V - Vent the windows to release the interior pressure which will introduce fresh air into the burning building to allow the fire to grow. E - Enter a smoke filled, unfamiliar structure while the fresh air accelerates the fire. S - Search on your hands and knees to maybe find a victim before the accelerating fire drives you back out. Now compare that to this common sense and logical approach. V - Vent the fire room windows. E - Extinguish all Visible Burning Material in and outside the structure. V - Vent additional windows to remove heat, smoke and water vapor. E - Enter with a charged line to further cool the space while you search and remove the victims you just protected.
Bro are you mentally ill? This takes all of two minutes at most if you are NOT a mouth breathing vollentard hobbyist that doesn't understand how to do a basic primary search with a TIC and isolating a room. This is not the movies and you don't enter an actively involved room without water. Fire rolling over the door frame because of the flow path is not the same thing. Cooling a space doesn't do shit for CO, which is going to kill you well before you cook off from superheated gases. You know what water and venting doesn't do? Reverse the saturation of CO in you blood. It requires oxygen and in extremes cases, hyperbaric chamber treatment. You know what water and venting does for superheated gas burns to the airway? Nothing, unless you wanted the steamed lobster. It needs intubation before the angioedema seals the airway and requires a cricothyrotomy to reestablish to intervene on hypoxic brain injury and lactic acidosis. It's easy and fast. You're supposed to be fast and efficient in search and rescue because you're likely going to be doing one room and window right after another. Did you hear room? Like a bedroom? You know, those things that have to have two means of egress by code? You're not searching a living room, but I can see someone incompetent not being able to read a building and dumping into one. A large bonus room at best. If a handline is involved in VES, or VEIS for those who can't remember simple things, they had better be inside of the structure attempting to cut off and extinguish the fire before one makes it way to a ladder and window on your primary search. Everyone wants to be a firefighter until it's time to do firefighter shiet.
@@jeffcivjeep7 Not one word about firefighting. Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo deflection. Dropping phrases here and there with no game plan at all. That's ok, you lost me with Bro anyway.
Did you put a stopwatch on all this? If you just put the fire out with tank water Long before all this stuff could happen, you could just walk in the front door, cool as you went, find the victim and carry them out the front door. If you do all this without extinguishing the fire, the victims will die, and your firefighters will be pushed back. Tell me where and how I am wrong instead of blocking me.
It is usually happening at the same time as fire attack, but even if it isn't, you could preform a VES in less than 5 minutes, depending on the size of the victim. It would take upwards of 30 minutes or, even a lot longer depending on the size of the incident, to make the entire structure livable space for anyone not wearing an SCBA. You are very wrong.
@@baptistedelannoy3943 Nope, I'm rarely wrong with my comments because I Think before I type And, I explain my tactics People just don't understand my comments because They, don't think. You can stop combustion of your average residential fire Long before a team can even get the door open. It rarely ever happens because USA firefighters don't even try and don't have it in their plans. It's always the Hero crap first and all they end up doing is Threatening the victims And themselves. Try Thinking about that instead of JUST,telling me I'm wrong. P.S. Go to my FDNY Firefighting Bad playlist and look at the first video. Tell me where they coordinated anything or even gave a damn about their own burning "Brother" let alone the dying victim.
Great video
U guys are heros I believe it
thank u super heros are very real and u my good human are 1
Yes I tried doing this in dark I was in a tunnel I went crazy I couldn't breathe I could not do job I would loose it
What's a fire side
Vent, Enter,Isolate and search
Firemen can only remember 3 things VES, controlling the door has always been a part of it
@@somma4697 😄
V - Vent the windows to release the interior pressure which will introduce fresh air into the burning building to allow the fire to grow.
E - Enter a smoke filled, unfamiliar structure while the fresh air accelerates the fire.
S - Search on your hands and knees to maybe find a victim before the accelerating fire drives you back out.
Now compare that to this common sense and logical approach.
V - Vent the fire room windows.
E - Extinguish all Visible Burning Material in and outside the structure.
V - Vent additional windows to remove heat, smoke and water vapor.
E - Enter with a charged line to further cool the space while you search and remove the victims you just protected.
Bro are you mentally ill? This takes all of two minutes at most if you are NOT a mouth breathing vollentard hobbyist that doesn't understand how to do a basic primary search with a TIC and isolating a room. This is not the movies and you don't enter an actively involved room without water. Fire rolling over the door frame because of the flow path is not the same thing. Cooling a space doesn't do shit for CO, which is going to kill you well before you cook off from superheated gases. You know what water and venting doesn't do? Reverse the saturation of CO in you blood. It requires oxygen and in extremes cases, hyperbaric chamber treatment. You know what water and venting does for superheated gas burns to the airway? Nothing, unless you wanted the steamed lobster. It needs intubation before the angioedema seals the airway and requires a cricothyrotomy to reestablish to intervene on hypoxic brain injury and lactic acidosis. It's easy and fast. You're supposed to be fast and efficient in search and rescue because you're likely going to be doing one room and window right after another. Did you hear room? Like a bedroom? You know, those things that have to have two means of egress by code? You're not searching a living room, but I can see someone incompetent not being able to read a building and dumping into one. A large bonus room at best. If a handline is involved in VES, or VEIS for those who can't remember simple things, they had better be inside of the structure attempting to cut off and extinguish the fire before one makes it way to a ladder and window on your primary search. Everyone wants to be a firefighter until it's time to do firefighter shiet.
@@jeffcivjeep7 Not one word about firefighting. Just a bunch of mumbo jumbo deflection. Dropping phrases here and there with no game plan at all. That's ok, you lost me with Bro anyway.
Did you put a stopwatch on all this? If you just put the fire out with tank water Long before all this stuff could happen, you could just walk in the front door, cool as you went, find the victim and carry them out the front door. If you do all this without extinguishing the fire, the victims will die, and your firefighters will be pushed back. Tell me where and how I am wrong instead of blocking me.
hahaha
@@mja3051 Nope, that didn't do it.
It is usually happening at the same time as fire attack, but even if it isn't, you could preform a VES in less than 5 minutes, depending on the size of the victim. It would take upwards of 30 minutes or, even a lot longer depending on the size of the incident, to make the entire structure livable space for anyone not wearing an SCBA. You are very wrong.
@@baptistedelannoy3943 Nope, I'm rarely wrong with my comments because I Think before I type And, I explain my tactics People just don't understand my comments because They, don't think. You can stop combustion of your average residential fire Long before a team can even get the door open. It rarely ever happens because USA firefighters don't even try and don't have it in their plans. It's always the Hero crap first and all they end up doing is Threatening the victims And themselves. Try Thinking about that instead of JUST,telling me I'm wrong.
P.S. Go to my FDNY Firefighting Bad playlist and look at the first video. Tell me where they coordinated anything or even gave a damn about their own burning "Brother" let alone the dying victim.
@@JB91710 Please do enlighten us. I started in the fire service as a total 'green-horn' 2 years ago. I'm always looking for ways to improve.