How POLICE RADIOS work | A Comparison of Old and New
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2019
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How do police radios (or walkie talkie) work from the cop's perspective? How do old and newer designs of public safety radios compare? That's what we are discussing today...
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A mutual aid channel
is a must for radios, its helps inter agency communication and keeps the repeaters from all getting used.
The old one has a 90° swivel. The new one has a 180° swivel
Oooo... Good catch. My bad.
Mine is by CaseGuys.net and it's a °360
The "reception bars" on the display are there to show the strength of the radio's connection to the control frequency of a trunked radio system. A trunked radio must remain connected to the control frequency to allow the radio system to assign it to different talk groups. Looks like your department just upgraded to a P25 system :)
dude yep P25 is a digital talk group mode. Like DMR in HAM radio.
i dont think these radios are trunked mate.
@@dannn.l.slightvisual7656 their system is most likely a trunked P25 system
RSSI
Ah, the good old HT-1000. Great radio and built like a tank. When we finally gave ours up in about 2006 some of the batteries were literally decades old and we'd go through 2-3 per 12 hour shift. Good times...
I learned the hard way that the aftermarket batteries for the ht1000 just don't last like the Motorola ones do. We switched a few years ago and now even the "extended capacity" ones are a one shift affair.
Hell, my department still uses the xts series, talk about old stuff
MX series (Bricks) were literal tanks of the 80's.. The could double as a defensive weapon if necessary
@@freefieldtraining I did rebuild own battery pack for this series and have no problem beating up Motorola stock - here is my video ruclips.net/video/GsA1VR02qGM/видео.html
You can ask technical friend for help and get back HT1000 running longer than it was brand new.
@@WolfangStudios73 volunteer FD here...we use the xts2500's. Theyre being used a lot and breaking now ..time for new radios. But work like hell
To stiffen up your volume knob on the ht1000 replace / or add a little o-ring under the knob. Pull the Knob straight off the radio you will see a little groove cut under it for the o-ring. Great Video!
I've always loved the new Motorola radios!
The APX 8000XE models are all around amazing, especially considering the all band capability. They allow for seamless transition from older systems and ensure operability with regards to mutual aid and cross-departmental operations.
As a freelance journalist I've had many scanners and radios in the past, I keep every one because deep down I'm a collector of sorts lol.
The one thing I've always wanted is one of the 8000XEs, if not because of the all band feature, but also the control and features. The clarity, and volume is amazing, the channel announcement is astounding, the battery life makes old radios and smartphone cry, and the durability is sheer perfection.
In my line of work, hearing things accurately so i know what is a story, what questions to ask or verify, and what i need to be aware of to keep myself safe is key.
Scanners are great but they aren't rugged, suck in terms of reception, and do not handle things like simulcast that well.
The new line of radios are by far the top of the spectrum right now, and it will be hard to beat in the future.
Did you purchase this radio yourself? These radios are $8000 and programming software is several hundred dollars per year for a subscription. Unless you’re an amateur radio operator, I don’t see much use in getting one of these.
@@JackPaylor i do not own one personally, and frankly the price doesn't phase me lol. Most who haven't used or handled these radios wouldn't understand why they cost that much, but those that have used or handled them would understand the price.
I've loved the new radios since our city moved to our Motorola P25 trunked Simulcast ENC system with APX 8000 & APX 8000XEs for fire, PD, Municipal services, and transit back in 2015.
The subscription to software isnt really a new thing thought, most municiple contracts include a section of the budget for software licensing. Our city pays a decent price, but nothing compared to the $6 million they pay for ENC to be enabled fleetwide.
YA a video I know about! Ive been a Motorola/radio nerd for a while (own several myself). Its good to see that they are finally upgrading from an over 20 year old radio, but the HT1000 was one of the legendary radios of our time. So the system that you are on is whats called a "trunked" radio system as compared to the "conventional" radio system you were on with the HT1000. The signal bars you see on the display of the APX7000 shows you are "affiliated" (or connected) to the trunked system. If you were to say switch to the old system those signal bars would go away because it only shows the signal bars on trunked systems. Also in this case I believe that your trunked system also allows you to be in Digital mode (called P25, apco25, etc) Although a trunked system can be analog to and visa verse with conventional. Trunked systems are much more complicated but the basic is that it doesn't use frequencies in the traditional sense, the channels are now Talkgroups and the system shares frequencies with multiple talkgroups. It just allows for the system to have more traffic and support way more users then a traditional conventional system like the HT1000 would. Any how sorry for the long explanation but the rabbit hole only goes deeper lol. Great video though, though about getting a turtleback case myself. Keep up the good work!
It's still the same system as before. We still have guys using the ht1000's on it. I checked and the bars come up. Only on other agencies frequencies. I had to avoid our channels for the video.
@@freefieldtraining Gotchya, So the other agencies that your on would be on trunking. You guys will probably be moved to it once the radio upgrade it done. Im basing my location info on a general location (since I dont know what district that your in, etc.) Thats the beauty of this radio, its very flexible with channels and systems.
@@freefieldtraining It's telling you the control (sync) channels strength..if those bars go away the radios should bleep or display something like "Out Range" or "Failsoft" like the old MTS2000's and spectras did. Failsoft is the redundant direct channel it reverts to if the trunking system fails for some reason. Also p25 can be trunking or conventional. The statewide system here is 700 MHz p25 trunked. but the county is still analog trunking smartzone trunking.. We are about to change the county over to the state network and keep the 800 MHz but do a cross linking so both systems still work until the 800MHz licenses run out in a few years.
The HT-1000 was one of the BEST radios I’ve ever owned.
I still have two that are in good shape with good batteries. I'll never get rid of them.
Great information and review on the older and newer equipment.
Those old Jedi series radio's were great!!!
The signal meter will tell you how your signal is into the repeater (Assuming P25) and also your receive signal while the radio is receiving. Also, the 0 and 0 with slash is the switch normally reserved for selecting Encryption on and off (if your system has it, or the encrypted channels are "strapped" to the Freq/Talkgroup), but the channel lockout feature being programmed to it is pretty cool!
I don't think they were using p25 just because I believe I heard talking coming out of the ht1000 and it's a analog only radio
@@CraftinFears_Officialaround 6:43 you can hear a digital voice com on one of the channels. probably not his departments, but likely would be upgrading if they are getting the new radios.
7:30 that is your signal strength of the control channel. The newer digital radios not only digitize speech, but they also have much better band / spectrum management. Instead of dedicating a frequency to a talk group (EMS, Fire, Tac...) any talk group may use almost any frequency. The control channel broadcast to all radios sends a command for your radio to tune to the same frequency (or repeater pair) as the talk group (person transmitting) is currently using if you have that talk group selected.
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I don't know what Carlos is excited about but analog radios worked the same way(except digitizing voice). And it doesn't matter how many talkgroups are programmed into your radio(ID Number in the trunking system), if it is not authorized to be in certain talkgroups, you won't be able to be part of any of those talkgroups.
And that's a safety feature of the trunking system so no civilians can get on to the system without having their radio specifically added to it by an admin personal.
Who dare give you a thumbs down on this video! Good stuff man!
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No joke ive had the plastic attachment point break on my shoulder mic before and I straight up just epoxied it back on. I also like the ones that give you the option to plug in an earbud. Makes checking warrants so much easier because youre the only one who can hear the return.
I never like to work without an earpiece, my dispatcher telling me to keep a guy distracted until the police arrive probably wouldnt go over so great if he was standing right next to me on an open mic lol!
The swivel may help with comfort but the reason it is there is for antenna polarization so you can switch from vertical polarization to horizontal Polarization depending on the polarization of the repeater you are broadcasting through it just conveniently happens to make it more comfortable as well
We just went to the APX as well. Pretty happy with them. The antennas have shown to come loose and need to constantly be screwed back down, and the shoulder mic screws have also backed out causing a bad connection. Other than that they are a huge improvement over our ht1250s.
Be safe brotha, really like this channel.
1250's are good radios, zonable and do MDC PTTID encode and decode.. I have 12 of them in yellow and we use the in neighborhood watch on GMRS..
Per Motorola's user manual that indicator is what you thought it was.
"Received Signal Strength Indicator
(RSSI)
The number of bars displayed
represents the received signal strength
for the current site, for trunking only. The
more stripes in the icon, the stronger the
signal.
"
I think the system you were on was some digital trunked system, which means there isn't just one defined frequency or channel used for that system but many shared among the whole system, so the radio constantly listens to a control channel which monitors the groups you are subscribed to and automatically switches to the different frequency from a pool of different frequencies the control channel assigns when transmitting and receiving.
Get a display RSM with a channel selector (channel selector, volume control, and 2 programmable buttons). Have them at work and love them!
Commander 2 mic
Always enjoy the content.
Hey, I had a Turtleback case for my 7000 radio and the male end of the case ended up wearing out after about 6 months and would pop out of the female end when pushed while straight up in the holder. I ended up buying Motorola’s leather flip case (pmln5560) which seems to work for me. Also I suggest getting a short antenna for the radio.
Great video! Thanks!
I’ve always watched your channel, but I never knew you actually worked in the same county I live in. The APX 7000’s are really nice, even though switching over to that new central dispatch was a terrible idea. You got the good radio! Now just cross your fingers for a good dispatcher lol.
We didn't go to ecom or southcom. We have a dedicated dispatch center still. Our FD went to central dispatch out of Orland.
I use the Motorola HT 1000 for Ham Radio use. I like it due to the volume is very loud and a steady 5 watts output. Thank you for your video on the new Motorola radio.
Do the radios use the squad car as sort of a mini repeater, to boost that signal to your main repeater?
I love the HT1000 radios I got like 3 of them I use for FRS talk with family or at beach boardwalk . on. And the most I like is the MDC1200 because I can decode the numbers to channel and know who is who.
Can you do that with any old Motorola? I was thinking of picking up some used ones for camping/hiking but have no idea how to program them
The apx7000 is dual band allowing for more frequencies to be used in areas with different frequencies. The signal indicator is how much signal you have between you and the repeater,generally with the bew systems that are coming out you won’t be able to get it out of range for a while. From what i can tell at least one or all the channels are P25 digital (Motorola’s digital version) so the signal indicator will be on all the channels,however if you are on an analog channel there won’t be any signal indicator.
Looks like they are using trunking. So 99% of the time the signal indicator will be at full bars or at least it should be
P25 is not Motorola's digital version, it's an industry standard and many manufacturers make P25 radios
@@radiosification come to find out even Midland makes P25 radios surprisingly.
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Hi, a lot of years passed but I'm seeing this in 2023. The first radio you show is analog. I have a DP4400 which does analog but also digital (MotoTRBO aka DMR). It's all motorolas. You also have Zones. You can have a lot of zones. For example: Zone NYPD-1 and you can select 14 channels (1 - Dispatch; 2 - Local; 3 - whatever; etc). if you want to quickly talk to FD you can select other zone and talk directly to the fire department's "call center". It's just a way you can use, I have no idea how in US the system is done. Here in Portugal (and most of the European countries) use TETRA, which is a better digital trunk based radio system. Your second radio is a P25 which uses similar system like DMR or MotoTRBO. P25 is mainly used in USA. TETRA is mainly used in Europe. Both are digital and support full duplex calls, data and connectivity to Internet, mail and IP. But, TETRA is even better. Has more datarate and is designed to have corssover links over other types of medium. I can give you an example. I'm a radio amateur and we have a global network called brandmeister. Is based on FreeDMR. We have cross links over FreeDMR, Analog repeaters networks (like echolink), HamTETRA and so on. We are working (and we already tested) the QO-100 transponder (is a geostationary satellite that has a amateur radio transponder on board), and we did with success a crossover link between Azores SIRESP (is the emergency network based on TETRA in Portugal), going trough a amateur radio transponder locally, to a parabolic dish, goes to the QO-100 and goes back to the continent part and doing the reverse. We relied on some military equipment to encrypt everything. But it was a nice demonstration that amateurs can work with authorities and use our systems in case of a disaster. Anyways, the P25 trunk system (like tetra and also DMR in tier 3) works like a cellular system. It has a mobile number that is unique, cells have carriers and you must sign up on the network. After that, the network can "manage" the mobile entities (like your radio) and assign frequencies and give you access to certain talk groups (like channels). So when you turn on the radio, it will automatically search and connect the the nearest cell and authenticate to access the groups you have to work. Like NYPD dispatch. no matter where yo are, you are always connected and no need to switch channels or zones to access different cells/repeaters. It also deals the encrypt on the air automatically and do the E2E encryption. The TETRA uses 3 types of encryption standards. TEA1, 2, 3 and 4. The 1 is for companies and is a open encryption algorithm. TEA2 is used for authorities like police. TEA3 is used for emergency services but for outside of European zone. TEA4 is for commercial use but encryption is secret like TEA2 and 3. Both 1, 2 and 4 are export restricted. So Motorola and other companies cannot sell equipment with this encryption standards outside of EU.
Beautiful Turtleback Case on there!
That shows you the signal strength that you are recieving from the transmiter be it repeater site, simplex, or trunking tower. The radios constantly talk to the site constantly. And swtich over too tower sites automatically
We use the Motorola APX 8000 quad band. Make sure that who ever deals with your APX, has extra channel knobs. They like to come off quite easily.
Tri band.
Technology is been crazy 😊.I still have my old radio when I was working back in 1995 I guess it’s kind of an antique now 😏🇺🇸
@NIHAL No I thought I lost it long before ...Came across it one day sitting in my garage
So I am the radio guy that will explain the radio haha. I know you said that you don't really need a high-low switch on your mic anymore but if you consider one in the future look up Motorola part number PMMN4065. They also make a straight cord public safety version of this mic. Motorola part number PMMN4059, PMMN4060, PMMN4061. The difference between them is the length of the straight cord.
It seems like you are on a trunking system now so the receive indicator shows how strong your radio affiliation signal is to the closest tower. This should almost always be at full bars. There is a whole explanation to this but it would take me about 3 paragraphs to explain it all.
We aren't trunked, that was somone else's channel that I was on for the video. My mistake.
@@freefieldtraining Ok so you must be on conventional still. That channel that you were on was trunked though. Awesome video. You always help us out and give us good information so I wanted to return the favor.
I love radios and programming depending on what radio system you have for example like P25 and Conventional the signal meter shows how well of a connection you are getting to the system if it's a P25 system then the signal bars will show how good of a connection you have to a specific site or tower.
Nice looking radios, my department has the kenwood radios they work pretty good. Our sheriffs department has the repeater type radios and they also have the 800 radios. Most the time they use the 800s and we can’t hear their calls and they can’t hear us. But we are working to get on the same page.
So your agency only runs simplex channels? (Radio to radio) how do you talk across the county or city without a repeater?
tell them about FirstNet
@@cleancutzlawncare6861 he probabaly means conventional and trunking.
Clean Cutz Lawn Care My department has its own repeater system it actually does pretty good. Right now my county has two dispatches a city dispatch and a county dispatch, eventually it’ll be a central dispatch.
Looks like you are in Indiana. I see a multitude of analog conventional vhf channels for surround FD/PD as well as a couple trunked systems on 800mhz. Nice overview.
I made till truck driver in had been meaning to get radio that you have and I'm thinking of getting here pretty soon because a neat 1 to listen to my OHP calls
@7:30 the signal strength indicator tells you how strong a radio signal is, so my friend whos 2 miles away, the signal strength could be 4 out of 4 bars, my other friend in a city 4 miles away could be 2 out of 4 bars in signal strength.
They sent digital here in the UK years ago. PMR 446 is for public use
Awesome info thanks
I love that radio I’m just wondering about your old ht1000 WalkieTalkie I would really like to buy it off of u dude :)
can you direct contact with other officers? here in the uk we can basically call are fellow officers like a phone call to each others radio like a private call
I want one!!!! I’m getting my ham license and I am totally considering that setup now. I’ve been in a few volunteer departments and I’ve never been able to get a good setup all of their radios suck!! But if you have more info on the band ranges and stuff like that I’d be interested.
Looks like you went digital from analog but maintain the analog pairs still I see. Looks like your now on a trs I am assuming.
Nice gear. Are you guys running digital where you’re at? Where I live we have a state wide P25 network that serves the Police, Fire and EMS.
Sounds like digital to me, IE the robotic sound to the voices.. P25-2 probabaly
When the new radio turned on did it say “Ham + Police” or “Hemet Police”? Cool video, Thanks & stay safe out there sir!
APX's are technological marvels but my favorite Motorolas will always be the old HT-200, which was the first police walkie-talkie I ever saw when I was a small child in the early 1960's. Things were still in use in my town PD in late 1970's. The HT-220's that followed later were good. Favorite mobiles were Motracs and Mocoms. None of them would do a tenth of what your APX will do, but in my mind, those old Motorolas will always be REAL police radios.
oh yes, the good old HT220 and trunk mounted radio's
I'm still carrying an HT1250 (for VHF) and a XTS 5000 for P25 800 Mhz
I have a model HT1250 for ham use, and I first started using the NiMH batteries which make the radio feel as heavy as a brick. Later I replaced those with lithium batteries and the weight decreased significantly. I can see that it would be more convenient to have a simplex frequency programmed into one of the channels instead of using the repeater talk-around feature in the menus.
Easier to teach the new grunts
My concern is the antenna is several inches from your head, iRF causing cancer or tumors to head and eyes Higher frequency more RF penetration. GREAT VIDEO...
It would be very ironic for men to die of head cancer given the area I work. Lol.
When i first started we didnt carry hand sets and the radio was piped through the grill and would bellow when they wanted you while out of your unit with an obnoxious signal lol
You can still make it do the Start up beep, Your radio guys just didn't program it in. It's called radio test Tone when it starts up your Display says SELF TEST , My APX 7000 and APX 4000 Have that set up with a lock code since mine are the Model 3's
Going from a 90's radio to a dual band APX7000. Like going from a 90's Civic to an Aston Martin. Those APX's were $7,000 when they came out. The tri band was even more.
Hi from germany great Video 👌
do you use Vhf or Uhf?
I carried around the first version way back around 1997. One would think that after all these years Motorola could come up with something that is much smaller and much, much lighter.
Somebody was getting paid.
You want milspec, you gotta deal with the weight. :)
XTS2500 with lithium battery. Lightest APCO P25 radio you can get
Remember the saying with Motorola: "You can buy better but you will never pay more!"
LoL. Buy better ? Put up any other hand held 2 way radio to a Motorola APX and let's see how they do.
matt9c1 Harris is the only other competitor that is on par or better than moto with their XG series. Both the XG-75/100 and the AXP series are extremely proven.
Riceman’s Place so proven that Harris was replaced by Motorola’s P25 system when they couldn’t provide consistently for the Las Vegas PD?
Steve Blaski Harris has a contract with Nevada which is why they provided their radios. The Washoe county/Reno areas still use them but Vegas had to switch along with Nye county. The Harris EDACS system was the good thing they had but they struggled with P25 integration. I'm not saying their the best nor is Motorola as both companies have has issues in the past. I'm just saying that these are the main players in the public safety field.
@@Gmoney818 I think the last person was referring to LVMPD using the OpenSky system from Harris before they moved to what they have now. The OpenSky system had significant issues with dropouts, dead zones, and trouble affiliating that the LVMPD put out a bid for a new system. Motorola won and installed a new Project 25 trunked system with APX radios and the PD were much more pleased with the performance. There are multiple press conferences online with the chief's explanation of the old vs. new systems.
Are those IL fireground frequencies in that or does IN just have very similarly named FG frequencies?
Zachary fleck it’s probably both things so yea that’s probably it I’ve been into Walkie talkies ever since I was 12-or13years old and I have a similar radio to this Motorola that has a Walkie talkie trunking system and it helps to know if it has one because it’s it tells u if it has a Walkie-talkie trunking system that is most definitely a police radio which I own one so yea for my company that I made so yea
not sure how it is now, but used to be there was an offset frequency between transmit and receive. they also worked on voter repeaters, so that there were multiple receivers located around the jurisdiction. those would feed into a voter comparator and the best signal would be transmitted out on the repeater/transmitter so everyone could hear on the channel. it probably still works the same, because how else would some little 2 watt or so handheld reach across a city or even a county?
Almost the same, modern trunking stats still use Voters and simulcast transmitters. The offset allows for the the receivers and transmitters to use the same frequency. Google "duplexer" and "multi channel voting" your find looks to repeater-builder.com best place to learn.
Another great video
What is the range on these?!
Sounds like you have a bit of experience being on the wrong channel and the boss lookin for ya 😜😂
I've been working at a BSA summer camp for the last few summers and we have a bunch of old HT-1000 and MTS-2000 radios that we use. They were used at IFSI (the firefighter school) for years until we received them. The only annoying thing about the radios is that the batteries are ancient and only last half a day on average
The camp I worked at also had a few HT1000 radios and a couple years later had a bunch more donated and installed a repeater. Before the repeater we had to relay messages across camps either through several radios or with a base station.
@@j.d.bucksavage3406 They installed a repeater at a camp?
@@2KCamaroZ28SS well more like a reservation. 4 camps on the same radio.
What's the frequency of your motorola ht1000 ?
I did not know that put weather radio frequencies.in your portable
Police radios. Do you use the 800mhz digital trunking radio system ?.
George Speck To get the weather channels, look up NOAA region frequencies
I have a newer Motorola cp200d, and a lot of people told me how back in their day the radios were 3 times as long!
can we receive police radio talking with our cellphone's any application?
Thank u
Ok my question (from a civilian) is, my cellphone dies, I'm stranded, but I have a C-B radio in my car. Is it legal to radio for help and how do I go about doing so?
Are the new radios on the Cook County system or the State of Il. Starcomm system? Difference is the County system is encrypted and can't be monitored on a scanner but the Starcomm system is digital and can be monitored on a scanner
Flathole Cook County and the Sheriffs Dispatch Centers are on Starcom21 the Sheriffs Department talk groups are encrypted.
The nice thing about Starcom is every radio has the ILEAS Programming for mutual aid and multi- jurisdictional responses.
Most areas are starting to come out of encryption on starcom21
That is the trunking system meter :)
I remember seeing my grandfather's radio when he worked for philly pd,it was so big that it had its own strap and a push up antenna.
It probably a Motorola HT220
meanwhile police malaysia using analog motorola saber model 3 before change into digital xts2500i and now xir model
Why not considering a LCD display version?
Ive done that before too. I was on the wrong channel and there was silence which I thought was very odd.
👏👏👏👏 great video
Nice info
Nice video
the signal bars shows how much signal you have with your repeater. the new APX 7000 is a digital P25 radio. so sense its digital it can show you how much signal you have with your repeater and if your out of range. so its like a wifi signal but its P 25 trunking digital radio signal.
The second unit is interesting. Regular working channels are around 430-570MHz but the weather service is actually on the boat band, typically 162.55, and aircraft use frequencies lower than that almost down to FM broadcast. Lot of tech in that package!
Aircraft use frequencies in the 120mhz range.
Aircraft is 108-136 AM mode, I believe.
My midland radio is on a weird frequency too :)
Do you also run a ear piece
After research your old system was a smart net type 2, analog. Now phase 2 tdma all encrypted minus channel 1. You will hear the cries when your agency straps channel 1. I hear the hell for it here for encrypting it all.
My agency use Apx 6000Li. The battery is terrible. I cant even go through an 8 hour shift without hearing that nextel bleep like sound. But the clarity is great.
The little antenna icon it's part ood the RSSI that just means big signal that is being listened to by the radio from the repeater. I do not remember what RSSI stands for but that's what I remember for my tech class.
They are on a trunk system so the radio I dictates RSSI from the controll channel.
@@dylan8495 they also appeared in a non trunking system.
@@Santospi1 yes they do but there they only appear when a signal is received. In A trunking system the control channel is always active (in a Motorola system) so the RSSI indicator is always there.
@@dylan8495 thank you for letting me know, the more I learn the better right
RSSI = Received Signal Strength Indicatior (indication).. The bars replaces the flashing red LED on older or no display radios
Do They pick up nassau County PD Frequencies?
the signal strength indicator is for what signal you are getting to the repeater
Its actually the site's control channel signal strength on a trunked system because it always broadcasts.
Our dept. Uses Motorola 8000 now. We used Kenwoods 5000 for 18 years. All great radios. In the USMC we used NAVY SEAL RADIOS! GREAT RADIOS BACK THEN! 1987 1991.
Let us know if we can help you with any carrying case solutions!(:
Four questions. 1 Once those batteries are dead, i gather your radio wouldn't work right? 2. Do message relayed through that rely on you as an office being NEAR your cruiser. i.e the radio works with the gear in your cruiser? 3. If the grid went down, i gather you are on 800 mhz, would all your radios stop working? 4. If you hit that orange radio button, what does it do?
Here in Indianapolis we tend to use the MOTOROLA XTS5000
We have a beauitful leaaher case for that radio! Let us know if we can help you with any carrying case solutions. (:
@@Turtleback my department uses brown basket weave if that’s something you might have I would definitely be interested
Nice.
Used to use apx 8s at one of the commands I was at dunno why we needed all of that radio for what we were doing not my money
i love playing with my know. dont all guys... lol ... great video
Hey tommy can I buy old radio?
You can buy them all day long on eBay for $25-$50 each.
Ahhh, HT1000 nostalgia I had one issued when I was a summer student at a national park they let me sign out a shoulder Mic because it was a pain to get in and outof the holder when I was driving. Just had to give it a second for the repeater to kick in. It was my favorite over the Kenwood's I used in youth corrections.. Or the shit Icoms private security used...
I found that for summer jobs as a kid it was better to Ditch the holder and just get the belt clip that attaches to the battery. Then you can clip it to a pocket when getting in and out fo the car and it doesn't poke you like when it is on your belt.
@@freefieldtraining the girl I shared an office with was given a smaller one with the clip! For some reason, I got the brick... probably all they had left lol
You can still use the HT1000. have it reprogrammed for HAM or GMRS (if it's UHF).
The A,B,C toggle can be programmed for normal operation , no PL.DPL decode, and scan.. There are other parimeters that can be set in the RSS but what I listed is most common.
The batteries for the Motorola Jedi series (HT1000, JT1000, MT2000, MTX and MTS 2000 flashports) are the same and very cheap to buy online.
The HT1000 also has a lock switch but it's hidden under the channel knob and it has to be activated via Motorola depot software.
I have the 8000 model of the APX in yellow I use for work, I manage and maintain comms systems for several agencies and businesses also a couple railroads. They are nice radios but do not do Mototrbu (DMR). However they are quad band (VHF, UHF, 700 and 800 MHz) which eliminates the need for me to have 4 different HT's.
The signal meter is for received transmissions and if it's trunking it is the signal strength of the control channel that syncs your radio and suthenicates it for use on the system..
I have the turtleback case for mine too, very handy when I am at the railroad and need to detach and hold the radio up to get more range to talk to the dispatcher.. Also it has a 180 swivel..
I never can get over how robotic people sound on the digital formats.. I guess as time goes on the vocoders will improve.
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Are you in Massachusetts?
My little brother walkie talkie and night or morning we hear police radios through and we hear like what there saying like 10-4. It's weird. How do I fix that?
It's a toy btw so I'm kinda like impressed like a 5 dollar toy can connect to police radios AND ALSO NEAR A AIRPORT RADIO LIKE THE ATC WHEN WE DRIVE NEAR THE AIRPORT. I swear if I can change the frequency I would Becuase my brother does not want to hear all the sudden SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED at midnight.
Are you or your department selling the old radio
As much as Motorolas customer service sucks, their radios are top notch quality. I own quite a few of them. I dont have an APX unfortunately yet ($$$), but one day lol. So I settle with an XTS5000 M3 and another very good quality EF Johnson VP600. Good stuff!
Can I order dis wireless Brother
Does anyone know when digital phase three will be implemented?
When it’s invented maybe.
Greetings from a german LEO! Very interesiting, we in germany use digital radios, which are encrypted and have the possibilty for nealry unlimited channels. The digital radio uses the mobile network just like your cellphone does. One of the disadvantages is, that they dont work to good in big buildings. I understand that in country like the us where police is organized on a smaller level (we mostly have only state police) this is not possible, especially for rural areas
www.selectric.de/loesungen/tetra-funk/handfunkgeraete/sepura-stp9000/ this is our radio much smaller than the old analog ones
Maybe it's not what you meant, but just to be sure: your TETRA radios don't use conventional cell networks. TETRA as a technology is more similar to GSM than, say, P25, but it still isn't quite as sophisticated (for lack of a better word). I don't know anything about Germany in particular, but I assume there's either a federal system (like Airwave in the UK or C2000 in the Netherlands) or each state sets up its own network. Shame it's encrypted all over Europe.
@@MoViesDProductions They don't make a police scanner capable of receiving Tetra. Are BC Hydro company uses Tetra. there the only user of this type system in Canada. They had to ask the Canadian gov for special permission .
@@MoViesDProductions Exactly. TETRA has much more in common with DMR than with GSM. The real shame is that hams seldom experiment with TETRA, because everything is really expensive with TETRA (i've heard that P25 is even more expensive). TETRA basically becomes PMR446 with no repeater around since a TETRA handheld has so little power compared to a DMR one. With DMR, 100€ and you're on air, and there's a great ham community
@@teravolt6113 In a sense, yes, but what I meant to say is that you won't find an LMR system more reminiscent of GSM than TETRA.
DMR is really flexible and implementations run the gamut from license free handhelds to huge trunked systems (Tier I through Tier III). The thing that makes it so useful for hams is that Tier II DMR is basically the digital equivalent of legacy analog systems--infrastructure-wise anyway.
That's in stark contrast to TETRA, which pretty much requires a huge infrastructure by design. The radios do have DMO, but that won't do you much good unless what you're after is a really expensive FRS/PMR radio like you said.
TETRA is a lot like GSM in that it utilizes always-on TDMA carriers and the signaling information on a TETRA carrier and a GSM carrier are really similar. Hell, the radios are basically early 2000s cell phones. The standard is just much more "cell-like" than most implementations of DMR or P25, even Tier III and Phase 2. It really doesn't lend itself to ham use. Not much more than stuff like those Nextel things they used to make a and their direct mode.
I do agree DMR is an awesome addition to the ham world. Imagine something like Brandmeister 50 years ago.
@@MoViesDProductions Another issue with TETRA is that migration from a legacy analogue radio system isn't that easy. Very few radios can do both analogue NFM and TETRA. So if i understand it correctly a gateway might be needed, and this would imply that when an analogue user calls a TETRA user the voice has to be digitized (and the opposite when a TETRA calls an analogue). With DMR, just set the new radios to operate on analog channels until the fleet has DMR radios only and you're done. All DMR radios that i know can do analogue. Functionally wise, DMR Tier III is TETRA TMO except for two timeslots per channel instead of four.