Ford CEO Jim Farley on new Ford-Tesla EV partnership: It's a bet for our customers
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2023
- Ford CEO Jim Farley joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the company's new partnership with Tesla, where Ford owner will be granted access to thousands to Tesla superchargers across the U.S. and Canada starting early next year, how the alliance was forged, and more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: cnb.cx/2NGeIvi
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You might be rivals, but chargers are something any EV's needs.Kudos to Jim and Elon for putting their competitive natures aside and working together on something everyone needs
Jim needs this. Elon has always stated that they’d open the supercharging network to non-Tesla EV’s so it was only a matter of time.
Work together to step on the world 👹
@@MrElemonator Poor little MrElemonator, always playing the vicitm.
I don’t need it petrol all the way
I really don't think they were ever "rivals" Teslas mission statement is "to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport" Tesla embraces all automakers to convert to sustainable transport and has openly stated several times they will partner with them to do so. I don't think that means rivalry, Elon doesn't want to destroy the legacy brands, he just wants them to start being honest, and work together with all of them.
Smartest move FORD could have done in years.
It's "The smartest move Ford COULD have done years ago!!"
@@rogerstarkey5390Teslas patent on their charger only recently went available
Even better move by Tesla. GM better follow suit.
Indeed. Henry Ford himself would've likely approved.
That or die. Took them long enough.
As a CEO, he impresses me more and more. He doesn't attempt to spin reality but embraces it, tries to learn and adapt to it. Many CEO's deserve the bashing and criticism they get but I see him as trying to create a win-win for his company, his workers and consumers. Best of luck to Ford.
Is it really No. 2 really? Is it a distant number 2?
He doesn't sound impressive though..
Ford would benefit from spending some speech coaching if he's going to be the face of the things. Sounds very nervous.
As Elon states, Ford and Tesla are the only two American car companies that haven't declared bankruptcy.
@@rkanagala that does seem like some spin - I don't see how it can be true if we are talking full EVs.
While so many other legacy auto companies still have their head in the sand, Farley sees the writing on the wall and is determined to stay in the game.
smart move by Farley
Sorry but we won’t be able to build EVs at scale much longer. We are losing Russia and China, there’s no EV revolution without them.
and its so easy to see, makes ya wonder why the other cant see it.... or do they choose not to see because of political reasons.
@@kevo212
Smart move by Elon (10 years ago)
Inevitable, now necessary move by Jim (5+ years late)
@@rogerstarkey5390 Farley is taking advantage of the Tesla charging network for a few years to promote his cars but it won't last. As soon as the independent charging networks get their act together this agreement will be history. He's playing Musk.
I’m a Tesla owner and the Tesla superchargers are well located, simple to use and fast. All the other charging systems are unreliable, poorly located and clunky.
I have not had one problem charging with EVGO in my travels…. When I say not one, I mean never ever any issues.. all have worked..
Good to hear you had a good experience with EVGO. I’m familiar with it but Tesla Superchargers are even better. I literally pull up to the Tesla supercharger, I plug in my car, the supercharger station recognizes my car and immediately starts charging my car to charge it…sometimes up to 800mph but averages around 400. When I say it’s easy, I mean it’s so damn easy it’s pathetic.
And they're ran by some half-ass company in for a money grab with zero urgency in servicing their stations. My chargers at work are owned by ChargePoint. 1/2 are unreliable and stop charging randomly. They also allow people to book the charger remotely....wtf?! I'll see a few spots open but none can be used cause someone's been "assigned" to it only to free up cause that person never shows up. They're a joke. I hope these companies go away
@@DescartesRenegade
Imagine if the government FINES that company and transfers the cash to where it can be used effectively?
Let’s hope these Ford owners don’t ruin a good thing.
The anecdote about telling his kids "no we're going to go over here behind this building" was pretty funny.
😂
Amazing news! After buying a mach-e and realizing how bad the ev charging network is, i started to doubt my decision. But this definitely gives me hope!
Yes it's good for Ford customers. In terms of dominance this position the firm's appropriately. Tesla is clearing the board of value. Expect an FSD deal. Ford does not have the resources to execute on it.
You should still buy a Tesla.😀
Wow. Good point. As soon as Tesla has Self driving and no other car company has it, they are going to have to buy it from Tesla for their own cars. The only other company right now, that comes to mind concerning self driving is Mercedes. They have government certified level 3 self driving in Germany.
to think you could've just got a Tesla and never had to be bailed out
You won't need the charging station much longer if they release the new solar tech NASA has been hiding from the world.
What they right now will make EV charging stations obsolete.
Elon knows this. This partnership might be a save from Elon or what ever.
Solar is coming whether they like it or not.
Some people who own teslas are already doing it.
Finally an auto CEO with common sense
Get a clue
Sounds like no sense to me.
Ford will go bankruptcy in the next 5 years
Because of 3:08 😂 he knew right then and there
If he had common sense, he wouldn't be ELIMINATING the stuff all plants eat, out of our environment. #BrawndoIsGoodForPlants and the entire EV market is based on the ignorance of the public. JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIE IDIOCRACY.
Finally a CEO that listens to his kids
I think the Ford CEO just said even his kids wanted them to be able to use the huge Tesla supercharger network. It just works and in the rare times when it doesn't the Tesla system automatically notifies their technicians so they can fix that location quickly. The various companies that designed the CCS1 standard got something that works but those chargers are not installed to the same locations or in the same quantities nor are they maintained to the same level that Tesla's chargers are. Charger reliability and availability in the locations you want to use a charger is hugely important to the uptake of EVs.
Sure, that's the only thing Tesla does, nothing to focus on but the EV's and the peripheries
A big win for the EV community!
You did it Mary! 😂😂
The EV community doesn’t understand the disrespect their money brings to the less fortunate 🤡
@@MrElemonator eventually everyone will be able to afford EV. It’s still new technology
@@MrElemonator Nokia said the same about Apple and here we are.
@@mikafiltenborg7572 LOLOLOL!!!
Musk could easily have closed the door on Ford. He should be credited accordingly for being a visionary along with Legacy Ford credibility
Indeed I wonder how the Elon/Tesla haters are going to spin this one 😂
More like it's a smart business decision. He isn't doing this out of the kindness of his heart.
Both sides have a point here. This is great for Ford but it is also great for Tesla, who will be making a lot of money selling power.
Tesla is losing so much money on those superchargers that they are FORCED to get any business that they can.
What people forget is Tesla was never intended to take over legacy automotive companies, it's goal was always to push up the timeline of the switch to EV's. This move makes perfect sense from that standpoint and Ford is ensuring they survive the switch with this move. It also shows how important using the car and network is personally to make decisions, if Jim didn't drive an ev and use the network he would not have made this decisions cause on paper the other networks are pretty comparable to Tesla. In practice it's not even close.
2:55, “no kids, we’re going over here behind this building”. 😂
😅
Great news for Ford.
Jim Farley is a great leader.
You did it Mary! 😂🎉
lmao
@@mikafiltenborg7572 You led Mary! You electrified the entire…..! Uhhh…. Well… Anyway…
All Evidence suggests that Elon Musk is "a great leader"..... Jim is doing his job, finding a solution to a difficult problem.
He's lucky the the solution, which has been on offer for 10 years(!) is still available.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Jim Farley is very lucky Elon is cool. You have to ask yourself, would he open up his supercharging network to Elon if TESLA needed it?
Definitely a win-win. Jim Farley is the best CEO in the legacy auto business and he gives me confidence that Ford will remain solidly in the forefront of building great cars and trucks. The reliability of the Tesla supercharger network will definitely help Ford accelerate the transition to an electric future.
what happens when tesla decides not to renew the deal? Tesla will basically own ford
@@stephenlflf3871 I think Ford's lawyers are better than you give them credit. At worst, Ford drivers will go back to only using the CCS charging networks, same as the other car makers.
Ford is actually making good moves, their EVs are selling and now they have a charging infrastructure to help sell even more EVs
@@stephenlflf3871 NACS is now an open standard.
@@stephenlflf3871
I'm going to make a prediction.
Tesla will say something along the lines of:-
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Here are the patents.
PLAY NICE.
Build your own superchargers!
Brand them as yours,
Take the grant money,
Take the profits,
Provision, they MUST be open to all, at the same price, based on common software!
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You can extract / firewall your billing data to prevent "poaching" (it should be simple to have a common clearing system similar to credit cards?)
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Condition?
WE (Tesla) supply the battery backup system.
We take a SMALL fixed percentage markup on the energy we supply (at a very competitive rate).
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Then, Tesla uses the Megapacks (overkill!) to provide grid balancing.
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They make an absolute fortune doing so.
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Remember "energy will be a big as vehicles"?
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Everyone gets a great deal. Charging becomes simple, cheap, ubiquitous.
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Feasible?
Translation:
We got access to 10k chargers now but only 5 of them really work. So now we have access to 12005 working chargers.
i've never had an issue with EA or charge point chargers
Now that's funny...and so true! Good one!
@@DisloyalOrder3 You must not own a non-Tesla
😂
17,000 Tesla superchargers
I own a Tesla and although I don’t want more crowds at superchargers, this is the right move for the industry and will actually make me more confident should I choose to buy a ford EV.
Charging networks were underrated as a competitive advantage. I hope this deal expands the tesla network.
Exactly!!
Longer charge times and more expensive over time, most likely. But wait til the blackouts hit 😂
Volkswagen would sack their CEO for this.
they did, VW sent Diese to a Russian GULAG .
Which is precisely why they will fail.
Hot got sacked for the software problems. Auto makers need to use all open source software and control all the code. Musk understood this right away, other auto makers think they can contract it out or buy Microsoft stuff.
The Tesla connector is better - and easier to plug in - but to me that's only a few seconds of inconvenience. The real positive of the Tesla supercharger - is that it works. It never craps out, or has problems connecting - it starts charging within 3-5 seconds of plugging in, etc.
Tesla superchargers have ~95% reliability rate, not 100%. But definitely better than any other charging network.
@@tomdrewenskus8167I've never run into an unreliable Tesla charger. So to me, and to the poster, it's 100%. This is what's important, the subjective experience.
@@tomdrewenskus8167 you forgot a 9. It's 99.5%
I've never been to a Tesla charger that didn't work. I am convinced they do not exist.
@@tomdrewenskus8167 Tesla Superchargers are generally considered to be very reliable. In 2022, Tesla reported that the average uptime of Supercharger sites was 99.95%. This means that, on average, Supercharger sites were only down for 0.05% of the time.
As someone who has owned a Tesla for the past 3 years and just bought a Rivian, I wholeheartedly support this plan. My Rivian is 2 weeks old and if Rivian offered an NACS version of their vehicles with seamless access to the Supercharger network, I would literally order that new vehicle right now and eat the cost I've lost. That's how much I love NACS + Supercharger.
Well if they partner-up then they can have same plugs, perfecting the quality of products, they can apply about same charging rates, thru partnerships extend & expand the charging network so eventually we all going to benefit from such alliances .. i would think that if Ford get allies like Tesla, Rivian, Rimac & Geely they will be unstoppable all over the world !
I’ve seen the Rivian on the road. My goodness, they have quite a road presence.
Rivian should just partner with the Tesla network...
You must be doing very well to afford a Tesla for three years then buy a Rivian. America us the land of opportunity. Good job
Glad to hear that Ford will supply their customers with an Adapter to enable conversion to NACS and they will not be left out as other standards fall into further distress.
I suspect the adaptor is the Magic Dock connector minus the locking mechanism for the Tesla charger, and will be supplied by Tesla.....
The other charging companies have screwed the pooch by not keeping the equipment working at all time. People don't want to gamble whether they will be able to charge up or not on a trip. Tesla has shown they know the importance of equipment upkeep.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Its not, this is for every supercharger. You can now bet the Magic Dock experiment has ended.
@@zoltrix7779
It is.
Understand how it works.
The Magic Dock is a "dumb" adapter between the Tesla plug, and a CCS1 car socket.
This adapt will be ..... "an adapter between the Tesla plug, and a CCS1 car socket"
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The ONLY difference is that "Magic Dock" normally resides in the "dock" of the *charger cabinet* and is released by the charger when the user indicates "not a Tesla" on the App.
The "Ford" adapter will be owned by the user, never connected to the charger cabinet and the "handshake" will probably be done automatically.
It will still have precisely the same "ends". (Tesla Female in, CCS1 male out)
My original statement was "off". I forgot that the lock on the Tesla is in the vehicle so the lock is in the charger dock, not the Magic Dock adapter, That means these will literally be the same device..... Except one might be Ford Blue.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yes, I completely understand the difference. All I am saying is that with this announcement, Tesla has got the first big partner in, there is no need to retrofit 12,000 superchargers with the magic dock. The few existing Ford vehicles can use an adaptor (which yes, might be manufactured by Tesla) and the majority of Ford's going forward will have the port on the car. Its not the same process.
Just imagine owning all the gas companies in the world. That’s the opportunity Tesla is looking at
Ah, there are many other EV charging networks around the world, though Tesla may have a chance to be the largest.
If it becomes the standard everyone else will be able to use the same connector/make their own chargers.
You did it Mary! 😂🎉
@@tomdrewenskus8167 Ofcourse there are. They question is do they work and are they reliable
They took the risk of being first and building out EV charging infrastructure. There will be other competitors, but Tesla will best positioned to take advantage of the opportunity.
4m50s: "It's gonna be super easy"
My brain: "... barely an inconvenience."
standardized charging ports are TIGHT
GM: I’m gonna need you to get ALL the way off my back about it!
A win for customers and EV adoption. Smart thinking by Ford and great to see cooperation, while still competing.
Okay i though the thing about him saying "no kids we will go behind this building" was hilarious
Chapeau 🎩 for Jim Farley. If you can’t beat them, join them to beat the rest.
This will create a snowball effect where other legacy OEMs will have to do the same to remain competitive, at least in North America. I expect GM, Rivian, and/or Stellantis to do the same in the coming year. Long live NACS.
What choice do they have? They all have enough problems making the EVs, let alone having to deal with unreliable charging networks. If you can't beat them, join them.
GM is actually in a great place to make the switch. Their only mass produced EV is ending production. It’s probably too late for the first Equinox and Blazer EV models, but by 2025 they can join Ford. If Mary Barra has any sense. And I’m not convinced of that.
Barra (probably): “GM customers love Walmart parking lots and the excitement around the CCS charging systems. Every journey is an adventure where you’re not exactly sure what’s going to happen, and we and our charging partners think that’s a good thing.”
This is how far ahead Tesla is in their planning. They created a massive charging network that's incredibly reliable knowing that it will not only benefit them, but they saw it as another revenue stream by charging other companies to use them. This is free money as it costs Tesla nothing to unlock these for other EVs.
They built a huge network... funded by subsidies from government and other OEMs of course... and then locked all other OEMs out of using it. They also restricted their cars from using the CCS network, because they couldn't have a competing network generating any revenue and taking away revenue from their network, am'i'right? Our government did absolutely nothing to stop what may be the most blatant case of anti-competition (anti-trust) that I've ever seen.
That's not the purpose
They'll make money by other (related) means.
@@rogerstarkey5390 you think Tesla allows access to their network without cost?
Well done ford and Tesla
You did it Mary!! 😂🎉
NACS is objectively better. Simple. One was designed by engineers and the other was designed by political committee. It’s no wonder why NACS is so much better.
During a road trip in February 2023, I used both Tesla Superchargers and EA CCS chargers on my Model Y. It was great having two options.
Tesla's have a huge advantage being able to use both. It is really a deciding factor when making a choice for an EV. I like some of the competitors vehicles better, but the charging network is still enough to put a win in the Tesla camp. I am in the decision making process currently and I keep coming back to the navigation and charging as the sticking points. Most of the time I am charging at home and never have to think about nav or charging. But as soon as you have to contemplate that few times a year road trip it is serious pucker factor with the state of CCS charging. I don't see Tesla's having that issue other than we need more chargers in more places off of the beaten paths.
Ford's decision is huge to go with NACS. It can't be emphasized enough. Total respect for the job that Farley is doing. If the other OEM's don't follow suite then they need to be left in the dust.
Tesla chargers and charging stations are by far the best in North America and it would make good business sense for Ford to adopt gradually to the Tesla standard and be able to use Tesla charging stations while expanding their own. I think Tesla and Ford are on the right track with their electric vehicle programs.
My hypothesis?
Within weeks, the following will happen.
1) There will be "discussion" between government and others regarding the "97% uptime" target, mentioned as part of the charging initiative.
Sanctions, maybe fines may be forthcoming.
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2) Ford will announce they have reached agreement to build Superchargers under license, branded FoMoCo.
They will receive government assistance for doing so (cashflow!!)
They will receive charging income (more cashflow!)
The branding will "advertise" their association with a reliable network.
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Tesla will have access (a condition will be those chargers are of NACS and use the CCS adapter for existing Ford vehicles, or have double cables)
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3) What's in it for Tesla?
I believe Tesla will provide Megapack backup for those locations.
Since the chargers will on average be active for maybe 2-3 hours per day, those Megapacks will be leveraged for grid arbitrage. ($$$$$$!)
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4) What's in it for the Government?
They avoid the necessity of bailing out one (more?) of the major legacy automakers.
They push "their initiative" no increase the network.
(Tesla bite their tongue on that one, a small price to pay!)
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5) Customers?
Choice, reliability, quantity.....
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It's just a thought.....
"no kids were going to go over here behind this building"😂
So why didn't Ford build supercharger stations like crazy starting years ago? These brilliant executives can't see further than their noses
A loss on the quarterly earnings reports.
2018: "Why should I build charging stations with a standardized connector when it will benefit my competitors?"
2023: " Damn, the charging networks using the standard connector aren't as good as what Tesla built!"
It was the same argument when Henry Ford invented Model T. People who had owned horses, stables, and rest stations said horses could go anywhere and didn't need oil, tires, and roads.
Honestly excited for this. I love how the Tesla plug for home charging is the same exact design for their supercharger plug. It's so easy to use, compared to how clunky CCS and CHAdeMO plugs are. Non-Tesla fast chargers are also hit & miss in terms of their reliability. I've never had any problems charging my Model Y on various road trips ranging from 500 miles to 6300 miles.
But the few CCS/CHAdeMO stalls I've tried sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Worse, there was often only one stall, so if I badly needed that charge, I'd be screwed/stranded.
Elon had long offered his Tesla recharging services for other manufactures. it obviously comes with cost from the manufacture buying in, but it also bodes well for the consumers. Elon was super smart. when everyone was complaining and questioning the validity of his ev's he was instead focused on the infrastructure that would recharge them. everyone else would have to deal with the poor service from other recharging vendors.
…Mr Musk offered the Tesla Charging Standard to any and all auto makers since DAY ONE…..
NIMBY & NIH guaranteed that no-one took him up on his offer.
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NIMBY : Not In My Backyard
NIH : Not Invented Here
Also, odd that Aptera adapting Tesla Standard has received so little press.
@@ernestgalvan9037 Aptera isn't shipping vehicles yet so it is non news till they do.
The Aptera will only have about a 50kw Max charge rate also! But even your that efficient you don't need much battery!
Most CEOs try to not get fired. Farley is actually trying to lead. Good move. Dig it.
CCS and J1772 plugs are horrendous. The smaller Tesla plug is simple and elegant. I mean just look at the names. "J1772" looks exactly like you'd picture it.
I'd much rather pay $5 over 12 hours at my home to fill my battery, then spending $50 in 5 minutes to fill my gas tank. I don't own an EV yet, but it's obvious where this is going once people realize they can take half a day off work and keep some of their sanity.
In Southern California filling an ev is half as much as gas so the savings isn’t super huge. 25 cents / kw hr. ~$2.50 to go 30 miles. Fast charging puts it at the same price as gas. $5 for 30 miles.
Good to see a company will do what works best for it’s customer, and show cooperation can promote meaningful business success. Green light - green light business.
Amazon, Tesla, Apple, Microsoft.
These companies will own the world
1:32 "so in 2025, we are going to put their plug on our vehicles" Wow!
GM just made the same announcement 🎉
This is funny because a few years ago, Elon Musk proposed a Tesla sale to Ford and they rejected it
Farley is such a Great person, no BS! He talks like a normal working class person, other companies need to take note.
I for one will be happy to get rid of that big clunky charger that I use on my Maxh E and Lightning. I'm not a Tesla car fan, but I love their chargers. It's so much easier than the other one.
Charging is getting expensive outside of your home
There are certain times of day when it's cheaper, at least in my area.
It’s pretty obvious what’s going on , every auto maker has been begging Tesla to let them use there chargers, Elon now needs more money for space stuff
Tesla has ALWAYS allowed its charging patent portfolio to be used without licensing fees.
@@ernestgalvan9037 your right Elon pockets no cash from this
At first I thought this was Kristen Wiig interviewing Chris Farley.
I've been working for uber in a tesla and can say that the superchargers made it easy.
Congrats to Ford and Tesla! Awesome news!
When Ford customers all get dragged into Tesla supercharging stations where they will inevitably talk to Tesla owners about their Tesla vehicles, will Ford be able to retain their customers?
No kids we are going behind the building lmfao 🤣 3:01
I own 100,000 shares. My average price is $12.24/share.
I'm A BELIEVER !
👍👍👍👍
On the rearview mirror you can actually see Marry leading.
Chevrolet has the Equinox, Blazer, and Silverado EVs "coming soon." If it's able to ramp up Ultium battery production substantially before it discontinues the Bolt and Bolt EUV 😢, it should do well. Stellantis (Dodge, RAM, Jeep) though... ⚰💀
@@skierpage If doing well is leading then yeah, lead on Marry, from behind.
Fantastic! Take a lot for a ceo to admit defeat and just go with the better option.
Only a very small fraction of EV owners use fast charging stations -- everyone just charges at home and wakes up to a full charge every day. But still good on Ford for getting this deal done.
1:31 odd slip that he would say "plug" for car's receptacle / jack / port. Chargers have cable with *plug* 4:51 GM, others also abandon CCS for NACS?
They know they can't build Tesla like charging network
No car company in North America even tried, they left it up to third-party charging networks.
@@skierpage ev keep going expensive for sure because of charging problems
Great news for both of them and for all customers. Now, if Ford can just work on production of the Lightning and make some improvements... Heat pump upgrade would be helpful... Make more of the affordable models so sales increase.
And start making smaller efficient EV again. Not everyone in America wants to buy stupid monster pickups or dumb wasteful SUVs.
Ford truck EV will be more appealing aesthetically for a lot of guys, but Tesla will eat Ford's lunch for all 'truck like' features needed for E-truck abilities when the Cyber Truck comes out. Gonna be interesting
@@ericcindycrowder7482 damn calm down 🤣 They haven't got the Mustang or the Lightning figured out yet, I am sure more models are planned
@@travisjazzbo3490 Yeah, I am on the fence with both. I love the F150 but damn that terrible range and insane cost...
Cyber Truck def is amazing though I find it ugly and less versatile when it comes to cargo possibilities (example: I like being able to load ATVs on top of a Diamondback bed cover and have storage in the bed)
@@jtr82369 I understand why you find it ugly for sure. I have found that the more I see of it the more I like it. But PU trucks have a very, very long-standing look so that was a huge risk for Tesla, though I understand why they took the risk by trying to keep it lighter, be car-like for drive, but at the same time have all the strength needed for being a truck, and be able to build it for less to maximize profit vs a typical truck.
From what I have read, it sounds like from a truck function perspective, including even the bed, it sounds like it will be better in most ways so your bed argument is interesting. Maybe I am misunderstanding what I read, but it sounded like the bed is quite a lot larger and more versatile, while the entire length is still the same as the Ford. The idea being the saved a lot of length in the front. Very interesting
I may finally consider getting a Ford EV now, the CCS charging was a huge dealbreaker. All automakers should follow suit.
Tesla and Ford seem to be the only ones with a clear and "REALISTIC" view of the future.
Nice move on Ford’s part and kudos to Tesla for allowing it. Now Ford needs to get busy at reducing cost and complexity on their new products.
We own two Teslas and a Lightning. The vehicles have all have their own
character. The Lightning and Model Y are more or less tied for general suburban use case in California, using home charging. But the superchargers are the differentiator.
Close, but it should read
"Nice move (AT LAST) on Fords' part and kudos for Tesla being patient for TEN YEARS waiting for someone to accept the offer...." ....?
I've heard tesla service can be hit and miss in California, but up here in BC its been great and all things being equal between to competitive evs's I would still choose Tesla over an equal. Not to mention not having to deal with the hassle of a dealership.
Team work makes the dream work :)
In the UK, Tesla chargers have both plugs ie two cables on each charger. In fact new Teslas in the UK, have CCS sockets, not the Tesla socket.
CCS will be the standard as it is used by the whole world apart from Tesla in the US. It's similar to the Betamax days
This fits Tesla's mission statement.
CCS will/has become the new Chademo, extinction soon.
OEMs don't support Chademo chargers anymore EA & Charge point have given up .
Only in North America. The EU was smart enough to mandate one standard which is CCS version 2. Even Tesla supports that in Europe
@@89five3five well Tesla didn’t have a choice but to support it. US Tesla chargers are much more sleek and functional. CCS looks awful and should not be the standard in the US.
Maybe, but only in the North America, the rest of us will keep CCS ;)
@@SvikDK - CCCPs chargers are Crap , and the EU & Asia should adopt NACS as well , its SUPERIOR to everything.
Great questions!
This is truly a game changer. It's great that both Ford and Tesla come together and this will be beneficial to EV consumers. The only concern I have is that Tesla superchargers network might become more crowded and we all have to wait and circle more. I hope Tesla already has some plan to mitigate those concerns.
Tesla already started offering a limited market release of if the supercharger with CCS adapters built in. Ford is not switching to tesla plug. Theyre simply including tesla adapters with their vehicles.
Also note the location of the charge port on the lightning. It is a complete opposite of the location on all tesla vehicles. The ford will have to take up two charger stalls to charge at a current supercharger
Good to hear, however, they need an EV that's starts around $30k. I know it's going to be a while but if GM is successful with their 2 upcoming EVs starting around $30k then you'll going to behind them.
Only the Equinox is likely to be close to $30,000, the Blazer will cost more. It's terrible that GM is going to drop the $27,000 excellent Bolt and Bolt EUV, along with Nissan replacing the cheap Leaf with the $45,000+ Ariya. More opportunity for the Chinese to take over the low end of the car market.
@@skierpage Completely agree and not enough people mention this. GM and Ford will be profitable, sure, but significantly smaller as well. The day will come soon when you will be able to count more Teslas on the American roads than Fords, since Ford and GM are so committed on moving upmarket.
SOOOOO very impressed with Jim. I think FORD will be the only surviving legacy car manufacturer in 10 years time. The rest will be forced to merge into multi brand, near bankrupt, 3rd world, niche manufacturers.
This will help sell more Ford EVs for sure. One of the reasons I went with Tesla was their charging network reliability and availability.
less fragmentation and better standardization is fantastic news 👍
No kids, we are going over here behind the building💀..😂
😂😂😂
If only cell phone companies can do the same for their chargers....
Very good partnership indeed and just like Farley mentioned with a story about his kids on a road trip , the superchargers seem to be nearly everywhere and in the best locations compared to the CCS chargers. This move by Ford will help solidify the standard hopefully in favor of the Tesla standard finally which is one of the last pieces of the puzzle to the ev problem.
After a charging standard is adopted by everyone, then it becomes much more seamless to adopt an ev and be able to live with it on a daily basis. CCS was thought to be that standard but it’s just not a reliable and good enough charging solution so switching to the Tesla charging solution which has far more chargers available anyways is truly the best move. It’s also far more reliable, easier to use, works well in the cold and the hot weather, etc. To me Ford making this switch will really up the competition for sure with Ford EVs. Tesla obviously isn’t worried but other automakers should be if they don’t switch to the better standard eventually.
It's a win/win Ford gains access to a high quality gold standard charging network, Tesla gains a charge customer (and profit from sale) that will be exposed to the Tesla brand everytime they charge up. Tesla stock and to a lesser degree Ford stock should jump on this news.
Will TSLA Super Chargers be the charging stations for most of EV Companies? I think Ford is just the beginning. TSLA already have their Super Chargers laid out on most states. It’ll be easier for EV companies to just use TSLA charging station.
It’s a better plug!
There is still the issue of the ford charge port location on the vehicle and how that is going to work with the superchargers
Man reminded me of Chris Farley…until I realised they are cousins. This man certainly ain’t living in a van down by the river. RIP Chris!
cool, hope others will adopt the Tesla plug. Being using it for 5 years, works pretty well.
This reminds me of the early days of cell phones when you had to have an account on every network. Roaming agreements put an end to that. We need the same thing for car charges.
Charging lanes sort of like carpool lanes so you could charge the battery while driving on long trips like a trolly car
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video update I'm currently waiting for my ev but not a ford
So interesting to see the changes happen in real time: first announced on Twitter Spaces. Just a couple of minutes, a few words, and so much easier for a couple of people to connect directly with their audience. None of this agenda-filled middle person nonsense with leading and “gotcha” style “questions”.
Should have mentioned that with non-Tesla charging stations you have to put 13 different apps on your phone with billing connected to use them. Unreliable patchwork of chargers or the super reliable easy to use Tesla? Good choice Ford!
Wonder how long it will be before we start hearing about wait times with cars backing up at charging stations
I'll say it again, Tesla is an energy company, not a car company.
They have by far the best charging technology and the only RELIABLE working charging network.
Ford to build 2 million EVs per year in a couple years?? Hahaha, good luck!
More like 200k only.
You did it Mary! 😂😂🎉
@@mikafiltenborg7572 Hilarious - in 2021
I think the actual statement should be
"IF all goes to plan, in 2 years Ford will have the FACILITIES to build 2 million vehicles per year...... Subject to production ramp which may take 12 months".....?
Can this be a possible "buy out" / partnership
Customers should NOT be locked in a proprietary standard or "ecosystem" (*cough* Apple *cough*). This is a GREAT move by Tesla and Ford!
Customers will have a choice for whatever vehicle they like and will have the freedom to use the Tesla's abundant, convenient, user-friendly and most importantly - working! superchargers.
And Farley said something important - Location. Charger locations in many occasions are plane open parking spaces with nothing nearby. They need to be a place you would WANT to stop and stretch your legs. A simple roof over them is a must! A convenience store or even a vending machine would be great. A place to sit down and eat/drink/relax for a few minutes.
This is a class act by Elon and shows that Farley is dedicated to EVs.
Class act and *Admirable* patience by Elon.
10 years wait!
Literally ford on a life line
He accurately said Ford is #2 in U.S. EV sales! He forgot to mention Tesla sales are 10x more. But hey, #2 sounds good!
You did it Mary! 😂🎉
@@kovelol yeah. They have the number 1 selling vehicle period. The media keeps using the category terms ev. They car about vehicle market share, ev market share isn’t a thing.
Literally all other EVs that rely on an unreliable charging network on a life line. They're kind of desperate until they can establish a network that matches the quality and support of Tesla chargers.
It's not just more chargers. It's more reliable chargers.
I'm surprised some of these gas station companies haven't start building EV stations. Try and get ahead of the curve before its over saturated with multiple companies. Be cool to see a 7 eleven, circle k, etc.. with EV charging while also being a small store front/hangout area while car charges.
Circle K is already working on it in Europe and at a few locations near their headquarters in South Carolina. Out of Spec Reviews did a RUclips video on it.
@Ivan Workman oh! Nice, im about to check it out now.
This is awesome!
I predict, FORD EV vehicles will require Tesla @ inside, to work .
Becky and Andrew, as a Tesla shareholder, why didn't you ask what Tesla was getting out of the deal as well? Obviously, I would really like to know.
@@peterosinga5848 Thanks for your 2 cents but it’s not hard to ask good questions. It’s just disappointing that Becky and Andrew did not do that. Mark Haines on the other hand would’ve asked good questions.
Will Tesla be charging Ford on every Ford EV using Tesla Super Chargers?
This is a great question. I still have to look up the details but the rates for Ford owners (if higher) will not be much higher. I think Ford is the only old guard company seriously doing the things that will keep them successful moving forward. Everyone else is just talking.
20% more for non teslas
Musk also released a ton of patents so others could be competitive. Musk is the man!