First time seeing the 22 at an airshow was mind blowing. The 22 went straight up, stalled out, did a complete backflip and once it became horizontal, literally turned 180° on a dime and took off again. So glad it's on our team.
Which is why if we ever decided to stop playing nice the Russian air force would be grounded by lunch and the Chinese by late afternoon. The North Korean's... Yeah they wouldn't even try they would just un-alive themselves to save the 22 the time.
Never got to see one fly but I remember going to an airshow in 2002-3 when I was young and still remember the awesome gold coating on the cockpit, I’ve seen f16 and f18s at Fallon naval air base and the f16s dog fighting capabilities are incredible we watched training exercises between f16s and even mig 21s go up against f18s and the experienced guys really showed what those f-16s could do f18 has the power but f16 excels at low altitude
@@StudleyDuderight No the term "worried" is not used loosely. The- F-35 is the only jet that can compete with the F-22, especially BVR. It uses the same weapons and has far better sensors. Sensors are what matter in the BVR game.
@@dat581 "Fat Amy" only has a moderate chance against a Raptor in BVR but doesn't have a fucking prayer in a dogfight. That's because "Fat Amy" was not purpose-built for killing other aircraft like the F-22 was. It's not a bad airframe, but it just isn't on the same level. Worried? Nah. I'd say more like mildly concerned.
@@StudleyDuderight So you don't actually have a clue about the performance of the F-22, F-35 or any of their sensors? And yes the F-35 was designed to kill other fighters first and foremost. If you knew anything about fighter design you would know that but clearly you don't.
Crazy fact: In the book "Skunk Works", the story of how we developed stealth tech is told, and it literally cam from a paper that the Russians looked at and said, "It ain't possible." Meanwhile, Lockheed looked at the paper, and made the F117A happen. Any time someone tells you the Russians have a tech edge, understand they wouldn't know what to do with that edge IF they in fact had it.
Except in rocketry, where they were decades ahead. N-1 failed because it was a political rush job. Staged cycle, liquid fueled rocket engines where the pre-burner was OX rich is something no one else thought possible...until after the fall of soviet empire they bought those engines. Almost all engineers though the russians and ukrainians were lying. NK-33, RD- 170 and RD-180 series engines were and still are the pinnacle of kerosene/LOX powered rocket engines with near unmatched reliability and efficiency. And they have been since the 70s. And both Antares and Atlas rockets used them. Thanks to Putler being a Hitler wannabe, those enignes will die with Soyuz though.
@@rohesilmnelohe Gee, the _Soviets_ invented something. And then made no significant progress. Their rockets work, but better things are on the very near horizon and it's coming from everyone who _isn't_ the Russians.
"How good is the F-22?" In simulated combat, iirc, it took like 80 F-15's to bring down 1 F-22 and the F-15 is famous for being the greatest fighter jet in the world with a KD ratio of 104:0 over it's entire lifetime.
@@mechsupernova I assume the simulation incluided infinite fuel and infinite missiles. Doubt the F-22 carried enough missiles and shells to desroy 80 planes.
@@mechsupernova Yeah, 6 rounds per plane sounds doable. That speaks volumes about its maneuverability. I doubt the 15s were flying alone, so one one went down it became a dogfight with the others.
Let's play what's more terrifying? An F-22 that you don't see but know is there or an F-22 that pops up on your raidar. I've always heard it as open bays.
@@hollisrichardson7112it depends on who's team your on, if you're on the F-22's team then it having closed doors is scarier because that means it isn't in the process of making the enemy not exsist
My dad was an NFO (Naval Flight Officer) and one of the 4 sailors in control of an EA-6B Prowler (an electronic warfare air craft with a round nose, not pointy like a purpose built fighter) When the 22’s were first created, he was sent with his squadron, VAQ-134 (the Garudas) up to Alaska for a Red Flag training mission along side probably a ton of other aircraft. He wasn’t allowed to tell me the specifics of anything, just that he was “incredibly impressed” with the 22’s. HOWEVER, my did DID manage to score a small victory against the Raptors. When all the squadrons went out to the bar after a long day of war games, one of the Raptor Pilots was bragging about his silhouette patch and how he and his squad mates were “the only people in the WORLD who had them” Well, one of my dads Junior Officers came up to him, and said “bet you can’t get that patch off of him, *insert my dads call sign that I can’t say because it might offend someone here*” My dad sidled up to the Raptor pilot and offered to buy him a round. Then another. And another. About 6 or so deep and this guy was my dads BEST friend 😉 So when my dad said “hey lieutenant, mind if I see that patch?” The guy pulled it right off his flight suit and slapped it into my dad’s hand. And my dad just kinda…never gave it back lol. And I still have that patch, sitting on the LEGO X-Wing I built for the custom mini figure my friend made in honor of my dad. One of my most cherished memories.
@@americansoviet9908 that was the story. That he got the Raptor pilot nice and sloshed and managed to “permanently borrow” said pilots F-22 silhouette patch. And his call sign was “Mob” as in “a Lynch mob” because of his last name.
The F-22 is indeed faster and more maneuverable, but the F-35 is like the eye of Sauron. It's in the middle of a monster radar upgrade (when it already had the best radar in the US fighter inventory *before* upgrading) and it's covered in sensors from head to toe. While the 22 can get right on its target unseen and outperform it, the 35 doesn't even need to go over there in the first place. They're both terrifying.
@@Tm-dy2bp To be better worded, the f-35 is the F-22 of air to ground. It can and has done AA and to honestly scary effectivity. But both are made for different roles. The F-22 cleans the airsapce of threats with the 35's close behind to serve as coordinators of sorts. Then the 35's do some sead/dead to make a hole for other troops and jets to pass.
@@ciberthej no matter how you spin it and it has been said ad infnitum at this point but if its on your side "Thank God its on our side" and if its not well...good luck
Strange comparison anyway because they weren't designed to fly against each other, they were designed to fly together. All the advantages he was describing relative to enemy aircraft are even just when it is flying by itself.
I remember driving around Hampton VA once (near Langley AFB) with my sunroof open. I kept hearing LOUD jet noises and couldn’t figure out where. Then I looked up and saw two F-22’s dogfight training in a straight up ascending corkscrew with each other. I almost wrecked because I was in such awe. They are truly terrifying… and I’m so happy they’re ours ❤️
Last month I finally got to see the F-22 performance at the Airforce Air show. Veterans from Vietnam to current, even airmen, all stood in awe of crazy maneuvering of the F-22.
Meanwhile the 35 doesn't need to turn around, instead it drops a missile out of its bay that this flying, armed radar then turns around to fire *_behind it_* because it can lock anything that comes near it from any direction.
@@tremedarhen the missile doesn’t turn fast enough or runs out of energy too fast to be able to turn around and you get gunned into metal Swiss cheese. Also not to be that guy but the F35 doesn’t use radar for that it uses a head mounted display that slaves the missiles bore sight gimbal to the healmet and their respective sensors which can be flared.
When I hear "turn around inside its own length" all I can imagine is gravity is bullshit and the F22 is basically maneuvering like Vipers from battlestar galatica and just orientating in space on a all axis gimbal.
SUPERcruise. Not Hypercriuse. It is a great feature. And even though it isn’t widely reported, the F-35 IS capable of a limited supercruise sprint because the P&W F-135 engine they shoehorned in there is so re-God Damn-diculously powerful, Supercruise was actually an unintended ability first noted in some of the early -135A flight tests that still exists today. The F-22 is the greatest air supremacy fighter ever fielded (NGAD will likely surpass it in some regimes), but the single biggest reason the F-35 can’t stomp the F-22…is because it wasn’t ever intended to fill the same role. The Lightning II has been a multi-role airplane from day 1. It’s like comparing a Blackhawk with some .50s to an Apache. Different missions with some overlap…but you get the idea. Digging these videos man. Solid work!
Also the SR-71 wasn't capable of supercruise, it had to have its afterburner going to sustain it's mach-3 cruise. The only other aircraft known to have unlimited supercruise is the Concorde, as far as I am aware
@@laglord it would have no reason to attempt supercruise because anything because its max efficiency speed WAS mach 3.2 (fuel-to-range efficiency) even if it could technically supercruise it wouldnt be for the benefits supercruise is meant to have
Been trying to explain this to people for so long... F-35 is not a fighter, it is a strike craft... I know the lines have been blurred since the 4th gen refits, but the fighter "F" designation was historically assigned to air superiority fighters, while strike craft or "attack" fighters were given an "A" designation. Just because a plane is fighter sized and can carry air-to-air missile does not make it an Air Superiority Fighter. The A-10 can load up sidewinders, and yet no one would ask silly questions like could it take down a F-16 in a dog fight... The Harrier has air-to-air kills, but it was never designed to be a dog fighter... hence the AV-8B designation... Got into with some idiots that thought the F-35 was a failure because it couldn't VTOL, instead it's a STOVL... it was always a STOVL, it can take off vertically without a payload, but what good is that.. also the Harrier was extremely limited in its payload using VTOL, which is why it would usually use a Catobar, or Ski-ramp anyways... so yea, people need to learn thier aircraft history... F-22 won't be matched or usurped until the USAF says so.. keep on hating losers😂 this guy knows what I am talking about, lol
Former F-22 crew chief here. Even for heat seeking missiles it’s incredibly difficult to get a lock because the thrust vectoring nozzles on the engines are covered with special radar absorbing cooling plates. Essentially it’s like an air hockey table covered in stealth paint. What it does is take some of the inlet air and funnels it through those panels thus creating a cone of cooler air to surround the hot exhaust and reduce the size of the heat signature. When the F-22 is on display for an air show or even when it’s not running and just sitting in its “parking space” there are special cover’s that not only plug the exhaust but also cover those panels to protect and hide them.
Bro how much of that are you legally allowed to talk about. Obviously I’m a jarhead, now old school F18 mech… there’s shit I’m still not allowed to speak of with that dinosaur. Just looking out that’s all.
We call this the "it's my sky everyone else just go home and sit down".... feel like the Raptor is like the alien fighter from Independence Day... one of them vs 100 of us and maybe it gets a scratch.
Good video for an army guy! The same can be said about the F-15 and F-16. Different missions, different sizes. The F-35 is stealthier but has a smaller radar and capability, single engine, less range. But, it has electronics and comm that are so far advanced beyond the F-22 that upgrades had to be made so they could talk and it has Intel gathering and data sharing abilities to the point that it can be launched just for that purpose. They should have built more 22s.
The f22 is more stealth then the f35 which only really approaches the RCS of the f22 from the head on perspective but even then is still worse. And tbf the 22 had its own very good LPI datalink/sync just the f22 couldn't talk to anything else but other f22 with the same system prior to the f35 and the program to let them talk with a U2.
What everyone fails to notice is the problem F35 was built to solve. It solves the issue of what happens when your enemy shoots down all your satellites it becomes the information bridge to connect everything together so all the other assets can put warheads on foreheads. Whereas F22 was designed to shoot everyone else out of the sky.
@@MrDJAK777 where does it say that the 22 is stealthier that’s NOT the 2006 report that came out before the damn F-35 even flew? It’s smaller and a decade newer with more advanced RAM martial (you can literally see the difference), there’s no reason it should be less stealthy.
The F-22 is so good that it was literally ahead of its time, suffering from budget cuts in the post-Cold War period before it was recognized that China, Russia, and other countries would reemerge as potential threats and having an open production line is kind of essential for a fighter.
I wanted to fly an f22 when I was younger but then I grew to be 6 foot 6 and all the fly boys I knew told me even if I could manage to squeeze into the cockpit by some miracle of God if I ever had to eject I would rip my legs off from the knees down. Was sad to hear but it is what it is. I still love this plane even if my dreams got crushed.
6ft4 here. Always wanted to pilot an F14 Tomcat (not because of top gun, I hadn't seen it yet) Variable geometry is one of the coolest things ever. But yeah, legs ripped off and increased susceptibility to G-lock isn't great. Iv trained to resist hypertension, but still managed to pull a few G's paragliding and grayed out for a second. I could be a half decent pilot, but I will never be on the level of a shorter guy taking an airframe to its limit. Iv been told they accept taller guys now but you need to sign extra paperwork about responsibility for your own death and do some extra tests. I suppose I could have moved onto drones, but I've since moved on to more academic things. Some of which might be applied in drones jets and missiles so perhaps I'll contribute to the skies in some way after all.
Worked the F22 program at Wright-Patt in the mid 90's, retired now. This jet is so far ahead of its time that in its infinite wisdom the DoD wants to retire it before it has ever seen action. The most superior interceptor on the planet. Yay us! Let's get rid of it. PLEASE someone explain this to me...
Recently brought up the 22 to my dad, wondering if he got to work with them when he worked on the test ranges. He immediately said 'Oh beautiful planes, I remember being the flight coordinator on the prototypes up at the tower. Remember when you were a kid and I said that I saw things out there stall in midair and turn on a dime? That was the 22. Incredible to see."
As former ARFF at Marietta, we were warned about "Raptor bites" Those ordinance doors open and close faster than a human eye blinks. And EVERY leading and trailing edge moves on it!
I believe the original 'pilots manual' for the F22 (which would usually dictate limitations for the airframe, tell pilots 'you cant do this or you'll break the aircraft.' said something to the effect of 'do whatever you want, the aircraft will maneuver in a manner that will exceed your ability to withstand the forces on your body. You will not break the aircraft.'
Because I know that you really appreciate this stuff... You are mostly right... But also wrong. My sources: good friend who is a Raptor and Lightning crew chief + amateur historian / humble enough to know I might be fucking wrong . The F-22 is certainly the most capable air dominance fighter on earth-even now. And it's capable of some crazy aerobatics. But that isn't what makes it so deadly. Dogfighting as we know it is largely dead. Top Gun is a thing of the past. Mostly, the F-22 is deadly because: 1) Stealthy AF, ESPECIALLY in wavelengths required for weapons lock. It's entirely feasible for an F-22 to be a deadass in front of an older fighter... Which cannot lock it. Coatings, dude. Wild 2) Think about all of the utterly crazy shit that you know our radars, weapons, and linked systems can do together... The F-22 can do all of that, except optimized for killing things in the sky. The F-35 can too, but it wasn't built as a dedicated air dominance fighter. Just like a Patriot, the F-22 can be tapped on the shoulder by a helper radar, YEET out a missile, and lock a target with the missile's onboard seeker a few milliseconds beforehand. Surprise! You're dead. From hundreds of miles away. You're dead and the F-22 never even entered your country's airspace. Byeeee Supercruising (not hypercruising) is very impressive, but also not particularly important. Sure, flying supersonic is amazing... But you know what's way faster? Radar beams... And missiles. The ideal F-22 engagement begins and ends long before an enemy aircraft has any idea they're not alone in the skies. That's why it's a killer. It just happens to be an acrobat too. I think we can both agree it's the sexiest plane to ever fly though. Glorious. Keep up the amazing air defense content. I love it! 👍
Right in all accounts. Yeah I did miss speak on the hypercruise thing. After I posted the video in tiktok I had a ton of people teach me all about the system and everything you said is absolutely correct. The leg up that the f35 has is its a flying super computer. Here on RUclips look up "IBCS flight test 5" that was the day that I personally had an f35 guide my patriot missile into a couple of cruise missile surrogates. Was a huge deal for air power.
@@habitual_linecrosser i feel like you and The Fat Electrician would be good friends seeing as you both have the same sense of humor i would love to see you 2 do a collab or at least watch you react to some of his videos
@@jonathanlunger2775 true, but the F22 isn't just invisible on radar and able to fling it's missles wherever it wants, it's also able to out maneuver anything in the skies currently. what I'm trying to say is the only thing that could dogfight an f22 is another f22, ironically probably the only thing that can't be missiled down as well.
Thank you for your service. I saw some of your videos and assumed that you either HAD to be in the military or at least have known someone in it. You are a patriot and I salute your for it.
In 2003 1 F22 took on 5 F15’s and the F15 pilots admitted that during the entire engagement they never even saw the F22 until they were already dead. One pilot put it: “It was like clubbing baby seals”
@@silversamuri1737 baby seals are defenseless they dont even try to run away they just sit there and let you kill them. The F-15s were the baby seals the F-22 was the club.
The F-22 and F-35 relationship is like the Schwarzenneger Predator hunting you through the jungle while it also has a cloaked drone a mile away that isn’t fooled by mud. The F-22 tears you to shreds up close before you even know it is there, while the F-35, sluggish as it is, deletes you from 12 miles out.
@Andromedon yeah bud? you fly military aircraft in real life? I was an avionics tech in the navy. I reckon my aviation warfare pin means I know more than some clown.
@@robomonkey1018 Your arrogance stinks. What would popping ALL of your chaff do to benefit you? What if they fire again? You're SOL. My experience with this is the fact that the Viper has multiple settings for how much chaff and flare you dispense. Some instances, less, some more, some all at once. Your absolute statement, to me, seems logically wrong. Though, I am open to being proven wrong...so enlighten me
The F-35 just covers more versatile roles. Basically can carry a lot more different types of munitions or payloads with VTOL options for Navy while still retaining a good stealth footprint.
"How good is the F-22?" It's an Ace Combat protag's plane of choice. That should tell you how good it is if you're a nerd like me. Or like most of the air force.
I heard a story from a couple growler pilot buddies about a combat exercise taking place in Las Vegas area. A flight group of 15 planes of veriying models went up against either 2-5 f-22s, the f22s had been sent out about 30-45 minutes before the other squad. It only took 15 minutes for the f22s to "shoot" down all 15 planes with out ever being spotted on radar.
To be fair it is time for a replacement, or at least a refresh. The F-22 platform is great, but its avionics and electronic warfare suite are now pretty dated and ourclassed by newer jets.
The F-22 replacement could already be out there, but has not been made public yet. Just like the F-22. By the time it was announced as in service, it had actually been in service for a few years.
The thing that makes me excited about the F-35 over the F-22 is that there were people saying the F-22 was high-priced trash and that the F-16 was just fine. I can't wait to see the F-35's real capabilities.
Who has ever called the F-22 "high priced trash"? I know I've heard people remark about how the F-35 is bottomless pit for tax payers dollars, but I've not heard anyone talk shit about the F-22, which was purpose built to replace the F-15 eagle for the air superiority role. I'm genuinely curious.
You know the funny thing is against pretty much everyone but maybe 2 non NATO countries the F-16 is just fine...and could even still be considered damn good against 95% of countries out there. Which makes the 22 and 35 an absolute treat. We are playing Chess while everyone else is still trying to get the plastic wrap off of their checkers box.
@@kellhound7227 The so-called 'fighter mafia' the 'reformers' people who think our armed forces should be as primitive as the Russians. They get laughed out of every room that isn't an echo chamber when they display their stupidity.
I was under the impression that the primary design limit on the top speed was the decision to not incorporate variable geometry inlets. The thinking was along the lines of, "the speed we can get out of fixed inlets is good enough for what we think it needs to do, and if we go much faster then stealth coating starts to degrade, and if we wanted to go faster, the weight of the required shtuff would hurt us in other areas, so lets call this good and move on."
...i mean if you didnt care about stealth... how much faster could you actually get, because there does come a point where the result of reaction time and movement time to respond to the threat becomes equivalent to if the person didnt register there was a threat. at that point it becomes a cost analysis of which is overall cheaper, slower and undetected or so fast it doesn't matter if its detected
@@nopejhonson958 The A-12 clocked in at Mach 3+, albiet at 70-80,000 ft. But between the time it takes to accelerate to those speeds to the special design features required for those speeds and limits on maneuvering at speed, there aren't really good reasons to do it. So far as I understand, Lockheed was confident they could make stealth coatings that would survive at the higher speeds, but based on lessons from the F-14 and F-15, they didn't think they would need that speed.
Any thing above Mach 2 is overrated. Now getting up to speed, climbing, and retaining that energy is what really matters in a BVR fight and the Raptor slugs everything except the Typhoon which isn’t stealth anyway. There was a Raptor pilot who described it best, “Hitting Mach 2 at high altitude in an F-15 is “very uncomfortable,” according to JB, as the engines start to struggle and the controls battle with the thin atmosphere. Meanwhile, the F-22 remains as smooth “riding in a limousine [or] like flying first class in a 787.” No surprise, then, that JB “spent more time supersonic in the first month of flying the F-22 than I had in my entire career up to that point.” Now THAT is batshit insane. It accelerates and maneuvers at 50,000 feet like a normal fighter jet would at 25,000. That is by far the most impressive thing to any real pilot.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 I wonder how much of that smoothness is due to aerodynamic improvements, which so far as I understand do not typically work and play well with stealth requirements, and how much comes from the digital flight control smoothing things out before thee pilot can even feel it.
Plus think about this. In that demo they are only showing what they are allowed to so. We all know the plane can do way more. Just on what we know I'm glad it's on our side.
What's most impressive is that in ALL demos, private or otherwise, the pilots are told NOT to show the Raptor's true capability. The only people who WOULD know about it would be the pilots theirselves or the ones currently pushing dasies. Oh, just realized @KingRipper407 basically said the same thing.
@@venomous2die4 even in training against other USAF pilots, they aren't allowed to use the plane to its full potential unless they are engaging other F-22's, lol.
The laws of physics are just a suggestion for the F-22. If for some reason you managed to get the drop on a 22, which you wouldn’t, but let’s just say you did, it would do some magical bullshit power slide and you’d either be joining your buddies in the army or meeting them in hell before you even knew what happened
In my ideal air strike package there are 35s for all the guidance/avoidance nonsense 22s and 23s for scoutind target locking 15ex and 16 xls for hauling as many radar guided career changers as possible
I think the original Idea was for them, F-22 and F-35s, were to be followed by a B-1 that had nothing but every type of missile in the inventory, and letting the stealthy boys provide target acquisition, and then the B-1 would blot out the sun, and then RTB to restock. But due to budgets the B-1 got the ax in favor of the next gen of stealth bomber or just to keep other things operational.
As someone who has actively fu*ked with F-22's, and I mean actually and physically been all up in the tailpipe in an unprofessional and decidedly mischevious manner (Hey Tyndall. If it hasn't been to Depot, I guarantee you haven't found that zap yet.) Lemme tell ya something! Facts: The F-16 is the most maneuverable. In a heads up dogfight, it'll eat any Gen-5 for lunch. Cut a 15 in half, and teach it ballet from the Van Damme school. And trust me, that half a jet will happily make any sap kind enough to fu*k around find out. It's the bee that the butterfly's wife went home with. It is the homework we share with our friends to show off. The F-15E is the fastest. In the right configuration....it's the reason the F-22 worries about its paint peeling off. Longest range, biggest payload. It's what you get when you cross a Ram Truck with NASCAR, then roid it up. It's Rocky tap dancing with Dean Martin. It is not the jack of all trades. It is Jack's entire offensive line. The F-16 pilots say "Oh yeah. We can take an F-15 any day if we can get inside that radar undetected. But god damn that radar. And every time we get behind one they just punch afterburner, and see ya!" The F-22 is the part of Captain America they don't have deleted scenes for. Take every aspect of the F-16's maneuverability, and cross it with all the lovin' spoonful of the F-15, and dip it in a vat of Nighthawk juice, then with a length of pipe force feed it the angriest Samsung Galaxy Note you ever got banned from a flight for bringing onboard. It will follow you on Tinder just so it can unfriend you. The F-15E pilots say "Yeah, we can take an F-22 on a clear day if we go to guns. But aside from visual, the damn thing is invisible. We can lock up missiles close up, but they're gone if you don't fire immediately. It's like trying to fight a magician inside the rabbit's hat, and the magician cheats." In "I'm too scared to break our $200M toy" rules, the new guys in the 22's took us 30:1. After our senior pilot called the 22 Sqad's Commander a pu$$y, we got it down to 21:10. Our ace pilot taking 6 22's for himself while dying once. Kinda fun seeing a noob in an F-22 get all pissy with the crew after losing to a crusty old F-15. But this is fresh from flight school Pilot Trainees vs experienced, and a few Veteran fighter pilots. And they have better stats than the entire Russian Air Force already. By the time they graduate to an active combat base. There was a guy... this guy... This old seedy motherf*cker took us on in an F-4 Phantom 2 on 2. This thing was supposed to be a target/drone for missile practice, and this old Nam POW/MIA Vet in an F-F*CKING-4 Phantom II absolutely mopped the floor with our new guys. "I fought half of Vietnam with one hand tied behind my back." He said. "I am the reason Top Gun exists." Now imagine an F-22 pilot with a few thousand hours of sticktime... mother of god. If the F-16 is John McClane, and the F-15 is John Rambo, then the F-22 is John Wick. (That motherf*cker in the F-4 had to be John Wayne.) I wouldn't be surprised at all if some Crew Chief named his aircraft "Baba Yaga", "Chupacabra", or "Drederick Tatum". To anything in the sky...well...Remember when you'd say your prayers at night, and then you'd jump under the sheets really fast, because you were scared the devil was under your bed and gonna grab your feet?...the F-22 is the Devil. Look under your bed...nothing there. In the closet...nothing there. Leave the nightlight on. Crack the door open. Drink a glass of water. What was that noise? Mom? ... ... Dad!? ... ... [creak] ... ... ... hello? ... ... ... ... .......... .. .. .. [muffled scream] The only evidence were scratches on the floor leading under the bed, and the lingering smell of meth and war crimes.
I remember watching Growling Sidewinder videos about "F-22 very disrespectful Flanker" which exactly remake the F-4 case but with DCS Platform just to show a little glance on how Raptor capable to sneak behind the Flanker untill the player freaked out because it manage to sneak pass through AWACS and his radar
ALSO, when the enemy is behind the F-22... it can lock on and aspect a missle into its rear quadrant. Just imagine you finnaly get behind this thing and your EWS just starts freaking out. Its like if a sniper settled his crosshair on a unaware target and just hears the soft locking of a bolt behind him.
@@joshuafischer684 it actually has reasonably small radar cross section from the front. Which is pretty useful in a BVR fight or other intercept missions. Not true stealth, but small enough to make good use of their meteor missiles.
The Rafale and Gripen also can supercruise just about. Hell even the old F104 *could* supercruise technically, at mach 1.05 completely clean, though of course thats pushing the definition a bit.
Super-cruise is cool. It just doesn’t help much when a random bumblebee that also happens to be outrunning local sound waves slams an AMRAAM into you from behind a mountain range 80 miles away. Something the Typhoon has never had the ability to do.
Love your content , small correction. The SR 71 blackbird flew in afterburner the entire time, except when it was refueling. I believe when it was refueling, it kept one engine and afterburner the other one out of afterburner in order to slow down enough for the 135 to refuel it.
F-22 = Surprise knofe attack by an assassin in an alley F-35 = "We saw you coming two days ago... And the airfield you left no longer exists. You might want to go find a new one before you run out of fuel."
I feel like the F-22 and the A-10 are terrifying for the exact opposite reason. The F-22 is scary because it's a heavily armed, highly maneuverable death machine that you won't see until it's on top of you. The A-10 is scary because you know exactly where it is, but also know it carries the most devastating ballistic weapon allowed in war, and if you can see it, there's a good chance that it sees you and is waiting for you to get into range
The a10 is also terrifying because it's an inaccurate piece of ship and you'd probably be better served using a crop duster with missiles slapped to it as CAS
@@solo8734 Because: 1) It's just cool af 2) The GAU-8 Avenger can shoot 4000 depleted uranium White Claw cans in a minute, which means it can just blanket the area enough 3) It's pretty hard to take down without SAMs 4) It not only has the Avenger, but also a smorgasbord of bombs, missiles, and rockets with enough flares that if it is attacked, it can evade and remove the offending SAM from existence
The concord could also super, not hyper, cruise, which meant it could sustain supersonic without afterburner. Unlike the worlds first SST, the TU-144, which only got out first because of the KGB and the fact that they just slapped parts together.
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The funny thing its sensor systems is what makes it truly unstoppable. It can see, fire, and leave before it even gets in to your radar range. By the time the first missile hits it's already firing on its third target. Oh and if there is anyone else that can see you they can talk to the 22 and give it target data. So it doesnt even have to see you to take you out.
So difference between 4th and 5th gen are like between bicycle and motorbike. And when only few nations can even try to struggle to get the 5th gen aircraft. US is already on the finish of developing 6th gen? Shit that's crazy
A number of years ago in a TV series about aerial warfare but I can't remember the name of right now, the author Tom Clancy said this about the F-22 "If the F-22 was a woman, she'd be Kim Basinger....just a beautiful beautiful woman" That probably sums it up nicely....
Chaff and flares don't always work, so infrared is *still* your best bet even though it has countermeasures. Also, as I understand it, the F-35 can now see an F-22 coming via infrared before the F-22 can pick the F-35 up on RADAR. So Fat Amy might actually be the only gal able to get a drop on the Zodiac Killer.
@@aidanwilliams9452 And as long as the f35 is facing the f22, it is more stealthy than the f22. It has a significantly reduced RCS at the front compared to the f22.
My daughter got me a grandpa buff shirt..I LOVE IT. MY first base was a BUFF BASE. STILL LOVE THEM . I used to chase parts for the C-17 cargo plane..love that fat moose. usaf vet
Though it isn’t very intimidating to use in russian bomber intercepts, normally after you confirm that the bomber has VID on you, you do a hard bank away to show the underbelly of your jet so the bomber can see all the heat you’re packing, but the 22’s weapons are all held internally, so it looks unarmed
Couple of things. 1) It's called supercruise. 2) Even the heat seekers have issues locking on in their best situations. And 3) even overwhelming odds were almost not enough in a couple of war games against other NATO countries. I think the score was something like 56-1 with only 4 Raptors, and the 1 kill was an Apache that got lucky the 22 pilot underestimated them or something. But that's just what I've heard from a civilian standpoint.
i mean the f22 isn't more capable than the f35, by definition the f35 is a multirole fighter and it'll replace most roles in the airforce the f22 is the single best air superiority/interceptor plane atm (i adore the f15 but hey it's less advanced sorry)
I wonder if they'll still keep the F-22 around even after the NGAD fighter is put into service. If the F-22 is still leagues beyond its competion, I see no reason that having it still be around a problem. In fact it would be a great supplement to the new one.
@@joshuakhaos4451 the short answer is no, due to there being so few F-22s there are few spare parts around. It also will be old with alot of flight time on the airframes, meaning it will be forced to retire from raw usage. Then there is the issue of upgradablility. Remember that the F-22 was built with 90s tech, so modularity and upgradability weren't really a prime design feature. Its actually costing the USAF a whole lot of money now just to try to upgrade it to talk with modern tech.
And here is what would scare the hell out of me, if I was Putin or Xi. In several area, the F-22 wasn’t as good as the FY-23 when competing for this massive contract. And these designs are over 30 years old now. I would be shocked if we aren’t incredibly close to a 6th Gen announcement.
Being fair, they're two TOTALLY different aircraft for two totally different roles and the only reason they can even be on lists comparing each other is that the lessons learned from the 22 were utilized as a baseline for the 35. Lockheed literally said "let's start at with the F-22" at the whiteboard for the JSF program. It's like comparing a Toyota to a Koenigseg: the super enginered million dollar supercar is what you'll bring to the track, but the toyota is for literally *everything else*
The fun thing with stealth radar across sections are designed to absorb or reflect high density frequencies used for targeting. However they are able to be tracked via low band frequencies that are unable to give exact coordinates of their location. So an enemy can notice the presence of a stealth fighter but not know where it is.
I believe that in a war games exercise, Sweden actually managed to missle lock onto the F22 and "down it" with a radar guided missle. It was the only time it happened, though, because it was from above.
0:40 It's called Supercruise, and it's something jets have been doing since the early 1960s. Unless you mean it can do it at a fraction of max throttle, then that's something different, i know the absurdity of the F119 engines' power, i'm surprised they're not at all classified. It's only more impressive given it's lack of transonic area ruling.
One of the biggest assets the F22 has is its radar system. It was explained to me by a professor at AFIT (Airforce Institute of Technology) that the F22 is basically a flying supercomputer and that it's radar allows it to see enemies LONG before enemies could even see them physically or on radar even AFTER the bay doors are open, possible even over the curvature of the earth (I could have that last bit wrong, it's been a long time since the lecture that covered that). That's why the F22 mission patch says (or said initially) "First Look, First Kill."
I saw this at an Air Show once... black. fucking. magic. It stopped in mid-air, casually turned around, turned BACK around, then started going... again. Thank God it's on my side...
It’s almost like they’re two completely different planes with completely different roles. Who’d have imagined the air superiority fighter is better at dog fighting than a strike fighter.
When you mix the DNA of a cat for stealth, with the deviousness of a raven and the sheer mayhem of a cape buffalo, I guess you could be excused for being psychotic!😂😂
F-22 is by far and away the best air superiority fighter out there. The F-35 outclasses it in sensor fusion, technology, and mulirole/strike capability. It's no slouch in the A2A regime either and will wax any 4th gen in a beyond visual range engagement.
A shame it will likely be replaced by NGAD before it ever sees combat. Unless we literally end up in WW3, the states will always feel like there hasn't been enough "fuck around" for that level of "find out" and they will sit on the 22 until it is no longer the scariest thing in the sky.
Both the F-22 and the F-35 can be detected by lower frequency radars but knowing something is there and being able to do something about it are VERY different things. To target something you need to be able to detect it with a Fire Control Radar. Fire Control Radars operate at significantly higher frequencies as they provide higher resolution( I'm using this as a catch-all for several attributes). This is where RCS (radar cross section) enters the conversation. The F-22 has an RCS about the same as a metal marble and the F-35 is about the same as a golf ball. The lock-on distance for both fighters is significantly less than the range of the weapons they carry. BTW - Go Navy, Beat Army.
The exhaust was designed to reduce heat signature, and to block the heat from more angles. It has little holes in the "nozzles" to force cooler air around the exhaust. There's also a coating, the contents of which are unknown for obvious reasons, to remove part of the heat signature. You do have 1 partial misconception though. You can see it on high fidelity radar, it's not invisible to radar. The issue is trying to get a target quality lock. It is true, however, that the F-22 has to be much closer to the radar in order to be spotted, let alone locked, relative to other fighters. By the time you do see it on radar, you are within AMRAAM range, under optimal launch conditions. By the time you can get a lock on the F-22, you are within the MAR (minimum abort range) of the AMRAAM (meaning you can no longer kinetically defeat the missile), and are crossing into sidewinder territory. As for SAM systems and radar, by the time you see the F-22 or F-35 you're within HARM range. Also, fun fact, the Golden tint on the F-22 is to reduce rcs. Radar can go through glass and bounce off the unstealthy interior of the cockpit. The engines are placed behind an S curved intake because spinning compressor blades have a huge rcs.
"It's gonna kill you so dead that you're reincarnated as an abortion."
Fuckin' GOLD. 😂😂😂
I fuckin died when he said that 😂
That one 💀'd me lol
OH MY FUCKING GOD! I legit almost DIED laughing so hard, I could not literally breath. OH MY GOD I am writing that shit down.
Damn near spit my drink all over my computer screen when he said that. 🤣
lost my shit at that one lmaooo
First time seeing the 22 at an airshow was mind blowing. The 22 went straight up, stalled out, did a complete backflip and once it became horizontal, literally turned 180° on a dime and took off again. So glad it's on our team.
Oh a falling leaf. Yeah idk how the heck they do it but they do.
Which is why if we ever decided to stop playing nice the Russian air force would be grounded by lunch and the Chinese by late afternoon. The North Korean's... Yeah they wouldn't even try they would just un-alive themselves to save the 22 the time.
Never got to see one fly but I remember going to an airshow in 2002-3 when I was young and still remember the awesome gold coating on the cockpit, I’ve seen f16 and f18s at Fallon naval air base and the f16s dog fighting capabilities are incredible we watched training exercises between f16s and even mig 21s go up against f18s and the experienced guys really showed what those f-16s could do f18 has the power but f16 excels at low altitude
@@JIKwoodThrust vector go brrrrr
@JIKwood - nearly unlimited thrust and no weight. Even armed they can go from nothing to gone so very quickly.
F22 pilots in exercises with 4th gen fighters, used call it clubbing baby seals
They exercise with the F-35 too and it's the only fighter the Raptor pilots are worried about.
@@dat581 The term "worried" is used loosely here. F-22s are still the most dominant fighter ever built.
@@StudleyDuderight No the term "worried" is not used loosely. The- F-35 is the only jet that can compete with the F-22, especially BVR. It uses the same weapons and has far better sensors. Sensors are what matter in the BVR game.
@@dat581 "Fat Amy" only has a moderate chance against a Raptor in BVR but doesn't have a fucking prayer in a dogfight. That's because "Fat Amy" was not purpose-built for killing other aircraft like the F-22 was. It's not a bad airframe, but it just isn't on the same level. Worried? Nah. I'd say more like mildly concerned.
@@StudleyDuderight So you don't actually have a clue about the performance of the F-22, F-35 or any of their sensors? And yes the F-35 was designed to kill other fighters first and foremost. If you knew anything about fighter design you would know that but clearly you don't.
Crazy fact: In the book "Skunk Works", the story of how we developed stealth tech is told, and it literally cam from a paper that the Russians looked at and said, "It ain't possible." Meanwhile, Lockheed looked at the paper, and made the F117A happen. Any time someone tells you the Russians have a tech edge, understand they wouldn't know what to do with that edge IF they in fact had it.
every protractor in the world couldn't help them.
Except in rocketry, where they were decades ahead.
N-1 failed because it was a political rush job.
Staged cycle, liquid fueled rocket engines where the pre-burner was OX rich is something no one else thought possible...until after the fall of soviet empire they bought those engines. Almost all engineers though the russians and ukrainians were lying.
NK-33, RD- 170 and RD-180 series engines were and still are the pinnacle of kerosene/LOX powered rocket engines with near unmatched reliability and efficiency. And they have been since the 70s.
And both Antares and Atlas rockets used them.
Thanks to Putler being a Hitler wannabe, those enignes will die with Soyuz though.
@@rohesilmnelohe Gee, the _Soviets_ invented something. And then made no significant progress. Their rockets work, but better things are on the very near horizon and it's coming from everyone who _isn't_ the Russians.
Straight out facts!!! The f117 was developed from a Russian physicist published paper. We just did something with it
@@rohesilmnelohein the beginning, yes, from the moon landing... nah, the leaders lost interest and they didn't do much else interesting afterward
F22 is basically our best attempt to make a scale model of a dragon on cocaine and red bull.
Hahahahaha
Idk man. I think we got the dragon beat.
Naw man. It's that, but then some crazy fuck yelled "MAKE IT INVISIBLE!" and so they did
I thought that was the Warthog.
@@Revick_Revas no. The A-10 is a dragon on adderoll and paint thinner.
“It’s like peek a boo but with missiles” is by far the best description of the raptor I’ve ever heard
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"How good is the F-22?"
In simulated combat, iirc, it took like 80 F-15's to bring down 1 F-22 and the F-15 is famous for being the greatest fighter jet in the world with a KD ratio of 104:0 over it's entire lifetime.
I bet the F-15 only won because the F-22 ran out of ammo and gas 🤣😂
@@mechsupernova I assume the simulation incluided infinite fuel and infinite missiles. Doubt the F-22 carried enough missiles and shells to desroy 80 planes.
@@arcturus4762 it has an M61 Vulcan with 480 rounds, I'm sure it's targeting system could send them thru the cockpit of the F-15 fairly reliably.
@@mechsupernova Yeah, 6 rounds per plane sounds doable. That speaks volumes about its maneuverability. I doubt the 15s were flying alone, so one one went down it became a dogfight with the others.
It was against F15’s, F16’s, F18’s and F35’s.
It was 41:1 kill:death ratio and the F22’s flew with F15’s
"Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me..." Now I remember that line paraphrased from Silence of the Lambs. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I remember an old documentary on the F-22. The Military Expert they were interviewing said it best: “Beware of Raptors with open claws!”
Let's play what's more terrifying? An F-22 that you don't see but know is there or an F-22 that pops up on your raidar.
I've always heard it as open bays.
@@hollisrichardson7112it depends on who's team your on, if you're on the F-22's team then it having closed doors is scarier because that means it isn't in the process of making the enemy not exsist
My dad was an NFO (Naval Flight Officer) and one of the 4 sailors in control of an EA-6B Prowler (an electronic warfare air craft with a round nose, not pointy like a purpose built fighter)
When the 22’s were first created, he was sent with his squadron, VAQ-134 (the Garudas) up to Alaska for a Red Flag training mission along side probably a ton of other aircraft. He wasn’t allowed to tell me the specifics of anything, just that he was “incredibly impressed” with the 22’s.
HOWEVER, my did DID manage to score a small victory against the Raptors. When all the squadrons went out to the bar after a long day of war games, one of the Raptor Pilots was bragging about his silhouette patch and how he and his squad mates were “the only people in the WORLD who had them”
Well, one of my dads Junior Officers came up to him, and said “bet you can’t get that patch off of him, *insert my dads call sign that I can’t say because it might offend someone here*”
My dad sidled up to the Raptor pilot and offered to buy him a round. Then another. And another. About 6 or so deep and this guy was my dads BEST friend 😉
So when my dad said “hey lieutenant, mind if I see that patch?” The guy pulled it right off his flight suit and slapped it into my dad’s hand. And my dad just kinda…never gave it back lol.
And I still have that patch, sitting on the LEGO X-Wing I built for the custom mini figure my friend made in honor of my dad.
One of my most cherished memories.
I’m sure the call sign can’t be that bad. And either way I kinda wanna hear the story lol
@@americansoviet9908 that was the story. That he got the Raptor pilot nice and sloshed and managed to “permanently borrow” said pilots F-22 silhouette patch.
And his call sign was “Mob” as in “a Lynch mob” because of his last name.
@@jomahawk7488 I meant story behind his callsign, but yea, thats an unfortunate last name
F22 pilot must be pretty pissed at himself after that tho
@@americansoviet9908 I don’t think my family name is “unfortunate” at all, thank you very much. And I think Mob for “Lynch” Mob is pretty bad ass.
@@jomahawk7488 Right, apologies.
The F-22 is indeed faster and more maneuverable, but the F-35 is like the eye of Sauron. It's in the middle of a monster radar upgrade (when it already had the best radar in the US fighter inventory *before* upgrading) and it's covered in sensors from head to toe. While the 22 can get right on its target unseen and outperform it, the 35 doesn't even need to go over there in the first place. They're both terrifying.
so what your saying together you have a hunter(f-35) and its overly coked out hunt dogs(f-22s)
@@Tm-dy2bp To be better worded, the f-35 is the F-22 of air to ground. It can and has done AA and to honestly scary effectivity. But both are made for different roles. The F-22 cleans the airsapce of threats with the 35's close behind to serve as coordinators of sorts. Then the 35's do some sead/dead to make a hole for other troops and jets to pass.
@@ciberthej no matter how you spin it and it has been said ad infnitum at this point but if its on your side "Thank God its on our side" and if its not well...good luck
@@Tm-dy2bp I cannot agree more with someone
Strange comparison anyway because they weren't designed to fly against each other, they were designed to fly together. All the advantages he was describing relative to enemy aircraft are even just when it is flying by itself.
I remember driving around Hampton VA once (near Langley AFB) with my sunroof open. I kept hearing LOUD jet noises and couldn’t figure out where.
Then I looked up and saw two F-22’s dogfight training in a straight up ascending corkscrew with each other. I almost wrecked because I was in such awe. They are truly terrifying… and I’m so happy they’re ours ❤️
Greetings from Fairfax!
Last month I finally got to see the F-22 performance at the Airforce Air show. Veterans from Vietnam to current, even airmen, all stood in awe of crazy maneuvering of the F-22.
If this thing can turn around *inside its own length,* that just turns dogfights into xp farms
Meanwhile the 35 doesn't need to turn around, instead it drops a missile out of its bay that this flying, armed radar then turns around to fire *_behind it_* because it can lock anything that comes near it from any direction.
@@tremedarhen the missile doesn’t turn fast enough or runs out of energy too fast to be able to turn around and you get gunned into metal Swiss cheese. Also not to be that guy but the F35 doesn’t use radar for that it uses a head mounted display that slaves the missiles bore sight gimbal to the healmet and their respective sensors which can be flared.
F-22 be spawn camping with a 180 and a 360 no scope.
That’s some H.A.W.X.-tier bullshit right there.
When I hear "turn around inside its own length" all I can imagine is gravity is bullshit and the F22 is basically maneuvering like Vipers from battlestar galatica and just orientating in space on a all axis gimbal.
SUPERcruise. Not Hypercriuse. It is a great feature. And even though it isn’t widely reported, the F-35 IS capable of a limited supercruise sprint because the P&W F-135 engine they shoehorned in there is so re-God Damn-diculously powerful, Supercruise was actually an unintended ability first noted in some of the early -135A flight tests that still exists today.
The F-22 is the greatest air supremacy fighter ever fielded (NGAD will likely surpass it in some regimes), but the single biggest reason the F-35 can’t stomp the F-22…is because it wasn’t ever intended to fill the same role. The Lightning II has been a multi-role airplane from day 1. It’s like comparing a Blackhawk with some .50s to an Apache. Different missions with some overlap…but you get the idea.
Digging these videos man. Solid work!
Also the SR-71 wasn't capable of supercruise, it had to have its afterburner going to sustain it's mach-3 cruise. The only other aircraft known to have unlimited supercruise is the Concorde, as far as I am aware
@@richardmillhousenixon The SR-71supposedly was supercruise capable, hanging around mach 1.2, but why would you?
@@laglord it would have no reason to attempt supercruise because anything because its max efficiency speed WAS mach 3.2 (fuel-to-range efficiency)
even if it could technically supercruise it wouldnt be for the benefits supercruise is meant to have
Id say YF-23 was and probably still is superior platform to the 22
Been trying to explain this to people for so long... F-35 is not a fighter, it is a strike craft... I know the lines have been blurred since the 4th gen refits, but the fighter "F" designation was historically assigned to air superiority fighters, while strike craft or "attack" fighters were given an "A" designation.
Just because a plane is fighter sized and can carry air-to-air missile does not make it an Air Superiority Fighter.
The A-10 can load up sidewinders, and yet no one would ask silly questions like could it take down a F-16 in a dog fight...
The Harrier has air-to-air kills, but it was never designed to be a dog fighter... hence the AV-8B designation...
Got into with some idiots that thought the F-35 was a failure because it couldn't VTOL, instead it's a STOVL... it was always a STOVL, it can take off vertically without a payload, but what good is that.. also the Harrier was extremely limited in its payload using VTOL, which is why it would usually use a Catobar, or Ski-ramp anyways...
so yea, people need to learn thier aircraft history...
F-22 won't be matched or usurped until the USAF says so.. keep on hating losers😂 this guy knows what I am talking about, lol
Former F-22 crew chief here. Even for heat seeking missiles it’s incredibly difficult to get a lock because the thrust vectoring nozzles on the engines are covered with special radar absorbing cooling plates. Essentially it’s like an air hockey table covered in stealth paint. What it does is take some of the inlet air and funnels it through those panels thus creating a cone of cooler air to surround the hot exhaust and reduce the size of the heat signature. When the F-22 is on display for an air show or even when it’s not running and just sitting in its “parking space” there are special cover’s that not only plug the exhaust but also cover those panels to protect and hide them.
Bro how much of that are you legally allowed to talk about. Obviously I’m a jarhead, now old school F18 mech… there’s shit I’m still not allowed to speak of with that dinosaur. Just looking out that’s all.
@@travismiller6076 it’s all been declassified so no worries.
Wow😮
so it farts to hide its shit...
We call this the "it's my sky everyone else just go home and sit down".... feel like the Raptor is like the alien fighter from Independence Day... one of them vs 100 of us and maybe it gets a scratch.
Good video for an army guy! The same can be said about the F-15 and F-16. Different missions, different sizes. The F-35 is stealthier but has a smaller radar and capability, single engine, less range. But, it has electronics and comm that are so far advanced beyond the F-22 that upgrades had to be made so they could talk and it has Intel gathering and data sharing abilities to the point that it can be launched just for that purpose. They should have built more 22s.
The f22 is more stealth then the f35 which only really approaches the RCS of the f22 from the head on perspective but even then is still worse. And tbf the 22 had its own very good LPI datalink/sync just the f22 couldn't talk to anything else but other f22 with the same system prior to the f35 and the program to let them talk with a U2.
Correction: They SHOULD have gone with the YF-23 😁
The good thing about the 35 is that unlike the 22, it CAN be sold to other nations, so now US allies can assist the F-22 and vice versa.
What everyone fails to notice is the problem F35 was built to solve. It solves the issue of what happens when your enemy shoots down all your satellites it becomes the information bridge to connect everything together so all the other assets can put warheads on foreheads. Whereas F22 was designed to shoot everyone else out of the sky.
@@MrDJAK777 where does it say that the 22 is stealthier that’s NOT the 2006 report that came out before the damn F-35 even flew? It’s smaller and a decade newer with more advanced RAM martial (you can literally see the difference), there’s no reason it should be less stealthy.
The F-22 is so good that it was literally ahead of its time, suffering from budget cuts in the post-Cold War period before it was recognized that China, Russia, and other countries would reemerge as potential threats and having an open production line is kind of essential for a fighter.
They aren't threats through military force
They are economic and cyber security threats now
I wanted to fly an f22 when I was younger but then I grew to be 6 foot 6 and all the fly boys I knew told me even if I could manage to squeeze into the cockpit by some miracle of God if I ever had to eject I would rip my legs off from the knees down. Was sad to hear but it is what it is. I still love this plane even if my dreams got crushed.
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6ft4 here.
Always wanted to pilot an F14 Tomcat (not because of top gun, I hadn't seen it yet)
Variable geometry is one of the coolest things ever.
But yeah, legs ripped off and increased susceptibility to G-lock isn't great.
Iv trained to resist hypertension, but still managed to pull a few G's paragliding and grayed out for a second.
I could be a half decent pilot, but I will never be on the level of a shorter guy taking an airframe to its limit.
Iv been told they accept taller guys now but you need to sign extra paperwork about responsibility for your own death and do some extra tests.
I suppose I could have moved onto drones, but I've since moved on to more academic things.
Some of which might be applied in drones jets and missiles so perhaps I'll contribute to the skies in some way after all.
Lol just got off the phone with an F-22 pilot. Ironic that your reply pulled me here
make your dream come true, rip off both of your legs and achieve your dream
I wanted to be an Air Force pilot, but God said no and gave me less than 20/20 vision. I was crushed when I learned I was disqualified.
Worked the F22 program at Wright-Patt in the mid 90's, retired now. This jet is so far ahead of its time that in its infinite wisdom the DoD wants to retire it before it has ever seen action. The most superior interceptor on the planet. Yay us! Let's get rid of it. PLEASE someone explain this to me...
"Re-incarnated as an abortion" I can't, just can't take these lines anymore🤣
Recently brought up the 22 to my dad, wondering if he got to work with them when he worked on the test ranges. He immediately said 'Oh beautiful planes, I remember being the flight coordinator on the prototypes up at the tower. Remember when you were a kid and I said that I saw things out there stall in midair and turn on a dime? That was the 22. Incredible to see."
As former ARFF at Marietta, we were warned about "Raptor bites" Those ordinance doors open and close faster than a human eye blinks. And EVERY leading and trailing edge moves on it!
I believe the original 'pilots manual' for the F22 (which would usually dictate limitations for the airframe, tell pilots 'you cant do this or you'll break the aircraft.' said something to the effect of 'do whatever you want, the aircraft will maneuver in a manner that will exceed your ability to withstand the forces on your body. You will not break the aircraft.'
Because I know that you really appreciate this stuff...
You are mostly right... But also wrong.
My sources: good friend who is a Raptor and Lightning crew chief + amateur historian / humble enough to know I might be fucking wrong .
The F-22 is certainly the most capable air dominance fighter on earth-even now. And it's capable of some crazy aerobatics. But that isn't what makes it so deadly.
Dogfighting as we know it is largely dead. Top Gun is a thing of the past. Mostly, the F-22 is deadly because:
1) Stealthy AF, ESPECIALLY in wavelengths required for weapons lock. It's entirely feasible for an F-22 to be a deadass in front of an older fighter... Which cannot lock it. Coatings, dude. Wild
2) Think about all of the utterly crazy shit that you know our radars, weapons, and linked systems can do together... The F-22 can do all of that, except optimized for killing things in the sky. The F-35 can too, but it wasn't built as a dedicated air dominance fighter.
Just like a Patriot, the F-22 can be tapped on the shoulder by a helper radar, YEET out a missile, and lock a target with the missile's onboard seeker a few milliseconds beforehand. Surprise! You're dead. From hundreds of miles away. You're dead and the F-22 never even entered your country's airspace. Byeeee
Supercruising (not hypercruising) is very impressive, but also not particularly important. Sure, flying supersonic is amazing... But you know what's way faster? Radar beams... And missiles.
The ideal F-22 engagement begins and ends long before an enemy aircraft has any idea they're not alone in the skies.
That's why it's a killer. It just happens to be an acrobat too.
I think we can both agree it's the sexiest plane to ever fly though. Glorious.
Keep up the amazing air defense content. I love it! 👍
Right in all accounts. Yeah I did miss speak on the hypercruise thing. After I posted the video in tiktok I had a ton of people teach me all about the system and everything you said is absolutely correct.
The leg up that the f35 has is its a flying super computer. Here on RUclips look up "IBCS flight test 5" that was the day that I personally had an f35 guide my patriot missile into a couple of cruise missile surrogates. Was a huge deal for air power.
@@habitual_linecrosser i feel like you and The Fat Electrician would be good friends seeing as you both have the same sense of humor i would love to see you 2 do a collab or at least watch you react to some of his videos
2nd sexiest... the F-14 still exists.
As for the dogfighting though .... we said the same things in the Korean War, and then had to replace a ton of F-4s due to cannon fire.
@@jonathanlunger2775 true, but the F22 isn't just invisible on radar and able to fling it's missles wherever it wants, it's also able to out maneuver anything in the skies currently.
what I'm trying to say is the only thing that could dogfight an f22 is another f22, ironically probably the only thing that can't be missiled down as well.
Thank you for your service.
I saw some of your videos and assumed that you either HAD to be in the military or at least have known someone in it. You are a patriot and I salute your for it.
In 2003 1 F22 took on 5 F15’s and the F15 pilots admitted that during the entire engagement they never even saw the F22 until they were already dead.
One pilot put it: “It was like clubbing baby seals”
Stop spreading the rumor already, it was confirmed by USAF to be false. Its a great plane, no need to exagerrate things.
@@xSintex it was never claimed by the usaf to be false, especially considering I watched the documentary of the usaf pilots say it. Lmao
I still don’t understand what that means! How do baby seals have anything to do with not being detected?! Plz help
@@silversamuri1737They were saying that the F22 taking them down, was comparable to hitting baby seals. Easy.
@@silversamuri1737 baby seals are defenseless they dont even try to run away they just sit there and let you kill them.
The F-15s were the baby seals the F-22 was the club.
The F-22 and F-35 relationship is like the Schwarzenneger Predator hunting you through the jungle while it also has a cloaked drone a mile away that isn’t fooled by mud. The F-22 tears you to shreds up close before you even know it is there, while the F-35, sluggish as it is, deletes you from 12 miles out.
Small correction unlike flares, chaff is an anti radar countermeasure. Though they usually pop it all at once regardless of the threat.
You don't pop all your chaff at once...
@Andromedon yeah bud? you fly military aircraft in real life? I was an avionics tech in the navy. I reckon my aviation warfare pin means I know more than some clown.
@@robomonkey1018 Your arrogance stinks.
What would popping ALL of your chaff do to benefit you? What if they fire again? You're SOL. My experience with this is the fact that the Viper has multiple settings for how much chaff and flare you dispense. Some instances, less, some more, some all at once.
Your absolute statement, to me, seems logically wrong. Though, I am open to being proven wrong...so enlighten me
@@Andromedon777 qualifications? Even falsified? Why do you think you know better?
@@robomonkey1018 I'd say they launch a few at a time, since the enemy can just fire again, tho against an F-22 they wouldn't get the chance to
The F-35 just covers more versatile roles. Basically can carry a lot more different types of munitions or payloads with VTOL options for Navy while still retaining a good stealth footprint.
"How good is the F-22?"
It's an Ace Combat protag's plane of choice. That should tell you how good it is if you're a nerd like me. Or like most of the air force.
I heard a story from a couple growler pilot buddies about a combat exercise taking place in Las Vegas area. A flight group of 15 planes of veriying models went up against either 2-5 f-22s, the f22s had been sent out about 30-45 minutes before the other squad. It only took 15 minutes for the f22s to "shoot" down all 15 planes with out ever being spotted on radar.
Just imagine how crazy good the F22's replacement they are working on is. that is truly terrifying.
To be fair it is time for a replacement, or at least a refresh. The F-22 platform is great, but its avionics and electronic warfare suite are now pretty dated and ourclassed by newer jets.
The F-22 replacement could already be out there, but has not been made public yet. Just like the F-22. By the time it was announced as in service, it had actually been in service for a few years.
“Show me on the doll where the f22 hurt you” had me choking on my spit it was so funny 😂😂😂
This guy is so underrated. Love the content.
The F-22A is essentially a Dark Souls boss on steroids.
The thing that makes me excited about the F-35 over the F-22 is that there were people saying the F-22 was high-priced trash and that the F-16 was just fine. I can't wait to see the F-35's real capabilities.
Who has ever called the F-22 "high priced trash"? I know I've heard people remark about how the F-35 is bottomless pit for tax payers dollars, but I've not heard anyone talk shit about the F-22, which was purpose built to replace the F-15 eagle for the air superiority role. I'm genuinely curious.
@@kellhound7227 watch a non-bised video on the f35
You know the funny thing is against pretty much everyone but maybe 2 non NATO countries the F-16 is just fine...and could even still be considered damn good against 95% of countries out there.
Which makes the 22 and 35 an absolute treat. We are playing Chess while everyone else is still trying to get the plastic wrap off of their checkers box.
@@kellhound7227 The so-called 'fighter mafia' the 'reformers' people who think our armed forces should be as primitive as the Russians. They get laughed out of every room that isn't an echo chamber when they display their stupidity.
"You would be reincarnated as an abortion." Oh god, that was so savage!!!!! Love it!!!
I was under the impression that the primary design limit on the top speed was the decision to not incorporate variable geometry inlets. The thinking was along the lines of, "the speed we can get out of fixed inlets is good enough for what we think it needs to do, and if we go much faster then stealth coating starts to degrade, and if we wanted to go faster, the weight of the required shtuff would hurt us in other areas, so lets call this good and move on."
...i mean if you didnt care about stealth... how much faster could you actually get, because there does come a point where the result of reaction time and movement time to respond to the threat becomes equivalent to if the person didnt register there was a threat. at that point it becomes a cost analysis of which is overall cheaper, slower and undetected or so fast it doesn't matter if its detected
@@nopejhonson958 The A-12 clocked in at Mach 3+, albiet at 70-80,000 ft. But between the time it takes to accelerate to those speeds to the special design features required for those speeds and limits on maneuvering at speed, there aren't really good reasons to do it.
So far as I understand, Lockheed was confident they could make stealth coatings that would survive at the higher speeds, but based on lessons from the F-14 and F-15, they didn't think they would need that speed.
Any thing above Mach 2 is overrated. Now getting up to speed, climbing, and retaining that energy is what really matters in a BVR fight and the Raptor slugs everything except the Typhoon which isn’t stealth anyway.
There was a Raptor pilot who described it best, “Hitting Mach 2 at high altitude in an F-15 is “very uncomfortable,” according to JB, as the engines start to struggle and the controls battle with the thin atmosphere. Meanwhile, the F-22 remains as smooth “riding in a limousine [or] like flying first class in a 787.” No surprise, then, that JB “spent more time supersonic in the first month of flying the F-22 than I had in my entire career up to that point.”
Now THAT is batshit insane. It accelerates and maneuvers at 50,000 feet like a normal fighter jet would at 25,000. That is by far the most impressive thing to any real pilot.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 I wonder how much of that smoothness is due to aerodynamic improvements, which so far as I understand do not typically work and play well with stealth requirements, and how much comes from the digital flight control smoothing things out before thee pilot can even feel it.
@@grimlock1471 I’ve wondered myself, but unfortunately I’m not an engineer, lol. Just a pilot.
Your comparison about it being a really enhanced F-14 Tomcat is a nice treat to the air force part of my mind. Thanks for that.
Watching the flight demo of that bird makes you question the laws of physics
Plus think about this. In that demo they are only showing what they are allowed to so. We all know the plane can do way more. Just on what we know I'm glad it's on our side.
What's most impressive is that in ALL demos, private or otherwise, the pilots are told NOT to show the Raptor's true capability. The only people who WOULD know about it would be the pilots theirselves or the ones currently pushing dasies. Oh, just realized @KingRipper407 basically said the same thing.
@@venomous2die4 even in training against other USAF pilots, they aren't allowed to use the plane to its full potential unless they are engaging other F-22's, lol.
The laws of physics are just a suggestion for the F-22.
If for some reason you managed to get the drop on a 22, which you wouldn’t, but let’s just say you did, it would do some magical bullshit power slide and you’d either be joining your buddies in the army or meeting them in hell before you even knew what happened
1:50 It's like "Peek-a-Boo!" with missiles...😂
In my ideal air strike package there are 35s for all the guidance/avoidance nonsense 22s and 23s for scoutind target locking 15ex and 16 xls for hauling as many radar guided career changers as possible
I think the original Idea was for them, F-22 and F-35s, were to be followed by a B-1 that had nothing but every type of missile in the inventory, and letting the stealthy boys provide target acquisition, and then the B-1 would blot out the sun, and then RTB to restock. But due to budgets the B-1 got the ax in favor of the next gen of stealth bomber or just to keep other things operational.
@@kellhound7227 Lancers are my favorite modern bomber.
“Radar-guided career changers.”
I love that and am shamelessly stealing it. 🤣
@@OneBiasedOpinion Quickest way to make a pilot want to be a grunt, because on the ground he has better chances of surrende....surviving.
@@kellhound7227 Ah, the B-1R, also known as the b-one-r
As someone who has actively fu*ked with F-22's, and I mean actually and physically been all up in the tailpipe in an unprofessional and decidedly mischevious manner (Hey Tyndall. If it hasn't been to Depot, I guarantee you haven't found that zap yet.) Lemme tell ya something!
Facts:
The F-16 is the most maneuverable. In a heads up dogfight, it'll eat any Gen-5 for lunch. Cut a 15 in half, and teach it ballet from the Van Damme school. And trust me, that half a jet will happily make any sap kind enough to fu*k around find out. It's the bee that the butterfly's wife went home with. It is the homework we share with our friends to show off.
The F-15E is the fastest. In the right configuration....it's the reason the F-22 worries about its paint peeling off. Longest range, biggest payload. It's what you get when you cross a Ram Truck with NASCAR, then roid it up. It's Rocky tap dancing with Dean Martin. It is not the jack of all trades. It is Jack's entire offensive line. The F-16 pilots say "Oh yeah. We can take an F-15 any day if we can get inside that radar undetected. But god damn that radar. And every time we get behind one they just punch afterburner, and see ya!"
The F-22 is the part of Captain America they don't have deleted scenes for. Take every aspect of the F-16's maneuverability, and cross it with all the lovin' spoonful of the F-15, and dip it in a vat of Nighthawk juice, then with a length of pipe force feed it the angriest Samsung Galaxy Note you ever got banned from a flight for bringing onboard. It will follow you on Tinder just so it can unfriend you. The F-15E pilots say "Yeah, we can take an F-22 on a clear day if we go to guns. But aside from visual, the damn thing is invisible. We can lock up missiles close up, but they're gone if you don't fire immediately. It's like trying to fight a magician inside the rabbit's hat, and the magician cheats."
In "I'm too scared to break our $200M toy" rules, the new guys in the 22's took us 30:1. After our senior pilot called the 22 Sqad's Commander a pu$$y, we got it down to 21:10. Our ace pilot taking 6 22's for himself while dying once. Kinda fun seeing a noob in an F-22 get all pissy with the crew after losing to a crusty old F-15. But this is fresh from flight school Pilot Trainees vs experienced, and a few Veteran fighter pilots. And they have better stats than the entire Russian Air Force already. By the time they graduate to an active combat base. There was a guy... this guy... This old seedy motherf*cker took us on in an F-4 Phantom 2 on 2. This thing was supposed to be a target/drone for missile practice, and this old Nam POW/MIA Vet in an F-F*CKING-4 Phantom II absolutely mopped the floor with our new guys. "I fought half of Vietnam with one hand tied behind my back." He said. "I am the reason Top Gun exists." Now imagine an F-22 pilot with a few thousand hours of sticktime... mother of god.
If the F-16 is John McClane, and the F-15 is John Rambo, then the F-22 is John Wick. (That motherf*cker in the F-4 had to be John Wayne.)
I wouldn't be surprised at all if some Crew Chief named his aircraft "Baba Yaga", "Chupacabra", or "Drederick Tatum".
To anything in the sky...well...Remember when you'd say your prayers at night, and then you'd jump under the sheets really fast, because you were scared the devil was under your bed and gonna grab your feet?...the F-22 is the Devil. Look under your bed...nothing there. In the closet...nothing there. Leave the nightlight on. Crack the door open. Drink a glass of water. What was that noise? Mom? ... ... Dad!? ... ... [creak] ... ... ... hello? ... ... ... ... .......... .. .. .. [muffled scream]
The only evidence were scratches on the floor leading under the bed, and the lingering smell of meth and war crimes.
I remember watching Growling Sidewinder videos about "F-22 very disrespectful Flanker" which exactly remake the F-4 case but with DCS Platform just to show a little glance on how Raptor capable to sneak behind the Flanker untill the player freaked out because it manage to sneak pass through AWACS and his radar
“Show me on the doll where the 22 hurt you” 😂…….soooo fucking funny!
ALSO, when the enemy is behind the F-22... it can lock on and aspect a missle into its rear quadrant.
Just imagine you finnaly get behind this thing and your EWS just starts freaking out.
Its like if a sniper settled his crosshair on a unaware target and just hears the soft locking of a bolt behind him.
“Show me on the doll where the F22 hurt you”!!!!! Might his best line ever!!!!
The Eurofighter Typhoon has Super-cruse as well. It can go Mach 1.5 with out afterburners.
Eurotrash can't into stealth tho
@@joshuafischer684 it actually has reasonably small radar cross section from the front. Which is pretty useful in a BVR fight or other intercept missions. Not true stealth, but small enough to make good use of their meteor missiles.
The Rafale and Gripen also can supercruise just about. Hell even the old F104 *could* supercruise technically, at mach 1.05 completely clean, though of course thats pushing the definition a bit.
Super-cruise is cool. It just doesn’t help much when a random bumblebee that also happens to be outrunning local sound waves slams an AMRAAM into you from behind a mountain range 80 miles away. Something the Typhoon has never had the ability to do.
@@joshuafischer684average American
This is already my favorite channel... But that " kill you so dead " punchline is the BEST thing I ever heard in my 43 years on this planet.... 🙉🙈🙊
Love your content , small correction. The SR 71 blackbird flew in afterburner the entire time, except when it was refueling. I believe when it was refueling, it kept one engine and afterburner the other one out of afterburner in order to slow down enough for the 135 to refuel it.
The afterburners couldn't be turned off, they shut off one engine entirely.
F-22 = Surprise knofe attack by an assassin in an alley
F-35 = "We saw you coming two days ago... And the airfield you left no longer exists. You might want to go find a new one before you run out of fuel."
I feel like the F-22 and the A-10 are terrifying for the exact opposite reason. The F-22 is scary because it's a heavily armed, highly maneuverable death machine that you won't see until it's on top of you. The A-10 is scary because you know exactly where it is, but also know it carries the most devastating ballistic weapon allowed in war, and if you can see it, there's a good chance that it sees you and is waiting for you to get into range
The a10 is also terrifying because it's an inaccurate piece of ship and you'd probably be better served using a crop duster with missiles slapped to it as CAS
@@anna-flora999 Yup. A-10 sounds amazing but it is extremely overrated. Idk why some people worship it so much when several other jets are better.
@@solo8734 Because:
1) It's just cool af
2) The GAU-8 Avenger can shoot 4000 depleted uranium White Claw cans in a minute, which means it can just blanket the area enough
3) It's pretty hard to take down without SAMs
4) It not only has the Avenger, but also a smorgasbord of bombs, missiles, and rockets with enough flares that if it is attacked, it can evade and remove the offending SAM from existence
@@warhistory1895you forgot the best part;
It's not a plane with a giant gun,
*it's a giant gun they built a plane around*
@@FractalNinja a gun bigger than a VW Beetle
"It'll kill you so dead that you'll be reincarnated as an abortion." That's just an incredibly specific, cold-blooded phrase in any language.
"...reincarnated as an abortion." OMG that is such a good line that I wrote it down! lol
“It’s like peekaboo, but with missiles” 😂😂😂
The concord could also super, not hyper, cruise, which meant it could sustain supersonic without afterburner. Unlike the worlds first SST, the TU-144, which only got out first because of the KGB and the fact that they just slapped parts together.
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The Northrop Grumman F-21 "Tomcat II" (that wasn't selected in favor of the much less capable F/A-18 "Hornet") was also capable of "Supercruise"...
It wasn't built, therefore we don't know whether it could or not.
The F-22 & the A-10 can really have fun in the air.
The funny thing its sensor systems is what makes it truly unstoppable.
It can see, fire, and leave before it even gets in to your radar range.
By the time the first missile hits it's already firing on its third target.
Oh and if there is anyone else that can see you they can talk to the 22 and give it target data. So it doesnt even have to see you to take you out.
The F-22 make Rooster reconsider if it's the plane or the pilot. XD
The scarier part?
We quit making them because we have a better monster waiting to use the assembly lines....
So difference between 4th and 5th gen are like between bicycle and motorbike. And when only few nations can even try to struggle to get the 5th gen aircraft. US is already on the finish of developing 6th gen?
Shit that's crazy
And that jet is known as the f-35
A number of years ago in a TV series about aerial warfare but I can't remember the name of right now, the author Tom Clancy said this about the F-22 "If the F-22 was a woman, she'd be Kim Basinger....just a beautiful beautiful woman"
That probably sums it up nicely....
Chaff and flares don't always work, so infrared is *still* your best bet even though it has countermeasures. Also, as I understand it, the F-35 can now see an F-22 coming via infrared before the F-22 can pick the F-35 up on RADAR. So Fat Amy might actually be the only gal able to get a drop on the Zodiac Killer.
Exactly, F-22 needs it's radar while F-35 can largely operate on passive sensors if it wants to
@@aidanwilliams9452 And as long as the f35 is facing the f22, it is more stealthy than the f22. It has a significantly reduced RCS at the front compared to the f22.
My daughter got me a grandpa buff shirt..I LOVE IT. MY first base was a BUFF BASE. STILL LOVE THEM . I used to chase parts for the C-17 cargo plane..love that fat moose. usaf vet
Though it isn’t very intimidating to use in russian bomber intercepts, normally after you confirm that the bomber has VID on you, you do a hard bank away to show the underbelly of your jet so the bomber can see all the heat you’re packing, but the 22’s weapons are all held internally, so it looks unarmed
Now imagine 20, 30, or 40 years from now...
Imagine an upgraded variant of the F-22, or a new jet that will replace it.
That'll be scary.
Couple of things. 1) It's called supercruise. 2) Even the heat seekers have issues locking on in their best situations. And 3) even overwhelming odds were almost not enough in a couple of war games against other NATO countries. I think the score was something like 56-1 with only 4 Raptors, and the 1 kill was an Apache that got lucky the 22 pilot underestimated them or something. But that's just what I've heard from a civilian standpoint.
Who was piloting that Apache, the Red Barron?
Oof an apache? That's embarrassing.
It's also so stealthy it has to have a reflective pod underneath it during peace time so others can even see it.
i mean the f22 isn't more capable than the f35, by definition the f35 is a multirole fighter and it'll replace most roles in the airforce
the f22 is the single best air superiority/interceptor plane atm (i adore the f15 but hey it's less advanced sorry)
Doesn't the F-35 also have VTOL capabilities?
@@Aredel thats the B variant but the VTOL system takes away other important payoad capability
I wonder if they'll still keep the F-22 around even after the NGAD fighter is put into service. If the F-22 is still leagues beyond its competion, I see no reason that having it still be around a problem. In fact it would be a great supplement to the new one.
@@joshuakhaos4451 the short answer is no, due to there being so few F-22s there are few spare parts around. It also will be old with alot of flight time on the airframes, meaning it will be forced to retire from raw usage. Then there is the issue of upgradablility. Remember that the F-22 was built with 90s tech, so modularity and upgradability weren't really a prime design feature. Its actually costing the USAF a whole lot of money now just to try to upgrade it to talk with modern tech.
“Scariest thing flying since the Cretaceous.”
I spit my drink across the room.
Awesome!!!! Best one liner... ever!!!
And here is what would scare the hell out of me, if I was Putin or Xi. In several area, the F-22 wasn’t as good as the FY-23 when competing for this massive contract. And these designs are over 30 years old now. I would be shocked if we aren’t incredibly close to a 6th Gen announcement.
I am perpetually saddened that the F-22 is no longer produced.
One hell of a supersonic bumblebee.
Damn just imagine in 50 years what will be out there that will consider F22’s flying rocket magnets.
Being fair, they're two TOTALLY different aircraft for two totally different roles and the only reason they can even be on lists comparing each other is that the lessons learned from the 22 were utilized as a baseline for the 35. Lockheed literally said "let's start at with the F-22" at the whiteboard for the JSF program.
It's like comparing a Toyota to a Koenigseg: the super enginered million dollar supercar is what you'll bring to the track, but the toyota is for literally *everything else*
"Cruise past the sound barrier" that sound fecking terrifying and amazing all at once. Holy heck
These things are also a pain in the ass for us engineers to work on.
Brilliant! Thank you, sir!
The fun thing with stealth radar across sections are designed to absorb or reflect high density frequencies used for targeting. However they are able to be tracked via low band frequencies that are unable to give exact coordinates of their location. So an enemy can notice the presence of a stealth fighter but not know where it is.
The F-22 is an amazing aircraft. Words can't do it justice.
I'll admit, I got into this channel because of the shorts but this guy's comedy is on fucking POINT.
I believe that in a war games exercise, Sweden actually managed to missle lock onto the F22 and "down it" with a radar guided missle. It was the only time it happened, though, because it was from above.
0:40 It's called Supercruise, and it's something jets have been doing since the early 1960s. Unless you mean it can do it at a fraction of max throttle, then that's something different, i know the absurdity of the F119 engines' power, i'm surprised they're not at all classified.
It's only more impressive given it's lack of transonic area ruling.
"Vibe Check."
-An F22, shortly after firing a missile and re-disappearing off radar
One of the biggest assets the F22 has is its radar system. It was explained to me by a professor at AFIT (Airforce Institute of Technology) that the F22 is basically a flying supercomputer and that it's radar allows it to see enemies LONG before enemies could even see them physically or on radar even AFTER the bay doors are open, possible even over the curvature of the earth (I could have that last bit wrong, it's been a long time since the lecture that covered that). That's why the F22 mission patch says (or said initially) "First Look, First Kill."
I saw this at an Air Show once... black. fucking. magic. It stopped in mid-air, casually turned around, turned BACK around, then started going... again.
Thank God it's on my side...
It’s almost like they’re two completely different planes with completely different roles. Who’d have imagined the air superiority fighter is better at dog fighting than a strike fighter.
When you mix the DNA of a cat for stealth, with the deviousness of a raven and the sheer mayhem of a cape buffalo, I guess you could be excused for being psychotic!😂😂
"Kill you so dead you are reincarnated as an abortion" - I lost it. 😂
She’s damn purty HLC. And she’s all ours.
F-22 is by far and away the best air superiority fighter out there. The F-35 outclasses it in sensor fusion, technology, and mulirole/strike capability. It's no slouch in the A2A regime either and will wax any 4th gen in a beyond visual range engagement.
A shame it will likely be replaced by NGAD before it ever sees combat. Unless we literally end up in WW3, the states will always feel like there hasn't been enough "fuck around" for that level of "find out" and they will sit on the 22 until it is no longer the scariest thing in the sky.
Both the F-22 and the F-35 can be detected by lower frequency radars but knowing something is there and being able to do something about it are VERY different things. To target something you need to be able to detect it with a Fire Control Radar. Fire Control Radars operate at significantly higher frequencies as they provide higher resolution( I'm using this as a catch-all for several attributes). This is where RCS (radar cross section) enters the conversation. The F-22 has an RCS about the same as a metal marble and the F-35 is about the same as a golf ball. The lock-on distance for both fighters is significantly less than the range of the weapons they carry.
BTW - Go Navy, Beat Army.
Awesome video🇺🇲😎👍, it would be great if the plane could see some action before it is fully retired.
The exhaust was designed to reduce heat signature, and to block the heat from more angles. It has little holes in the "nozzles" to force cooler air around the exhaust. There's also a coating, the contents of which are unknown for obvious reasons, to remove part of the heat signature. You do have 1 partial misconception though. You can see it on high fidelity radar, it's not invisible to radar. The issue is trying to get a target quality lock. It is true, however, that the F-22 has to be much closer to the radar in order to be spotted, let alone locked, relative to other fighters. By the time you do see it on radar, you are within AMRAAM range, under optimal launch conditions. By the time you can get a lock on the F-22, you are within the MAR (minimum abort range) of the AMRAAM (meaning you can no longer kinetically defeat the missile), and are crossing into sidewinder territory. As for SAM systems and radar, by the time you see the F-22 or F-35 you're within HARM range. Also, fun fact, the Golden tint on the F-22 is to reduce rcs. Radar can go through glass and bounce off the unstealthy interior of the cockpit. The engines are placed behind an S curved intake because spinning compressor blades have a huge rcs.
If a pilot gets to fly it then they're among the absolute best pilots of all time. America ain't gonna let just anyone play with her favorite toys
“Its like peekaboo but with missiles” best line i’ve heard about this thing ever. no one is going to beat that