I can personally say I've had an Enermax cooler after about 3 weeks of having Threadripper. I can for sure 100% say that the cooling was easily 10-15 degrees less by using enermax over the Kraken I had before. Yes 280 vs 360 obviously better cooling but man, just the piece of mind by having a full cover and seeing the temps never go above 50 at the most is amazing.
vdochev you can get it a lot cooler by using lower voltages, lapping the block and if you want to risk processor warranty the IHS as well and then applying liquid metal. all of that would definitely lower temps.
vdochev You can safely go up to 1.45V on 14nm with an AIO. That's 1.45V Vcore too, so depending on Vdroop and LLC level you might have to set it higher in the BIOS/Ryzen Master. It all depends on how cool you can keep things too and at up to 60C in this case, 1.4V is perfectly fine. As long as you're sub 80C in daily use, and that excludes maybe an hour or two of intensive work at say 85C, then it's fine to go up to 1.45V.
Hey Jay, could you revisit Threadripper cooling on a 2950X using the Enermax 360.....it seems like there is a TON of anti-Enermax sentiment as these coolers basically fail around month 6-8 of moderate usage. Shame really cuz there really isn’t any better AIO than this...until it dies & borks a System. Perhaps there are better AIO’s now with the 2950X? It comes down to attracting more entry-level Watercooling....vs going Air Cooling. If Enermax is failing and leaving a lot of ill-will out there it’s going to be a huge elephant in the room for entry-level watercooling to address.....especially since literally everyone is getting (and RMA-ing) this AIO all over the net....Amazon & Newegg patrons being particularly outspoken on the longevity of Enermax.
I can attest that version 1 definitely had this problem. Leaked a bunch after a few months. Unfortunately, it wasn't in use, so it wasn't noticed soon enough. Ended up needing to replace the psu, resolder a couple small spot on the mb that got corroded and were causing a grounding loop. Enermax claimed they would honor warranty, asked for the mb. Sent it back saying everything was fine (it wasn't, I had to fix it myself). Didn't warranty anything in the build that was damaged apart from the aio. Instead, they sent out a replacement for the liqtech, version 2. I left it sitting in the box for the past 6 months. I was tempted to do a video of smashing the replacement because they nearly destroyed an entire threadripper build. But I figured if it's been sitting in the box the last 6 months and hasn't leaked yet, maybe it's worth another shot. This time around, it's getting daily use in a clearly visible place. I might be a complete idiot if it leaks again. I'm betting my rig on enermax learning from their mistakes. Or alternatively, I'm betting my rig that a company that was stupid enough to not use corrosion-inhibitors in a mixed metal loop when *it's a well established danger* is going to somehow be smart enough to learn. I'm also surprised how quiet tech tube is about that whole thing.
This is so sad to read because I live in Brazil and there's no chance to RMA mine if it come to fail. Two weeks in a roll using it ever since and trying to get best on OC my 1950X. Hope it can last a couple of years. I mean this cooler. But thanks for the advice. If it fail I'll get right to the Dark Rock Pro 4.
Nice performance from that cooler! Even Noctua air coolers do a great job considering the amount of cores Threadripper has, I guess it's due to the large amount of surface area on the chip, and by fully covering it you get good results.
Jay, you're looking good! Glad that trainer of yours is helping you out what you want yourself to look like! Proud of you. Wish i could put myself though that level of pain.
Hey Jay, thank you for the water cooling loop for the pc. Showing how to do it. This is my fifth build but, the first for liquid cooling. My build is running at 75 F with the Thread dripper 950x. I went crazy expensive on this one. Only..., about 6 thousand. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Hey Jay. I just wanna say thanks for all the hard work and time that you put into your videos. It has kinda answered a question for myself that I didn't really know how to answer. I've been wanting to go back to school but I never could really figure out what for. I stumbled across your video on how to build a computer and I've been binge watching videos for a while now. I'm starting college in January for computer hardware engineering and your videos are a big part of how I decided on what to go for. So thanks again and keep up the good work.
I found your channel like two weeks ago, and i must say i´m impressed. You just seem like such an awesome guy. You´re videos are the best, and i wish you all the best Jay!
i also love enermax batwing fan because you can take the surrounding apart and vinyl wrap the enclosure around the fan blade,, LED swap mod, easy access to the fan blade and easy clean up on the fan. Enermax for the win for me.
I had an enermax 120 AIO that I bought in Japan when I lived there, and I loved it. I paired it with a 3770k and then 4770k and it was the best AIO I ever owned. I still like Enermax.
Hi Jay. Usually the pump is supposed to just be at 100% all the time. That's why there is a separate connector for the pump than the fans. You should not have the pump spinning up with the PWM CPU fans. I usually plug it into the PWR_FAN connector and/or make sure whichever connector is set to 100% constant in the BIOS.
I'd like to do a threadripper build myself, great to see the TR4 AIO's coming out. Wow those temps were low. I'd be interested to see this on a longer term test. My Ryzen 1700X had a wobble last week. Running on a Asus CH6 been OC all cores at 3.8 @ 1.375v since april and was running like a dream until it would not boot at all the other week. Mildest OC was throwing the toys out, and it even locked up in the bios. Thought this was going to be ab RMA job, but weirdly re-seating the ram seems to have solved the boot\crash problem. In my trouble shooting, I had updated the bios to 1701, now 1 in 5 boots I get 06 error code, and I have to boot again. Us ROG CH6 owners really need ASUS to sort out the bios on this board.
anikanbounty97 Fair comment tbh. I’ve always left it at that as at times I’ve ran at 4Ghz, but tbh mostly 3.8. Never pushed any further as always felt the bios were not mature enough to go for max OC
Foxconn sockets weren't letting the CPU be screwed in and some brands don't use foxconn some use them from both foxconn and lotus, some from just lotus, depends on the manufacturer
Not all foxconn sockets but yeah. Some of them had some manufacturing issues ranging from "mildly annoying" to "I can't actually use this". Lotes seems to not have had the issue. Not sure how many bad sockets are still out there. I own a Zenith myself and the Foxconn socket in it is definitely nowhere as smooth as the one from the board in this video, but also nothing as bad as the one Jayz had in his GBT board he alluded to.
A Jayz video without any major goof ups to mock? How dare you! ;) On a more serious note... GJ with this one. And wow, that Enermax is pretty impressive. Does better than I'd expect from an AIO.
Hi JayzTwoCents I built a ThreadRipper with almost same components at uni - got one of the Maths lecturers to give me a Java based algorithm - I ran 23 unique versions of it. Got CPU to 96%, fans to 60 to70% and temperature stayed under 55'C (not overclocked). Then we added a Titan X and ran GPU compute - the HPC guys love the machine! I love the Enermax 240 & 360. :-D
Idea for an upcoming episode Black Friday/ Cyber Monday build how good of a gaming pc can u get for $500-1000 using only on sale components from Amazon or Newegg(online available to everyone)
scrap wars is using parts from craigslist this would be parts that would be on sale for anyone pointing out that higher grade pc's can be put together alot cheaper when some research and some good one day deals come into play giving more bang for your buck
I'd recommend syncing radiator fan speed to water temperature. Radiator fans don't need to speed up unless the water gets hot. ASUS boards usually support some temperature sensor headers and you can stick a regular temp sensor between the radiator fins and get somewhat accurate reading of the water temperature. And ASUS UEFIs allow one to control the fan speed with external temp sensor connected to its headers. (Only CPU_FAN headers are hardwired to CPU temperatures. You can control CHA_FAN headers with CPU, MB, and temp sensors.)
Wow that’s actually not a bad price for performance for the threadripper consider other 360 AIO can run up to over 160 I was thinking since it isn’t a one size fits all type it would’ve been a little more expensive. I love this channel! Lol I’ve been subscribed since 2013
Running 1950x stock with radiator at the front, both fans & pump at 12v it hits 50+ degrees. Using 2x 1080ti Extreme, 140mm be quiet & 3x 120mm coolermaster fans. If I OC it to 4ghz, it'll hit 80+. H440 Raser case
as for the cooling surface, if you take that pump apart, the fins that the coolant runs through does not cover the hole block.if fact there is no coolant around the perimeter where the screws are. So you are still for the most part still only cooling the center of the cpu surface area.
This is amazing . It has the same full load temp as my ryzen 1600 oc'ed to 3.9 with the h115i . I must say that threadripper has alot oc potential with this aio.
Jay I just want to point out, because of the power efficiency of ryzen and the soldered dyes, all ryzen chips run really cool. At about 3.5/3.7ghz at anywhere below 1.3v, the individual cores use less than 10 watts each, actually around 8.5-9w depending on silicon lottery (note a 3.5/7 Intel kaby lake/coffee lake chip will use about 14~ watts per core) Also threadripper specifically is easier to overclock because it's binned of the top 5% of all zepplin dyes. That's actually why you can hit 4.2 on all 16 cores on the 1950x stable, granted that actually could start needing a 360 radiator to stay cool lol.
Now overclocking for a one-machine streamer :p 4-cores @4.5GHz or higher for a game in the foreground and the other cores at stock for encoding and streaming in the background. (Of course setting the process affinity in task manager might be necessary.)
Jay, the BMW benchmark isn't a particularly hard or modern test of hardware. Its just hard surf with materials. Big meh as it were. Try rendering one of the bench's with volumetrics or subsurf scatter and it'll push the cores much harder.
Just swapped out my NZXT X52 to a Liqtech TR4 280mm AIO. Also upgrading my case to a Coolermaster H500P. Now wishing I'd held off and gotten the 360mm....
That's a nice AIO for me, the only downside is its size but obviously, if you want to dissipate 500W you need to spread them somewhere, and going with a very thick 280 would lead to much the same size problems as of the 360
hey jay you should try to put your tube on the down side instead of on the top !! if you have air in your aio even if its a close aio system its almost imposible not to have air in the loop..... its will be hard on the pump and/or not have the greatest circulation of the fluid ;)
I found your comments about problems with the CPU very interesting - the real question is, when should we expect to see these issues resolved? As you say, the Aorus motherboard has a Foxconn retention system for the CPU, whilst the Asus motherboard uses a Lotus... I haven't purchased a system yet, but the Threadripper is better for me in terms of price vs performance compared to Intel's i9. Thing is, it seems strange to me that AMD would create two socket types for them when, clearly, one is causing so much trouble.
On a Threadripper heatspreader the heat isn't from the center though, there's 4 CPU dies under it, 2 of which are non functional. The standard cooler doesn't fully cover them so not only is the heatspreader not fully covered making for higher temps but the dies themselves are also not fully covered.
Overclocking of Threadripper is easier, because TRs (and Epycs) have better ASIC quality crystalls under the hood. Heard about it like a feature of high-end CPUs.
Hum, great video. But my issue with that cooler is that my case while it *can* support a 360 AiO I'd have to sacrifice the DVD drive to do so... The 240 one would be a option too I guess, but that seems a bit small for threadripper... A 280mm fan would be better for me really.
Hi Jay, could you run those tests again but change the orientation of the radiator, do you think you would see a temp change if it was turned 180 so that the pipes were at the bottom of the rad? or if the rad was propped like it was at the top of a case? I think this would be an interesting experiment, if you all ready know could you comment on next vid please. Keep up the great work mate, i love the vids.
its funny in a video the other day might have been a linus video, they were saying they could not see the point of the 1900 threadripper, when you factor the cost of the mainboards of the two different ryzens(threadripper v's ryzen7), and that the best choice is R7 1800 in terms of cost and the fact that 1900TR only has 8 cores and could not justify its exsistence. but if overclocking is your thing jay has just proved why it exsists and why its better than R71800, if it is easier to setup than R7 or R5 then there you go and 8 cores is plenty for even the majority of gamers.
Hey J, that mobo (ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E) in reality have power button, try searching a little black button in the cpu clock speed led right apart. You're welcome! Greetings from Costa Rica!
I would like to see a comparison between this AIO and the Noctua air cooler for TR with a long lasting load (1-2 hours?). See what happens when the water in the AIO heats up. I am sure that it will perform well but will it allow a higher clock frequency for long lasting loads?
Hey Jay, I have a 1950x that is only overclocked with the MSI software but my temp is running around 70 CE Under full load just running normally it's sitting at about 30 C I have a thermal grizzly thermal pad instead of thermal paste, custom water loop, GPU is normal temps.
Probably go un noticed cause its old but you should do a video going back and revisiting threadripper 1920x and see with all the bios updates how far you can push now and show the performance change since it came out.... im sure ppl would be interested to see the improvements that have been made.. :) plus alot of ppl are still using 1st gen tr4
I'm not surprised at the performance. Asetek stuff is garbage anyway. Enermax and their offshoot Lepatek are the best AIOs you can get and Liqtech is one of the most powerful coolers they build. Just look at the other and older AIO offerings they did for the AM3+/AM4 and Intel stuff. There's another guy who tested the Liqtech TR4 360 on a 1950X and got 4.250 GHz stable. I'll say it... You run Threadripper, it's either Enermax or EKWB. Hell, these might even be good for cooling and overclocking Threadripper's server counterpart, EPYC and overclocking those 32-cores past their defaults speeds into maybe the high 2.x GHz range or even into the 3.x GHz range.
I wonder if Threadripper had some early iterations of the things we can expect from the Ryzen refresh that's supposed to happen. Afterall, Ryzen was the "worst case scenario" for a launch (everything is new practically), so a bit of refining may lead to substantial improvements.
Yeah, those 360 rads are monsters... for my own upcoming 8700k I'm going with a fractal S36 rad in a Phanteks Pro M case. I'm expecting BIG performance out of this build. xD Too bad this Enermax rad doesn't come for Intel sockets (yet.. if it ever will!).
Because of the amount of time it takes for water in an AIO to heat up to running temps, your cinebench and even bmw Test we’re completely useless in terms of actual performance. Science Studio did a great video on this
*WHAT IS GOING ON RUclips, I CLICK THE LIKE BUTTON, IT WORKS (OR SO I THINK), THEN I COME BACK TO THE VIDEO LATER AND IT ISN'T LIKED ANYMORE! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Can you make a video about different softwares for testing (stressing) CPUs!? I noticed that you often (but not this time) use AIDA64 stress test for heating up CPUs but i would like to know why and how different softwares stress same CPU differently? For example, i get mu FX8300@4.9ghz up to 42-43c on the core and up to 53c on socket with AMD overdrive, but in AIDA64 cores don`t even reach 40c and 45c on socket... Then again, something like Intel burn test on very high setting takes cores to 55c with ease and socket stays in high 40s, but furmark cpu test takes socket temp in high 50s but cores stays in mid 40s... I don`t get it.. .WHAT TO USE FOR SAFETY/STABILITY COMBO!?
I love it, 2,380 as the score for Cinebench. Meanwhile my CPU gets about 300, the AMD A10-6700 @ 3.9GHz paired with a GTX 1050 SSC overclocked to 2,000MHz can actually run some older games really well. Such games includes Beamng.drive, Far Cry 3, GTA IV, Assassins Creed IV Black Flag, The Walking Dead Season 1 and 2 by Telltale Games, Skyrim, etc.
This AOI royally SCREWED ME OVER. Like, seriously, so many people have problems with this one. PLEASE UPDATE. It corrodes & degrades over time -- very, very quickly (~1 year) -- yet is twice as expensive as many other types of cooler. So its really bad.
Is it just me, or does Jay look thinner in this video than he ever?
+Ronnie Norris been working on my weight this month
Should put some Muscle on man! So you can lift a full rack server over your head!
I can tell. You looking good man. It really was the first thing I noticed.
Qardo instagram.com/p/BZ2VQVglNCo/
DAMN! Keep pumping iron bro!
I can personally say I've had an Enermax cooler after about 3 weeks of having Threadripper. I can for sure 100% say that the cooling was easily 10-15 degrees less by using enermax over the Kraken I had before. Yes 280 vs 360 obviously better cooling but man, just the piece of mind by having a full cover and seeing the temps never go above 50 at the most is amazing.
Threadripper: Dual 120 AIO and it stays nice and cool
Core i9: Triple 120 custom loop and still hits 70+
threadripper: .3 ghz overclock with very high end aio because its chip limited
core i9: get 1ghz oc on air
Sure...if you OC to 5.0+ on all cores.
59C it's pretty good for a 12 core 24 thread with that cooler, maybe I'll get one for Christmas, I approved the cooler!
*1.406 - not 1.46. Makes a difference ;)
Check Linus attempt of overclocking the core i9 day and night difference temperatures wise..
vdochev you can get it a lot cooler by using lower voltages, lapping the block and if you want to risk processor warranty the IHS as well and then applying liquid metal. all of that would definitely lower temps.
vdochev You can safely go up to 1.45V on 14nm with an AIO. That's 1.45V Vcore too, so depending on Vdroop and LLC level you might have to set it higher in the BIOS/Ryzen Master.
It all depends on how cool you can keep things too and at up to 60C in this case, 1.4V is perfectly fine. As long as you're sub 80C in daily use, and that excludes maybe an hour or two of intensive work at say 85C, then it's fine to go up to 1.45V.
Look at 9:58 DragooCubX its spikes up over 1.46v and if AMD master is saying 1.46v it's probably more like 1.52v under load that's a lot of volts.
Hey Jay, could you revisit Threadripper cooling on a 2950X using the Enermax 360.....it seems like there is a TON of anti-Enermax sentiment as these coolers basically fail around month 6-8 of moderate usage. Shame really cuz there really isn’t any better AIO than this...until it dies & borks a System. Perhaps there are better AIO’s now with the 2950X? It comes down to attracting more entry-level Watercooling....vs going Air Cooling. If Enermax is failing and leaving a lot of ill-will out there it’s going to be a huge elephant in the room for entry-level watercooling to address.....especially since literally everyone is getting (and RMA-ing) this AIO all over the net....Amazon & Newegg patrons being particularly outspoken on the longevity of Enermax.
if you have one , change the coolant asap it doesnt have anti corrosive
I can attest that version 1 definitely had this problem. Leaked a bunch after a few months. Unfortunately, it wasn't in use, so it wasn't noticed soon enough. Ended up needing to replace the psu, resolder a couple small spot on the mb that got corroded and were causing a grounding loop. Enermax claimed they would honor warranty, asked for the mb. Sent it back saying everything was fine (it wasn't, I had to fix it myself). Didn't warranty anything in the build that was damaged apart from the aio. Instead, they sent out a replacement for the liqtech, version 2. I left it sitting in the box for the past 6 months. I was tempted to do a video of smashing the replacement because they nearly destroyed an entire threadripper build. But I figured if it's been sitting in the box the last 6 months and hasn't leaked yet, maybe it's worth another shot.
This time around, it's getting daily use in a clearly visible place. I might be a complete idiot if it leaks again. I'm betting my rig on enermax learning from their mistakes. Or alternatively, I'm betting my rig that a company that was stupid enough to not use corrosion-inhibitors in a mixed metal loop when *it's a well established danger* is going to somehow be smart enough to learn.
I'm also surprised how quiet tech tube is about that whole thing.
This is so sad to read because I live in Brazil and there's no chance to RMA mine if it come to fail. Two weeks in a roll using it ever since and trying to get best on OC my 1950X. Hope it can last a couple of years. I mean this cooler. But thanks for the advice. If it fail I'll get right to the Dark Rock Pro 4.
Was about to pull the trigger on a v2 for my silent server. Now I'm a little hesitant.
2nd enermax liqtec 4 failed about 4 months in. Had to build a loop
Nice performance from that cooler! Even Noctua air coolers do a great job considering the amount of cores Threadripper has, I guess it's due to the large amount of surface area on the chip, and by fully covering it you get good results.
Yeah I fully agree, I mean I can understand it, but clearly full coverage makes a noticeable improvement.
Jay, you're looking good! Glad that trainer of yours is helping you out what you want yourself to look like! Proud of you. Wish i could put myself though that level of pain.
Hey Jay, thank you for the water cooling loop for the pc. Showing how to do it. This is my fifth build but, the first for liquid cooling. My build is running at 75 F with the Thread dripper 950x. I went crazy expensive on this one. Only..., about 6 thousand. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Hey Jay. I just wanna say thanks for all the hard work and time that you put into your videos. It has kinda answered a question for myself that I didn't really know how to answer. I've been wanting to go back to school but I never could really figure out what for. I stumbled across your video on how to build a computer and I've been binge watching videos for a while now. I'm starting college in January for computer hardware engineering and your videos are a big part of how I decided on what to go for. So thanks again and keep up the good work.
I swear i saw "This AIO is made for Threadripper, but can it run crisis"
I murder titans and scrub the f*ck out of floors! I want an aio that can run crisis
I found your channel like two weeks ago, and i must say i´m impressed. You just seem like such an awesome guy. You´re videos are the best, and i wish you all the best Jay!
i also love enermax batwing fan because you can take the surrounding apart and vinyl wrap the enclosure around the fan blade,, LED swap mod, easy access to the fan blade and easy clean up on the fan. Enermax for the win for me.
I had an enermax 120 AIO that I bought in Japan when I lived there, and I loved it. I paired it with a 3770k and then 4770k and it was the best AIO I ever owned. I still like Enermax.
Hi Jay. Usually the pump is supposed to just be at 100% all the time. That's why there is a separate connector for the pump than the fans. You should not have the pump spinning up with the PWM CPU fans. I usually plug it into the PWR_FAN connector and/or make sure whichever connector is set to 100% constant in the BIOS.
Thats a nice new heater you've got there to keep you warm in the winter
I'd like to do a threadripper build myself, great to see the TR4 AIO's coming out. Wow those temps were low.
I'd be interested to see this on a longer term test.
My Ryzen 1700X had a wobble last week. Running on a Asus CH6 been OC all cores at 3.8 @ 1.375v since april and was running like a dream until it would not boot at all the other week. Mildest OC was throwing the toys out, and it even locked up in the bios. Thought this was going to be ab RMA job, but weirdly re-seating the ram seems to have solved the boot\crash problem.
In my trouble shooting, I had updated the bios to 1701, now 1 in 5 boots I get 06 error code, and I have to boot again. Us ROG CH6 owners really need ASUS to sort out the bios on this board.
anikanbounty97 Fair comment tbh. I’ve always left it at that as at times I’ve ran at 4Ghz, but tbh mostly 3.8. Never pushed any further as always felt the bios were not mature enough to go for max OC
This was the first time I was happy to see an add on a RUclips video since it was my first in about a year
I was just getting off the toilet when he said " we overclock everything, including our toilets".😂😂
Wait, I’m not to this part yet but I’m on the toilet rn
Glad to see that your 1920x survived from that foxconn socket.
noob here
What exactly is wrong with the foxconn sockets and do only some brands use it?
Foxconn sockets weren't letting the CPU be screwed in and some brands don't use foxconn some use them from both foxconn and lotus, some from just lotus, depends on the manufacturer
Not all foxconn sockets but yeah.
Some of them had some manufacturing issues ranging from "mildly annoying" to "I can't actually use this". Lotes seems to not have had the issue. Not sure how many bad sockets are still out there.
I own a Zenith myself and the Foxconn socket in it is definitely nowhere as smooth as the one from the board in this video, but also nothing as bad as the one Jayz had in his GBT board he alluded to.
FYI, it's LOTES (all caps) not lotus. :P
Seems like Foxconn's main issue is that their screw holes aren't countersunk like Lotes'.
Toilet Overclocking guide next please!
Cant wait for the post malone build!
Dooope! I just saw him in concert too!
Post malone sent him a tweet and they had little chat and after that it went to DM/s :) You can look u jayz tweet hisory etc
Who the fuck is post malone?
Josh Montano | lolooo
Josh Montano and who are you?
A Jayz video without any major goof ups to mock? How dare you! ;)
On a more serious note... GJ with this one. And wow, that Enermax is pretty impressive. Does better than I'd expect from an AIO.
Nice video, Jay. That block is huge!
Hi JayzTwoCents I built a ThreadRipper with almost same components at uni - got one of the Maths lecturers to give me a Java based algorithm - I ran 23 unique versions of it. Got CPU to 96%, fans to 60 to70% and temperature stayed under 55'C (not overclocked). Then we added a Titan X and ran GPU compute - the HPC guys love the machine! I love the Enermax 240 & 360. :-D
Used the OstROG ADV case: www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_1&lv0=2&lv1=9&no=328
It was quite relaxing just watching the temps ryzen.
Idea for an upcoming episode Black Friday/ Cyber Monday build how good of a gaming pc can u get for $500-1000 using only on sale components from Amazon or Newegg(online available to everyone)
Do this live for bonus points so viewers can buy-along :) (with affiliate links for easy cashgrabs)
So LTT scrap wars?
scrap wars is using parts from craigslist this would be parts that would be on sale for anyone pointing out that higher grade pc's can be put together alot cheaper when some research and some good one day deals come into play giving more bang for your buck
"available to everyone" sadly not, only for ppl living in the US.....
I'd recommend syncing radiator fan speed to water temperature. Radiator fans don't need to speed up unless the water gets hot.
ASUS boards usually support some temperature sensor headers and you can stick a regular temp sensor between the radiator fins and get somewhat accurate reading of the water temperature. And ASUS UEFIs allow one to control the fan speed with external temp sensor connected to its headers. (Only CPU_FAN headers are hardwired to CPU temperatures. You can control CHA_FAN headers with CPU, MB, and temp sensors.)
Wow that’s actually not a bad price for performance for the threadripper consider other 360 AIO can run up to over 160 I was thinking since it isn’t a one size fits all type it would’ve been a little more expensive. I love this channel! Lol I’ve been subscribed since 2013
2:51 that did not go unnoticed Jay
Awesom piece of hardware! Very nice Enermax!!!
Running 1950x stock with radiator at the front, both fans & pump at 12v it hits 50+ degrees. Using 2x 1080ti Extreme, 140mm be quiet & 3x 120mm coolermaster fans. If I OC it to 4ghz, it'll hit 80+. H440 Raser case
as for the cooling surface, if you take that pump apart, the fins that the coolant runs through does not cover the hole block.if fact there is no coolant around the perimeter where the screws are. So you are still for the most part still only cooling the center of the cpu surface area.
We need to see comparisons between this aio and the asetek in both stock and oc as far as they go
I once overclocked coke to remove the bottleneck...
jerry bomcool haha. good one
For some, coke overclocks them
I agree, me included but only the Russian kind ;) haha
@@jerrybomcool I once overclocked while on coke.
Anthony Manenti 🤣🤣 can’t even remember commenting this! WTF. But good reply GG
Thanks for showing us OUT OF THE BOX THERMALS Jay.
two weeks ago I installed one of these, I do have to say its quite, cools very well. only concern I have is the failures I have read about
i love u bro, me too overclock anything! RESPECT
Also I'd like to see a test run for 30-60 mins as coolant temps generally take a little bit to warm up to their max unlike air.
Im extremely happy with my r7 1700, runs bloody great
This is amazing . It has the same full load temp as my ryzen 1600 oc'ed to 3.9 with the h115i . I must say that threadripper has alot oc potential with this aio.
Jay I just want to point out, because of the power efficiency of ryzen and the soldered dyes, all ryzen chips run really cool. At about 3.5/3.7ghz at anywhere below 1.3v, the individual cores use less than 10 watts each, actually around 8.5-9w depending on silicon lottery (note a 3.5/7 Intel kaby lake/coffee lake chip will use about 14~ watts per core)
Also threadripper specifically is easier to overclock because it's binned of the top 5% of all zepplin dyes. That's actually why you can hit 4.2 on all 16 cores on the 1950x stable, granted that actually could start needing a 360 radiator to stay cool lol.
Idk what it is but Jay just looks better than he usual does, not saying that he doesn't always look good he does but he looks even better than usual 😍
Now overclocking for a one-machine streamer :p
4-cores @4.5GHz or higher for a game in the foreground and the other cores at stock for encoding and streaming in the background. (Of course setting the process affinity in task manager might be necessary.)
Jay, the BMW benchmark isn't a particularly hard or modern test of hardware. Its just hard surf with materials. Big meh as it were.
Try rendering one of the bench's with volumetrics or subsurf scatter and it'll push the cores much harder.
Could you sometimes display down the temperature from Fahrenheit to Celsius????
Very nice looking AIO..
Is the pump quiet? Idle and/or under load
Just swapped out my NZXT X52 to a Liqtech TR4 280mm AIO. Also upgrading my case to a Coolermaster H500P. Now wishing I'd held off and gotten the 360mm....
You should look into Enermax's cases. I have the Ostrog ADV, and I really love it!
Lookin' good! Nice rig. Thanks for the video
That's a nice AIO for me, the only downside is its size but obviously, if you want to dissipate 500W you need to spread them somewhere, and going with a very thick 280 would lead to much the same size problems as of the 360
"we overclock everything, even our toilets." - JayzTwoCents
:D
You only need to overclock your toilets if you overshit in them!
Thanks for the vid cause im going to do a build like this and wanted a AIO. Do more with thread ripper AIOs
Awesome video Jay!
I really wish you would have made the video 3 seconds longer for 1337 xD. Either way those temps are super impressive for an OC'd threadripper. Nuts.
5:40 love the sound effect nice touch.
hey jay you should try to put your tube on the down side instead of on the top !! if you have air in your aio even if its a close aio system its almost imposible not to have air in the loop..... its will be hard on the pump and/or not have the greatest circulation of the fluid ;)
I found your comments about problems with the CPU very interesting - the real question is, when should we expect to see these issues resolved? As you say, the Aorus motherboard has a Foxconn retention system for the CPU, whilst the Asus motherboard uses a Lotus...
I haven't purchased a system yet, but the Threadripper is better for me in terms of price vs performance compared to Intel's i9. Thing is, it seems strange to me that AMD would create two socket types for them when, clearly, one is causing so much trouble.
On a Threadripper heatspreader the heat isn't from the center though, there's 4 CPU dies under it, 2 of which are non functional. The standard cooler doesn't fully cover them so not only is the heatspreader not fully covered making for higher temps but the dies themselves are also not fully covered.
pretty good considering the aio limitations.
Using the Liqmax II 240 with Ryzen 7 1700X @4Ghz. It was one of the first to come out with AMD4 mounting hardware included.
I'm running the enermax 300ml pump res combo and like it. Other than the out put port being on the back.
Overclock everything.... Thats a new slogan 👍👍👍👍
a few comparisons with other AIO's could have been neat. but nice review!
Overclocking of Threadripper is easier, because TRs (and Epycs) have better ASIC quality crystalls under the hood. Heard about it like a feature of high-end CPUs.
Hum, great video.
But my issue with that cooler is that my case while it *can* support a 360 AiO I'd have to sacrifice the DVD drive to do so...
The 240 one would be a option too I guess, but that seems a bit small for threadripper...
A 280mm fan would be better for me really.
Hi Jay, could you run those tests again but change the orientation of the radiator, do you think you would see a temp change if it was turned 180 so that the pipes were at the bottom of the rad? or if the rad was propped like it was at the top of a case?
I think this would be an interesting experiment, if you all ready know could you comment on next vid please.
Keep up the great work mate, i love the vids.
its funny in a video the other day might have been a linus video, they were saying they could not see the point of the 1900 threadripper, when you factor the cost of the mainboards of the two different ryzens(threadripper v's ryzen7), and that the best choice is R7 1800 in terms of cost and the fact that 1900TR only has 8 cores and could not justify its exsistence.
but if overclocking is your thing jay has just proved why it exsists and why its better than R71800, if it is easier to setup than R7 or R5 then there you go and 8 cores is plenty for even the majority of gamers.
Hey J, that mobo (ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E) in reality have power button, try searching a little black button in the cpu clock speed led right apart. You're welcome!
Greetings from Costa Rica!
I didn't know this company existed! Thank you for the vid :)
I would like to see a comparison between this AIO and the Noctua air cooler for TR with a long lasting load (1-2 hours?). See what happens when the water in the AIO heats up. I am sure that it will perform well but will it allow a higher clock frequency for long lasting loads?
nice Cooler,neat Temps
Hey Jay, I have a 1950x that is only overclocked with the MSI software but my temp is running around 70 CE Under full load just running normally it's sitting at about 30 C I have a thermal grizzly thermal pad instead of thermal paste, custom water loop, GPU is normal temps.
Probably go un noticed cause its old but you should do a video going back and revisiting threadripper 1920x and see with all the bios updates how far you can push now and show the performance change since it came out.... im sure ppl would be interested to see the improvements that have been made.. :) plus alot of ppl are still using 1st gen tr4
I'm not surprised at the performance. Asetek stuff is garbage anyway. Enermax and their offshoot Lepatek are the best AIOs you can get and Liqtech is one of the most powerful coolers they build. Just look at the other and older AIO offerings they did for the AM3+/AM4 and Intel stuff. There's another guy who tested the Liqtech TR4 360 on a 1950X and got 4.250 GHz stable.
I'll say it...
You run Threadripper, it's either Enermax or EKWB. Hell, these might even be good for cooling and overclocking Threadripper's server counterpart, EPYC and overclocking those 32-cores past their defaults speeds into maybe the high 2.x GHz range or even into the 3.x GHz range.
I wonder if Threadripper had some early iterations of the things we can expect from the Ryzen refresh that's supposed to happen.
Afterall, Ryzen was the "worst case scenario" for a launch (everything is new practically), so a bit of refining may lead to substantial improvements.
They definitely slightly improved overclocking on Ryzen Threadripper, that and they binned the best chips for it.
Its a tripple but it looks so thin, I would like to see a thicker model be released.
Yeah, those 360 rads are monsters... for my own upcoming 8700k I'm going with a fractal S36 rad in a Phanteks Pro M case. I'm expecting BIG performance out of this build. xD Too bad this Enermax rad doesn't come for Intel sockets (yet.. if it ever will!).
TR should be easier to OC. TR chips are binned, best of the best Zen cores. I would expect all variations to hit 4.0 (possibly higher) on all cores.
Amazing cooler !
You should add conversion of farehneits to celsius at least as text into video. that would be much of a help.
Doody cycle is what Jay rides when he realizes halfway through a workout he left the oven on.
Because of the amount of time it takes for water in an AIO to heat up to running temps, your cinebench and even bmw Test we’re completely useless in terms of actual performance. Science Studio did a great video on this
*WHAT IS GOING ON RUclips, I CLICK THE LIKE BUTTON, IT WORKS (OR SO I THINK), THEN I COME BACK TO THE VIDEO LATER AND IT ISN'T LIKED ANYMORE! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Can you make a video about different softwares for testing (stressing) CPUs!? I noticed that you often (but not this time) use AIDA64 stress test for heating up CPUs but i would like to know why and how different softwares stress same CPU differently? For example, i get mu FX8300@4.9ghz up to 42-43c on the core and up to 53c on socket with AMD overdrive, but in AIDA64 cores don`t even reach 40c and 45c on socket... Then again, something like Intel burn test on very high setting takes cores to 55c with ease and socket stays in high 40s, but furmark cpu test takes socket temp in high 50s but cores stays in mid 40s... I don`t get it.. .WHAT TO USE FOR SAFETY/STABILITY COMBO!?
It's been a long time since I wanted something just to have it, but damn, TR4 is tempting.
I use push pull. My cpu has never reached 41 degree. But it does reach 40 under stress test. Love my new h100 v2 that I got last week.
My Foxconn socket was a real pain on my 1950x.
I love it, 2,380 as the score for Cinebench. Meanwhile my CPU gets about 300, the AMD A10-6700 @ 3.9GHz paired with a GTX 1050 SSC overclocked to 2,000MHz can actually run some older games really well. Such games includes Beamng.drive, Far Cry 3, GTA IV, Assassins Creed IV Black Flag, The Walking Dead Season 1 and 2 by Telltale Games, Skyrim, etc.
what I want to know is did the added surface area of the cooling block make the difference? would a normal sized cooling block perform the same?
i overclocked my toilet yesterday and it improved perfomance by 60% it can finally flush my huge dumps
59°C Tctl + 27 °C = 86°C Tdie. Looks like CPU started throttling back. (Or could it be that the cooler is that good?)
That great 8:16 "Sun Melt Waves" Track :D
Love your vids Jay❤️
Greetings from Germany
4.2ghz is a given on a liqtech and 1920X... 4.4Ghz is possible with 1900X, 1950X seems to like 4.125+ ghz on these tr4 dedicated aio's..
Digging the music Jay lol
Does those foam pads really help damping the sound in the room? I'm thinking of doing the same thing in my living room.
I always get jealous of the boxes in the background, i need new parts ;( stuck with a Radeon HD 6950.
Why not use Prime95 for heat testing? That's what I do when I am testing performance post overclock
This AOI royally SCREWED ME OVER. Like, seriously, so many people have problems with this one. PLEASE UPDATE. It corrodes & degrades over time -- very, very quickly (~1 year) -- yet is twice as expensive as many other types of cooler. So its really bad.