Why I Left Mormonism

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • Tanner explains why he left the Mormon church after growing up LDS, serving a mission, and being a devout member his entire life.
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  • @ZelphOntheShelf
    @ZelphOntheShelf  5 лет назад +94

    Hey guys! If you liked this video, please consider supporting us! 🙏🏻
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    • @smdh99
      @smdh99 5 лет назад +4

      @WC
      Hasn't your church been
      selling BS for personal
      gain?⚠
      .

    • @jameshasapoint7628
      @jameshasapoint7628 4 года назад

      Try getting jobs, ya wannabe priestcrafty aputzstates.

    • @mikes-bmedic5484
      @mikes-bmedic5484 3 года назад +1

      @WC if you have a problem with Tanner get the LDS Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and the Prophet stop being a salary paid for by tithes and interest earned by the billions of dollars in mormon investments..
      The apostles are selling YOUR Heavenly Father for gain. Hypocrites
      Sickeningly when the church demands families in 3rd world country who can’t feed themselves to pay tithes. That’s taking more food from their children.

    • @lastfanstanding999
      @lastfanstanding999 3 года назад

      Thank God I'm an Atheist !!!
      (i hate people who hate people!) all joking aside: check out this link below!
      ruclips.net/p/PLLUcvp8IbwosaBE9ed7jNaLX1NWmAldvZ

  • @thejesuschrist
    @thejesuschrist 5 лет назад +306

    Awesome testimony my dude!

    • @javi4282
      @javi4282 3 года назад +8

      Wtf haha

    • @daveyjones9930
      @daveyjones9930 3 года назад +9

      J.C
      DAMN!!
      You *ARE* everywhere, aren't you!?!?

    • @areia8994
      @areia8994 3 года назад +15

      how tf u verified as jesus christ

    • @ParkerDude
      @ParkerDude 2 года назад +4

      thank you for saving me jesus 🙏

  • @lovebaileymarin
    @lovebaileymarin 5 лет назад +328

    “ The only after life insurance plan that had ever been pitched to me.” BAAAAhahaah!

  • @evanrasmussen6572
    @evanrasmussen6572 5 лет назад +169

    “Ain’t no answer like no answer” I got a silver medal in that mental gymnastics category. And your stand up was great. Good times.

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 5 лет назад +2

      Yes it was the mental gymnastics and finally confronting reality that finely wore me out.

    • @the-salamander4truth
      @the-salamander4truth Год назад

      I knew I recognized you from the medal ceremony. I won bronze!

  • @jimmysnow
    @jimmysnow 5 лет назад +363

    Remember the F

    • @ilackofbeliefofmacro-evolu2827
      @ilackofbeliefofmacro-evolu2827 5 лет назад

      Let's say 👉 *IF* 👈 a holy, loving, perfect, all knowing and a just God did exist (not the Christian God or any other goddess known around the world, but a God in general) that is responsible for all creation that you see and don't see (including the laws of physics that governs it), and Is outside of his creation thus he is not bound by them, and as a inventor designer and creator of all things, he can manipulate, break the rules or rewrite them whenever he pleased; would you then accepted him as your God and listen to his infinite wisdom and obey it since you knew he was a loving and trustworthy God and he is all knowing and his wisdom is infinite and yours is limited?...

    • @5avan10
      @5avan10 5 лет назад +15

      @@ilackofbeliefofmacro-evolu2827 If such a being exists outside of the universe and independent from its physical laws, then how could you possibly know such a being exists in order to listen to and obey it in the first place? Let me ask you in return; if an invisible and undetectable teapot was floating around the rings of Saturn that had all the answers to immortality, life, the universe, and everything stored inside of it, would you support a costly NASA program to go there and retrieve all those answers?

    • @acronen
      @acronen 5 лет назад +9

      @@ilackofbeliefofmacro-evolu2827 You present a lot of "ifs" and qualifiers that we have no substantiated evidence or reason to believe in. Step one is to demonstrate these qualifiers. Hell, I'll make it easy for you, start by demonstrating just one of those extraordinary qualifiers/claims. Do that, and if it can be reasonably confirmed I will at least believe in that being. Accepting it? Well, that all depends on what this entity stands for. If it's an asshole, I surely won't, but I'll still believe it exists.

    • @avitheproject
      @avitheproject 5 лет назад +5

      Please make a vidoe about kwaku using the septuagint as a proff of the book of mormon

    • @Tamdietz
      @Tamdietz 5 лет назад +4

      Please do a collaboration with Zelph.

  • @rachelharrison8738
    @rachelharrison8738 5 лет назад +140

    the power and majesty of your mustache is enough to tear down mormonism alone. in all seriousness though, you're incredibly smart, eloquent, and passionate. i'm so happy for you finding your freedom and self love. i departed from catholocism and the feeling of the weight of suffocating under lies being lifted is unparalleled.

  • @1kitchensinger
    @1kitchensinger 3 года назад +81

    I will be sharing this video withmy 13-year-old son who has to go to the Mormon Church every-other week with his dad. I can't stomach the thought of him going through life in the cult.

    • @ladyashington8135
      @ladyashington8135 2 года назад +1

      I was born in the church and have been attending the church for years now. I couldn't imagine my life without the gospel. I'm happier than most people I know because I have the gospel in my life. Brainwashing your son into thinking that the church isn't true is inviting the devil into his brain and making him think that worldly things are more important than the Lord. Wouldn't really make you a great mother. Tbh

    • @1kitchensinger
      @1kitchensinger 2 года назад +28

      @@ladyashington8135 Thank you for your respectful opinion. I have no energy to give to you for a reply. I wish you well in life. My son may be your brain surgeon someday. I hope it doesn't matter that a non-mormon saves your life.

    • @loganpurser3554
      @loganpurser3554 2 года назад +1

      @@ladyashington8135 you are the brainwashed one

    • @lokelaufeyson9931
      @lokelaufeyson9931 Год назад +3

      @@1kitchensinger nice reply, true and respectfull

    • @Icanonlyimagn7891
      @Icanonlyimagn7891 Год назад

      The Church of Jesus Christ is so hope-filled and strengthening in a world where everything is upside down.
      Satan hates all things good, virtuous, peace filled, hope-filled, faith building. He doesn’t want your son to have meaning and peace in his life.
      These videos seek to destroy all faith… they do nothing to build or strengthen anything good. They only seek to destroy anything of value. Sad, but true. 🙏🏻💕

  • @caleb8239
    @caleb8239 5 лет назад +335

    I see what the problem is here. You did research! Research isn't the answer! Trust me, I've never done any so I should know!

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 5 лет назад +20

      "Yeah, I read the CES letter. It really strengthened my testimony, it's gotta be true if Satan is working this hard against it!"

    • @ashleyjohnston9282
      @ashleyjohnston9282 5 лет назад +2

      Xenon 😂

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 5 лет назад +6

      Ya the Church has gotta be true even if it is false, Satan and Joseph Smith’s behavior have piled a massive amount of historical evidence which discredited the church, not to also mention the CES letter.

    • @lilchristian3260
      @lilchristian3260 5 лет назад +3

      Steve Smith Mormons day we are the true Christianity yet they deny the Bible and Joseph Smith was a creator of a religion that has lead millions to Hell

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 5 лет назад

      SlavishCrib820 SlavishCrib820 religions are a mythology it is always about us against them. There are no holy books or holy men, just a lot of self righteous bull shit. You can’t love and hate your brother at the same, better look in the mirror before start pointing fingers.

  • @swagner7767
    @swagner7767 5 лет назад +189

    "I honestly hoped I'd get hit by a bus so I could be sent home with honor." Are you sure I didn't ghostwrite this one? Because that is a thought I had _verbatim_ on the mission.

    • @MrKyle029
      @MrKyle029 5 лет назад +20

      I'm glad I dodged this bullet. I tried to go on a mission. I was honest and told them I had been living with my girlfriend and they told me a mission wasn't for me. At that time, I was full heartedly into the church. I realized that they weren't receiving revelation.BIG turning point for me.

    • @DancingQueenie
      @DancingQueenie 5 лет назад +13

      Preston
      My ex hubs spent 2.5 years in north Germany. They rode bikes summer and winter. Winter. In Hamburg bordering the North Sea. How much 'success' did they have? ZERO.

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 5 лет назад +8

      I went on my mission to Michigan. For the first year I kept wondering when this was going to start being fun. The hardest part was getting used to Elders born and raised in Utah.

    • @oznerriznick2474
      @oznerriznick2474 5 лет назад

      The mission can be a difficult thing. I went to Guatemala. I spent 22 months in the forest with the Quiche people. I had to learn two languages. It was tough. A Guatemalan captain captured us and held us at gun point while they interogated us.
      I got diarhea multiple times. I missed my home, family, friends and girlfriend. I had only marginal success.
      Now...where there was only a branch there is a stake. Where there were no temples there are now three.
      I returned honorably, married my then girlfriend and now we have grandchildren. One of them is named Preston. I called a friend from Guatemala who I hadn't talked to in many years. He has a big family and most of them are good members of the church. We both shed tears as we talked. Knowing what I know now, would I do it again? In a heart beat.

    • @shawnreed7876
      @shawnreed7876 5 лет назад +8

      @@MrKyle029 You are fortunate. Those two years of my mission are two years I'll never get back. Life is short. Your 20s are as good as it gets (at least health wise). Spend it doing something worthwhile (as in something you will be happy you did later in life).

  • @Lis-ek9wm
    @Lis-ek9wm 5 лет назад +141

    "I was shaken... not stirred." Got an lol from me.

  • @n4musica
    @n4musica Год назад +14

    I am not Mormon, but Christian and was raised in a pretty fundamentalist way. I totally felt it when you said “Everyday I am consciously grateful I made it out.” I feel that way 100%.

  • @terrywalk6162
    @terrywalk6162 5 лет назад +185

    Mr. Atheist sent me here. I am glad he did.

    • @russelledwards7084
      @russelledwards7084 5 лет назад

      Psalms 14:1 the fool said in his heart there is no God. The bible spoke about you well before you were a athiest.

    • @utah133
      @utah133 4 года назад +2

      I'm Mr. Atheist before the real Mr. Atheist ever thought of it

  • @petrakakytch4809
    @petrakakytch4809 5 лет назад +83

    "afterlife insurance plan"
    Tanner, darling... The way you express yourself is awesome and maybe you should start thinking about writing :D

  • @danielameza4907
    @danielameza4907 2 года назад +32

    This felt so personal. I almost cried at the end, I feel like I want the whole world to watch this. And it's so funny because the church is always encouraging people to share the gospel because it's the most beautiful thing, but I actually had to force myself most of the time to push it onto people, it was actually out of guilt of not getting my exaltation, not because I actually wanted everyone to be in the church. But now I genuinely just wish my family and friends could find out the thruth about the church and run away

  • @kelseyreynolds1548
    @kelseyreynolds1548 5 лет назад +66

    As traumatizing as the mission was.. I am glad I went! I think the reality of disappointment that I experienced was my stepping stone out of the church. I thought it would strengthen my testimony but it just showed me everything messed up with the church instead. I also had the exact same thought while riding bikes that if I was to get hit by a car I could go home!! Haha seriously so messed up!

    • @chanah-hoa5106
      @chanah-hoa5106 2 года назад

      I was traumatised on my mission when I heard that in Queensland Australia all Samoan and Tongan wards were cancelled and everyone to go to English speaking wards. I thought why is it happening there if it ain’t happening all around the world? Most of my family don’t speak English there yet they get forced. A lot made there own churches based off Mormon teachings and most of my family started their own church. I mean the church was taken to court and the people won, which bought back the language wards. Now I know why they cancelled the Samoan wards because there were no one in the English wards. 50 people compared to 400 plus people in Samoan wards. People had to have permission to go to Samoan and Tongan wards… 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 2 года назад +1

      ​@Flydrip Tik Tok Shorts missions are less about recuiting and more about brainwashing. if you get through you're probably more likely to stay with the cult. therefore you have to say it was great because thats what's expected.

  • @BethanyKay
    @BethanyKay 5 лет назад +103

    This. Is. AMAZING. I wish ALL Mormons could watch this!!!

    • @MrPonytron
      @MrPonytron 3 года назад +3

      So glad I don't listen to the Mormon church anymore

    • @justinportnoy1261
      @justinportnoy1261 3 года назад +1

      Me too!!!

    • @slicedhippy7776
      @slicedhippy7776 3 года назад +1

      Only when they are ready

    • @alanshumway2541
      @alanshumway2541 3 года назад +1

      I don’t! Mormonism is a Satanic product of Freemasons, who are Luciferians. I have blood ties to three out of four of Joseph Smith’s grandparents..
      Young Tanner fell short when he very ignorantly mocked Jesus Christ, the Son of God!!!
      You might as well have stayed Mormon at that point. Go ahead and drink from the World’s cup, light candles, play with dolls, put on a dress, whatever. You are not a woman and are never going to have a baby. There is some more real Truth. You are still deeply deceived and confused.
      Btw, since we are all highly literate and besides the fact the the B of M is a total farce. God did tell Abraham to kill his innocent Son. Then, “The True God of Love” stopped his hand and sent him a Ram, for a blood sacrifice. That’s in the Holy Bible, if you read it. It’s kinda an important story, too! LOL
      Also, when you are done becoming your own God..like your ancestors and if you can humble yourself. You need to repent for them and renounce what they did. While you are at it, you can bind and cast out the spirit of Homosexuality, in the all conquering name of Jesus Christ. Maybe, have a family instead of sugar and demons in your gas tank.
      Fact check me! Lol. God Bless!

    • @alanshumway2541
      @alanshumway2541 3 года назад

      I don’t! Mormonism is a Satanic product of Freemasons, who are Luciferians. I have blood ties to three out of four of Joseph Smith’s grandparents..
      Young Tanner fell short when he very ignorantly mocked Jesus Christ, the Son of God!!!
      You might as well have stayed Mormon at that point. Go ahead and drink from the World’s cup, light candles, play with dolls, put on a dress, whatever. You are not a woman and are never going to have a baby. There is some more real Truth. You are still deeply deceived and confused.
      Btw, since we are all highly literate and besides the fact the the B of M is a total farce. God did tell Abraham to kill his innocent Son. Then, “The True God of Love” stopped his hand and sent him a Ram, for a blood sacrifice. That’s in the Holy Bible, if you read it. It’s kinda an important story, too! LOL
      Also, when you are done becoming your own God..like your ancestors and if you can humble yourself. You need to repent for them and renounce what they did. While you are at it, you can bind and cast out the spirit of Homosexuality, in the all conquering name of Jesus Christ. Maybe, have a family instead of sugar and demons in your gas tank.
      Fact check me! Lol. God Bless!

  • @meganrasmussen9595
    @meganrasmussen9595 3 года назад +36

    It is so, so good to know I'm not alone. I'm in Rexburg right now and the amount of delusion is unreal... thank you.

    • @KristinaUSA-x5n
      @KristinaUSA-x5n 2 года назад

      Sounds like the area a lot of my family is in Idaho.

  • @apierrechartrand2359
    @apierrechartrand2359 5 лет назад +125

    You really have a way with words!!! Really enjoyed listening to you. Love your irony to describe the sad but TRUE reality of Mormonism.

    • @ladyashington8135
      @ladyashington8135 2 года назад

      It's actually Beautiful, you just have a wrong perception of what is or isn't beautiful.

  • @InsomniaticDND
    @InsomniaticDND 3 года назад +19

    Hi from England. I'm currently in the middle of my own faith crisis. I've been mormon my whole 36 years on earth and struggling with the idea my whole life and culture have been a lie.

    • @CM-qe3vp
      @CM-qe3vp 3 года назад +2

      Read your Bible. God’s truth is there.❤️🙏🏻

  • @bsanders1
    @bsanders1 5 лет назад +78

    Just like the CES letter: short, powerful authentic...

    • @thekolobsociety
      @thekolobsociety 5 лет назад +3

      The CES letter is the worst put together complaint about the Church ever.

    • @english-tudor
      @english-tudor 5 лет назад +12

      @@thekolobsociety do not conflate complaint with the presentation of hidden truths.

  • @brittanyclark8943
    @brittanyclark8943 4 года назад +19

    That was incredible. I'm also an ex-mormon and this brought me to tears. I feel the exact same way, I wouldn't change a thing because it made me who I am today.

  • @hausofphid3966
    @hausofphid3966 5 лет назад +30

    Well, if this isn't the most relatable content on RUclips, I don't know what is.

  • @jessibraun75
    @jessibraun75 4 года назад +7

    This was one of the best uses of my time in all my 29 years of life. Not even joking. Thank you. 👏❤

  • @ObscurasCozyCult
    @ObscurasCozyCult 5 лет назад +53

    I already had one foot out of the church by the time I attended BYUI.... being there just helped seal the deal on my exit from the church.

  • @Ennbra
    @Ennbra 5 лет назад +12

    This was so beautiful- thank you Tanner for sharing such vulnerable thoughts! I know the work you’ve done on this channel have helped me tremendously in the past year of my leaving. Thank you, Zelph!

  • @mckenziepapenfuss1431
    @mckenziepapenfuss1431 5 лет назад +28

    You have such a way with words and writing. I hope you write a book someday!

  • @utah133
    @utah133 5 лет назад +61

    My escape started with Googling one question: "How did Mormon polygamy start?"

    • @kennethd.9436
      @kennethd.9436 5 лет назад +14

      rationalguy Awesome. I learned about the Book of Abraham and Wikipedia articles looking at the Church’s finances and assets.

  • @Richard.Atkinson
    @Richard.Atkinson 2 года назад +8

    I also remember the final day of Sunday School I had to sit through. The teacher kept talking about how she personally knew Dick Cheney (you know, the most notorious war criminal of my lifetime?) and how he was such a wonderful man. Nobody in the room acted like this was crazy. That was the last straw for me.

  • @andreathomas3170
    @andreathomas3170 5 лет назад +8

    You did an excellent job in this video. I can really relate to all of it, and like you, I'm thankful for my Mormon heritage, left it, never have looked back, best thing I ever did! You did everything short of turning yourself inside out to find a crumb of truth. Thank you for sharing so openly and freely.

  • @kourt2469
    @kourt2469 5 лет назад +42

    Didn’t realize how much I appreciate tanner. Sandra tanner and now you. 👍

  • @loganduffy4697
    @loganduffy4697 5 лет назад +45

    Moved me to tears at the end. I hope to one day get to this point and to love myself in the way you describe. Hope to become a patron once I’m on my feet.

    • @TanishaMartin
      @TanishaMartin 5 лет назад +3

      You can and you will. All the best to you 💞

  • @jacquiefraser6300
    @jacquiefraser6300 5 лет назад +5

    There needs to be a Love button on RUclips. I've just found you, circa yesterday, and I love your heart and soul. I'm an exmo as well, and I applaud your resolve and strength to spread the REAL word.

  • @LittleEmm1979
    @LittleEmm1979 5 лет назад +13

    What a powerful, eloquent story. I can relate to your desire to prove your faith was right and stay in church, I was the same when I began seeing the inaccuracies and indoctrination in my evangelical upbringing and beliefs. I'm so glad you found who you truly are and I agree, our pasts shape us to where we are today. I'm vassilate between being glad of my upbringing and saddened by it. There's parts I have kept in how I've raised my son and others I haven't but I know I'm glad I am who I am today.

  • @ramywiles
    @ramywiles 5 лет назад +9

    This is an incredibly powerful story; thanks for sharing it. I didn't grow up Mormon myself -- far from it -- but I can relate to the feeling of praying harder than ever before and just feeling nothing. It was devastating then, and it still makes me sad to think about my tiny self, laying in my bed, staring up at my canopy, trying so hard but ultimately failing to hear the voice of God answering her questions. I guess I got lucky that I had this internal struggle without such extreme, all-encompassing influences in my life.

  • @elspethawake4541
    @elspethawake4541 5 лет назад +41

    Tanner's story lets me know there is hope for all the current straitlaced Mormons.

    • @TanishaMartin
      @TanishaMartin 5 лет назад +2

      My thoughts too! Gives me hope especially for my family 💞

  • @BreastCancerBabe
    @BreastCancerBabe 5 лет назад +34

    Thank you thank you for this video! I needed this today! The struggle and journey out of a cult can be lonely and scary at times and I needed the reminder that I don’t want to be a part of a cult! No matter how much of my world it was!!! I was just like you...so devoted and can soooo relate! Thank you! Love your Spirit!!!

  • @autumn7809
    @autumn7809 3 года назад +7

    I moved to Arizona in 8th grade and met mormons for the first time. Even after being close friends with multiple members for years, there's still so much that's so hazy about that life. Thanks for shedding some light .

  • @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112
    @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 5 лет назад +82

    Thanks Tanner.
    You are a light of this world, a city set on a hill and cannot be hid.
    Keep sharing your videos, you guys help realise they are not alone and that they are not crazy.

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад

      please do not apply scripture to people who mock and make fun of the guy who said those words... haha both of the people on this channel put Jesus down constantly.

    • @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112
      @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 5 лет назад +9

      Kyle Braby Jesus is a big boy he can take it.

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад +1

      @@vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 What terrible logic and a poor attitude... Jesus himself asks people not to use His name in vain or have any evil in our words... He is a big boy but He also has some things called commandments that HE set.... mocking Jesus Christ himself is a big deal and anybody who believes in Him would stand up against anything like it.

    • @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112
      @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 5 лет назад +4

      Kyle Braby nah cuz, he can stand up for himself if he is really out there.
      Commandment shemandments.
      The bible is a cool book of mythology, and Jsuss is a cool character but we don’t need to pretend he was a real Demi-God zombie as told by the Bible.

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад

      @@vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 haha you make no sense why would you use the Bible to make a comment and then say its a load of garbage hahahaha you dont even believe Jesus...

  • @PlasmicPenny
    @PlasmicPenny Год назад +1

    Powerful, well spoken and touching. Letting oneself to be vulnerable is so hard but the result always lead to growth. I hope you are thriving ❤

  • @ET117
    @ET117 5 лет назад +8

    Watched it twice! Thank you for making this video, I get allot of validation from it.

  • @secondhandrooms507
    @secondhandrooms507 5 лет назад +27

    You give me hope that some childhood friend still might one day leave.
    .... I found my way out around the same time as you, and I watch your videos every time I go through the stages of grief again. They help. Thanks.

  • @keilanatalierose
    @keilanatalierose 5 лет назад +14

    "Aint no answer like no answer" I'm dying

  • @evanrasmussen6572
    @evanrasmussen6572 5 лет назад +16

    One video I would love is a Mormon Book Review video. You’ve read so many books and I’d love your thoughts on which ones are key, which ones aren’t and why. Just a suggestion for the suggestion box.

  • @aubrey6538
    @aubrey6538 Год назад +1

    I really liked this video, there’s so many exit stories out there. Were they ramble on and on and they never really seem to get to the point. This was very clear concise, and it flowed well.

  • @cathh9215
    @cathh9215 5 лет назад +16

    You are a very impressive, talented human, Tanner. I am a non-Mormon but so enjoy your channel. Can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers. ❤️

    • @meghansullivan6812
      @meghansullivan6812 3 года назад

      Same! I was never Mormon nor do I know any but I find these types of videos fascinating!!!

  • @crikey47
    @crikey47 5 лет назад +20

    I am going to save this and play it for anybody who asks why I left the church. This is so well covered and is so close to my own experience. The multitude of reasons make it hard to give a short answer without sounding insincere, but this pretty much wraps it up.

  • @dickenscider4975
    @dickenscider4975 5 лет назад +30

    This makes me feel sorrow. After hearing how you lived your life as a kid. I think of all the kids going thru the same mental mind fuck. As I type this. I try to be respectful of others beliefs. Except when it becomes child abuse. It has to be stopped. End this multilevel abuse scheme

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад +4

      If you think inviting kids and youth to have clean mouths, good friends, stay away from drugs and alcohol, avoid sex and anything like it outside of marriage and serve others is child abuse I have no idea what your bar would be for raising a good son or daughter haha.

    • @mamaitaliano9774
      @mamaitaliano9774 5 лет назад +9

      @@kylebraby2357 child abuse is raising kids in a false religion, following false prophets. Never being able to live up to the expectations set, etc. Just because the church may have some good values it promotes, does not equal truth.

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад +1

      @@mamaitaliano9774 This is some silly logic... so you think thousands of other religions you don't agree with are child abuse?? Simply because... you don't like them?? Interesting...

    • @swagner7767
      @swagner7767 5 лет назад +9

      @@kylebraby2357 That sounds an awful lot like "unintentionally hurting your loved ones is OK as long as millions of other people are doing it too". Abuse doesn't cease to be abuse just because the abuser doesn't recognize it for what it is.

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад

      @@swagner7767 Just think you are talking out your butt when you try to call parents of a religion you do not even know child abusers when you havent even met them... what terrible logic and overgeneralized statement with zero facts or truth. I think raising a child in a home without Jesus and not allowing Jesus is child abuse-- again so every religion you dont agree with are child abusers? hahaha I can't see how anyone could ever actually make that argument.

  • @lulaisawesome
    @lulaisawesome 3 года назад +6

    Man. This video opened my eyes on a lot of specific shit in the church that people just accept as fact. Im going through a similar mental discovery you were in college but I don't think im in quite as much anguish. I appreciate your eloquence and candor. Everyone in the church walks on conversational eggshells around every large point of doctrine. I appreciate this video a lot. You have gained a new follower for sure

  • @Jsppydays
    @Jsppydays 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your story I love it. You give strength to all of us going through this crisis.

  • @cendraramirez3533
    @cendraramirez3533 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for this video and your channel this has helped me really be confident in my decision of leaving the church. I’m a convert of 4 years I came to Rexburg, ID to attend BYUI i thought this was going to be the highlight of my spiritual journey. Instead the opposite happened the mormon bubble made me realize how fake a lot of Mormons are. This pushed me away from the church I didn’t know what to do the church was the only spiritual experiences I have ever had I told church friends that I want to leave the church but instead of helping me they just want to help me stay but I don’t want to stay. Last week I just decided to leave the church I realized that I don’t need to be mormon to be happy. I am still unsure what will take place in my life because the church has been everything to me the past four years. I have a daughter and don’t want her to be confused or mad at me from leaving the church she is 10 years old she’s old enough to understand certain basic beliefs but I just hope that we can both find happiness and find direction outside the church. I’m so happy this week I’m getting the hell out of this town!!!! Rexburg is nothing I thought it would be!!!!

  • @izaakbecker4263
    @izaakbecker4263 5 лет назад +5

    DUDE! Thanks for sharing your resources! Super helpful!

  • @mirandaleigh1820
    @mirandaleigh1820 3 года назад +17

    Hey, I know you posted this a while ago. But thank you so much for the honest, sincere, gentle way you said this. I’ve been beating myself up about my lack of faith and worrying about tearing my family apart for so long. I needed to hear this so bad.

  • @zebrasinigloos8245
    @zebrasinigloos8245 5 лет назад +16

    You guys need more subscribers!

  • @franklybenjamin2718
    @franklybenjamin2718 5 лет назад +7

    Beautiful and sincere story. Thank you for sharing.

  • @juliacheneyillustration3928
    @juliacheneyillustration3928 Год назад +3

    This really hit me. Thank you for sharing. I remember trying to study the Book of Mormon after my faith had been shattered, trying to find anything to hold on to. I read Alma 32 (I think that’s the one) and figured that, if I were to rebuild my faith, I should see if the church’s “fruits” were good. I kept getting disappointed. I kept reading the Book of Mormon and came face to face with the blatant racism that I’d always ignored before. And finally, I read a verse that described Jesus as full of “grace and truth.” I figured that, if Jesus really wanted me to find truth, then he couldn’t condemn me for trying to find it wherever it was. Even if that search for truth led me away from the church.

  • @debbietrinker2315
    @debbietrinker2315 5 лет назад +4

    Tanner, that was brilliant, moving and a perfect summation for those of us who have opened up our hearts, souls and minds, but can not articulate! Thank you!

  • @jenniferwolford7205
    @jenniferwolford7205 5 лет назад +6

    Everything you say resonates so very much! Please we must be friends!

  • @rebeccahecht3340
    @rebeccahecht3340 Год назад +1

    I’ve been watching your content for a couple years now, it greatly helped my transition out of Mormonism.
    You speak so incredibly eloquently it has helped heal a lot of the hurt feelings I’ve had due to the church.
    I’m so glad I’m no longer the girl clinging to a set of scriptures devoid of answers or crying on the kitchen tile floor wishing that the evidence wasn’t stack so high against everything I had ever believed.
    Sometimes I forget how hard it was to leave, other times it still feels hard to have left.
    Thank you for speaking out and sharing your story, you have helped more people than you know.

  • @dallinklain3852
    @dallinklain3852 5 лет назад +7

    I really appreciate your videos and your way of speaking.
    I had a very similar path but it’s so hard to articulate so Thankyou for what you do.

  • @enriquesd69
    @enriquesd69 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the story! I’m from Russia, but also raised as LDS, served mission and left the church.

  • @cherietice
    @cherietice 5 лет назад +23

    Tanner as Jesus is the best thing i have seen all day!

  • @allzeenamesaretaken
    @allzeenamesaretaken 4 месяца назад +1

    This is an incredible bullet point summary of all the FACTUAL issues with the church. Bravo 👏

  • @crazyhorsecarpediem
    @crazyhorsecarpediem 5 лет назад +13

    Brilliant video!! I formally left the L.D.S. church in 1987. I served a two year mission in England and Wales. It was devastating for me when I left the church. I even considered suicide and came close several times. I absolutely love your videos. All the very best to you.

    • @eunicebryan5410
      @eunicebryan5410 5 лет назад +2

      Adam James When people have been in "controlling" religious cults, it is hard to trust again. But let me tell you, that you can always trust Jesus. Many of the Mormons who started reading the Bible, and found the love and grace of God, are now following the true and Living God, and have experienced what salvation is all about. Satan always has presented imitations, but the TRUTH is still in God's Holy Word.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 3 года назад

      How did you make it out?!? Please tell me? I feel never could have done it without the internet.

    • @inChristalone1960
      @inChristalone1960 2 года назад

      @@eunicebryan5410 That's what happened to me. I came to the Biblical Christ. All glory to God!❤🙌🙏

  • @midnightmoon3183
    @midnightmoon3183 5 лет назад +20

    Thank you so much for sharing your story. I also found the truth very hard to stomach and it has been a struggle. Currently struggling with having to tell my family or just keep my resignation private. This video was amazing and made me feel not so alone. Thanks for your courage its really helping people!

  • @ethanmars4455
    @ethanmars4455 3 года назад +2

    Can't believe you ended up in Logan... I grew up there. Moved away 5 years ago and haven't been back. Thanks for all your videos, you guys are able to put into words so many things I still have issues unpacking. Hopefully some of the things you guys have said will help me to figure out a way to get the rest of my family out.

  • @LaurenVHamill
    @LaurenVHamill 5 лет назад +21

    I've heard it a couple times now, but when you said that the story of the tree of life was based on a dream Joseph Smith senior had, I thought, "wait, is the book is Nephi just based on Joseph Smith jr's life?" If he really did make up the book of Mormon, then what better way to start than with visas own family. And maybe laman and lemuel symbolize all the people who didn't support Joseph in his endeavors. ... Just a thought!

  • @alonzo9772
    @alonzo9772 3 года назад +5

    These religion leaving videos are so addicting! They are always so interesting. 😄👍👍

  • @derektilley669
    @derektilley669 5 лет назад +3

    Just fantastic! I found several sections that were almost identical to my own experiences and thoughts. Keep up the good work.

  • @kell480
    @kell480 2 года назад +3

    Joseph Smith was called a prophet
    (Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb)
    He started the Mormon religion
    (Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb)
    :D
    I can't tell you enough how refreshing it is to hear your story ... as well as know I'm not the only one in the fam to feel this way. Love you

  • @clintthompson4702
    @clintthompson4702 5 лет назад +3

    Tanner is one of the best people I have met. Best Zelph video yet, imo.

  • @alicruz4900
    @alicruz4900 5 лет назад +31

    I ❤u guys😊 the church blows on SO many levels. It's really nice to be able to THINK FOR MYSELF!

  • @allreddesign
    @allreddesign Год назад +1

    That was soooooo good!!! Thank you for sharing your story!!!!!!!

  • @EunisCheung
    @EunisCheung 5 лет назад +42

    my new favorite ex mormon video

  • @kamillalima3553
    @kamillalima3553 4 года назад +4

    I am impressed how at all time you wanted to believe it was true, how you actually seek for answers going back over and over again in the scriptures, like you said, you weren’t looking for reasons to leave but to stay. You prayed. You researched. I admire you for coming up to a decision, big decision like this, is such a diligent and honest way. So inspiring. E eu não sei porque escrevi em inglês porque você entende Português 😅 beijo de luz 😘 você ganhou meu respeito e admiração

  • @amitcohen2269
    @amitcohen2269 5 лет назад +24

    This is a wonderful video essay. You are all heart. I envy people who have you in their life.

  • @lizgunnell
    @lizgunnell 4 года назад +3

    SO ELOQUENT. Thank you for this. You fought so hard for the truth and you found it.

  • @samsula123
    @samsula123 3 года назад +2

    I love that you addressed the “feeling” of the holy ghost or a religious experience. I learned after I left religion how manipulated we are by worship music and how any moving song can bring that same sensation/feeling without god. I relate to your journey, I just wish I had learned it sooner before I wasted so much of my hopes, dreams, and plans on it. Leaving religion felt like being “born again.” It’s amazing how much more loving you can actually be towards people when you don’t have to look at them as “sinful” for something natural. Or religion labeling natural human urges (like sex) as sins and something to be ashamed of or forbidden.

  • @moestein6972
    @moestein6972 5 лет назад +1

    My brother was housed in a cockroach infested flat in Costa Rica. He lost a lot of weight, and broke his glasses a year into his mission. Unable to get a replacement pair, he ended up with a corneal shift. Then 3 months before going home, they were robbed, and all religious materials were taken! They had to wait a month for replacements. He left the Mormon church in 2001. My mother has 7 children, and only 1 is active.

  • @SamanthaShelley
    @SamanthaShelley 5 лет назад +4

    Fantastic video!

  • @brittaney3629
    @brittaney3629 5 лет назад +10

    I really dig that wallpaper.

    • @purpleviolet207
      @purpleviolet207 4 года назад +1

      Same here. Love that flowered wallpaper.💐🌸💮🏵️🥀🌹🌷🌼🌻🌺💐

  • @karenvanessan.2000
    @karenvanessan.2000 3 года назад +3

    This would be perfect for a Sunday talk 😊

  • @EtchedInTimeLLC
    @EtchedInTimeLLC 3 года назад +1

    That is beautiful. Filled with love and kindness, just the thing that people contemplating leaving the church need.

  • @joannwebb3683
    @joannwebb3683 5 лет назад +12

    Very heart felt! Thank you for sharing your story.

  • @niedrichfamily
    @niedrichfamily 2 года назад +1

    "I love who I am today" so beautiful ❤️

  • @chaserock4675
    @chaserock4675 5 лет назад +1

    What a fantastic video. Thanks!

  • @samkingsway6564
    @samkingsway6564 3 года назад +1

    You are amazing!! Your truths and story have brought me to tears!

  • @Reed5016
    @Reed5016 Год назад +2

    I’m going to put “don’t do a baptism for the dead on me” in my will.

  • @tiagoSS90
    @tiagoSS90 Год назад +1

    i'm from brazil. and absolutely love the way you just got João Pessoa Just right. congratulations on the pronunciation!

  • @Richard.Atkinson
    @Richard.Atkinson 5 лет назад +56

    By far the best part of this video: "Remember the F!"

    • @siddthekid5046
      @siddthekid5046 5 лет назад +5

      I must have blocked that song from my memory but as soon as he said, "Joseph F. 'Remember the F' " I went.... "HOLY SHIT!!!" And remembered learning some song about all the prophets' names in primary at some point 20+ years ago

    • @kennethd.9436
      @kennethd.9436 5 лет назад +2

      There is no “F” in Prophet.
      There is no “F” in Prophet.
      There is no “F” in Prophet.

    • @PrincessJamiG
      @PrincessJamiG 5 лет назад +1

      @@siddthekid5046 - holy crap! Same!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson 3 года назад +1

      @@siddthekid5046 I can't believe how insidious those primary songs were.

  • @blackbikerbarbie5800
    @blackbikerbarbie5800 2 года назад +1

    I can't thank you enough for sharing your experience...

  • @cthokie2076
    @cthokie2076 3 года назад +1

    Omg you are so smart and adorable and funny! I love your combo of the shirt and the wallpaper. I grew up Mormon but we bailed out when I was 8. I ended up just learning the basic Bible so I was lucky but my 6 years older sister was scarred by it. I appreciate you putting yourselves out there to share your story.

  • @CameronMcDougle
    @CameronMcDougle 5 лет назад +2

    Great video man! I enjoyed hearing your story again.

  • @emmagarcia963
    @emmagarcia963 Год назад

    Thank you so much for posting this video. I know it's three years later, but you are still making waves and changing lives. It feels good to know that we are not alone in our cult recovery. Thank you for sharing your story.

  • @NoLOVEinFEAR333
    @NoLOVEinFEAR333 5 лет назад +9

    The tapestry you weave with your words is truly beautiful and poignant! You have a great talent for expressing yourself in a way that is evocative of emotion, and also connects deeply to people's hearts. Thank you so much for your amazing work. it really does help to feel less alone, you know?
    P.S. your editing is also awesome AF!

  • @rebeccasneddon1729
    @rebeccasneddon1729 5 лет назад +10

    LOVED this ❤️❤️❤️ you two have made things so much easier for me (and I'm sure countless others) in leaving the church. It's so comforting to find a community here on your channel that understands what this is really like❤️ also come back to Logan let's be friends 👍👍😂😂

  • @AdolfBahan
    @AdolfBahan 2 года назад +1

    I'm Gay before i was converted to Mormon church. After a years i left Mormon church years ago. I decided to left the church due to homophobic members. I experience some word's like "are you gay". & Also i left coz no one support me as prospective elder. Im the only convert in my family so it was really hard. I did all everything but my faith to so called "God" was fall apart. Also the feeling of not belong to the other LDS due to family status in life. Literally its so hard breaking to church but i feel more im free now.

  • @desireevieira2382
    @desireevieira2382 5 лет назад +3

    Loved this so much, i relate in such a big level and i'm so happy to live freely now away from the church.

  • @goalsformary
    @goalsformary 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. It's been 13 years since I left the church. I am unsure if my family will ever give up on me going back to the point of harassment. Seeing some of these Vlogs is so helpful. They get a bit amped up at General Conference Time.

  • @shawnreed7876
    @shawnreed7876 5 лет назад +2

    You described my first 21 years of life to a T. I also spent many years and countless hours that a God existed and that Mormonism was God's path to "eternal salvation". I was never able to. I spent years of my life trying to convince people of something I didn't believe in. Leaving Mormonism is the hardest thing I've ever done. I can't say I've escaped it or ever will. Thanks for posting this video. It's relieving hearing other people having gone through what I did and have managed to move on with their lives.

  • @danielacoutinho897
    @danielacoutinho897 5 лет назад +20

    This entire video sounded like poetry and I loved it

    • @all4jesus594
      @all4jesus594 5 лет назад +1

      Everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like poetry, and is filled with truth.