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As a Žalgiris fan all I can say is I’m jealous of Partizans pre game and during game and after game atmosphere. Hopefully we can get even a little bit close to that one day
10:00 the chant is the same melody but different words for Partizan and the red-white team. Its a melody from Italy, victor's march from Giuseppe Verdi's opera Aida, taken from football games over there. Fans sing different words with the melody. And of course uncultured and biased fans of Crvena zvezda will probably swarm the comments saying it was them who invented the song before one of the greatest Italian composers of 19th century. They are that insolent.
Nah bro, they know they didnt invent it. The thing is, its kinda lame that partizan fans are using the same melody that red star fans were using before they did
Im sure they know its not theirs as others have done it before them in football matches, but didnt they use it before Partizan fans. So realistically you are smearing red star fans while you used it after they started using it. Both of the teams names suck. Partizan represents the Communist Occupiers of Serbia and were funded by a Croatian Fascist Franjo. Red Star represent the Satanic Communist Red star which Partizan also has in their Logo. As a Serb I would rather them get rid of those names and use something Patriotic to Serbia, and not something from a oppressive Ideology that slaughtered its own people. Talking about Uncultured.
I really RESPECT the fact that you perform your national anthem before the game. Please, call it the Eternal Derby, showing respect to the rivalry, same as with the El Clasico. Zvezda started the chant as a form of defiance and the middle finger to the Euroleague after the death of Marko Ivković in Istanbul and the club was penalised for the death of their own fan in an away game. The idea was to "overpower" the Eurleague "anthem" and disrespect it's leadership (a quid pro quo so to say). The words are simple "Crvena Zvezda ale ale ale..." and the melody of the "anthem". Why and when Partizan started I really cannot say.
@filip9301 My father told me that he walked uphill to school and came back home also uphil, so I believe him. Could be but I don't really believe it. If you can find a video, I will eat my words. If Grobari started it, I'm still proud of THAT fact as a Serb.
ruclips.net/video/AYo6WOnaNCw/видео.htmlsi=K0b_hB7613xzteAV&t=212 (3:40) Here is an example of grobari chant that melody in 2011,and i am pretty sure that was not even a first time.I also think that is international ultras melody around globe,not sure. Marko Ivkovic killed in 2014 if i am not wrong
This chant Red Star fans are singing its because there was a killing in Istanbul when we played Galatasaray ,Red Star fan was killed.And Euroleague didnt do nothing,they said that Rad Star fans was the one who was making problems.And thats why we dont respect Euroleague Song on bigging of the game.We and Gravedigers ( Grobari ) WE SERBS JUST LOVE THIS GAME ❤🏀🏆🏅 Lot of love from the Red and Wite part of Belgrade.And that what we sing it sais ,Red Star ole ale ale.Thats it 😊
If you see Olympiacos in football there are coreos, pyroshows and bombs (ps:they got banned last year because a pao player got "ear problem" from a bomb that blasted next to him after Olympiacos scored a goal and now everything is more strict...) you will easily understand that the main reason is 1st and main reason is the stadium where the ultras are 30 meters away from the court 2nd is that not all fans are inside when the game start because goverment added a special proccess of identification in order to get in the stadium thats why in SEF everyone gets inside little by little 3d reason also includes the 1st one and its that most fans prefer football over basketball because of course you would prefer to sing with almost 10 thousand ultras side by side infront of the teams rather than go to SEF and sing with 2k max ultras since ultras can only have a small part of SEF that is also the furthest from the court... So in conclusion they dont feel that they can impact the other teams like in football... Maybe in some games like Olympiacos Monaco game 5 for example that more ultras get inside or with Panathinaikos the pregame is hotter with almost stadium singing 1hour before the beggining... As olympiacos fans we are patiently waiting in these months that the SEF will finaly belong to olympiacos as promised by the goverment just like OAKA with pao and it will finaly become an arena propably looking like Fener or Efes one with 16k capacity as we know so more ultras inside propably 4-5k just behind the basket it will be a different story pregame mid game full game... If you watch a football match of oly you will understand how different the whole situtation will be and if you think pao fans can be compared to ours you are confused by the stadium you have no clue... Right now gate 7 fans have no motivation to go to SEF and sing when they can go in football where we got the Conference and we go for Europa league and football is the main sport in Greece many dont even watch basketball, as for pao fans they ONLY have basketball left so of course all their main ultras go there while ours are mostly in football (for now) to help you understand we had a basketball game in SEF and at the same time an away game in football two times this year... Both times we sent 6k fans in Romania on thursday and 4k in away game in Greece on Sunday when we were playing against pao in SEF😂 So as you can see many prefer go support an away football against a low level greek team than go to SEF vs PAO😂
You forgot to mention that you are troumpaioi fans of results and in most games ur ''ultras'' dont even know the starting lineup and scream goal and offside when some1 make a bucket.
@@forgondor881 You talk about fans of result😂 You play football games in front of 1000 fans while we have 20k+ average attendance every single year😂 Talk about fans of result when your team was 17 in euroleague you broke the record of lowest attendance in euroleague😂😂😂
@@forgondor881 Just like our chant says about you "they are rabbits and hooligans of spray but deep down they are all gay" dont forget what you are green rabbit
@@forgondor881 "και γ.... ξανά τους πελάτες οι οπαδοί τους είναι όλοι ορειβάτες και γ..... ξανά τους πελάτες που τους γνωρίζουμε μοναχα από τις πλάτες, είναι λαγοί και χούλιγκαν των σπρέι μα καταβάθος είναι όλοι γκέι" 🐇☘️💅🥳🏃💨
Paetizan started the chant in late 80s and early 90s, Red Star added that Crvena Zveza ole part 10-15 years ago when they started singing it. Partizan version has no words besided na na na na, oooo ooo etc
An Olympiakos fan here. The empty seats are due to the poor organization outside the arena. Sometimes I had to wait outside for more than an hour to get in. Which means I even miss the first minutes of the match. About the atmosphere, In recent years it has really gone downhill. I would sometimes stand up to cheer on the team, but then people would complain from behind me to sit down 🤷♂️ only in the most intense matches where it really matters we see the old crazy atmosphere back❤️🤍
As a greek Olympiakos fan I will tell you why we arent really loud at pre game : 1 We greeks are always late 2 we save our energy for the start of the game 😂
Maybe you can do a video reacting to all time best atmospheres like panathinaikos barcelona 2011 or olympiakos barca 2015 or zvezda cska moscow and all that. I think it would be very good as the atmospheres in that video would be better cuz its all time
Maccabi used to have a great atmosphere too, it all depends on people’s temperaments.. Lithuanians care too much of what people will say or think if they’ll see them going mad…
@@milos-vv3gj Point is if you sing a preexisting song or melody you don't own it and people that use it before or after you don't own you anything Admit you actually thought the melody is your invention you had no idea it's more then a century old 🤣
so yeah,the "ole" or "ale" chant legit what u said the 2 teams will say their team name and "ole" or "ale" one of the many chants of both teams that are similair to eachother Love Basket News from Belgrade (Partizan Fan Btw) also keep being pro Partizan in the videos 😉⚫⚪⚫⚪
Partizan is way ahead in last 3 seasons, maybe before Crvena Zvezda was better, but nowdays its alot of empty spaces in Arena.... We can talk about full arena only when its Derbi...
Partizan PAO/Zvezda i would say kidna share this spot Zalgiris. thats my opinion. pretty subjective one. and yeah im zvezda fan and i have no issue saying partizan fans make better atmosphere... it would be kinda lame from me to say we are better when we are not. i would be kinda lying to myself
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10:00 right?! i was wondering the same thing about that chant. why do both serbian teams use it? i don't know if it's exactly the same but it sounds better from zvezda fans
Partizan started it in 80s, red star took it 10-15 years ago and added the part Crvena Zvezda ole, so Partizan is without words their has that third part. Everything else is the same
Red Starssong is mostly repeating"Zvezda (star), and ale ale,in rhythm. As a Red Star fan i am disappointed that on our home court is not sang our own anthem, which is well known to all Red Star fans. "Dobro znaj" which is much good as Partizan anthem or even better.
Let s explain first of all pregames song is not to intermediate opponent, this is for domestic players that have support! About song this song is Red Star, melodies is t ooket from Partizan, ussualy in early days fans not use songs from the opposite team! First off all those songs is almost 30 years tradion, both fans have repertoar songs deppens from sittuatin and those songs is not to intermediate opponent, sonng is to give momentum for the payers! Also we have songs about opponents, and that is not to expain here that is tradion! So everything what you here now generation and generation fans and players grow with this, and that is part of development, basketbakk, young players is first fans then some days be players, and everything is blood from the young agess! And nationall team is front off everything! Today we are opponent tommorow life is going on!
WTF are you talking about, its an italian song, zvezda doesnt have the copyright to it. That particular song was taken from football games in Italy. Its literally the melody of Giuseppe Verdi's Aida, you uncultured Crveni zvezdas.
It's Zvezdas chant, Partisan fans like to steal some of our chants, but they are also really crazy fans, at the moment, because they are winning, they are probabaly the best and if the winning strike goes on, it woukd be crazier from game to game. When we played Barca (Zvezda) it was insane, probably because of winning strike...
I am Partizan fun, and i dont know why we sing " NA NA NA NA NAN NAAAAA NA" like the monkeys from a Red Star!! Is so much better when we sing Partizan ol ol ole PAOK ole ole ole
not basketball, but i'd like to share this, crvena zvezda vs liverpool, liverpool commentator himself said he's never seen anything like this, even though liverpool fans are thought to be some of the best in the world :D ruclips.net/video/1A-owH8OTwg/видео.html , also this one is legendary, from the same match - ruclips.net/video/5LG_USOpojE/видео.html
Given that both Partizan and Zvezda have great fans, it is very likely that Grobari-PAR(Gravediggers) and Cigani-ZVE(Gypsies) probably are the best basketball fans in the world. The only difference is when visiting the Belgrade arena, where Partizan always has a full house no matter who the opponent is, while Zvezda this does not. So, we come to the conclusion that ONLY GROBARI are by far the best basketball fans in the world.🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍
ruclips.net/video/CbLGuRMl1Lo/видео.htmlsi=-Kg3h0EapdMtWj1r Partizan vs Siena 13years ago And before that this song was already active on Partizan matches. So please I know you are following basketball since 2015, but Go learn some history before you comment. ;)
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1. Partizan
2. Zvezda
3. Zalgiris
As a Žalgiris fan all I can say is I’m jealous of Partizans pre game and during game and after game atmosphere.
Hopefully we can get even a little bit close to that one day
dude- as zvezda fan im jealous xD
10:00 the chant is the same melody but different words for Partizan and the red-white team. Its a melody from Italy, victor's march from Giuseppe Verdi's opera Aida, taken from football games over there. Fans sing different words with the melody. And of course uncultured and biased fans of Crvena zvezda will probably swarm the comments saying it was them who invented the song before one of the greatest Italian composers of 19th century. They are that insolent.
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Nah bro, they know they didnt invent it. The thing is, its kinda lame that partizan fans are using the same melody that red star fans were using before they did
Im sure they know its not theirs as others have done it before them in football matches, but didnt they use it before Partizan fans. So realistically you are smearing red star fans while you used it after they started using it. Both of the teams names suck. Partizan represents the Communist Occupiers of Serbia and were funded by a Croatian Fascist Franjo. Red Star represent the Satanic Communist Red star which Partizan also has in their Logo. As a Serb I would rather them get rid of those names and use something Patriotic to Serbia, and not something from a oppressive Ideology that slaughtered its own people. Talking about Uncultured.
I really RESPECT the fact that you perform your national anthem before the game. Please, call it the Eternal Derby, showing respect to the rivalry, same as with the El Clasico.
Zvezda started the chant as a form of defiance and the middle finger to the Euroleague after the death of Marko Ivković in Istanbul and the club was penalised for the death of their own fan in an away game. The idea was to "overpower" the Eurleague "anthem" and disrespect it's leadership (a quid pro quo so to say). The words are simple "Crvena Zvezda ale ale ale..." and the melody of the "anthem". Why and when Partizan started I really cannot say.
Partizan started before..i think 2009 or even 2008 i saw some videos also my father is hardcore fan..so he told me..
@filip9301 My father told me that he walked uphill to school and came back home also uphil, so I believe him.
Could be but I don't really believe it. If you can find a video, I will eat my words. If Grobari started it, I'm still proud of THAT fact as a Serb.
@@milangrujicic4679 well for just an easy example..this game was in 2014..u have video on yt where grobari sing this song agains Rad 2013...
Grobari started that chant in late 80s and early 90s, you've added it in the Eurolegaue. Never sang it before that
ruclips.net/video/AYo6WOnaNCw/видео.htmlsi=K0b_hB7613xzteAV&t=212 (3:40) Here is an example of grobari chant that melody in 2011,and i am pretty sure that was not even a first time.I also think that is international ultras melody around globe,not sure.
Marko Ivkovic killed in 2014 if i am not wrong
Partizan 🖤🤍🥇💪💪💪
This chant Red Star fans are singing its because there was a killing in Istanbul when we played Galatasaray ,Red Star fan was killed.And Euroleague didnt do nothing,they said that Rad Star fans was the one who was making problems.And thats why we dont respect Euroleague Song on bigging of the game.We and Gravedigers ( Grobari ) WE SERBS JUST LOVE THIS GAME ❤🏀🏆🏅 Lot of love from the Red and Wite part of Belgrade.And that what we sing it sais ,Red Star ole ale ale.Thats it 😊
ruclips.net/video/AYo6WOnaNCw/видео.html
olympiakos fan, absolutely right, the serbs start from the begining, we in greece start later haha
bless you all
If you see Olympiacos in football there are coreos, pyroshows and bombs (ps:they got banned last year because a pao player got "ear problem" from a bomb that blasted next to him after Olympiacos scored a goal and now everything is more strict...) you will easily understand that the main reason is 1st and main reason is the stadium where the ultras are 30 meters away from the court 2nd is that not all fans are inside when the game start because goverment added a special proccess of identification in order to get in the stadium thats why in SEF everyone gets inside little by little 3d reason also includes the 1st one and its that most fans prefer football over basketball because of course you would prefer to sing with almost 10 thousand ultras side by side infront of the teams rather than go to SEF and sing with 2k max ultras since ultras can only have a small part of SEF that is also the furthest from the court... So in conclusion they dont feel that they can impact the other teams like in football... Maybe in some games like Olympiacos Monaco game 5 for example that more ultras get inside or with Panathinaikos the pregame is hotter with almost stadium singing 1hour before the beggining... As olympiacos fans we are patiently waiting in these months that the SEF will finaly belong to olympiacos as promised by the goverment just like OAKA with pao and it will finaly become an arena propably looking like Fener or Efes one with 16k capacity as we know so more ultras inside propably 4-5k just behind the basket it will be a different story pregame mid game full game... If you watch a football match of oly you will understand how different the whole situtation will be and if you think pao fans can be compared to ours you are confused by the stadium you have no clue... Right now gate 7 fans have no motivation to go to SEF and sing when they can go in football where we got the Conference and we go for Europa league and football is the main sport in Greece many dont even watch basketball, as for pao fans they ONLY have basketball left so of course all their main ultras go there while ours are mostly in football (for now) to help you understand we had a basketball game in SEF and at the same time an away game in football two times this year... Both times we sent 6k fans in Romania on thursday and 4k in away game in Greece on Sunday when we were playing against pao in SEF😂 So as you can see many prefer go support an away football against a low level greek team than go to SEF vs PAO😂
I thought there must be a reason behind it, thanks for such a detailed explanation 🤝
You forgot to mention that you are troumpaioi fans of results and in most games ur ''ultras'' dont even know the starting lineup and scream goal and offside when some1 make a bucket.
@@forgondor881 You talk about fans of result😂 You play football games in front of 1000 fans while we have 20k+ average attendance every single year😂 Talk about fans of result when your team was 17 in euroleague you broke the record of lowest attendance in euroleague😂😂😂
@@forgondor881 Just like our chant says about you "they are rabbits and hooligans of spray but deep down they are all gay" dont forget what you are green rabbit
@@forgondor881 "και γ.... ξανά τους πελάτες οι οπαδοί τους είναι όλοι ορειβάτες και γ..... ξανά τους πελάτες που τους γνωρίζουμε μοναχα από τις πλάτες, είναι λαγοί και χούλιγκαν των σπρέι μα καταβάθος είναι όλοι γκέι" 🐇☘️💅🥳🏃💨
Paetizan started the chant in late 80s and early 90s, Red Star added that Crvena Zveza ole part 10-15 years ago when they started singing it. Partizan version has no words besided na na na na, oooo ooo etc
An Olympiakos fan here. The empty seats are due to the poor organization outside the arena. Sometimes I had to wait outside for more than an hour to get in. Which means I even miss the first minutes of the match. About the atmosphere, In recent years it has really gone downhill. I would sometimes stand up to cheer on the team, but then people would complain from behind me to sit down 🤷♂️ only in the most intense matches where it really matters we see the old crazy atmosphere back❤️🤍
As a greek Olympiakos fan I will tell you why we arent really loud at pre game :
1 We greeks are always late
2 we save our energy for the start of the game 😂
Lol, good one, bro :)
Maybe you can do a video reacting to all time best atmospheres like panathinaikos barcelona 2011 or olympiakos barca 2015 or zvezda cska moscow and all that. I think it would be very good as the atmospheres in that video would be better cuz its all time
I’ll do an all-time one in the future, for sure 👌
Maccabi used to have a great atmosphere too, it all depends on people’s temperaments.. Lithuanians care too much of what people will say or think if they’ll see them going mad…
The Crvena Zveda song has a melody written by Giuseppe Verdi in the 19th century
It's not their original they don't own it 😂
yes but we started doing it before you
@@milos-vv3gj And we started using "You'll never walk alone" before you,so?That means nothing
@ when do we sing you’ll never walk alone????😂
@@milos-vv3gj Point is if you sing a preexisting song or melody you don't own it and people that use it before or after you don't own you anything
Admit you actually thought the melody is your invention you had no idea it's more then a century old 🤣
so yeah,the "ole" or "ale" chant legit what u said
the 2 teams will say their team name and "ole" or "ale"
one of the many chants of both teams that are similair to eachother
Love Basket News from Belgrade (Partizan Fan Btw) also keep being pro Partizan in the videos 😉⚫⚪⚫⚪
You are Grobar!! 🖤💪
Partizan is way ahead in last 3 seasons, maybe before Crvena Zvezda was better, but nowdays its alot of empty spaces in Arena.... We can talk about full arena only when its Derbi...
tebra ne seri molim te, ove sezone svaka utakmica je bila rasprodata i vama i nama
Bukvalno druga stvar sto partizan pusta i preko 20.000 a zvezda ne
For the Olympiakos fans... We are just late for everything 😂 we taking it cool in Greece
10:00 is a chant that clubs usually sing when playing european competitions.
What is Real Madrid in basketball terms, Partizan is in fan terms
Chant you like is Red Star.
Bro, come to Belgrade and be our guest in the derby. You have to feel the atmosphere and emotion live 🖤🤍
Watch out Partizan Barcelona 2010
As you said, in Greece we dont have a pregame ritual. We should though!
Partizan
PAO/Zvezda i would say kidna share this spot
Zalgiris.
thats my opinion. pretty subjective one. and yeah im zvezda fan and i have no issue saying partizan fans make better atmosphere... it would be kinda lame from me to say we are better when we are not. i would be kinda lying to myself
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10:00 right?! i was wondering the same thing about that chant. why do both serbian teams use it? i don't know if it's exactly the same but it sounds better from zvezda fans
Partizan started it in 80s, red star took it 10-15 years ago and added the part Crvena Zvezda ole, so Partizan is without words their has that third part. Everything else is the same
@RobertELee1418 ah that makes sense thank you
Bro thats triumphal march from Giuseppe Verdi no one copy others...
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Red Starssong is mostly repeating"Zvezda (star), and ale ale,in rhythm. As a Red Star fan i am disappointed that on our home court is not sang our own anthem, which is well known to all Red Star fans. "Dobro znaj" which is much good as Partizan anthem or even better.
Let s explain first of all pregames song is not to intermediate opponent, this is for domestic players that have support! About song this song is Red Star, melodies is t
ooket from Partizan, ussualy in early days fans not use songs from the opposite team! First off all those songs is almost 30 years tradion, both fans have repertoar songs deppens from sittuatin and those songs is not to intermediate opponent, sonng is to give momentum for the payers! Also we have songs about opponents, and that is not to expain here that is tradion! So everything what you here now generation and generation fans and players grow with this, and that is part of development, basketbakk, young players is first fans then some days be players, and everything is blood from the young agess! And nationall team is front off everything! Today we are opponent tommorow life is going on!
Can someone tell me the name of the guy in this video
Its Crvena Zvezda song Partizan is copying Crvena Zvezda
WTF are you talking about, its an italian song, zvezda doesnt have the copyright to it. That particular song was taken from football games in Italy. Its literally the melody of Giuseppe Verdi's Aida, you uncultured Crveni zvezdas.
The melody was written by Giuseppe Verdi in the 19th
century
They do it better anyway
It's not a song it's a melody and we started using it before you
Nope. ruclips.net/video/CbLGuRMl1Lo/видео.html this video is 13 years old
Panathinaikos ir Olympiakos neteisingai kirčiuojama
many songs like the one you like so much are universal and mostly come from football and also from other countries
Zvezda started it first
You started everything 😂
Red Star is the best❤
It's Zvezdas chant, Partisan fans like to steal some of our chants, but they are also really crazy fans, at the moment, because they are winning, they are probabaly the best and if the winning strike goes on, it woukd be crazier from game to game. When we played Barca (Zvezda) it was insane, probably because of winning strike...
Euroleague commentators are awful - sound like they came from UK highschool 2nd league
Partizan is copying
I am Partizan fun, and i dont know why we sing " NA NA NA NA NAN NAAAAA NA" like the monkeys from a Red Star!! Is so much better when we sing Partizan ol ol ole PAOK ole ole ole
not basketball, but i'd like to share this, crvena zvezda vs liverpool, liverpool commentator himself said he's never seen anything like this, even though liverpool fans are thought to be some of the best in the world :D ruclips.net/video/1A-owH8OTwg/видео.html , also this one is legendary, from the same match - ruclips.net/video/5LG_USOpojE/видео.html
Given that both Partizan and Zvezda have great fans, it is very likely that Grobari-PAR(Gravediggers) and Cigani-ZVE(Gypsies) probably are the best basketball fans in the world. The only difference is when visiting the Belgrade arena, where Partizan always has a full house no matter who the opponent is, while Zvezda this does not. So, we come to the conclusion that ONLY GROBARI are by far the best basketball fans in the world.🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍
Partizan is copying
Tvoju kevu
Partizan copying croatian song ,, kad palme njisu grane,, like own anthem!!!
@@srdjanzrakic3727 njišem ti se sa švecom i kevom 😂😂😂
ruclips.net/video/CbLGuRMl1Lo/видео.htmlsi=-Kg3h0EapdMtWj1r
Partizan vs Siena 13years ago
And before that this song was already active on Partizan matches.
So please
I know you are following basketball since 2015, but
Go learn some history before you comment. ;)
We've done this theme before you tzigo