MYSTERIES OF MT HERMON- The Way Congregation - Douglas Hamp & Dr Michael Heiser-The Awakening Report
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2020
- According to the book of 1 Enoch, the Sons of Elohim came down on Mt Hermon and then set out to create Nephilim hybrids. Ancient Near East scholar Dr Michael Heiser brings his insights to this fascinating topic.
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The oath the Watchers swore on that mountain was the first secret society initiation.
Man I love these discussions!!! I appreciate the time and dedication needed to have an in-depth knowledge of the bible.
2,000 years ago. Two men having almost the same conversation. It's very possible.
Love wading out in the deep waters with these guys. Such good stuff. More please!
All VeryGood, truly. The amount of Greek and Hebrew I have wouldn’t fill a mouse thimble... but hearing that discussion about word meanings/possibilities based on a knowledge and understanding of those languages(even at different points in time i.e. the availability of the breath letter- very good)...that supports my contention that dr h and you have a working knowledge of those languages and I can have a measure of trust in/about what you might say.
Lastly... how blatant is dr h’s desire just to help another person find answers/solutions to questions that they’re searching for to complete a larger answer to a bigger question. When someone isn’t threatened by someone else’s successes... that’s speaks about a kind of integrity not often found these days.
Good on both of you for your end of discussion comments AND dr h saying that there’s even entertainment value in the search for truth. If that involves a larger view of what “entertainment” means, so be it. Be well, Doug.
I somehow have missed this 3y ago, but wow what a treasure
Really like that Doug about "truth"! Yes, present the proven facts not opinion! Have a lot of respect for both you & Dr. Heiser. It's so interesting how God is using certain people to research & find this interesting information. Maybe, timing is an issue. As is, "it's time"! One thing I've definitely learned about the Bible is it's layered. It's loaded with layers ;). Just about everything means additionally something else. Also, really like the shadowing. God is very smart! He knows exactly what he's doing! Thanks, for sharing!
20:44 - 25:10 is BRILLIANT! When listening to that part think 1 Corinthians 2:8: BRILLIANT!
Excellent reference that matches this...if the Princes of this world didn't crucify the LORD, we wud not have a chance to attain the glory that God ordained fr us, so God hid it frm them the same way He did frm Satan...
Shalom! As a fellow commandment keeper I as well have found common ground with Dr Heiser and I am taking one of his classes this spring. Blessings from Y’israel in Nebraska
Rest In Peace with the Lord Dr. Heiser .
Love both these gentlemen, always so good.
I started attending The Way from South Carolina online...love it...thank you!
Enjoyed! Thanks guys.
Wow...2 of my all time favorites!!!
I agree, the discussion is amazing...
Wow.!!! Amazingly interesting!!! Thank you!!!
Wow. 2 of the greats in the faith talking it out. Awesome!
Well Done!
Thanks and God bless you all! =D
Totally enjoyed the nerding out! Totally!
Awesome. Now we need to get Heiser on to discuss why he does not "like" prophecy - It is because he sees the partial truths of both main systems but that the other pieces "do not fit" the "data" as he calls it or the text. He is so close to grafting/commonwealth theology/eschatology (the kingdom is already but not yet) but, from listening to him, has not been presented with a 3rd option which would wet his scholarly appetite to dig into the ancient texts and data on this topic.
Pastor Hamp, I live in Oklahoma. Can you please pray for my boyfriend and I? We are having a lot of difficulties and if You and your congregation would pray for us, I know we would be okay. Prayer works. Thank You Sir. I hope you see this.
Will do. May the Lord watch over you and keep you.
So, 8 month later did it make any difference??
Doug's book "Corrupting the Image ll" covers a lot of this in more detail. Great stuff!
Great video
Mike, I would say RIP...but I have a feeling you've been busy hanging out with everyone who wrote the books of the bible...I look forward to thanking you one day.
Love ya Dr Mike,
Man! I hope you guys have another interview. It went way to fast.
Fantastic!
Really enjoyed this.
Thank you very much!
I think the biggest missing piece in regard to all this, is that Cain named his first born Son "Enoch"...
Enoch the son of "Jared", was born approximately 617 Years after Adam was found in Sin... Enoch as we know, lived for 365 Years and YHVH took him...?
It seems to me that this is because the murderous son of Adam, Cain, was finally able to sire children and very likely at the same time period that Jared bore his firstborn Enoch...
Cain naming his firstborn Enoch is it seems to me is a kind of payback toward YHVH, as this Enoch (you would imagine), eventually bring total confusion to the people and the righteous lineage that Enoch was destined for... So YHVH basically took the Righteous one and gave mankind the Evil son... This is probably where the books attributed to Enoch come from...
The next piece of this puzzle is the naming of Cain's 6th generation grandson being "Lamech"...
There is also the righteous Lamech also, son of Methuselah and father to Noah... He also missed out on being a Patriarch dying 7 Years before the flood at age 777...
The evil Great Grandson was also a murderer (in this case a double murderer), killing his Patriarch Cain and also his own firstborn son being "Jabal", the shepherd of cattle...
Wow
Shemyaza rising!!!!
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Seems to make more sense that the reason for the fallen ones to pursue pro-creation was because of the rebellion and being cast out of the kingdom to earth that Satan and his followers desired revenge deciding to corrupt the creation of God in retaliation. In addition to the genetic corruption they also interjected and taught heavenly knowledge and ideas that were never meant for mankind ( astronomy, occultic knowledge, ritualistic worship, architecture, weapons, promoting themselves as false gods, etc.). It was also a means by which Satan hoped to destroy the lineage that would eventually lead to the birth of Christ.
You can’t fool us, guys. We know you’re in the same room. 😜
There is a video on youtube "The book of Enoch: Petrified Body of Azazel with his hands bound Discovered" for anybody that would like a look...the thing is it's not My Hermon....I'm sure it was in Finland or Iceland 1 of the 2.... You can actually see his hands still bound....you can notice how his nails grew after it died...and the other thing was....it had 1 massive Horn on the skull....
There are a lot of Indian gods which have the snake theme
I believe haSatan understood that the Redeemer Y'shua would come through the lineage of Adam. Therefore haSatan tried to destroy the DNA of Adam's descendants.
You’re probably correct. If we consider that the Cherub in the garden, who becomes Satan as the narrative goes, is called out for his wisdom and arrogance in Ezekiel/Isaiah, then it stands to reason that he at least got the “her seed v. your seed” message of Gen 3:15 and devised a counter plan.
This is probably also why he really thought he had his chance in Judas at the garden in the gospels.
Dan is a serpent that is a snake 🐍 in the grass and sneak attacks, so u fall and find it hard to recover, my paraphrase of course.
Of course Doug has to mention that he too wrote a book about Nephlem and "it was very popular".
Hands down Mike is twice the scholar, teacher and author.
I am not sure that it was a contest. In any case, for all of Heiser's solid scholarship: his biggest failing is that he teaches post-flood Nephilim but the Bible does not.
Petty and divisive.
@@1cristover What is, your comment?
@@KenAmmi-Shalom My comment was in response to the mean-spirited comment by marlene g. My point is that her comment is petty and divisive. Why would a person go out of their way to be mean?
I’m glad that he mentioned his book, I keep forgetting about it. Now I’ll remember, and I’ll go buy it.
A question was sparked in my mind: did satan and his minions know Jesus was Yahweh?
It seems like an easy question to answer, but then you have to think "does God reveal everything to His angels?" and to that, I have to respond to the negative. After all, we are going to be given the task of judging the angels according to God's Word. So, if all things are equal, I'd at first answer, "Satan/Lucifer was in Heaven before he fell, so Lucifer must know the Trinity is three and they are also one. But then that qualifier kicks in and I say that maybe God didn't show Himself as One-in-Three to the angels. There's nothing (that I know of) that says God is restricted in the way He portrays Himself to angels or men.
It seems he knew that, but he didn’t know the plan, so when he tempted Jesus he was fishing for information.
Amazing interview. The only thing I found distracting were the hundred "Mmmhmm"s the interviewer used. Everytime Heiser says something, there's a "Mmmhmm".
The GLOBE makes me go ....Hmmmmmm....?
Anyone look into the Essenes apparently they wrote the dead sea scrolls and they were vegan and even though we have dominion over animals of the sea and land we aren’t supposed to kill and eat them. I was presented this notion just recently. I think it’s worth looking into.
Kyle Magnum Cross interesting thought, though I have a hard time reconciling that with Yeshua serving fish with the bread for a couple of meals as well as the Levitical priests being told to eat certain meat sacrifices, not to mention the command to consume the entire lamb at Passover...
You asked why did Mount Hermon occur?
IMHO, only a third of the Angels were Fallen, leaving 2/3 that did not fall. To bump up the odds of victory in the unseating of the Most High, would take the creation of many children, Mass reinforcements. They knew what they were pledging to do in the oath of Mount Hermon was wrong. Motive for "came into the daughters of Adam" and taking to wife all that they chose was specifically to create a force large enough to displace the El Shaddai of creation. That's one evil reason why. But Yahuah judged them that they would watch their offspring kill one another. God-1; Fallen Watchers-0.
Nothing in Scripture indicates that a third of the angels fell from heaven with Satan before the fall of man. The only reference to a third of angels falling from heaven is in Rev 12, and that coincides with the birth of Jesus.
i get this is interesting, but in the end it's not changing anything. Not seeing what difference it makes.
Jesus invented strategic distraction/deception. The great master of the matador's cape.
1 John 5:7- For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. You can’t tell me that a trinitarian who is as knowledgeable as this man speaking believes there are 3 separate in heaven.
If you are a Trinity believer, then you believe Stephen lied. Not one verse in the Bible teaches Trinity. In the name of the Father, Son and Spirit. That name is Jesus. Acts 2:38. You also do not believe that The Fathers Word was made flesh just like us. Jesus has his own Spirit by which we are saved.
5:43
If you read the Bible how can you not believe in the trinity it is evident from the book of genesis and on
To understand my point, you must accept this view (temporarily) and search the canon scriptures. The 'Christ Utterance' or spoken word that stems from the power of God the Father who revealed in 'ALL authority and power in heaven and earth' (no more or no less). This Creational manifestation is the universe that we live in with the fallen angels. This creational power in manifestation, is what God the Father who is Life-Giving Holy Spirit gave to the Only begotten son upon earthly death and resurrection when he ascended far above ALL heavens into the Father's presence or throne room. If there is any interest, I can give more knowledge to paint you a more complete picture. Rid yourself of the trinity doctrine and get woke.
Dudes all over the place. Can we get onto a point and stay there?
Doug is self absorbed quite alarming and very uncomfortable in his own skin makes you wonder