Foreigners in China, Who are these people?
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024
- Not all foreigners that move to China are fine upstanding people. Most of them are but there is that group in every place I've been that makes all foreigners in China look bad. That said there are a lot of good foreigners from all over the world that either live or work in China. These are regular everyday people that see the excitement and adventure of being in a country like China. They vary from young English teachers to older expats that have married a Chinese lady. People that have come to visit and decided to stay and people that are just passing through seeing the sights. Whatever their reason for being in China it probably involves some form of adventure. This is my opinion of the foreigners I have seen and met in China.I'm sure this will PO some of the boys in Nanning but hey it's in my nature to tell it how I see it.
This is a good one as I got some pretty nasty comments from the group 5 guys. Yes I deleted them as I won't give them a forum on my channel.
you should let us read their comment :(
Business group, that's a large one. I think this group might rank the 2nd after teachers.
Gosh!!! I'm a Canadian myself and I can hear your heavy canuck accent! Americans, British folk out there. This is a true Canadian accent.
Canada is one big country with various regional accents
pretty sure laowhy86 and serpentza are 5
they now ran away to vietnam and left their wives and kids in China. then they talk shit about chinese men lol
@@Shenzhou. they just want money..!! serpentZA 10+ years living in china cant even pronounce QINGDAO correctly :|
serpentZA tried to fit in, but in the end I think it is too hard for him... He had to state again and again he loves China...
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I thought that they ran off to the states? If they are in vietnam then it's even worst because it is so different to China. They'll hate it and get killed by the viet dudes for being racist.
You are very kind and honest guy,we chinese will know nothing about those groups of foreigner in China without your useful information!Thank you!
So，you moved from group 5 to group 3, in two weeks, congratulation!
I'm slowly working my way through all of your videos, great resource for a person (like myself) thinking about teaching in China.
Good evening from Canada.
oh yeah I was telling my chinese friends that when i'm in China I avoid other Foreigners..
prefer to keep it all chinese
You hit the nail on the head! Sorry, I can't think of any other groups because you have said them all. :) All your contents are very informative and educational. Thank you!
Big difference between 1st and 2nd and 3rd tier cities. In Shanghai and Beijing there are also many expats who have been sent by their home country, to work for 2-3 years, in big companies.
I am from the 3rd group.. Living with my wife 15 years in Hubei
Morning Gweilo (I am Malaysian). Just interested to know what are the usual activities of Group 5 when they are in Nanning? Maybe you can just drop us a short video about their activities. Maybe these elderly groups are frustrated in their countries and hoping to get some fresh air in Nanning.
This is very informative. Thanks for sharing this.
it is not propaganda. to get very rich you need connections. and that's a corruption. Bribes are very real my friend.
Interesting topic, thanks for your thoughts and sharing.
Maybe you should interview some of the Group 5 guys and get their stories, and find out how much success (if any) they had in meeting Chinese women.
神州 Shenzhou gosh you speak like all westerners like Asian women, the ones you see in Asia only make up a very small percentage of western men. Insecure men like you are the ones who can’t stand strong women.
Hi another Canuck. Interest video but what about the business people group? Lots of expats in China/HK but mostly hanging out in big cities. Thanks China!
Very interesting analysis. Thanks. I think you left out foreigner expats working for large international firms - but they probably are not in Naning, but in tier 1 cities. For instance, many years ago, I worked for an international software firm and visited international offices, including Hong Kong and Singapore, but not the mainland. Of course, I just visited, but others were there on 1-3 year assignments.
In Nanning a 3rd tier city we have little to no international business menthat I have seen. This group is large in the tier 1 cities.
I am in the happy married group. at 71 years old, been married for 12 years. love china and love nanning. the group 5 guys are few but agree they are around.
Greg we are both in the happily married group because our wives tell us we are.
You omitted the biggest group of foreigners, South East Asians, As I check Students alone from Thailand Laos Vietnam etc reached over 2,000 in 2015 ~maybe it's because they are mostly yellow thus quite invisible to many😀
Thai, Vietnamese, Lao people may look quite similar to local people in Guangxi province. But good to see some education exchange among these countries - considering there were some brutal battles since late 1970s until mid 1980s between China and Vietnam. I watched some other Vlogs by either Chinese TV station or tourists, it seems both sides of China and Vietnam are not so intense as they were in 1970s
Gweilo would it be possible to show us the queen s head pub one day? Great videos!
On my list of things to do
like you guys talk and observation.
Haha, I kind of fall into the married group NOW. But I came here out of professional necessity. My industry came here but I had already lived in Japan, Korea, Latin America and South America (professional reasons). But if you have at least a BA or MA and are in professional transition (like I was) coming to China as an English Teacher is an excellent way to segue into this society, make roots and branch off into your TRUE AREA of focus. You have to be strategic about it. That's how I transitioned and it took nearly 4.5 years. Once you get to know the ropes, you can get a better gig. It's almost impossible to make roots in China without ANY FORM of sponsorship, simply because of the laws. But there are WAYS, I've learned them but just as Winston says in one his recent videos, you will NEVER REALLY become a FULL RESIDENT (Green Card Holder) in China. You are subject to renewals, scrutiny and the POLITICAL whims and WINDS. Yet being a foreigner in China is tricky if you plan on being here for an extended period of time. In Nanning, I've seen of those #5'vers. I've seen them in Manila, Japan and Korea as well. True what you say and some of my Chinese female friends have told me HORROR STORIES about a few. Sad but ture. Now, I am not talking cultural or tourists. And yes, you'll get all of the flavors and layers of Foreigners here.
gweilo, what about a 6 group, American/Abroad born Chinese (ABC) like myself? Have you encountered anyone of them? What is your observation and/or perception on them?
I have never been to China before but planning to in the next 2 years. I have been to HK, Macau, and many southeastern Asia countries. I would like to read what is your thought and observation on oversea Chinese.
Welcome to China. I moved to USA when I was ten and moved back to China recently. You should check out Dalian, really nice and beautiful city.
Gweilo knows everything!!! 😁An expert in China topic!! Hahaha😄
It's very difficult to generalize and try and fit people into separate "boxes", because you will always find exceptions, or those who overlap into two or three of the "boxes". Nevertheless, I found your video very interesting, especially from your point of view of someone in a 3rd tier city, and I certainly know or have known people in my 2nd tier city who would fit into your foreigner categories.
Major Applaud !! Theres nothing wrong to tell a truth !!!
I watch these videos they are quite informative I am involved with chinese lady from Hong Kong and we plan to marry, these videos help a lot to understand the culture.
5th group. I recall there was an emegency on a ship. The bloke was medically ok but not quite right socially. He just return from cruise with his new wife. Poor Chinese girl. She had no relatives or friends in Australia. I could only hope she realises her predicament and find means to return home or move on from the relationship with the socially odd man. Put simply she seemed obliged to be with him out of economic necessity, was it better than her home life opportunity? hard to say but felt she had little choices since marrying the awkward guy, he was around 40. Stranger still, if you have nt worked things out by 25yo, then they are Johnny come lately.
Interesting observations.
You did not include my group. I am working in China.
But probably not in a tier 3 city, Right? You can be group 6 in the followup video
I think I am an unusual case I work in a Prefecture level city. You nailed it on the 5 major groups of foreigners.
group 6 here, just normally self-employed working in Greater Guangxi :)
So I guess the very smallest group "6" of foreigners would be those few studying in China? Too few not worth mentioning? Because that is what I was 28 years ago, not in China but in Japan (but I had fellows who did spend time in China).
5th group is referred to as LBH, and they’re everywhere. I’ve known a few, and not for long!
But a lot of ESL foreigners here in China are losers back home
LBH how fitting
Gweilo 60 indeed! Great video, and I’m making my way through your channel now! Keep up the good work !
nice weather
Good video of real China!
Great video!
I guess 1 at first, most foreigners at least young ones come out and teach, but now I’m doing a media job here, which I’m happy about because it will help me if/when I move back to England. Teaching English can pay ok in China but if you ever go back to the West you’ll be poor, it’s no good.
Was it luck or character that kept you out of group 5 ;)
I don't know maybe we should ask my wife. Actually I've talked to some of the people in group 5 and they give me the creeps and I don't easily get creeped out.
Like ur video, keep it up
Yes，do it！I'm very interesting into that！😄
It's like some Americans asked me when I was in USA.
- If China's so great, why do Chinese people move to America or Canada, or Australia?
I told them,
some of them liked America based on what they heard,
some of them liked the exchange rate to work there,
some of thier children can't get enough grades for good universities in China, then bought a spot of garbage university targetting Chinese students,
some of them joined cult like Falun,
some of them were actually criminals like corruption or shady business, or even gangs.
Of course, most of them loved high quality life in the United States.
But at end of the day, China is rich people's heaven, it got everything and they can do everything. Why did they leave? The answer is they messed up with somebody powerful enough to wipe them out of this world.
You are right, Du. A lot of 'dirty money' leaves China and finds a home in USA. Also, way to many Falun Gong propagandists find a home in USA. And, all the time in my city I see the rich Chinese student who did not study at home, and now go to my city's second tier university. They don't study here, either. They just loaf around and spend parent's money. Their parents spend a lot of money at the university, so the school officials will not kick them out for bad grades. The rich lazy Chinese students end up getting a degree that they did not earn, but their parents paid lots of money to get.
Andrew Cobb Dude, you miss my point. You're comparing USA with China, talking about what both countries look like. Well I was talking about which parts of Chinese immigrate there. A country is friendly for some groups of people and someone has to leave China for the U.S. aren't the same .
I do agree most of what you said. Tax is a big pain in the A in China.Even I can feel it, no mention those crazy rich people. And you get it when I say they can do anything. That part is what I mean heaven, not the quality life part. Because like you said, it's changing now.
There is one more thing. China is like wild west full of opportunities and exciting changes. I feel full of energy and hope here. I really love the 3 years when I was inCaltech. Life was amazing, girls were hot. But it's really too comfortable to make me lazy.
The students are English teachers who couldn't get working visas due to their nationality so they get the student visa and teach on the down low ;) haha honestly
yeah lol
you are not a good category of foreigner serpentza
国籍你这辈子都不要想了
dont think that we cant see your videos in china... we really dont welcome you here.
most importantly, stay awesome
Great
which group is serpentza?
Originally the foreign english teacher who is actually a looser. However, he has been lucky that his videos have become popular. He is now making around 7000-8000$ a month by showing videos about stuff in china that is - for the most part - highly exaggerated and incredibly generalized.
If you don't believe these stats look up his patreon page where you can see that he make at least $3000 a month just by donation. Further from socialblade.com you can deduct that he gets round about another $4000 dollar from his channel and ADVChina. However, he contineously tells ppl how poor he is.
If you think they don't know how to speak Chinese, then you don't know anything about them. SerpentZa has been speaking Chinese for years,
Chris Sabre, i think Andrew Cobb probably meant Chinese culture and Chinese history. Chinese empathize a lot on history, given that they have 5000 years of it. Serpentza's notion of Chinese being butt-hurt about WW2 clearly shows that he can't even meet the Chinese half way about their history, and he claims he knows a lot China! Maybe he knows the present day China, but certainly not the Chinese history and what it does to the Chinese people.
It was made painfully obvious that you are completely wrong in watching them speak in both their documentaries of conquering southern and northern China, so again you are not watching them much. They both spoke and understood Chinese all over the place. But you are welcome to dislike whomever you please,
toom2141 wow I had no idea
Nanning is home of scammers. Do you know about that? (I learnt this from local GX and GD people). I think I have watched your videos no more than two. The recent C'money and C"home was one that I can remember. Having watched this one, I clicked "Gweilo60" and found you have made tons of videos on CN. My first questions: Do you live in Nanning or Vancouver? and what made you go there so often and to explore, if you don't mind to tell us? Yes, you surely left out some groups, as many pointed out here, like specialists, business operators, expatriates, visiting QCs, etc. etc. IMO, those teachers (外教) went there to make a few easy bucks while enjoying the fun as tourist and perhaps, if they are visible 鬼佬, white (preferred), handsome and young enough, they can mix match at the convenience with some young girls. Again IMO, there are good guys and bad guys everywhere, whoever they are, they hangout at night for different purposes, but who cares if they don't break the law. There, I also went out for beer or 宵夜 too. :-) haha. Cheers!
Hi there...it hv been sometime I see your video...I m single and I kinda interested to find a life partner in China.What do you think of my chances?What is their most important desire from a foreigner?
i have been following your videos. one suggestion is not to generalize what your see, you experience are being “china”, it is probably not all of Nanning. just as what you see UK is not france, or germany.....
Not all foreigners are bad. You guys may be taken over by philippinos in teaching English. They can do house keeping and teaching all together. Is that South lake dried Nanning there?
I noticed Nanhu Lake had been drained. Not sure why
Gweilo 60 Kirk，thanks。
Minhui Zheng Yes, half of Nanhu Lake and the largest part of Mingge Lake are now reconstructed. The government wants to improve the water quality, build two or three "ecological islands" with aquatic plants at the shore that add diversity to the flora and fauna, and divide the lake to three sections. It's not yet known when or if they exchange the existing lake water.
Are you still in nanning?
Not right now but will be back in the spring
2nd g'day from Australia 🇭🇲
Put me down for group 5 when I get old!!!
I only date/LOVE Far Eastern women!!!
David.
I don't think your wife will approve.
First, g’day from Australia 🇦🇺
Oh man. Aren’t you biased against older folks. I used to like what you have to say, but this one is a disappointment ... but you are right .. the illusion and sophistication of China makes the lives of the introverts difficult. But we should live and let live.
welcome to Nanning
Doesn't matter where u at! Karma will find you if you deserve it! They will pick the wrong girl/guy and regret it.
Group 2 here
Don't you see any Expat Foreigners in Nanning ???? I suppose your in small city. Larger cities there are a large number of Expats , leading foreign companies, and working in foreign invested companies. Surely you must have a few down your neck of the wodss??
There are some foreigners in Nanning but not a lot. Only 7 million people in Nanning and that's a tier 3 city. So big compared to Canada standards but by Chinese not so big.
Gweilo 60 ! You failed to suggest in what kind of foriegners you see in China ? Only teachers , and those search a wife ?? Lol
Gweilo 60; I'm surprised with your comment on the oldest group of 'introverts.' Though you have a point about their heckling, they seem just like other laowais in China. Why classify people into stereotyped categories? It'd be great if you interview some reps from these groups. John Wang's right. I believe China is a compassionate country that allows people to be different and to find their way through life; not everyone is lucky to be happily married and settled with one partner! In some places, you seem to be so small minded, zooming in on their activities in Nanning. You should just smile at everyone, local or foreigner - citizens of the world. Why do you think China's opening up? Ad an important point - please don't nurture a 'blame others' culture. No one is responsible for what others think of you except yourself.
I thought you and your wife were moving back to Canada.
In the group of people you regard as older expats married to a Chinese lady what would you say is the average age difference? Is it acceptable in Chinese culture for a man lets say 60 and a woman age 40 or 45?
this a bit off the top. even though i was born in china, but a canadian now. i had actually been called a foreigner by local chinese even though i was born there and speak quite a bit of mandarin. i guess in their school system, they don't teach that oversea chinese are chinese, but foreigners in the strictest legal sense ?? china does not recognize dual citizenship.
WT, you are only a Chinese in Race but a Foreigner in Nationality
yes, i understand, my ethnicity is chinese. i think the proper term we use here in canada is that we are overseas chinese. of all my encounters with local chinese, only one described me as overseas chinese, i think this would be a proper term to describe oversea chinese and preferred by most of the chinese living in canada.
WT, The definition of Oversea Chinese in China is a person of Chinese Race born outside of China. Since you were born in China, strictly speaking, not a Oversea Chinese
DB, you are correct. WT may be culturally different from the Chinese Locals but his DNA is the same. As to the other 2 Outsiders? Well, just like a square pet in a round hole
Hi, this is interesting. In Buddhism they say that we should avoid having the discriminating mind. I feel that I have belonged to all 5!!! It depends on how you are with regards to stages in your life. There is only the now. So, it really depends. Who is foreign and who is Chinese? Dear Gweilo 60, may I tell you something!!! When I first went to China I loved Kung Fu and Chinese ladies. After a while I loved my Chinese girlfriend and drinking and having so may friends from all over the world. I was excited and life was more interesting than before. So, I managed to have another girlfriend and all that!!! Life flashed by me without letting me know the word: "AWAKEN!!!" I ended up realizing that things aren't really dependent on any egotistical plan. The main thing is that I was immensely happy when I lived In China at first, for , let me say, 5 years. Then, I realized that I could NEVER EVER BE Chinese. I then got disappointed with the OTHER!. I returned to the UK complaining in my head about this and that.
In my many years of living in China I have been one of the foreigners who loves Chinese culture and still does. And who sometimes has been a bit silly and complained. But I will always come back with more and more respect.
I hope this helps.
So ALL 5!!! Like we all can be, but we hope to be just the ONE!!!!
IF YOU TRY TO FIND IT IN ANY SCRIPTURE...YOU WILL BE LOST!!!
The Chan Masters say that the discriminating mind is not ideal as the True Nature.
I read this from the Transmission of the Lamp. Please don't believe or disbelieve me. I was not wanting to argue. I just agreed with what Gweilo 60 was saying.Non discriminating leads to equanimity. "At ease and without picking and choosing the enlightened heart emerges." That is from The Transmission of the Lamp. Pge 36 Volume Two.
Buddhists don't want to discriminate. Everyone is Equal.
MANURE IS SO USEFUL!!!
Zheese - as I see it, you only establish THREE categories - 1) People you like (such as yourself), 2) People you DON'T like, and 3) People you are neutral about.
Choose one.
Well, I'd hate to fall in your "BAD" category . . .
What about retirees?
That's basically group 3. I am seeing 2-3 more groups by all the feedback on this video. Maybe a number 2 in the works.
I like your video, thanks for sharing
I feel you are happy with your marriage, am I right? you always smell when you mention about your wife. Seems like there are very interesting stories behind.
Same as You Kirk? Yes met on line fell in love and bombed over to China in my next Holiday!!
4 days and the important question was asked!
YES!!!
So 14 years later sat with confidence loving my Wife and Daughter 11 this year!
David and Lily.
Met some 5ves in the Philippines= wherever you get a large mob of Girls stunning and adorable!!!
Group 5... “LBH”. Losers back home... cheers
Exactly TJ you get it.
easy chinese girls, well done.
Easy girls are everywhere , you can sleep with every different girl if you are in Africa, Philippines, and some other countries without marrying them. Chinese girls would always ask you to marry them. ..not easy..
People ask u where u are from? I usually get asked if I’m American, which I’m not. BTW, i fit into category number 3, though I’m not that old. You forgot to mention the disgruntled professionals who come here cause of their company back home, they’re on a high salary but don’t bother learning the language or culture, just complain about everything.