It's amazing how timeless philosophy really is. The dressing of the times may change, but the core of what we are, what we yearn for and what we aspire to become never really does.
What a delightfully positive and respectful comment section on this video. Browsing the comment section on RUclips can be a damned minefield for your estimation of humanity at times. Faith = restored Thanks all.
Us moderns like to fashion ourselves living in a more sophisticate time than the ancients of 2000 years ago. Reading gems like these casts such assumptions into serious doubt. How much more to the core of the matter of life is this than todays endless distractions?
Altogether a worthwhile hearing. Have been myself a student of all Asian religion--philosophies and found he kinda distorts aspects of these. Not a major criticism as almost inevitable given scope and complexity. This said, as always first read the original (!!!) then commentaries. Read first ChuangTzu is "enlightening" if one has head-heart to meet him.
Yeah. Can't say you're wrong. However, it always help to know the back-story, such as in what kind of world the man lived in, what kind of values was prevalent in the society at the time, etc., etc., and so on - to better understand not only the man himself, but also his thinking. Of course - if that's not what you're interested in, at all, by all means start at 40:30. Greetings from Sweden! ;-)
One cannot use the word "God" in Chuang Zhou's philosophy. Unfortunately, Christian missionaries were the first translators from the West to translate the Chinese language.
@@MaryDunford That would not be my own translation ; this will take a team of dedicated people who master several different (and connecting) fields of expertise. Not just linguistics, but philosphy, religion, history, (cultural) anthropology, anthroposophy, sociology, filology, and I'm sure I left some disciplines out of this humble list. Just as my comment was only an humble observation of a grandious mis-take about a magestic work. There was no (Christian) God in Chuang Zhou's time. And where God is portrayed as an individual entity, the Universal Life Force has neither name nor personality because everything expresses the Dao by simply being (...). I hope that your response is an equally humble suggestion and not a defense (of an interpretation of an interpretation - you are aware of what happens to the source of the stories about its source, I may hope ?) The lockdown period might have been a great opportunity to start a gigantic entreprise like you suggested. Honestly, how many people might benefit from it ? Especially now we're heading for Confusianism. But wait, this opens another motivation -but how can we reach a majority that consists of pinball brains who cannot take the time to read millennia-old masterpieces that are nowadays used for commercial purposes : you're not cool if you don't meditate and every big ENTERprise has a "zen hour" and wu-wei has found, indeed seemingly effortlessits way into the (Chinese) telephone business (Huawei). And who knows : maybe Chuang Zhou becomes the real Goldstein after 1984 - he created the fictional dialogue between Lao Zhou and Confucius after all I'm sorry, we Chinese and alike tend to get caught by epistemology (a discipline I forgot in my humble list). Thank you for your comment on my comment.
Hi, thanks for this. @ 23:10, the reader repeats the previous statement from 23:00. It doesn’t sound intentional, ‘slipped through the editing process, I guess... -Just a ‘heads up’, no disrespect. ~Peace~
Hi..Thanks for the "heads up". That's down to me I'm sorry. I wish I could say that I'd left it that way to check that you were really listening! It's a wonderful work I hope you enjoyed it regardless. Best wishes and thanks!
Yes, thoroughly enjoyed, and the “Butterfly Dream” section took my mind back 30+ years to a particular conversation with a new friend. Thanks again, for a ‘nearly’ flawless presentation. ✨
Your reading is terrific, and thank you for giving us an important audio book. The author has a very logical approach to deconstructing Zhuang Tzu. But… he misses the meaning entirely. By not having any personal experience of the metaphysical he can only look at Zhuang Tzu”s teaching from the outside.
If you're talking about samadhi : no experience is the same. Not even for the same person. I dare state that every day (or every second) is a "metaphysical" experience.
Thank you so much! I am glad for your insight and that this audio is shared here. In reading it I remember having unease at missing a true meaning of things and also that some things would be lost in translation but just did my best to convey whatever I could
So...what if the "soul" is imprisoned in the body. And "life," because of the "mind," is used to give us an illusion of...something happening. It is imprisoned in a realm away from home.
All places are home. That is part of the minds trap. To think we are not already there through churning illusion that come from the interaction of soul and physical
Optus i dont stutter i explain my self well enough but your male receptionists are unable to listen to a request on purpose i believe he helped me in making my way away unwelcoming
Thank you so very much for making this available to all of us..... But, it would have been so much better, so so much better, if you had not used (translated) the word god just because that word has gathered so much load in so many people;s minds in so many different ways. LaoTzu or Chuang Tzu really NEVER used or meant it that way. Listen! A Way is just that, A way!!!!! Law is just that, Law.Why bring god in there??????
There's an idea there, in Daoism, that axiomatic or prescriptive morality is on a wrong path. In between doubt, in between the affirmation and negation, like a one winged bird, the human sees the sky and clouds better. We need to go beyond the goodness of God, as a statement, sounded like the hesychastic monk who said he who has grasped God doesn't know God.
@@taotwist and read literally every translation you can find. I’ve found like 30 at east so far and some mail certain chapters and miss certain. Some elucidate certain chapters or lines I thought I had a grasp of. It’s great :)
This guy is full of himself, did he really write a story in section 3 about a fictional someone groveling before him to say he was right about everything and he was a fool for doubting his philosophy?
Community members industry concious money men the only way is a iron foundry a mould you need too form there is a order of conveying conformity how is it the low cast shit on the head
It's amazing how timeless philosophy really is. The dressing of the times may change, but the core of what we are, what we yearn for and what we aspire to become never really does.
@Aden Kaiser corruption will cost dearly
@Aden Kaiser why?
Some of it is, some of it falls on its face in record time. If you had said "this philosophy" I would tend to agree without reservations.
From what you have stated, I denote that you learned nothing from the book.
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Great video. Zhuangzi is my favourite Chinese philosopher.
Zhuangzi = fascinating
This... I can't believe this got published.
We are the harmony, and it is timeless, it is what many call "God", "nature", etc. 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🙏
What a delightfully positive and respectful comment section on this video. Browsing the comment section on RUclips can be a damned minefield for your estimation of humanity at times.
Faith = restored
Thanks all.
Thank you for visiting and for sharing your own positivity in this section of the video.
Cool fresh water.
I love me some Taoist writings…no other books communicate “no mind” so effortlessly
Not “no mind”. Empty mind. Clear mind.
@@williamthomas8114 Same thing. Different names
Us moderns like to fashion ourselves living in a more sophisticate time than the ancients of 2000 years ago. Reading gems like these casts such assumptions into serious doubt. How much more to the core of the matter of life is this than todays endless distractions?
Knowledge increases alongside our "advances" much to the misfortune of man
Thank you so much. This book just changed the way I see everything.
You're welcome. Thank you for visiting.
Loved this video! Wonderful to hear the comparisons of Lao Tzu and Zhuangzhi
I'm so glad. Thank you for taking the time to let me know.
Thank you for this book my brother!
My pleasure. Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Altogether a worthwhile hearing. Have been myself a student of all Asian religion--philosophies and found he kinda distorts aspects of these. Not a major criticism as almost inevitable given scope and complexity. This said, as always first read the original (!!!) then commentaries. Read first ChuangTzu is "enlightening" if one has head-heart to meet him.
非常感谢！道德经是一部不朽之作
Beautifully read. Thank you! 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
I love to hear Randy Macho Man Savage read this book
This is very good and I thank you! It's well worth the listening time.
Thanks for listening. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The start
40:30
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@@blue_sky_motivation Yup btw if you can change the commas to a colon and then they will be able to jump without manually changing it fyi
@@plederfagella9774 Appreciate your time and direction 👍
@@blue_sky_motivation np
Yeah. Can't say you're wrong. However, it always help to know the back-story, such as in what kind of world the man lived in, what kind of values was prevalent in the society at the time, etc., etc., and so on - to better understand not only the man himself, but also his thinking.
Of course - if that's not what you're interested in, at all, by all means start at 40:30.
Greetings from Sweden! ;-)
HungVanHua=space be my body and time be my mind. I speak here but hear me there, I look here but see there.
I AM HERE.
Fantastic!!
Glad you think so! Thank you.
BLESSINGS MY FAMILY
If everyone started to question the dogma, the world will not be in such miserable state with mass extinction everywhere.
0:34 reaction *against* the multiplication of laws, growth of luxury, etc
1:00 damn rules of outward conduct
Over 30 mins in and it’s more like a book review
It's called an "Introduction" 😅
I am enjoying this enormously
But there are more adverts than commercial television
This seems to go against the Tao😢
One cannot use the word "God" in Chuang Zhou's philosophy. Unfortunately, Christian missionaries were the first translators from the West to translate the Chinese language.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@MaryDunford That would not be my own translation ; this will take a team of dedicated people who master several different (and connecting) fields of expertise. Not just linguistics, but philosphy, religion, history, (cultural) anthropology, anthroposophy, sociology, filology, and I'm sure I left some disciplines out of this humble list.
Just as my comment was only an humble observation of a grandious mis-take about a magestic work. There was no (Christian) God in Chuang Zhou's time. And where God is portrayed as an individual entity, the Universal Life Force has neither name nor personality because everything expresses the Dao by simply being (...).
I hope that your response is an equally humble suggestion and not a defense (of an interpretation of an interpretation - you are aware of what happens to the source of the stories about its source, I may hope ?)
The lockdown period might have been a great opportunity to start a gigantic entreprise like you suggested. Honestly, how many people might benefit from it ? Especially now we're heading for Confusianism. But wait, this opens another motivation -but how can we reach a majority that consists of pinball brains who cannot take the time to read millennia-old masterpieces that are nowadays used for commercial purposes : you're not cool if you don't meditate and every big ENTERprise has a "zen hour" and wu-wei has found, indeed seemingly effortlessits way into the (Chinese) telephone business (Huawei).
And who knows : maybe Chuang Zhou becomes the real Goldstein after 1984 - he created the fictional dialogue between Lao Zhou and Confucius after all
I'm sorry, we Chinese and alike tend to get caught by epistemology (a discipline I forgot in my humble list).
Thank you for your comment on my comment.
@@Kyle_Warweave shut up
Watts is an excellent teacher
@@adkrella2692 watts was a drunk
Hi, thanks for this.
@ 23:10, the reader repeats the previous statement from 23:00. It doesn’t sound intentional, ‘slipped through the editing process, I guess...
-Just a ‘heads up’, no disrespect.
~Peace~
Hi..Thanks for the "heads up". That's down to me I'm sorry. I wish I could say that I'd left it that way to check that you were really listening! It's a wonderful work I hope you enjoyed it regardless. Best wishes and thanks!
Yes, thoroughly enjoyed, and the “Butterfly Dream” section took my mind back 30+ years to a particular conversation with a new friend.
Thanks again, for a ‘nearly’ flawless presentation. ✨
Great catch! (glitch in the matrix, haha) Something both I and the proof-listener missed. I shall go back and check the original
🙏🌺🌸🌷♥️ Every human beings need food for the soul to guide our conduct, to purify our heart and mind
I want a movie about this dude.
Your reading is terrific, and thank you for giving us an important audio book. The author has a very logical approach to deconstructing Zhuang Tzu. But… he misses the meaning entirely. By not having any personal experience of the metaphysical he can only look at Zhuang Tzu”s teaching from the outside.
I am interested in what made this impression? Maybe I have been inattentive, but this sounded like a very straight-forward translation to me.
If you're talking about samadhi : no experience is the same. Not even for the same person. I dare state that every day (or every second) is a "metaphysical" experience.
Thank you so much! I am glad for your insight and that this audio is shared here. In reading it I remember having unease at missing a true meaning of things and also that some things would be lost in translation but just did my best to convey whatever I could
So...what if the "soul" is imprisoned in the body. And "life," because of the "mind," is used to give us an illusion of...something happening. It is imprisoned in a realm away from home.
All places are home. That is part of the minds trap. To think we are not already there through churning illusion that come from the interaction of soul and physical
@@Tarotainment soul and physical are one and the same. The farther you zoom in, it’s all the same, baby
Optus i dont stutter i explain my self well enough but your male receptionists are unable to listen to a request on purpose i believe he helped me in making my way away unwelcoming
Wisdom, charity, duty to ones neighbor as being opposed to god. Then...should not the opposite be "true" also?
the reason the old gnarly tree lives such a long life
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1:40:00 Fatih Sultan Mehmet carried the boats over land to occupy Istanbul
A lot of the criticisms in the comments are at odds with the dao
Thank you so very much for making this available to all of us..... But, it would have been so much better, so so much better, if you had not used (translated) the word god just because that word has gathered so much load in so many people;s minds in so many different ways. LaoTzu or Chuang Tzu really NEVER used or meant it that way. Listen! A Way is just that, A way!!!!! Law is just that, Law.Why bring god in there??????
Thank you for visiting and taking the time to comment. I understand and respect your point.
@@blue_sky_motivation 🙏thank your for taking the time to reply. 🙏
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yeah pisses me off.
use dao
10/21 good one
Waaayyyyyy to many adds for a video such as this.
40:31 start of book/chapter 3
There's an idea there, in Daoism, that axiomatic or prescriptive morality is on a wrong path. In between doubt, in between the affirmation and negation, like a one winged bird, the human sees the sky and clouds better. We need to go beyond the goodness of God, as a statement, sounded like the hesychastic monk who said he who has grasped God doesn't know God.
21:50 II
Yes so much flux...that's y they narrow it down as some contradictions...because they don't understand..as what depends
40:29 section 3
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I must have read a different book
When you read or hear actual philosophy, abrahamic religious texts look like political manifestos.
Haha yeah, they are.
@33:30 beautiful
40:15 3
56:46 section 5
55:00
This is a clinical study done by an American & says nothing about the true essence of the Chinese philosophy within Tao .. 🔴
What is your recommendations to learn about the true essence of the Chinese philosophy within Tao?
@@michellejimenez659 read the source material, starting with Tao Te Ching. You can read a page a day, it's not very long. Zhuangzi is the second text.
@@michellejimenez659 eliminate binary thinking
@@taotwist Lao tzu might of not even existed but this guy Is accountable the was a tzu to
@@taotwist and read literally every translation you can find. I’ve found like 30 at east so far and some mail certain chapters and miss certain. Some elucidate certain chapters or lines I thought I had a grasp of. It’s great :)
This guy is full of himself, did he really write a story in section 3 about a fictional someone groveling before him to say he was right about everything and he was a fool for doubting his philosophy?
Optus if you dont value me money end the contract take back your product i ll pay the difference jb hifi and aldi im good
Community members industry concious money men the only way is a iron foundry a mould you need too form there is a order of conveying conformity how is it the low cast shit on the head
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Ssso Love this Guy.
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