The Stand - Stephen King BOOK REVIEW
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@Better Than Food You should check out Robert mccammon’s swan song, that epic was everything Stand wasn’t and never got the fame it deserved.
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I DEVOURED this book at a 15 year old and loved it. That was 10 years ago and I haven't read it since. My favorite part was the random chapter about people who survived captain trips but then almost immediately died accidentally.
That part stuck with me as well lol
What chapter was this? I read the book but don't remember this part, and now I'm really curious.
@@pascalpiers3215 it's in the beginning on the extended version!
"No great loss"
@@erinkubat thanks!!!
Holy shit this is the most negative review I've ever seen from Cliff. Very refreshing to hear him tear into something for once, like REALLY disembowel a book. Had me ctfu
Pet Semetary is my favourite King novel. And whilst King does go on tangents with his writing, I feel like people don't give him enough credit for all the fantastic stories he's created. There are seldom few authors that can boast a bibliography as strong and as consistent as King!
I always say that King is a good storyteller but a bad writer. And the best writer without a story is nothing but the worst writer with a great story is going to gain a lot of fans.
@@wardm4 it depends on how you look at it. For me, I think of good writing as a clear and honest delivery of the story. When you have to go back and reread a sentence or a passage because you go "huh? what the hell is he talking about?": that's bad writing. Never happened to me with King. You may not like the lack of subtle themes, but there's certainly tons of allegories in his books.
@@JuanMartinez-ib7mz that’s probably because King writes at a 6th grade reading level
@@joemurray6522 it doesn't matter to me unless the story is good. I don't read to learn how to write
Loved the book up until the ending. I know King is kinda known for having shitty endings, but jeez. A literal Deus Ex Machina saves the day really quick and kinda jarringly out of knowhere, and then it is over. Took a lot of the wind out of the sails of the stories progression and focus on the efforts of the characters up until that point just to have God come down real quick and finish the evil off. So anticlimatic.
Yeah and Randall was pretty bad here compared to the dark tower. It's like in the stand he was just a beta version. he really didn't do all that much on screen. To a point where I thought that Harold was creepier than Randal.
Luckily Flagg lives in the end.
Trash Can Man was the true hero all along. 🤪
And, how about the fact that Flagg is barely even slowed down after that “ending?”
King always gets shit about his endings, even from big fans. His prose gets criticized by non-fans, and his long drawn out descriptions that aren’t needed.
I remember in one book he takes pages to explain the cloth napkins used, with the thread count, and other monotonous factoids, just to make it more believable when a character uses them to make a rope.
So mother Abigail leaves on a trip alone in the wilderness, comes back dead but with enough life left in her to give a message
"You four go walk over to Vegas"
Aw yeah...
The way I like to think about it is, the world was not saved by God, it was saved by Trash Can Man, who was my favorite character. He was the element of Chaos, which can go either way.
Trashy's an excellent character
I thought that the TV series used "Don't Fear the Reaper" for the initial mass dying montage but my memory might be wrong. Anyway, that was MY soundtrack.
yes, it was that one
King thought of The Stand as sort of his American version of Lord of The Rings when it wrote it and has said that it's one of the most asked about books. If I recall he said in an Interview that people ask about the characters like Stu and Fran as if he was still in contact with them. That all said I remember reading this in my early teens and it was pretty amazing. I remember the plague spreading and people slowly dying, I remember Fran taken care of her dad as he died and having to dig his grave. I don't really remember the riots and stuff so much but I remember in the middle of the book he wrote about random people dying from some injury or another after he tells you their life story. I could never read it because that first have feels so depressing. He really makes you feel about characters and force you to watch them slowly die.
Have you read 11/22/63? It's probably one of King's best books in my opinion. Actually has a great ending too, which sadly, is pretty rare for King.
My favourite too. Along with Green Mile and Hearts In Atlantis
That one is my number 1
IT being a super close number 2
This one might be one of your most entertaining reviews so far
are you ever going to finish ulysses?
Yup, thanks for the reminder.
@Flynn, Christian good boy
I read The Complete and Uncut Edition when I was in high school. It took
me a year to get through the book. Once they got to the town,
everything seemed to stop. There was so much that didn't need to be
included in the book.
Trashcan Man getting raped by The Kid wasn't necessary at all. Sure it explains how he travels around closer to Vegas, but still, many of better ways to explain that
thanks for being an adult.
Every time you say horror I'm hearing something else!
My favorite parts of the book were the committee meetings where they're just trying to figure out how to rebuild and get back to some sense of normalcy whilst also dealing with this guy who wants them dead for reasons unknown to them
I don't know if this is too obvious, like I thought everybody literate has read it, but The Alexandria Quartet by Laurence Durrell (4 books) is one of my favorites. My Yule tip for you. Thanks for all you do! Merry Solstice!
I know that life is too short to read bad books, but I'm glad you did in this case, and I genuinely want to thank you for reading this just because of how entertaining the review was. In all seriousness, I think you've done a lot to make lots of people's 2020 just a little bit brighter and I hope you never stop doing what you do.
I agree. This review was hilarious to watch. I liked the change of tone. We need some laughs, especially in these times.
Paraphrasing Stephen King: bad books show you what NOT to do. like using the word Zest.
One of your most sardonic review ever. Love it!
I really love this book, until King blew up my favorite character, and goes 'fuck it' for what turns out to be a massive chunk of novel. I feel like he did this with the entire Dark Tower series too, but I don't want to argue with people who love it. Stephen King writes bad endings in my opinion, but that's just me.
Keep making these please; you were the only book review channel that delivered on RUclips. It's great
@NoseKey Pretty great and detailed review there, you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. It reminds me of the Metal Gear Solid games...dire need of an editor. How many pages could have been shaved, and that energy put into good plot resolution and firm character detail
"And this is coming from the guy wearing this hat" got an actual "lol" from me so thanks for that haha.
Also, I thought part of your shtick was no negative reviews? Was this the first one you have ever done? Not calling this out as a criticism, negative reviews are as valuable as positive ones really. I actually wouldn't mind hearing some negative opinions you may hold about more literary works.
My biggest complaint with the book was there seemed to be this huge build up a grand showdown. Yet, that showdown never happened.... anticlimactic in my opinion
please do a review of one of the major Thomas Hardy novels, particularly Mayor of Casterbridge, or Far from the Madding Crowd
Nobody gonna mention the awesome Elvis Presley impression.
You know I really appreciate that, thank you.
I wonder how will you react to emotional torture p*rn novel 'A Little Life' by Hanya Yanagihara.
Reading this book was one of misfortunes of 2020 for me.
I was actually laughing at that book by the end, it just got silly after a point and nothing had any weight because it felt like it just tried to be chocking. Torture porn.
@@bobba515 It is impossible that one person's life could be that tragic but It is actually the reason why enjoyed reading it. I felt the exhaustion and grief that the author convey to the reader.
Merry Christmas, Clif.
Merry Christmas Clayton!
Great review! I think another good title for this topic is Blindness (Ensaio sobre a cegueira), by Portuguese author José Saramago. A man waiting on a red light suddenly goes blind, but instead of seeing everything black, it all goes completely white, and it ends up being an extremely contagious blindness and shatters all the foundations of societies, showing us what could happen if it came to that extreme. Besides, the characters have no names, so that's interesting considering the theme.
Still looking forward to a Sebald or Krasznahorkai review!
Could not agree more -- it's great and then it's not. Not to mention that Randall Flagg is about as scary as the lame Antichrist character in those terrible Left Behind books. (I'm otherwise a big King fan)
The song at the beginning of the original miniseries was Blue Oyster Cult's Don't Fear The Reaper.
Stephen is much better on set ups than endings
my favorite book ever. I have close friends trapped inside those pages
I looove this book!
Great story and great characters.
😎👍🏼
I had to take a break from reading it at least twice. Actually this method makes sense.
I read the first part. Took a break. Let the memory settle. Read the next part. Now it made more sensible since I ceased to compare with the first part and felt less offended by the detours and the shapeshifted storyline.
I just finished the behemoth that is the stand. M-o-o-n spells FINALLY FINISHED. Mixed feelings. A lot of it was good some of it was great (I got misty eyed during Stu and Tom’s Christmas morning), but it was all definitely too long. In fact I’m now in the “Stephen King books are unnecessarily too long” camp. Not all of them but a lot of them. Too many. I also greatly disagree with the people who say this is his best novel and I don’t know how anyone could even make that claim unless they’re wanting to inflate how good it is bc it’s such a long book they feel they deserve to say that OR they’ve barely read any other Stephen king novels. Anyway I’m rambling. Good video ! I agree with much of it
I know what you mean about the association with Crowded House's "Don't Dream It's Over" and the TV adaptation of The Stand -- Molly Ringwald and Corin Nemec aka Parker Lewis Can't Lose.
I read the stand this summer, because it seemed to be the right moment. And I agree with your review. Stephen King always comes up with great ideas but then somehow they fail to evolve and die painfully slow...
I read The Stand back in 2015 during my Christmas break from college. Now to see five years later you reviewing it....masterpiece. Your criticism of this book is on point. I felt that the happy ending was ok, especially since I was reading a lot of post-apocalyptic novels that were very dark and pessimistic to some degree, so it was nice to see something optimistic. But man, this novel was over written and, now that I'm older, a bit cliched.
Couldn't agree more with your review! IT is the superior King epic imo
They're both completely different, can't really compare them... both are great!
I always saw Flagg's anti-drug usage as a sort of political platform to make himself more attractive to his followers and to distract them from the truly heinous stuff going down. Kind of like how when Mussolini rose to power, he said that he would make all the trains run on time.
I took it as Flagg being a control freak. Drug addiction would make a person serve a different master other than him. And risks messing up orders he gives a person if they are intoxicated
Cliff wearing clout goggles while reviewing The Stand during a global pandemic. What a time to be alive.
In addition to people pissing themselves, Kings also got a fixation witch shoving stuff up peoples asses. See Billy Summers, The Stand, The Library Policeman, The Shawshank Redemption, The Outsider, Rose Matter...
Funny thing about King that I've noticed. The opening premise of the novel/series he's writing is usually much different than the rest of the book. Example; The Gunslinger is far and away the worst book in the Dark Tower series, myself finding it very boring and like an extended prologue than anything else. The Drawing of the Three, on the other hand, is where he really picks up with the various character dynamics and lessons Roland has to teach, and provides a rough outline for how the rest of the series is to go. I'd almost say you could skip The Gunslinger were it not for Jake's presence in it.
I don't know if anyone else here is mentioned it but the opening montage to the original stand miniseries is overlaid by BOC's 'Don't Fear The Reaper'... Don't Dream It's Over is play later in the film I'm pretty sure by Molly ringwald's character
Can I just say how strange it is that Stephen king changes dates in updated editions of his books?
Some people are into metaphysical horror... Some aren't... I enjoyed "The Stand" for the very reasons you didn't---the metaphors of the cosmic struggle at the end of the world.
Not related to the video, but I'm so excited to watch your review of Gravity's Rainbow. I'm doing using the reddit group read to help me navigate it, and I've really been enjoying it.
Except the ending I really loved the book.
OMG Cliff, I feel you there my man! I have such a complicated history with King. For the Stand I absolutely LOVED the first volume and HATED the second one. And in general my problem with King is that his stories are almost always way too long for no reason and his endings... Well you know this is a thing.
But I give him a pass. Because he wrote The Dark Tower. Unlike many people I liked the ending. A lot. And the whole thing. A real clusterfuck. But a brilliant one. One of the best saga for me. So no matter how much craps he write I forgive him. And I always try to read him even if I'm most often disappointed. It's weird.
Fantastic review. I feel like you just saved me 40+ hours of reading.
It’s a great book.
This harsh criticism is undeserved.
Form your own opinions
The characters in "The Stand" are stereotypes of what an US american may think how US americans may be. And the fundamental evangelism in the later chapters is terrible. The first chapters about the plague are okay, but all in all:
- if you'd like to read a good apocalyptic story, read "Seveneves" by Neal Stephenson.
- if you like something disturbing and horrifying (also my opinion), read "Blood meridian".
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Lincoln
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I get ya didn’t like the book Cliff but did you really need to kink-shame poor old Stephen like that lmao
Harold Bloom was right about Stephen King.
Harold Bloom was human skidmark who was full of himself and liked the sound of his own voice, a narrow minded douche bag.
@@zharapatterson, but he was right about Stephen King. You may like this: ruclips.net/video/fLBXe3z9zx8/видео.html
Ok, I love Stephen King especially vintage SK(when he was doing cocaine like it was going out of style), but I'm willing to hear dissenting views; we can't/don't like the same things, and that's what makes life interesting, frankly. If we all liked the same things, life would be dull for sure.
I know some people thought, most people thought Covid was going to Captain Tripp's, certain state Governors still like to pretend it was but hopefully in 2021, we now know better and demand better governance. I'm a restaurant owner, so please, I'm begging us as Americans to drive out the fear and let businesses get back up to doing what they do, get children back in school, and let us get back to life. We were promised a Captain Tripps, but fell far short of that....we should all be thankful. I know I am.
Edit: Whenever SK writes love scenes they are often, if not always, cringy. After hearing Cliff's review, I may have to re-read this book and see where I went wrong. I really did like it.
I tried to read The Stand but the sheer length put me off, however, having read the likes of The dead zone, Needful things, Misery and Salem's lot they are entertaining but afterwards immediately forgettable.
In the end Randall lives and evil is never defeated...it changes form .yeah it's cliché. Good read though. It's like that sunday show you enjoy Even if there are way greater shows out there.
No clue how Underwood is a stereotype but okay.
don't read many books these days but I do enjoy your videos.
I bet you're a big Harold Bloom fan right?
I don't know how many of you have seen the trailer for the new The Stand show (or was it for tv movie?). Its supposed to have some reflections on the modern times since it was finished during covid. BUT what is really strange is that when the trailer shows the "sin city" Las Vegas they included some dancing, I suppose gay probably, guys dancing on stage in leather. It was very uncomfortable because there is nothing inherently wrong with people partying in leather. It may have made sense in the 90s The Stand show/movie. Anyone notice that part in the new trailer?
I read this when I was 12. I think that's why I love it so much.
Same. I've read it every single summer since. ❤️
I'd like you to say to Randall Flagg's face that he is a LOWER demon?
Tough but good review, appreciate your honesty, I love the book but your points are valid, I think a lot of people who went thru the journey of finishing the tome only want to see the good parts after spending so much time.
As many people have reflected, it’s fascinating to see you do a negative review. After watched your show for a few years, I had come to believe you focused on the books that deeply impacted you. You are clearly searching for something with every book you read. It’s impressive. And that made this review of particular note. You really gave people who are learning how to read seriously a way to understand why some books are vital and others stand in the way of growth and the expansiveness of the universe. Cheers.
Maybe you'd like to check out "Wanderers" by "Chuck Wendig". Starts from a similar premise, but with much more thought provoking story.
everyone tells/has told me this book was genius, i felt like the first part was super gritty, genuinely scary to see society decline to nothing. that whacky biblical shit was too much. i always pictured Randall flagg having other-worldly black skin. that scene between nadine cross and randall flagg definitely fucked me up, like for a week no foolin. m-o-o-n spells demon rape.
I feel justified by you, this book didn't worked out well for me as well. 🤷🏻♀️
I own basically every single Stephen king book. And to be fair a lot of his craft especially his „world building“, creating atmospheric and believable worlds, is one of his strength.
If you have the time do yourself a favor and read „11/22/63“ by king. If you haven’t done already. My favorite book because he describes the late 50s and early 60s in a very fascinating way. I felt „right therrrrrr“ and I also loved that there is a short section when he meets characters from the „IT“ novel, the main character living for short while in the depressing hell hole of „Derry“..No horror though. Just interesting story about decisions, destiny, time Travel etc oh and a romance I actually cared for.
You had me until “random lesser servant of hell.” Like wait, what?
You should read Clive Barker if you want more intellectual horror/dark fantasy.
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Feeling like it could be deep but isn’t is Steven King’s main trick imo. He writes thrillers that feel a little smarter than regular thrillers but aren’t
I disagree. I think his main trick is writing a compelling story with characters you care about
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Incredible read 📖 with massive nuggets for 2021. ❣
Ha, nice to see you posting a negative review for a change (even tho what I like about your channel is the curator-like aspect of it). But hey, nice Christmas present.
When I was a kid I used to read terrible horror novels (Herbert, Masterton, Hutson) and King was a sort of bridge between trashy horror novels to better literature. Not read King in 30 plus years but he served a purpose.
Just a question: if there is a multiverse with titles in same universe, if the whole population is wiped out how can other titles act as if everything is normal
For anyone who likes or desires to read something similar to 'The Stand' I've heard that Robert Mccammon's 'Swan Song' is worth the read. Of course it depends on preference but some readers believe it's better than 'The Stand'.
Based Cliff. This one was a treat!
I remember reading this at 15 and loving it right up to the point where the pandemic is over. Put the book down and never picked it up again.
Same thing happened to me! I read it at 18 until the flu is over. I did watch the mini series but just recently, 40 years later, l read the book.
I've been meaning to read this for a long time mostly because of your namedrop of the book in your The Plague review and was really hoping you would review it, and I'm not disappointed. Also if you see this PLEASE review Murakami.
Love the way your hat complements your mustache. Love your videos too. Merry christmas!
I thìnk it's the worst book of stpehen king's career. I respect him... but this book was poorly and over stretched..... So poorly overstretched... the ending was unsatisfying.... and also the story didn't do justice to the characters.... I am sorry to say but this was a miss.... So poorly overstretched.. there were lines that were good but it's so poorly overstretched..
I love King...mostly due to my 80s teen angst and his friendly / friendy writing style. But this book was not good. Not 40 years ago and not today. I was bored by it. Now compare to Pet Semetery, Dolores Claiborne or Misery...very good writing there. Based on convos over the years, you either love or hate The Stand.
I want to respond about your disliking of Kings giving plot points. There's a paragraph in pet cemetery about the death of the young kid that tells you that his about to die, it works there really god because it contrast the very naive scene that took place prior. But then again I havent read the stand so...
I read this for the first time last year and loved it. But I also jumped in not expecting anything too deep for literature. But this is the kind of pulpy shit I like to read in between books like Blood Meridian!
I like the deep literature too. What other books would you recommend. The Stand was good but I wish it were deeper.
Wont excuse the deus ex machina but how is your other complaints that different from other books when you praise them for real literature.
Magical stuff isn't that scary huh tell that to lovecraft
Read it as a teenager (meh). Have the uncut version...and I'm on the fence again.
A fair review, sir.
For me it was similar case with " the shining" promising first half and then dissapointing unfolding the closer to the end
What does the hand of god need with a Nuke?
Got that one from Star Trek V didn’t you? 😂
The thing with The Stand is that it's a part of a far greater narrative King constructed since he was a child literally impressed by Lord of the Rings. And that narrative is The Dark Tower.
As a standalone it doesn`t work. But he was struggling for money, so he put it into a way too big novel for commercial reasons, building on his established fame.
Thank you for this review. I'm not crazy after all!
“maybe there are some through lines through the writing of stephen king”
buddy, u have no idea
16:44 - 16:52 I think that this quote summarize it pretty much
Who's even worse than King in this kind of writing is Dean Koontz. If you want some heavy handed sermonizing, Koontz is your man. Bleech...
Appalling.
@GWEN SNYDER I've heard Dean Koontz has a repetitive obsession with writing about talking/intelligent dogs in his books. Lol! I have a couple of his books on my kindle but haven't read them yet.
@@kaylemkerr6989 Lol, yes, it's true. And it's always a golden retriever. He actually had one, named Trixie, that died. I guess he misses her.
Good review. I respect your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree.
Hello Cliff, good to see you.
King is highly overrated that's the problem.
My father endlessly read Stephen King before switching over in his retirement to everything James Patterson has ever done. But, honestly, after the life he's lead, I don't blame him for reading mindless entertainment.
Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry. Best western ever.
OMG! Yes!!!!!!
The only Stephen King book I've ever read. Scared to S#!t out of me. Hated it.
try reading Duma Key, Revival or Different Seasons
I'm trying to read this book but it was been on hold for months... A character that I really liked died, and the thing is so good versus evil, kinda boring. Let me see if your video gets me excited to continue the reading.
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Edit: I guess not hehe. The beginning is genius, like you said, the best part is the random people who are immune but die anyway due to the colapse of civilization.
I've always felt like the odd one out for finding The Stand one of King's lesser books. I don't see what everyone else does. Unlike 99% of his books, I didn't feel anything for the characters, and the entire story seemed bloated and crowded and unremarkable.
The Dark Tower character?