-west? Can't say I know much about that situation and I will not pretend I do. But I do know how the CCP operates, and I can say it far worse than the crap the west pulls. I can understand Sri Lanka needing money but look at the situation now, it worse than before and more indebted.
are those the former marine abrams.
OK-------... Now it is day 7 of the Ukraine War. How long is it going to take for Poland to get its 250 M-1 tanks and are they thinking about ordering 250 more? Go Poland!
This must be like the 2 ND war for after their wall fell, continue? In Russia I meant.
thats all this is about! a high stakes weapons sale!
Shows whst you know of the history of Russia.
M1A2? SEPV3?
Second or third generation TIS?
Trophy?
Updated AGT-1500?
Updated Tank Vetronics Backplane?
Munition Datalink?
M829A3 or A4?
M1147 AMP?
DU inserts to armor?
Without serious updating to basically U.S. home service standards, the Abrams is non competitive. It's short gun means that, _unless it has a DU SLRP_, it has a serious overmatch issue against dual third generation ERA + 5th generation composites like in the T-80BVM or T-90. Especially in the outer engagement ranges, beyond 3,500m, it just doesn't have the stick with Tungsten rounds.
It can compensate for this, somewhat, with the M1147 AMP (which is shaping up to be STAFF 2.0) but only if it has superb GPS/CITV interlink via third generation thermal wells and the munition datalink to guarantee proper fuse setting.
It's armor package is not all that impressive against late generation Svenits/Vacuum rounds and this is a bad thing because if you detonate the modern 120mm ammunition, the blow out doors will not contain the brewup.
It is still a fuel hungry beast which means if it doesn't have the on-turret APU and the ECS it will need a fleer of M978 HEMTT tankers, just to stay in the game and it's crew will freeze their asses off in the European winter.
Overall, the Leopard 2A6 with the DM53 is a better penetrator if both tanks are using tungsten and the 2A7 with the DM63/73 is superior. While the protection offered by the Leopard's Arrowhead is better, if there is no DU in the export Abrams backpack.
Being a small country with limited soldiers to throw at donkey tasks, I doubt if the Poles will be impressed with manual servicing of 50lb rounds into a conventional breach, though admittedly, they do something similar with the Leopard.
Standardization on nearby logistics sources is important. If the Leopard 2A6/2A7 is not available, the better export tank is likely the Leclerc. This deal must be just /loaded/ with politics.
If Poland gets the A2 version when I am traveling back to my home country I am going to slap someone over the head. A2 is no longer competitive version. It is doubtful M1A2PL will get uranium plates and uranium based ammo... sad day. Monkey models.
What interesting could be more from electronic segment of the industry?
Remember that the M1A2 has been Battle tested in the Iraq War.
Until this very day, the A2 Variants are still being Upgraded with new Technological, Defensive and Lethal components.
Tested against third world it´s a joke...as Merkava against clowns with RPGs and Kalashnikovs...
Buying tank in 2022 is useless because majority anti-tank missile system can detect it
And what will this do against sukhoy? Literally just tin can target practice.
@@gkagara That's not how shit works. No tank can survive an aircraft with an anti tank loadout, but that's what air defenses are for. Comparison between them is moot.
@@solarlux7856 when it come to world power it's always combined arms buying tanks change nothing as Ukraine air power is pathetic.
May God's peace ✌️🕊️ be with those who love God, amen......................
Because of Armata
Yes that's Good tanks to chose from The market
Without air defenses tanks are targets for enemy air strikes or missiles.
Lord, Jesus, just bring us closer to you! Amen..................
Are they getting new horses too?
Aren't mines the most cost effective anti tank weapon if you're on defense?
Watch the stock price INCREASE of the following companies:
1. General Dynamics
2. Raytheon
3. Northrop Grumman
4. Boeing
5. Lockheed Martin.
These are the Top MAJOR military companies in the World!
One can see the trend since the last year and drive CONCLUSIONS.
Romania's government has condemned Putin's demand to remove Romania's freedom of association.
Sweden's government has condemned Putin's demand to remove Sweden's freedom of association.
Finland's government has condemned Putin's demand to remove Finland's freedom of association.
Estonia's government has condemned Putin's demand to remove Estonia's freedom of association.
Poland's government has condemned Putin's demand to remove Poland's freedom of association.
@@valenrn8657 Listen: War is a Big Business!
The T14 is an untested tank with serious technology issues or it would be in wide spread use. It’s autocannon would have fouling issues so it would have hamming issues. Russian tanks are lighter so HEAT charges would be highly effective and it’s fire control system would be subject to jamming. Russian air is apparently not that good since Ukraine is forcing them to stand off. The Abrams and Leopards would tear the Russian AFV’s to pieces.
Don't you think the Russians may have carried a test or two before production?
Your comments are just surmise unless you were on the development team.
Wow an army with both 250 Leopard 2 tanks and 250 Abrams tanks