Wow, I really dig the jazzy tones in this track. I wish they had focused a bit more on this than the cookie-cutter thrash sound, but I'm glad they evolved into the monster that they became in the late 90s to this day.
You can still hear a lot of influence in how Meshuggah would turn out, even this early. The jazz time signatures helped a lot in forming their signature sound.
@MrRandomNumbers Meshuggah "killed their fathers" quite fast. Early thrash metal was only one of the inspirations in the 80:s (others were jazz, fusion, prog rock etc), but already at this time they owned Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax etc. None of those would've been able to come up with progressive metal stuff like this back then, even if Fredrik wasn't the best singer. But this was of course before Jens decided to skip guitars and just sing.
Been listening to Meshuggah since '97 with "Destroy, Erase, Imrprove" and Choasphere" a bit later, then everything since, but for some reason never got around to listen to their debut. So far, Contradictions Collapse is a weird mix of MoP/AJFA era Metallica, with Biohazard-esque group shouting and jazz fusion. There's just enough tie-in to Destroy, Erase, Improve for me to be able to follow their progression, but hearing the thrash was something I wasn't expecting. They abandoned that aspect of their sound pretty early. Also, the way the drums are mixed in here was less than ideal. I like it though. Saw this available on vinyl and wanted to see if it's worth the expenditure. Track one I was like, "Fuck no!" but on track 3, it's grown on me and I'm enjoying it.
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they have to make more of these heavier chug riffs, killer song
That guitar tone reminds me of the Metallica And Justice For All tone. Sick
Early Meshuggah is what Metallica should have become after AJFA
Closer to the Black Album tone if you ask me.
This is what Metallica would be if they didn’t want to be pop stars so bad.
It's crazy how much their sound evolved.
The Alan Holdsworth influence is crazy. Great legato sustain.
Slightly less heavy Meshuggah with clean guitar chords and jazzy sounding solos for the win.
Wow, I really dig the jazzy tones in this track. I wish they had focused a bit more on this than the cookie-cutter thrash sound, but I'm glad they evolved into the monster that they became in the late 90s to this day.
You can still hear a lot of influence in how Meshuggah would turn out, even this early. The jazz time signatures helped a lot in forming their signature sound.
wow they changed a lot
im seeing them end of February in Edmonton, Canada
I came! I haven't listened to this album for over a year.
1# band ever periods
back in the days when they actually needed a bass guitar
Alessandro Mola lol
lol nice one
@juna wood Nothing was originally meant to be an all bass experiment
This or sickening is my favorite by them!
@MrRandomNumbers That would great. His vocals from 1988!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee
Okay, who's singin' on this one? Jens or big Freddie??
Prolly fred
@MrRandomNumbers Meshuggah "killed their fathers" quite fast. Early thrash metal was only one of the inspirations in the 80:s (others were jazz, fusion, prog rock etc), but already at this time they owned Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax etc.
None of those would've been able to come up with progressive metal stuff like this back then, even if Fredrik wasn't the best singer. But this was of course before Jens decided to skip guitars and just sing.
Been listening to Meshuggah since '97 with "Destroy, Erase, Imrprove" and Choasphere" a bit later, then everything since, but for some reason never got around to listen to their debut.
So far, Contradictions Collapse is a weird mix of MoP/AJFA era Metallica, with Biohazard-esque group shouting and jazz fusion.
There's just enough tie-in to Destroy, Erase, Improve for me to be able to follow their progression, but hearing the thrash was something I wasn't expecting. They abandoned that aspect of their sound pretty early. Also, the way the drums are mixed in here was less than ideal.
I like it though. Saw this available on vinyl and wanted to see if it's worth the expenditure. Track one I was like, "Fuck no!" but on track 3, it's grown on me and I'm enjoying it.
Thrash metal with hardcore punk backing vocals with jazz fusion/prog rock time signatures.
@MrRandomNumbers I`m trying to image , how Lars is playing this! :D its fucking funny....
Not🤣
I can’t because he can’t lmao
Jangly bass tone
4:45.......heaviness consumes me
indeed!
I wouldn't be surprised if they were playing e standard back then but it's probably drop b idk, does someone know?
They were using 7 strings but playing in the key of E
This album is all Db standard on six strings. 7 strings started in DEI and 8 in Nothing
Double Drop C the E String is C#
SO WHAT
If the world's a bit rude
GOLD
agreed
If metallica released this song with James Hetfield's vocals... damn
WAT an acoustic guitar in Meshuggah music????
Is that a good thing?
The only Meshuggah studio album that was Thrash Metal
The best álbum ever..🤘
Have you ever heared of Chaosphere?
Destroy Erase Improve and None EP disagree
1991 folks... Same year as Metallica's Black Album.
I can hear a lot of Black Album era James Hetfield in Jens' singing style. I think it sounds cool.
way better than their other albums haha..wish they took this direction instead
Dominic Neales Fans like you are why they didn't. 😂
no it means he kills himself
Respect to the artists and fans but this is a discombobulated monotonous drone that drags. Soz
you are an oath
ke basura por dios