1) "Cleaving Roar" procs the extra evasion from "Skillful Evasion" as the tooltip states "100% chance to provoke against monsters" 2) "Morale Boost" has great synergy with "Chain Hook" that you forgot to mention (it applies Collision: Pull) , especially with it's specialization "Controlling Rake" that pulls up to 10 targets. 3) My combo goes like this: "DaVinci's Resolve" for atk speed and dmg reduction (dmg reduction buffs your Counter Strike's damage) "Great Fury" for skill damage boost "Cleaving Roar" to reduce endurance "A Shot at Victory" for sword skill damage boost "Counter Strike" for dmg return and to proc "Spectrum of Agony" "Willbreaker" to reduce defenses and then I'm spamming "Piercing Strike" (as it's cooldown drops with every hit you take when "Counter Barrier" is up) filling in the gaps with "Annihilating Slash" (extra damage because we have Weaken on mobs from "Cleaving Roar" and "Willbreaker") and "Witty Strike", both with their consecutive use specialization. For the remaining of my active skills (3) I use "Chain Hook", "Strategic Rush" and "Fierce Clash" to help gather the mobs together at exactly the spot i want. 4) In my opinion "Cold Warrior", "Skillful Evasion" and DEX should all go together in order for your kind of build to work. You have to go all the way or you're way too squishy and you just do mediocre damage. 105 isn't enough crit chance to do anything. You have to be dedicating your whole build to crit, which in turn makes you focus on Evasion and Dexterity as well. If you're playing endurance traits or you focus on STR, you shouldn't be using those skills. 5) I would only use "Stunning Blow" on such aoe farming scenarios only when using "Duke Magna's Fury Warblade" as it's passive increases heavy attack chance after using "Stunning Blow", just as "Cold Warrior" does. Note though that they work differently, even though they kinda have the same result. Magna gives you a buff on every attack you make after you stun with "Stunning Blow", no matter who you target. "Cold Warrior" however only applies on stunned targets, meaning that on an AOE scenario, if you dont have "Magna's Furyblade" you only deal more damage to that 1 single mob that you stunned. If you need the "heavy attack on stunned targets" buff from "Cold Warrior" so badly, you should be using "Devastating Smash" in your rotation to stun everything instead of a single target.
I agree with most of what you say. But ye I feel like they could've done a bit better job with tooltips. Based on what you say, even though Cleaving Roar doens't actually provoke but rather debuffs targets, it still behaves as provoking which is where the confusion comes from. Definitely I would try Fury Warblade as it would be much better. Anyway the point of single target stun is actually to enable Guillotine Blade AOE proc, but sure, it would be better to run AOE stuns with Fury Warblade. Thanks for the tips!
@@Eyeduka tooltips are a mistranslated mess, i totally get your confusion. Here's how the Roars work: Provoking Roar always provokes targets around you, even players, switching their target to you. Cleaving Roar debuffs all targets around you, reducing their endurance, but only provokes monsters. I get your point with Guillotine, and it's indeed the most efficient way if your goal is the most damage on a single hit. You buff your guillotine as much as you can. But that forces you to go for crit to get that sweet critical + heavy attack on a single hit, which forces a DEX build on you. You get squishy, but you do tons of damage. On the other hand, i prefer my tank tanky. I have only 10 dex (70-10-20-40-30), endurance everywhere, zero crit anywhere on my character, zero evasion and only atk speed wherever I can because it's the only thing I need from the DEX stat. I am literally a mountain, but no matter how much i buff my guillotine, it wont be enough without crit and I'll have to wait for cooldowns. That's what led to the skill build I listed on my original comment. Tons of heavy attack on the piercing strike, buff it as much as i can and profit from it having almost zero cooldown when I'm under a lot of attacks. The only limiting factor now is the cooldown on my roar and counter strike, but both of them are back up before I'm done pulling the next train of mobs.
I agree and for the most part I feel like splitting between 2 worlds, need to be tank for groups, but need dps for solo. In this regard I'm working on 2 builds, not just skills but also gear to make it work, it may take some time but i will get it done and have a full tanky build (shock commander) and another mostly dps, also different weapons. I will update it as soon as I manage to get the gear.
@@Eyeduka that's exactly the way the game is meant to be played. Jack of all trades is master of none. You have to specialize your build to every scenario if possible. Both skills and equipment.
I did mention that I'm analyzing the skills, and indeed they could use better wording to explain them, you can easily find multiple inconsistencies. Also keep in mind it is work in progress, not a full end game build. I'm just sharing ideas here and I'm glad when people are giving feedback.
Keep it up dude!
1) "Cleaving Roar" procs the extra evasion from "Skillful Evasion" as the tooltip states "100% chance to provoke against monsters"
2) "Morale Boost" has great synergy with "Chain Hook" that you forgot to mention (it applies Collision: Pull) , especially with it's specialization "Controlling Rake" that pulls up to 10 targets.
3) My combo goes like this:
"DaVinci's Resolve" for atk speed and dmg reduction (dmg reduction buffs your Counter Strike's damage)
"Great Fury" for skill damage boost
"Cleaving Roar" to reduce endurance
"A Shot at Victory" for sword skill damage boost
"Counter Strike" for dmg return and to proc "Spectrum of Agony"
"Willbreaker" to reduce defenses
and then I'm spamming "Piercing Strike" (as it's cooldown drops with every hit you take when "Counter Barrier" is up)
filling in the gaps with "Annihilating Slash" (extra damage because we have Weaken on mobs from "Cleaving Roar" and "Willbreaker") and "Witty Strike", both with their consecutive use specialization.
For the remaining of my active skills (3) I use "Chain Hook", "Strategic Rush" and "Fierce Clash" to help gather the mobs together at exactly the spot i want.
4) In my opinion "Cold Warrior", "Skillful Evasion" and DEX should all go together in order for your kind of build to work. You have to go all the way or you're way too squishy and you just do mediocre damage. 105 isn't enough crit chance to do anything. You have to be dedicating your whole build to crit, which in turn makes you focus on Evasion and Dexterity as well. If you're playing endurance traits or you focus on STR, you shouldn't be using those skills.
5) I would only use "Stunning Blow" on such aoe farming scenarios only when using "Duke Magna's Fury Warblade" as it's passive increases heavy attack chance after using "Stunning Blow", just as "Cold Warrior" does. Note though that they work differently, even though they kinda have the same result. Magna gives you a buff on every attack you make after you stun with "Stunning Blow", no matter who you target. "Cold Warrior" however only applies on stunned targets, meaning that on an AOE scenario, if you dont have "Magna's Furyblade" you only deal more damage to that 1 single mob that you stunned. If you need the "heavy attack on stunned targets" buff from "Cold Warrior" so badly, you should be using "Devastating Smash" in your rotation to stun everything instead of a single target.
I agree with most of what you say. But ye I feel like they could've done a bit better job with tooltips. Based on what you say, even though Cleaving Roar doens't actually provoke but rather debuffs targets, it still behaves as provoking which is where the confusion comes from. Definitely I would try Fury Warblade as it would be much better. Anyway the point of single target stun is actually to enable Guillotine Blade AOE proc, but sure, it would be better to run AOE stuns with Fury Warblade.
Thanks for the tips!
@@Eyeduka tooltips are a mistranslated mess, i totally get your confusion. Here's how the Roars work:
Provoking Roar always provokes targets around you, even players, switching their target to you.
Cleaving Roar debuffs all targets around you, reducing their endurance, but only provokes monsters.
I get your point with Guillotine, and it's indeed the most efficient way if your goal is the most damage on a single hit. You buff your guillotine as much as you can. But that forces you to go for crit to get that sweet critical + heavy attack on a single hit, which forces a DEX build on you. You get squishy, but you do tons of damage.
On the other hand, i prefer my tank tanky. I have only 10 dex (70-10-20-40-30), endurance everywhere, zero crit anywhere on my character, zero evasion and only atk speed wherever I can because it's the only thing I need from the DEX stat.
I am literally a mountain, but no matter how much i buff my guillotine, it wont be enough without crit and I'll have to wait for cooldowns. That's what led to the skill build I listed on my original comment. Tons of heavy attack on the piercing strike, buff it as much as i can and profit from it having almost zero cooldown when I'm under a lot of attacks. The only limiting factor now is the cooldown on my roar and counter strike, but both of them are back up before I'm done pulling the next train of mobs.
I agree and for the most part I feel like splitting between 2 worlds, need to be tank for groups, but need dps for solo. In this regard I'm working on 2 builds, not just skills but also gear to make it work, it may take some time but i will get it done and have a full tanky build (shock commander) and another mostly dps, also different weapons. I will update it as soon as I manage to get the gear.
@@Eyeduka that's exactly the way the game is meant to be played. Jack of all trades is master of none. You have to specialize your build to every scenario if possible. Both skills and equipment.
By different weapon I;m reffering to just a different GS, no way to change to new class I would go crazy :D
I don't think game devs will ever make AOE DPS. That's already OP with just the name.
Well I mean its decent for farming abyss dungeons, and it can only get better.
You have no idea how to read tool tips and u expect me to make a build after your advice.
I did mention that I'm analyzing the skills, and indeed they could use better wording to explain them, you can easily find multiple inconsistencies. Also keep in mind it is work in progress, not a full end game build. I'm just sharing ideas here and I'm glad when people are giving feedback.