I mean you're not really _with_ someone until they say they're willing to be _with_ you, so until then... yeah dating sucks. Just being friends is easier
As a man that's been married for 11 years, I feel like young people dating boils down to two main problems. Instant gratification and patience being the two. Everyone wants this perfect person while putting in little to no work. Then if you're bored or don't feel like you want to try, the next "soul mate" is just a click away. The goal is to find someone with your core values and work-on/accept that they may be lacking in other area.
I agree. People thought it was a good idea to turn others into disposable coffee cups they can burn through daily. It has really affected people more than they realize
I feel like that's more specifically a problem for people who are chronic social media users or chronic dating app users. I'm neither of those things, and dating my boyfriend feels remarkably easy.
Also, I didn't quite understand that the two people in the video were so annoyed by the answer "I want someone who values trust and loyalty". How was that a bad answer? What else could the answer even be?
TL;DR There are two main ways of conducting conversation and neither is necessarily the correct way As one of the people who "doesn't know how conversations work," I'd like to elucidate why it might feel that way to you (or more realistically someone like you reading this comment.) When it comes to conversation there are two types of people. "Givers" and "Takers". Now as you pointed out a conversation has to have a "give and take" but what counts as "give and take" depends on whether you are a giver or a taker. You for example are a "Giver", in your mind conversation should be a series of questions. Person A asks a question, and Person B answer and gives a question of their own. Your idea of "give and take" leans towards "give and give", I give you a prompt, you give me a prompt, rinse and repeat. From the perspective of a "Taker, " conversations are not a series of questions but declarations. In this way, the form of "give and take" leans more towards "take and take". You make a statement, I take your statement and give my response/interpretation, rinse and repeat. Everything is smooth when two people of the same mentality talk, but when a Giver and a Taker meet, it doesn't go so well. As you said often the Giver is left feeling like the Taker is self-important and that they don't actually have an interest in you. But from the Taker's perspective, the Giver may seem like they don't actually care about the questions they ask, as instead of making a declaration of their thoughts, they respond with a related question. Usually, though, a taker-taker conversation starts with a question, while a giver-giver conversation ends with a declaration. Here is an example of a giver-giver, taker-taker, and giver-taker conversation to give a practical example Giver-Giver A: Ok what food have you been really craving recently? B: Man, I've been wanting some Thai food but I haven't found any good places. Do you know if there are any around here? A: There's actually a really good one just a few blocks from here actually, you want to grab something? B: Absolutely let's go! Taker-Taker A: You want to grab something to eat? B: I've actually been really craving Thai food but I don't think there are any good places around here. A: What!? There's a great Thai place just a few blocks from here. B: Nice, if you're down to go I'll tag along. Giver-Taker "A will be Giver / B will be Taker" A: Have you been craving anything recently? B: I haven't had donuts in forever. A: Is there any kind of donut you like specifically? B: Yeah, I'm a bit boring though because I like a classic glazed. A: I could go for a donut, Want to go grab some? My treat. B: Sure let's go As you can see the first two examples actually flow well, but the third example, while it does still flow like a conversation, leaves A feeling like an interviewer and kind of having to always work around what B says, and leaves B feeling like A doesn't have anything interesting of their own to say and the conversation feels stale. Now what causes someone to be a giver or a taker can be a variety of reasons. For example, the reason I'm a taker is that I generally don't care about the small stuff, especially if we are just getting to know each other. I don't really care how your day was or what your favorite snack is or whatever. So in conversation instead of both of us trading information, I'd rather we come together to create "new" information. For example, if we were talking about philosophy, instead of both of us explaining our philosophical beliefs to each other, I'd rather us challenge each other's statements or give a different interpretation of a pre-existing belief as opposed to exploring what we already know of ourselves. Obviously, as with all things, a conversation isn't really this simple. It's not this black and white, no one is purely a giver or taker, and a conversation will always have a mix of statements and questions, but on a bird's eye level, this idea can really help understand another person and where they are coming from to better communicate. I hope this long spiel helped someone understand why a conversation doesn't seem to be clicking and give them some insight on how you can go about fixing it. There's so much that goes into the dynamic of a conversation, and they dynamics of Give and Taker are also so deep and colorful but that's it for my comment o7
Kind of noticed a similar thing. I try to make statements and ask questions, but it still does get a bit annoying when the other person doesn’t ask anything at all. I’m better at it in person because I just adjust to the conversation, but it can get awkward over text
"I hate dating because everyone is doing it wrong" really is a vibe 😂 Like it's WAY harder to be a bad friend, you've got to be actively wronging people. But dating? Just-- _ugh_
@@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414did that too, people will treat you as one then and continue dating with others or say "sorry I didn't feel the spark" after the first date and move on. It highly depends on the person but most of the time you got to find a slim balance between being flirtatious and bonding as friends. Too much flirting will cause people to say "Sry I'd rather take it slow" which is the younger brother of being friendzoned.
@@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414Thats a brilliant tactic if you wanna be her gay best friend realistically thats all youre gonna get out of "just being friendly"
I sometimes get insecure about my lack of romantic experiences as a 22 yo. But when I read people’s opinions on the internet and they say “just start dating”, I just didn’t even understood at first. I was like “…how? I never met anyone I would like…what do you mean by starting dating?”, I thought “dating=being in a relationship”… But then I read more and I see that “get into dating=start going on DATES with strangers”…that surprised me a bit… Because I always had only one scenario in my head: you meet someone,as you just live your life, you become friends, and then you maybe fall in love and then date each other…the end. And unfortunately, I feel like I don’t really have much of a choice, because that’s the only way I can potentially find a partner, otherwise, when I think about “dating/going on dates/using apps” I immediately think “…why?…why would I want to go on a meeting with a stranger?…for getting into a relationship?-do I really need it that badly?…not really…I mean, if I find someone I like - okay, but purposefully searching?-…meh. What about +18 thing?-I don’t care about it…and also people on apps mostly look for this +18 thing, and they would be rather disappointed if I say “I don’t do that, probably never will”…so that’s another reason not to date”, and I also need way too much time to even figure out if I would like you as a friend, I can’t really do that or more just after 1-3 meetings…and the internet says that im supposed to make up my mind in this short period of time😅…or even…*do stuff*…and I’m not comfortable with that While I sometimes get lonely, especially when I look at cute couples being cute, and even get scared “what’s wrong with me? Im 22 and never even had my first kiss…”, most of the times - I don’t crave it much And feels like my whole personality and preferences are against “casual/active dating”😅 So it’s either I just stumble upon someone as I go through life (which chances probably not that high), or I’ll just…be alone forever😂 and not much in between
I’m 24 and I’ve felt exactly the same. There’s nothing wrong with you or me. We know what we want it’s mostly other people who don’t know what they want. Just live life and you’ll bump into someone.
broooo your comment and this video made me realize how normal I am :0 I thought for the longest that I was demiromantic or something but I think I just know what I want like the other commenter said, and that everyone else doesn't know what they're doing fr
It sounds like you need that platonic love. Knowing that love isn't always about romance or sex, I'd say you should hang out with your friends and family more often or find more friends. 🤔😄
Find out what the person likes and then get them to talk about it People light up and are more engaged when talking about what they like; it makes the conversation more enjoyable for everyone involved honestly !
@@SultanSketches exactly bro cause like i met this girl at my school and shes super shy but cute so like she didnt talk to me much until we found out we had the same interests yk yk
Idk if ur aware autism is a thing. These ppl took the how are u convo literally and didn't mean to not ask back. It's pretty ignorant to be like ,"how do u not know how a conversation works". Autism is a social disability and unless an autistic person is able to socialize enough to know hat, they will take it literally. It feels rather judgmental to be so upset over that. I get ur probably being dramatic, idk if u know it makes u looks snobby, lol. I'm a fan, just tryna point out u have no clue what autism is and just assumed stuff about random ppl. @@SultanSketches
@@wakpak4399 It was kinda of hilarious, I had tears and I was laughing so hard. The first part of the sentence gave me bad vibes, but the swamp part kinda made me think that this guy's idea of a joke is a dam good one
@@Blazingle I absolutely hate that I can't just give a compliment to someone of the opposite gender without it seeming like flirting. Or be really good friends with someone without people thinking we're together. So I really appreciate this comment XD
@@bananatheo3796 For men and women past puberty to be friends there has to be a certain level of attraction there, though usually there's something (or a lot) missing to go full relationship - this could arise later on or it could permanently be missing and the two just stay friends or drift apart. This is why OP has a point, but so do you. Note: Technically, it should be 'human males and females' instead of 'men and women' - since passage into adulthood is required to qualify as a man or a woman, which isn't the same as hitting puberty, but this version sounds too clinical and thus I've stuck to the technically inaccurate terms that sound less like I'm some sort of alien.
I am 1000% genuinely unsure why some people don't notice when they do this ??? If I've talked about myself for more than 30 seconds I start to ick myself (thank you I also chuckled when I did that 💀)
@@SultanSketches I feel the same way, I've been in a few toxic relationships if you can even call it that and it was just about them. Like how can you do that even if you are narcissistic ??? I don't understand
@@SultanSketches I personally feel that if you can't talk about yourself for at least 30 seconds, I can't learn enough about you. I can understand being bugged by like a full 2 minutes of "I don't enjoy wearing makeup because it makes my skin all itchy", that's information I didn't really want, but like, I wanna hear someone talk for an extended period of time about something they're passionate about.
Ok... as someone who's NEVER dated but certainly had people ask them out and one very bad first date... I crave a relationship/date explained in this video! The only 1st date I've been on was really rushed, we went to a cafe and the guy talked ALL about himself and I just sat there waiting for a proper conversation. Ngl though, the other reason I've never dated throughout high school and now is because I feel like I'm scared of dating apps and also currently questioning my sexuality.
I'm so glad you pointed out how people only talk about themselves during dates. Some nuts told me (I'm a boy) to talk about myself a lot, but I want to know more about the girl too! I'm not trying to get a one night stand. I want a loving, romantic relationship! I want to know about the other girl, but here comes all of the women that say "wOmEn sHoUld NoT fEeL oBlIgAtEd To SpEaK wHeN asKeD a qUeSTiOn!" Like... is common human decency dead?
Watching this, I'm thinking. "Yeah people can't talk on apps it's ridiculous" Then "Oh God these two just throw away dates like their worthless, maybe they're the problem too."
I adore your artstyle so much, I'd love if you made art tutorial videos or just a video about your drawing process, because your art style is like exactly the type of art style I want to have that it's insane
I forget to ask "how are you" after being asked how i am sooo often, but that's due to me only thinking "don't overexplain, don't information dump, don't be annoying" and i forget it in the panic XD
Here he lies, a Great RUclipsr that won't be forgotten, his amazing storytelling pleases you even at the worst of your days, or at the best of it. Come back man, I'll wait years and decades if i have to. That's a promise.
watching this as a freshly minted 18 year old makes me never wanna download dating apps or try dating ever. Maybe good ol' mom can give me marriage candidate pamphlets.
Reading sultans dating app name I thought it said slut instead of sult Either way I think that would be accurate and I mean that in the most positive way possible
I think the question "How was your day" has the potential to reveal a lot about a person. For example: do they focus on good or bad things? Do they complain about or praise certain people? (If so: whats their relationship with them) Or simply: how much are they willing to share with you? There is a big difference between "work was rough" and "I messed up some stuff and got scolded for it" Or "my day was great" and "I got to see cute puppies in the park" (though that could also be a follow up)
While I agree with that, it's very easy to shorten your view on things when texting. In person, you see everything in real time (glances, fidgets, stutters, etc.) while you can be aloof in messages. You can't edit yourself or delete things you've said irl. Even if they want to share a lot, it's assumed that putting in effort like that looks desperate, so many don't elaborate in order to feel "above it all".
@@SultanSketches ikr, anyways, I hope your day is going well, mine is cause I'm making it my own self care sunday but on a Saturday lol. (Translation: I'm wearing a pretty dress cause the serotonin demands it lol)
9:04 This note should have been a full screen disclaimer at the start of the video. I mean, up to this point I was thinking that clearly you had bad experiences dating because you seemed to think dating is such a shallow thing, but now that I see this note, now it makes so much sense. Though, personally, I will absolutely flat out ask people to tell me what they are passionate about or some other thought provoking question, and I do this LONG before I figure out if we are compatible or not. Like, "What are you passionate about?" is an early first conversation question for me.
See, problem is, I get so lost trying to answer a question like "How are you?" that by the time I'm done answering, I forget to ask it back. I've also just assumed that if someone wants to talk, they'll just talk, and I don't need to ask much. That's always how I've been, I often share bits about my life to relate to people in conversation, and I've always assumed that's how Other people are. I guess I just hang out with neurodivergent people like myself a lot, cause all my interactions with people that I didn't get bored of, were interactions where I shared something about me, and then the person shared something about them, I didn't have to ask anything, because what Am I supposed to ask? "Do you have a similar experience you can share?" I Want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but if I just talked about how I've been to this cute cat cafe the next city over, it's hard to come up with a question that both fits what I just said that may even applies to the person I'm talking to, like; "Do you like cats?" "No" "Ah, ok. Why not?" "Never have, just not interested" "Ah." Or should I ask; "Have you ever been to a cat cafe?" "No" "Ah ok." Those things don't even apply to the person, seeing as they don't like cats So instead I wait for Them to share something that's Actually relevent to them. Cause if you are just asking questions, you go through various questions that don't interest the person, and they're obligated to answer instead of talking about what they ACTUALLY wanna talk about. Whereas if you're just talking about what you want to talk about, instead of answering random boring questions, and you both do that, you can have a flow of conversation, or so I've experienced. I guess I understand if people don't wanna talk about themselves, to me that feels like you are too afraid to try to make a connection, which I get, but it just feels so hard to talk to someone that is unwilling to talk about themselves, cause I don't get to know the person.
sultan, i love the simple art style and your conversation like videos just make me so fking happy, please focus more on making more conversations then on making good animation, cuz you are so fking interesting everything you say can become a video.
i do understand that there should ge give and take, and an actual back and forth dialog, but... Dating is literally an interview.... its literally an interview to see how well you 2 can get along, but its an interview for both not just one. so reciprocation is better to be done in action rather then hearing their answer then being like "I also like these things, we will get along fine" in your head, because then in realty you just sit there in silence with the other guy going "Wtf?!"
If it wasn’t for experience, I wouldn’t believe that most people are that bad at conversations! I’ve always felt bad about pelleting my friends with questions for the sake of the conversation, but after watching this video I’ve realized my friends are just bad at communicating.
2:45 This is very true. Not a lot of people point out the flaws in other people's conversations. Mostly because of how "terrible" a person you are when you hurt someone else's "feelings". But it also doesn't help that we have so many parents who either got lucky when ending up with someone, unlucky when ending up with someone, or failed to teacher their kid how to date because they were both too busy working their jobs with school becoming most of their life's experience. And its not hard to believe that some people would rather keep that knowledge a secret because they don't want to "check" if the friend THEY walked up to even knows how to start a conversation. And yes, I speak from experience. To the point Sultan telling us what "give and take" means in this video is the first time I've ever heard it (and I know I talk about myself too much because I've read my own messages in chat rooms but have no other room or experience to guide the conversation anywhere else) And yes, online dating has made that worse despite how low the bar of entry is.
I’ve been in 5 relationships and way more dates than I care to try and remember in my 23 years and I’ve only met one of the 5 (my first gf) anywhere other than a dating app. There’s literally no other way to meet people these days. If you’re working, you don’t wanna be bothered. If you’re at the gym, you don’t want to be bothered. If you’re grocery shopping, same thing. Maybe you have a friend who might be cool but why risk ruining a solid friendship? Dating apps are the only way to really talk and also know full well that the other person is (probably) also looking for a partner
"Don't dip your pen in company ink" is a saying for a reason, if a relationship with a coworker doesn't work out and ends badly you've got to put up with the aftermath at work Gym's are either a really good place to meet people or the worst place and there's no inbetween and that's just meeting people in general nvm anyone you'd consider dating Can't think of anyone I've ever met at a store who wasn't with someone I already knew or knew the person I was with Only place to meet people naturally once you graduate highschool is college tbh
So funny how yall be like "Can't name a single good thing about dating" and i'm over here like "i mean, i'd imagine it'd help heal my chronic loneliness a bit, probably, right?"
Nope nope nope nope nope, if anything, you go on one good date and then they proceed to not go forward with you and it's like "okay, didn't hurt at all 🙃"
I forgot just how pretty you draw everyone. I'm watching this and something about how their smiles look crazed just gets me. Like I'm rewatching to look at the facial expressions.
on the milk thing, cows tend to eat a mixture of different plants grass is in there but so is clover and most other green plants, secondarily there is actually differences in milk for example irish milk is known to be very good, whereas european milks tend to be more chalky particularly french milk, contributing factors do include whether the cow is allowed to just graze or is kept inside all the time and fed hay and other dried animal feed, also it depends on the milk production because depending on where you get your milk the milk can be god in the fridge for two weeks ish, or it can be like the horrors of french milk and just shelved and left until you open it, the pasturzation of french mil kills all the bacteria but also gives it a deeply unpleasant taste like someone snuck a tablespoon of chalk into your milk
I suppose it’s nearly a million now, just around the corner. But what will change? Nothing, really. He’ll remain the same cherished person we all adore. Thank you
Honestly this video taught me the concept of give and take. Thanks for being so blunt about how a conversation works for my introverted ass. I'm equally as embarrassed as I am grateful 💀
i haven't watched your videos in years and this one came up in my recommended. I was honestly in shock seeing how much your art improved its insane. keep it up man
Ive been in online dating for like 2 years at this point, and even though a few relationships came out of that, theres literally so many conversations that were just a few sentences that i don't remember at all. People i matched with, exchanged a few words and stopped talking to either because they weren't my type or an enormous number of people that either say hi and dont respond after i say it back, dont respond to a startup message like wyd, how was your day, etc, or those that do respond to it with just like "Im fine." or "It was ok" AND ITS SO GODDAMN ANNOYING. i swear im so tired of it all i have no more energy for random internet people. Kinda been taking a break for a few months though more recently ive had the most luck with just meeting random people irl (bars and parties) or literally just through friends. That way theyre already vetted and probably cool and somewhat similar in vibes, its going so well.
My GF(now wife) is the best dating app conversator I ever met. A simple first conversation talk started everything, and I'm really thankfull for the way she answered. It was casual, but clever and smooth at the same time. Me: Hi, how are you today? Her: Pretty good, thanks! I just had a cup off coffee. Do you like coffee too? Me: not sure. I'm usually drinking tea, so I don't really know if I like coffee or not Her: oh...we can always grab some together and see what will suit your taste 😘 And then we talked more, hanged out, every conversation was just 💫gold💫, we visited every café in the area. Sadly my Coffee Freak is on koffeine ban due to expecting a baby. The first thing I'll do, after the delivery, is I'll take her to drink some coffee
This video is so correct, this doesn't even just apply to dating, but to making friends too. There are so many people who come up to me and be like " I'm so lonely, can you be my friend? 🥺" and then proceed to barely give me any response. Like I'll ask about them and most of the time they give me a very lackluster answer and sometimes not give anything back. Like c'mon people, friendship isn't something you just collect, you need to put in the effort or otherwise I'm going to stop talking to you.
I love listening to your conversations with friends, always so fun. Also, love the way you draw faces! As someone who loves the idea of relationships, but never has and wont for the forseeable future (prob aro) all this stuff seems wild to me. It's very interesting.
Oh man the conversation thing huuurts to listen to. As someone with autism this is one of those things I had to learn and it's still kinda awkward for me, but at the same time when someone doesn't pass the question back to me I fully get what you're saying. Fucking autism is hard man lol. But I feel called out even though I don't do this, agh.
you two are so effortlessly funny like i have been in genuinely the worst stage of my life the last two months. grieving a 3 yr relationship ending after not being single for like 7-8 years, no friends at all, having to live alone for the first time ever and struggling astronomically, complete isolation and just so much more.. and this video was 14 minutes of no weight on my mind and shoulders. no nasty voices in my head and not thinking about my chronic physical pain. just 14 minutes i never wanted to end, even though my face was sore n tired from smiling the entirety of the video??? i am a new watcher, this was in my recommended and i normally never leave my youtube 'comfort zone' and i never watch videos longer than like 5 minutes cause i havent experienced any ✨dopamine release✨ from videos in a *VERY* long time and only watch them as a weird all-day routine until my ass hurts from sitting at my pc and i take meds and sleep zzz.. but i had a pull to check this out and i mean, i havent felt much if any emotion from content in so long, but this had me hooked and smiling!! i even laughed for once!!! anywho, instant subscribe, and time to binge ur other content... thank you sultan. from the bottom of my heart.. thank you
I should say something about this... ahem. Yes, many people are not able to hold a conversation, but always remember that some may not want to hold a conversation.
Taking about the day is overpowered. It is an easy ask someone to get in there lives without breaking any strong boundaries. They will only tell you what they seem appropriat, so you can ask questions without making them feel pressured. Like: Q: How was your day? A: it was fine Q:What did you do? A: I walked the dog/Watched a movie/ trained etc. Then you can ask about the activity and hobbies that make the persons life and get to know them. Also you allready have three replies and the sunken cost fallacie kicks in. It is not that hard to get and hold a conversation on these apps but it is really exhausting
"You know whats worse than being alone? Dating." Well ill be that is quite the paradox
Kelly can get it
I mean you're not really _with_ someone until they say they're willing to be _with_ you, so until then... yeah dating sucks. Just being friends is easier
Indeed
@Don't Read My Profile Picture you got it
I am putting that in my tinder bio
As a man that's been married for 11 years, I feel like young people dating boils down to two main problems. Instant gratification and patience being the two. Everyone wants this perfect person while putting in little to no work. Then if you're bored or don't feel like you want to try, the next "soul mate" is just a click away. The goal is to find someone with your core values and work-on/accept that they may be lacking in other area.
I agree. People thought it was a good idea to turn others into disposable coffee cups they can burn through daily. It has really affected people more than they realize
I feel like that's more specifically a problem for people who are chronic social media users or chronic dating app users. I'm neither of those things, and dating my boyfriend feels remarkably easy.
I think I needed to hear this today. Thank you so much. I'll keep that in mind.
Also, I didn't quite understand that the two people in the video were so annoyed by the answer "I want someone who values trust and loyalty". How was that a bad answer? What else could the answer even be?
@rathalomaniac6212 Soooo, why are you still together with her then? Let me guess...just because of the sex?
Ah, yes. Watching Cosmo and Wanda talk about relationships is what I needed in my day.
no stop i cackled
Hey man! Been a while but I just wanted to say that I’m glad you’re back
BRO I DEAD
there’s no way 😂
Wanda vision wand Wanda vision. Wanda vision! *sparkle sparkle peazaaas*
I love Sultan, I hate it when he disappears LOL come back pookie the kids miss you
Like exactly where did he go??
Why is no one talking about this man, he literally joined a call with Amaazing... where is this man??
I feel like Sultan has switched art styles enough times we can give him the title of honorary spider-punk.
THIS MADE ME CHOKE
Sultan's art style is consistently inconsistent
HELL YES
He doesn’t believe in consistency
Okay but like isn’t that the biggest art mood ever? Switching art styles 27 times in 15 days
TL;DR There are two main ways of conducting conversation and neither is necessarily the correct way
As one of the people who "doesn't know how conversations work," I'd like to elucidate why it might feel that way to you (or more realistically someone like you reading this comment.) When it comes to conversation there are two types of people. "Givers" and "Takers". Now as you pointed out a conversation has to have a "give and take" but what counts as "give and take" depends on whether you are a giver or a taker. You for example are a "Giver", in your mind conversation should be a series of questions. Person A asks a question, and Person B answer and gives a question of their own. Your idea of "give and take" leans towards "give and give", I give you a prompt, you give me a prompt, rinse and repeat. From the perspective of a "Taker, " conversations are not a series of questions but declarations. In this way, the form of "give and take" leans more towards "take and take". You make a statement, I take your statement and give my response/interpretation, rinse and repeat. Everything is smooth when two people of the same mentality talk, but when a Giver and a Taker meet, it doesn't go so well. As you said often the Giver is left feeling like the Taker is self-important and that they don't actually have an interest in you. But from the Taker's perspective, the Giver may seem like they don't actually care about the questions they ask, as instead of making a declaration of their thoughts, they respond with a related question. Usually, though, a taker-taker conversation starts with a question, while a giver-giver conversation ends with a declaration.
Here is an example of a giver-giver, taker-taker, and giver-taker conversation to give a practical example
Giver-Giver
A: Ok what food have you been really craving recently?
B: Man, I've been wanting some Thai food but I haven't found any good places. Do you know if there are any around here?
A: There's actually a really good one just a few blocks from here actually, you want to grab something?
B: Absolutely let's go!
Taker-Taker
A: You want to grab something to eat?
B: I've actually been really craving Thai food but I don't think there are any good places around here.
A: What!? There's a great Thai place just a few blocks from here.
B: Nice, if you're down to go I'll tag along.
Giver-Taker "A will be Giver / B will be Taker"
A: Have you been craving anything recently?
B: I haven't had donuts in forever.
A: Is there any kind of donut you like specifically?
B: Yeah, I'm a bit boring though because I like a classic glazed.
A: I could go for a donut, Want to go grab some? My treat.
B: Sure let's go
As you can see the first two examples actually flow well, but the third example, while it does still flow like a conversation, leaves A feeling like an interviewer and kind of having to always work around what B says, and leaves B feeling like A doesn't have anything interesting of their own to say and the conversation feels stale. Now what causes someone to be a giver or a taker can be a variety of reasons. For example, the reason I'm a taker is that I generally don't care about the small stuff, especially if we are just getting to know each other. I don't really care how your day was or what your favorite snack is or whatever. So in conversation instead of both of us trading information, I'd rather we come together to create "new" information. For example, if we were talking about philosophy, instead of both of us explaining our philosophical beliefs to each other, I'd rather us challenge each other's statements or give a different interpretation of a pre-existing belief as opposed to exploring what we already know of ourselves.
Obviously, as with all things, a conversation isn't really this simple. It's not this black and white, no one is purely a giver or taker, and a conversation will always have a mix of statements and questions, but on a bird's eye level, this idea can really help understand another person and where they are coming from to better communicate. I hope this long spiel helped someone understand why a conversation doesn't seem to be clicking and give them some insight on how you can go about fixing it. There's so much that goes into the dynamic of a conversation, and they dynamics of Give and Taker are also so deep and colorful but that's it for my comment o7
I like this lot. Thanks for sharing! I reflected on this.
Kind of noticed a similar thing. I try to make statements and ask questions, but it still does get a bit annoying when the other person doesn’t ask anything at all. I’m better at it in person because I just adjust to the conversation, but it can get awkward over text
Where is the character limit 😭
"I hate dating because everyone is doing it wrong" really is a vibe 😂 Like it's WAY harder to be a bad friend, you've got to be actively wronging people. But dating? Just-- _ugh_
maybe go about dating how you would making friends?...that seems like the obvious choice to me...
@@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414did that too, people will treat you as one then and continue dating with others or say "sorry I didn't feel the spark" after the first date and move on. It highly depends on the person but most of the time you got to find a slim balance between being flirtatious and bonding as friends. Too much flirting will cause people to say "Sry I'd rather take it slow" which is the younger brother of being friendzoned.
@@seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414Thats a brilliant tactic if you wanna be her gay best friend realistically thats all youre gonna get out of "just being friendly"
that is just an humoristic video
That’s an interesting take.
Usually being friends with a person can lead to the friendzone and nobody wants to be that person.
"im back baby"
disappears for another year
seriously tho i hope hes okay
Well I've seen him on other channels so he's at least not dead!
Honestly being alone might as well be a canon event at this point 😂
"I got that reference"
I get the reference!!!!
I get the reference!!
time to put that in your dating bio.
Well, if you get in a relationship and you hear rapid clapping approaching you, you'll know why!
Are we gon talk about how much chemistry these two have just as friends lmao
That's a ton of chemistry they have, imo XD
i know
I’ve never watched these two and thought they were friends ranting about their dating experiences
@@merge9585 they are friends ranting about their dating experiences
It reminds me of a friend that I have. We can just bounce topics off of each other for hours and not even realise it.
You miss a 100% of the shots you don’t take
Sultan: “But if you miss it’s embarrassing” 😭
That is so true though..I took a shot and found out so many people still remembered..
14:24 THATS THE PERFECT TIMING TO SAY SMTHN ROMANTIC "I like it cause I got to meet you (actually niche relevant thing)'
As someone who is 21 and has never dated anyone in his lifeI think I am going to enjoy this video because I like hearing about the topic as well
Wow and I thought I didn't know how conversations worked, I'm kinda glad I don't use dating apps
@@mintspectrebecause dating app can blind dating or worst dating 😮
Same. I just turned 21 last month and I'm still single. I'm ok being single rn, but I'll give dating a try when I go back to college.
Same 😂 Dating is always such a horror story/comedy special of a topic !
I ain’t never had one yet I like to hear others talk about theirs.
Bro drops a banger once a year and then just dips
Sultan: "...We haven't said a single good thing about dating..."
Me: "Maybe its a sign..."
I came to the comments on a hunt for this
Pros of dating:
1) Free food
2) Potentially finding "The one"
3) Touch grass and know new restaurants to go to
Other than that, it sucks 😂😂
I sometimes get insecure about my lack of romantic experiences as a 22 yo. But when I read people’s opinions on the internet and they say “just start dating”, I just didn’t even understood at first. I was like “…how? I never met anyone I would like…what do you mean by starting dating?”, I thought “dating=being in a relationship”…
But then I read more and I see that “get into dating=start going on DATES with strangers”…that surprised me a bit…
Because I always had only one scenario in my head: you meet someone,as you just live your life, you become friends, and then you maybe fall in love and then date each other…the end.
And unfortunately, I feel like I don’t really have much of a choice, because that’s the only way I can potentially find a partner, otherwise, when I think about “dating/going on dates/using apps” I immediately think “…why?…why would I want to go on a meeting with a stranger?…for getting into a relationship?-do I really need it that badly?…not really…I mean, if I find someone I like - okay, but purposefully searching?-…meh. What about +18 thing?-I don’t care about it…and also people on apps mostly look for this +18 thing, and they would be rather disappointed if I say “I don’t do that, probably never will”…so that’s another reason not to date”, and I also need way too much time to even figure out if I would like you as a friend, I can’t really do that or more just after 1-3 meetings…and the internet says that im supposed to make up my mind in this short period of time😅…or even…*do stuff*…and I’m not comfortable with that
While I sometimes get lonely, especially when I look at cute couples being cute, and even get scared “what’s wrong with me? Im 22 and never even had my first kiss…”, most of the times - I don’t crave it much
And feels like my whole personality and preferences are against “casual/active dating”😅 So it’s either I just stumble upon someone as I go through life (which chances probably not that high), or I’ll just…be alone forever😂 and not much in between
I’m 24 and I’ve felt exactly the same. There’s nothing wrong with you or me. We know what we want it’s mostly other people who don’t know what they want. Just live life and you’ll bump into someone.
If you ever feel lonely. Want to make an online friend? We literally have nothing to lose.
broooo your comment and this video made me realize how normal I am :0 I thought for the longest that I was demiromantic or something but I think I just know what I want like the other commenter said, and that everyone else doesn't know what they're doing fr
As you are reading this response you casually stumble upon someone, thus continuing the cycle of chance encounters 😁
Hitting the nail right on the head here, couldn't have put it better myself. 23 and feel the exact same way.
"you knows whats worse than being alone? Dating" As someone on the aroace spectrum, but absolutely craves affection, fucking true
Same, like funny to be alone but also want affection at same times.
It sounds like you need that platonic love. Knowing that love isn't always about romance or sex, I'd say you should hang out with your friends and family more often or find more friends. 🤔😄
Friends is all we need
Mood. It's literally in my bio 'aroace' and yet I still keep getting matches with people who aren't compatible with the ace bit. No one reads. :(
@@FlyingStarsANIMATES wait why are you on dating apps then?
I’m the opposite. They get annoyed because I only ask questions about them and doesn’t share anything about myself 😭
I love asking new people "what they like to do for fun?"
I was able to make some new friends in college that way :)
Find out what the person likes and then get them to talk about it
People light up and are more engaged when talking about what they like; it makes the conversation more enjoyable for everyone involved honestly !
@@SultanSketches and then there's me who would rather die than talk about myself haha
@@SultanSketches exactly bro cause like i met this girl at my school and shes super shy but cute so like she didnt talk to me much until we found out we had the same interests yk yk
Every third time I ask this people say "nothing"
Idk if ur aware autism is a thing. These ppl took the how are u convo literally and didn't mean to not ask back. It's pretty ignorant to be like ,"how do u not know how a conversation works". Autism is a social disability and unless an autistic person is able to socialize enough to know hat, they will take it literally. It feels rather judgmental to be so upset over that. I get ur probably being dramatic, idk if u know it makes u looks snobby, lol. I'm a fan, just tryna point out u have no clue what autism is and just assumed stuff about random ppl. @@SultanSketches
1:51 it's crazy, like everyones so surprised when I ask back
I’m sorry but “if u can’t take a joke, get out of my swamp” is the BEST bio ever 🤣😭😭
I'm always afraid of anyone that says "If u can't take a joke" in any form. Bad experiences.
@@knowledge_leafame. It basically ends up being they expect you to take whatever shit from them that they want to throw at you and call a “joke”
I thought it was a self deprecating jab at lacking genitalia size.
@@knowledge_leafit was still kind of funny tho
@@wakpak4399 It was kinda of hilarious, I had tears and I was laughing so hard. The first part of the sentence gave me bad vibes, but the swamp part kinda made me think that this guy's idea of a joke is a dam good one
For people who hate dating so much you two have some good chemistry
Sultan has good chemistry with everyone 😅
@@Blazingle I absolutely hate that I can't just give a compliment to someone of the opposite gender without it seeming like flirting. Or be really good friends with someone without people thinking we're together. So I really appreciate this comment XD
he draws her laughing face so pretty
@@bananatheo3796 For men and women past puberty to be friends there has to be a certain level of attraction there, though usually there's something (or a lot) missing to go full relationship - this could arise later on or it could permanently be missing and the two just stay friends or drift apart. This is why OP has a point, but so do you.
Note: Technically, it should be 'human males and females' instead of 'men and women' - since passage into adulthood is required to qualify as a man or a woman, which isn't the same as hitting puberty, but this version sounds too clinical and thus I've stuck to the technically inaccurate terms that sound less like I'm some sort of alien.
@@DarkVeghetta okay and what about people becoming friends on the internet without even knowing each other's gender
OMG I'm not dreaming Sultan is back T^T King we welcome you
I am 1000% genuinely unsure why some people don't notice when they do this ??? If I've talked about myself for more than 30 seconds I start to ick myself (thank you I also chuckled when I did that 💀)
@@SultanSketches I feel the same way, I've been in a few toxic relationships if you can even call it that and it was just about them. Like how can you do that even if you are narcissistic ??? I don't understand
@@SultanSketches I personally feel that if you can't talk about yourself for at least 30 seconds, I can't learn enough about you.
I can understand being bugged by like a full 2 minutes of "I don't enjoy wearing makeup because it makes my skin all itchy", that's information I didn't really want, but like, I wanna hear someone talk for an extended period of time about something they're passionate about.
Ok... as someone who's NEVER dated but certainly had people ask them out and one very bad first date... I crave a relationship/date explained in this video! The only 1st date I've been on was really rushed, we went to a cafe and the guy talked ALL about himself and I just sat there waiting for a proper conversation. Ngl though, the other reason I've never dated throughout high school and now is because I feel like I'm scared of dating apps and also currently questioning my sexuality.
I'm so glad you pointed out how people only talk about themselves during dates. Some nuts told me (I'm a boy) to talk about myself a lot, but I want to know more about the girl too! I'm not trying to get a one night stand. I want a loving, romantic relationship! I want to know about the other girl, but here comes all of the women that say "wOmEn sHoUld NoT fEeL oBlIgAtEd To SpEaK wHeN asKeD a qUeSTiOn!" Like... is common human decency dead?
I'm happy to see you back! I hope you're feeling better ❤
What happend ?
sorry I was at the DMV
(thank you!)
@@SultanSketches every comment is a different excuse,
@@SultanSketches is ut true douh
Watching this, I'm thinking. "Yeah people can't talk on apps it's ridiculous"
Then
"Oh God these two just throw away dates like their worthless, maybe they're the problem too."
I think alot of people really do miss the opportunity to be themselves on a date, and if they took that chance, the date might be more fun.
i think its cute that you animated the laughs too it just gives so much character to the rest of the convo
Your art has evolved so much!! I love this video! Well done! xD
I adore your artstyle so much, I'd love if you made art tutorial videos or just a video about your drawing process, because your art style is like exactly the type of art style I want to have that it's insane
Thank you that’s very kind of you, I’ve been thinking about doing one for a long time so I maybe !!
I forget to ask "how are you" after being asked how i am sooo often, but that's due to me only thinking "don't overexplain, don't information dump, don't be annoying" and i forget it in the panic XD
Here he lies, a Great RUclipsr that won't be forgotten, his amazing storytelling pleases you even at the worst of your days, or at the best of it. Come back man, I'll wait years and decades if i have to. That's a promise.
Did he quit or smt?
bro came back with the milk but now has to go find out how many cows made that milk 💀
welcome back sultan
I’m starving Sultan😞 we miss you
It's always pleasing to hear those confident laughs that show how you really are. Love it.
Literally feel called out, "whats worse than being alone...dating.." YOU JUST SUMMED UP MY LIFE IN ONE SENTENCE
Do my eyes deceive me? A Sultan post?? 🏃🏽♀️🏃🏽♀️🏃🏽♀️
Edit: Wow I didn’t realize how much I missed Sultan’s videos until watching this
Me and you both
sorry I was in the shower
@@SultanSketches For 9 months? Must've been a good shower
He's been showering for 9 months. Yk gotta take your time
@@Milk-ck1wv Indeed.
As A Person with limited hearing:
Haha funny Mike Myers joke :)
Love your content, thank you for the accessibility
Love all the Persona references! Wish dating was as easy in real life as it is in the games.
watching this as a freshly minted 18 year old makes me never wanna download dating apps or try dating ever. Maybe good ol' mom can give me marriage candidate pamphlets.
Best of luck, you'll need it
Reading sultans dating app name I thought it said slut instead of sult
Either way I think that would be accurate and I mean that in the most positive way possible
If I had a dollar every time someone messaged me this exact thing on dating apps, I'd have quite few dollars
"No offence but slut is an accurate description of you"
Bro you made me go back and reread. I didn’t realize it said Sult and not the other one.
why would anyone pass the slut across the table ifheoiuhfowfh
I think the question "How was your day" has the potential to reveal a lot about a person.
For example: do they focus on good or bad things? Do they complain about or praise certain people? (If so: whats their relationship with them)
Or simply: how much are they willing to share with you? There is a big difference between "work was rough" and "I messed up some stuff and got scolded for it"
Or "my day was great" and "I got to see cute puppies in the park" (though that could also be a follow up)
While I agree with that, it's very easy to shorten your view on things when texting. In person, you see everything in real time (glances, fidgets, stutters, etc.) while you can be aloof in messages. You can't edit yourself or delete things you've said irl. Even if they want to share a lot, it's assumed that putting in effort like that looks desperate, so many don't elaborate in order to feel "above it all".
Or just "It was ok" or "Good" answer most of the time
No lol, one of the first questions I ask people when dating is something like "what's your greatest fear?" or "Idea date" or something like that lmao
These are good questions 👏👏
@@SultanSketches ikr, anyways, I hope your day is going well, mine is cause I'm making it my own self care sunday but on a Saturday lol. (Translation: I'm wearing a pretty dress cause the serotonin demands it lol)
9:04 This note should have been a full screen disclaimer at the start of the video. I mean, up to this point I was thinking that clearly you had bad experiences dating because you seemed to think dating is such a shallow thing, but now that I see this note, now it makes so much sense. Though, personally, I will absolutely flat out ask people to tell me what they are passionate about or some other thought provoking question, and I do this LONG before I figure out if we are compatible or not. Like, "What are you passionate about?" is an early first conversation question for me.
Let's f go, finally the return! ❤ Love your content, and of course the art specially, but these convos always give thought food
Ironic cause ain't a thought behind my eyes my guy
(thanks Zino ! :) )
14mins of Sultan being such a RED FLAG ❤ but I love the colour red oop
As someone who's never been on a date before, you've convinced me to never start
See, problem is, I get so lost trying to answer a question like "How are you?" that by the time I'm done answering, I forget to ask it back.
I've also just assumed that if someone wants to talk, they'll just talk, and I don't need to ask much. That's always how I've been, I often share bits about my life to relate to people in conversation, and I've always assumed that's how Other people are.
I guess I just hang out with neurodivergent people like myself a lot, cause all my interactions with people that I didn't get bored of, were interactions where I shared something about me, and then the person shared something about them, I didn't have to ask anything, because what Am I supposed to ask? "Do you have a similar experience you can share?"
I Want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but if I just talked about how I've been to this cute cat cafe the next city over, it's hard to come up with a question that both fits what I just said that may even applies to the person I'm talking to, like;
"Do you like cats?" "No" "Ah, ok. Why not?" "Never have, just not interested" "Ah."
Or should I ask; "Have you ever been to a cat cafe?" "No" "Ah ok."
Those things don't even apply to the person, seeing as they don't like cats
So instead I wait for Them to share something that's Actually relevent to them.
Cause if you are just asking questions, you go through various questions that don't interest the person, and they're obligated to answer instead of talking about what they ACTUALLY wanna talk about.
Whereas if you're just talking about what you want to talk about, instead of answering random boring questions, and you both do that, you can have a flow of conversation, or so I've experienced.
I guess I understand if people don't wanna talk about themselves, to me that feels like you are too afraid to try to make a connection, which I get, but it just feels so hard to talk to someone that is unwilling to talk about themselves, cause I don't get to know the person.
sultan, i love the simple art style and your conversation like videos just make me so fking happy, please focus more on making more conversations then on making good animation, cuz you are so fking interesting everything you say can become a video.
Ngl this video was very helpful for me to analyze how "normal" people conversate. will definitely keep in mind bc its so hard for me lmao
i do understand that there should ge give and take, and an actual back and forth dialog, but... Dating is literally an interview.... its literally an interview to see how well you 2 can get along, but its an interview for both not just one. so reciprocation is better to be done in action rather then hearing their answer then being like "I also like these things, we will get along fine" in your head, because then in realty you just sit there in silence with the other guy going "Wtf?!"
I love all the Soul Eater characters in this vid, Sultan with the Crona expression is amazing.
If it wasn’t for experience, I wouldn’t believe that most people are that bad at conversations! I’ve always felt bad about pelleting my friends with questions for the sake of the conversation, but after watching this video I’ve realized my friends are just bad at communicating.
2:45 This is very true. Not a lot of people point out the flaws in other people's conversations. Mostly because of how "terrible" a person you are when you hurt someone else's "feelings".
But it also doesn't help that we have so many parents who either got lucky when ending up with someone, unlucky when ending up with someone, or failed to teacher their kid how to date because they were both too busy working their jobs with school becoming most of their life's experience. And its not hard to believe that some people would rather keep that knowledge a secret because they don't want to "check" if the friend THEY walked up to even knows how to start a conversation.
And yes, I speak from experience. To the point Sultan telling us what "give and take" means in this video is the first time I've ever heard it (and I know I talk about myself too much because I've read my own messages in chat rooms but have no other room or experience to guide the conversation anywhere else)
And yes, online dating has made that worse despite how low the bar of entry is.
The one good thing about dating is that if it goes horribly, you get a good story out of it👍
I’ve been in 5 relationships and way more dates than I care to try and remember in my 23 years and I’ve only met one of the 5 (my first gf) anywhere other than a dating app. There’s literally no other way to meet people these days. If you’re working, you don’t wanna be bothered. If you’re at the gym, you don’t want to be bothered. If you’re grocery shopping, same thing. Maybe you have a friend who might be cool but why risk ruining a solid friendship? Dating apps are the only way to really talk and also know full well that the other person is (probably) also looking for a partner
"Don't dip your pen in company ink" is a saying for a reason, if a relationship with a coworker doesn't work out and ends badly you've got to put up with the aftermath at work
Gym's are either a really good place to meet people or the worst place and there's no inbetween and that's just meeting people in general nvm anyone you'd consider dating
Can't think of anyone I've ever met at a store who wasn't with someone I already knew or knew the person I was with
Only place to meet people naturally once you graduate highschool is college tbh
That's so...sad...worst kind of tech dystopia.
@@user-lv8dn8gw9zTbf coworkers only matter if the place can actually keep its workers for more than a couple of months
@@tvsonicserbia5140 not really. People are working. DOn't distrube them
yall just flaming Sora like that at 5:43
yoOOO IS THAT A BEAT FROM TWEWY my jaw DROPPED it’s so rare finding people who know twewy and appreciate it
AYYY A MAN OF CULTURE LETS GO
I was looking for a comment that pointed it out omg yes!
IM FINDING MY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMENT SECTION omg
It’s been 4 years since I’ve seen your vids I’m so happy to finally see you again I hope you post again one day
One of my friends used "Not sick, Just twisted, sick makes it seems like a cure"
The man the myth the legend has returned once again for a video it's good to see you're making videos again 💜
I am literally not a social person and I know that’s how conversations work seriously I did not know people out there were like that
Sultan videos are rare these days but when they drop😌 im happy
8:57 the gumball and phiona reference😭🤣
5:48 my mans just cussing poor sora
So funny how yall be like "Can't name a single good thing about dating" and i'm over here like "i mean, i'd imagine it'd help heal my chronic loneliness a bit, probably, right?"
Nope nope nope nope nope, if anything, you go on one good date and then they proceed to not go forward with you and it's like "okay, didn't hurt at all 🙃"
Bro you good? Legit question
I forgot just how pretty you draw everyone. I'm watching this and something about how their smiles look crazed just gets me. Like I'm rewatching to look at the facial expressions.
on the milk thing, cows tend to eat a mixture of different plants grass is in there but so is clover and most other green plants, secondarily there is actually differences in milk for example irish milk is known to be very good, whereas european milks tend to be more chalky particularly french milk, contributing factors do include whether the cow is allowed to just graze or is kept inside all the time and fed hay and other dried animal feed, also it depends on the milk production because depending on where you get your milk the milk can be god in the fridge for two weeks ish, or it can be like the horrors of french milk and just shelved and left until you open it, the pasturzation of french mil kills all the bacteria but also gives it a deeply unpleasant taste like someone snuck a tablespoon of chalk into your milk
I suppose it’s nearly a million now,
just around the corner. But what will change? Nothing, really. He’ll remain the same cherished person we all adore. Thank you
The chaotic energy in this is quite strong
A few other youtubers who've been gone for 1+ years have returned. I hope you do too
Unrelated to dating, but the stylization of the middle finger and the ring finger together at 1:58 is scRUMPTIOUS.
This video is my anxiety with dating concentrated into a 14 minute video
I appreciate all the Soul Eater references.
Honestly this video taught me the concept of give and take. Thanks for being so blunt about how a conversation works for my introverted ass. I'm equally as embarrassed as I am grateful 💀
damn this video made me feel validated - dating is the worst
pls im begging u, post again! I miss this level of peak
Well... somehow this was the most comprehensible dating tutorial I have ever seen.
i haven't watched your videos in years and this one came up in my recommended. I was honestly in shock seeing how much your art improved its insane. keep it up man
Dude, I've been waiting so long for him to post a video again
Ive been in online dating for like 2 years at this point, and even though a few relationships came out of that, theres literally so many conversations that were just a few sentences that i don't remember at all. People i matched with, exchanged a few words and stopped talking to either because they weren't my type or an enormous number of people that either say hi and dont respond after i say it back, dont respond to a startup message like wyd, how was your day, etc, or those that do respond to it with just like "Im fine." or "It was ok" AND ITS SO GODDAMN ANNOYING.
i swear im so tired of it all i have no more energy for random internet people. Kinda been taking a break for a few months though more recently ive had the most luck with just meeting random people irl (bars and parties) or literally just through friends. That way theyre already vetted and probably cool and somewhat similar in vibes, its going so well.
My GF(now wife) is the best dating app conversator I ever met. A simple first conversation talk started everything, and I'm really thankfull for the way she answered. It was casual, but clever and smooth at the same time.
Me: Hi, how are you today?
Her: Pretty good, thanks! I just had a cup off coffee. Do you like coffee too?
Me: not sure. I'm usually drinking tea, so I don't really know if I like coffee or not
Her: oh...we can always grab some together and see what will suit your taste 😘
And then we talked more, hanged out, every conversation was just 💫gold💫, we visited every café in the area. Sadly my Coffee Freak is on koffeine ban due to expecting a baby. The first thing I'll do, after the delivery, is I'll take her to drink some coffee
haha funny mike muera joke :)
Also, I love how Sultan does people laughing. They always look like they are laughing out of their stomach
This video is so correct, this doesn't even just apply to dating, but to making friends too. There are so many people who come up to me and be like " I'm so lonely, can you be my friend? 🥺" and then proceed to barely give me any response. Like I'll ask about them and most of the time they give me a very lackluster answer and sometimes not give anything back. Like c'mon people, friendship isn't something you just collect, you need to put in the effort or otherwise I'm going to stop talking to you.
Simultaneously talking about bad chemistry while exhibiting good chemistry. Amazing.
I love listening to your conversations with friends, always so fun. Also, love the way you draw faces!
As someone who loves the idea of relationships, but never has and wont for the forseeable future (prob aro) all this stuff seems wild to me. It's very interesting.
And he disappeared again sultan are you okay
I really enjoy listening to unhinged rambles with, the art in your videos that's great and expressive.
Oh man the conversation thing huuurts to listen to. As someone with autism this is one of those things I had to learn and it's still kinda awkward for me, but at the same time when someone doesn't pass the question back to me I fully get what you're saying. Fucking autism is hard man lol. But I feel called out even though I don't do this, agh.
I think I get some fun responses out of people when I ask them to tell me one thing they will never tell their parents.
Kelly and Sultan. Agreeing on what they want in a partner, get along/understand each other, but aren't partners. Quite the friendship they have.
you two are so effortlessly funny like
i have been in genuinely the worst stage of my life the last two months. grieving a 3 yr relationship ending after not being single for like 7-8 years, no friends at all, having to live alone for the first time ever and struggling astronomically, complete isolation and just so much more.. and this video was 14 minutes of no weight on my mind and shoulders. no nasty voices in my head and not thinking about my chronic physical pain. just 14 minutes i never wanted to end, even though my face was sore n tired from smiling the entirety of the video???
i am a new watcher, this was in my recommended and i normally never leave my youtube 'comfort zone' and i never watch videos longer than like 5 minutes cause i havent experienced any ✨dopamine release✨ from videos in a *VERY* long time and only watch them as a weird all-day routine until my ass hurts from sitting at my pc and i take meds and sleep zzz.. but i had a pull to check this out and i mean, i havent felt much if any emotion from content in so long, but this had me hooked and smiling!! i even laughed for once!!!
anywho, instant subscribe, and time to binge ur other content... thank you sultan. from the bottom of my heart.. thank you
I pray you fine peace!
what happened to him? 😭 he appears for a second and disappears for a year
- “Hey! What’s up?”
- “Nm, what’s a childhood trauma you have?”
- “….”
You have the most contagious laughs I am so glad I stumbled upon this
13:07 I absolutely lost it at this
I should say something about this... ahem. Yes, many people are not able to hold a conversation, but always remember that some may not want to hold a conversation.
I could sit here and just admire sultan’s art style for hours lol
As someone who is 21 and is super shy, I’ll just straight up make whale noises and hope she does the same
Dang! I got to give that a try!
the brute force strat, i like it. cutting straight to the chase
Taking about the day is overpowered. It is an easy ask someone to get in there lives without breaking any strong boundaries. They will only tell you what they seem appropriat, so you can ask questions without making them feel pressured.
Like:
Q: How was your day?
A: it was fine
Q:What did you do?
A: I walked the dog/Watched a movie/ trained etc.
Then you can ask about the activity and hobbies that make the persons life and get to know them.
Also you allready have three replies and the sunken cost fallacie kicks in.
It is not that hard to get and hold a conversation on these apps but it is really exhausting
Wheres he gone guys